Former intelligence director Lieutenant General Michael Flynn has revealed that laptops seized from Islamic State jihadists are filled up to 80 per cent with porn films.
The ex-chief of the Defense Intelligence Agency says that the graphic films have been desensitizing jihadists “to carry out their hideous brutality” against infidel women, and particularly against Yazidi girls who are forced into sex slavery and forced to pray before being raped.
Flynn also states:
“We looked a ruthless enemy in the eye – women and children, girls and boys, raped and exploited, the beheadings stored on a laptop next to pornography…..these sick, psychopathic enemies were not only unimaginably hideous, but also treacherous…”
All the while, Muslim women are decreed by Islamic law to be covered from head to toe, even in scorching heat, except, of course, under exceptional circumstances to be noted: a Muslim woman can be fully “honored” as a jihadi and a “martyr”, if she decides to service sexually deprived male jihadists.
A note to the piously covered: the high today in Iraq is 107 degrees, compared with 114 later in the week. In Saudi Arabia, it’s 106, but 111 later this week.
“Laptops recovered from ISIS jihadists are filled ‘up to 80%’ with PORN, reveals former US intelligence director”, by Allan Hall and Jennifer Newton, UK Daily Mail, July 13, 2016:
Laptops recovered from ISIS jihadists are filled ‘up to 80%’ with PORN, reveals former US intelligence director”, by Allan Hall and Jennifer Newton, UK Daily Mail, July 13, 2016:
A former US intelligence director has revealed that laptops seized from ISIS jihadis are filled up to 80 per cent with porn films.
Lieutenant General Michael Flynn, an ex-chief of the Defence Intelligence Agency says the graphic films inures extremists to carry out their hideous brutality.
And he adds that intelligence gathering and the closing down of the fanatics’ communications channels is key to beating them.
Flynn made the claims in the German newspaper Bild, where his book on winning the war against radical Islam is being serialised.
The veteran, who is a potential running mate for Donald Trump in the US election later this year, wrote: ‘We looked a ruthless enemy in the eye – women and children, girls and boys, raped and exploited, the beheadings stored on a laptop next to pornography.
‘At one point we actually had determined that the material on the laptops was up to 80 per cent pornography.
‘These sick, psychopathic enemies were not only unimaginably hideous, but also treacherous and torn. We had to work faster to outwit them if we wanted to beat them.’
However, it is not the first time that jihadis have been linked to having pornography on their laptops.
Last year, former London mayor Boris Johnson said that homegrown fanatics from the UK who go to join ISIS are w*****s who watch porn because they can’t find girlfriends.
He explained that British terrorists often become radicalised because of their badly adjusted relations with women and turn to extremism to stop them feeling like losers.
Speaking at the time, Mr Johnson said: ‘If you look at all the psychological profiling about bombers, they typically will look at porn. They are literally w*****s’.
Meanwhile US officials also revealed in 2011 that former al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden had a stash of pornography as he hid in his squalid lair in Pakistan.
U.S. Navy Seals said they uncovered the x-rated films during the mission to kill the terror leader, who masterminded the 9/11 attacks…….

Guest says
We are fully aware that ISIS are immoral pigs.
خَليفة says
Muslims love porn. People in Muslim countries visit porn site more frequently and more regularly than people in non Muslim contries. Pakistan has by far, the largest number of Internet searches for all kinds of porn, animal, child, etc – the most perverted things. Saudi Arabia has very high demand for erectile dysfunction drugs.
http://life-in-saudiarabia.blogspot.com/2014/11/high-use-of-viagra-in-saudi-arabia.html#.V4aE5ZBpaK0
When your religion teaches that in Jannah your penis “will not bend” and that it will be higher than palm trees, what can you expect from such people in this life? In Jannah Muslims eat and drink; I wonder how they urinate there with palm-tree-sized boners, I guess they don’t.
Christianblood says
In the meantime, US officials refuse to answer why CIA arms sent to the Syrian “moderate” jihadists are ending up in black markets in the region.
Watch please: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pmbCjNZAfs
Angemon says
What does that have to do with jihadis and porn?
Jay Boo says
Islam — The (Donkey Porn) revelation religion.
Muhammad’s talking donkey was so heart-broken after Muhammad died that it committed suicide . Unlike Muhammad’s sex slaves this appeared to be mutually consensual relationship.
Christianblood says
Angemon posted
(What does that have to do with jihadis and porn?)
