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“Moderate” Muslim Canadian TV guest expert: Islamic State supported by West & America

Jul 19, 2016 5:14 am By Christine Douglass-Williams

The editor of CIJ News, Jonathan Halevi, states in his article below:

“Imam Syed Soharwardy of Calgary, the head of the Calgary-based Islamic Supreme Council of Canada and the founder of Muslims Against Terrorism, is often invited by CBC as a guest expert to discuss issues related to terrorism and radicalization. He is introduced as a moderate voice in the Muslim community who “has worked to prevent the radicalization of youth in Canada.”

In a “top story” on CBC, Soharwardy blamed the West and America for supporting the Islamic State. Disturbingly, he remains a prominent “moderate” spokesman for the Muslim community; he is regularly featured in the media and well known as the wonderful imam who delivered a fatwa against the Islamic State and its recruiting efforts in Canada. Yet his true colors show up in his anti-West, anti-Jew, pro-Sharia statements:

“Sharia cannot be customized for specific countries. These universal, divine laws are for all people of all countries for all times.”

“I am one of the founding members of the Islamic Institute of Civil Justice. The mandate of the institute is to resolve disputes within existing Canadian laws by using the principles of conflict resolution from Islamic Law, or sharia.”

“Presently, what Israeli forces are doing to Palestinians is worse than the Holocaust of World War II.”

Spokespersons (like Soharwardy) for mainstream Muslim organizations habitually tell lies about violent jihad not being part of Islam; these are routinely embraced without question. They also try to distance themselves from the Islamic State and promote the “blame the West” narrative while discounting the violence that is pervasive in Islamic states historically and in their founding. Leftists simply lap up their words and give them reprieve and a platform to continue their propaganda against the West and quest for global Sharia.

In a Huffington Post article, Muslim Canadian Munir Pervaiz states:

“North American Islamists have changed their tune and today try to conceal the true meaning of the word Jihad, insisting it has nothing to do with holy war, but is a ‘struggle’ against one’s ego. I wish that were true, but it isn’t.

To give the jihadis credit, unlike their Islamist backers, they speak the truth and are averse to doublespeak.”

Soharwardy has also stated his views about terrorism in detail on his Facebook page. As indicated in the article below, “he emphasizes that Islam and Muslims are not the cause for terrorist attacks in the name of Islam.”

Yet Soharwardy promotes the Sharia, and he knows full well that violent jihad is a practice that is considered an obligation and supremely holy, not just by the Islamic State, Al Qaeda, and overtly violent jihadist groups, but also by the Muslim Brotherhood, to which many mainstream Western Muslim organizations are linked. Hasan Al-Banna, who founded the Muslim Brotherhood, stated in his treatise about jihad:

All Muslims Must Make Jihad

Jihad is an obligation from Allah on every Muslim and cannot be ignored nor evaded. Allah has ascribed great importance to jihad and has made the reward of the martyrs and the fighters in His way a splendid one. Only those who have acted similarly and who have modeled themselves upon the martyrs in their performance of jihad can join them in this reward. Furthermore, Allah has specifically honoured the Mujahideen {those who wage jihad} with certain exceptional qualities, both spiritual and practical, to benefit them in this world and the next. Their pure blood is a symbol of victory in this world and the mark of success and felicity in the world to come.

iThe Muslim Association of Canada is viewed as moderate – like Imam Soharwardy — and is highly regarded as a dialogue-friendly organization; it has community centers and mosques across Canada, yet it openly declares its roots to the Muslim Brotherhood on its website, on which Al-Banna is praised.

MAC’s roots are deeply enshrined in the message of Prophet Mohammad. Its modern roots can be traced to the vigorous intellectual revivalist effort that took hold in Muslim societies starting in the early twentieth century. This revival aimed at reconciling faith with the challenges of modernity and providing a clear articulation of balance and moderation in understanding Islam. In the Arab world, this revival culminated in the writings of the late Imam Hassan al-Banna and the movement of the Society of Muslim Brothers (commonly known as the Muslim Brotherhood). Al-Banna’s core messages of constructive engagement in society, focus on personal and communal empowerment, and organizational development had a deep impact on much of the Muslim world.

The MAC holds its annual conference with the unindicted co-conspirator known as the Islamic Circle of North America. The Winnipeg Free Press did an expose on the “terrorists in our midst”.

When will Western mass media and authorities wake up and realize that stealth jihadists run rings around the West and are well advanced toward achieving their goal of civilizational jihad?

Syed-Soharwardy-Photo-screenshot-YouTube-CBC

“CBC guest expert: ISIS is funded and supported by the US and the West”, by Jonathan Halevi, CiJ News, July 17, 2016:

Imam Syed Soharwardy of Calgary, the head of the Calgary-based Islamic Supreme Council of Canada and the founder of Muslims Against Terrorism, is often invited by CBC as a guest expert to discuss issues related to terrorism and radicalization. He is introduced as a moderate voice in the Muslim community who “has worked to prevent the radicalization of youth in Canada.”

On his Facebook page, Soharwardy elaborates in detail his views on terrorism. He emphasizes that Islam and Muslims are not the cause for terrorist attacks in the name of Islam. The culprits, according to Soharwardy, are the Salafis, the Wahabis and the Deobandis. He also went on to say that “DAESH (ISIS), Al Qaeda, Taliban, Al Shabab, Al Nusra, Lashkar Taiba, Lashkar Jhangwi, etc.. are all followers of Wahabi beliefs” and all are not Muslims.”

Soharwardy accuses the Saudi Wahabi regime, the United States and West of funding and supporting the Wahabi / Salafi movements including ISIS. The following are excerpts from Soharwardy’s postings on Facebook:

December 8, 2015 [archive] – “The root cause of terrorism in the name of Islam is not Islam OR Muslims. Its Wahabism supported, funded and trained by the western governments… The reason is that the governments want to protect Wahabism and support it in the background in order to use Wahabi terrorism to blame Islam and Muslims. Anti-Islam and anti-Muslim propaganda is highly saleable in the west.”

November 24, 2015 [archive] – “ISIS is Wahabi not Muslim… Islam is all about peace and coexistence with other religions and communities while Wahabism is all about violence and domination… Find the source of arson and the arsonist. The source is CIA, etc.. and the arsonist is a “Fanatic” Wahabi (not all Wahabis).”

November 22, 2015 [archive] – “This is the truth that there are few Muslims who follow Wahabi / Salafi beliefs are getting money, training, weapons and support from the Western agencies and they are carrying out terrorism in the world.”

February 6, 2015 [archive] – “Stop linking Muslims and Islam with terrorism. There is no such thing as ”Islamic terrorism”, “Muslim terrorist”, “Jihadist”, “Islamist”. Stop using Islamic terminology for terrorists’ actions. Terrorist organizations like Taliban, ISIS, etc. were initiated, funded, supported by the United States, Saudi Arabia and other western countries to fight for them against the Soviet Union and Bashar Al Asad…..

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  1. T Ross says

    Jul 19, 2016 at 6:17 am

    Well, I regret to say that I also began to believe in EU and USA supporting ISIS. How is it possible that islamist from all Europe, known to police, freely leave for Syria and after chopping a couple of heads off there return – not to be punished as bloody murderers, but to pass “deradicalization courses” or whatever they call them. How is it possible not to detect and cut the financial flows or rather “rivers” needed to feed and pay 60 000 fighters and to maintain undercover presence all over the globe?

    • salim says

      Jul 19, 2016 at 1:29 pm

      In a way I also started to believe in some kind of mystery behind isis and all the islamic organisations. As has been pointed, the West has been openly supportive to the Muslim Brotherhood since the 1950s and the mujahideen in the 1980s. The West and Muslims organisations have never been on bad terms, even after 9/11.

      Isis members must be well paid, trained and equipped which is very costly, and that was even before the oil trade. Isis members often move freely from Europe to Syria and back to Europe without much trouble. Religious Muslims are invited and encouraged in the West and often given an advantage compared to non practicing Muslims. European governments do not seem to see much trouble with isis members but too much trouble with people like Robert Spencer, who oppose isis.

      The fact that isis still exist and still powerful can only mean that no real measures have been taken to eradicate it. This is beyond understanding just as the unusual tolerance of the west towards islamic terrorism.

