“France needs to ‘invent a new relationship with Islam’ and Imams should be trained locally, ‘not elsewhere,’ Valls added in an interview with Le Monde.” Valls is in for a rude awakening: end the foreign funding of mosques and train the imams locally, and they will still be reading the same Qur’an and studying the same life of Muhammad. This is just another wrong diagnosis of the problem: the problem is not foreign funding or foreign-trained imams. The problem is how jihadis use the texts and teachings of Islam to incite Muslims to acts of hatred and violence. Until that is addressed, it will continue.
“Manuel Valls ‘open’ to ban on foreign funding of French mosques,” by Cynthia Kroet, Politico, July 29, 2016:
French Prime Minister Manuel Valls is “open” to the idea of imposing a temporary ban on foreign financing of the construction of mosques in his country, he said on Friday.
France needs to “invent a new relationship with Islam” and Imams should be trained locally, “not elsewhere,” Valls added in an interview with Le Monde.
Valls labeled a “failure” the fact that one of the two men who killed a priest in a church on Tuesday had been under house arrest with an electronic tag pending trial and was able to take part in the attack. He said the incident showed that judges needed to take a “different, case-by-case, approach.”

efoc says
Robert, I don’t know if you particularly handpick certain photographs for your posts but more often than not, they are right on the mark and very funny. Always love the underlying humour you put in.
Michael Laudahn says
I would say, he does handpick these photos, and for a reason. )
Angemon says
Valls is running out of straws to grasp. Unfortunately, his gamble comes at the expense of the French people.
Jay Boo says
He may be grasping at straws, but at least he is taking some actions to challenge Islam unlike the lackeys in the Obama administration..
1 — I welcome the idea to ban foreign funding of mosques. If they had done that years ago France would have had fewer fancy mosques to give the CULT of Islam undeserved status as a religion.
2 — Also, if France insists on training imams locally, that could have take away one tool that all cults use to indoctrinate by isolating the Muslim in a location far away from outside interference. The less free-range terror imams in addition to the ones who are home grown the better.
The only downside I see is that French citizens might be lulled by these measures into the false impression that Islam is not the ROOT problem and a bunch of Muslims will be pissed off.
Banning Islam and deporting all Muslims would be the ideal solution, but no politician can honestly say that or make it happen given legal restrictions.
underbed cat says
Locally trained imams would make no difference, the first eight chapters of their untouchable book…can produce the same results…..and sharia would reinforce the roots of terrorism to grow. Beside naming the terror organizations, and stop funding, it really should be reclassified…since the commands(the words) are the threat….that call to smite the infidel.
biff says
This kind of common sense must not be allowed to continue.
Banning the Saudi’s from funding Mosques to propigate the most hateful version of Islam?
We are nothing but cannon fodder for Muslims. It must always remain that way.
A few thousand Europeans killed is nothing compared to the insult of associating Islam with terrorism.
We must allow ourselves to be slaughtered by Islam rather then offend them.
This is the Merkel-Clinton agreement.
DP111 says
This is good news. There is no doubt that Muslims and Islam have to be separated from the West or else the West is finished. But to do that, one has to try everything, so everyone understands that everything reasonable been tried.
The program has to finish before Muslims become a majority.
Sog says
How about if we divide the Koran into a ‘right shoulder’ book and a ‘left shoulder’ book? We could put all the evil stuff in a ‘left shoulder’ book and all good verses in the ‘right shoulder’ book. Evil Hadiths could then be likewise associated as ‘left side’ Hadiths.
Anything then not associated with “the golden rule” could then be properly set aside as perhaps demonically inspired. I think Christians would get it, and so would *very good* people whom are Moslem. Evil Moslems would of course still be “inspired” by the left side Islam, but they would tend to stand out more.
linnte says
Sog, I have communicated this same idea to Dr. Jassar of American Islamic Democratic Forum and Clarion Project via emails and Facebook posts and I get no where! Even “good” Muslims can’t make themselves rid the Qur’an of the “left shoulder” verbiage! I was even told by a Clarion person who answers my email “this is the problem we have no answer for”. Same answer from Dr. Jassar. Very sad!
Lioness says
We, non-muslims, can divide the koran as we please, but muslims are not going to accept it in any shape or form. They will riot over this idea alone as islamophobic and will continue to worship the sick twisted koran as a whole.
