Orban is right. He should be heading up the EU, if only to dissolve it.
“Hungary taunts Merkel over terror and says ‘our problem is not in Mecca, but in Brussels,'” by Nick Gutteridge, Express, July 28, 2016:
THE BITTER divisions ripping the European Union apart intensified today as Hungary launched an eviscerating attack on Brussels over migration and taunted Angela Merkel for failing to protect German people from Islamist terror.
In an astonishingly savage tirade the country’s leader Viktor Orban described the EU elite as serial “failures” and openly goaded struggling western European nations, describing them as “stagnated and incapable of change”.
The hardline Prime Minister called for a radical overhaul of the European project, decrying the growing loss of sovereignty to Brussels as a disaster and “one of the greatest threats in Europe today”.
And he issued a stunning rebuke to Mrs Merkel on migration, blaming recent terror attacks on the mas [sic] influx of refugees and saying Hungary no longer looked up to its near neighbour as a paragon of stability and common sense.
Mr Orban’s stunning broadside comes at a time of unparalleled acrimony amongst EU countries, who are falling out over everything from the Brexit result to how to deal with the Eurozone crisis.
At the heart of Europe’s malaise is the fast-approaching point of no return on federalism, where members will be forced to choose between the creation of a United States of Europe or a return to a loosely allied trading bloc.
And the Hungary PM was clear where his nation will stand as he railed against the “undemocratic” EU Commission which he blamed for driving a wrecking ball through the life chances of hundreds of millions of young Europeans.
In a speech laced with menace and reproach he had particularly scathing words for the founding nations of the EU, who he described as an “old Europe” which were being left behind by newer, more dynamic members.
His stinging description of western Europe as “stagnating” will hit home hard in France, Germany and Spain, where economic growth has tanked and unemployment rocketed….
Migration, he argued, “increases terrorism and crime” and “destroys national culture” in a thinly-veiled swipe at Mrs Merkel’s decision to roll out the red carpet to millions of people from the Middle East.
Citing the recent terror attack in Munich, Mr Orban said Hungary had “always looked upon Germany as the western guarantor of our security” but added that “this quite clearly no longer exists” following a spate of Islamist attacks in the country.
The controversial Hungarian PM made his remarks in a speech to students at Hungary’s Open University summer camp, which he began by promising to break with political protocol speak frankly about his opinions.
However, he found himself in hot water today after describing migrants as “poison” at a press conference – remarks human rights campaigners denounced as “disgusting and xenophobic”.

biff says
“destroys national culture”
That’s exactly what the elites want.
Luke says
Exactly right.
biff says
You have to know the CIA has been told to do whatever is necessary to get this guy out of office.
Cannot have a politician openly talking about Muslims and the problems they bring.
TH says
He has the support of 70% of the people. The CIA ought to dedicate its efforts to destabilizing Iran and other dangerous countries.
King Tut says
That’s exactly what the Jew want.
Fixed
Renee says
Go away Jew hater.
Wellington says
Get lost, King Rot.
Oliver says
King Shit– STOP USING YOUR COMPUTER- AND YOUR CELL PHONE. BASIS FOR BOTH MADE BY ISRAELIS ( FOR THE CELL PHONE, AND ORIGINAL PENTIUM CHIP AND ITS SUCCESSORS)
BE EXTREMELY CAREFUL OF WHAT MEDICINES YOU TAKE- MANY OF THE LEADING NEW ONES FOR MS, MD, PARKINSON’S AND SOME FORMS OF CANCER- MADE BY JEWISH DOCTORS.
ALSO FOR SOME OLD DISEASES-LIKE SOME STD’S; POLIO; ETC.
AND MUCH OF THE LATEST IN OTHER FORMS OF SCIENCE.
SOME 15-16 MILLION JEWS IN THE WORLD, AND HAVE WON SOME 35% OR MORE OF THE NOBEL PRIZES IN MEDICINE AND SCIENCE.
Oliver says
My eyes were hurting- and the caps were easier to read.
It comes and goes, and I saw an eye specialist- who said that there is surgery, but he advised keep up with the problem, as it is intermittent.
gravenimage says
The virulent antisemite “King Tut” wrote:
That’s exactly what the Jew want (sic).
More ugliness:
lols. truth hurts. this is not a new phenomenon. Jews have been kicked out from various nations over 100 times throughout history.
………………………….
Why not just use the example of the Holocaust? If Nazis hated Jews and wanted to exterminate them, it must be the Jews’ fault.
More:
pick up a book and stop trying to kill the messenger. you may learn a thing or two.
and make sure you don’t read any books written by a Jew.
………………………….
