We hear this every time there is a jihad massacre, and it always raises questions that the mainstream media never gets around to asking. Why is Tawfik Bouhlel “shocked”? Is he unaware of the daily headlines? Does he really not know about the jihad massacres that are taking place on an increasingly frequent basis around the world? Is it really so shocking to him that a Muslim committed one of them in Nice?
Or does he want us to understand that he is “shocked” because the Islam he teaches in Nice is peaceful and benign, and so he is at a loss as to how any Muslim could have gotten the idea that his religion commands warfare against Infidels? If that is the case, then what programs does he have in place in his mosque to teach Muslims there to reject the Islam of the Islamic State and al-Qaeda? I’m betting that he has none. Why not?
And if he is so “shocked,” what is his explanation for why so many Muslims around the world misunderstand Islam all in the same way, so as to believe that it calls for violence against unbelievers?
Finally, he says: “What this man has done is unthinkable and to be completely condemned because every human being is sacred, whether Christian, Jewish, Muslim, regardless of colour or religion.” But he doesn’t explain that some are more sacred than others: “The indemnity for the death or injury of a woman is one-half the indemnity paid for a man. The indemnity paid for a Jew or Christian is one-third the indemnity paid for a Muslim. The indemnity paid for a Zoroastrian is one-fifteenth that of a Muslim.” — Reliance of the Traveller, a classic manual of Islamic sacred law (o4.9)
“Nice attack: ‘This has nothing to do with Islam,’ says imam after Bastille Day terror atrocity,” by Jamie Micklethwaite, Evening Standard, July 15, 2016 (thanks to Lookmann):
Islam had nothing to do with the truck attack in Nice which claimed the lives of at least 84 people, a local imam has said….
One witness claimed he shouted Allahu Akhbar at the wheel.
Local Imam Tawfik Bouhlel, who is not related to the attacker, condemned his actions, stating that he does not represent Islam.
He told iNews: “I’m terribly shocked by what has happened. I have lived in France for 35 years in peace and harmony with others and for such a thing to happen gives me the most profound sorrow.
“The name is not familiar to me, I don’t know this man. What I will be saying during our prayers is that we must pull together.
“What this man has done is unthinkable and to be completely condemned because every human being is sacred, whether Christian, Jewish, Muslim, regardless of colour or religion.
“This has nothing to do with Islam. This man does not represent Islam. I am afraid that there are fanatics everywhere, in every neighbourhood. We can only defeat them together.”

Margirite says
Yes it does have something to do with islam
Guy Jones says
I think that part of the problem is that Islam has never experienced a substantive reformation of the content of the Koran and Hadiths that advocate for the killing or subjugation of non-Muslims. Which is impossible, I know, since the former is alleged to be God’s own commands, as conveyed to Mohammed, while the latter constitutes the teachings of Mohammed. There’s no room for a reformation of what is
Basically, Islam hasn’t evolved in any meaningful sense, since its founding, and, now, its anachronistic and barbaric tenets stand in direct contradiction to basic notions of peaceful co-existence, secular democracy, religious and cultural pluralism, equal rights, etc., its followers, rather than turning inward to concede the obvious — to wit, that the tenets of their chosen faith directly command violent behavior as a religious duty — take refuge in fallacious and dishonest claims that such violence “has nothing to do with Islam.”
This is a posture that is not only patently dishonest, it speaks to an inability and an unwillingness on the part of Muslims to re-examine and to re-assess Islamic doctrine, and, to reform it.
So, if Muslims are unwilling to reform their ideology to eliminate the inspiration for such violence, what choice does the free world have, if it wants to protect itself?
We have reached a point where, sadly, all Muslims currently present in western nations who do not renounce sharia and the duty to undertake jihad, must be deported. That immigration by Muslims should be banned is already a given.
Simon Jones says
Guy Jones, That was so well said. Very well articulated, can I hang around you? (maybe your some of your way will rub off on me? 😉 )
billybob says
I find a problem with your entire premise, that Islam has never experienced a substantive reformation. Why would you expect a religion to reform itself? Let us consider what is a Prophet of God, and the message he might deliver. We would expect it would be no less than a message of Timeless and Universal Truth.
Take Christianity, for example. Christ’s message, in my opinion, does reflect a Timeless and Universal Truth. It was never “reformed”, as of course it never needed reform. It was perfect when it was delivered, and remains perfect to this very day.
