These are the “vetted moderates” to whom Obama has given US taxpayer money and weapons bought with taxpayer funds. The Obama administration can’t possibly distinguish “moderates” from “extremists,” as it claims to be able to do, because it doesn’t even recognize the reality of the Islamic jihad. How can it possibly vet for the presence or absence of an ideology that it refuses to admit even exists?
“And these are the ‘good guys’! Sickening video shows US-backed Syrian rebels taunting and then brutally beheading a young boy because he was a ‘spy,'” by Gareth Davies, Mailonline, July 19, 2016:
Fighters from a US-backed Syrian militant group have been filmed brutally beheading a child as young as 11.
The video captures Nour al-Din al-Zenki fighters in the back of a truck with a child they claim is an al-Quds soldier supporting Assad’s Syrian forces.
One of the fighters shouts ‘Allahu Akbar’ meaning ‘God is great’ after taking a small knife to the boy’s throat and cutting off his head in the Palesinian refugee Handarat Camp in Northern Aleppo.
The child, who is clearly under the age of 12, was arrested by the Islamist militants for allegedly being Palestinian Liwaa Al Quds, al-Quds Brigade fighter, according to Russia News Now.
Sickening footage shot immediately before the boy is slaughtered shows him in ragged clothes surrounded by bearded militants in the back of a pick-up truck.
One of them holds him by the hair and slaps him in the face.
Judging by his ragged clothes and the marks on his arms, it appears the boy was impoverished and may have been tortured before he was murdered in the video, seen by MailOnline.
The boy is placed face-down in the back of the truck with his arms tied behind his back when the executioner is handed a small knife by a fellow fighter.
He then cuts the boy’s throat before shouting ‘Allahu Akbar’ and holds his head aloft.
Before the video ends, he places the head on the boy’s back before jumping down from the SUV.
Liwaa Al Quds is a pro-Syrian government Palestinian paramilitary faction made up of the Palestinians who have been driven out of their homes in the Handarat Camp once Islamist militants took over the neighbourhood.
Today, the group is fighting alongside the Syrian Army to retake the camp.
Nour al-Din al-Zenki is part of the Levant Front, and its allies the Islamic Front and the Free Syrian Army are fighting to overthrow the Assad regime.
It is also battling ISIS and the U.S government supplied the group with money and anti-tank missiles.

Jaladhi says
These so called rebels are no different than ISIS members – if anybody thinks there is a difference he is delusional(e. g., our government). A Muslim is a Muslim is a Muslim no matter whatever name he goes by. His killing instincts never die!!
Jon says
I’d be backing Assad all the way. He may not be a particularly nice guy but he knows his people – as did Gadaffi and Saddam – and knew how best to deal with them. If only we’d just leave these people alone!
Bob says
Yes – it appears that the only way to rule muslims is tyranny.Anything else is seen as ‘weakness’and exploited. Will the genuine ‘moderate’ muslims please make yourselves known…
Jay Boo says
Muhammad would praise these child butchers as TRUE Muslims.
Jorge abuauad says
Just tears and hate hope russia wipe of them up the map
Peter Charles says
An infestation of roaches that need to be exterminated.
mortimer says
Large numbers of Muslims will not even be embarrassed by the beheading of a child. Imagine how pleased they would be if American or other Western adults were beheaded?
This is truly a Death Cult unworthy of anyone’s support. Islam should truly be banned.
Gary says
You are so correct. Islam should be banned. Yet our current administration coddles the muslim “brotherhood” & C.A.I.R., and muslims in America continue to uphold their …. “faith” and refer to muhammed as if he’s a god.
…..the blind leading the blind.
Eileen M Farley Alaimo says
The main reason this continues is the POS in our WH He is one of them! I can’t wait till his reign is over
Jay Boo says
Absolutely true.
“Large numbers of Muslims will not even be embarrassed by the beheading of a child. ”
Obama and Hillary are not even embarrassed either as they sing praises to Islam.
jimmi says
Brutally, denial or indifference… that’s what you might expect from muslims, a horrible cocktail.
Jaladhi says
Just imagine we are allowing these savages of the 7th century in our country! Disgusting!
Peggy says
Most of us don’t want them here but nobody has listened yet.
TheOldOligarch says
There are no moderates, it’s Jihadis all the way down.
Bob says
So very true, or they aren’t koran-believing muslims!!
Carolyne says
But, but. but….There must be moderates. John McCain said that he knew there were moderates because they told him so at lunch.
The fact is, and our government can take it or leave it, there are no moderates in Islam. There is only cruel, bloodthirsty, misogynist Islam. Scratch a Muslim and this is what you will find. Every Muslim living wants our deaths.
Mockingjay says
Look at their friendly smiling faces.
Take the little, soon to be brutally murdered, boy out of the picture and any immigration officer would only see nice young syrian refugees who need our help and support.
…
They’re amongst us already.
By the thousands.
Mockingjay says
PSYCHOPATHS.
Christianblood says
They are not psychopaths. They are muslim jihadists backed by America!
somehistory says
Everything they do labels them as *psychopaths.* To say they are not, is to not know what the word *psychopath* means or what constitutes a psychopath.
The writer clearly said they were funded and armed by the U.S., but that does not eliminate what they personally are in heart, mind and soul.
Ex-muslim says
Christianblood says
“They are not psychopaths. They are muslim jihadists backed by America!”
Indeed!
mary says
Stop using that term, they are demon possessed by their own admission. Their own Koran says they are all accompanied by djinn.
somehistory says
The fact that they are demon-possessed does not alter the fact that they are psychopaths.
A psychopath has no empathy.
A psychopath looks out only for him (her)self.
A psychopath uses and abuses others as he pleases.
A psychopath is fully aware that what he is doing is wrong, but feels that he is above the *law* and *morality.*
A psychopath will put any blame or responsibility for any thing charged against him onto others and never accepts these for himself.
A psychopath never changes. He will do today what he did yesterday. He will do tomorrow what he was caught for today, even if punished, as he sees only the *right now* and cares only about what he wants *right now.*
These savages are psychopaths. They are worshippers of satan, the demon snake.
Just because they are demon-possessed does not rule out that they are psychopaths.
As are the people who enable them in their blood-lust.
Tommy says
This child is in heaven with Jesus and Mary now. Prayers for his family and friends.
Angry Aussie says
Agree. Poor young one didn’t deserve that.
Christianblood says
Angry Aussie
(Agree. Poor young one didn’t deserve that).
Thanks to America’s support for these savages this child got beheaded on video. Shame on America! Shame on the West for the support they are giving to the global muslim jihadists! May God bless Russia for opposing America and its evil islamic allies in Syria! Without Russia’s support of Assad we would have millions of Syrian Christians and other minorities dead by now! May God Bless Russia! May God Bless Russia!
John spielman says
So tell Putin to stop supporting the koranimals in Iran as well because the hang children
gravenimage says
As usual, “Christianblood” does not actually have a word of condemnation for Muslim savagery–just excoriation for the West. He never has any problems with Putin enabling Muslim barbarism, even posting a video recently where Putin sneered at the idea that Iran was dangerous, but claimed that NATO was.
Westerners have no trouble–as here–criticizing the missteps of our own nations. Would that that were true of this nasty poster.
Angemon says
Christianblood, a paid Russian troll, posted:
“Without Russia’s support of Assad we would have millions of Syrian Christians and other minorities dead by now!”
Are you talking about the Christians you want to simultaneously remain in Syria and be expatriated to the US? And why is Putin supporting Iran, that kills Christians for being Christians? #IranianChristianLivesMatter
Kathy Brown, Esq. says
That is correct Tommy. God help us to visit His wrath on these unspeakable savages!
Angemon says
More evidence that there are no “good guys” – or even “ok guys”, or “so-so guys” – in the islamic world, just different levels of islamic-fueled insanity.
Christianblood says
The US-backed islamic jihadists that beheaded the 12 year old child are one of the same groups that receive the bulk of US weaponry and money. As it did in Libya, US plans to use these barbaric jihadists to overthrow the Syrian government of Assad and replace them with these jihadists. As I have been saying all along, the US government officials who are supporting these jihadists are just as pure EVIL as the jihadists themselves and they need to be defeated before they mastermind the death and the destruction of millions of Christians and other religious minorities in Syria. No doubt that the US governemnt and its jihadist allies in Syria are planning to start even much more bloodier religious genocide against 1.8 million Christians that are now live safely under the protection of the Assad regime. If you care for these Christians and other minorities in Syria, please pray for the complete defeat of the US-backed barbaric jihadists in Syria. May God intervene and stop the evil and murderous US plans to perpetrate another religious genocide against Christians and other minorities in Syria. May their evil, genocidal plans come to nothing! Shame on America! Please watch as this young child begs for his life just before he was brutally beheaded by the ruthless US-backed islamic jihadists.
http://sputniknews.com/middleeast/20160720/1043349915/rebels-boy-beheading-outrage.html
gravenimage says
What crap. US authorities hoping to find actual freedom fighters in Syria is madness, but pretending that this is “mastermind the death and the destruction of millions of Christians and other religious minorities in Syria” is just grotesque. Just more unhinged anti-Americanism from “Christianblood”.