So don’t read Anne Frank, or Art Spiegelman, or Isaac Azimov, or Proust, or Maurice Sendak, or Will Eisner, or Viktor Frankl’s “Man’s Search for Meaning”–or any other great Jewish authors.
“King Tut” linked a video today, and they cited the books that you should read: nutty conspiracy theorist William Guy Carr, whose book “Satan Prince of This World” rants about the “Synagogue of Satan”. He posits that there will be a WWIII–but that it would happen in 1957 and involve the Soviet Union, the US, and the destruction of all religions and all white people.
Maybe just a bit off?
Not sure “King Tut” is the best guy to get our book recommendations from…
Western Canadian says
I prefer book recommendations from people who can actually read. Find it works out much better.
Norger says
Excellent Graven.
King Tut says
here is the real history of the “holocaust”, in case you’re interested…
Oliver says
I have said this before– read OBERMAYER I THINK THAT IS HOW HIS NAME IS SPELLED): SOLDIERING FOR FREEDOM.
University of Texas Press.
Mr. Obermayer was a rich, privileged Jewish young man, living in Phil., when WW2 broke out.
The book is a compilation of his letters, to his family, form his time in the army.
There are many from when he was in Europe (France, germany, etc) right after the Normandy Invasion.
AND HE WAS IN THE NUREMBERG COURT when (I beleive he said it was Spears-book not handy to me right now) acknowledged murdering six million Jews.
Excellent book. (By the way, Mr. Obermayer became a journalist, and had access to many records; and also worked for the US government-after the war- to set up newspapers in Europe.. )
King Tut says
Oliver: no ty. I’m not interested in Jewish fantasies…
“Six million men and women are dying… a bigoted lust for Jewish blood… this threatened holocaust of human life…Six million men and women are dying.. In the world war the Jew has helped everybody but the Jew…”
1919, October 31, Martin Glynn, from “The Crucifixion of Jews Must Stop”
the 6 million LIE is nothing new under the sun. only to the sheep that beLIEve everything they are told.
Western Canadian says
This video is going to be every bit as pathetic as the illuminutti vid this POS posted before… and that one only served to demonstrate that thing nut does not even watch the vids he posts, as they are so full of holes and stupidity, that only muslims like him could possibly be stupid enough to swallow them.
Oliver says
King shit– Mr. Obermayer WAS IN THE NUREMBERG COURTHOUSE THE DAY THAT ( I BELEIVE IT WAS SPEER) ADMITTED THAT THE NAZIS MURDERED SIX MILLION JEWS.
If it did not happen, why would one of the architects of the evil say it in court? UNDER OATH.
I think that you are an idiot or worse.
Just my OPINION of you and your comments
Mike says
Idiot: I’m Jewish, and I have no use for Obama, Hillary, Soros and that whole lot. I’m with Trump, think that Harper was great, have no problems with Orban, and can even stand Putin, in a pinch.
Let’s not leave aside Netanyahu, who is one of the great leaders of the 21st century. rivalling with Harper.
I fully acknowledge that there are lots of self-hating Jews out there that are a part of the problem. But don’t let that make you think that there’s a Jewish conspiracy out there – far from it.
Visit Israel some day, and you’ll discover it to be a country after your own heart, though you’ll probably find it a bit leftist, nonetheless. In many ways, it’s a distillation of the Western world, though it’s not fully Western, nonetheless.
Judi says
Couldn’t have put it better myself Mike.
Ronen says
I am an Israeli Jew and the following words are not directed at any kind of racist.
I support these (ethnic) Jews:
Pamela Geller, Sam Harris, Melanie Phillips, Gad Saad, Dave Rubin, Milo Yiannopoulos (half jewish), Bat Ye’or, David Horowitz, Christopher Hitchens (half jewish), Bill Maher (half jewish), Ezra Levant, Andrew Klavan, plus anybody (of any backgrounds) who supports our western humanistic values.
I oppose these (ethnic) Jews:
George Soros, Noam Chomsky, Norman Finkelstein, plus anybody (of any backgrounds) who does not support our western humanistic values.
And while we are at it let us not forget few simple facts:
1. Jews do and will suffer the most from the Islamization of the west.
2. Jews in Israel stand at the front line against jihad and long before any Western nation in the modern.
3. Although it is true that some Jews support the multicultural cause (as do parts of any other group of people in the west), the west, and specifically Western Europe, is doing its best to undermine our existence in Israel and to promote our genocide by Muslims.
4. The state of Israel was founded in the first place because of Islamic and European persecution. The support of many Jews (me included) is not given to the west because of its fair treatment of Jews, but rather because we share common heritage and values.
terry says
“king tut, how’d you get so funky!” lol
King Tut says
I swallowed the red pill. there is no going back for me.