DP111 says
Banning mosques would be a more appropriate response.
Lookmann says
And muslims too.
Jay Boo says
ditto — to both great ideas.
Havoc says
New Relationship:
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“No Muslims. No Mosques.”
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It works every time.
overman says
Sounds good to me.
dumbledoresarmy says
Yep.
France doesn’t need a ‘new relationship’ with the Ummah.
France needs to *end* – break off – its relationshp with the Ummah, exactly as a person who has become the victim in an abusive relationship needs to END his or her relationship with the Abuser.
And since France owns the house she lives in – French territory – and was there *first* – the Abuser, the Ummah, moved in with France, not vice versa – then it is the Abuser who needs to move *out*, not the Abused.
DP111 says
It is going to happen.
France has already stated that its attacks on ISIS will continue. This means that “good French Muslims” will have no recourse other then to attack France, and so on. France will the shut down extremist mosques, and attack ISIS. Repeat.
Its a good strategy, and all the West is applying. One that I have mentioned for a long while.
Caro says
Frau Merkel is telling the masses: “You vill haf it und you vill like it”…..
linnte says
Heil Merkel!
Don McKellar says
What a clueless, subservient ignoramus this man is. How did the illegitimate son of Inspector Clouseau become Prime Minister of France?
DFD says
Impossible! This guy can’t be related to Clouseau. Consider: Clouseau *always* got the job done.
If Clouseau were in charge, the entire problem would be solved and **ALL** EU leaders west of the Oder/Neisse and north of the Balkans would be under arrest.
Kathy Brown, Esq. says
So let me see if I get this: AFTER France has been decimated both in Paris and Nice, this celenterate is just ‘open’ to shutting down their jihad factories, aka their ‘mosques’? Way to go Valls!
Now I speak French, so maybe I can be of assistance. Here’s the ISIS translation of Vall’s asininity: ‘Hi, my name’s Valls which rhymes with ‘balls’ and I don’t have any. Now I know you’re killing Frenchmen 24/7, but that scares me so much that all I want to do is crawl back inside my mother’s womb, only I disgust even HER so much, that she told me never to go near her again.’
Walter Sieruk says
The construction of the many mosques in both Europe not only mean that more and more Muslims are entering those two continents and likewise more and more people in America and Europe are now being proselytized to Islam. This may be disturbing enough. In addition, this mass construction of mosques on America and Europe have still a further meaning which has been explained by a former Muslim who is now a Christian,Dr. Daniel Shayesteh, in his book ISLAM THE HOUSE I LEFT BEHIND for in page 99 it informs the reader that “The mosque is vital for establishing Muslims as sovereign over non-Muslims in a non-Islamic society or country. Building a mosque in a non-Islamic society or country symbolizes Islam’s claim over that society or country, even with a non-Muslim majority.”
Richard Paulsen says
” Dalil Boubakeur, rector of the Grand Mosque of Paris (sic!), has estimated that France needs to double the number of mosques from the present 2,000 ( Some 2,200 2016).
There was some 7 million muslims in France and 65 million citizens in August 2011.
thenational.ae/news/world/europe/france-building-more-than-100-mosques
In Istanbul in 2010 there were some 3,113 mosques and only 40 churches (2010)
dumbledoresarmy says
France should be demolishng mosques, not permitting them to be built!
France – and all other Infidel lands, *everywhere*, whether first-world or third-world – should not be permitting more mosques; and they should be surprise-raiding and searching the existing ones and when they find anything ‘dodgy’ inside (which they very likely will, in most cases, if the raid really *is* a surprise) then that mosque should be shut down and razed to the ground.
Mosques known to have been attended by jihadis of any kind (whether those who plot or attempt or carry out an attack on Infidel soil, or those who gallop off abroad to join Islamic State, etc) or frequented by red-hot jihad-inciting and/ or sharia-pushing imams/ sheikhs/ mullahs or by persons who have flouted infidel law by, for example, polygyny and/ or forced/ child ‘marriage’, honour murders, attacks on or threats against apostates or ‘blasphemers’, should be raided and searched *first*. Indeed, they should be shut down as a matter of course. And the land resumed, and the buildings – if not capable of being repurposed for Infidel use – demolished. That would send a message, loud and clear.
biff says
France and Germany are already lost. The most important thing is to use their examples to save our own countries from the same fate.