It makes more sense to focus on the suicidal and STUPID US policies of arming jihadists than a wasting time on useless jihadis pornography. The whole world knows that these jihadists have thousands of sex-slaves and sell them on open markets everyday. The much more mature question is why America arming these barbaric, cruel animals???
Watch US officials sheepishly refuse and deny to answer why CIA arms sent to the Syrian “moderate” jihadists are ending up in black markets in the region:
Angemon says
Christianbood posted:
“It makes more sense to focus on the suicidal and STUPID US policies of arming jihadists than a wasting time on useless jihadis pornography. ”
So it has nothing to do and it’s just another of your usual spewing of anti-American propaganda with no relation whatsoever to the topic at hand. Got it.
“The much more mature question is why America arming these barbaric, cruel animals??? ”
Is it?
“Watch US officials sheepishly refuse and deny to answer why CIA arms sent to the Syrian “moderate” jihadists are ending up in black markets in the region:”
Ah, so according to you, the CIA is responsible for what happens to stuff after leaving their hands – weapons were stolen from the people they were allegedly handed over to and are showing up in black markets? Why, the CIA is to blame, of course! I can smell the Communist Russian collectivist mindset miles away…
gravenimage says
In other words, as “Christianblood” would have it, bloody Jihad is not a problem–but the “Great Satan” America *is*…
jimmi says
No just a celebration of sexuality… Theirs is the worst kind of deprevations.
The most internet searches prompted in Pakistan are “child rape”, “goat sex”, “pig sex”, “rape porn”,…
Overly disgusting, utterly evil,…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYut_oa_fis
No just free legal porn… illegal criminal porn.
I am pretty sure these ISIS losers enjoy sadist child pornography…
gravenimage says
Yes–it is not just that Muslims are drawn to porn, but the very *worst* porn.
Jay Boo says
The Qur’an is a form of porn.
JOHN SPIELMAN says
that’s because muhammad was an immoral demon possessed mass murderer thief liar rapist and peophile PIG and considered by muslims as “the perfect man” who could do no wrong and who they must model their filthy sinful lives after
Jay Boo says
True but Islam is not just sinful and evil.
This (talking donkey) religion is an obvious JOKE.
Politicallyincorrectistruth says
That`s an insult to pigs.
particolor says
Gawd !! Someone’s woken up that they are LYING HIPOCRITS 🙂
Jaladhi says
Oh those pious Muslims- stupid hypocrites! The sooner this religion is wiped out of this planet, the sooner we all be better..
TruthWFree says
Yes, Islam is Satanic and needs to be wiped off the face of the earth…Come, Lord Jesus!
Donna says
Seems like a good article to note this too – Be wary of online “pedo hunting” groups, especially on social networks that have a heavy Islamic presence (G+ & Twitter especially) – the intent of some of these groups is for YOU to load up your computers with “child porn” in an effort to destroy credibility. So while you think you’re spending time on a worthwhile cause, you’re actually being set up for a nightmare.
eduardo odraude says
Another brilliant video from David Wood:
Islam and the Sheepgate conspiracy
خَليفة says
Thanks… David Wood is one of my favorite exposers of Islam.
gravenimage says
Yes–David Wood is brilliant!