Ronen, thanks for understanding of what I was trying to say.
p.s. the whole story of Anne Frank is a HOAX. look it up. stop beLIEving Jewish lies and propaganda. turn off your tv. you’ll do yourself a favor.
Western Canadian says
The only liar here is you. The soldier I personally knew, who was there and helped to liberate one of the camps, was not a liar. Lower than guttercrawling vermin like you, now THERE is an experienced liar. And this same soldier, an extremely brave and decent man, had an opinion of vermin lying vermin, just like you. He said that when he was in the camp, and saw the barely alive skeletons of the Jewish victims of vermin like you, he barely, just barely, stopped himself from turning his rifle on every ‘guard’ in the camp….. Sadly, he has passed, but lucky for you. For lying, filthy sub-animal scum like you, he would have been more than happy to borrow a rifle, and hung you down and put a bullet in your lying skull.
You know full well that the lies you are telling here, are lies, and that gentle, noble man knew just how to deal with you, and those like you. And in the case of filth like you, he would not hold back.
Long past time this lower than a gutter piece of filth was banned.
Western Canadian says
Gee, he mentions a movie that doesn’t reek of ignorance based Jew hatred. And there is no turning back, as your sick and vicious hatred blinds you to the truth.
spac says
Tut ,You have submitted your brain to a pedophile ,rapist ,killer prophet of MEccan desert .As usual and as that nasty man of Mecca didi you are also trying to transfer the blame on Jews ..Horrendous
King Tut says
actually, I am a pagan.
Oliver says
Years ago, when I was in The Netherlands, I was at THE ANNE FRANK MUSEUM. I met an older ( this was in the late 1960’s or early 1970’s) ( who was NOT JEWISH) but during WW2 -his family lived in the area.
he told me that it ( the story) was true, and members of his family knew the Frank family.
Go back to smoking weed and praying to your idols.
Western Canadian says
Yes, possibly a Jew hating pagan, just like his hero, adolph the ugly….. More likely a pagan with a love of islam, again, just like his her, adolph the ugly.
Richard Paulsen says
What ? Without the hate towards Jews and Christians, arab countries ruled according to islam would have been much better off.
Who knows? Almost like the U.S.A. or Europe.
Shane says
This is what the Left wants and a lot of Jews are left wingers, but it is not fair to say the Jews want Muslims to conquer the West.
Oliver says
I don’t think a lot of jews are leftists- just the noisy ones; many are for social justice, but not the open warfare.
AND THE JEWS OF THE WORLD ARE WHAT: .002%?
(But probably like 30% of the Nobel prize winners in medicine and science).
Oliver says
I know a few liberal Jews- ( and, surprisingly-most VOTED FOR REAGAN AND PLAN TO VOTE FOR TRUMP) but are liberal in otehr ways. (Abortion is a private matter, not the government’s business; and sexual realtionships between CONSENTING ADULTS is also NOT the government’s business- by the way- BARRY GOLDWATER, MAY HE REST IN PEACE, ESPOUSED THESE SAME VIEWS; amongst other issues).
In my mopinion ( and I have seen elsewhere, perhaps expressed more eloquently- which is why people like Jeb Bush only (as far as I recall) and Rubio (again, as best I recall) got delegates form caucases- and Trump got his delegates from primaries. PEOPLE DON’T CARE-NOW- ABOUT LABELS. THEY WANT RESULTS- AND THE GOVERNMENT AND COUNTRY BACK ON TRACK. Under Obama, as well G W Bush, the middle class has been diminished.
Trump does not espouse the conservative party line about all issues, so he is no good. Hell, Barry Goldwater would not pass the litmus test of Red State, or George Will or Brent S. and the neo cons.
back on topic-most Jews- EVEN MOST LIBERAL JEWS- EXCLUDING SCUM (MY OPINION) LIKE SOROS- are supporters of Israel- to some extent-perhaps not as feverently as many of those on the right; but few woudl want it to disappear.
Again, my views, and from people I know; primarily.
Christianblood says
In the meantime, Islamist demonstrators against the US and Nato took to the streets in Incirlik, Turkey demanding that the base there be closed down and remember the base in Incirlik hosts Nato/US nukes. Pay attention here: Unstable increasingly hostile islamist-oriented Turkey with thousands of islamic radicals demonstrating screaming ‘down with America’ and ‘down with Nato’ and few Km’s away are dozens of US, Nato nukes lying around at an un-safe base. Make your calculations. Watch:
https://www.rt.com/news/353753-turkey-protest-incirlik-base/
Angemon says
You should be there supporting them, CB – they share your feelings regarding NATO and the US.
Christianblood says
Angemon
Good point! But I will never visit Turkey ever! That whole place (Turkey) is covered with a bad energy!