Ex-muslim says
gravenimage says
“What crap. US authorities hoping to find actual freedom fighters in Syria is madness”.
It is not madness. It is outright criminal equal to perpetrating a genocide! Do you care what happen to the Iraqi Christians after US invaded Iraq? Do you care? You are a callous and cruel and ignorant being!
Angemon says
Ex-muslim posted:
“You are a callous and cruel and ignorant being!”
This is coming from someone who called Westerners “homosexuals”, “ignorants” and “animals”, and who said he’ll celebrate when the West falls to muslims – not “if”, “when”, he considers it as a fact – with the ensuing bloodshed.
Champ says
“ex-muslim” is failing to see that there are no actual freedom fighters in Syria, and he’s putting his faith in something that does not exist–what a fool!
And Graven pointing this out does NOT make her “a callous and cruel and ignorant being.” This is gross calumny and a bold-faced lie.
Can “ex-muslim” stick to the facts? Apparently not.
gravenimage says
“Ex-muslim” wrote:
You are a callous and cruel and ignorant being!
…………………………….
I’m “callous” for opposing Jihad savagery?
This is said by someone who has salivated over the bloody conquest of the West by his (former?) coreligionists, most recently just yesterday:
Ex-muslim says
July 20, 2016 at 1:17 pm
I have truly HAVE NO RESPECT FOR THE WEST, THEY ARE EVIL TRAITORS WHO LOVE ISLAM AND WHO BETRAYED JESUS CHRIST AND HIS NOBLE GOSPEL AND THEY ALL DESERVE TO BE CONQUERED THE MUSLIM JIHADISTS THEY ARE SO IN LOVE WITH! THE GOD OF THE WEST IS MATERIALISM, SEX, SEX TOYS AND CORRUPTION! THEY ARE ALL TRAITORS. ALL OF THEM. MAY GOD JUDGE THEM AND PUNISH THEM! THEY DISCRIMINATE AGAINST CHRISTIANS BUT LOVE MUSLIM JIHADIST KILLERS. THEY ARE TRAITORS!
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2016/07/france-muslim-migrant-stabs-woman-and-her-three-daughters-for-being-scantily-dressed#comment-1483813
Note that in this case he thought the West deserved to be overrun by homicidal Muslims because a mother in France dared to let her 8-year-old daughter wear shorts on a warm day. *Good God*.
Angemon says
Christianblood, a paid Russian troll, posted:
“As it did in Libya, US plans to use these barbaric jihadists to overthrow the Syrian government of Assad and replace them with these jihadists.”
You should let the National Coalition for Syrian Revolutionary and Opposition Forces – you know, the people who do want Assad out – know about it then, since their former president recently excoriated the US for NOT wanting to get rid of Assad.
“No doubt that the US governemnt and its jihadist allies in Syria are planning to start even much more bloodier religious genocide against 1.8 million Christians that are now live safely under the protection of the Assad regime.”
Citation needed. And while you’re at that, you have, on more than on occasion, accused the US of training troops to specifically murder Christians. I asked you to provide some sort of evidence to back that assertion. I’m still waiting, you know?
Your claims that the US are trying to wage a religious genocide are spurious and reflect the average Russian propaganda – and yet, useful idiots would suggest that it’s the US that needs to cosy up to, and appease, Russia.
African infidel says
To Christianblood
Dear C.B. my friendly advice for you is don’t waste your time. West don’t care no Christianity. They care about money, sex, cars, computer games, pokemon go, oil etc. They are a lost race!
Angemon says
African Infidel posted:
“They are a lost race!”
“West” is not a race, you dolt. If it is, you’ll have to amend your posts about the non-existing racism in American police to read “racist Western police officers kill Western people in the West” – which makes even less sense than the original.
African infidel says
To Angemon
white police in the US are out to kill black men. they just shot an un-armed black nurse who was assisting a mentaly sick person in the street. see the link:
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-36859305
Angemon says
African infidel posted:
“white police in the US are out to kill black men.”
Citation needed. Implicit bias test *proved* that cops are less likely to shoot black people:
http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s11292-012-9163-y
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/jul/11/no-racial-bias-police-shootings-study-harvard-prof/
Anyway, stop obfuscating – I called you out on your nonsense. “West” is not a race. If you consider it as one them reflect that in your posts. Your post should read “Western police im the US are out to kill Western men”.
African infidel says
To angemon
if you are black in America your isis is the white police who can execute you with no questions aksed at your next traffic stop! it is living like hell!
Angemon says
African infidel posted:
“if you are black in America”
Two things you’d know nothing about.
“your isis is the white police who can execute you with no questions aksed at your next traffic stop! it is living like hell!”
This is, of course, false. Policemen, regardless of their race, who shoot people, regardless of their race, are held responsible for their actions. I doesn’t help that BLM and “civil rights activists” literally and demonstrably *lie* to create an easily debunkable narrative. One would think they wouldn’t have to if things were 1/1000th as bad as they claim.
gravenimage says
African Infidel wrote:
They care about money, sex, cars, computer games, pokemon go, oil etc.
………………………….
African Infidel ranting about the evils of Pokemon Go sounds like this Imam:
“Muslim cleric says Pokemon Go is un-Islamic”
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2016/07/muslim-cleric-says-pokemon-go-is-un-islamic
Champ says
African infidel says
July 21, 2016 at 1:14 pm
To angemon
if you are black in America your isis is the white police who can execute you with no questions aksed at your next traffic stop! it is living like hell!
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
“African infidel” offers another bold-faced lie; only this time his lies go beyond the pale comparing American white police officers to ISIS. Such egregious calumny. Get lost LIAR.
somehistory says
Soon, sooner than we know, the True God will wipe their evil smirks off their ugly faces. Divine Judgement awaits these children of satan the devil, and they will be shown only the mercy they showed to the child. That is a promise made by God’s Son, Jesus Christ. (Matthew 5:7), and his brother James confirms that those who don’t show mercy, will receive none (James 2:13).
islam is the evil wild beast from satan…whatever the group of his children and worshippers call themselves.
Cecilia Ellis says
Once again, brave soldiers of Allah take that en-masse courageous step … to torture and behead one little boy. These grinning, jubilant demons make a POS look majestic.
Christianblood says
Cecilia Ellis posted
(..Once again, brave soldiers of Allah take that en-masse courageous step … to torture and behead one little boy. These grinning, jubilant demons make a POS look majestic.)
And America, who calls her self “exceptional”, “democratic”, “freedom loving”, etc is backing those child-beheading barbaric islamic terrorists! Why don’t you mention that part? SHAME ON AMERICA!
Peggy says
Yes CB, we know that Obama is evil and is supporting these savages but the good people of America are waking up. Trump is popular and most likely will win.
People are rebelling against evil. That’s why Trump is so popular.
Let’s keep encouraging more and more people to switch from evil Hillary and turn to anyone who is against her.
I share your anger in what is happening to the world. People of US have been lied to for a long time. They too have in a way been held in bondage by the globalists. Their power was taken away and still would be taken away if it wasn’t for the brave who fought to expose the crooked system.
Let’s look to the future and try to fix what is broken.
Angemon says
Peggy posted:
“I share your anger in what is happening to the world. ”
I, for one, am angered at the persecution of Christians in Iran. Are you? Is CB? Or is your alleged anger selective and only applicable to what you can pin on the US?
Cecilia Ellis says
Christianblood wrote: “And America, who calls her self “exceptional”, “democratic”, “freedom loving”, etc is backing those child-beheading barbaric islamic terrorists! Why don’t you mention that part? SHAME ON AMERICA!”
Christianblood, in response to your query, I did not mention the U.S. “backing those child-beheading barbaric Islamic terrorists” because I was too busy focusing on a little child, all alone, being savagely murdered before camera by a group of despicable Muslims. I thought of his fears as the monsters toyed with him. I thought of his pain, which he probably experienced to a slightly lesser degree prior to having a fellow Muslim slit his throat, as he thought possibly of his mother and his father, whom I believe was also beheaded by the same repulsive men. Then came the final attack, a barbarity that this little boy must have known was coming. As that small knife sawed unmercifully through skin, muscle, nerves, and larynx, the pain would have been immense but not necessarily quick. This little guy probably gasped for breath that could not come. He could not even cry out in agony.
