You know, I just *cannot** fathom cretins like Considine. Does he really think **everyone** is simply too stupid to read the damned koran ?
pauk rhodessays
YES. He knows full well that 99% of none Muslims will not read The Koran know nothing at all about the Hadith, know nothing at all about how The Ulama and Sharia work, that there are 6 + forms of Jihad and not just the one The Greater Jihad / that of the sword as reported by the media and”practiced by a few extremists”, know nothing of Takiyya etc etc. I worked in all Mid East countries and in Pakistan. I worked for US / Canadian / UK companies. I met no one within those companies and in the wider societies that had any understanding at all about Islam. That included politicians and senior execs from big companies.Also MIrren 10 apologists / defenders of Islam will selectively quote from the Meccan Koran where Muhammed (PBUH) is complimentary about women.
gravenimagesays
Of all the whitewash of Islam, one of the most ludicrous is the idea that it is pro-women’s rights. Just grotesque.
FGM, forced veiling, Purdah, legal second-class citizenship, child marriage, forced marriage, polygamy, summary divorce (the “Triple Talaq”, used against women only), wife beating, rape, “Honor Killing”, sex slavery, and the horror of stonings, even for rape victims–Islam is a horror show for women.
Manuelesays
Now I am suffering very bad diarrhea at that “MUHAMMAD PROMOTING WOMEN RIGHTS”.
Champsays
The “Basics of Islam” series is excellent, and I’m learning so much from each video.
And in this video we learn about the teachings from the quran on how a husband is to treat his wife, and they’re absolutely appalling and evil …
Juxtapose this evil view from the unholy quran with what the Holy Bible teaches husbands about their wives:
“Husbands, love your wives and do not be harsh with them.” — Colossians 3:19
And …
“Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her to make her holy, cleansing her by the washing with water through the word, and to present her to himself as a radiant church, without stain or wrinkle or any other blemish, but holy and blameless. In this same way, husbands ought to love their wives as their own bodies. He who loves his wife loves himself. After all, no one ever hated their own body, but they feed and care for their body, just as Christ does the church—for we are members of his body. For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh. This is a profound mystery—but I am talking about Christ and the church. However, each one of you also must love his wife as he loves himself, and the wife must respect her husband.” — Esphesians 5:25-33
This is how my husband treats me, and I am *so* thankful that he follows the word of God. This is how the one true God wants husbands to treat their wives …not like meaningless slaves, which is what islam teaches.
Mirren10says
Just one of **many** differences between islam and Christianity, Champ. And other decent religions also. islam is simply 100% **Evil**.
Champsays
Indeed, Mirren10! …islam is *wholly* evil!
Westmansays
A Christian woman cries for her husband when he dies. A Muslim woman in a Muslim country cries for what will happen to her when her husband dies.
I am totally horrified about this religion and the garbage it teaches. I have never read such trash in my life. I will take it all away and dump it into trash can/rubbish bin where it belongs!!! As far as I am concerned I can only believe in the Creator of Heaven and Earth and everything good that was created. More than this is nothing to hope for so do not waste your time on anything else. Jesus (Yeshua’s) teachings are the best lessons to live by. Beyond that there is nothing else. I feel sorry for all the women and little girls chained by Islamic teachings and suffering from them!
pauk rhodessays
Dear Shirley. I spent much of my life working / travelling around the Mid East / Pakistan. Many Muslim countries are “moderate” but in particular Saudi / Iran / Pakistan are very very hard on women. They have religious police who ensure that all of the rules are observed. My interpreter in Tehran in 1997 was arrested for “re education” for laughing with a foreigner and for showing to much hair. Of course those countries who apply Sharia are particularly harsh for women and there are still stoneings in places. Even seemingly moderate Muslim societies can be very deceptive. It is an obligation on all Muslims to convert the world to “the one true faith” by one means or another. Doesn’t matter how long it takes.
Champsays
Amen, Shirley, I *completely* agree!
gravenimagesays
All true, Champ–compare and contrast.
Champsays
Thank you, Graven. And everything islam teaches about women, about life, about anything–really, is the complete opposite of what Jesus taught His followers; including what Jesus’ disciples taught, too.
Wellingtonsays
All true and damning as Robert Spencer details but this will not stop Western academics aplenty (Western politicians and Western media types too) from continuing to purvey the mendacity that Islam honors women. So, again can be seen that malevolency is not the ultimate problem, problem though it surely is, but rather the cover-up for malevolency, as Ayn Rand pointed out with crystal clarity.