There were institutions who were supposedly guardians of the truth of Christ’s message. These institutions soon lost their way and became corrupted. Then a “reformation” was required to get back on track. In fact, there is a continuous, ongoing, endless need for reformation of such institutions because Truth is like water carried in our hands. It drips away through our fingers as fast as we raise our cupped hands up from the well. And oh… as an aside, I will state that whether there was actually a flesh and blood historical Christ or not, his purported Words still convey this message of Timeless and Universal Truth. I invite the reader to consider his words alone and ask himself if he agrees with me.
Personally, I am not certain there was an historical Christ, but whoever’s words are recorded in the New Testament are inspiring and wise. They ring true in and of themselves. The story of Jesus is still very powerful and evocative even if his life was a fiction. There is Truth to be found in literature. On the contrary, there is no truth to be found in the Quran.
Islam became corrupted from the moment Muhamad picked up a sword and felt the thrill of lust for worldly power sending a shiver down his spine. It is at that very moment it all went so very wrong. Before that moment he may have been a ray of light. After, he was a fallen man with a corrupted soul who led his followers astray.
Like the story of Icarus or Dante’s Inferno, Islam could have been a great myth with a moral lesson and thereby be “truthful”. “Take heed – do not be like this ambitious fool Muhammad who traded his soul for a sword!” …but Islam actually believes Muhammad was chosen to be the Messenger of God! Such arrogance on top of such ugliness and everything else that is wrong with it. Islam has no humility.
All the reformation in the world will never turn the message delivered by Muhammad into Truth, You can’t make a silk purse out of a sow’s ear.
biff says
Nothing to do with Islam. Never does.
Ok how about we do not want your idiot middle ages Sharia law then.
Islam has nothing to do with Sharia or Caliphate next?
Islam has nothing to do with anything it seems. Islam certainly has nothing to do with THINKING or human decency. That’s clear.
Obama, apologist, denier and chief propagandist.
Concentration camps in WWII had NOTHING TO DO WITH NAZI’s.
CARS HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH TRANSPORTATION..
What color is your sky Iman Obama?
duh swani says
He drank beer, he ate pork, he was mentally ill,,,When he shouted Allahu Akbar he was reacting to a demon in his head..Just because the demons name was Allah, doesn’t mean Islam had anything to do with it…does it?
biff says
The nazi extermination camp guards did not really mean “get in the gas chamber”.
Mass extermination of jews in WWII HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH NAZI’s.
Islam has nothing to do with terrorism and Nazi had nothing to do with death camps. Writing it down makes it true.
Walter Sieruk says
There are already denials that the Bastille Day jihadist with his murderous terrorism was really a Muslim. This denial is based on the grounds that he has engaged in un-Islamic activities. For example, he ate pork and drank alcohol. This is the same line of reasoning which denied that the Muslim terrorists shooter and mass murderer of Orlando was a real Muslim because it was said that he might have had “homosexual tendencies.” Likewise, some people have even said that the 9/11 hijackers were not actual Muslims because two of them, maybe, attended a strip joint during the night of September 10, 2001. All such claims aren’t taking into account that according to Islam if a jihad –minded Muslim dies in a jihad suicide/homicide attack, which they call a “martyrdom operation,” then all his sins are wiped clean and he will then enter into paradise. These meaning all his sins, whatever those sins are. Including the eating of pork, or the drinking of alcohol, homosexual tendencies or spending time in a strip joint. In conclusion, that jihadist terrorist mass murder at the city in Nice France on July 14 was a real Muslim terrorist.
biff says
He is not a real Muslim, that is clear.
A real Muslim would have made sure to save Sunni’s from the crowd before killing everybody else.
Killing indiscriminately is un-Islamic.
Real Muslims make sure to kill the jews and infidels.
Imagine, he might have killed a fully Sharia compliant Muslim in the crowd. That would be totally unacceptable of course. The other 70 people were infidel scum.
gravenimage says
Imagine, he might have killed a fully Sharia compliant Muslim in the crowd. That would be totally unacceptable of course. The other 70 people were infidel scum.
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Actually, any pious Muslim killed in a Jihad terror attack goes straight to Paradise, so they have done him a favor. They take this quite seriously, and so it means Jihadists can be completely indiscriminate in their slaughter.