Walter Sieruk says
First.we may all may to sure that the Muslim clerics will come up with some excuse for that Islamic “state” porn scandal. For evil is always looking for an excuse. For example maybe the ISIS imams will say that the ISIS jihadists who have those porn stuff are really looking past the porn part and are looking a a preview of the paradise with houris. Another one is maybe those imams might say that the jihadists ISIS are planning to become “martyrs” and a Muslim warrior who dies fighting for Islam as a “martyr’ will have all his forgiven , including the sin of the use of porn. As just stated above “Evil is always looking for an excuse.” Second , to move on, those ISIS Muslim /jihadist are so very blind to reality because they are trapped in a cave. That is the Cave of Islam. As in the Muslim/jihadists, who make up ISIS, as well as other Muslims, are shackled within the Cave of Islam. What is meant by this statement is explained by the following. The Greek philosopher Plato is one of the contributors to Western Civilization. He may shed some light into the subject of those people who are shackled in the chains and darkness of Islamic thought. In Plato’s REPUBLIC he gave an allegory of a cave where “the condition of men living in a sort of cavernous chamber…Here they have been from childhood, chained by leg and also by the neck, so that they cannot move and see only what is in front of them.” This can fit into what the Imams do in the mosques and how they brainwash the young people in the madrassa’s by always programming Islamic doctrine into their victims and not exposing them to other worldviews. Furthermore, even in Islamic tradition when Muslims have their newborn child the father whispers words of the Quran into the infants ear so that that Quran verses are the first thing the newborn person hears. This programming process takes place all their lives. These are some of the chains that keep them bound in a mosque [cave]. The chains do not let them reach out for dialectic reasoning and let them examine the evidence both for as well as against, or even question whether Muhammad was a true prophet of God or not, and if the Quran is a hoax or not. As the chains and darkness of the cave blinds and holds the prisoners back from reality, so Islamic propaganda holds back the cognition to reason with the question if Islam is true or not. They are forbidden from even thinking to question Islam. Furthermore, if a Muslim by some miracle wakes up to the truth about Islam, it would be like the man in Plato’s cave allegory who was released from his chains and taken outside to the real world. At first direct light would be painful and disorienting, it would take some time for him to understand what the truth is all about, he even might cling to the shadows and still for a time believe some of the illusions to be real. But he would finally come to know “what he had formerly seen was meaningless illusion.” And that was “what passed for wisdom in his former dewelling-place.”And that the other cave prisoners also needed to see the light [the truth] for he “was sorry for them.” and he would re-enter the cave just to rescue them. Nevertheless, the cave prisoners wouldn’t understand and “if they could lay hand on the man who was trying to set them free.” And if they could “they would kill him.” Likewise, when someone escapes from the shackles of Islam, those still in the darkness of this religion would not understand and if possible kill him for leaving Islam, and even more so if he were to try to enlighten them about the truth about Islam. For these people in Islam are chained to an empty imitation of truth and godliness.
abad says
Just when I used to think sexual perversion in the Roman Catholic Church was a problem.
Islam is the SICKEST cult on the face of the earth.
But then look at who Muslims worship, the God of Perversion Himself, Satan (Allah)
John spielman says
Yep! Satan/Allah masqueraded as the angel Gabriel just as Paul the apostle of Christ warned everyone about. if muhammed pbuh* had bothered to read the Bible, he would have known that!
pbuh* – perpetual banishment unto hell!
Angemon says
I’m quite sure that there are men and women, all across the social spectrum, that have badly adjusted relationships with the opposite (or same – I’m not here to judge anyone) sex. So why is it that terrorism is mostly concentrated on the followers of muhammad?
gravenimage says
Exactly so. There are all sorts of people who are sexually awkward in one way or another. They are not, as a rule, out waging violent Jihad as a result–unless they are Muslim, that is.
Linde Barrera says
In my opinion, those who adore porn have repressed sex lives and live vicariously through the players/actors, OR are total narcissists. And I DO judge them. I give either category of porn lovers 2 thumbs down. ??
gravenimage says
Linde, they are a mixed bag. There are actually married couples who use porn in an at least relatively healthy manner. And while most porn presents at least consensual relationships, some of it is *really ugly*–rape, violent sex, pedophilia (or implied pedophilia), and bestiality.
Westman says
This stuff is revolting to good Western values.
I’m going to step out on a limb and ask, “Is there anything in the Quran or Hadith that prohibits a Muslim man from viewing an Infidel woman in various states of undress if she chooses that appearance?”
I remember reading here that a Muslim “scholar” said an Infidel slave could be paraded in public, “naked from the waist up.”
Everything I read in Quranic instructions unfairly places the onus to avoid raising sexual lust solely upon the Muslim woman. Apparently, Allah assumes that Muslim men are seething fountains of lust that are beyond self-control.
So if these w–kers have pornography on their computers is it haraam? It certainly violates Western standards, but does it violate Islam?
Jack Diamond says
If you go to a site like Islam Q&A, the mullahs condemnation will be tied to verses like:
Allah, may He be exalted, says (interpretation of the meaning):
“Tell the believing men to lower their gaze (from looking at forbidden things), and protect their private parts (from illegal sexual acts, etc.). That is purer for them. Verily, Allah is All-Aware of what they do.”
[an-Noor 24:30].
Viewing pornography is haraam and leads to other sins (masturbation, zina). So, raping captives, halal. Watching pornography, haraam. However. chances are the mullahs are watching it too. Given what we know about the example of Muhammad and his Companions, it is not surprising this particular haraam seems universally ignored by Muslims. Islam is never what it pretends to be.