Wellington says
Indeed, Angemon. Ah, if only Christianblood could show a little balance. But I realize, as you do, that this is asking too much of the guy. As Clint Eastwood as Dirty Harry noted, “A man’s got to know his limitations.” Christianblood remains clueless here.
Mark Swan says
Dirty Harry was not biased He hated everyone equally—I liked that honest frank Harry.
gravenimage says
Angemon wrote:
You should be there supporting them, CB – they share your feelings regarding NATO and the US.
“Christianblood” replied:
Angemon
Good point! But I will never visit Turkey ever! That whole place (Turkey) is covered with a bad energy!
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So “Christianblood” is fine with screaming “Death to America!” in a place with ‘better energy’. Duly noted…
Angemon says
gravenimage posted:
“So “Christianblood” is fine with screaming “Death to America!” in a place with ‘better energy’.”
And alongside the muslims he allegedly hates and despises.
Shane says
Yes, and liberal Europeans want Turkey to join the EU and for the Turkish Muslims to be able to move to any European country. Disaster coming!
Lilly says
He’s so right…muslims are a poison. They destroy everything they touch. They’re like a metastatic cancer, every one of them has to be eradicated. Every single one of them.
brane pilot says
You are either on board with open borders mass migration, or you ‘hate’.
There is no middle ground in political debate any more.
This is the End game.
Georg says
“In a time of universal deceit – telling the truth is a revolutionary act.”
– George Orwell
The EU elites have declared war on the people and demonstrated clearly their disdain for the masses.
1) Resist Islam and its menace at every instance. It’s immoral not to do so.
2) Resist those who purvey Islam at every instance. It’s immoral not to do so.
We, the people, will have to put a stake in the ground and man (or woman) it. It’s as simple as that. The ideological bridges have been drawn. Don’t proceed on their terms. It is ok to be spiteful or angry, or even hateful, toward those who are spiteful, angry and hateful. Just defend yourselves. It couldn’t be more simple.
Mike says
You’re basically right.
About two weeks ago, I had a pleasant conversation with the local “racist”.
Here’s what I discovered: she’s a (bit) racist. I’m not. Yet, we’re 90% in the same space. But officially, all that she says is worthless, because she makes the “mistake” of being a bit racist.
But she’s actually a lot more open-minded than the PC crowd. There’s a lot that we can work on together, nonetheless. AND SHE LIVES WITH THE FACT THAT WE DISAGREE ON SOME THINGS. The PC crowd would never consider it, because they’re all or nothing.
Which made me ask myself: who is the bigger threat? A mild racist, or a doctrinaire neo-communist? Exactly.
Oliver says
Some time back ( well over a year ago, I think) the WSJ Blog ‘ BEST OF THE WEB” had a piece about a psychologist who interviewed ( a great many people-I forgot the numbers) with those on both sides of the political spectrum. Those on the right WOULD LISTEN, AND DISAGREE WITH LEFTIST VIEWS. OFTEN WITH THE REASONS FOR THE DISAGREEMENT.
THOSE ON THE LEFT WOULD NOT LISTEN. JUST ” YOU ARE WRONG”.
Luke says
You can’t hear me, but I’m applauding.
dumbledoresarmy says
Write to him! Or write to the Hungarian embassy in your country and express support for what Hungary has done to 1/ prevent the Muslim hordes from pouring into her territory and 2/ warn others about what those hordes are likely to do.
gravenimage says
Definitely!
Réka Szemerkényi is the Hungarian ambassador to the United States.
She can be contacted at the Hungarian Embassy in Washington, DC:
Letters: 3910 Shoemaker St, N.W., Washington, D.C. 20008
Phone: (202)-362-6730
email: informacio.was@mfa.gov.hu
http://washington.kormany.hu/contact-us
I certainly realize that many at Jihad Watch are not Americans, including Dumbledore’s Army. But consular information for any nation is easy to find on-line. Let them know you approve of Orban’s common sense and courage!
t. says
That’s exactly what I decided to do, few minutes ago, before arriving at the immediately above string of comments.
Dom107 says
The Hungarian PM has got it dead right.Germany needs to free herself of the awful Merkel women who despite everything that has happened wants to keep the door wide open to terrorists.
There is now a new influx of “immigrants” heading to Italy from Lybia.They sense the weakness of Europe and will not stop in Italy but head for the suckers of Europe Germany and Sweden.
We are witnessing mass stupidity of Europe’s elites including the Pope.
Germans should demand immediate elections as the situation is getting worse by the day !!
CrossWare says
This is not stupidity, but well calculated move to destroy national identity and establish an (Islamic) New World Order.
