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Raymond Ibrahim: ‘Worthless Christians’ Treated ‘Like Animals’

Jul 22, 2016 3:18 pm By Raymond Ibrahim

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Originally published by Gatestone Institute

The following anecdotes of Muslim persecution of Christians around the world occurred or were reported in April, 2016. They are categorized by theme, or familiar patterns:

Muslim Attacks on Christian Churches

United States: A pro-ISIS group calling itself the United Cyber Caliphate defaced the website of the Christian Reformed Church in the city of Lamont, Michigan. A 15-year-old teenage girl discovered the website’s defacement—which consisted of a YouTube ISIS propaganda video and Arabic text—while searching for the church’s phone number. The video’s spokesman says, “We will conquer your Rome, break your crosses and enslave your women by the permission of Allah, the Exalted. This is His promise to us, He is glorified and He does not fail in His promise.”

Ethiopia: Rioting Muslims accusing Christians of converting Muslims rampaged throughout the East Shewa Zone.  They burned down 14 churches—belonging to Orthodox, Catholic, and Protestant denominations—and left more than 2,000 Christians without worship venues.  One church cemetery was also vandalized.  A church leader said: “We have been worshipping outside and sitting on the bare ground bearing the hot sun.  We appeal to our brothers elsewhere to come and assist us. The attackers poured petrol and were chanting ‘Allahu Akbar’ [Allah is greater] before setting the church building on fire.”  Ethiopia is roughly 60 percent Christian and 34 percent Muslim.

Uganda: Around midnight on April 12, an angry Muslim mob demolished a Christian church.  They were heard chanting: “We cannot live together with neighbors who are infidels. We have to fight for the cause of Allah.”  The church’s 450 members were left without shelter during the rainy season. Musical instruments, more than 500 plastic chairs and other property were also destroyed. Two days earlier, a group of Muslims shouting “Allah only is to be worshipped, and Muhammad is his prophet” slaughtered a church leader’s pigs, a key source of income.  He had previously received a text saying, “Let this be known to your church members that pigs are extremely unholy and an abomination before Allah, very outrageous and shameful.  They are haram [forbidden] and unlawful as our holy Quran does prohibit them.”  Muslims also sent a text message to a church member– “We are soon coming for the heads of your pigs” – before killing eight of his swine.

Iraq: The Islamic State blew up Mosul’s iconic Clock Church, famed for its soaring clock tower, with explosives. According to the Assyrian International News Agency, “Militants cordoned off areas surrounding the church and looted the building for profitable artifacts and antiquities before destroying the remaining parts with explosives…. The Clock Church … became a target of ISIS attacks last year, when its cross was removed.” Although Mosul was once home to about 45 churches, most have either been destroyed or converted into courts or jailhouses since the Islamic State took over in June 2014.

Indonesia: An Islamist group vandalized a new church in Bekasi and demanded that the local mayor cancel its permit. The Santa Clara Church had received its permit in July 2015 and opened this year on March 7. The Islamic Forum Community and other Muslim leaders accused church leaders of acquiring the permit through false means. The mayor of Bekasi denied the allegation and refused to annul the church’s permit. He said it had fulfilled all the legal requirements necessary for construction. “Despite this,” explained the Asian Human Rights Commission, “law enforcement agencies have failed to protect the Santa Clara Church congregants; in fact, it seems the agencies have no will or policy to enforce the law against vigilantes. As a result, the church congregation lives under pressure and intimidation.” The rights group further called upon the local police to “take a strong stance” against the Islamic Forum Community and “ensure that the government guarantees protection to the Santa Clara congregation to practice their religion.”

Algeria: “Churches in Algeria are facing intimidation and harassment, despite constitutional provisions guaranteeing freedom of worship in the country,” noted World Watch Monitor on April 29. That week, authorities claimed that a church in the Kabylie region was ordered to cease all religious activities on the grounds that it was violating a 2006 law that regulated non-Muslim worship. Authorities threatened to commence legal proceedings against the church if Christian worship continued there. Last February, authorities issued a notice to the church in the town of Aït Djima, also in Kabylie, citing the same law. Critics say the 2006 law, which is aimed at regulating all religious worship except Islamic worship, is used as a tool of persecution by the authorities. According to Rev. Haddad, pastor of a Protestant church in the city of Algiers: “It is an unjust law against Christians, who were denied their right to worship and the opportunity to share the Gospel freely…. the situation of Christians in Algeria will not improve until the outright law, which is no longer justified, is repealed.”

Turkey: Six churches were seized by the government in April. After ten months of conflict in the nation’s southeast, the government expropriated huge sections of property in the region’s largest city, Diyarbakir. “But to the dismay of the city’s handful of Christian congregations,” notes a World Watch Monitor report, “this includes all its Orthodox, Catholic and Protestant churches. Unlike the state-funded mosques, Turkey’s ancient church buildings – some of which pre-date Islam – have been managed, historically, by church foundations. The new decision has effectively made the Diyarbakir churches – one 1,700 years old, another built only in 2003 – state property of Turkey, an Islamic country of 75 million.” Few Christian houses of worship remain in Turkey’s southeast. Although it is the ancestral homeland of Syrians and Armenians, well over a million of these ethnic Christians were massacred and sent on death marches during the final years of the Ottoman Empire at the beginning of the 20th century.

Palestinian Territories: In Gaza City, authorities demolished a recently discovered, 1,800-year-old Christian church and its treasured artifacts, despite attempts by Palestinian Christians to save them. Protests failed to win the attention of the international community, including United Nations agencies such as UNESCO, whose mission is to secure the world’s cultural and natural heritage. The ancient church was found in an area where Hamas is planning to build a shopping mall. “The dramatic discovery of the antiquities did not seem to leave an impression on the construction workers, who removed artifacts and continued with their work at the site… Bulldozers were used to destroy some of the church artifacts — a devastation that drew sharp criticism from Palestinian Christians, some of whom rushed to accuse both Hamas and the Palestinian Authority (PA) of copying ISIS tactics in demolishing historic sites,” notes the report. “For Palestinian Christians, the destruction of the church… ruins is yet a further attempt by Palestinian Muslim leaders to efface both Christian history and signs of any Christian presence in the Palestinian territories.”

Muslim Slaughter of Christians

Nigeria: Muslim Fulani herdsmen slaughtered approximately 40 people in a Christian majority village and burned Christ Holy Church International to the ground. Ten homes were razed by arson, cars and motorcycles were destroyed, and animals randomly killed. From his hospital bed a survivor said, “I was coming out from the house when I heard the community bell ringing. I was going with a friend to know what the bell was all about, only to see about 40 Fulani herdsmen armed with sophisticated guns and machetes. They pursued us, killed my friend and shot at me several times but missed. They caught up with me and used machetes on me until I lost consciousness.”

Pakistan: After a Christian man warned local Muslim drug dealers to “stop recruiting young Christians to participate in the sale and consumption of drugs,” two men assaulted him while he was working in the field and “sliced open his throat.” According to local pastor Alfred Azam, “This is not the first incident of persecution of Christians in our village, local Muslims are always creating problems for our Christian community. Before and after our church services Muslim drug dealers swarm around our church trying to sell drugs to our vulnerable youth…” Azam explained that drug pushers regularly beat young Christians and force them to take drugs to try to get them addicted. “When our older men tell these criminals to leave our young people alone they get killed.” As usual, police officials “refused to register a report for the crime or take any action whatsoever.”

Separately, Muslims lynched a Christian, 18-year-old Qaisar Masih, on the accusation that he was romantically involved with a Muslim girl. He was “killed by the girl’s family in an attack led by her father, Mohammad Billa.” They had warned Qaisar not to have anything to do with her and threatened to kill him. According to Qaisar’s sister, he was hanged after being killed to make it look like suicide: “My brother was innocent, he tried not to contact Mehwish [the Muslim girl] but Mehwish said that she cannot live without him… We told her sisters to ask Mehwish to avoid my brother because her father is a criminal and he will kill my brother. But none of our efforts could save my brother.” Qaisar’s mother, Rani Sardar, said: “We all know who killed my son, he was the youngest, he was the apple of my eye and they killed him brutally and hanged him in front of our house. I only demand justice.”