That, Christianblood, is why I failed to mention that which appears to be of greater interest to you: the denigration of the United States of America. And since I don’t have at hand the notes I took while personally attending Obama’s foreign policy meetings germane to backing Syrian “rebels,” . . . Oh, wait, I did not attend . . . due to the fact that I was never invited . . . because I am a conservative American citizen who despises Obama. I hold him, his benefactors, and his self-serving supporters responsible for enabling this situation, but make no mistake: Muslims brutally murdered this young Muslim boy.
Angemon says
Cecilia Ellis posted:
“That, Christianblood, is why I failed to mention that which appears to be of greater interest to you: the denigration of the United States of America. ”
Indeed – a point I’ve made several times, and for which I’ve been viciously slandered and attacked on several occasions. CB cares nothing about victims of jihad, only how to use their bodies to attack the West, especially the US.
Cecilia Ellis says
Angemon, you are correct. CB has a clear, anti-American agenda,
gravenimage says
Yes–poor little boy.
Champ says
Evil barbarians!!! …and they’re smiling? ..what sicko’s!!
Kay says
It is so creepy the way they aren’t horrified! They have even corrupted children to accept and relish the evil.
Let us pray for the repose of the soul of this poor little one.
Champ says
Yes–it’s very creepy how these savages relish in such evil!! ..they are heartless, soulless perps.
And it’s my hope and prayer that this young boy is already with Jesus, our beloved Redeemer and LORD.
Thank you, dear Kay.
gravenimage says
Yes, Champ–the brutal murder of a *little boy* is one of the few things that make pious Muslims smile.
God, I hate Islam.
Christianblood says
Champ posted
(..Evil barbarians!!! …and they’re smiling? ..what sicko’s!!..)
And America supports them, arms them, trains them and funds them!
Why don’t you mention that part? They are your allies. They are America’s allies!
SHAME ON AMERICA! SHAME ON AMERICA!
Champ says
Get. Lost. Troll.
Christianblood says
Champ
watch as your next president Hilarry Clinton says it all here
Angemon says
Christianblood, a paid Russian troll, posted:
“Champ
watch as your next president Hilarry Clinton says it all here”
Ah, again with the predictions of the future, as well as expecting us to believe what Hillary Clinton, a serial liar that makes you look honest by comparison, allegedly says. Anyway, I’ve asked you this many times, but can you point to the exact timeframe where Hillary says what’s in the video title? Because it seems it isn’t there – it’s almost as the title is misleading or something…
Champ says
I hate Hillary and I have NEVER like her, and she does NOT represent America on the whole …but you’re too obtuse to understand the difference. The woman belongs in prison. Period.
Get. Lost. Troll.
Take aim at the **real** enemy: islam and company. If you can. If you dare.
gravenimage says
The idea that “Christianblood” is taking what *Hillary Clinton” has to say at face value is just grotesque. But he will use whatever he can to smear the US.
Peggy says
Yes. I am sick to the stomach thinking about the poor little child.
Anyone who is willing to fight this evil gets my full support. Unfortunately, at present there are no champions. We have some willing to go so far.
What is needed is for the three great powers, US, Russia and China to forget their grievances for now and take care of this evil first. The only way to win is to unite. One country alone cannot do it.
Maybe it will happen. If Trump wins we have a chance.
Champ says
“If Trump wins we have a chance.”
Exactly, Peggy!!
Ex-muslim says
@ Peggy
islam and those who follow it are evil to the core and that is not new. What new and deeply shocking is that US, West are backing these jihadists and that should be the point of the discussion but I found (Christianblood) is the only one who is truly outraged at this. Why other people are not outraged at the US’s support for these murderous jihadists? Why are they silent?
gravenimage says
“Christianblood” is not outraged by Muslim savagery–he just sees a chance to slam the US.
“Ex-muslim” is not outraged by Muslim barbarism, either–he has said many times here that he eagerly looks forward to the West falling to Islam.
Champ says
So true, Graven …”ex-muslim” isn’t fooling *anyone* here.
Angemon says
Ex-muslim posted:
“I found (Christianblood) is the only one who is truly outraged at this. Why other people are not outraged at the US’s support for these murderous jihadists? Why are they silent?”
This is, of course, blatantly false – the majority of people here are critics of US (and Western in general) meddling in the islamic world. The thing is, most people here also see that the US is NOT the only country involved with the islamic world – take, for example, Russia and Iran, for whom you and CB have exactly zero criticism for.
Stick to your usual shtick of claiming whatever it is CB posted is true, no matter how blatantly false or asinine – I thought it would be impossible, but you sound even dumber when you stray from that formula.
African infidel says
To Ex-muslim
I noticed the same thing my self. these people keep talking about how islam is bad bla, bla, bla. okay, islam is bad and we all know it is a bad religion of terror and murder. let us know talk about why the west love islam and is supporting terrorists. in Nigeria US won’t help government there fight book haram until they recognize abortion and ‘gay marraige’. damn it!
Angemon says
African infidel posted:
“To Ex-muslim
I noticed the same thing my self. these people keep talking about how islam is bad bla, bla, bla. okay, islam is bad and we all know it is a bad religion of terror and murder. let us know talk about why the west love islam and is supporting terrorists. in Nigeria US won’t help government there fight book haram until they recognize abortion and ‘gay marraige’. damn it!”
Let’s see if I can follow your logic: you wrote that African Americans should leave the US and go to Africa because racism in the US and Africa is a stable continent, and now you’re damning the US for not fighting islam in Africa? Boy, you back-pedal and flip-flop almost as fast as Peggy (and fall on your face almost as hard as well)…
African infidel says
To angemon
no discrimination because of skin color in black Africa! Arabs in the North do discriminate against blacks but sub-Saharan Africa everyone is black and no black will be discriminated against due to their skin color.
Angemon says
African infidel posted:
“no discrimination because of skin color in black Africa!”
Citation needed. Anyway, this is a red-herring – here’s what I wrote that you saw fit to avoid answering:
You allegedly want black people to leave America because the US is out to get them and now you excoriate the US for NOT sending troops to Africa? Pick a side and stick with it…
Angemon says
Peggy posted:
“What is needed is for the three great powers, US, Russia and China to forget their grievances for now and take care of this evil first.”
All we’re waiting is for Russia and China to show they’re game. Russia could start by stop demonizing the West. China could stop the cyber attacks. Oh, wait, remind me again how many millions of muslim citizens Russia and China have, as well as which jihadi states they have dealings with? That’s right, both China and Russia have their own muslim infestations in their backyard to deal with. For decades, if not centuries. Why are they not leading by example? For f***s sake, just last month Russian authorities named a bridge in Saint Petersburg after a jihadi leader who told his followers to kill as many Russians as possible. That’s our hope for the islamic menace? If so, we’re f***ed. No, our only hope lies in the US – as long s Hillary doesn’t win. Maybe Europe – if I were to to trust the MSM, I’d believe there’s a marked increase in “islamophobia”. Since I’m sceptic, my guess is that the realization that islam is fundamentally incompatible with core Western values is on the rise. But Russia and China? With their many millions of muslims? Forget it.
Peggy says
So you think we don’t need their help. We don’t need their help just like we didn’t need it in WWII.
Russia, China and the US and the rest of the world have a problem with Muslims. It’s a common problem which requires a common solution.
Maybe if we all worked together for a common cause, maybe we would trust each other more.
You seem to blame both Russia and China for bad relations. I think there is enough blame to go round and all three could do better.
I hope they do because only united can we solve this problem.
Angemon says
Peggy posted:
“So you think we don’t need their help. We don’t need their help just like we didn’t need it in WWII.”
WWII? Now you’re putting words in my mouth for the sake of it. I’ll just quote what you wrote, seeing how it aptly fits:
That was exactly what you did, little Miss Projector. Anyway. During WWII Russia did not have millions of Nazis living in it, did it? Nor was it dealing with an ongoing Nazi rebellion. In fact, Russia had a made a deal with the Nazis to split Europe among then – had the Nazis not attacked Russia first, the Russians would have stayed out of the war, if not interfered to either help the Nazis or act like the barbarian mohamedan hordes on the 7th century that swooped in after the Persian and Byzantine empires weakened one another after centuries of war and conquered the whole thing.
Terrible comparison – expected out of you, though – and dick move, trying to put words in my mouth. Tsk tsk…
Answer me this: do you really think that the muslim unrest in the US is comparable to the muslim unrest in China or Russia? Is there an ongoing muslim rebellion in the US? Did Obama offered a portion of the US territory to a muslim leader so he can run it as his own personal fiefdom like Putin did to Kadyrov? Did US authorities named a bridge (let’s say the Golden Gate Bridge) after a muslim terrorist responsible for the deaths of thousands of Americans (let’s say Osama bin Laden) like Russian authorities did in Saint Petersburg to Kadirov?