Porn dehumanizes women, but then so does Islam, and kaffirs are already depicted as less than human beings– and their women equivalent to whores. Besides being lusted after as Allah-certified Spoils of War. Porn is also a pretty good preview of coming attractions in the Islamic Paradise, Allah’s Big Whorehouse in Hell. Still, a Muslim might resist porn for orthodox reasons. Except if he is waging jihad, as all these laptop-dancers are. Because there is no reason not to.
Jihad is so exalted it erases all earthly sins. It also permits many things otherwise prohibited.
Raymond Ibrahim had an article on “Sex Jihad” illustrating how far this can go. An Imam had issued a fatwa calling on Muslim women to travel to Syria and offer themselves as prostitutes for sex-starved jihadis. Another fatwa was “behind” permission for Abdullah Hassan al-Asiri to be sodomized so to better hide explosives up his rectum. It was all to assassinate a Saudi Prince (he only injured the Prince but Asiri, let us say, farted his way to the Afterlife).
As Raymond notes: “While all these sex-fatwas may seem bizarre, they highlight two important (though little known in the West) points. First, that jihad is the “pinnacle” of Islam—for it makes Islam supreme; and second, the idea that “necessity makes permissible the prohibited.” Because making Islam supreme through jihad is the greatest priority, anything and everything that is otherwise banned becomes permissible. All that comes to matter is one’s intention, or niyya.
“As for the intersection between sex and violence (jihad), it was once explored by the Arabic satellite program Daring Question, which aired various clips of young jihadis giddily singing about their forthcoming deaths and subsequent sexual escapades in heaven. After documenting various anecdotes indicative of jihadi obsession with sex, Egyptian human rights activist Magdi Khalil concluded that “absolutely everything [jihad, suicide operations, etc.] revolves around sex in paradise,” adding, “if you look at the whole of Islamic history, you come up with two words: sex and violence.”
Indeed, Islam’s prophet Muhammad maintained that death during jihad not only blots out all sins—including sexual ones—but it actually gratifies them:
“The martyr is special to Allah. He is forgiven [of all sins] from the first drop of blood [that he sheds]. He sees his throne in paradise, where he will be adorned in ornaments of faith. He will wed the ‘Aynhour [a.k.a. “voluptuous women”] and will not know the torments of the grave, and safeguards against the greater terror [hell]. … And he will copulate with 72 ‘Aynhour.”
This goes to one of the many seeming contradictions in Islam: Muslim women must chastely be covered head-to-toe—yet, in the service of jihad, they are allowed to prostitute themselves. Lying is forbidden—but permissible to empower Islam. Intentionally killing women and children is forbidden—but permissible during the jihad. Suicide is forbidden—but permissible during the jihad—when it is called “martyrdom.”
One may therefore expect anything from would-be jihadis, regardless of how un-Islamic the means may otherwise seem.”
http://www.raymondibrahim.com/2013/06/23/the-sex-jihad/
Tommy says
https://youtu.be/cqHsAg087ug
gravenimage says
Islamic State jihadists’ laptops filled with porn
………………………..
I first discovered this phenomenon long before I understood anything much about Jihad.
When I was first at UC Berkeley, I worked at the International House. During the Summer, a wing was used for visiting scholars. I cleaned the rooms with a small staff.
After check-out, I noticed that there were two groups who left a *lot* of girly stuff and porn behind: Japanese professors and those from the Middle East and other Muslim countries.
But the *content* of what these two groups left could not have been more different: the Japanese visitors left behind things like bikini calendars and the then ubiquitous Farrah Fawcett in a swimsuit poster (this was the late ’70s). Occasionally there would be stacks of Playboy and Penthouse magazines, but this was usually as “hardcore” as it got. Sometimes it would be no more than lots of fashion magazines. A bit obsessive, but pretty wholesome stuff, for the most part. A lot of this could not be considered actual porn in any but the loosest sense.
You could *not* say the same thing for those from the Middle East. While we would sometimes find those same Playboy and Penthouse mags, there was also lots of truly hardcore stuff–including some *very* disturbing stuff, some of it staged rapes and sadism. A lot of this featured “underage” girls, as well–at least girls sporting pony-tails and school-girl uniforms. Whether the girls were actually underage or not, they were clearly intended to appeal to pedophiles. Also–to my surprise at the time–a lot of homosexual porn, as well.
Remember that this stuff was a lot harder to find in the late ’70s and early ’80s than now, as well.
My two experiences of being asked for dates could not have been more different, either. A Japanese professor asked me for a date, and I politely told him we could not date guests (I made this up, but it seemed like a nice excuse). He was very apologetic. In fact, the only awkward thing was that he insisted on profusely apologizing again whenever he saw me over the next several weeks, even though I assured him it was not a problem.