      • gravenimage says

        Jul 19, 2016 at 6:40 pm

        Uh huh–all of this has nothing to do with Islam, but just with the “perfidious West”…sarc/off

  2. Kepha says

    Jul 19, 2016 at 6:29 am

    There is a grain of truth in the imam’s assertion that the West and the USA supported ISIS/Da’esh/Whatchamacallit. Many of us here bemoaned the O [mal-]administration’s meddling in the Syrian civil war, and rightly noted that it played into the hands of at least ISIS and Qaida affiliates.

    However, this did not stem from the O’s or Shrill’s infatuation with extreme Sunnite doctrine, but from the Western Left’s long-standing worship of “Revolution”. Rebels against a nasty regime (and the Assad regime counts as such) are ipso facto “good guys” in such a worldview.

    • Christianblood says

      Jul 19, 2016 at 7:58 am

      Kepha

      Let us be honest here: USA backed the Taliban and Al-qaeda jihadists in Afghanistan three decades ago, it backed the Kosovo and Bosnia jihadists two decades ago and even bombed the Serbian Christian fighters forming two islamic countries (Bosnia & Kosovo) in the process. A few years back USA backed the Libyan jihadists that over threw the Qaddafi regime installing various waring jihadist groups in that country and now for the five past years USA tried very hard to over throw the secular regime of Syria led by Assad funneling arms, tens of thousands of jihadists, money and training to the Syrian jihadists using its allies such as Turkey and Saudi Arabia as cover and the whole world knows this. Even the newly elected president of the Philippine, a US ally spoke about this openly a few days ago when he said. this. Click below to see his words:

      http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/ap/article-3680797/Philippine-president-blames-US-UK-Middle-East-violence.html

      The best thing to do is to admit it and try to change this from happening again but unfortunately the US electorate are either supporting this or they really don’t care or don’t even know and its really frustrating to see this go on year after year and it may eventually lead to a catastrophic war that destroys this planet! That is why president of Russia, furiously Called Out The West On The Danger Of World War III recently: Please watch his words below:

      • billybob says

        Jul 19, 2016 at 4:22 pm

        How ’bout both USA and Putin are right at the same time? There is no doubt about the Iranian missile threat. Putin should know, because he sold advanced missiles to Iran, and besides that Iran keeps on testing their own long range missiles so they will be prepared to deliver nuclear warheads when they are ready. Meanwhile, NATO missiles stationed in Europe should dampen Putin’s enthusiasm for expansionism; his desire to reconstitute the Soviet Union. Fck Putin!

        • Christianblood says

          Jul 19, 2016 at 5:55 pm

          billybob

          President Putin cannot do and do not want to ‘reconstitute’ the soviet union. That is impossible and nobody wants it. President Putin wants to defend Russia’s unique geopolitical interests and the US and Nato, especially, the US don’t want that. They want a weak, powerless Russia that depends on the West, a Russia that is on its knees like Yeltsin’s days, a Russia that eventually becomes another US vassal and that will never happen! Please see this must-watch talk by the foremost American scholar on Russian affairs, Prof. Stephen Cohen as he discusses this with Larry King:

        • Angemon says

          Jul 20, 2016 at 12:31 pm

          Christianblood posted:

          “President Putin cannot do and do not want to ‘reconstitute’ the soviet union. ”

          Ah, so you’re Putin’s spokesperson now? You know, the same Putin who called the fall of the Soviet Union “the greatest tragedy of the 20th century”?

          “President Putin wants to defend Russia’s unique geopolitical interests and the US and Nato, especially, the US don’t want that. They want a weak, powerless Russia that depends on the West, a Russia that is on its knees like Yeltsin’s days, a Russia that eventually becomes another US vassal”

          Citations needed.

          “ Please see this must-watch talk by the foremost American scholar on Russian affairs”

          According to whom?

      • gravenimage says

        Jul 19, 2016 at 7:37 pm

        More of the usual from that nasty “Christianblood” that Jihad has nothing to do with Islam, but is just perpetrated by the West.

        More:

        That is why president of Russia, furiously Called Out The West On The Danger Of World War III recently: Please watch his words below
        ………………………

        Doesn’t “Christianblood” realize what Putin is doing here? He is not just making light of the the threats from the Islamic Republic of Iran; he is claiming that they don’t exist at all. Instead, his only concern is excoriating the West.

        But Iran *is* threatening the world:

        “Iran: ‘We will raze the Zionist regime in less than eight minutes’”

        https://www.jihadwatch.org/2016/05/iran-we-will-raze-the-zionist-regime-in-less-than-eight-minutes

        I have often noted that it seems that “Christianblood” doesn’t really care about Islamic savagery, but just hates the free West–he has clearly confirmed that here.

        • Christianblood says

          Jul 19, 2016 at 8:48 pm

          gravenimage

          You are ignorant, very close-minded and deeply biased! Have you ever asked yourself as to why US war planes, missiles and soldiers are doing at the Russian borders which are thousands of miles away from the US mainland? Do you even have the mental capacity to rationalize and think about those issues? What do you think will happen if Russia brings its nukes at the border between Mexico and the US? Please, watch prof. Stephen Cohen’s talk I provided above and understand the situation between Russia and the US-led Nato. You can’t hear this kind of talk from the biased Western MSM media such as the CNN, or FoxNews or the BCC etc.

        • Angemon says

          Jul 20, 2016 at 12:41 pm

          Christianblood posted:

          “gravenimage

          You are ignorant, very close-minded and deeply biased! Have you ever asked yourself as to why US war planes, missiles and soldiers are doing at the Russian borders which are thousands of miles away from the US mainland? ”

          How about we ask the countries where they are stationed in? Don’t they have any sort of saying on whether or not American citizens are allowed in their borders? The USSR was dismantled long ago, comrade – you lost. Badly. You have no saying about what goes on in former Soviet provinces who are now nations of their own. Deal with it.

          “Do you even have the mental capacity to rationalize and think about those issues?”

          GI certainly has. You? No.

          “What do you think will happen if Russia brings its nukes at the border between Mexico and the US? ”

          *yawn*

          Again with that false equivalence? Who is bringing nukes to what border?

          “You can’t hear this kind of talk from the biased Western MSM media such as the CNN, or FoxNews or the BCC etc.”

          “Biased media”, eh? How often are critics of Putin or Russia allowed on RT or Sputniknews, two of the Russian government’s propaganda outlets that you frequently use to back your claims?

        • Christianblood says

          Jul 19, 2016 at 9:02 pm

          gravenimage posted

          (..More of the usual from that nasty “Christianblood” that Jihad has nothing to do with Islam..)

          That is an outright LIE because I never said such a thing!!! When did I say such a thing? I have never said in any thread that “Jihad has nothing to islam”. Never!

          I do criticize America and West for their open and constant support of islamic jihadists, for their stupid and dangerous “regime policies”, for their biased hatred and disrespect for Christianity and for their deep love and respect for islam and muslims and like the Pharisees of the old, you are pissed off by my pointing out of those facts and you are trying to make false accusations etc. Shame on you!

        • Angemon says

          Jul 20, 2016 at 12:46 pm

          Christianblood posted:

          “I do criticize America and West for their open and constant support of islamic jihadists, for their stupid and dangerous “regime policies”, for their biased hatred and disrespect for Christianity and for their deep love and respect for islam and muslims and like the Pharisees of the old, you are pissed off by my pointing out of those facts and you are trying to make false accusations etc. Shame on you!”

          No, you *lie* about the West in general. You parrot Putin’s propaganda as if it were facts. There’s exactly zero posts of yours showing that your whole goal here is to spread misinformation, belittle the West and prop up Russia. Hence why you defend jihadi genocidal, suicidal Iran and Russian support of it – apparently, supporting jihadis is not a bad thing when Russia is doing it, only when you can claim the West does it.

        • Western Canadian says

          Jul 19, 2016 at 9:15 pm

          Unchristiancrap, you are a very ignorant, very vicious paid russian troll. You are incapable or telling the truth on any subject, and are as much a disgrace to the human race, as are the jihadi vermin. You come here to gloat over the success of the russian stealth jihad against the west, where our churches, schools, media, political parties and system, were all undermined by vermin in the kgb and their fellow travelers, useful idiots and run of the mill idiots in the west. The state of the west, and the blood spilled by the kgb etc. is on the hands of gutter crawlers like you…. I look forward to the day that you pay for your criminality, and pay very, very dearly.