“Russia, China and the US and the rest of the world have a problem with Muslims. It’s a common problem which requires a common solution.
Maybe if we all worked together for a common cause, maybe we would trust each other more.”
Russia and China have tens of millions of muslim citizens in their territory. If they can’t fix their own backyards why am I supposed to trust them to fix the world? And why should I trust them when they show nothing but open contempt hostility for me?
“You seem to blame both Russia and China for bad relations.”
With good reason. I’d go into detail, but I suspect you’d ignore it and push your agenda anyway.
“I think there is enough blame to go round and all three could do better.”
Fine – let China and Russia amend their behaviour and I’ll change my mind accordingly. Putin should stop acting as if is entitled to boss everyone around – hey comrade, the USSR is no more, deal with it. China should stop acting like a rogue state. Let them do that and see how it goes from there. The West can do no more to appease them than it has done so far.
“I hope they do because only united can we solve this problem.”
Again: China. Russia. Tens of millions of muslim citizens. Unrest. Can’t fix own backyards. These are the people you’re trusting to fix the muslim problem worldwide? Not the sharpest tool in the shed, are you?
Peggy says
There is no humanity in them at all.
Pure evil from the fire of Hell.
sancho panza says
Yes, it’s appalling and sickening, that look of smiling contentment on their faces as though they have just done a virtuous deed. What is evil is they believe they have done just that. Ibn Warraq has said that we must undermine their certainties. I see that more and more people are now talking critically about Islam. But for me the tide will have truly turned when Muslims come out of the mosques and I see not smug and conceited faces but shame in their eyes.
gravenimage says
I think you will have a *long* wait, Sancho. Muslims have no shame over their barbarism.
BlueRaven says
Anyone thinks “Allah Akabar” is a sick animal. Allah is NOT GOD you sick muzzies. 99.99% cluesless Western media equates Allah with God. Got to give them – Mussies made great strides keeping our leaders dumb, blind and deaf about Islam. Don’t believe me then try telling them what is Islam for real.
Champ says
islam is *wholly* evil! …and there are NO “good guys” within islam at any level. None. Zilch. Nada. Capiche!
Christianblood says
Champ posted
(..islam is *wholly* evil! …and there are NO “good guys” within islam at any level. None..)
And yet your government, America is not only backing child-beheaders but they are bringing thousands of Syrian muslim into America every month while refusing to resettle Syrian Christians. SHAME ON AMERICA!
Champ says
Get. Lost. Troll.
Christianblood says
Champ
You hate the truth. Don’t you?
Angemon says
Christianblood, a paid Russian troll, posted:
“You hate the truth. Don’t you?”
Nah, Champ loves the truth. She also has you in a box – you’re not fooling anyone.
Ex-muslim says
Christianblood says
“You hate the truth. Don’t you?”
Dear (CB), O’ how much they hate the Truth! As the vinegar is to an open wound is the truth to the minds of these dim-witted creatures!
They are truly disgusting!
Angemon says
Ex-muslim posted:
“Dear (CB), O’ how much they hate the Truth! As the vinegar is to an open wound is the truth to the minds of these dim-witted creatures!
They are truly disgusting!”
What, what, what?!?!?! “Ex-muslim” showing up to wholeheartedly agree with CB AND insult and defame forum regulars, if not Westerners in general? I’m, shocked, shocked!!!
Champ says
“ex-muslim”, you’re an idiot, since I don’t “hate the truth”, as you allege. This remark is simply preposterous. And like you, all “Christianblood” offers are exaggerations, half-truths and outright lies.
Seems that you’re a sock puppet for “Christianblood”; wherever he is, there YOU are. Things that make you go, hmm …
Champ says
Christianblood says
July 20, 2016 at 7:00 pm
Champ
You hate the truth. Don’t you?
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I loooove the truth!
But I *hate* LIARS like you “non-Christianblood!”
Get. Lost. Lying Troll.
gravenimage says
Notice that “Ex-muslim” considers staunch Anti-Jihadists like Champ at Jihad Watch “disgusting”, but has not actually condemned this Muslim savagery here. As Angemon notes, this is sadly predictable.
Champ says
Angemon says
July 20, 2016 at 9:46 pm
Ex-muslim posted:
“Dear (CB), O’ how much they hate the Truth! As the vinegar is to an open wound is the truth to the minds of these dim-witted creatures!
They are truly disgusting!”
What, what, what?!?!?! “Ex-muslim” showing up to wholeheartedly agree with CB AND insult and defame forum regulars, if not Westerners in general? I’m, shocked, shocked!!!
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Exactly, Angemon.
And these two boys, “ex-muslim” and “non-Christianblood”, are a derisive and toxic tag-team who are part of the PROBLEMS the world faces; and attempting to discredit America will NEVER gain any traction here, nor serve as a SOLUTION to *any* of these problems. This is a very bad and unwise tact, Boys.
So take aim at the real enemy: islam and company. If you can. If you dare.
Peggy says
Shame on Obama not America. The good people of America have woken up and are trying to deal with this corrupt administration.
Give them a chance.
Champ says
Brava, Peggy!
Ex-muslim says
@ Peggy
I have deep respect for Trump and I hope he wins but I watched Christ Christy last night as he ignores the dangerous US policies in Syria and kept blamed all the problems not on ISIS and on the jihadist killers but on Assad alone. Trump should disassociate himself such neo-cons as Christ Christy or nothing will change.
Angemon says
Ex-muslim posted:
“I watched Christ Christy last night ”
Let’s see: you’ve stated several times that the West is your mortal enemy. You’ve repeatedly insulted Westerners and said you’ll celebrate when we fall to muslims – not “if” but “when”, you take it as a fact – and yet, if you’re not residing in America, you’re at least residing some place where you can access American media.
Am I the only one smelling the BS emanating from “Ex-muslim”?
gravenimage says
Who is “Christ Christy”?
Angemon says
Christianblood, a paid Russian troll, posted:
“they are bringing thousands of Syrian muslim into America every month while refusing to resettle Syrian Christians. SHAME ON AMERICA!”
Once again, the troll contradicts what he posted before. One day he claims that Syrian Christians are to remain in Syria, another day he excoriates the US for not uprooting them from the place where he wants them to be – whatever it fits at the time goes, consistency be damned!
Ali Bey says
vomiting refrains me of writing now
Nigel GFF says
A snapshot of more to come.
Those grinning faces are particularly offensive. It is the arrogance of certitude, strangely reminiscent of our leftist_liberal ‘intellectual’ elites. Is that visage amenable to de-radicalisation? No, emphatically no! Their cause is right & proper and they have revelation to prove it. We must stop backing fools backing beasts. Vote the way you must.
Christianblood says
Watch as nearly half a million Syrian Christians celebrate this past Christmas in the streets of Damascus under the protection of the president Assad and his heroic Syrian Army. Imagine what would happen to these Christians if the American-backed barbaric islamic jihadists toppled president Assad’s government as America and their Saudi-Qatar-Turkey allies were expecting. Watch the video:
https://www.rt.com/news/327064-christmas-celebrate-syria-damascus/
Champ says
“Christianblood” needs to be banned from this site. His constant stream of anti-American, pro Russian propaganda is a huge distraction from the real enemy: islam & company.
This is Jihad Watch, not America Watch.
Alarmed Pig Farmer says
It looks like somebody should send a memo to Peter King, Col. Ollie North, and a whole slew of other Fox RINO national security contributors that there are no Syrian moderates. There never were. It was a fine fantasy, though, and a seemingly good talking point for what little opposition remaining in the Republican Party. But it was never anything more than a fantasy that almost rose to the vaunted status of an official fictive reality, but never got there.
maddog20-20 says
The fetid clinton and obama said that the “rebels” are good, so they must be good.
gravenimage says
US-backed Syrian “rebels” screaming “Allahu akbar” behead small boy as “spy”
…………………………….
*Horrifying*, All too many Americans are desperately hoping that those who oppose a dictator must be the good guys, but it simply is not the case here. So far, authorities haven’t been able to find any who aren’t actually vicious Jihadists.
gravenimage says
Long past time to pull the plug on funding.
Peggy says
Long past time we recreate the Crusades.
I am so sick of these savages.
Peggy says
Angemon says
July 20, 2016 at 9:46 pm
Peggy posted:
“I share your anger in what is happening to the world. ”
I, for one, am angered at the persecution of Christians in Iran. Are you? Is CB? Or is your alleged anger selective and only applicable to what you can pin on the US?
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Read my post again but this time s l o w l y.
My anger was directed at the establishment not America (the people of America).
My God you really can’t help yourself can you. You will ignore 90% of my post but try your hardest to find something, anything to discredit.