The West right now is in deep trouble first and foremost not because of Islam, despicable belief system though it be, but rather because of the continued excuse making for this belief system by willfully ignorant Westerners aplenty. Jeh Johnson comes to mind. So does John Kerry. Ditto for John McCain and Paul Ryan. Sadly, this list of fools is almost an endless one.
mortimersays
Clearly, dozens of hadiths reveal Islam’s hatred of women.
-the majority in hell are ungrateful, unsubmissive wives
– I think that women were created for nothing but evil
– Women have ten ‘awrat (vulvas). When she gets married, the husband covers one, and when she dies the grave covers the ten (of her shameful parts)
– A straw mat in the corner of the house is preferable to a barren woman
– Women are toys, so choose (your ‘toys’)
– The woman is a toy, whoever takes her, let him care for her [ or do not lose her ]
– Had it not been for women, God would have truly, truly been worshipped
– Men perished the day they obeyed the women
– Obedience to a woman’s advice causes regret
– Consult women and act contrary (to it)
– Sneezing, drowsing, yawning in prayer, also menstruation, vomiting and nose-bleeding are from Satan
– When…your affairs are in the hands of your women, the interior of the earth (hell) will be the better for you than its surface
– If a woman offered one of her breasts to be cooked and the other to be roasted, she still will fall short of fulfilling her obligations to her husband. And besides that if she disobeys her husband even for a twinkling of an eye, she would be thrown in the lowest part of Hell, except she repents and turns back
– Mohammed asked some women, “Isn’t the witness of a woman equal to half that of a man?” The women said, “Yes,” He said, “This is because of the deficiency of the woman’s mind.”
– I have not seen any one more deficient in intelligence and religion than you (women)
– I was shown the Hell-fire and that the majority of its dwellers are women.
– Bad omen is in the woman, the house and the horse
– After me I have not left any affliction more harmful to men than women
– Don’t wear false hair for Allah sends His curse upon such ladies who lengthen their hair artificially
– Treat women well for they are like domestic animals and they possess nothing themselves.
– Women, slaves and camels are the same
– Prayer is annulled by a dog, a donkey and a woman
Thank you for that comprehensive and disgusting list, Mortimer.
Michael Copelandsays
There is a devastating difference between “disobedient wives” (voice-over) and “those from whom ye fear rebellion” (reading of the Koran).
To qualify for a beating a wife does not need to be disobedient: that is not the test.
The wife can be a model of diligence and obedience.
The test is if the husband FEAR rebellion or disobedience.
It is thus completely open-ended.
The husband controls the matter.
gravenimagesays
You are right that a Muslim can beat his wife if he so much as *fears* disobedience–but this is disgusting, in any case. A man need not obey his wife, of course. And there is no sense of equality in Islam at all.
Mirren10says
”The test is if the husband FEAR rebellion or disobedience.”
Well said. As you note, it is an completely open-ended Abuser’s Charter. Shudder.
John Kerry, the gigolo, sticks out his tongue every few seconds like a snake. It’s to test the gullible audience for any doubters.
solange silvermansays
In other words, Islam is a cult written and created, so that misogynistic and perverted men can do whatever they want.
Nigel GFFsays
What I find truly Awe Inspiring is the silence of those venerable groups busily examining the ‘glass-ceiling’ for chinks.
Elizabethsays
Nigel,
Feminists (like me) who point out the misogyny of Islam are met with the same accusations of racism/Islamophobia as anyone else. For that matter, ex-Muslim feminists are themselves accused of Islamophobia for their criticism of Islam.
It seems it is a question of the irrational left versus everyone else.
I think those on the irrational left who call themselves “feminists” have simply misappropriated the word. By their definition, “feminism” no longer means equality between you and me, it means something bizarre and incomprehensible to both of us.
Islam in its current form is incompatible with feminism. Real, thinking feminists agree with you about that.
Angemonsays
Elizabeth posted:
“I think those on the irrational left who call themselves “feminists” have simply misappropriated the word. By their definition, “feminism” no longer means equality between you and me, it means something bizarre and incomprehensible to both of us.”
Indeed. So-called “feminists” like to state the dictionary definition and say they’re all for equality and against gender-based discrimination while leaving out that, according to them, there’s lack of equality (of results) and therefore the only way to correct said lack of equality is to enforce gender-based discrimination.
gravenimagesays
*Excellent* piece–concise, illuminating, and utterly shocking for someone not already familiar with this savagery.