Walter Sieruk says
On Bastille Day in Nice France there was another jihadist/Muslim terror attack. This jihad attack, like the others, was vicious, malicious and murderous. At first that jihadist opened fired into a group of people and then he plowed into and through, with a large truck, a crowd of people. In that deadly Islamic terror attack in Nice it was so awful and hideous that one witness, just after that Islamic terror attack, described the scene as “bodies everywhere.” Another wittiness said “I was standing in blood, It’ everywhere.” This Islamic jihadist attack in Nice resulted in 84 murdered and over 200injured. This violent and heinous murderous action of Islamic violence is based on the violence and killing that is part of the doctrines of the Koran, as some call Islam’s “holy book” the Qur’an . To give only a few of many example of this from the Koran is Sura 2:191 which instructs “Kill the disbelievers wherever you fine them.” Likewise, the Koran also teaches “Whenever you encounter the unbeliever’s strike of their heads, until you make a great slaughter among them…” Sura 47:4. Let’s face it , using a firearm and a truck can sure make a greater “slaughter among them” then a sword can . In addition, that jihad –minded Muslim also died in the brutal and deadly Islamic attack. This too is Koranic based. For the Koran instructs “The believers fight in Allah’s Cause, they slay and are slain, they kill and are killed.” Sura 9:111. So it’s not wise to be taken in as in fool as or snowed , by the many apologists for Islam who make the false claim that “Islam is a peaceful religion that was hijacked by criminal for politics” That is a lame attempt to hide as in cover up the violent and deadly essence of that religion which is Islam.
biff says
INFIDEL LIVES MATTER
John Marst says
Islam has nothing to do with Islam. Muhammad was the Buddha of the Middle East. And Adolph Eichmann ran a Jewish charity.
biff says
Exactly.
Killing infidels and others is an act of love for a Muslim. The Muslim is SAVING them by killing them.
It’s called speaking like Obama.
Outright lies and purposeful manipulations told with a straight face over and over.
Maybe it’s something that Obama learned in one of the Indonesian madrases he attended. Not that his is Muslim of course or cases more about Islam then the United States.
Absolutely not.
billybob says
The word you are looking for is “mercy”, not “love”. Muslims aren’t really into love. That is more of a Christian thing. Your opening sentence should have read…
“Killing infidels and others is an act of mercy for a Muslim.
People hear that word in connection with Islam and think “Well of course God is merciful” – from the Christian point of view, but Muslims have a very different understanding of the meaning of the word – “mercy”. It doesn’t mean to them what you might think it means. The most cruel acts of Allah are referred to as a “mercy”. It is truly like George Orwell’s 1984 “War is peace, Freedom is Slavery, Ignorance is Strength”.
Angemon says
Expected/10
VRWC member77 says
This may offend some people but I am sick and tried of seeing these candle vigils after every major ISLAMIC (not “radical”) TERRORIST attack. How many army units sat around campfires after a stinging military defeat thinking that hopeful healing kumbaya waves would eventually prevail over the enemy? And if they sprinkled the fire pit with a few pretty flowers and made the whole thing a grand public display the enemy would eventually see it their way?
If they’re going to gather, then gather with huge signs in big red and black letters saying things like:
– NO SHARIA HERE……NEVER!!
– ISLAM HONORS MURDER AND FREEDOM HONORS LIFE……LIFE WILL PREVAIL
– MUHAMMAD IS YOUR PERVERSION, NOT OURS!
Otherwise, don’t gather. It only emboldens the enemy, as we’ve just seen proof.
someday?…..perhaps?
citycat says
Shocked!
Maybe his time of a cushi jihad is threatened by this latest type of Islamic behaviour.
“defeat them together”- draw the infidel in to the fight of Islam, allowing Islam to gain more respect, familiarity, presence, and space in infidel lands.
Newfie Templar says
Sure, and rain has nothing to do with water either. The future must not belong to those who slaughter in the name of the prophet of Islam (may deodorant be upon him).
Will Doohan says
Hahahahaha. Good one. I think we should say and write – Muhammad, may war and strife be upon him.
Peter says
Au contraire, it has “every” thing to do with Islam.
biff says
Islamaphobia and right wing extremists (people that vote republican) are the biggest threats the USA faces.
Oh wait, Climate change also.
Come on everyone, admit it, Islamaphobia is the biggest threat to western society.
Islamaphobia kills tens of thousands every day, somehow I guess. Anyway Obama says it, so it must be true.
It cannot be that he is a seditious asshole intent on destroying western society.
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Bob says
Biff- good ol’ political correctness helps Islam, too – the UK police & politicos’re ham-strung by it!
Cthulhu says
Quran has nothing to do with islam, muslims have nothing to do with islam, islam has nothing to do with islam… ( damned autocorrect keeps writing “islam” with capital).