Yes, I am angry at the treatment Christians get in Iran as well but the savages we are discussing here are not from Iran and ARE BACKED BY US GOVERNMENT.
When we discuss Iran and what is happening to Christians there I will join in.
Angemon says
Peggy posted:
“Read my post again but this time s l o w l y.
My anger was directed at the establishment not America (the people of America).”
That’s odd, I could swear you wrote:
You know, right there:
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2016/07/us-backed-syrian-rebels-screaming-allahu-akbar-behead-small-boy-as-spy#comment-1484074
Hmmmmm…
“When we discuss Iran and what is happening to Christians there I will join in.”
No, you wont. There are plenty of topics here discussing Iran. Are you there discussing what’s happening to Christians in Iran? Suggesting that no non-muslim nation should have no dealings with Iran?
Peggy says
“Read my post again but this time s l o w l y.
My anger was directed at the establishment not America (the people of America).”
That’s odd, I could swear you wrote:
I share your anger in what is happening to the world.
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You are reading something into this sentence that isn’t there. The world is in great danger right now and yes, I am angry about that. So what’s wrong with what I said?
Did I blame America for it? Did I blame anyone by what I wrote?
So tell me, what are you making out of that? What spin are you trying to put on it?
Angemon says
Peggy posted:
“You are reading something into this sentence that isn’t there. ”
Much to the contrary – I’m merely reading what you wrote, no more, no less, and seeing how it doesn’t add up. Which, BTW, is not my fault, is it?
Peggy says
Angemon says
July 21, 2016 at 12:15 pm
Peggy posted:
“You are reading something into this sentence that isn’t there. ”
Much to the contrary – I’m merely reading what you wrote, no more, no less, and seeing how it doesn’t add up. Which, BTW, is not my fault, is it?
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Then you will need to explain to me what you find unacceptable about that sentence and what you think it means.
I can’t see what you are complaining about if I can’t understand how you interpret it.
Angemon says
Peggy posted:
“Then you will need to explain to me what you find unacceptable about that sentence and what you think it means.
I can’t see what you are complaining about if I can’t understand how you interpret it.”
Nice try, but no shoe. Your anger is selective and applicable only to what you can pin on America. That much is discernible from your posts – no interpretation necessary, just taking words at face value.
Peggy says
Are you there discussing what’s happening to Christians in Iran? Suggesting that no non-muslim nation should have no dealings with Iran?
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I will comment on any article I want to and say what I think.
If that bothers you, tough luck. I don’t have to explain myself to you or answer in any particular way that pleases you.
If you don’t like what I say then either ignore it or keep frothing at the mouth.
Angemon says
Peggy posted:
“I will comment on any article I want to and say what I think.”
Except, of course, on the articles you stated you’d discuss a specific issue – you’re not, unlike what you claim, discussing the persecution of Christians in Iran on topics mentioning Iran, are you? No, of course you’re not – you simply said that to oppose what I said, facts be damned. And now that I pointed out you didn’t do what you claim you’d do, you react with the grace of a raging bull on a china shop.
Perhaps you should start considering that it’s OK for others to do that – say what they think on whatever article they want. How many times you went after me and Wellington for speaking about Russia? The difference being, of course, that neither I nor Wellington are rude, arrogant, bossy pricks who back-pedal from claiming to discuss one issue under certain circumstances into claiming we’ll talk about whatever we want on any article we want.
Truth hurts, doesn’t it?
“If you don’t like what I say then either ignore it or keep frothing at the mouth.”
Again, not living in accordance to what you preach, eh, Peggy? As quick to go out of your way to attack me as you are to tell me to ignore what you say – the latter on the same post you claim you’ll comment on whatever article you want and say whatever you want (especially if it’s badmouthing me, it seems). What a shining role model of human behaviour!
No Fear says
Whenever I hear “Allahu akhbar” I know a non-muslim is going to die.
Baucent says
How long have we been saying “there is no moderate muslim opposition to Assad” and here is the evidence. And Obama and John McCain think these people are an improvement on Assad?
Benedict says
The murder of this child lies with Obama, being a Muslim that he is. He has encouraged this lot of rabble to run riot. And to think this lot is to govern Syria what a laugh. Also there is no such a group as “moderate fighters or Muslims” the ideology the same “Islam”
somehistory says
Yes, and any who helped in giving money and arms to these savages have bloody hands and will be held accountable.
STEVE says
Two things…one, the boy was raped by all those sewer rats, guaranteed. Two, where is the video of the beheading? Do I want to see it, not necessarily. But, if someone can hack into any major news site and run this video, it would finally knock some sense into those that think this butchery does not exist. Right now, the radical muslim, the terrorist muslim, the rapist muslim, the anti-gay muslim, the butcher muslim does not exist in the eyes and mind of most Americans. Most of the Europeans too, but that’s another post. Somehow, someway, The Jihad Watch articles and videos need to replace the “kinder and gentler” muslim garbage out there now. Like Nazism, a stake needs to be driven through the heart of Islam period before any sort of reform can begin. Those stakes could be as simple as an Assad, Saddam, Quadafi, etc or as large as a nuke. This problem will not and cannot go away unless it is quarantined and contained or eradicated completely.
gravenimage says
Steve, here’s the horrifying video of this poor child’s beheading:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kr1YTS-4Hzs
The act itself is pixilated, but you can see the knife and the growing pool of blood on the ground.
Bob Wittemeyer says
The Quran advocates killing. The Quran is the bible of Islam. Muslims are devout followers of Islam. They have been killing for thousands of years. This is nothing new. Wherein lies the confusion?
V says
Why are you hiding the face of the Murdered boy?
Come on stop sanitizing this evil.
Robert Spencer says
Someone else is hiding the face of the murdered boy, not Jihad Watch. We used that photo because it was the only one available.
Cecilia Ellis says
V, while Mailonline hid the face of this young boy, later news reports by other news agencies did not. You may view screenshots of the boy, taken from the posted video, at the following two websites:
http://globalnews.ca/news/2834922/syrian-rebel-group-accused-of-beheading-child-on-video/
http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/syrian-rebel-group-behead-young-boy/1/719429.html
If you enlarge the pictures, you cannot help but notice the extreme fear evident in the boy’s eyes. One of the articles even shows a post, released by one of the murderers, celebrating the savagery and revealing that the repulsive killers were still considering boiling his remains.
Peggy says
Angemon said:
The difference being, of course, that neither I nor Wellington are rude, arrogant, bossy pricks who back-pedal from claiming to discuss one issue under certain circumstances into claiming we’ll talk about whatever we want on any article we want.
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Why are you bringing wellington into this? I have not mentioned him nor have I said that he was an arrogant, bossy P.
You on the other hand are arrogant and quite rude. You have used the F word more than once while replying to me. You will not find one person I am rude toe for not agreeing with me, except for you but then I tried not to be for a while and just started treating you the way you treated me.
You again, have been rude to others and used fowl language like the F word when you don’t agree with them. I am not the only one you respond to in a rude manner while you are the only one I respond to in that way.
Could that be that you are the one who is actually rude and intolerant of other opinions?
Angemon says
Peggy posted:
“Why are you bringing wellington into this?”
I’m referencing an attitude you had in the past, where you went out of your way to defame me and Wellington. What, you’re so messed up in the head you can’t keep track of what you do?
“You on the other hand are arrogant and quite rude.”
Hilarious accusation coming from you:
“You have used the F word more than once while replying to me. ”
Can you link to an example? I use a lot of words containing the letter F. Why, some even start with it! Anyway, if it didn’t bother you when I allegedly used them, why is it bothering you now?
“You will not find one person I am rude toe for not agreeing with me, except for you”
Huh, Peggy? You *are* admitting you are rude to me because I have a dissenting view – I don’t agree with you, therefore you’re rude to me. Mouth, meet foot.
“but then I tried not to be for a while and just started treating you the way you treated me.”
This is, of course, false. *I*, not you, started treating you in the way you treat me, and that much can be deducted in context – you were rude to me for not agreeing with you, then you allegedly stopped for a while (which you didn’t) and then started again.
BTW, when I pointed out you did not, in fact, and contrary to what you claimed, talked about the persecution of Christians in Iran, you answer was:
Where’s me saying that you keep frothing at the mouth? Where’s me having a similar level of arrogance and rudeness? Certainly not in the posts you were replying to, so there goes your “I’m just treating you as you treat me” nonsense. This is your game, your mainstay, your bread and butter: crybullying. Insult others and play the victim – whatever it takes to draw the discussion away from the matter at hand.
“You again, have been rude to others and used fowl language like the F word when you don’t agree with them.”
“Fowl” language? Fiery-throated Fruiteater? Fan-tailed Raven? Please, link to an example of what you’re talking about. And again, if it didn’t bother you then, why is it bothering you now?