Champsays
Years ago a muslim left a comment here defending the beating of wives and stated that it was to ‘be done lightly’ …and he thought that this was REASONABLE and fair. Discussing this with him was like talking to a wall. They are completely convinced that physical abuse is a-ok. Insane!
Kaysays
I see that National Organization of Women has come out against Pence.
I have sent info about the recent Pakistani murder.
If you can, please try to inform feminists about these Islamic dangers to women.
We need feminists to work with us. They may be late-comers, but they are important to include.
Jay Boo says
Grateful sex slaves.
Many of the supposedly ungrateful women in Muhammad’s time were captured sex slaves who were beaten on a regular basis.
No wonder they poisoned Muhammad.
Angemon says
Meanwhile, according to Dr. Craig “I Love Prophet Muhammad PBUH” Considine:
https://craigconsidinetcd.com/2016/07/03/believe-it-or-not-prophet-muhammad-promoted-womens-rights/
Stomach turning.
Mirren10 says
Errrgh ! Yep, stomach turning.
You know, I just *cannot** fathom cretins like Considine. Does he really think **everyone** is simply too stupid to read the damned koran ?
pauk rhodes says
YES. He knows full well that 99% of none Muslims will not read The Koran know nothing at all about the Hadith, know nothing at all about how The Ulama and Sharia work, that there are 6 + forms of Jihad and not just the one The Greater Jihad / that of the sword as reported by the media and”practiced by a few extremists”, know nothing of Takiyya etc etc. I worked in all Mid East countries and in Pakistan. I worked for US / Canadian / UK companies. I met no one within those companies and in the wider societies that had any understanding at all about Islam. That included politicians and senior execs from big companies.Also MIrren 10 apologists / defenders of Islam will selectively quote from the Meccan Koran where Muhammed (PBUH) is complimentary about women.
gravenimage says
Of all the whitewash of Islam, one of the most ludicrous is the idea that it is pro-women’s rights. Just grotesque.
FGM, forced veiling, Purdah, legal second-class citizenship, child marriage, forced marriage, polygamy, summary divorce (the “Triple Talaq”, used against women only), wife beating, rape, “Honor Killing”, sex slavery, and the horror of stonings, even for rape victims–Islam is a horror show for women.
Manuele says
Now I am suffering very bad diarrhea at that “MUHAMMAD PROMOTING WOMEN RIGHTS”.
Champ says
The “Basics of Islam” series is excellent, and I’m learning so much from each video.
And in this video we learn about the teachings from the quran on how a husband is to treat his wife, and they’re absolutely appalling and evil …
Juxtapose this evil view from the unholy quran with what the Holy Bible teaches husbands about their wives:
“Husbands, love your wives and do not be harsh with them.” — Colossians 3:19
And …
“Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her to make her holy, cleansing her by the washing with water through the word, and to present her to himself as a radiant church, without stain or wrinkle or any other blemish, but holy and blameless. In this same way, husbands ought to love their wives as their own bodies. He who loves his wife loves himself. After all, no one ever hated their own body, but they feed and care for their body, just as Christ does the church—for we are members of his body. For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh. This is a profound mystery—but I am talking about Christ and the church. However, each one of you also must love his wife as he loves himself, and the wife must respect her husband.” — Esphesians 5:25-33
This is how my husband treats me, and I am *so* thankful that he follows the word of God. This is how the one true God wants husbands to treat their wives …not like meaningless slaves, which is what islam teaches.
Mirren10 says
Just one of **many** differences between islam and Christianity, Champ. And other decent religions also. islam is simply 100% **Evil**.
Champ says
Indeed, Mirren10! …islam is *wholly* evil!
Westman says
A Christian woman cries for her husband when he dies. A Muslim woman in a Muslim country cries for what will happen to her when her husband dies.
Shirley Dressler says
I am totally horrified about this religion and the garbage it teaches. I have never read such trash in my life. I will take it all away and dump it into trash can/rubbish bin where it belongs!!! As far as I am concerned I can only believe in the Creator of Heaven and Earth and everything good that was created. More than this is nothing to hope for so do not waste your time on anything else. Jesus (Yeshua’s) teachings are the best lessons to live by. Beyond that there is nothing else. I feel sorry for all the women and little girls chained by Islamic teachings and suffering from them!
pauk rhodes says
Dear Shirley. I spent much of my life working / travelling around the Mid East / Pakistan. Many Muslim countries are “moderate” but in particular Saudi / Iran / Pakistan are very very hard on women. They have religious police who ensure that all of the rules are observed. My interpreter in Tehran in 1997 was arrested for “re education” for laughing with a foreigner and for showing to much hair. Of course those countries who apply Sharia are particularly harsh for women and there are still stoneings in places. Even seemingly moderate Muslim societies can be very deceptive. It is an obligation on all Muslims to convert the world to “the one true faith” by one means or another. Doesn’t matter how long it takes.