Syria: ISIS militants slaughtered 21 Christian hostages, three of whom were women, in al-Qaryatain. This was discovered after the town was retaken by Russian-backed Syrian forces in April. Some were reportedly killed for violating the terms of their “dhimmi contract,” Islam’s discriminatory body of rules that govern Christian minorities and others. Another five missing Christians were believed to be dead, while many girls are believed to have been sold into sex slavery.

Muslim Attacks on Christian Freedom

(No Apostasy, Blasphemy, or Proselytization)

Uganda: A Muslim man beat and threatened to butcher his wife because of her commitment to Christ. The 38-year-old woman had fled to another village with their four children after he first beat her a year ago upon discovery of her conversion. “My husband shouted, ‘Allah Akbar,’ then he took a blunt object and hit me on my left hand.  I cried for help, and neighbors arrived and saved my life. I then slept at a neighbor’s house with my four children that very night.” Last April she went back to visit her estranged husband to discuss child support. It wasn’t long before the man began again to harass the woman again her faith:  “Again I answered him that Jesus is my Lord and Savior, and he took a panga[machete 16 to 18 inches long], but I managed to get hold of him before he could hit me, so the panga dropped, and he started strangling me. His younger brother woke up and rescued me. I then managed to escape.”  The Muslim man was unrepentant before the judge. “I cannot live with the kafir [infidel] in my house, unless she returns back to my religion. If not, I will not stop hunting for her life, because our Holy Koran allows us to kill any apostate from Islam.”

Kenya: After a Muslim man named Godana converted to Christianity, his life changed for the worse. His troubles began last October, when his wife was hospitalized and treated for an unspecified but deadly illness for three weeks with no signs of recovery. “Soon thereafter,” notes the Morningstar News, “they received a visit from an Evangelist with the Evangelical Christian Church of Africa (ECCA), who prayed for her. His wife was not completely healed, but she was able to go about most of her daily activities, and a week later the couple invited the Evangelist and two other church leaders to their home. The couple decided to become followers of Jesus after talking and giving thanks with the church leaders, and they began meeting at their home for Bible study and prayer.” Soon Muslim neighbors informed Godana’s relatives that the couple had left Islam for Christianity. The same report continues, “Godana’s in-laws began sending him threatening texts: ‘You had a Muslim marriage, so it is against Islam to change your faith,’ one read. ‘If you continue in the Christian faith, we shall come and take our daughter.’ Then, in February, Godana’s in-laws took his wife. A few weeks later, they came and seized his young children as well.  Continues the report:

His own family members are now threatening him. “Your life is at stake if you still hold on to the Christian faith,” one relative told him.  Godana has become depressed under a continuing barrage of text messages from his in-laws, including demands for payment for medical follow-up care, he said. One text read, “We have continued treating our daughter, and now we demand that you pay us the money that we have used for her treatment.”  “I am spending sleepless nights as the pressure from my wife’s family is being directed toward me,” he said. “I am also fearing for my life.”

Turkey: An American Christian evangelist was detained and later released by authorities—but only on order that he leave and never return.  Declaring David Byle “a danger to public order,” authorities in Turkey took him into custody on April 6 after asking him to report to the immigration office in Istanbul regarding his application for a residency permit.  There was no indication of what the “danger to public order” accusation was based on.  Those close to Byle, 46, describe him as being “mild-mannered, polite and calm” and believe that he was detained and ordered deported because of his evangelistic activities.  He was released on April 14 and given a “no-reentry order.”  The arrest took place days before Byle was set to teach a class to a group of Turks on how to tell people about the gospel.

Egypt: An Egyptian Christian, Bishoy Kameel Garas, was finally declared “innocent”— but not before serving more than half of his six-year sentence. Bishoy was jailed in September 2012 for his alleged defamation of Islam. The charges were all connected to a fake Facebook account in his name. Bishoy was imprisoned even though he had posted warnings on his own Facebook page regarding the false account and had alerted cyber police whose subsequent investigation supported his innocence. “The court was besieged by mobs demanding his punishment and even accusing his defense lawyers of blasphemy for defending him.” Although innocent of the defamation charge, he lost his job as a teacher, which left his already impoverished father to pay for his legal fees; and although he spent more than three years of his life in prison, rights activists believe it is highly unlikely he will receive any reparations from the state.

Europe: Muslim migrants who thought they were now free to quit Islam and convert to Christianity continue to “fear murderous Islamic retaliation in Europe.” According to a Breitbart report:

Many migrants who are recent converts to Christianity fear retaliation from Muslims and that converting may become a “death sentence.” One of the more surprising aspects of the migrant crisis has been the number of Muslims from places like Syria and Afghanistan, that have been converting to Christianity in Austrian churches. The Archdioceses of the Austrian capital in Vienna can hardly keep up with the requests as they get five to ten per week. So far this year 83 percent of the recorded adult baptisms into the Catholic faith have been Muslims compared to 2015 when they were only 33 percent, reports Kurier. Muslims who convert and leave Islam face a very real potential for violence and even death. A migrant to Austria who now calls himself Christopher told the Kurier, “this could be my death sentence.” Christopher came to Austria in 2012 and requested that his new Christian name be used because he fears not only reprisal against himself but his family as well.

Dhimmitude

(Contempt, Hostility, and Violence for “Infidels”)

Eritrea: Hundreds of Christians are currently believed to be in Eritrean jails, while tens of thousands have fled the country. According to Christian Today, for more than a decade the regime has been persecuting Christians, who make up roughly half of the population. Many churches have been closed and many Christians have been tortured. Christians who fled from Eritrea and are currently housed in an Ethiopia-based refugee camp revealed some of their experiences:

  • Elsa fled after her sister was beaten to death by prison guards: “We were kept in underground cells. Sometimes the guards put us both in a metal shipping container to torture us. This became so hot during the day and then in the night it became freezing cold. We didn’t get much to eat and there was no medical treatment. The guards offered to let us go, but only if we renounced our faith in Jesus. We said no.” One night the guards took turns beating Elsa and her sister. Recalling that night, Elsa said, “I will never forget hearing the screams of my sister. I never saw her again.”
  • According to a refugee named Dawit, “When I was living in Eritrea I was arrested because of my Christian faith. That’s why I left. In Eritrea almost every Christian faces imprisonment.” He spent more than a month in jail, and later in a hard labor camp. He was tortured and forced to sleep every night with his hands and feet lashed together behind his back.
  • “Dr. Berhane Asmelash, a former prisoner and victim of torture, described prisoners being tied up and hung from trees. One form of hanging is known as the ‘Jesus Christ,’ he said, because the victim looks as though they are on a crucifix.”

Egypt: Another Christian child was kidnapped and later released for a staggering ransom. Anthonius Farag, 13, was abducted from his school on April 5, in the village of Mansheyyit Manbal. His kidnappers released a Muslim child after identifying his religion by his name, but kept the Christian boy. According to the parent of another Christian pupil who was also nearly kidnapped:

My son, Kyrellos, was standing with both fellow pupils Anthonius and Mohamed when one of the kidnappers approached them. [The kidnapper] inquired about their names. They let go of Mohamed, but [because of their Christian names] gripped hold of Kyrellos and Anthonius. My son managed to escape, while other boys started screaming. One of the kidnappers shot rounds in the air to disperse the crowd, as the others quickly pushed Anthonius into the car and fled.