“I am not the only one you respond to in a rude manner while you are the only one I respond to in that way.”
Yes, you already told that – you’re rude to me because I disagree with you.
I called you out on your nonsense about Russia and China, and how they have tens of millions of muslims that every once in a while go on a fully fledged jihad, but you have decided to steer away by talking about me being rude or using “fowl” language.
Your pathetic attempts to draw attention away won’t work. Feel free to keep rambling and foaming about my alleged F words and rudeness – at the end of the day, you *know* that what I’m saying is right, and that others are reaching the same conclusion that I am – that’s what drives your blind rage against me. Rage, lie, insult, and play the victim – try to drag me into a mud-slinging fest to keep me from posting about issues you don’t like. Well, Peggy, it’s not going to work. You should know this by now, with all those times you tried and failed – you’re not going to drag me by the nose away from the focus of the discussion. And what’s that thing about doing the same thing over and over while expecting different results?
And isn’t it funny that you are talking about my alleged “fowl” language when, shortly you showed up on JW, you *defended* someone who posted:
Not only you *defended* that user, you also insulted the people who called “justine” (a.k.a. “justin” and very likely “Ex-muslim”) out on that by calling them liars. I guess you have a very selective sense of outrage – it’s ok to swear and insult others as long as it’s defending Russia, but heaven forbids if Angemon peppers any of his posts with “f***” or “s***”…
P.S.: If you’re so offended about my rudeness, why don’t you write JW staff and let them know of your problem? Maybe they can help you. Oh, wait, you already did that:
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2015/05/boston-marathon-jihad-murderers-mother-non-muslims-will-burn-in-flames-of-an-eternal-and-terrifying-fire-an-otherworldly-flame-inshaallah#comment-1240861
P.P.S.: Not knowing the difference between “fowl” and “foul” is the kind of mistake one would expect from someone to whom English is not their first language.
Peggy says
Wow, you really have no recollection of using the F word?
I am honoured that you keep all my posts tucked away somewhere. Do I unsettle you that much? That’s obsessive behaviour you know.
About this Justine you claim I defended.
How did I defend her and what exactly did I say? You obviously have every word I say tucked away somewhere so why didn’t you produce it?
When I point out that you are bullying someone and tell you that you are distorting what they say it isn’t defending them. It is telling you that you are overstepping.
It is to tell you that you are being rude and a bully.
I defend what I agree with and not the person unless they are distressed by it.
If I agree with something they say, I will let it be known.
Do you remember how far you went with your arrogance and bullying?
Here is something to refresh your memory.
Peggy says
May 20, 2015 at 9:28 am
I don’t know or I’ll be back . I thank you all for your support and love here friends . May the Lord Our G-d bless you and keep you all . Love : Ernie
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Ernie, I wish you good health and happiness.
You are a true gentleman and I for one will miss your kind words.
Hope to cross paths with you again.
Ernie says
May 21, 2015 at 6:14 am
Dear Peggy , I’m leaving , and not returning . I didn’t come to this blog to get abused : so to everybody who loved and/or respected me here : I thank you , and may the Lord our G-d bless you and keep you . I know I should pray for my haters , and forgive them ; in time that will happen , not now , the pain is to much .
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The only reply he got from Mirren is to toughen up and if you can’t stand the heat get out of the kitchen. In order words this site condones bullying, lies and harassment and if you can’t take it get lost.
If I don’t agree with something they say I will also let it be know.
I have agreed and disagreed with same people.
Again, the abuse of Jihadski and western canadian was bad enough and their language towards me was bad enough that I felt I needed to point that out.
If Marc feels that it’s ok to be vulgar and aggressive towards someone who doesn’t share your views then I will say it again. The standard is very low.
Angemon says
Peggy posted:
“Wow, you really have no recollection of using the F word?”
Like I said, can you link to an example? Show me where I allegedly used this word that is offending you so much. You know, prove my “fowl” language that got your panties in such a bunch.
“I am honoured that you keep all my posts tucked away somewhere.”
It’s called “email notifications”. You press a little checkbox and you get replies delivered to your email – infinite times more preferable to manually checking topics for replies.
It’s amazing what technology can do these days, isn’t it?
“Do I unsettle you that much? That’s obsessive behaviour you know.”
See above – email notifications. But keep this in the back of your head – the accusation that I’m “unsettled” or engaging in “obsessive behaviour” (can I see your diploma, Dr. Quack?) because I linked to an old post of her. There’s no way it’ll came to bite her in the ass, is it? Peggy certainly would never, ever do the same – link to an old post – after accusing me of “obsessive behaviour” for doing so – that would be sheer hypocrisy.
BTW, you consider lying about me and making baseless claims about my behaviour to be fair game, but heavens forbid it I write “f***” – literally like that, an F and three asterisks (search the page if you don’t believe me). Good to know you have your priorities straight…
“When I point out that you are bullying someone ”
LOL!!!! You? Accusing someone of bullying?!?!?! What a laugh, crybully – you insult and slander me, and you try to pass as the victim. If anyone here is a bully it’s you.
“I defend what I agree with and not the person unless they are distressed by it.”
So you defended “justine” because you agreed with what she wrote regarding the West and Westerners?
“Do you remember how far you went with your arrogance and bullying?”
What arrogance and bullying? The arrogant bully here is you, Peggy. You *admitted* that much when you said you were rude to me because I disagreed with you:
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2016/07/us-backed-syrian-rebels-screaming-allahu-akbar-behead-small-boy-as-spy#comment-1484686
“Here is something to refresh your memory.”
Oh, the irony! On the very same post Peggy accuses me of obsessive behaviour for linking to an old post of her, Peggy reproduces alleged old posts (at least I linked to the source) and tries to pretend the posts she wrote are related to my alleged “arrogance” and “bullying”, thus not only being twice as obsessed as she claimed I was, she also blatantly lies since those are posts I have nothing to do with. Truly, an unhinged mind grasping at any straw she believes she can conjure out of her ass.
Go ahead, Peggy – show me this alleged “fowl” language of mine that got you so upset. Then we’ll talk about the tens of millions of muslims living in a constant state of unrest in China and Russia and see why your assertion has no basis on reality.
LR says
Dang, this poor boy’s beheading turn’s into a lot of ‘hate America’, or hate ‘the west’ posts.
Sure, America and ‘the west’ screw up. Who doesn’t? And some are a disgusting hedonistic lot (don’t forget about the evil, hedonistic lot that thinks it’s fine to rape little boys, and girls and honor kill their own daughters)..So, just throw up your disgusted hands and let the barbarians take over…that’s always worked well in the world.
Sure, forget about the highest values ever implemented in the world, which has given rise to the greatest nation, and civil rights ever bestowed upon her people by a country.
Let’s just focus on the mistakes, and tragedies, and constantly pound away at that – that’s always a good tactic for disaster. Let’s just forget about what good has been created in the world, and succumb to the likes of monster Jihadi’s, murderous commie Chinese, and ruthless Russian tyranny.
Some of you don’t like ‘the West’? Sit back and wait ’till either a group, or one of these Jihadi psychopathic monsters gets a hold of a dirty bomb, or something worse. It should delight your sick, sadistic penchant for wishing the worst on the whole world.
gravenimage says
Very true, LR.
Peggy says
Angemon says:
“I defend what I agree with and not the person unless they are distressed by it.”
So you defended “justine” because you agreed with what she wrote regarding the West and Westerners?
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I have no recollection of that so do show where I defended her post.
Angemon says
Peggy posted:
“I have no recollection of that”
Ah, the good, old appeal to ignorance – a logical fallacy that’ll never go out of style.
“so do show where I defended her post.”
Oh-oh – do I detect a sleight of hand? Let’s take a good look what what I said – not at what Peggy implies I did:
With this in mind, why would Peggy be implying that I said she defended a specific post instead of, as I clearly and unmistakably expressed, I said she defended the *user* who posted that? Why indeed – why did Peggy went out of her way to build a strawman? Why did she ignore my repeated requests to show this alleged “fowl” language of mine that got her panties in a bunch? The answer, I believe, is very simple: to try to steer the discussion away from her argument, which I’ve rebutted – she claims the West needs to team up with Russia and China to fight islam, even though Russia and China have tens of millions of muslim citizens that every so often engage in jihad. It seems that was the driving force behind her strawman and sleight-of-hand – to drive the conversation away from facts.
Peggy says
So now you’re inside my head and know exactly what I can remember and what I can’t. You say it so it has to be true.
Again, I ask you to show me what and how I defended Justine. If you can’t do then then drop the subject.
I have demonstrated what your constant attacks can do to a person by re-posting something from someone you kept going at.
I haven’t yet seen you show an example of exactly what and how I defended Justine and her post.