        • Angemon says

          Jul 20, 2016 at 12:36 pm

          gravenimage posted:

          “Doesn’t “Christianblood” realize what Putin is doing here? He is not just making light of the the threats from the Islamic Republic of Iran; he is claiming that they don’t exist at all. Instead, his only concern is excoriating the West.

          (…)

          I have often noted that it seems that “Christianblood” doesn’t really care about Islamic savagery, but just hates the free West–he has clearly confirmed that here.”

          CB’s actions make perfect sense if one thinks of him as a disinformation agent – he’s not here to engage in discussion, just to spout feverish, inflammatory anti-Western propaganda.

        • Ex-muslim says

          Jul 20, 2016 at 1:25 pm

          Christianblood says

          “You are ignorant, very close-minded and deeply biased! Have you ever asked yourself as to why US war planes, missiles and soldiers are doing at the Russian borders which are thousands of miles away from the US mainland? Do you even have the mental capacity to rationalize and think about those issues? What do you think will happen if Russia brings its nukes at the border between Mexico and the US?”

          Exactly, CB! They are SOOOOO dump that their brains have the maximum capacity of five year old child and that is why they are playing with fire.

        • Angemon says

          Jul 20, 2016 at 3:06 pm

          Ex-muslim posted:

          “Exactly, CB! They are SOOOOO dump that their brains have the maximum capacity of five year old child and that is why they are playing with fire.”

          “SOOOOO dump” indeed… 😛

          Anyway:

          https://www.jihadwatch.org/2016/07/mali-jihadis-attack-army-base-murder-17-soldiers-wound-35/comment-page-1#comment-1483809

          Look at the timestamps and content – is there any doubt that “Ex-muslim” is here simply to play backup for “Christianblood”?

      • BC says

        Jul 20, 2016 at 5:48 am

        Your ‘arguments’ (I flatter) are very skewed and specious. The help to the Taliban was during the cold war, a different period nobody could foresee that they would attemptto take over the whole country after the USSR withdrew. people forget also that Afghanistan was in the middle of civil war when the coalition arrived there. Hindsight is always 20/20

      • RonaldB says

        Jul 20, 2016 at 9:34 am

        christianblood,

        Those are two excellent videos to which you gave us the links.

        I think Stephen Cohen makes a lot of sense concerning Russia, although I don’t know if his association with the leftist Nation makes any sense. But, be that as it may:

        I don’t see any reason for the US to be supporting sides or change of governments in the Ukraine. As Cohen says, this is a territory of vital Russian interests. It is complete folly for the US to be supporting military actions in the Ukraine and to be taking nations on the Russian border into NATO. Any miscalculation or unplanned escalation will have a palpable chance of going nuclear. The US, by the way, has no civil defense capability whatsoever.

        The neo-cons like McCain and Kristol are determined to drag the US into foreign adventures peripheral to real US interests, but involving the potential for a totally ruinous nuclear war.

        The question of Iran, though, is central to US and Middle Eastern security. I don’t know if Putin sees Iran as being insignificant because he sees vital Russian interests as being more threatened by the Ukrainian adventures and by the nuclear-armed missiles being deployed directly on Russian borders. But, as detailed in Spencer’s new book on Iran, Iran is positioning itself aggressively on the northern and southern borders of Israel with thousands of rockets and hostile armies. Syria is a firm ally of Iran’s which could be depended upon to attack Israel if Israel showed any weakness. So, it is understandable if Israel shows some support for ISIS and the anti-Assad rebels, just out of self-preservation.

        I don’t know if Putin would be more flexible concerning Iran if he didn’t see the vital interests of Russia being threatened.

        I do think the US should not be in the business of supporting either the anti-Assad rebels, ISIS, or the Syrian government. If Israel chooses to act, as its vital interests are totally involved, so be it. But, the US has always been a blunderbuss in such affairs and does best by staying out of the picture. I was very upset to hear Christie last night attribute all the Syrian deaths to the Assad government, making me super-happy Christie did not get the presidential or vice-presidential nomination. Christie, for his good points, is thoroughly neo-con as far as foreign affairs.

        The question of Iranian nuclear weapons is totally different from Iranian alliances. The US might legitimately decide keeping Iran non-nuclear is a vital interest. As Cohen points out, the best route to this objective might be to stop threatening Russian vital interests and try to engage Russia in support to keep Iran non-nuclear. It’s hardly conceivable that Russia would be sanguine about Iran’s possession of nuclear weapons, all things being equal, as Iran is on the Russian border.

        • Christianblood says

          Jul 20, 2016 at 6:55 pm

          RonaldB

          Thanks for your great and balanced comment above. Thanks for watching Prof. Cohen’s talk above. As the Prof. said, Putin was really looking forward to work with America in all areas and he was ready for that but President Bush had other priorities. For the past few years, Western leaders kept bushing Russia to the wall, spreading propaganda and misinformation about Russia and constantly demonizing its leaders, especially President Putin and it was actually the West who pushed President Putin into the hands of Iranians.

          I agree with you RonalB that the Iranian regime is a dangerous regime and I am sure President Putin knows this but at the moment he can do very little about it while the US, the West are not only demonizing him and his country but are amassing troops and armament at the Russia borders. The way the Russian people sees this, the Russians think that they are once again being pushed by the West to fight for their own existence as has happened a number of times in the past two hundred years! So how can President Putin do anything about Iran when he and the Russian people are genuinely feel threatened by the West?

          Also Putin knows that America hates Iran not only because the Iranian regime is islamic but because the Iranian regime would NOT bend to the American wishes and strategies and he knows America sees Iran as challenge for its hegemonic ambitions in the region.
          Remember RonaldB that the Shah was a close ally of the US but the US abandoned him in the last months of his reign and made a secret pact with Khomeini. Please read that on the BBC link below: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-36431160
          No doubt in my mind, that Putin and Russia are ready to work with the West when it comes to the Iranian question but this will NOT happen as long as the US and the West are demonizing Putin and Russia and as long as their trying, among other things, to overthrow the Syrian regime of Assad by force and replace him with their islamic jihadist terrorists that are allied with them.

        • Angemon says

          Jul 20, 2016 at 8:39 pm

          Christianblood posted:

          “For the past few years, Western leaders kept bushing Russia to the wall, spreading propaganda and misinformation about Russia and constantly demonizing its leaders, especially President Putin and it was actually the West who pushed President Putin into the hands of Iranians.”

          This is a complete reversal of the truth. Russia has been cranking up on anti-Western propaganda, especially after the invasion of Ukraine. Oh, and the claim that the West sent Putin to the hands of Iranians? Bulls***. One only needs to look at history to see how far back the cooperation between Russia and Iran goes. Also, please pick a story and stick with it – is Putin a strong leader or a poor sob that was driven into the hands of the big, bad Iranians by the even bigger, even badder West?

          “I agree with you RonalB that the Iranian regime is a dangerous regime”

          Speaking of reversals: how, then, do you account for your defence of Iran and shia islam?

          “Also Putin knows that America hates Iran not only because the Iranian regime is islamic”

          But you repeatedly accused the West, and especially the US, of hating Christians and loving muslims. Why, then, does America now hates Iran for being islamic? Why, it’s almost as you you’re making it up as you go along while you try to shape a story to each individual post…

          “but because the Iranian regime would NOT bend to the American wishes and strategies ”

          Citation needed.

          “and he knows America sees Iran as challenge for its hegemonic ambitions in the region.”

          Citation needed, Dr. Mind Reader.

          “No doubt in my mind, that Putin and Russia are ready to work with the West when it comes to the Iranian question”

          Perhaps in some sort of bizarro world – certainly not in out current day and age.

          “the US and the West are demonizing Putin and Russia”

          Like I said, this is a complete reversal of the truth.

          “and as long as their trying, among other things, to overthrow the Syrian regime of Assad by force”

          Perhaps you should let the National Coalition for Syrian Revolutionary and Opposition Forces know that’s the official US stance – their former president certainly had no qualms about accusing the US of not desiring a regime change in Syria and not supporting them in ousting Assad.

      • Angemon says

        Jul 20, 2016 at 12:18 pm

        Christianblood posted:

        “Even the newly elected president of the Philippine, a US ally spoke about this openly a few days ago when he said. this. ”

        And, as everyone knows, the President of the Philippines is an expert on Middle East Issues, right? RIGHT?A?A?A

        “hat is why president of Russia, furiously Called Out The West On The Danger Of World War III ”

        No, Putin lashes out against the West to keep his people in line with the threat of a foreign invasion.