When a Middle Eastern man–I think he was from Pakistan–asked to go out with me, he blocked the door so that I could not leave. He was *very* aggressive, and when I told him about the no-dating “policy”, he suggested it did not apply to him. It was not easy for me to leave.
I told my supervisor that I would not be cleaning this creep’s room again, and that he could assign the one male room cleaner we had if he wanted (I was *not* going to send another girl into a situation like that). As it turned out, he just didn’t get his room cleaned at all, and had to go to the front desk for fresh towels and sheets.
When he finally checked out, his room was filthy and filled with a huge cache of *very* disturbing porn.
It took me a long time to realize how much of this had to do with Islam, and what it teaches about women and about sex, but my own experience fit in perfectly with what I later learned.
The story above does not at all surprise me. Islam is a “religion” of porn–and the *very ugliest* kind of porn. That is what Muslims believe awaits them as “martyrs” in Paradise–an eternity of raping virgins and young boys.
PRCS says
Eeeew!
Angemon says
Eeeew indeed – I don’t know how many showers it’ll take to me to feel clean again, and I was just reading the account, not experiencing it.
gravenimage says
Eeeew! was my reaction at the time, as well. It’s just about as bad remembering it.
PRCS says
Lt.Gen Flynn is getting a lot of air time, lately, for several reasons–one being his new book.
I note that he repeatedly uses the phrase “radical Islamism”.
Given that he thinks there’s a difference between regular, everyday, run-of-the-mill, garden variety Islamism and its always undefined “radical” version, one must wonder if he actually knows what Islamism actually is.
dumbledoresarmy says
I understand that in Britain some years ago two originally entirely separate teams of cops – those assigned to sus out and counter jihadi terrorist plots, and those assigned to track down pedophiles – kept on bumping into each other in the course of pursuing their investigations so often that they even considered collaborating. Because there was such a big overlap. They *didn’t* team up, however, more’s the pity.
http://frontpagemagazine.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=EFC10CD9-F671-40D1-AF69-0249117FCEC3
The Depraved World of Jihadi Child Porn By Stephen Brown FrontPageMagazine.com | Friday, October 24, 2008
I quote, from this article:
“Besides their well-known penchant for anti-Semitism, misogyny and nihilistic violence, Muslim extremists are also gaining a disturbing reputation among British security agencies as collectors of child pornography.
“According to a report on The Times website last week, police in Great Britain are discovering that their investigations into Muslim terrorism are leading them into the depraved world of child sexual exploitation.
“**The reverse is also occurring with child protection officers encountering people who are “preparing to carry out terrorist acts.”** {my emphasis – dda}.
“At one time, the link between the two deviant behaviours was considered so strong that security officials considered establishing an anti-terrorism project involving child welfare experts, but never followed through because Scotland Yard’s hands were too full with other terrorist investigations…”.
“British security personnel first became aware of a connection between Muslim extremism and child pornography in 2006.
” When investigating the terrorist connections of an east end London mosque preacher, Abdul Makim Khalisadar, **a former primary school assistant** {my emphasis. !!!! – dda}, the 26-year-old’s DNA was found to match that of an unsolved rape case of a woman.
“Upon his arrest, police discovered Khalisadar also had a large amount of hardcore child pornography material on his computer.
“In the same year, police made a similar discovery after raiding a suspected Muslim terrorist’s home, looking for a chemical bomb.
“While no explosive device was found, police did discover 44 “indecent” pictures of children on the 23-year-old man’s home computer and cell phone.
“Child porn, The Times reports, has been found “during investigations into some of the most advanced suspected plots.”
“European security officials first discovered child porn images in a Muslim extremist’s possession when they raided a mosque in Milan, Italy, in 2001….”.
“When arrested, Abdelkader Ayachine, a suspected Muslim terrorist currently awaiting trial in Spain, possessed almost 40,000 child pornographic movies and images, a number far exceeding any need for encoded communications.
“Ayachine was connected to the Casablanca bombing terrorist group that killed 45 people in 2003 and stands accused in the Spanish court of inciting jihad and recruiting fighters for the Iraq war.
“Prosecutors say his child pornography collection consisted mainly of “minors having sex, among themselves and with adults.”…
“…one anti-terror source told the Times: **“A way of finding who the extremists and terrorists are is to go through the child porn sites.”** {my emphasis – dda}.