Mike says
Islamism and neo-Maoist leftism are both ideologies of world domination…
Feathers of a bird, or whatever the expression is.
lasslax says
That’s BS.
Stupidity is a much bigger power factor than you can imagine.
That’s the sad truth.
Westman says
Brussels is sponsoring the “Roman Circus” while Orban is warning that the barbarians are at the gate.
The complexity of insulation between the EU Oligarchy and the Citizen is no excuse for the evil committed in the name of profit and social manipulation. The Elites are responsible for the loss of national cohesion and chaos brought through indiscriminate migration.
Orban is speaking truth while Brussels is prescribing a prosperous future that it is rapidly destroying with misdiagnosis and the wrong medicine.
linnte says
Victor Orban is right on!
Keys says
Yes he is, linnte ! He probably understands that the Muslims had to go through Hungry to get to Vienna in 1683. Now he sees Muslim Trojan horses all over Europe let in by the stupes in power.
Wellington says
How ironic if Eastern Europe ends up leading Western Europe back to sanity considering that for centuries Eastern Europe lagged behind its neighbors to the west. Not any more.
Westman says
Truly, Wellington, it IS ironic!
FooBar says
The irony is deeper. The reason E. Europe lagged was the never-ending Ottoman invasions and the destruction they caused. The new Ottoman invasions are leapfrogging Eastern Europe.
Wellington says
I don’t think, FooBar, that the “only” reason was due to Ottoman proximity. Western Europe pioneered technology, freedom in general, military efficiency, economic efficiency (i.e., capitalism, the only economic system that actually produces wealth and an ever expanding, self-sustaining pie), et al. more than Eastern Europe traditionally did.
It’s more than just an “Ottoman matter,” FooBar. Surely you can see this, no?
FooBar says
Explain how you can be develop technology, art, etc when you’re periodically destroyed by turkish jihadi invasions. In the Middle Ages, Eastern Europe protected Western Europe from jihadi invasions.
Angemon says
FooBar posted:
“In the Middle Ages, Eastern Europe protected Western Europe from jihadi invasions.”
Didn’t do much for Spain, Italy or France when they came through the sea and remained a threat up to the 17th or so century, with the constant coastal raids and the ever looming possibility of another invasion…
Wellington says
I don’t deny for a moment, FooBar, that Eastern Europe, and in particular the Byzantine Empire, was more proximate to the iniquitous Islamic world, but don’t forget events like Spaniards recapturing over centuries the Iberian peninsula from the Saracens (the Reconquista) or Charles Martel doing what he did at Tours in 732, or, of course, the Crusades, or the naval battle of Lepanto in 1571, et al.
Western Europe, you know, did “its bit” too in protecting Western Civilization from Islamic encroachment. It wasn’t just a matter of Leo III being victorious at the Battle of Constantinople in 717 or John Sobieski laudably repelling the Ottomans at the Gates of Vienna in 1683. Or do you deny this?
Here I assert once again that you can’t explain Eastern Europe’s secondary status compared to Western Europe, traditionally speaking, just in terms of Muslim assaults. Take the 18th century for example. By the 1700s, the Ottoman Empire was a shadow of its former self and no longer a threat to Western Civilization, and thus asserting, but for Ottoman Muslims, Eastern Europe would have produced what Western Europe did in the realms of political theory, the arts in general, military efficiency, the expansion of freedom (well done in Britain; badly done in France), the Enlightenment in general, is straining things most deeply. Do you get any of this?
Your turn if you care.
FooBar says
By the 1700s, the Ottoman Empire was a shadow of its former self and no longer a threat to Western Civilization
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Your timeline is a bit off. No longer a threat to Western Europe perhaps, but off the top of my head, Romania gained independence from the Ottoman Empire in 1878, Bulgaria as late as 1900 or so. Serbia, mid-1800s. That’s not the 1700s.
I’m not disputing that E. Europe is behind W. Europe for more than one reason, but your arguments above are incorrect.
Wellington says
My timeline is not off in the least. By the 19th century, per Czar Nicholas the First, the Ottoman Empire was indeed the “sick man of Europe” and in profound decay. Therefore, first Greeks, then Romanians, Bulgarians, Serbians et al., finally casting off Ottoman rule at such time was merely a formality, long overdue.
In short, you refuted nothing of my refutation of your refutation respecting my commentary on your initial comment.
Again, your turn.
FooBar says
, finally casting off Ottoman rule at such time was merely a formality, long overdue.
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The ‘mere formality’ you refer to == bloody wars, which were called wars of independence. Some formality. And it’s Serbs, not ‘Serbians’. The same Serbs who were bombed by Germany and the US trying to recover their ancestral homeland of Kosovo from the rule of Islam.