  3. cs says

    Jul 19, 2016 at 7:06 am

    As I have said, the only way to destroy Islam is to make it visible, this whole thing makes it visible, if we let Islam by their own devices, it would progress slowly and would flowed us with their high demographic in a less perceptible manner. Provoking and empowering the worst of them, we can actually combat and finish this nightmare.
    In this scenario Obama and Hillary would be puppets masking their intentions…
    It also gives to the European and SJWs how ridiculous they are, supporting the worse kind of people, that has been my theory for more than an year now.
    But it would come also with the elimination with part of the population and the implementation of bigger States, that would facilitate a transition to the NWO, some people have said that long before me, and it is coming to truth, if you just realised how the young British are complaining about the Brexit, you just realise how this plan is actually working, and these young people don’t realise what is actually coming for them.

    • Jay Boo says

      Jul 19, 2016 at 9:08 am

      That commenter is not Jay Boo
      That is a HACK Job

  4. Jack Diamond says

    Jul 19, 2016 at 7:17 am

    Soharwardy will love this comment section.

  5. Angemon says

    Jul 19, 2016 at 7:37 am

    More from this islamic scumbag (but I repeat myself):

    https://www.jihadwatch.org/2015/03/islamic-supreme-council-of-canada-islamic-state-created-by-west

    https://www.jihadwatch.org/2016/04/canada-imam-says-no-difference-between-islamophobes-and-terrorists

    • Angemon says

      Jul 19, 2016 at 7:39 am

      Oh, and this “brave lion” of islam recently wormed his way out of a debate with Robert Spencer after boasting his availability to do so on Facebook:

      https://www.jihadwatch.org/2016/05/canada-imam-wants-to-debate-robert-spencer-but-only-before-groups-that-condemned-him

      I bet the bastard never thought RS would actually hear about his challenge or accept it…

      • Norger says

        Jul 19, 2016 at 8:06 am

        I was going to ask if this was THAT imam.

        • gravenimage says

          Jul 19, 2016 at 7:57 pm

          Thanks for the additional information, Angemon.

      • Indian Friend says

        Jul 19, 2016 at 10:33 am

        Robert Spencer should first accept that he is a coward & has no guts to condemn US govt for mass killings of muslims in middle east over the past years .

        • john spielman says

          Jul 19, 2016 at 11:22 am

          NONSENSE, there are “no mass killings” by the USA, BUT if your muslim buddies keep up with massacres in the West, the USA and the western nations could declare total WAR AGINST ISLAM (like in WW2) with carpet bombing / unrestricted air strikes and a massive ground invasion to destroy you and your ilk including mecca, the lair of this islamofascist beast, once and for all!

        • linnte says

          Jul 19, 2016 at 12:08 pm

          Turn Mecca to glass. It’s a wonderful thought!

        • gravenimage says

          Jul 19, 2016 at 8:52 pm

          The bizarrely named “Indian Friend” wrote:

          Robert Spencer should first accept that he is a coward & has no guts to condemn US govt for mass killings of muslims in middle east over the past years .
          ………………………..

          What rot. There has been no “mass killings of Muslims” by the US.

        • Angemon says

          Jul 20, 2016 at 12:43 pm

          Indian Friend posted:

          “Robert Spencer should first accept that he is a coward & has no guts to condemn US govt for mass killings of muslims in middle east over the past years .”

          What mass killing of muslims?

  6. Dom107 says

    Jul 19, 2016 at 7:44 am

    “Atheists propagate their “faith” often at the expense of others” What the hell does that mean.???
    Atheists by definition don’t have a “faith” Atheists or rationalists prefer to use their brains unlike those who are conned by primitive religions like Judaism,Christianity and Islam which originated in the Bronze age by Middle East desert tribes.Now I think our real knowledge as provided by scientific illumination has come a long way since then yet many who originate in the Middle East,Far East and Africa want to slaughter each other daily over invented myths and lies from antiquity.
    No wonder we haven’t been visited by intelligent extra terrestrials as there is too many dumb deists on this planet to make any kind of sensible conversation possible.That’s the impression they would get from this site anyway.There is of course great centers of learning in the USA and Europe but it is now in danger from immigration here of fossilized Bronze age brains bringing stupidity and violence on a daily basis like the hellholes they come from !!!

    • skep says

      Jul 19, 2016 at 8:40 am

      Well said Dom

      • Jay Boo says

        Jul 19, 2016 at 9:11 am

        That simplistic open ended comment along with the hate of the West is a forgery and not JAY BOO

        • gravenimage says

          Jul 19, 2016 at 8:57 pm

          Jay Boo, I *knew* that didn’t sound like you. Tell Marc Louis–JW tech guy–what is going on.

      • Western Canadian says

        Jul 19, 2016 at 9:50 pm

        He said a load of complete drivel and bigotry. You are very easily impressed. And with him, share a grand total of TWO brain cells.

    • Klaas says

      Jul 19, 2016 at 8:44 am

      Thanks Dom107. I wanted to say something similar but it is not necessary anymore

    • Western Canadian says

      Jul 19, 2016 at 9:48 pm

      What is it with low church atheists coming by this board, to post their ignorant/dishonest drivel?? The latest and most pathetic:

      “Dom107 says
      July 19, 2016 at 7:44 am

      “Atheists propagate their “faith” often at the expense of others” What the hell does that mean.???”

      It means that people like you LOVE to shove your ignorant beliefs down everyone else’s throats, usually while being very insulting while doing so. Clear enough for you?

      “Atheists by definition don’t have a “faith”””

      An utterly stupid comment, demonstrating your lack of understanding of both atheism, and faith. Your belief that there is no god, is an article of FAITH. How can you be so utterly moronic, to make your statement, beggers belief.

      ” Atheists or rationalists”

      Atheists are seldom rational (and yes, we have some who are on this board), and base their hatred of those who believe differently then themselves on extreme ignorance of just what the others do actually believe.

      ” prefer to use their brains unlike those who are conned by primitive religions like Judaism,Christianity and Islam which originated in the Bronze age by Middle East desert tribes.”

      Coming by to insult others, is NOT a display of much in the way of brains…. a comment that applies to your entire post. Your comment on the source of the 3 belief systems applies to islam, not the other two. You really are incredibly ignorant.

      “Now I think our real knowledge as provided by scientific illumination has come a long way since then yet many who originate in the Middle East,Far East and Africa want to slaughter each other daily over invented myths and lies from antiquity.”

      The greatest slaughter of human beings in a single century, was committed by you and those like you, who consider themselves just oh ho superior to others, that slaughtering them is a good thing… Atheist government murdered over 100,000,000 in a single century, something that islam took FIVE centuries to do. You are ignorant, and sickening.

      “No wonder we haven’t been visited by intelligent extra terrestrials as there is too many dumb deists on this planet to make any kind of sensible conversation possible.”

      And again, an incredible demonstration of just how much in the way of brain cells you happen to have: Two. Exactly two. And one is lost, with the other out looking to find it.

      “That’s the impression they would get from this site anyway.There is of course great centers of learning in the USA and Europe but it is now in danger from immigration here of fossilized Bronze age brains bringing stupidity and violence on a daily basis like the hellholes they come from !!!”

      Gee, you make islamic government sound JUST LIKE ATHEISTIC GOVERNMENT! Which, when it comes to vicious bigotry, hatred of all others, and mass murder, it is!

      • Klaas says

        Jul 20, 2016 at 8:44 am

        Wow. This looks like the typical incoherent rant one often finds on this site … by muslims. Perhaps this is also from a hacked account, but I will assume it is real and that you are a christian.

        What an excellent example of moral superiority. “utterly moronic”, “ignorant”, “two brains cells”, and you accuse others of insulting you. Jezus would be proud of you!

        “The greatest slaughter of human beings in a single century, was committed by you”? Well, most likely Dom107 had not even been born when Stalin and Mao committed their atrocities. This is worse than accusing an individual muslim of all muslim atrocities. It is worse, because, unlike all muslims, we atheists do not share a holy book with commands like “kill all believers wherever you find them”. Atheism is not believing in god, that’s all. The fact that Stalin was an atheist is as irrelevant as the fact that Hitler was a christian or a vegetarian. Not all atrocities can be attributed to a religion or the absence of a religion.