Three days later, the kidnapped boy’s father received a call demanding a ransom of two million Egyptian Pounds—more than $225,000 USD—in return for his son. The father, who received little help from police, eventually managed to get the kidnappers to drop the ransom to 300,000 Egyptian Pounds ($34,000 US)—still more than 300 times an agricultural worker’s monthly wages. It was all that he, a farmer, could raise, taking up a collection from Christians who earned more. After he was released, Anthonius recalled his ordeal, which included beatings and being kept in a dark room blindfolded. This latest case is not isolated. According to records from the Upper Egyptian province of Qena alone, there have been at least 72 cases of kidnappings, extortion and related violence against Christians in the period from 2011 to 2014.

Separately, Dr. Yassir al-Burhami, Egypt’s premier Salafi, was exposed in a video inciting hate for and violence against the nation’s Christians. He also decried giving them their full human and civil rights: “When you cooperate with a criminal, aggressive, oppressive, infidel minority, you attack the rights of the majority [Muslims].”

Pakistan: Two Muslim men invaded the home of a Christian woman while her husband was away serving in the army. After beating her, they tied her arms and legs down to her bed and gang raped her while threatening to slaughter her 2-year-old infant daughter if she did not comply. According to the victim, 30-year-old Asia Mushtaq:

The men treated me like an animal, telling me I was a worthless Christian, but I know my God is a great God. When I screamed they told me that they knew my husband was away and that I was unprotected. They threatened to kill my child if I did not comply with their perverse demands. They said Christian women are all whores and they would come back and repeat their debauchery if I ever told anyone. I feel so unclean now, but have done nothing wrong. I want these men to be punished and hope the law will protect me.

Wilson Chowdhry, chairman of the British Pakistani Christian Association (BPCA), said of the incident:

Another woman finds herself a target of the whims of brutal Muslim rapists in Pakistan, in a society that targets its most vulnerable community: Christians. Furthermore, this time a soldier, whose only desire was to serve and protect his country, has found that the majority of his country do not feel the same way about him. Moreover, the army he serves has offered little or no protection despite threats being made against him and his family. It pains me to say this but the complex acts of betrayal leave me feeling that Christians have no place in Pakistan’s theocratic society.

In a separate incident in April, five Christian girls were kidnapped, converted to Islam, and forced to marry their captors.

Sweden: Christians continue to be persecuted by Muslims in asylums. One Christian was threatened with “slaughter” — having his throat cut — by a self-proclaimed jihadi. According to the same report by Christian Today, “A Pakistani Christian couple moved into a church when the husband’s name was sprayed on a wall near their room calling for his death. A separate group of asylum seekers were forced to leave their accommodation when their harassment escalated.” Patriarch Ignatius Aphrem II, head of the Syriac Orthodox Church, called on Swedish authorities to get involved in the crisis. “This situation does not reflect the culture of the peaceful and loving Swedish people,” he wrote, adding:

Christians do not live in refugee camps in the Middle East, because, there too, they are persecuted by Muslim extremists… To witness that they are once more being persecuted at Swedish asylum accommodations make[s] us very sad. We expect the Swedish Government and the concerned authorities to immediately make sure that these people are safe. A distinct asylum accommodation for Christians and other asylum seekers is essential. We appeal to you to set off such a place and give the word asylum back its true meaning of protection and safety.

In his response, the Director General of the Swedish Migration Board, Anders Danielsson, said that separate housing for Christians and other vulnerable groups “would go against principles and values that are central to Swedish society and our democracy. It would be considered a great failure having to resort to segregation as a measure.”
Patriarch Ignatius Aphrem II and Anders Danielsson, Director General of the Swedish Migration Board, who says that separate housing for persecuted Christians and other vulnerable groups “would go against principles and values that are central to Swedish society and our democracy.”

Sudan: An Egyptian-born Christian monk serving in the African nation was kidnapped. Rev. Ghabrial al-Antony was working on his brother’s farm in Sudan’s Darfur region when three men appeared, tied up his brother, and abducted al-Antony. “We don’t know who they are or why they kidnapped him.”

About this Series

The persecution of Christians in the Islamic world has become endemic.  Accordingly, “Muslim Persecution of Christians” was developed to collate some—by no means all—of the instances of persecution that surface each month. It serves two purposes:

1)          To document that which the mainstream media does not: the habitual, if not chronic, persecution of Christians.

2)          To show that such persecution is not “random,” but systematic and interrelated—that it is rooted in a worldview inspired by Islamic Sharia.

Accordingly, whatever the anecdote of persecution, it typically fits under a specific theme, including hatred for churches and other Christian symbols; apostasy, blasphemy, and proselytism laws that criminalize and sometimes punish with death those who “offend” Islam; sexual abuse of Christian women; forced conversions to Islam;  theft and plunder in lieu of jizya (financial tribute expected from non-Muslims); overall expectations for Christians to behave like cowed dhimmis, or third-class, “tolerated” citizens; and simple violence and murder. Sometimes it is a combination thereof.

Because these accounts of persecution span different ethnicities, languages, and locales—from Morocco in the West, to Indonesia in the East—it should be clear that one thing alone binds them: Islam—whether the strict application of Islamic Sharia law, or the supremacist culture born of it.

Previous Reports:

  • March, 2016
  • February, 2016
  • January, 2016
  • December, 2015
  • November, 2015
  • October, 2015
  • September, 2015
  • August, 2015
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  • December, 2014
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  • March, 2014
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  • May, 2013
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  • February, 2013
  • January, 2013
  • December, 2012
  • November, 2012
  • October, 2012
  • September, 2012 
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Comments

  1. mortimer says

    Jul 22, 2016 at 3:24 pm

    Meanwhile, Western elites allow the greatest religious persecution of our time to go on virtually unopposed.

    Western elites do not realize, they will be next and no Christians will be left to defend them!

    • Christianblood says

      Jul 22, 2016 at 9:49 pm

      In the meantime, pro-islamic and anti-christian America resettles thousands of Syrian muslims in May and June this year while denying the same help for the persecuted Christians in that region. Check it out here:

      https://www.jihadwatch.org/2016/06/1037-Syrian-refugees-admitted-in-may-two-christians-1035-muslims

      And here:

      https://www.jihadwatch.org/2016/07/u-s-takes-record-number-of-syrian-refugees-in-june-99-muslims-only-8-christians

      Islam-favoring and pro-jihadist America which gives huge amount of arms to various islamic jihadist groups in Syria, including those who beheaded a child on video a few days ago are so far refusing to arm the only Christian self-defence militia who are ready to protect their villages from the jihadists. Read more on the link below: Shame on America!

      http://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/260821/dc-refuses-arm-persecuted-christians-fighting-isis-raymond-ibrahim

      • Angemon says

        Jul 23, 2016 at 1:13 pm

        Christianblood posted:

        “In the meantime, pro-islamic and anti-christian America resettles thousands of Syrian muslims in May and June this year while denying the same help for the persecuted Christians in that region”

        This is a strange claim seeing how “Christianblood”, when asked about why his Russian paymasters weren’t taking in Syrian Christians, replied that they did not want to uproot the Syrian Christian community from Syria – CB simultaneously wants Syrian Christians to stay in Syria while excoriating the US for not taking in Syrian Christians in their territory.

        Plus, CB was already explained, in more than one occasion, that the OIC is responsible for he shortage of Christians who apply for refuge in the West – of course, this makes no difference to him, since he’s paid to denigrate the West (and especially the US), not to have a honest, fact based, frank discussion on the subject.

        • Ex-muslim says

          Jul 23, 2016 at 1:55 pm

          Angemon says

          “CB was already explained, in more than one occasion, that the OIC is responsible for he shortage of Christians who apply for refuge in the West”

          NONSENSE!!!!!! OIC HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH REFUGEE RESSTELMENT PROGRAMS. REFUGEE RESSTLEMNT PROGRAMS IS DECIDED BY THE UNHCR AND THE HOST COUNTRIES.PERIOD.

          US resettles muslims but discriminates against Christians because US refugee policies are set up in such a way that they be that way! Pro muslim and anti-Christian! And by the way, this happening all over the West and (CB) is 100% right!