You constantly call people liars and make statements you can’t possibly back up.
Now don’t take this as a defence of CB because that’s not what is going on here but I have noticed a while ago you said that he was a paid Russian troll.
I don’t know if he is or isn’t but if you are going to make a such a statement then you should be prepared to back it up with evidence. After all, you demand the same level of accountability from others.
Angemon says
Peggy posted:
“So now you’re inside my head and know exactly what I can remember and what I can’t. You say it so it has to be true.”
Smoke screen, sand-tossing, etc.
“Again, I ask you to show me what and how I defended Justine. If you can’t do then then drop the subject.”
No, not “again”. You *demanded* that I showed where you defended a specific post. I called you out and now you’re changing your tune. Again.
“I have demonstrated what your constant attacks can do to a person by re-posting something from someone you kept going at.”
Liar. I’m mentioned nowhere in those posts. Funny how someone complaining about me saw fit to leave my name out, even when naming users.
“I haven’t yet seen you show an example of exactly what and how I defended Justine and her post.”
Oh, another claim of “defending the post”, eh? More like another sleight of hand – again, look at what I wrote:
“You constantly call people liars”
Lol!!! You? Complaining that I call someone a liar? Hilarious. Did you never called someone a liar on JW? Did you never called me a liar? Did you not just lied when you claimed that the posts you reposted out of nowhere were talking about me? Where’s my name in there? In fact, let’s compare what you’re claiming now with what you wrote on that post:
On that post: “Again, the abuse of Jihadski and western canadian”
Now: “I have demonstrated what your constant attacks can do to a person by re-posting something from someone you kept going at”
You are insane. You can’t even keep a story straight. First you claim that the site has low standards (probably because there’s no way you can get rid of speech you don’t like speech you don’t like) and you bring up JP and WC as examples, then you claim that the posts you linked were, instead, about me. Is your hatred of me so overwhelming it affects the workings of your brain to the point where you can’t keep track of what you wrote two days ago? Is lying so natural to you you make up stories on the spot without any care or concern to be consistent with what you claimed before?
Make you your sick mind: were those posts about me or not? If you’re going to say yes, then explain how and why.
“and make statements you can’t possibly back up.”
Hey, remember that time you asked me to back what I said about CB defending Iran? How did that work out for you? Oh, yeah, I shoved his words in your face and you stopped responding. Simply slithered away. Oh, and remember that one time where you brought up two posts to say that the site has low standards and used JP and WC as example then claimed said posts were, instead, about me?
And you get all prissy if I call you a liar. Tsk tsk – have you tried NOT lying?
“Now don’t take this as a defence of CB because that’s not what is going on here”
Of course it is. It is also a red herring – you’re trying to draw the argument away from your lack of evidence regarding my alleged use of the “F-word” and from the discussion of facts – you claimed that the West needed to ally with Russia and China, who have tens of millions of muslim citizens living in a constant state of unrest and that every once in a while go jihadi. Not that we’d learn it from you.
“but I have noticed a while ago you said that he was a paid Russian troll.
I don’t know if he is or isn’t but if you are going to make a such a statement then you should be prepared to back it up with evidence.”
His posts are ALL the evidence needed, even without cross checking with the detailed documentation of Russian trolls acting online and accounts of former paid trolls detailing the behaviour they were expected to have and lines they were paid to push. Or do you expect him to come and say “I’m a paid Russian troll”? Because if you do then I have a bridge to sell…
(Get it? Bridge? Troll?)
“After all, you demand the same level of accountability from others.”
Speaking of which – and I’m asking you this for the third or fourth time – where’s this alleged “F-word” that I used that got your pants in a bunch? I keep asking you to link to it but it’s nowhere. It seems you’re yet trying to go on another irrelevant tangent to draw attention away from the fact that you have yet to account for what you claimed. You wrote:
Please link to the post containing the word that got your panties in a bunch.
Finally, a poem. A poem of peace. I call it “An Ode to Peggy”
*ahem*
Peggy flung another turd.
She claims I used the “F” word
But no evidence she can produce
To prove this alleged repeated abuse
Instead she tried a sleight-of-hand
Claims I said she defended a post and not the man
To make it quick, I’ll be short and blunt
Peggy’s acting like what Aussies call “a dumb c***”
Now, you ranted like a lunatic about me using the “F-word”. Again, please link to where I allegedly used this word that upset you so much. Then we can discuss the feasibility of allying with Russia (that’s sponsoring hatred of the West) and China (a rogue nation responsible for cyber attacks on American institutions) to combat islam (remember, China and Russia have tens of millions of muslim citizens )
Peggy says
Angemon, you are a very sick person indeed.
You don’t see that you go too far.
Angemon says
Peggy posted:
“Angemon, you are a very sick person indeed.”
Sure thing, Dr. Quack. Can I see your diploma? What? No diploma? OK then, I’ll get a second opinion from someone who does not hate me for my views.
“You don’t see that you go too far.”
You lie. A lot. Like I showed, you can’t keep a story straight. Two days ago you reposted a couple of posts and wrote:
Today you wrote:
Pointing out that you blatantly and shamelessly lie is not “going too far”, it’s “setting the record straight”. For f***’s sake, two days and your words are right there – I don’t even want to imagine how you act when talking to people, when what you say is not stored on a server somewhere. Where was I allegedly going at this “Ernie” person? Why, nowhere – it was all about me because you say so, even if you said something entirely different two days prior.
Now, about those tens of millions of muslims living in China and Russia who every once in a while go jihadi and your assertion that the West must join forces with Russia and China to defeat islam…
Peggy says
Angemon, I don’t hate for for starters but I am disgusted by you for your arrogance, immaturity and the way you like to look smart by trying to belittle others.
This is a symptom of someone who has a a need to always be right and pretend they know it all because they know just how insignificant they are.
Now you want evidence of you using the F word and won’t let it go until I produce it.
Here are some examples (apart from the example you just gave us in the post I am replying to).
Article:
Confirmed: top Saudi officials aided the 9/11 jihad plot.
• • Angemon says
July 21, 2016 at 1:27 pm
Trico posted:
“You are trying to convince people that not only don’t want to be convinced , I believe they are paid Agents making sure your 9/11 narrative goes no where. DAT Agent=Disinformation Attack Team Agent.”
“The CIA came up with the “Conspiracy Theorists” to discredit those who challenge the Official Government Narrative and it works and has also morphed into the labels “Truthers” and “Preppers”.”
Hold it right there. Don’t you *dare* try to conflate Preppers/Survivalists with “Conspiracy Theorists”. There’s a difference between learning how to live from the land and/or going off the grid and claiming 9/11 was an inside job or the war in Iraq was about oil. Don’t you f***ing dare
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Germany: leftist pol raped by Muslim migrants, lied to police to avoid encouraging racism.
ngemon says
July 7, 2016 at 7:37 am
Peggy posted:
“Maybe because she already told someone the truth and then had no choice?”
Oh, for f***’s sake. Do you even think? What are the odds that a devout muslima who lied about being raped by muslims and lied to protect islam would tell someone other than a similarly devout muslima? And why would a similarly devout muslima talk her into telling the truth because someone else – whose religion we don’t know – was raped?
and another one in the same article.
Angemon says
July 6, 2016 at 4:41 am
A young left-wing German politician has admitted she lied to police about the racial background of three men who raped her in case it triggered reprisals against refugees in her country.
F***ing hell – racists and concerned citizens? Are you really comparing concerned citizens to racists, as if they are, for all intents and purposes, the same thing? And again: your attackers *are* the problem – or at least a symptom of it *cough*openborderpolicy*cough*
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Now I haven’t put here entire posts because they are long but enough to give you where you used the word.
It seems like you can’t handle it when there is an opinion out there you don’t agree with and will go to extraordinary lengths to discredit it. You keep at it until the person starts ignoring you.
It’s a character flaw you know.
Angemon says
Peggy posted:
“Angemon, I don’t hate for for starters”
Your actions belie your words.
“but I am disgusted by you for your arrogance, immaturity and the way you like to look smart by trying to belittle others.”
Again, you’re projecting so hard you could run a Powerpoint presentation a mile away. “Arrogance” and “immaturity”? Do you want me to whip out the bitter invectives you throw in my general direction every so often? Do you need t be reminded of the crap you post?
“This is a symptom of someone who has a a need to always be right and pretend they know it all because they know just how insignificant they are.”
Again, Dr. Quack, can I see your diploma? A citation or something? Oh, wait, it’s so because you say so – and this is on the same post where you whine about my alleged “arrogance” and “immaturity”.
“Now you want evidence of you using the F word and won’t let it go until I produce it.”