        But I am worried about you. You believe in god, but now how do you know which religion to choose? More than a billion muslims believe you went astray, and that you will burn eternally in hell. How do you know that they are wrong and you are right? What a disappointment that would be after going to church your entire life. But on the bright side: you will meet some nice atheists there to continue the argument.

      • RonaldB says

        Jul 20, 2016 at 10:03 am

        ” Your belief that there is no god, is an article of FAITH.”

        Good comment, westerncanadian. I’m an atheist who knows that you cannot prove a negative. Thus, the non-existence of god cannot be proven and is an article of faith. I happen to have that faith. I’m not an agnostic either, as I do not admit to the possibility of the existence of god in my faith.

        But, there’s nothing wrong in living by a faith, per se. I have no bone to pick with people that have a religious faith. It depends on the contents of the faith. For example, from the Regensburg lecture of Pope Benedict:

        “Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached”. The emperor, after having expressed himself so forcefully, goes on to explain in detail the reasons why spreading the faith through violence is something unreasonable. Violence is incompatible with the nature of God and the nature of the soul. “God”, he says, “is not pleased by blood — and not acting reasonably is contrary to God’s nature. Faith is born of the soul, not the body. Whoever would lead someone to faith needs the ability to speak well and to reason properly, without violence and threats… To convince a reasonable soul, one does not need a strong arm, or weapons of any kind, or any other means of threatening a person with death…

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regensburg_lecture

        The fact is, there have been mass murders by both atheist regimes and regimes claiming to be affiliated with a religion. So, the advocacy of either religion or non-religion is not a defining factor of the propensity of a regime for killing or oppression.

        I personally support the expression of traditional (non-Muslim) religions in American public life. However, I do not believe religions should be given any exemptions from the laws. The first amendment is very clear on that: No laws concerning the establishment of religion. That includes religious exemptions. An oppressive law should be repealed and not simply given enough exemptions that it is tolerated.

        Examples of religious exemptions are non-humane slaughter of animals, the granting of permission to not say the pledge in public institutions, exemption from military service and the like. I’m not hostile to religion, but my reading of the Constitution convinces me religion has to exist on its own resources and not hijack exemptions from the state.

  7. UriahB says

    Jul 19, 2016 at 8:02 am

    JAY BOO. YOU ARE DRINKING SOME KIND OF KOOL AID. AMERICANS CONSUME DRUGS? OK. WHERE DOES A VAST QUANTITY OF HEROIN COME FROM? AMERICANS TRAFFIC (NO ‘K’. LEARN TO SPELL. THO SOME DO SPELL IT THAT WAY) IN SLAVERY? TRUE WE ARE SLAVES TO PEOPLE WHO ARE ALLOWED TO BE IDIOTIC IN PUBLIC LIKE YOU. EVERY TYPE OF LIBERTINE SEXUAL…..NICELY SPELLED.

    ALAS WE DONT THROW THOSE WHOS VIEWS WE DISAGREE WITH OFF ROOFS. MEN CAN MARRY MEN? THATS NOT YOUR PROBLEM, THO YOUR VIEWS SEEM TO INDICATE YOU HAVE A PROBLEM IN THAT AREA, HMM? PORNOGRAPHY IS EVERYWHERE? CORRECT, AS WE FOUND OUT BY ACCESSING JIHADIST’S COMPUTERS. YOU LOSE. ATHEISTS PROPAGATE THEIR FAITH? OFTEN AT THE EXPENSE OF OTHERS? I AM TRYING, BUT THIS STATEMENT DOES NOT MAKE SENSE.

    DIVORCE RATES HIGH? I GUESS YOUR SOLUTION IS TO MAKE WIVES SLAVES. PROBLEM SOLVED
    WOMEN , MULTIPLE BABIES, MEN RESPONSIBLE? OK, SO YOU DONT AGREE THAT ITS THE PROVOCATIVE DRESS THAT IS THE CAUSE? THOUGHT THAT WAS THE CAUSE. I CANT BELIEVE IM WASTING MY TIME WITH THIS.

    HALF OF PUBLIC ON THE DOLE. AGREED THO I DONT THINK THE PERCENTAGE IS CORRECT. BY THE WAY, ARE YOU? KANYE WEST. WHAT THE HELL MAKES THIS YOUR PROBLEM?
    I CAN GO ON, BUT YOU ARE SO DEMENTED IN YOUR THINKING, YOU DONT HAVE A CLUE!

    I DO A AGREE WITH YOU. AMERICA IS A LAUGHING STOCK. BECAUSE OF PEOPLE LIKE YOU WHO HAVE NOTHING BETTER TO DO THAN COMPLAIN. IM ASSUMING YOU LIVE IN THE US. LEAVE! GOOD LUCK.

    • Jay Boo says

      Jul 19, 2016 at 9:24 am

      UriahB
      That imposter is not me
      I have been HACKED or my password hijacked
      Hopefully it is just a password issue which I have just changed.

      I should be flattered that those that bow to the lowest scumbag Serpent of Satan Muhammad dog or their groveling hate America lefties would feel me as such a threat. Instead they should look in the mirror and feel a deep sadness at their pathetic meaningless lives instead.

      • Lookmann says

        Jul 19, 2016 at 9:39 am

        @Jay Boo,

        Never again reveal your personal info., for whatever reason.

        IS scum is releasing ‘target’ lists frequently. You do not know what would happen.

        Take care.

        • Jay Boo says

          Jul 19, 2016 at 11:05 am

          Thanks
          I hope that they do not take me out, but ay least it is reassuring to know that even if they do, the undeniable truth that Islam is rotted at its core has already slipped out of the bag. Islam’s days are numbered. It is rotting from within and no matter how many people Muslims murder Islam will always turn on itself and Muslims as well.

    • gravenimage says

      Jul 19, 2016 at 9:01 pm

      Uriah, someone else was posing as Jay Boo.

  8. Christianblood says

    Jul 19, 2016 at 8:02 am

    Jay Boo posted

    (..I do not 100% agree with Muslim troll abbas but there are some ugly facts about USA ( west) polices , as I posted before here is what I think!!..)

    You are right (JB). There are a lot of facts in what he wrote .

    • Jay Boo says

      Jul 19, 2016 at 9:14 am

      Bull Shit

      That is a HACK job

      What a stupid way to begin a comment with such a timid qualifier as “I do not 100% agree “

      • Mirren10 says

        Jul 19, 2016 at 9:34 am

        ”islam is not 100% evil”.

      • DFD says

        Jul 19, 2016 at 9:48 am

        I think Robert Spencer should look into this.

        Perhaps linking/binding username and email address. Consider, if that can happen to Jay Boo, it can happen to all of us.

        If you agree, then cosign or email Robert, or both. If a taqyian can hijack and falsify our posts, we soon have a mess and bad blood running. Particularly if the forgerer/liar is more apt than the one doing the Hack job on Jay Boo.

        • RonaldB says

          Jul 20, 2016 at 10:07 am

          Hi DFD,

          As usual, I’m not always following at JihadWatch. Is there anything new on your drive?

        • DFD says

          Jul 20, 2016 at 10:48 am

          Hi Ronald,

          Thanks for asking, next few days….

      • Jay Boo says

        Jul 19, 2016 at 9:56 am

        TESTING!

        This is not from Jay Boo it’s from DFD
        =============================

        Just testing….

        • gravenimage says

          Jul 19, 2016 at 9:10 pm

          Yes, DFD–we can actually post under any name here–even those of others. A possible weakness of the system.

          Pretty easy for Marc to trace, though.

        • marc says

          Jul 19, 2016 at 9:41 pm

          The WordPress system is all intentionally left “loose”, for all of your security, if you think about it it makes sense.

          If someone starts messing around as fake JayBoo and Abbas did there with malicious intent, they should be warned, i have an awful lot of tools at my disposal while i am training for my OSCP Kali cert. and am always looking for practice, having only studied defensive security till now, I am really eager to learn.

          You can use a fake email address, and of course, usernames are very flexible, but If I email you to discuss some issue, complaint etc and it bounces as fake, I will delete all comments. Best you use a real address.