Alarmed Pig Farmer says
If it’s true about the beer and the pork eating doesn’t make him a Moslem, then it’s incumbent on France, Britain, America and all nations to which Moslems have run seeking refuge institute programs immediately to school all their Moslems on proper Islam. They should be instructed on the commands of the scriptures, and that would make it safer for us all.
Ngwu says
I am a Nigerian, I wish the whole of Europe will not live under the canopy of an Islamic peace. You have the powers today to change the trajectory. Ask yourselves Europe, why are the Islamic nations not open to change.
gravenimage says
Yes–I hate what Islam is doing to Nigeria, Ngwu.
Mirren10 says
“This has nothing to do with islam”.
How many times are we going to listen to this evil *lying*, and say nothing to counteract it ?
gravenimage says
Nice imam “shocked” by jihad massacre: “This has nothing to do with Islam”
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Isn’t everyone sick to death of this predictable Taqiyya at this point?
Mockingjay says
“a Nice Imam”
“the Nice attack”
“the Nice victims”
….
Somewhere, there are people laughing about these “wordplays”.
You know who they are.
Janeatte says
They playing innocent victims , that’s what is Mohammad taught them to do until they have the appropriate time to attack you.
Jack Holan says
How many times have we heard a teqqiyah such as this before after a terror incident. The Imam proclaims having nor recollection of seeing the terrorist at his Mosque. Then, a week or two later evidence becomes available that disproves that claim. Yet, it seems those fancy dancy Comey FBI men don’t pursue it too far and the Jeh Johnson Homeland men are held back on their short leash so they’re useless and the Mosque and Imam go on. When was the last time an Imam was arrested & charged during the Obama/Johnson-Holder/Lynch years or a Mosque shut down for activities leading to incitement. Oh I forgot we wouldn’t know. We don’t monitor but in the days of Rabbi Kahane and the JDL infiltrating Synagogue memberships was acceptable because there are two sets of rules, One for Muslims the ‘victims’ and Two, for Jews the ‘aggressors’.
steve brown says
Taqiyyah
Patrick Hostis says
This is a load of crap! This is Islam! Death and Intolerance are built into the very DNA of Islam
UriahB says
I think I’ve got it. Finally. Islam has nothing to do with Islam.
mortimer says
All mullahs know what Islam teaches. They are not naïve. They are lying about jihad to trick the dirty kafirs from learning about it.
mortimer says
Tawfik Bouhlel and other mullahs like him lie about jihad to their own detriment. They undermine their own credibility with the knowledgeable counterjihadists and then the counterjihad informs more and more Westerners.
John says
Same problem up here in Canada, we get the message from the media:
“Islam is a religion of Peace” — scary thing is a that a lot of people still do believe this BS!
According to current polls, it seems that Canadians are starting to realize that we let in a “wolf-in-sheep’s-clothing”, a “Trojan horse”.
Up here, we need to wise up, quickly, and deal with the problem of national security, and, international security, before it is too late. Keep talking, keep learning, to start.
We are at about 3% right now, France is at about 12%.
Islamic terrorist attacks will occur if the Muslim population of a country goes up over 10%.
That is my theory: safety first!
John of Canada
PS.
I can bet you a case of beer that what I just wrote would never be published in a Canadian newspaper!
Cynthia in California says
The concept of taqiyya allows these vague, yak-yak discussions that go nowhere and actual statements that “Islam is a religion of peace” to be promulgated. Taqiyya is enjoined upon Muslims in the Quran so that they may inveigle unbelievers (that’s us) into becoming Muslim and THEN learn the truth. But, of course, leaving Islam is a capital crime and you’ll die for it. So it’s probably just safer to smile at them and exit stage left as soon as possible.
Tell ya what: send your small letter, in a tighter format, to some leading Canadian newspapers and see what happens. Also mention taqiyya
Demsci says
Western democratic citizens are getting to know Islam ever better in ever bigger numbers, I hope and think. And Political Correct parties may well get harshly “punished” in elections in the near future and lose much votes, terrain and power to so-called (falsely) right-wing-parties. And it serves the Political Corrects right.
But if we can through this electoral pressure persuade them (the Political Corrects, swingvoters and fence-sitters) to budge from their stubborn position, we can examine 3 premises;
1. Islam is clear and basically benign, harmless, with is apparently the position of the Political Corrects. But which is completely untenable by now, at least for reasonable people.
2. Islam is clear AND VERY anti-democratic in key tenets, values and opinions of hundreds of millions of Muslims. Which IS my position and of many Democratic Citizens who really know Islam.
Or 3. Islam is UNCLEAR. Not our position.