Not sure why you’re trying to minimize the evil and extent of Ottoman/Muslim occupation in Eastern & Southern Europe. I bet this is the influence of the PC propaganda according to which the ottomans were benevolent and tolerant of religious diversity, loving Jews, etc etc.
Wellington says
I assure you that I am in no way trying to minimize the many negatives of Ottoman rule in the Balkans. I for one am glad sundry Balkan peoples finally got rid of Ottoman rule in the 19th century. It’s no good, you know, setting up a straw man and then knocking him down.
But let’s remember where this conversation started, i.e., that, per your contention, “the reason” why Eastern Europe for centuries lagged behind Western Europe was due to “Ottoman invasions.” My contention, countering yours, is that it is much more complicated than this, that ascribing Eastern Europe lagging behind Western Europe, which it did big time, cannot just be due to “Ottoman invasions.” Why, in England alone in the 17th century, all kinds of political ideas were developed, discussed and implemented, the likes of which not even a morsel of such can be found in Eastern Europe in said century. Then there are all the technological innovations that Western Europe is responsible for that drove, among other Eastern Europeans, Peter the Great to travel to Western Europe to learn of such extraordinary accomplishments. Surely you can see that all this achievement by Western Europe versus Eastern Europe over many centuries cannot be explained by the factor of “Ottoman invasions.” Surely.
And don’t go off on tangents about the US bombing Serbia. Doing so, you know, is straying from the topic, which you have shown you are wont to do. And, btw, I think it was stupid of America and Western Europe to support an independent Kosovo. Just for the record and all that.
Your turn again, that is if you are so inclined.
FooBar says
And, btw, I think it was stupid of America and Western Europe to support an independent Kosovo. Just for the record and all that.
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Thanks. It’s a nice surprise to hear that from a Western European.
FooBar says
I’m sure that Ottoman occupation was not the only factor and that reality is ‘much more complicated’. It always is. But it is ignorant to underestimate the effects of living under Sharia law as dhimmis for hundreds of years, and labelling the wars against the turks as mere formalities. Had it not been for the Turks, would E. Europe be at the level of W. Europe? I dont know. This is a control experiment we cant perform
Mark Swan says
The Soviet Union tried to Drain The Very Life From Eastern Europe—still they will play a
real part in Europe Yet.
Lookmann says
@Foobar,
‘But it is ignorant to underestimate the effects of living under Sharia law as dhimmis for hundreds of years, and labelling the wars against the turks as mere formalities’
Exactly.’Convert or die’ policy. Even in cases one is allowed to be ‘dhimmi’ no basic human respect or decency is shown.80 to 90% agri or grain tax, women folk taken as slaves, adult males murdered .This happened in India under Muslim rule for eight centuries Same must have happened there[ Eastern Europe]
Humans can be progressive only when there is no hunger or fear (of life)
lasslax says
Yes, that’s a funny idea. I sometimes wonder, if it will be Eastern Europe coming best out in the next 20-30 years, just by avoiding this migrations and the problems it causes.
mccode says
Viktor Orban, Geer Wilders, Donald Trump.
All with the backbone and good sense to speak the truth.
CrossWare says
Ivan proud to be a Hungarian and have this man as my PM. We will fight if necessary to keep our freedom. We gave our history with Islam still alive in the soul of Hungarians. The communist era taught us to smell a rat and oh boy the stench of EU is overwhelming.
CrossWare says
Damn autocorrect.
Wellington says
This American wishes to pass on my esteem for your Prime Minister. We need someone like him as President of the United States of America. Trump is the best America can do for now. Trump may actually, if elected, do some real good. But eventually we need someone Churchill-like. Wilders in The Netherlands fits the bill here I think. So does Victor Orban I believe. And so it appears that the current Czech and Polish leadership do as well. In any case, kudos to Hungary for being what it is——-a beacon of sanity in an insane world.
Mubarak says
What’s the fuss about?
Total licentiousness calls for total control. Islam works hand in glove with the West and the imported Muslims are just doing and will do their job. – It’s the beast in unholy alliance with the false prophet trying to initiate a Bellum omnium contra omnes.
Angemon says
“Total control”? Is that what you’re calling to an ideology that sanctifies depravity? For example, you complain about public nudity and say that burqas are a response to it. Do you know that in islam slave girls are allowed to walk around topless? Who gets to decide if they do or don’t? Their owner, obviously.
gravenimage says
More from the foul Mubarak:
What’s the fuss about?
Total licentiousness calls for total control. Islam works hand in glove with the West and the imported Muslims are just doing and will do their job. – It’s the beast in unholy alliance with the false prophet trying to initiate a Bellum omnium contra omnes.
………………………………..