          Just please let me know of abuse we miss, it’s not always easy to pick up on, I delete between hundreds to many tens of thousands of abusive comments a day. @DFD if you have a better configuration that works with WP you want me to look at, let me know.

          And just to be clear, like many here, i agree Christianblood is very troll like, but I have not seen anything crossing the line.

        • Angemon says

          Jul 20, 2016 at 12:51 pm

          marc posted:

          “I delete between hundreds to many tens of thousands of abusive comments a day. ”

          Holy crap – I don’t know how much you’re paid, but regardless of how much it is, it’s not enough 🙂

        • marc says

          Jul 20, 2016 at 2:10 pm

          Lol, I have plugins, scripts, firewalls and other tools to help. the vast vast majority are deleted as soon as posted, i rarely intervene, and mostly it’s for a “false positives” where someone upset my system and i need to manually approve them.

      • Jay Boo says

        Jul 19, 2016 at 10:58 am

        Mirren10 you add credence to the notion that people believe what they wish to believe. This imposter insulted gravenimage. Do you honestly believe that I would chose to insult gravenimage and somehow omit to tangle with you instead? Get real.
        ———————————————————————-

        I should not have to even trifle with you about this now. You should know better than to harp on other personal agendas but …

        “(..I do not 100% agree ” is TIMID phrasing

        The simplistic approach always fails. Most evil ideologies have elements that are benign to hide their true agenda. But that is a whole other conversation. ”islam is not 100% evil”. Is direct and to the point and is a whole different point. If you are honest you will admit that I am committed to anti-Islam and far from politically correct about Islam or Muhammad.

        • gravenimage says

          Jul 19, 2016 at 9:09 pm

          I missed the insult–just curious as to what it was? And no–I didn’t think that first post was from you, Jay Boo, in any case.

      • Mirren10 says

        Jul 19, 2016 at 11:12 am

        ”Mirren10 you add credence to the notion that people believe what they wish to believe. ”

        What rubbish. I never thought the ersatz ‘Jay Boo’ was you.

        “(..I do not 100% agree ” is TIMID phrasing
        ”islam is not 100% evil”. Is direct and to the point and is a whole different point.”

        Can’t see the difference, myself.

        ”islam is not 100% evil”. Is direct and to the point and is a whole different point.”

        You were asked at the time what percentage is *not* evil, or even to give an example. You refused to do so then, and I see you are refusing to do so now.

        ”Most evil ideologies have elements that are benign to hide their true agenda. ”

        So, give us an example of a ”benign element” in islam. It shouldn’t be *that* difficult, if ”islam is not 100% evil.”

        ”I am committed to anti-Islam and far from politically correct about Islam or Muhammad.”

        Then why refuse to answer the question ?

        • gravenimage says

          Jul 19, 2016 at 9:29 pm

          Mirren, for what it’s worth, I don’t consider Islam 100% evil, either. There is *but one* decent thing I have noticed in Islamic scripture–the condemnation of the Pagan Arab practice of smothering infants.

          Of course, killing children was already prohibited by Judaism and Christianity, so Islam brought nothing new.

          Then there are a handful of neutral matters, like Wudu or fasting during Ramadan–but even this is an evil if it is *enforced* on people, as it so often is:

          “Islamic State hangs two boys for eating during Ramadan”

          https://www.jihadwatch.org/2015/06/islamic-state-hangs-two-boys-for-eating-during-ramadan

          And there is only a *single* instance of tenderness in all of Islamic scripture:

          Book 017, Number 4211:
          Abdullah b. ‘Umar reported that a Jew and a Jewess were brought to Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) who had committed adultery… Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) pronounced judgment about both of them and they were stoned. Abdullah b. ‘Umar said: I was one of those who stoned them, and I saw the Jew protecting the Jewess from the stones with his body.”

          Every time I read this, it moves me. But note that the only moment of compassion in Islamic scripture is from the *victims* of Islam.

          So–is Islam 100% evil? It sure as hell comes *damn* close–so close that for all intents and purposes it is wholly evil.

    • gravenimage says

      Jul 19, 2016 at 9:03 pm

      It figures that “Christianblood” would agree with a hacker troll *posing* as a respected poster here.

    • gravenimage says

      Jul 19, 2016 at 9:07 pm

      And notice *something else* about “Christianblood”–he was agreeing with *vile Muslim troll abbas*. He wrote:

      (..I do not 100% agree with Muslim troll abbas but there are some ugly facts about USA ( west) polices , as I posted before here is what I think!!..)

      You are right (JB). There are a lot of facts in what he wrote .
      …………………..

      Good lord…

    • Western Canadian says

      Jul 19, 2016 at 9:21 pm

      This post suggests the name of the hacker…. uncrustiancrap filled in the blank with the name of someone he hates here…. whoa, make that one of the hundreds of posters he hate, here.

    • Angemon says

      Jul 20, 2016 at 12:21 pm

      Christianblood is supporting a muslim troll that spouted anti-Western drivel? I’m shocked, shocked!!!

  9. Nigel GFF says

    Jul 19, 2016 at 8:06 am

    These damned news channels are ‘at it’ all over the world. They are sponges, with an agenda.
    Channel 4 News (I never, ever watch it, in fact not once post in all the time I can remember that it has been on air).

    https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/1459893/why-did-channel-4-have-a-presenter-in-a-hijab-to-front-coverage-of-muslim-terror-in-nice/

    Of course, some channels around the world do have ‘reasonable’ folk – “SONIA Kruger is scared.
    The co-host of Channel 9’s Today Extra said that she would like to see the immigration of Muslim people to Australia “stopped now” – but get lambasted for daring to discuss. No to discussion, yes to ‘you’re a racist’ labels. To quote RS/JW, what race is islam? TV channels, no matter the hue, must be made to pay for their fawning attitude and acceptance of diabolical acts, perpetrated in the name of those selfsame racist muslims.

    How they ‘pay’ I don’t know, other than people boycotting their pernicious output.

  10. JOHN SPIELMAN says

    Jul 19, 2016 at 8:08 am

    spouting nonsense again, as per usual.
    islam is a fascist ideology hell bent on world conquest like the Nazis of the 1935-1945. Instead of Adolf Hiltler, your leader is the infamous but DEAD, muhammed, a self professed demon possessed mass murderer thief liar misogynist rapisr adulterer and peophile. pervert. muhammed was duped by Satan ( allah to muslims) masquerading as Gabriel (an angel of God )and whom St Paul warned us against being fooled by.
    islam appeals to criminals because their life style and muhammad’s (islam ‘s “perfect man”) was similar so these criminals can continue to terrorize, rob, and kill, just like muhammed did and consider it “holy” work!

  11. Dan says

    Jul 19, 2016 at 8:10 am

    Well now let’s do Islam and the Middle East.

    Recently confiscated terrorist laptops were shown to be full of porn. Bin Laden’s laptops were full of the stuff too.

    Muslim men can marry a woman temporarily to have sex.

    Muslim men can beat their women, and honor kill them.

    Muslim men maybe can’t touch unmarried Muslim women, but there doesn’t seem to be anything wrong with raping their own boys. Or taking child brides. Or groping and raping any non Muslim women. And boys. And little girls.

    The reason Muslims don’t release have pedophiles and rapists from prison is because they don’t consider those crimes, and don’t have them locked up in the first place.

    Muslims GROW and ship drugs. We may be big customers, but they’re the biggest poppy growers and shippers. Customer/Dealer. Prostitute/Pimp. It may be splitting hairs but, I think dealers and pimpls are worse than users and prostitutes. And if you don’t think Muslims sit around getting high, you need to get out more.

    Atheists are a minority. Well Islamists are supposed to be too, yet they propagate THEIR faith at the expense of other LIVES.

    Muslim traffic in OLD WORLD slavery, and have never stopped doing so. I was in Turkey in 2001 and ran into plenty of Muslims trafficking Russian sex slaves.

    All a Muslim has to do to divorce is say, “I divorce you.” to his wife three times. Saying there’s no divorce in Islam is as dumb as Ahmadinejad claiming there was no homosexuality in Islam.

    Muslim men can have multiple wives over there if they can support them, but here? Sucking from our welfare system? They ALL have multiple wives, claiming they’re widowed sister-in-laws and cousins and what not, and those doing that have them ALL on government handouts.

    And because of taqqiya, they see nothing wrong with it.

