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Malaysian Islamic leader: “Islam…ironically, is a peace-loving religion”

Jul 21, 2016 3:26 pm By Robert Spencer

Irony of ironies!

Ruslan Said says that the Islamic State is un-Islamic, but, at least in this report, gave no details, and did not explain how this misunderstanding of Islam spread throughout the world. He doesn’t explain how the Islamic State is un-Islamic — is it the beheadings? No, that’s in the Qur’an (8:12, 47:4). Is it the sex slaves? No, that’s in the Qur’an (4:3, 4:24, 23:1-6, 33:50, 70:30). Is it the demand that Christians submit to Islamic rule and pay a special tax? No, that’s in the Qur’an (9:29).

And so, as we have seen so very many times before, someone who asserts that the Islamic State is un-Islamic doesn’t bother to answer the all-important question of how exactly the Islamic State is un-Islamic.

Said also said that “Malaysians who were involved in Daesh militant activity were doing it out of courtesy and sympathy after seeing the suffering by other Muslims abroad.”

Courtesy and sympathy led them to rape, murder, and terrorize. Interesting.

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“Islamic State jihad not true jihad, says Jakim,” Bernama, July 21, 2016:

The jihad ideology bandied about by the Islamic State militant group or Daesh is not the true jihad as it contravenes the true teachings of Islam.

The Malaysian Islamic Development Department (Jakim) deputy director-general Ruslan Said said this was because Islam does not promote militant activities as practised by Daesh.

“Daesh militants are doing useless things and they won’t die as ‘syahid’ (Muslim martyr) as they want to.

“Their ideology deviates from the belief of Islam, which ironically, is a peace-loving religion,” he said in his speech at the special conference on ‘Daesh Threats Rooting in Malaysia’ in Kuala Lumpur today.

The conference was aimed at giving a comprehensive insight on the seriousness of Daesh threats, especially to the younger generation as they had been an easy target for recruitment.

Roslan [sic] said Malaysians who were involved in Daesh militant activity were doing it out of courtesy and sympathy after seeing the suffering by other Muslims abroad.

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Filed Under: Featured, Islamic State (aka ISIS, ISIL, Daesh), Malaysia Tagged With: Malaysian Islamic Development Department (Jakim), Ruslan Said


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  1. ICH says

    Jul 21, 2016 at 3:29 pm

    how can they be so blind
    it blows my mind

    • Ralph P says

      Jul 21, 2016 at 4:09 pm

      They aren’t blind, just practicing Islam by lying and keeping infidels in the dark about Islam’s true objectives. Taquiya, pure and simple.

    • Angemon says

      Jul 21, 2016 at 4:31 pm

      Blind? The man is lying through his teeth.

  2. Peter Buckley says

    Jul 21, 2016 at 3:58 pm

    Sunni Islam’s largest institute of theology, Al Azhar University, is unable to denounce IS as “Unislamic”

    FACT:

    http://www.raymondibrahim.com/2015/12/03/al-azhar-cannot-denounce-isis-of-being-un-islamic-even-if-isis-commits-every-atrocity/

  3. Champ says

    Jul 21, 2016 at 4:19 pm

    I’ll be brief …

    Said is a L I A R.

    • Jaladhi says

      Jul 21, 2016 at 4:44 pm

      Champ, that goes without saying – he is a Muslim aka liar!!

      • Champ says

        Jul 21, 2016 at 4:51 pm

        Indeed, Jaladhi! …but it felt good to state the obvious 😀

  4. Jaladhi says

    Jul 21, 2016 at 4:43 pm

    What is ironic is the statement by these “moderate” Malaysian Muslims that Islam is a peace-loving religion. which Quran are they reading – maybe only the Meccan verses while ignoring the Medina verses. Don’t they know it is blasphemy to ignore half of the Quran. These morons are so stupid that it is beyond “belief”. According to Mo/allah they will all burn in hell!! LOL…. Ah,.. I get it now they are not stupid, they think we are to believe them!!

  5. Myrtle Linder says

    Jul 21, 2016 at 4:43 pm

    If Islam is a peaceful religion it should get rid of all of the millions who claim to be Muslim, that are filled with hatred and their favorite topic is cutting off the heads of all who do not believe as we believe! These fools make you look like “a religion of hatred!”

  6. Jack Diamond says

    Jul 21, 2016 at 5:06 pm

    It is only and ever un-Islamic because it kills other Muslims. Never because it kills the infidel. Except killing “hypocrite” Muslims is essential Islam, just like the first Abu Bakr killed hypocrite Muslims, so does the most recent Abu Bakr. Did he pronounce takfir on Daesh or not?

  7. No Fear says

    Jul 21, 2016 at 5:13 pm

    At what point did Islam become peaceful? Did it become peaceful after Mohammed beheaded the hundreds of Jews of the Banu Qurayza tribe? Did it become peaceful after Mohammed ordered his henchmen to torture a man with fire so he would reveal the hiding place of gold? Did it become peaceful after Mohammed’s henchmen raided Jewish trading caravans and killed people? Did it become peaceful after Mohammed ordered the death of woman poet Asma bint Marwan?

  8. Richard says

    Jul 21, 2016 at 5:57 pm

    The “No true Muslim” fallacy, No “true Muslim” would ever do blah, blah, blah, so ISIS are not “true Muslims”.

    What grounds does he have for denying the ISIS or Al Qaida or other “terrorist” Muslims their claim to being true Muslims? They do not take one step, or one action, without explaining it in terms of the Quran or the Hadiths.

  9. Champ says

    Jul 21, 2016 at 6:04 pm

    Lying is allah approved …

    • gravenimage says

      Jul 22, 2016 at 12:26 am

      Thanks for posting that, Champ. David Wood is always excellent.