Yet more repulsive claptrap. Muslims are violently *invading* the West, but Mubarak would have us believe that we are attracting Jihadists because we are so “decadent” as to allow women out in public, and that we hence *deserve* to be raped and murdered by Muslims.
He believe’s it is his coreligionists’ “job” to slaughter us.
In case you wonder what the “beast” is, it is the free West and her values and freedoms.
And this creep is misquoting Hobbes–this is not a war of “all against all”–it is just ravening Muslims attacking Infidels. And despite Mubarak’s obfuscation, this is true whether the victims are Westerners or not.
gravenimage says
Another point, which Angemon addresses: the idea that the West represents “total licentiousness” that invites Islam’s “total control” means that Mubarak considers raping little boys at pools and mass-molesting women in the street as moral “control”.
This is the same “morality” that blasts the West for allowing men and women to date, but sanctions pedophilia and the rape of sex slaves, and considers this “chaste”. *Ugh*.
common sense says
Fresh air. In April PM Orban sealed Hungary’s border stating that “the Islamization of Hungary is unconstitutional”.
A brief congratulatory and thankful email was acknowledged and actually replied to thanking us for our support. I was elated, providence moves.
I get nothing back from CA representatives senators, assembly men or the governors office. That says it all.
TheOldOligarch says
Viktor is my favourite European leader by far. He’s got the balls and patriotism of Putin but without being so sinister.
Rose says
Since the influx of Muslim refugees really got serious in September 2015, I’ve wondered WHY other middle eastern nations have not taken in their fellow Muslims. Saudi Arabia and Iran, for example. OR why could there not have been a “safe-zone” set up and patrolled by NATO nation’s military??
I keep thinking that the Arabs and Iranians are pleased with these developments….Islam on the move in the West, all according to the big plan.
Oliver says
The Saudis and Kuwaitis (people from Kuwait/ their rulers) SAID NO TO THE ” SYRIAN” REFUGEES.
One (I think it was from Kuwait) called the “refugees” “garbage”. Sorry, don’t have the link, it was a few months back.
However, the Saudis do have several thousands of air conditioned tents- sitting vacant;.
somehistory says
“In hot water”…for telling the truth.
That has been the way of things for at least 2000 years. Christ was killed because He spoke the truth.
This gentleman is telling the truth and the water may get hotter for him than just being called names. Those calling the names are the *disgusting* ones. And the ones they are supporting are murderers and rapists.
Angemon says
While there is a lot I could say about Mr. Orban’s speech, I just reduce it to one word:
Bra-f**ing-vo!
David says
Congrats to this outstanding leader in Hungary for his ability to recognize bull when he sees and hears it. Why would any self respecting leader of a great country relinquish all rites to a bunch of unelected elites. Angela Merkal has but destroyed Europe by opening the borders to all who want to come for any reason ! What a fool. So far the British are the only wise ones by pulling out of the E U.
whocares says
I LOVE this guy!!! one of the very few who stands up against the kabbalah of the “tolerant fools”, yes fools they think they control both ends of the stick (I’m talking here about the NWO hegelian morons) where in reality they are too arrogant to realize how well they’ve deluded themselves into this trap and unfortunately it’ll be way to late for us all to get out of it, world will already be in shambles AND yes of course it does increase CRIME, many of those who came are simply dregs of world’s society, scum and the worst of the earth’s offspring!
Alarmed Pig Farmer says
Is this a first? I don’t recall a head of state, an Infidel state, publicly calling Islam what it is, and noting the dire consequences that entail from Moslem importation. I remember Howard speaking up a little down in Oz, but that cost him his seat. This may be a breakthough.
gravenimage says
I hope so, APF.
Guest says
About time someone said it
abad says
Orban is 1000% correct, Muslim migrants are hell-bent on destroying the western world with their religion from Hell.
Champ says
“religion from hell” is right!!! ..islam is *wholly* evil.
Jaladhi says
Islam is nothing but evil, evil, evil! Nobody should doubt it!
Jaladhi says
Finally, somebody with some brain and guts!1 If only all Western politicians be like him, the problem of jihad and Muslims can be solved.
jimmi says
he does that for some votes. That’s all. There are very few muslims in hungary..
Benedict says
Mr.Orban said it like it is. Bugger the human rights organization. Infiltrated by leftists, liberals and the so called progressive elements. He does not need to apologize for calling migrants ‘poison’.
Benedict says
So!, that is why he is called a politician. Most politicians will do the same to stay elected
gravenimage says
Hungary PM blisters EU elites, says Muslim migration “increases terrorism and crime” and “destroys national culture”
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Bravo Viktor Orban!