Let’s repeat: “A way of finding who the [Muslim] extremists and terrorists are is to go through the child porn sites.”
I do hope that any intelligent Islamoaware infidel *cop* who might happen to be reading this post over my shoulder will bear that sentence in mind. And perhaps drop a word or two in the ear of the relevant colleagues.
gravenimage says
Thanks for that information, DDA–all *very* telling.
Angemon says
Heads up, DDA, the link is dead. I googled the title and found:
http://archive.frontpagemag.com/readArticle.aspx?ARTID=32846
in case you want to update the bookmark.
Also, that sounds like the basis for a series of crossovers between NCIS and Criminal Minds with an overarching plot behind them – if only it weren’t so politically incorrect to accurately portray muslims in TV shows…
dumbledoresarmy says
thanks for updating that link, Angemon.
Links going dead is one of the reasons why, if I encounter a particularly telling article, I *always* copy and keep a complete copy at the time, as well as keeping a copy of the link. Because sometimes when links break things disappear altogether.
Angemon says
A wise precaution. I can’t even imagine how much material you amassed over the years, but you should consider sharing your CJ scrapbook online – using, of course, all and every precaution so that it can’t be traced back to your IP.
gravenimage says
DDA, kudos to you on the vast treasure trove of important materials you have amassed, and thank you for so often sharing them here.
billybob says
“Former intelligence director Lieutenant General Michael Flynn has revealed that laptops seized from Islamic State jihadists are filled up to 80 per cent with porn films. Meanwhile US officials also revealed in 2011 that former al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden had a stash of pornography as he hid in his squalid lair in Pakistan.”
Wow – what a strange measure “filled up to 80 per cent”. How many gigabytes is that? Must be a lot…
You all do realize how the military sows disinformation about the enemy, as part of their psy-ops campaigns? I wouldn’t believe a word of it. It may be true that these jihadis like porn, or it may not be true. It is just that I wouldn’t take the word of the military as being any help whatsoever to illuminate the situation.
Of course we are all ready at a moment’s notice to believe the worst about jihadists, but you need to realize how this plays into Obama’s fantasy that ISIS “aren’t Islamic”, they have “hijacked Islam”. You need to consider how this promotes his narrative. If these jihadists are shown up to be nothing but porn-addicted hoodlums, it reinforces Obama’s claims that these are not pious Muslims, because obviously, pious Muslims could not be porn addicts because they must be just like pious Jews or pious Christians who we know are certainly not porn addicts (well – with the exception of a few priests).
You gotta take statements like this coming out of the military with a grain of salt.
dumbledoresarmy says
Why the extreme scepticism?
Did you even bother reading the post by Gravenimage, above? Or the post that *I* made, citing the experience of *other* investigators, *within European countries*, over eight years ago? Pedophile hunters bumping into terrorist hunters… because the people they were tracking down kept turning out to be the *same* people.
If what the military say they are finding matches up with what other people – in widely different situations – have found, isn’t it just possible that, well, they *are* finding a whole pile of this stuff?
billybob says
I don’t think I had read the post you referred to. I have read it now and stand corrected. Thanks.
gravenimage says
billybob wrote:
You all do realize how the military sows disinformation about the enemy, as part of their psy-ops campaigns? I wouldn’t believe a word of it. It may be true that these jihadis like porn, or it may not be true. It is just that I wouldn’t take the word of the military as being any help whatsoever to illuminate the situation.
Of course we are all ready at a moment’s notice to believe the worst about jihadists, but you need to realize how this plays into Obama’s fantasy that ISIS “aren’t Islamic”, they have “hijacked Islam”. You need to consider how this promotes his narrative…
…………………
Oh, good grief, billybob.
It has been shown over and over again that Muslims are *huge* consumers of pornography:
“Top 10 Countries That Watch The Most Porn”
http://postober.com/general/top-10-countries-that-watch-the-most-porn/#
Top 10 Countries That Watch The Most Porn
Here is a list of top 10 countries that stood above all in the race of watching porn online.
1. Pakistan
2. Egypt
3. Vietnam
4. Iran
5. Morocco
6. India
7. Saudi Arabia
8. Turkey
9. Philippines
10. Poland
And here’s Wiki Islam:
“Muslim Statistics (Pornography)”
https://wikiislam.net/wiki/Muslim_Statistics_-_Pornography
They got their statistics not from the US military, but from simple hits on Google, which has no political ax to grind.