    Kanye West’s an idiot. The fact you even bring a dip like him up as example shows you’re taking extremes.

    • Dan says

      Jul 19, 2016 at 8:18 am

      Oh and while we may be falling into a moral shit hole?

      Middle East Muslim never crawled out of it in the first place.

    • Western Canadian says

      Jul 19, 2016 at 9:57 pm

      muslim ‘men’ can and do rape unmarried or even married muslim women. Or anyone or anything that can’t outrun them…..

  12. Baucent says

    Jul 19, 2016 at 8:26 am

    “He also went on to say that “DAESH (ISIS), Al Qaeda, Taliban, Al Shabab, Al Nusra, Lashkar Taiba, Lashkar Jhangwi, etc.. are all followers of Wahabi beliefs” and all are not Muslims.”

    Well, he’s a slippery con artist as he knows something that the ignorant Canadian does not, and that is the bar to be a muslim is very low. Simply believe that “there is only one god but Allah and Mohammed is his (only) prophet” and you are a muslim. So there can be muslims of all sorts of shades and hues, some secular some religious. But they are all muslims just as ISIS and all the other jihadists are muslims.

    • RonaldB says

      Jul 20, 2016 at 10:22 am

      “Simply believe that “there is only one god but Allah and Mohammed is his (only) prophet” ”

      I have a slight correction if I may.

      The belief is not necessary. All that is necessary is to say the Shahada in front of witnesses, and you’re a Muslim. You can have what beliefs you want, but you’d damn well not tell anyone about them. You are a Muslim after saying the Shahada totally without regard to your belief.

      Islam is a religion of compulsion and threats.

  13. Klaas says

    Jul 19, 2016 at 8:41 am

    Dear Abbas,

    There is just one phrase I agree with: “War is always messy and a bad thing”.
    How embarrassing that your holy book advocates war!

    There is a lot more to say, but I limit myself to your disgusting anti-semitism. In the quran jews are compared to apes, pigs and donkeys (7:66, 2:65, 5:60, 62:5). This fact by itself should be sufficient for any intelligent human being to understand that the quran is a fraud. No supreme being would lower itself to this level. There is much worse in the quran, but this is enough to understand that a human (or several humans) wrote that book.

    But more importantly, after discovering such phrase in your holy book, every decent human being should feel ashamed of their religion. Muslims should be so ashamed that they would never dare to make even the slightest anti-semitic remarks, and hope that no-one ever reminds them of these verses.

    But the concept of shame does not exist in islam. Neither do humor and love, just to name a few.

    • Indian Friend says

      Jul 19, 2016 at 10:27 am

      No matter how you spin it by making it about muslims faith , to justify the killings of muslims civillians in middle east by your terrorist US govt , it is absolutely clear that you all support state sponsored terrorism against muslims .
      Don’t be a coward , accept it .

      • john spielman says

        Jul 19, 2016 at 11:05 am

        rubbish the US does not deliberately attack non combatants unlike your islamist buddies do both in the WEST and in your own local crapistans. muhammed was a filthy terrorist mass murderer liar thief and pedophile pervert and is considered by you as a perfect man. It just shows the world how deceived you are

      • Western Canadian says

        Jul 19, 2016 at 9:23 pm

        And what low grade, low intelligence troll has come back, posting under another assumed name??

        • gravenimage says

          Jul 19, 2016 at 9:35 pm

          He was probably the creep hijacking Jay Boo’s good name.

        • Western Canadian says

          Jul 19, 2016 at 9:58 pm

          You are probably right…. Something you are noted for being, rather often!!

  14. Jay Boo says

    Jul 19, 2016 at 9:06 am

    HACKER
    FRAUD ALERT !!!!!!!!!

    Robert and Louis
    Someone has jump in on my account somehow.!!!!!

    That Christinblood word styled paragraph beginning:
    ” I do not 100% agree with Muslim troll abbas but there are some ugly facts about USA ( west) polices , as I posted before here is what I think !! ”

    I never would use such a grotesque phrase as “here is what I think ”
    I only log in from one location in North Carolina — always

    • Klaas says

      Jul 19, 2016 at 9:50 am

      Good to know this, Jay Boo. We do not always agree, but I was puzzled by some weird stuff you wrote. I thought for a moment you had become schizophrenic…

      I may have responded to one of the hacks. Don’t take it personally, if it was’t you.

    • gravenimage says

      Jul 19, 2016 at 9:36 pm

      Ugly that some troll would hijack your name, Jay Boo.

  15. DFD says

    Jul 19, 2016 at 9:17 am

    I knew it, I knew it! And it’s far worse than it seems.

    I often wondered about those Imams and statements by their friends, Obama, Merkel, Kerry at al. Such honourable people wouldn’t lie to us, would they? So I began to investigate, and…

    Here is the horrible, naked truth:
    =========================.

    All that has happened had nothing to do with Islam, it wasn’t done by peaceful, loveable, adorable, cute and huggable Muslims. The Imams are just too good hearted to tell you ‘the whole thing’…. They worry you may get depressed. You know, just like Mohamed was when he was suicidal and depressed, as a child and later as a young man.

    The truth is that shortly before the end of WW1 Snoopy and The Red Baron were abducted by aliens, brainwashed, reprogrammed and sent back to earth. They were completely taken over, body **and ** mind snatched, then began their insidious work as Manitouchurianian candidates and plants…

    For Snoopy, operating in the western Atlantic region it was relatively easy, all he had to do with to double act as various candidates, couldn’t fail to win every election. If things got hairy, he had his helpers with the KKK, Black Panthers and the Comancheros – yes, he fooled them all. Those helpers worked and work for him without realizing it. They bumped off all his competitors, and everyone who could see and popssibly tell the truth. Now, do you see how devious Snoopy really is? Obvious, isn’t it? He wanted murder and mayhem all along for his alien masters and handlers. He wanted to win over certain sections of society, locally/nationally as well as internationally, but failed. So he teamed up with the Jooosss who pretended to be Muslims. It’s not going too well though, there are always some real Muslims and converts to Islam who thwart Snoopy’s dastardly plans. They throw themselves into the blast waves of bombs, offer prayers to Allah to deflect bullets which have been fired by Snoopy’s agents, the Joooos masquerading as Muslims. It is sickening, Kamikaze infidels throwing themselves into the paths of bullets fired by mentally deranged, work place stressed, Joooisshh secret agents, who have nothing to do with Islam. And all the time the followers of the religion of peace are the real victims, whilst the try to protect us kafirun bumpkins. Doesn’t anybody see that?

    Eastern Atlantic, the job here was and is somewhat more difficult for Baron Manfred von Richthoven, his new and now real name is: ..__-jnjs;b./d/,.l/aenrxp[‘ ukka ukka jkbnsrsfkmkk,zx===.. , (I wrote that phonetically, for your benefit).

    He had to fix Russia with a revolution, arranged for Versailles and thus the Nazis, then mislead the public under the guise of a guy called Kalergi, then founded the School of Frankfurt with which he turned atheism into sheer God-hatred, and his followers since then behave as if they are disciples of a new religion. Well, they are, they follow the great god Atheistos who is nothing, never was and will never be – what a con-job! He then triggered another major war and afterwards divided Europe. What a guy… The rest is history.

    Here’s the original relationship with Snoopy and Baron von Richthoven as narrated by “The Royal Guardsmen” https://youtu.be/6hLiNaz2-lk . It was after their joint Christmas toast, see here https://youtu.be/sh-J4GSPgAM that they were abducted. And the whole thing started, as above.

  16. Ann says

    Jul 19, 2016 at 9:23 am

    I am an American, Married to the same man for twenty-six years, do not take drugs, am active in our church, love my sons, volunteer as a docent in historical site, live peacefully and try to see others as children of God.
    I follow Jiihad Watch because I want to have more than PC commentary to read regarding radical Islam and it’s not-so-subtle creep into more and more of the Western world.

    • gravenimage says

      Jul 19, 2016 at 9:42 pm

      Here, here!

  17. UriahB says

    Jul 19, 2016 at 9:31 am

    these ‘thriving ‘ palestinians were not indegenious to the area. but of course there was no temple in jerusalem bla bla bla bla bla

    • Western Canadian says

      Jul 19, 2016 at 9:25 pm

      A moron has spoken…. all bow down, and vomit.