FooBar says
People, please note that he states that the main, underlying problem is not Islamic immigration, but the progressive elites ruling Europe. 30 years ago, the progressive elites of Europe have tried to ally themselves with the Communists in their attempt to destroy traditional Europe. Now they’re using Islam for the same purpose. This time they will succeed, as Islam is far more dangerous than Communism.
jimmi says
…he is stating the obvious without a solution…
Westman says
He does have a solution….for Hungary. Remember, he has already closed the borders to Muslim refugee immigration.
David M says
I love this guy! Germans will be fleeing to Hungary soon.
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Oliver says
Just curious- what has this to do with the topic?
Agnishtoma says
Wow!!! A great leader and a Visionary, who actually visualizes what will happen and is brave enough to tell it out. Wish India had leaders like this too. Indian politician’s except for a couple of them are a bunch of big rascals and pirates. Orban, may the like’s of you increase in the world!!!
Richard Paulsen says
Why are not all leaders in Europe like him? Should be, if normal.
Others including voters totally irrationally cheat by acting as if islam is good for welfare, peace, women and the workingclass.
It is so ridiculous.
lasslax says
Unfortunately the picture is not that spotless.
Orban is very right about the migrants, and has quite a few points about the EU, but at the very same time he runs a rather corrupt regim internally in Hungary. Wich polarises the politics in Hungary, and makes him be hated of half the population. And just because they do hate him and his governing, the opposition takes part of the migrants, even though they should understand it better.
I’m affraid, this will be the picture all over Eastern Europe, and sooner or later the Western as well.
By the way, have a look at Oriana Fallacis book she wrote some 10 years ago about the situation today. She was a real Cassandra! Read “The Force of Reason”
Youll be surprised how someone could predict all this!
Yorkshire Kufir says
Wellington makes a good point, but the proximity of the Russian empire was also a factor, and Russia was and still is an incubator of authoritarianism, as was the ottoman empire, the arabic empire and the persian empires before that. All of those entities have tried and failed to move westward The real battle is the noble struggle by authoritarian sociopaths against decadent free thinking scum who do things, attempt to understand the universe, not order intimidate others into bloodshed and fearful hallucination.
Wellington your analysis is incomplete, you do not understand the nature of the conflict unfolding.
Or maybe you do, and are backing the the retrograde side.
Yorkshire Kufir says
So, the ideologues call him a racist! So what? They are not responsible for a nation, all they have is an idea of how things should be without the wit, ability or vision to make them so. They are empty vessels, and they make the most noise. And that noise has no meaning.
David Quilty says
With Eastern Europe leading the way its Gates of Vienna all over again, I hope.
Richard Paulsen says
Like Saudi-Arabia is building mosques in Europe and destroy Europe it will take all water from Europe to the needs in arabstates instead.
The arab world is lacking water. Using the ground water. Taking some 200 years to regain two centimetre loss. Almost out there. Deeper and deeper wells. Their agriculture is in a terrible state.
Islam that is so perfect. Why do they escape from muslim countries if so? Why is it not allowed to criticize islam since people are escaping from it and want to go to Europe? Media absolutely silence.
Islam should be criticized. If they want to make life better for themselves.
Why do they not criticize islam, since islamic countries are so bad?
Why is there no criticism against any islamic country? Why are they not being called fascistic?
Why do they want to go to Europe and without any limit since islam is so good? Why are they building mosque after mosque from the Northern to the Southern from the Wesern to the East of Europe if they escape from islamic countries?
Why are they allowed to build mosques in Europe? Europe is Christian and respect Enlightenment.
Absurd mosques are allowed being built in Europe and the U.S.A.
Why do they not use money for mosques in Europe and all the Western world to help arabstates in need instead?
Why are they only starting wars and have lack of food and water? Why have they destroyed their agriculture? Why is their agriculture in such a bad satte? Despite economical support from all the West for decades?
European leaders having lots to think about. Will they? Depends on the votes. Stlll there is a chance to vote, however being neglected for years.
Malcolm Jackson says
3 cheers for Victor Orban. Saying how we all feel. Hopefully the EU will be gone within 5 years.
rooare says
PM Orban tells the truth and is attacked for being a xenophobe. It’s not wrong to fear those whose ideology calls for your destruction, and then defend yourselves as required for the survival of your nation and culture.
Lookmann says
Spencer says
Orban is right. He should be heading up the EU, if only to dissolve it.
Well, the next EU President ,Slovakian PM {or President) has similar views on Islam and migration.
Lookmann says
The link is
Slovakian Prime Minister says ‘Islam has no place in this country’ – weeks before it takes over EU presidency
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/islam-has-no-place-in-this-country-says-slovakian-prime-minister-weeks-before-it-takes-over-eu-a7052506.html