        • Angemon says

          Jul 23, 2016 at 2:38 pm

          Ex-muslim, whose presence in JW is mostly dedicated to echoing CB’s claims, posted:

          “NONSENSE!!!!!! OIC HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH REFUGEE RESSTELMENT PROGRAMS. ”

          You’ve been explained this before. The UN decides who is a refugee and who isn’t, and who gets sent where. The OIC is the largest voting block in the UN. I’d ask you if you’re starting to connect the dots, but your goal here is to be CB’s deranged echo, so a frank and honest discussion is off the table.

          http://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/why-is-un-using-islamist-group-to-resettle-syrian-refugees-in-the-us/

          The UNHCR is working “hand in hand” with an international Islamist group of 57 Muslim nations — the Organization of Islamic Cooperation — whose founding charter seeks to propagate “legitimate jihad” and “the norms of Islamic Shari’ah.” Saudi-based OIC, in fact, is tied to the radical Muslim Brotherhood.

          “We are delighted to work … with the OIC,” said U.N. High Commissioner for Refugees Antonio Guterres.

          So it’s really the U.N. and radical Islamists who are choosing your new Muslim neighbors.

          “REFUGEE RESSTLEMNT PROGRAMS IS DECIDED BY THE UNHCR AND THE HOST COUNTRIES.PERIOD. ”

          See above – it’s up to the UN, where the OIC is the largest voting block, to decide who’s a refugee and who isn’t. Why would the OIC send Christians to the US instead of spreading islam by sending muslims?

        • Ex-muslim says

          Jul 23, 2016 at 2:44 pm

          @ Angemon

          “Resettlement is the transfer of refugees from an asylum country to another State that has AGREED to admit them and ultimately grant them permanent settlement”.

          Read more of it below and understand that there is absolutely NO OIC involvement in this process: http://www.unhcr.org/resettlement.html

        • Angemon says

          Jul 23, 2016 at 3:48 pm

          Ex-muslim posted:

          “@ Angemon

          “Resettlement is the transfer of refugees from an asylum country to another State that has AGREED to admit them and ultimately grant them permanent settlement”.”

          Sand tossing, as expected – quoting the dictionary definition of resettlement tells us nothing about the topic at hand. Who decides who is a refugee or not? The UN – where the OIC is the largest voting block.

          “Read more of it below and understand that there is absolutely NO OIC involvement in this process”

          Citation needed. Oh, and the link you provided? Have you read it? You haven’t? Here’s an excerpt:

          In 2015, UNHCR submitted the files of over 134,000 refugees for consideration by resettlement countries. By nationality, the main beneficiaries of UNHCR-facilitated resettlement programmes were refugees from Syrian Arab Republic (53,305), The Democratic Republic of the Congo (20,527), Iraq (11,161) and Somalia (10,193). In addition, 24 per cent of all submissions were Survivors of Violence and Torture which is the highest percentage of the last six years.

          Departures have increased as well during the course of 2015 where 81,000 individuals departed to resettlement countries with UNHCR’s assistance. The largest number of refugees left from Malaysia (12,547), followed by Turkey (7,577), Lebanon (7,109), Nepal (6,646) and Thailand (6,716).

          Notice that those are mostly *muslim* majority countries. No, I *gave* you a quotation from António Guterres, the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees, which you’d find in the very website you linked to if you were willing to engage in a honest conversation.

          http://www.unhcr.org/admin/hcspeeches/4fb270979/oic-ministerial-conference-refugees-muslim-world-opening-remarks-mr-antonio.html

          Some excerpts from that link, which contains the opening remark of the “OIC Ministerial Conference on Refugees in the Muslim World”:

          it is with great pleasure that I join you today as a co-organiser of this historic conference with the Organisation of Islamic Cooperation and the Government of Turkmenistan, to discuss refugees in the Muslim World.

          As United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees, I greatly value the close cooperation we enjoy with the OIC and its member States. That our strong cooperation is crucial is clear from the realities of displacement in today’s world.

          In 2011, the 57 OIC States hosted 50% of the persons who are of concern to UNHCR, some

          17.6 million in total, comprising not only refugees, but also asylum-seekers, returnees, internally displaced persons and stateless people. But this is only part of the story. The proportion of refugees in the Muslim world is, of course, much higher, some 68%, when one adds the Palestinian refugees in territories under UNRWA’s mandate.

          (…)

          As the norms subsequently codified in international refugee law are found in Islamic law, so are they present in the work of the OIC. Indeed, Article 12 of the Declaration on Human Rights in Islam, adopted by the OIC in 1990, provides that: “every human being … if persecuted is entitled to seek asylum in another country. The country of refuge shall ensure his protection until his safety has been attained … ” We are delighted to work hand in hand with the OIC.

          Had enough or do you think your ass can take another pounding?

        • Christianblood says

          Jul 23, 2016 at 6:03 pm

          Angemon

          What “Ex-muslim” wrote above is not a dictionary definition of the word resettlement but he directly quoted from UNHCR website he provided you above and you can see it your self. Read it again in the second paragraph in which it reads and I quote: “Resettlement is the transfer of refugees from an asylum country to another State that has AGREED to admit them and ultimately grant them permanent settlement”…(Thank you Ex-muslim!)

          On the other hand, OIC has nothing to do with UN resettlement programs OIC is an islamic organizations formed by muslim countries to look after islamic affairs and it is NOT A REFUGEE AGENCY and the website you provided above is some’s ideas and theories about OIC and not and official document of the UNHCR.

          Resettlement program is between UNHCR who gives quotas of refugees to a number of countries and then the refugee resettling countries accept what they want and reject what they don’t want. You can read it even on the wikipedia page that I provided you below which says and I quote:

          “Resettlement involves the selection and transfer of refugees from a State in which they have sought protection to a third State which has AGREED to admit them”.

          OIC has NO link or influence whatsoever on this, and UNHCR cannot force and has NO authority to force on any country to resettle refugee they are not willing to take. You can make an independent research and look that up your self if you want. The obvious reason that America and the West are eager to resettle muslim refugee but denying Christians that same privilege is that they hate Christians and love muslims and I know this Angemon and I researched this for years and years. Remember, the Pope Francis visiting a refugee camp in the ME a few months ago washing and kissing some muslim feet and then taking 12 muslim refugee with him to the Rome for resettlement program there and the Pope did that without including a single Christian refugee in that muslim group! Why do you think the Pope did that Angemon? Do you remember that? Why do you think the Pope did that? Can you rationalize this for me? The same spirit of hating Christians but loving and favoring muslims is working in the hearts and in the minds of ALL Western leaders be they political, social or religious and even the Pope is suffering from the same inner hatred and prejudiced attitudes towards Christians. Again, I know what I am talking about because I researched and studied this for years and years.

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_country_resettlement

        • Angemon says

          Jul 23, 2016 at 7:02 pm

          Christianblood posted:

          “Angemon

          What “Ex-muslim” wrote above is not a dictionary definition of the word resettlement but he directly quoted from UNHCR website he provided you above and you can see it your self. Read it again in the second paragraph in which it reads and I quote: “Resettlement is the transfer of refugees from an asylum country to another State that has AGREED to admit them and ultimately grant them permanent settlement”…”

          Then it’s utterly useless, isn’t it? I mean, other than to the point he was trying to make – you can’t go and say “oh, this word doesn’t mean such and such, it means something entirely different”.

          What is the dictionary definition then?

          “On the other hand, OIC has nothing to do with UN resettlement programs OIC is an islamic organizations formed by muslim countries to look after islamic affairs and it is NOT A REFUGEE AGENCY and the website you provided above is some’s ideas and theories about OIC and not and official document of the UNHCR. ”

          Again – and this is from the website you and your echo are flaunting:

          it is with great pleasure that I join you today as a co-organiser of this historic conference with the Organisation of Islamic Cooperation and the Government of Turkmenistan, to discuss refugees in the Muslim World.