And you write this, probably expecting to be taken seriously. in a reply to a post where I did NOT do such thing. Not that’s a surprise to me – I pointed out that you lied and tried to discuss your assertion, so it’s smokescreen time.
“Here are some examples (apart from the example you just gave us in the post I am replying to).”
All of them containing “f***” – like that, with the asterisks. Where’s the actual word? I guess that calling people insane, insulting them and pretending to be a psychiatrist online is OK by your book, but writing “f***”? Well, that’s where you draw the line! You have standards, after all – for other people, at least.
“Now I haven’t put here entire posts because they are long but enough to give you where you used the word.”
And again, this is in response to a post of mine where the matter was dropped in its entirety. Why you had to dig it up is beyond me – no, wait, I pointed out that you lied, so it’s a convenient distraction. I certainly don’t see you trying to explain the blatant lie you told – first you claimed that a post allegedly referring to PJ and WC was evidence of this site’s low standards, then you claimed it was a post proving that someone stopped posting because of me.
Shameless little liar, aren’t you?
“It seems like you can’t handle it when there is an opinion out there you don’t agree with and will go to extraordinary lengths to discredit it.”
That reminds me: how about the tens of millions of muslims living in Russia and China? Not willing to discuss it, are you? No, much better to claim I’m “insane” or talk about my alleged character flaws. Again – projection, powerpoint, mile away.
Now, do you want to discuss your assertion about an alliance with Russia (that’s sponsoring hatred of the West) and China (a rogue nation responsible for cyber attacks on American institutions) to combat islam or do you prefer to claim I can’t take dissenting opinions? This is, of course, after you apologize for the lie regarding the post you copy/pasted – you claimes you had “demonstrated what your constant attacks can do to a person by re-posting something from someone you kept going at” when not only there’s exactly zero evidence to back it up, there’s also your own words saying it was about PJ and WC.
Angemon says
Peggy:
“your arrogance, immaturity and the way you like to look smart by trying to belittle others.
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2016/05/russia-imam-gets-three-years-prison-had-weapons-and-explosives-in-mosque#comment-1444030
Projection, powerpoint, mile away, etc.
Angemon says
“It seems like you can’t handle it when there is an opinion out there you don’t agree with ”
Is that so? Let’s look into this angle. You wrote:
This is, of course, an opinion, much like saying “the Moon is made of cheese”, “the Holocaust is a hoax” or “9/11 was an inside job”.
What I wrote:
Russia and China *have* tens of millions of muslim citizens. Every once in a while we learn, despite the heavy restrictions on the freedom of press in those countries, that a muslim or one hundred went on a jihad rampage. Those are *facts*.
Seems like your assertion that I have a problem with opinions I don’t agree with is wrong. It is you, not I, who have a problem – a problem with facts that dare to go against your opinion…
Peggy says
“Now you want evidence of you using the F word and won’t let it go until I produce it.”
And you write this, probably expecting to be taken seriously. in a reply to a post where I did NOT do such thing. Not that’s a surprise to me – I pointed out that you lied and tried to discuss your assertion, so it’s smokescreen time.
I haven’t lied about anything.
Here are your words.
“After all, you demand the same level of accountability from others.”
Speaking of which – and I’m asking you this for the third or fourth time – where’s this alleged “F-word” that I used that got your pants in a bunch? I keep asking you to link to it but it’s nowhere. It seems you’re yet trying to go on another irrelevant tangent to draw attention away from the fact that you have yet to account for what you claimed. You wrote:
Angemon says
Peggy posted:
“I haven’t lied about anything.”
I asked you about the relevance of Ernie’s post and you wrote, on your post dated July 23, 2016 at 11:10 pm:
That, my dear, is a LIE. There’s no mention of me in that post. Where was I allegedly going at this “Ernie” person? Why, nowhere – it was all about me because you say so.
As for my words, that you’re trying to toss back at me in another of your bouts of childish tantrums, I’ll just point out the context and background. You wrote, on your post dated July 24, 2016 at 8:18 am:
That was in reply to my post dated July 24, 2016 at 7:30 am where anyone possessing at least basic reading and comprehension skills can see I had dropped the matter – I, to use your lexicon, “let it go”. You, on the other hand, pretended I didn’t.
Anyway, and for the nth time: how about those tens of millions of muslims living in China and Russia who every once in a while go jihadi and your assertion that the West must join forces with Russia and China to defeat islam – want to discuss it or do you prefer to engage in more of your childish tantrums and s*** flinging?
Peggy says
want to discuss it or do you prefer to engage in more of your childish tantrums and s*** flinging?
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No, that’s your MO.
I don’t want to engage in any discussion with you but you keep replying to my posts. Some of your replies I have not bothered but some really needed to be answered.
You are the one who brought up Muslims in Russia and China not me and I didn’t want to engage in a tiresome game with you so I didn’t address it.
I am not going to discuss any topics of your choosing and I wish I didn’t have to discuss any topics of you period but you won’t leave my posts alone.
I don’t have a problem discussing topics with anyone else and do but I don’t like any discussion with you but you can’t seem to leave me alone.
Why do you reply to my comments? If you didn’t bother with my comments there wouldn’t be any discussion between you and me.
Maybe you need to get some frustration out and choose my comments because you seem to get good traction from them.
Angemon says
Peggy posted:
“No, that’s your MO.”
Really? You cold have fooled me, seeing how all you’ve been doing is flinging s*** in my direction. For example:
Or
Just to point a few examples, and limiting to what you’ve said on this topic alone.
“I don’t want to engage in any discussion with you”
You don’t – not in the sense of “examining in an argument”. All you do is try to insult and discredit me because, as I’ve shown, you have a problem with facts.
“but you keep replying to my posts.”
Huh, so what? Does that mean you need to fling s*** in my direction? Accuse me of things I didn’t do? Lie?
“You are the one who brought up Muslims in Russia and China not me”
Why, yes – you only figured that out now? You claimed that “What is needed is for the three great powers, US, Russia and China to forget their grievances for now and take care of this evil first.“. I inquired you about your claim claim and pointed out, among other things, that China and Russia have tens of millions of muslim citizens living in a state of unrest and that every once in a while go jihadi.
How is the West supposed to learn “islam control” from China and Russia when they can’t keep their backyards in order?
“and I didn’t want to engage in a tiresome game with you so I didn’t address it.”
No, much better to fling s*** and insane accusations in my direction than to discuss the proposition *you* brought forth. You sure have your priorities straight…
“I am not going to discuss any topics of your choosing”
Let it be noted that the topic I was trying to discuss was *your* assertion regarding an alliance between the West, Russia and China.
“I don’t have a problem discussing topics with anyone else”
Yes, you already made it quite clear that your rudeness towards me is a voluntary choice.
“and do but I don’t like any discussion with you but you can’t seem to leave me alone.”
Ah, the good old crybullying – it’s not that I’m willing to discuss *your* assertions in the open marketplace of ideas and see if they hold up to scrutiny, it’s just that I “can’t seem to leave you alone”. Because your claims should have a special status exempting them from criticism, right?
“Why do you reply to my comments?”
Why do you reply to mine when you clearly state that you don’t “want to engage in any discussion” with me?
“If you didn’t bother with my comments there wouldn’t be any discussion between you and me.”
This is both hilarious and sad – I try to discuss, in good faith, your argument, you resort to s***-posting and somehow your childish, rude, arrogant and troll-like behaviour is my fault. If only your posts had a special status that exempted them from being scrutinized then everything would be fine…
You have a problem with dissenting thought. Criticism? Just troll the s*** out of the other party. Lie, insult, slander, defame them – everything to keep your posts safe from scrutiny. That’s what’s going on here.
“Maybe you need to get some frustration out and choose my comments because you seem to get good traction from them.”
And there goes the s*** flinging again. Oh well, you should know by now that I refuse to be led by the nose by trolls who are trying to push an agenda. So, about your assertion that the West needs to ally itself with Russia and China to defeat islam. All we’re waiting is for Russia and China to show they’re game. Russia could start by stop demonizing the West. China could stop the cyber attacks. Oh, wait, remind me again how many millions of muslim citizens Russia and China have, as well as which jihadi states they have dealings with? That’s right, both China and Russia have their own muslim infestations in their backyard to deal with. For decades, if not centuries. Why are they not leading by example? For f***s sake, just last month Russian authorities named a bridge in Saint Petersburg after a jihadi leader who told his followers to kill as many Russians as possible. That’s our only hope to beat the islamic menace? If so, we’re f***ed. No, our only hope lies in the US – as long as Hillary doesn’t win, that is. Maybe Europe – if I were to to trust the MSM, I’d believe there’s a marked increase in “islamophobia”. Since I’m sceptic, my guess is that the realization that islam is fundamentally incompatible with core Western values is on the rise. But Russia and China? With their many millions of muslims? Forget it.