But … look at what Robert writes sarcastically time and again; that “another Muslim has misunderstood Islam” or that “so many Muslims misunderstand Islam” and that “Islam-apologists and western politicians are even now on their way to instruct the misunderstanders about what Islam really is”.
And always we keep hearing from Muslims and Political Corrects and their journalists and politicians that Islam should be understood in a different, more peaceful, neutral way.
And when finally apologists attempt to explain precisely what that better way of interpreting Islam is, often in very tortuous, denying, illogical way it becomes clear that Islam, at best, is often contradicting itself and clumsily and inadequately explanatory, therefore very UNCLEAR.
And bear in mind, Islam’s core texts and it’s interpretations by “Tafsirs” “Exegesis” are completely immutable! So real clarifications and updates, adaptations to the present, will never come.
Under these circumstances, can it be a tactic of OUR politicians, in an attempt to win the magical 51 % support, to declare Islam UNCLEAR, and too prone to anti-Democratic interpretation?
And in combination with that can the choice in favor of Islam, without specification, by individuals, groups and mosques, residing in democratic countries, be regarded as “problematic”, “irresponsible”, ‘disqualifying for immigration”?
Because of unclarity in combination with essential anti-democratic interpretation by hundreds of millions of Muslims? Even if it were true that also hundreds of millions of Muslims are harmless nice people?
It follows that at the very least a Muslim, or Muslim-group, or Mosque, residing in Democratic Countries, should be asked to choose, at least in writing, for loyalty to the full democratic system, human rights, and to Democratic alliances of states, over and above loyalty to anti-democratic systems, and nations and groups.
Condemning by Muslims of anti-democratic terrorist attacks etc should not be considered enough, because that leaves open the distinct possibility that condemners condemn Democracy and Democratic nation alliances even more.
And let us develop our policies from there. This is my logic.
Politicallyincorrectistruth says
With all due respect…FUCK ISLAM. It should be banned. Burn all korans.
Crusades Were Right! says
The “peaceful” “moderate” majority Muslims do nothing to help us fight the “fake” ones who slaughter us. In the final analysis, they won’t lift a finger to protect Christians or other non-Muslims. Instead, they provide cover for Islam, and a community into which our enemies can disappear and from which they can emerge at will.
Demsci says
Yes, largely right.
And yet, from my experience and what I read, the vast majority of Muslims are so very dependent on Democratic society.
Their children need our schools and our health service, health insurance, police and much more.
Their elderly and unemployed need our health care social security/ pension even more.
And so the parents of the children and children of the elderly too all need our society very much.
And so their children get influenced by our children and their teachers. And so the dependent Muslims are forced to act as if being nice, neutral towards our society,
Muslims need to be serving other citizens in shops, or in other serviceprofessions, in case they do have a job etc.
Somehow these Muslims (must) get influenced by values, tenets, ideas from our civilization.
And so they can be very devout Muslims but still COMBINE that with Democratic, tolerant values, even if they wrongly or falsely contribute those values with Islam!
At least our leverage and our energy could be used to enhance that side of many, dependent, Muslims, residing in Democratic Nations.
But yes, let us nonetheless also be aware of the danger and take defensive measures.
Tony46 says
More than 99.99% of all honor killings are perpetrated by ”moderate” family members.
How come this is not Islam??
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dumbledoresarmy says
Memo to the French investigators – law enforcement, military, homeland security and intelligence agencies: do. not. believe. this. imam.
I would propose, indeed, that you surprise-search *his* mosque *first*.
Jay Boo says
Same last name
Imam Tawfik Bouhlel
Truck terrorist Mohamed Lahouaiej Bouhlel
Jay Boo says
Saudi funded mosque in Nice, France
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/07/15/saudi-funded-mosque-opened-nice-two-weeks-attack/
Jay Boo says
Topless — Muslim men
Muslim men have been attracted to Nice, France where they could go to the beach every day to lock-eyed-stare at topless women and complain to each other about infidel behavior.
Women no longer feel comfortable or safe going topless their because of these CREEPY MUSLIM MEN.
Manuele says
Nice imam “shocked” by jihad massacre: “This has nothing to do with Islam” THIS IS ANOTHER DENIAL BIG TIME, “THIS IS NOTHING TO DO WITH ISLAM” BULLSHIT, LIAR, BULLSHIT, MUHAMMAD AND HIS FORK TONGUE CARRIED ON BY HIS FOLLOWERS. NO! NEVER TRUST ANY IMAM/CLERICS ARE ALL ISLAMAFUCKWITS.