          As United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees, I greatly value the close cooperation we enjoy with the OIC and its member States. That our strong cooperation is crucial is clear from the realities of displacement in today’s world.

          In 2011, the 57 OIC States hosted 50% of the persons who are of concern to UNHCR, some

          17.6 million in total, comprising not only refugees, but also asylum-seekers, returnees, internally displaced persons and stateless people. But this is only part of the story. The proportion of refugees in the Muslim world is, of course, much higher, some 68%, when one adds the Palestinian refugees in territories under UNRWA’s mandate.

          (…)

          As the norms subsequently codified in international refugee law are found in Islamic law, so are they present in the work of the OIC. Indeed, Article 12 of the Declaration on Human Rights in Islam, adopted by the OIC in 1990, provides that: “every human being … if persecuted is entitled to seek asylum in another country. The country of refuge shall ensure his protection until his safety has been attained … ” We are delighted to work hand in hand with the OIC.

          Still trying to deny the OIC is balls deep into deciding who’s a refugee and who isn’t, and who gets sent where? Of course – like I said, this makes no difference to you, since you’re paid to denigrate the West (and especially the US), not to have a honest, fact based, frank discussion on the subject.

          “Resettlement program is between UNHCR who gives quotas of refugees to a number of countries and then the refugee resettling countries accept what they want and reject what they don’t want. ”

          More sand tossing. What in there excludes the OIC block from meddling and prioritizing muslims, if not outright exclude non-muslims? Nothing, of course – I quoted the U.N. High Commissioner for Refugees stating that the UN is delighted to work with the OIC, and yet you’re completely disregarding it. Why? Because, like I said, this makes no difference to you, since you’re paid to denigrate the West (and especially the US), not to have a honest, fact based, frank discussion on the subject.

          “OIC has NO link or influence whatsoever on this, ”

          You write this, presumably with a serious face, and expect to be takes seriously, even though I proved, from the site your echo brought up, that the UN is working with the OIC? Of course – your goal is to do repeat a lie long enough to see if people believe it, much like Goebbels described. Like I said, facts make no difference to you, since you’re paid to denigrate the West (and especially the US), not to have a honest, fact based, frank discussion on the subject. You’re in full damage-control mode – gotta repeat over and over the lie that the OIC has no saying in the process.

          “The obvious reason that America and the West are eager to resettle muslim refugee but denying Christians that same privilege is that they hate Christians and love muslims and I know this”

          Oh, you just know – despite the *facts* I threw in your way that say you’re wrong, you just *know* you’re right, eh?

          “Angemon and I researched this for years and years. ”

          This is a blatant *LIE* I was NOT involved in any activity with this lying sack of crap naming himself “Christianblood”, let alone one that allegedly took years and whose conclusions can be easily debunked with nothing but the site his echo brought up. If you claim that we spent years researching something, you need to prove it. But even without the attempt to validate his blatantly false claim by trying to link it to me, isn’t it odd that he can’t bring up any evidence after all these alleged “years and years” of research? Why, it’s almost as if he decided to say he researched the issue years and years to try to pass his blatantly false claim as legitimate!

          The remainder of the post is more of the same – defending the OIC and pretending they are not involved balls deep in the UN refugee resettlement program. I’ll just quote the UN High Commissioner for Refugees again:

          As United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees, I greatly value the close cooperation we enjoy with the OIC and its member States. That our strong cooperation is crucial is clear from the realities of displacement in today’s world.

          In 2011, the 57 OIC States hosted 50% of the persons who are of concern to UNHCR, some

          17.6 million in total, comprising not only refugees, but also asylum-seekers, returnees, internally displaced persons and stateless people. But this is only part of the story. The proportion of refugees in the Muslim world is, of course, much higher, some 68%, when one adds the Palestinian refugees in territories under UNRWA’s mandate.

          And yet, CB and EM would have us believe that the UN and the OIC have nothing to do with deciding who is considered a refugee and gets sent where. Also, I’ll reiterate the pretzel CB twisted himself into: he both wants the Christians in Syria to remain in Syria while chastising the US for not taking in Syrian Christians.

        • Angemon says

          Jul 23, 2016 at 7:09 pm

          P.S.: A wikipedia link? That’s all you have to show after your alleged “years and years” of research? Lol!!! Glorious exposition, comrade!

          http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/091/649/a35.jpg

        • Christianblood says

          Jul 23, 2016 at 8:31 pm

          Angemon

          Are you now telling me that OIC (Organizations of Islamic Cooperation) decides who gets refugee resettlement status in the US, Canada, and Australia??? Are you serious? This is one of the craziest and the most stupid conspiracy theory that I have heard!

          And why did the Pope took a group of dozen muslim refugees to Rome while ignoring the Christian refugee who were in the same camp? Is the Pope also controlled by the OIC? If not why did he took only muslim refugee to Rome while ignoring Christians?

          And what about America refusing to arm Christian self-defence militia while at the same it constantly arms islamic jihadists fighting in Syria? Is the US government also run by the OIC?

          http://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/260821/dc-refuses-arm-persecuted-christians-fighting-isis-raymond-ibrahim

        • Angemon says

          Jul 23, 2016 at 9:10 pm

          The Russian troll paid to spread anti-Western propaganda posted:

          “Angemon

          Are you now telling me that OIC (Organizations of Islamic Cooperation) decides who gets refugee resettlement status in the US, Canada, and Australia??? Are you serious? This is one of the craziest and the most stupid conspiracy theory that I have heard!”

          Oh, you don’t read what you post? Like when you claimed that the US trained tens of thousands of people with the specific goal to kill Christians in the ME? Or your rants about the West wanting to invade Russia? Or when you claimed that the West supported the German invasion of Russia in WWII? Glass roof, throw stones, etc.

          Anyway, I’ve provided you with info straight out of the site you and CB quoted from. You can’t deny it:

          it is with great pleasure that I join you today as a co-organiser of this historic conference with the Organisation of Islamic Cooperation and the Government of Turkmenistan, to discuss refugees in the Muslim World.

          As United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees, I greatly value the close cooperation we enjoy with the OIC and its member States. That our strong cooperation is crucial is clear from the realities of displacement in today’s world.

          In 2011, the 57 OIC States hosted 50% of the persons who are of concern to UNHCR, some

          17.6 million in total, comprising not only refugees, but also asylum-seekers, returnees, internally displaced persons and stateless people. But this is only part of the story. The proportion of refugees in the Muslim world is, of course, much higher, some 68%, when one adds the Palestinian refugees in territories under UNRWA’s mandate.

          (…)

          As the norms subsequently codified in international refugee law are found in Islamic law, so are they present in the work of the OIC. Indeed, Article 12 of the Declaration on Human Rights in Islam, adopted by the OIC in 1990, provides that: “every human being … if persecuted is entitled to seek asylum in another country. The country of refuge shall ensure his protection until his safety has been attained … ” We are delighted to work hand in hand with the OIC.

          Are you still going to try to deny that the OIC is balls deep in the process of deciding who’s a refugee and gets sent where? Of course you are – you’re a troll paid to spread anti-Western propaganda, but this info is NOT meant to make you change your mind since it would be impossible by definition. It’s meant to let others know how to counter and rebut your anti-West (especially anti-West) propaganda.

          “And why did the Pope took a group of dozen muslim refugees to Rome while ignoring the Christian refugee who were in the same camp? Is the Pope also controlled by the OIC? If not why did he took only muslim refugee to Rome while ignoring Christians?”

          Not sure why you think that I’m privy to whatever it is the Pope does. I’ll only ask this: where did he get the refugees from? Could it be from a refugee camp in an OIC nation?