Moreover, as you can see here, Muslim porn searches tend to be particularly disturbing, including large amounts of rape, pedophilia, and bestiality.
The fact is that an obsession with sex–especially with violent and coercive sex–is not un-Islamic at all. In fact, along with murder, there is *nothing* so Islamic as this.
billybob says
Ok – I accept what you are saying. Just that there is so much deliberate disinformation out there that I may tend to err on the skeptical side more often then on the other.
gravenimage says
Thanks, billybob.
One small point: authorities saying that Jihadist’s computers were “filled up to 80 per cent” with porn may not mean 80% of the computer’s capacity, but just 80% of the material on the computer. Still a pretty shocking figure.
garegin says
“A note to the piously covered: the high today in Iraq is 107 degrees, compared with 114 later in the week. In Saudi Arabia, it’s 106, but 111 later this week.”
As if the reason people dress sluty is because of the heat. I’ve seen Christian apologists make arguments against Islamic dressing, but it ultimately backfires on them. If they believed that outer looks don’t matter and modesty is in their heart, then they would be dressing like they do at home.
Once one accepts that modesty matters than it’s just a matter of degree.
I don’t think that people should torture themselves under the heat. I just think that the whole argument that heavy clothing=misogyny argument is weak. Because it’s not like people who doll up are more pro-feminist. If anything, it’s usually the opposite. Misogynists don’t want women to be unsexy, so people can’t really say that they HATE women and want to cover them up.
People who hate women read Maxim and have bikini carwash as their wallpaper. Then they talk about how women get everything from a divorce. They DON’T go around putting women in garbage bags.
Westman says
“I just think that the whole argument that heavy clothing=misogyny argument is weak.”
Really? When it’s black? Did you have difficulty in Physics? Try this: put on a black garbage bag and stand in the sun. Garbage bags absorb even less than cloth because of the reflective (glossy) finish.
You’re right, fundamentalists don’t hate women, they just think they are property of questionable, minimal, value. The slave women were selling for less than a rifle. Divorce only requires repudiation of the woman. A Muslima recently was killed by her father because she refused to wear a hijab. The treatment is so poor it might as well have misogyny at it’s core. I would call it Islamic Institutional Simulated Misogyny.
The core problem is not unclad women – it is men with no inclination to take control of themselves. There was someone who established the gold standard for men who said, “That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.” The onus is on the man to control thoughts and action. “Unto the pure all things are pure.”
garegin says
Even Christ knew that that’s just not the way people are built. People respond to visual stimuli. I don’t think he was advocating the position of Adamites. He was simply saying that the threshold for adultury is lust, not just sex acts.
gravenimage says
garegin wrote:
“A note to the piously covered: the high today in Iraq is 107 degrees, compared with 114 later in the week. In Saudi Arabia, it’s 106, but 111 later this week.”
As if the reason people dress sluty (sic) is because of the heat.
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So anything less than being immured in a Burqa is ‘dressing sluty’?
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I’ve seen Christian apologists make arguments against Islamic dressing, but it ultimately backfires on them. If they believed that outer looks don’t matter and modesty is in their heart, then they would be dressing like they do at home.
Once one accepts that modesty matters than it’s just a matter of degree.
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The idea that Muslim veiling is about “modesty” is ludicrous.
Here’s Qur’an 33:59:
“O Prophet! Tell thy wives and daughters, and the believing women, that they should cast their outer garments over their persons when abroad: that is most convenient, that they should be known and not molested. And Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.”
The key point here is *not molested*. If women do not veil, they are fair game for rape by Muslim males. How “modest” is that?
We have seen this in action in Europe, where Muslim men believe that any unveiled woman can be raped.
In fact, Infidel sex slaves are not just forbidden from veiling, but can be forced to appear naked from the waist up.
In other words, what a Hijab is really saying is not “I’m modest”, but “don’t rape me”. Further, it is not just saying “don’t rape me”, but “rape that unveiled slut over there”.
How “modest” is *that*?
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I don’t think that people should torture themselves under the heat. I just think that the whole argument that heavy clothing=misogyny argument is weak. Because it’s not like people who doll up are more pro-feminist. If anything, it’s usually the opposite. Misogynists don’t want women to be unsexy, so people can’t really say that they HATE women and want to cover them up.
People who hate women read Maxim and have bikini carwash as their wallpaper. Then they talk about how women get everything from a divorce. They DON’T go around putting women in garbage bags.