Muslims should be signing a “contract with America” to uphold the laws of the land, that real laws trump the laws of Muhammed (ie no Sharia ever), no killings, women get to drive, vote and not get beaten etc.
Violate your “Muslims pledge to America” and throw them the fuck out.
The current approach of investigating and releasing violent Muslims until they finally kill is insane.
2 strikes rule for Muslim?
More than a couple of crazy Muslims from one Mosque and it should be shutdown and the Iman/Mufi charged with crimes against humanity and hate crimes.
overman says
Apparently, the first prayer in a mosque is to wipe out the ‘lnfidel’. This comes from Tarek Fatah when he was addressing the Canadian Senate comittee after 9/11, warning them about lslam – he’s a vedic muslim, rather than Arabic, which seem to be world’s apart IMO. This is the short version by – Atheism-is-Unstoppable.
Part 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6FaQO_FajY
Part 2
billybob says
Thanks so much for that link. Through it, I found some beauty to contrast with the ugliness of Islam we are always reading about here… I think we need to break from it from time to time. Have a break, and return with renewed vigor to fight that hideously ugly religion who would destroy this beauty in an instant…
https://youtu.be/F6DusvaRmyY
Richard Paulsen says
There are some 82,693 mosques in Turkey with a population of some 80 million and just some 34-40 churches.
A few thousand mosques being built the last few yeras while the churches growing fever.
Jay Boo says
“France needs to ‘invent a new relationship with Islam’ ”
Donald Trump agrees with that.
The difference is in the semantics about what is meant by “(new relationship)”
“new relationship ”
This should (at a minimum) be a euphuistic expression to mean to assimilate or get the hell out.
Cheryl S says
Stockholm Syndrome 2.0. They are STILL clueless in France about the true face of islam. NO amount of deaths will waken these people as the blood of innocents on their hands get redder and redder.
Time to shutter every mosque in France, fumigate every no-go zone starting with Paris and Marseille and deport, deport, deport.
overman says
“fumigate every no-go zone starting with Paris and Marseille and deport, deport, deport.”
Yes, these ‘no-go area’ should never exist in any civilized country. Even the cops are terrified of going in. Why aren’t the army, marines, SAS etc. cleaning them up?
dumbledoresarmy says
I bet it would be possible to cut off the power and water supply to such areas – and the phone communication, too – prior to their being entered in force by the army.
pdxnag says
Haven’t they already got laws on the books criminalizing Sedition and Incitement to Sedition?
billybob says
That is something I have often thought really needs to be explored. I wish Robert could tap into his social network and find a couple of good Constitutional and Criminal lawyers to hold a little round table about how the laws of the land can be employed to find some relief. Hello Robert???
Seabird says
And while those lawyers are discussing it at their “round table”, maybe they can find a way to criminalize the offensive 163 (verses/passages) in their religious literature as “hate speech” and ban it from the country.
The very same “hate speech” laws constantly pushed by the Left could be used to cleanse Islam of its hate/death cult commandments.
The same type of prosecution used against Tom Metzger/Aryan Nation in 1990 in Oregon for violence inspired by their (nazi) literature- or am I just delusional?
dumbledoresarmy says
Banning foreign funding of mosques would be a start.
It would, I think, cut down quite considerably on the number and lavishness of mosques being built all over the dar al harb.
But it should only be the beginning.
Islamosavvy French should *push* for this measure; then get ready to push for *other* measures. Step by step by step.
The journey of a thousand miles begins with the first step.
(Free French should also be pushing hard for *rigorous* enforcement of such things as the burqa-and-niqab ban, with arrests and big fines for females who flout that ban… and for their male associates. Followed up by thorough investigation of all parties – identity checks, fingerprints checked against criminal data bases, checks for probable welfare fraud, checks of immigration and citizenship status, etc. I bet that in many cases things would get interesting pretty quickly; the principle involved is much the same as that which came into play when the authorities in NYC decided to crack down on fare jumpers and subject them to full police procedure including searches… lots of them turned out to be carrying illegal weapons / drugs, with rap sheets, outstanding arrest warrants, and so on).