        • Christianblood says

          Jul 23, 2016 at 9:26 pm

          Angemon

          Okay, let us, for now, follow your line that OIC, not the UNHCR, runs refugee resettlement program at the UN and let us give America and the West a good excuse and say that is the fault of the OIC and it is because of this reason America and the West are taking in thousands of muslim refugee into their countries every month while refusing to give attention to Christian refugees in the same region.Okay. What about this Angemon:

          Why did the Pope took a group of dozen muslim refugees to Rome while ignoring the Christian refugee who were in the same camp? Is the Pope also controlled by the OIC? If not why did he took only muslim refugee to Rome while ignoring Christians?

          And what about America refusing to arm Christian self-defence militia while at the same it constantly arms islamic jihadists fighting in Syria? Is the US government also run by the OIC?

          http://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/260821/dc-refuses-arm-persecuted-christians-fighting-isis-raymond-ibrahim

          PS: I am asking those two questions for a third time and I will pause for your great response!

        • Angemon says

          Jul 23, 2016 at 9:40 pm

          Christianblood posted:

          “Angemon

          Okay, let us, for now, follow your line that OIC, not the UNHCR, runs refugee resettlement program at the UN”

          Liar. That’s not what I said, was it? Boy, you must be really desperate to resort to such blatant strawmen. Whatever info you’re trying to derive from that is, like the source, false.

          “Why did the Pope took a group of dozen muslim refugees to Rome while ignoring the Christian refugee who were in the same camp?”

          *yawn*

          I’ll just copy/paste from my previous post, where I addressed this. It’s obvious that the troll paid to spread anti-Western propaganda is simply trying to repeat a falsehood and trying to discredit the OIC influence in the UN – because, of course, if the Pope is not influenced by the OIC then the UN must not be too, right? It’s the same “logic” (and I’m using that word in a very, very loose way here) behind “if we landed on the Moon why can’t we land on the Sun?”. Anyway:

          Not sure why you think that I’m privy to whatever it is the Pope does. I’ll only ask this: where did he get the refugees from? Could it be from a refugee camp in an OIC nation?

          “PS: I am asking those two questions for a third time and I will pause for your great response!”

          Considering that you completely ignored what I wrote, by “pause for” you must mean “ignore”.

          Again:

          http://www.unhcr.org/admin/hcspeeches/4fb270979/oic-ministerial-conference-refugees-muslim-world-opening-remarks-mr-antonio.html

          Some excerpts from that link, which contains the opening remark of the “OIC Ministerial Conference on Refugees in the Muslim World”:

          it is with great pleasure that I join you today as a co-organiser of this historic conference with the Organisation of Islamic Cooperation and the Government of Turkmenistan, to discuss refugees in the Muslim World.

          As United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees, I greatly value the close cooperation we enjoy with the OIC and its member States. That our strong cooperation is crucial is clear from the realities of displacement in today’s world.

          In 2011, the 57 OIC States hosted 50% of the persons who are of concern to UNHCR, some

          17.6 million in total, comprising not only refugees, but also asylum-seekers, returnees, internally displaced persons and stateless people. But this is only part of the story. The proportion of refugees in the Muslim world is, of course, much higher, some 68%, when one adds the Palestinian refugees in territories under UNRWA’s mandate.

          (…)

          As the norms subsequently codified in international refugee law are found in Islamic law, so are they present in the work of the OIC. Indeed, Article 12 of the Declaration on Human Rights in Islam, adopted by the OIC in 1990, provides that: “every human being … if persecuted is entitled to seek asylum in another country. The country of refuge shall ensure his protection until his safety has been attained … ” We are delighted to work hand in hand with the OIC.

          Since you, despite all your alleged “years and years” of “research”, can’t produce any evidence to the contrary, you’re trying to ridicule the facts by trying to conflate them with independent entities – why, if the Pope and the American government aren’t influenced by the OIC then why would the UN be? Do you really think your moronic “logic” will convince anyone? No, the facts are on my side. But keep dancing, little monkey – keep trying to spin the unspinnable. And when you’re done dancing, explain me how you want to both keep Syrian Christians in Syria AND have them taken in by the US. The cognitive dissonance must be wrecking your brain beyond any repair.

        • Christianblood says

          Jul 23, 2016 at 10:06 pm

          Angemon

          I got your point now. It is all OIC’s responsibility. It is OIC’s responsibility that thousands of muslims are being resettled in the US each month while Christians are denied the same opportunity. It is OIC’s responsibility that US is arming muslim jihadists in Syria and elsewhere while it refuses to arm the only self-defense Christian militia in the region. It is OIC’s responsibility that even the Pope went to a refugee camp in Jordan, washed and kissed the feet of muslim refugee and took a dozen of them in his own plane to be resettled in Italy while he (the Pope) refused to include a single Christian in this group of muslim refugee that he took to Italy in his plane. It is ALL OIC’s responsibility. End of Story! Thanks for enlightening me, Angemon! You got it all right!

        • Angemon says

          Jul 23, 2016 at 10:21 pm

          Christianblood posted:

          “Angemon

          I got your point now.”

          I can say from the get go this’ll be another strawman and that I have never said whatever it is he’ll try to ascribe me

          “It is all OIC’s responsibility. It is OIC’s responsibility that thousands of muslims are being resettled in the US each month while Christians are denied the same opportunity. It is OIC’s responsibility that US is arming muslim jihadists in Syria and elsewhere while it refuses to arm the only self-defense Christian militia in the region. It is OIC’s responsibility that even the Pope went to a refugee camp in Jordan, washed and kissed the feet of muslim refugee and took a dozen of them in his own plane to be resettled in Italy while he (the Pope) refused to include a single Christian in this group of muslim refugee that he took to Italy in his plane. It is ALL OIC’s responsibility. End of Story! Thanks for enlightening me, Angemon! You got it all right!”

          Called it – the paid troll can’t counter the facts I threw his way and that thoroughly obliterated his little narrative, so he’s trying to conflate the UN, the Pope and the American government so he can ridicule the fact-based notion that the OIC gets to control who is deemed a refugee or not and who gets sent where:

          https://www.jihadwatch.org/2016/07/raymond-ibrahim-worthless-christians-treated-like-animals#comment-1486500

          Angemon says

          July 23, 2016 at 9:40 pm

          …Since you, despite all your alleged “years and years” of “research”, can’t produce any evidence to the contrary, you’re trying to ridicule the facts by trying to conflate them with independent entities – why, if the Pope and the American government aren’t influenced by the OIC then why would the UN be?

          And, of course, no mention or explanation of his belief that Syrian Christians are to remain in Syria but that the US must take in Syrian Christians. Curious, isn’t it?

        • Christianblood says

          Jul 23, 2016 at 10:30 pm

          Angemon

          Recently the U.S. State Dept. Invited Muslim Leaders To Talk About The Problem of Islamic Terrorism But State Dept Denied Christians Representatives To Even Get Visas To Attend The Event. You can read the story below and I would appreciate your answer as to why State Dept invited only muslims but denied Christians to participate??? Read more of this below:

          http://www.raymondibrahim.com/muslim-persecution-of-christians/u-s-state-dept-invites-muslim-leaders-denies-christians/

        • Angemon says

          Jul 24, 2016 at 6:10 am

          So the troll beat a hasty retreat on the subject of the UN and the OIC and is now trying to rehash old materisl:

          “Angemon

          Recently the U.S. State Dept. Invited Muslim Leaders To Talk About The Problem of Islamic Terrorism But State Dept Denied Christians Representatives To Even Get Visas To Attend The Event. ”

          “Recently”? You mean, may 2015 – copy/pasting the title of an article and preceding it with “recently” doesn’t mean it’s actually recent, you know.

          Anyway, can you explain me your belief that Syrian Christians are to remain in Syria but that the US must take in Syrian Christians? How does that work? How can you keep Christians in Syria while at the same time sending them the US, which is what you want to do?