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So you don’t believe that Islam is misogynistic–that forcing women to wear Burqas doesn’t exhibit a hatred of women?
Is reading Maxxim *really* more misogynistic than FGM, child marriage, forced marriage, polygamy, rape, sex slavery, wife beating, “Honor Killing”, and stoning women to death?
Jay Boo says
Allah was a MO – HO and MO’s revelation generator.
Edward says
Barbarian Mohammad as a warlord found the perfect recruitment bait as a tool….free sex to motivate the horny Arabic Bedouins to do what he wanted to accomplish….to organize a gang of thugs to help dominate other lands. His mandates required a form of organization, welcome the quran!
He desecrated the Holy Scriptures by profaning the creation account as written in Genesis. Creation by God’s Word as the bible tells us; to Mohammad’s concocted version of the creation account…..by physical copulation!
http://muslimmatters.org/2012/02/03/the-creation-of-man-as-mentioned-in-the-quran/
mortimer says
Sex in Islam appears mostly to be forced sex. Multiple wives are not free to say no. Sex slaves certainly may not say no. Rape shows the greatest hatred of women.
In the Islamic paradise, created non-human sex slaves never say no and never express an opinion contrary to the master’s.
The whole purpose of Islam appears to kill dirty disbelievers so that Allah may reward Muslim males with sex slaves.
The purpose of Islam is seen to be ENTIRELY IMMORAL from this point of view. Murder is immoral. Slavery is immoral. Rape is immoral.
gravenimage says
Entirely true, Mortimer.
Keith Jordan says
I wish I could figure out what “w*****s” means!
dadcito says
wankers
Richard Paulsen says
2000 migrants, 92% muslim males, to an Island in Sweden called Ivö (Iv-island). Population 137.
The future EU and governments in Europe is planning for Europe.
http://www.svt.se/nyheter/lokalt/skane/vill-oppna-boende-for-2000-asylsokande-pa-ivon
gravenimage says
Here’s the appalling story in English:
“Small Island, Population 137, To Get 2,000-Migrant Asylum Centre”
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/07/14/small-island-population-137-get-2000-migrant-asylum-centre/
Another bit of further irony? The name of the town on the island is Kristianstad, which means “Christian town”. Not anymore, it won’t be…
G P says
Hardly a surprise from the so-called best of people. What else can you expect from a penis-obsessed belief system that hates women?
|’m sure they derive no more satisfaction copulating with a woman than they would with a warmed-up, carved out watermelon. The motive is not sex or desire, just a drive to hurt anyone who can’t fight back and the adherents act with impunity.
duh swami says
If Mahound had a computer and an internet connection, what would his computer be filled with? Porn is the lonely mans best friend…Jihadists probably
see pro as training films, so they will know what to do if they capture a sex slave…
Mong says
Porn is perfectly healthy unless you come from a culture that insists it’s not. In this case it becomes something dark, but really what on earth could be wrong with sex? Filmed or not, it’s natural. I’d be worried about any culture that seems sex to be wrong in some way. Let’s drive our selves into the welcome ares with joy and knowledge xxx
duh swami says
Once as an experiment,, I watched 10 hours a day for 6 days, sleazy LA porn.
As gar as I know it had no effect on me, on me, on me, on me…..on me…
gravenimage says
Mong wrote:
but really what on earth could be wrong with sex? Filmed or not, it’s natural.
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It depends, Mong. Certainly, consensual sex is one of the most beautiful of things–it is often an expression of tenderness and love. It can be a key aspect of a healthy life.
But sex *does* have a darker side, when misused–it can include pedophilia, rape, and bestiality; all sorts of obsession and cruelty.
commonsense says
Flynn: “Intelligence gathering and the closing down of the fanatics’ communications channels is the way to beat them.”
.Uh…how about killing them?
Edward says
Indiscreet as the jihads are one would suspect when involved with sex acts they will most likely have many exposures to multiple STD’S. Considering that the jihads in their quests to conquer lands find the illicit sex the pinnacle of their conquests of womanhood, especially a captive victim. Gang raping is the jihads choice as a form of mental torment or physical torture to their victim(s).
BTW, any web info requested on the jihads STD’S status results in the deflection of the basic question: 0
If you ask about muslim women STD’S problems the results are more telling!
gravenimage says
Here’s one story, Edward:
“Report: ISIS Orders 16 HIV Positive Jihadists to Become Suicide Bombers”
http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2015/09/09/report-isis-orders-16-hiv-positive-jihadists-to-become-suicide-bombers/