  10. Infidel from Down Under says

    Jul 21, 2016 at 7:11 pm

    How many times do we have to hear this Islam is a peaceful religion crap

    • umbra says

      Jul 22, 2016 at 8:46 am

      Supposedly until all infidels have been enslaved or wiped out, … or when islam is eradicated.

  11. vlparker says

    Jul 21, 2016 at 7:59 pm

    I guess Mohammad didn’t get the memo.

  12. Angemon says

    Jul 21, 2016 at 8:10 pm

    The jihad ideology bandied about by the Islamic State militant group or Daesh is not the true jihad as it contravenes the true teachings of Islam.

    So who is a true muslim?

  13. Cecilia Ellis says

    Jul 21, 2016 at 8:30 pm

    Ange, just when I thought it was safe to hold my iPad in one hand and a full cup of coffee in the other while watching the videos you post . . . ?

  14. grace says

    Jul 21, 2016 at 9:23 pm

    I was in KL recently. In twenty years Malaysia has gone from a relaxed, friendly place, islamic yes, but wearing normal mostly western or traditional dress into little Arabia.
    Not only had middle eastern moslems moved in in droves, but the Malays now dress like them albeit with a bit more colour. KL has now become very austere.

    I was there a year ago and the increase in Arabification is shocking. It will be my last time to Malaysia. I think the non moslems will need to get out. I expect the Chinese and Indian population are already doing that. All the Malays are moslem and some of the Indians and Chinese are converting.

  15. mortimer says

    Jul 22, 2016 at 12:23 am

    The Salafite Wahhabism of ISIS has NOTHING to do the Salafite Wahhabism of Saudi Barbaria.

    Nothing at all…sure.

  16. gravenimage says

    Jul 22, 2016 at 12:23 am

    Malaysian Islamic leader: “Islam…ironically, is a peace-loving religion”
    …………………….

    Yes, saying this *is* pretty ironic, after all…

    And what could be more indicative of “courtesy and sympathy” than beheading aid workers and journalists, raping sex slaves, and crucifying children who snack on something during Ramadan? *Ugh*.

  17. mortimer says

    Jul 22, 2016 at 12:36 am

    Ruslan Said said “Malaysians who were involved in Daesh militant activity were doing it out of courtesy and sympathy after seeing the suffering by other Muslims abroad.”

    In other words, he’s uses the ‘tu quoque’ fallacy to justify genocide.

    Muslims have a deep love of genocide if it is ‘for the sake of Allah’.

    Islam is the only religion that venerates genocide.

  18. Ali Bey says

    Jul 22, 2016 at 1:35 am

    Barbarity followed by verbal barbarity

  19. خَليفة says

    Jul 22, 2016 at 2:01 am

    For every virtue Islam claims, it is ironic that so many Muslims ( and Islamic doctrine ) do/teach the opposite.

    For all its piousness, Islam is the most sexually perverse religion in the world. ( as long as you wash yourself before you pray you can have sex with pretty much anything, alive or dead, human or animal, male of female, young or old )

    For all its claim of “no compulsion in religion” they kill so many for not being Muslim.

    There is nothing good about Islam.

    The only good Muslim is an ex-Muslim

  20. Dacritic says

    Jul 22, 2016 at 3:01 am

    Well, the Islamic State is “unIslamic” because Islam supposedly didn’t teach anyone to kill anyone (Quran 5:32, er we might want to also read the next verse) and Islam supposedly taught Muslims not to transgress limits (2:190, again you might want to read the next verse). So if we do not read all the “next verses”…then yea I can see how the Islamic State is er…”unIslamic”.

    • duh swami says

      Jul 22, 2016 at 8:23 am

      Nearly everyone posting here has read Allah’s book…and many hadith,,,
      Who knows more about Islam, you or Avu BakrB?

      • Dacritic says

        Jul 28, 2016 at 2:37 am

        The Islamic State is utterly Islamic. That’s what I’m saying above.

  21. duh swami says

    Jul 22, 2016 at 8:33 am

    Peace? Real Islamic peace means no one left to kill…That slams shut the door to Jannah…No more celestial virgins for you Abdullah…Perpetual warfare is required to keep the door open…Now you know why the Islamic Ministry of Peace wages war…

  22. Peter says

    Jul 22, 2016 at 10:05 am

    Yeah, it is “peace-loving” alright, once its adherents have murdered you, enslaved your wife and daughters, indoctrinated your sons to hate and slaughter in the name of Allah, taken your property and destroyed your “system of belief.”

    In its own self-conception, Islam is a religion of peace (defined as where Islamic law is supreme and other systems of belief have been exterminated or subjugated), tolerance (non-Muslim monotheists are allowed to live and own property, but only if they submit to the systematic oppression, discrimination and persecution of Islamic law and the whims of Muslim rulers, clerics, and mobs), and just (treating non-Muslims as inferior, sub-humans, to by systematically reminded of their inferior status).

    If you’re a non-Muslim, Islam is not peaceful, tolerant, just, or, to use Obamalandspeak, “fair.” it is predatory.

  23. More Ham Ed says

    Jul 22, 2016 at 8:00 pm

    28856 deadly islamic terror attacks since 9/11.
    https://www.thereligionofpeace.com

  24. sidney penny says

    Jul 23, 2016 at 1:16 am

    Roslan [sic] said Malaysians who were involved in Daesh militant activity were doing it out of courtesy and sympathy after seeing the suffering by other Muslims abroad.

    If Roslan was talking about Syria and Iraq he would be talking about Muslim on Muslim violence.

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