        • Christianblood says

          Jul 23, 2016 at 10:34 pm

          Angemon

          Also US State Dept. refused any sort of assistance to Iraqi Christians. Read it below and please let me know of this was also caused by OIC? http://aina.org/news/20150517142153.htm

        • Angemon says

          Jul 24, 2016 at 6:13 am

          The troll posted:

          “let me know of this was also caused by OIC? ”

          Ah, so your last was just a feint – you’re still butthurt about the pounding you took regarding the UN and OIC and you’re still trying to discredit by trying to conflate it to something else, like I predicted you were trying to do.
          Here, read it again:

          http://www.unhcr.org/admin/hcspeeches/4fb270979/oic-ministerial-conference-refugees-muslim-world-opening-remarks-mr-antonio.html

          In 2011, the 57 OIC States hosted 50% of the persons who are of concern to UNHCR, some

          17.6 million in total, comprising not only refugees, but also asylum-seekers, returnees, internally displaced persons and stateless people. But this is only part of the story. The proportion of refugees in the Muslim world is, of course, much higher, some 68%, when one adds the Palestinian refugees in territories under UNRWA’s mandate.

          http://www.unhcr.org/resettlement.html

          In 2015, UNHCR submitted the files of over 134,000 refugees for consideration by resettlement countries. By nationality, the main beneficiaries of UNHCR-facilitated resettlement programmes were refugees from Syrian Arab Republic (53,305), The Democratic Republic of the Congo (20,527), Iraq (11,161) and Somalia (10,193). In addition, 24 per cent of all submissions were Survivors of Violence and Torture which is the highest percentage of the last six years.

          Departures have increased as well during the course of 2015 where 81,000 individuals departed to resettlement countries with UNHCR’s assistance. The largest number of refugees left from Malaysia (12,547), followed by Turkey (7,577), Lebanon (7,109), Nepal (6,646) and Thailand (6,716).

          Notice a trend there? Mostly muslim-majority countries. Gee, I wonder what religion are the workers in refugees camps that are located in muslim-majority countries, and what religion are the bulk of people staying in those camps…

    • Bob says

      Jul 23, 2016 at 7:37 am

      The UN & ‘Security Council’ are curiously silent on the anti-Christian riots & slaughter. They’re clearly on the side of the death cult!

      • Christianblood says

        Jul 23, 2016 at 8:54 pm

        Bob posted

        (..The UN & ‘Security Council’ are curiously silent on the anti-Christian riots & slaughter. They’re clearly on the side of the death cult!..)

        Forget about the UN, USA is the biggest funder of the UN which is headquartered in New York and USA is not only silent on the persecution of Christians in the islamic world but the USA is directly responsible for the persecution of Christians in the islamic world by funding and arming the jihadists that are killing Christians, anf for overthrowing and regime-changing and deposing the dictators who protected Christians such as Saddam Hussein, Qaddafi and Assad. For example, when Saddam ruled Iraq there close to two million Christians in Iraq safe and flourishing and today less than 200,000 remain mostly in the Kurdish areas

        Not only that, U.S. State Dept. Bars Christians from Testifying about Persecution they are facing in the ME. Click below to read more of this:

        http://www.jihadwatch.org/2015/07/raymond-ibrahim-u-s-state-dept-bars-christians-from-testifying-about-persecution

        Let alone US government but even U.S. Christian Groups Support Muslim Refugees while totally ignoring Persecuted Christians worldwide. Read more of this below:

        http://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/261302/us-christian-groups-support-muslim-refugees-ignore-raymond-ibrahim

        • Angemon says

          Jul 23, 2016 at 9:14 pm

          Christianblood posted:

          “Forget about the UN, USA is the biggest funder of the UN”

          So which way is it? “Forget about the UN” or “USA is the biggest funder of the UN”? You can’t have it both ways, you know?

          And it’s not “forget the UN”, it’s “the largest voting block in the UN is the OIC”.

        • Angemon says

          Jul 23, 2016 at 9:17 pm

          Christianblood posted:

          “ the dictators who protected Christians such as Saddam Hussein, Qaddafi and Assad.”

          Unless, of course, the Christians happened to be Kurds wanting a sliver of land to build a nation of their own. But I guess CB is fine with dictators gassing Kurdish Christians as long as they “protect” Christians, paradoxical as that may sound…

        • gravenimage says

          Jul 23, 2016 at 9:19 pm

          “Christianblood” wrote:

          ….the USA is directly responsible for the persecution of Christians in the islamic world….
          ……………………….

          Despite the reams of bs from “Christianblood”, this is the core of his assertions here. Homicidal Islam is not a concern, but the evil Americans (somehow) hate Christians and are mass murdering them all over the world. *Ugh*.

        • Christianblood says

          Jul 23, 2016 at 9:33 pm

          Angemon posted

          (..CB is fine with dictators gassing Kurdish Christians as long as they “protect” Christians, paradoxical as that may sound..)

          Christians, not the Kurds, are the most persecuted group in the world today. At least 100.000 Christians are being murdered for their faith around the globe annually:

          http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2332338/100-000-Christians-killed-year-faith-says-Vatican-archbishop-Monsignor-Silvano-Maria-Tomasi-Iran-shuts-countrys-biggest-Pentecostal-church-arrests-pastor-mid-service.html

        • Angemon says

          Jul 23, 2016 at 9:41 pm

          Christianblood posted:

          “Christians, not the Kurds”

          Oh, look, another moron who can’t tell the difference between race and religion. Answer me this, CB: are there Kurdish Christians or not? And how did Kurdish Christians fared under Saddam or Assad?

        • Christianblood says

          Jul 23, 2016 at 9:36 pm

          Angemon

          I have nothing bad to say about the Kurdish people but they are not Christians. Kurdish people are almost 99% Sunni muslims!

        • Angemon says

          Jul 23, 2016 at 9:44 pm

          Christianblood posted:

          “Angemon

          I have nothing bad to say about the Kurdish people but they are not Christians.”

          And boom goes the dynamite. “Christianblood”, who raves and rants like a lunatic, claiming to defend the Christians in the Middle East, just decided that Kurdish Christians do not exist – he wiped them off the map because of their religion. Isn’t that genocide?

        • Christianblood says

          Jul 23, 2016 at 10:12 pm

          Angemon

          Kurds are mostly Sunni muslims and although there can be a few Kurdish individuals who converted from islam to Christianity, Kurds have always been Sunni muslims but for Kurds in the region their ethnicity and nationalism have traditionally been more important for them than islamic faith.

        • Angemon says

          Jul 23, 2016 at 10:21 pm

          Christianblood posted:

          “although there can be a few Kurdish individuals who converted from islam to Christianity”

          Whom, according to you, have no rights whatsoever – you tried to deny they existed. Where was your outrage when Saddam gassed them? Nowhere, of course – as I’ve demonstrated before, you’re a ghoul – you only care about the suffering of Christians when you can use it to denigrate the West, especially the US. Because that’s your bread and butter – literally.

        • gravenimage says

          Jul 24, 2016 at 12:18 am

          With all of his links, “Christianblood” is trying to use the civilized Judeo-Christian value of self-criticism as a cudgel against us.

          If we actually criticize our own nation’s policies, surely it means we are so depraved that we deserve to be conquered by Islam–something he has agreed with many times.

          And even if he cares nothing for Western Christians since most of them are not Eastern Orthodox, how he thinks the fall of the West to Islam would actually *aid* Christians worldwide is anyone’s guess. I can think of nothing that would so embolden Muslim supremacists.

    • Simone Fields says

      Jul 24, 2016 at 8:26 am

      Wow, something that got my eyebrows raising instead of feeling like I’m drowning in all this depressing avalanche……..”One of the more surprising aspects of the migrant crisis has been the number of Muslims from places like Syria and Afghanistan, that have been converting to Christianity in Austrian churches. The Archdioceses of the Austrian capital in Vienna can hardly keep up with the requests as they get five to ten per week. So far this year 83 percent of the recorded adult baptisms into the Catholic faith have been Muslims compared to 2015 when they were only 33 percent, reports Kurier. Muslims who convert and leave Islam face a very real potential for violence and even death”

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    Donald Trump Exposes CHRISTIAN GENOCIDE and defends Christians – PLEASE SHARE

    • Jerry says

      Jul 22, 2016 at 8:41 pm

      In a way Trump is a hero, he had the guts to speak the untarnished truth while all the rest lied, evaded, and appeased. Courage for truth and good intentions are what I want in a president. Trump has shown he is unwilling to appease islam by putting political correctness above our nation’s values and security. And unless I have evidence to the contrary I believe he’ll apply that same courage and dedication to our country in everything he does as president. That’s why I’m voting for Trump.