  18. Indian Friend says

    Jul 19, 2016 at 10:15 am

    No doubt , the bigger terrorists are those who invade other soverign countries & bomb innocent men women & children . USA invaded iraq , destroyed the country , killed a large population of muslims civillians who never attacked USA . They invaded Libiya , destablized the country , killed the head of state , killed a large number of muslims who too never attacked USA . Now its Syrian govt that is about to be overturned. These millitary invasions in middle- east have caused a chaos leading to large number of muslim refugees .

    USA , Israel & its allies are criminal govts pursuing a foreign policy which is nothing but State sponsored terrorism against muslims.

    And yet these anti muslim bigots like Robert Spencer , Pamella Geller see these muslim civillians causalities due millitary aggressions as fair game . They are all for bombing any number of muslim men , women, & children by their terrorist govts but they see terrorism only when its a non-muslim who is the victim .

    • john spielman says

      Jul 19, 2016 at 11:09 am

      for shame, the muslim INVASION and conquest of the Indian subcontinent, by your filthy muhammedan ancestors, killed 50 -200 million people, and you dare talk to me about terrorism by the USA?

    • linnte says

      Jul 19, 2016 at 12:00 pm

      If the USA wanted to get rid of Muslims, we could and would. You forget, our President is Muslim. Islam must be eradicated. Islamic ideology is at war with all non believers. Personally? I wish the USA would take over and control all Muslim countries. As long as Islam is at war with me, I will be at war with Islam. The Islamic texts must be banned.

    • Westman says

      Jul 19, 2016 at 1:39 pm

      Indian,

      Please provide a photo or a name of the Americans that killed Gaddafi. It was his own people, Muslims, in fact.

      Gaddafi took power by overthrowing the constitutional Monarchy of a country, previously named Libya by a former colonizer, Italy; and previously to that, a country forced to adopt Islam by conquest and be ruled (colonized) by the Ottoman Empire.

      He set up communist-like local and central committees to propose and forward the legislative needs of the people, though largely ignoring them. He was a “benevolent dictator” who stayed in “office” too long. In spite of his better accomplishments, his own people rebelled, and removed him from office in the manner that dispatches most dictators. The allies aided the rebels, but did not start the rebellion. It was Muslims, wanting a theocracy, that killed him.

      • RonaldB says

        Jul 20, 2016 at 10:39 am

        “The allies aided the rebels, but did not start the rebellion.”

        The US had not business involving itself with the overthrow of the Libyan government of Gaddafi. Gaddafi might have been nuts, but he was not at the time hostile to the US government or acting against our interests. There are legions of reasons for the US to have stayed out of Libyan affairs, both moral and out of self-interest.

        Moral:
        destroying the Libyan government opened it up to civil war, civilian slaughter, and ISIS. I don’t want my country to be responsible for the killing of other peoples, if not necessary for defense. I do not condemn, for example, the bombing of Hiroshima. Regardless of the debates, it was a wartime action that was seen as necessary to save American lives.

        Self-interest:
        There are almost too many reasons to enumerate.

        Gaddafi had already destroyed his stockpiles of chemical weapons and renounced support of terrorism. There was absolutely no reason to depose him.

        Gaddafi had prevented refugees from using the coast of Libya to travel to Europe. Deposing him allowed thousands or hundreds of thousands of Muslim and African refugees to move to the West.

        ISIS now has a firm foothold in Libyan territory and uses the territory and oil revenues to fund its operations.

        Weapons from the Libyan military and from the ill-considered US support of Libyan rebel groups are in the hands of ISIS and other active Islamic terror organizations.

        Last but not least, the US has made it plain that cooperation with the US is no guarantee whatsoever that the US will not turn against you.

    • Western Canadian says

      Jul 19, 2016 at 9:28 pm

      Amusing that some muslim troll comes by, posts under a laughable name of indian friend, and offers up nothing but muslim loving, bold face lies about islam, and lies about deliberate bombing etc. of muslim civilians by the west…. How incredibly stupid, must this muslim be, to try to pretend to be a member of the group that historically suffered the most at the vicious and blood stained hands, of devout muslims??

    • gravenimage says

      Jul 19, 2016 at 9:43 pm

      Who is this repulsive troll?

  19. Kay says

    Jul 19, 2016 at 10:42 am

    Huffpo publishing that jihad exists? That’s pretty amazing, isn’t it?

  20. UriahB says

    Jul 19, 2016 at 11:30 am

    YES. LIKE LOOKMANN SAYS. IF THATS NOT YOU, I AM CERTAINLY RELIEVED. GET YOUR COMPUTER CLEANED OUT AND BE CAREFUL. I KNOW. HAD SAME ISSUE. VERY DISTURBING. TAKE CARE.

  21. Mong says

    Jul 19, 2016 at 12:07 pm

    Hi + is me + disturbing is? Israel but true. Is right + west yes. Terrorist + Muslim is only wrong no? How do we know this? Clinton + bush is know this + shithead.

  22. mortimer says

    Jul 19, 2016 at 12:24 pm

    Let’s look at these words a moment: “worse than the Holocaust of World War II”

    Are you enraged? To whom are you going to write to protest?

  23. Tom Steele says

    Jul 19, 2016 at 2:05 pm

    Attack the moderates and place all Muslims in the same box. Demonization is a basic in promotion of hatred.

    • gravenimage says

      Jul 19, 2016 at 9:47 pm

      The idea that this calumny-spouting creep is a “moderate” is ludicrous.

      No one here puts all Muslims in the “same box”–just those who enable Jihad.

  24. gravenimage says

    Jul 19, 2016 at 6:36 pm

    “Moderate” Muslim Canadian TV guest expert: Islamic State supported by West & America
    ……………………………

    More of the usual–Jihad and Shari’ah are not really Islamic, but are just trumped up by America and the West to “make Islam look bad”. *Ugh*.

  25. Western Canadian says

    Jul 19, 2016 at 9:33 pm

    This is the same muslim moron who demanded that the police throw Ezra Levant into jail for publishing the mad mo cartoons, viciously claimed Canadians were treating muslims like Jews in hitlers Germany, engaged in a vicious and cowardly smear against Robert when he was in Calgary for a VERY well attended and received talk…

    And every bootlicker in the fractured Christian/Jewish community, gathers round this moron to sing his praises….

    A truth that is unavoidable in life: Only your own can truly betray you. And they are betraying us to sub-gutter scum, like this imam.

    • gravenimage says

      Jul 19, 2016 at 10:46 pm

      I hadn’t realized this was the same Mohammedan. Thanks, Western Canadian.

  26. common sense says

    Jul 19, 2016 at 9:45 pm

    Well that sums it up. Thanks John! I’d just like to mention that this Imam’s deflections are the same as Obama’s. Who is learning from who?

    Wahabi / Salafi movements promote Shariah as does this Imam so how could he (this Imam) NOT be a Jihadist? He must be daft to think people here won’t see right through his agenda.

    “North American Islamists have changed their tune and today try to conceal the true meaning of the word Jihad, insisting it has nothing to do with holy war, but is a ‘struggle’ against one’s ego. I wish that were true, but it isn’t.”

    He talks out of both sides of his mouth his IQ must be below 80 to speak this way but the Canadian Govt scares me more that they embrace these blatantly supremacist groups.

  27. Lioness says

    Jul 20, 2016 at 12:45 pm

    This so-called imam is so full of BS that it’s coming out of his ears. A few years ago he said that the poor muslims in Canada are treated so badly, and comapred it to the treatment of Jews in Germany at the hands of Hitler. Somebody should have shown him a footage of Krystal Nacht.
    He was the one that sued Ezra Levant for publishing the muhammad cartoons (he lost). He also said that women that are not dressed “appropriately” (i.e. hijab) should not complain if they are raped. A fine Canadian citizen. And Canada is bringing many more like him.

  28. John says

    Jul 25, 2016 at 4:11 pm

    Hmm. There is something going on in Calgary.

    Canadian authorities have reported that at least 130 citizens are involved extremist activities abroad, with 30 in Syria alone. In Calgary, five youths who attended the 8th & 8th Musallah mosque are known to have joined the Islamic State, leading the Canadian media to emphatically …

    8th & 8th

    https://news.vice.com/video/homegrown-radicals

    We need a full and complete list of mosques and madrassas and Islamic political organizations in Canada.

    I will bet that the 8th & 8th is not the only one.

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