      • Champ says

        Jul 22, 2016 at 8:59 pm

        I believe he’ll apply that same courage and dedication to our country in everything he does as president.

        ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

        Of course …

        But in case you haven’t noticed, this thread is about **Christian genocide**; and when Donald Trump addresses another topic that will probably come up on another thread, then I will post a video about that topic, too.

        • Jerry says

          Jul 22, 2016 at 10:05 pm

          Maybe you should change your name to “Chimp,” that way others know what to expect. 😉

        • Champ says

          Jul 22, 2016 at 10:11 pm

          No, I’m sticking with Champ …

          Howeverer you ought to change your moniker to something that suites your lack of character and decency.

        • Jerry says

          Jul 23, 2016 at 7:53 am

          “…your lack of character and decency.”

          I’m not the one holding a grudge like a 4 year old because someone disagreed with me a month ago. Can’t say the same about you. Good luck getting over your Christian self.

        • Angemon says

          Jul 23, 2016 at 2:40 pm

          Jerry posted:

          “I’m not the one holding a grudge like a 4 year old because someone disagreed with me a month ago.”

          From this end, that’s exactly what you’re doing. Champ politely asked you to stay on topic. You suggested Champ should change her moniker to “Chimp” for no apparent reason than knowing Champ is Christian.

        • Champ says

          Jul 23, 2016 at 2:01 pm

          Holding a grudge? Oh please. Clearly “jerry” is projecting since he’s the one engaging in silly name calling.

        • Champ says

          Jul 23, 2016 at 2:08 pm

          Oh and “jerry” is CLEARLY projecting here, he called me a “4 year old”?

          LOL!!!!!!!!! …now THAT is funny.

          I’m not the one resorting to childish name calling …

          And “jerry” needs to get over himself. Wow, what an ego.

          Hey “jerry”, what do you think about **Christian genocide**? You know, the subject of this thread. Anything to say about THAT? Apparently not.

          Get a mirror “jerry”, you are the one holding a grudge.

        • Champ says

          Jul 23, 2016 at 2:45 pm

          Thank you, Angemon, and that’s how I see things, too.

        • Jay Boo says

          Jul 23, 2016 at 6:26 pm

          Oh what a tangled Jerry web

          At first glance it appears that clever Jerry is merely innocently offering an opinion about Trump from a friendly secular viewpoint. That would be reasonable enough. But of course Jerry in replying has a whole different agenda and instead of posting a separate comment with an off topic disclaimer he chasers after Champ and plays innocent. He gave his game away when he mentioned old comments.

        • Jay Boo says

          Jul 23, 2016 at 6:37 pm

          Great video about the fate of Christians under Obama/Hillary legacy, Champ

          Hillary ironically talks about “shaming”
          Obama is a disgrace
          Head-bump Hillary is a disgrace

          Muslims should be ashamed, but they are not.
          Muhammad is their example.
          Muhammad was a disgrace.
          All Muslims are a disgrace.
          They truly are.

        • Champ says

          Jul 23, 2016 at 6:51 pm

          Jay Boo, I’m glad that you appreciated the video and it’s message from Donald Trump. I’m voting for him in November!

          And you wrote:

          “At first glance it appears that clever Jerry is merely innocently offering an opinion about Trump from a friendly secular viewpoint. That would be reasonable enough. But of course Jerry in replying has a whole different agenda and instead of posting a separate comment with an off topic disclaimer he chasers after Champ and plays innocent. He gave his game away when he mentioned old comments.”

          Exactly! Thank you for stating what’s so obvious, Jay Boo.

        • gravenimage says

          Jul 23, 2016 at 9:22 pm

          Champ is one of the staunchest Anti-Jihadists here. Attempting to smear her with childish name-calling actually reflects badly not on Champ herself, but on the one doing it.

        • Champ says

          Jul 23, 2016 at 9:42 pm

          Thank you, Graven!

        • gravenimage says

          Jul 24, 2016 at 12:22 am

          🙂

  3. Moses says

    Jul 22, 2016 at 3:47 pm

    There has been a shooting incident in Germany don’t know whether it’s linked to Isis

    • Angemon says

      Jul 22, 2016 at 4:21 pm

      http://www.jihadwatch.org/2016/07/shooting-rampage-in-munich-ongoing-15-dead-islamic-state-celebrates

    • gravenimage says

      Jul 22, 2016 at 9:56 pm

      The gunman was an Iranian Muslim. Maybe not directly linked to ISIS, since the killer was likely Shi’ite–but this did not stop ISIS from celebrating it. Definitely Jihad.

  4. Kay says

    Jul 22, 2016 at 5:06 pm

    Thank you for this, Mr. Ibrahim. I am diligently forwarding it to as many church leaders as my fingers will allow, along with a plea to remember our responsibility to our brothers and sisters.

  5. gravenimage says

    Jul 22, 2016 at 9:54 pm

    Raymond Ibrahim: ‘Worthless Christians’ Treated ‘Like Animals’
    ………………………..

    Yes–Muslims are persecuting, abusing, and murdering Christians all over the world. Bless you for exposing this, Mr. Ibrahim.

    • Champ says

      Jul 22, 2016 at 10:27 pm

      I second this blessing, Graven.

      • gravenimage says

        Jul 23, 2016 at 9:23 pm

        Yes, Champ–Raymond Ibrahim is a hero here.

  6. duh swami says

    Jul 23, 2016 at 7:10 am

    Killing a shirker is the best form of action to please Allah, but ig you can’t or won’t do that, treating them like animals is the next best thing…

  7. Edward says

    Jul 23, 2016 at 11:23 pm

    Raymond Ibrahim: ‘Worthless Christians’ Treated ‘Like Animals’

    What FACTION in the world stage would benefit the most if Christianity is eradicated completely is my question? Into what end would it help any FACTION?

    Would it be Liberalism, Elitism or Islamism (which is bank rolled most likely by
    Saudis and et al)?

    Is this Christianity demise trending in part because of the Christians’ fault, perhaps in fact we have acquired a STUPEFACTION (the state of being stupefied; stupor) status towards our own faith; that has lend itself into this horrific MANIFESTED dilemma?

    • Champ says

      Jul 23, 2016 at 11:35 pm

      “Is this Christianity demise trending in part because of the Christians’ fault” …

      ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

      Please do not blame the victims, and in a court of law such a statement would be thrown out if a defense attorney (defending an accused murderer) used this line of thought.

      • Edward says

        Jul 24, 2016 at 9:43 am

        Champ, what you espouse is a secular thought, but when a serious human error is committed it is against God; that person has to answer to our Creator. That repentance would be in the transcendental realm and not in the secular! This is why humans experience trials, tribulations and perhaps even horrific wrath. As an example: the Jewish world experience for thousands of years!

    • gravenimage says

      Jul 24, 2016 at 12:03 am

      Edward wrote:

      Is this Christianity demise trending in part because of the Christians’ fault, perhaps in fact we have acquired a STUPEFACTION (the state of being stupefied; stupor) status towards our own faith; that has lend itself into this horrific MANIFESTED dilemma?
      …………………….

      No, Christians being *savagely oppressed and murdered* by Muslims is not something Christians somehow brought on themselves.

      Are you one of those people who ask what it was that the Jews did to make those nice Nazis so angry at them, as well?

      • Edward says

        Jul 24, 2016 at 11:18 am

        gravenimage,100% Secular thinking is not always a beneficial thought!

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