Champ says
Amen, Shirley, I *completely* agree!
gravenimage says
All true, Champ–compare and contrast.
Champ says
Thank you, Graven. And everything islam teaches about women, about life, about anything–really, is the complete opposite of what Jesus taught His followers; including what Jesus’ disciples taught, too.
Wellington says
All true and damning as Robert Spencer details but this will not stop Western academics aplenty (Western politicians and Western media types too) from continuing to purvey the mendacity that Islam honors women. So, again can be seen that malevolency is not the ultimate problem, problem though it surely is, but rather the cover-up for malevolency, as Ayn Rand pointed out with crystal clarity.
The West right now is in deep trouble first and foremost not because of Islam, despicable belief system though it be, but rather because of the continued excuse making for this belief system by willfully ignorant Westerners aplenty. Jeh Johnson comes to mind. So does John Kerry. Ditto for John McCain and Paul Ryan. Sadly, this list of fools is almost an endless one.
mortimer says
Clearly, dozens of hadiths reveal Islam’s hatred of women.
-the majority in hell are ungrateful, unsubmissive wives
– I think that women were created for nothing but evil
– Women have ten ‘awrat (vulvas). When she gets married, the husband covers one, and when she dies the grave covers the ten (of her shameful parts)
– A straw mat in the corner of the house is preferable to a barren woman
– Women are toys, so choose (your ‘toys’)
– The woman is a toy, whoever takes her, let him care for her [ or do not lose her ]
– Had it not been for women, God would have truly, truly been worshipped
– Men perished the day they obeyed the women
– Obedience to a woman’s advice causes regret
– Consult women and act contrary (to it)
– Sneezing, drowsing, yawning in prayer, also menstruation, vomiting and nose-bleeding are from Satan
– When…your affairs are in the hands of your women, the interior of the earth (hell) will be the better for you than its surface
– If a woman offered one of her breasts to be cooked and the other to be roasted, she still will fall short of fulfilling her obligations to her husband. And besides that if she disobeys her husband even for a twinkling of an eye, she would be thrown in the lowest part of Hell, except she repents and turns back
– Mohammed asked some women, “Isn’t the witness of a woman equal to half that of a man?” The women said, “Yes,” He said, “This is because of the deficiency of the woman’s mind.”
– I have not seen any one more deficient in intelligence and religion than you (women)
– I was shown the Hell-fire and that the majority of its dwellers are women.
– Bad omen is in the woman, the house and the horse
– After me I have not left any affliction more harmful to men than women
– Don’t wear false hair for Allah sends His curse upon such ladies who lengthen their hair artificially
– Treat women well for they are like domestic animals and they possess nothing themselves.
– Women, slaves and camels are the same
– Prayer is annulled by a dog, a donkey and a woman
WorkingClassPost says
What a sick and distorted person he was.
gravenimage says
Thank you for that comprehensive and disgusting list, Mortimer.
Michael Copeland says
There is a devastating difference between “disobedient wives” (voice-over) and “those from whom ye fear rebellion” (reading of the Koran).
To qualify for a beating a wife does not need to be disobedient: that is not the test.
The wife can be a model of diligence and obedience.
The test is if the husband FEAR rebellion or disobedience.
It is thus completely open-ended.
The husband controls the matter.
gravenimage says
You are right that a Muslim can beat his wife if he so much as *fears* disobedience–but this is disgusting, in any case. A man need not obey his wife, of course. And there is no sense of equality in Islam at all.
Mirren10 says
”The test is if the husband FEAR rebellion or disobedience.”
Well said. As you note, it is an completely open-ended Abuser’s Charter. Shudder.
Bukkdem Jizheads says
Islam: The Religion of Gonads.
John Kerry, the gigolo, sticks out his tongue every few seconds like a snake. It’s to test the gullible audience for any doubters.
solange silverman says
In other words, Islam is a cult written and created, so that misogynistic and perverted men can do whatever they want.
Nigel GFF says
What I find truly Awe Inspiring is the silence of those venerable groups busily examining the ‘glass-ceiling’ for chinks.
Elizabeth says
Nigel,
Feminists (like me) who point out the misogyny of Islam are met with the same accusations of racism/Islamophobia as anyone else. For that matter, ex-Muslim feminists are themselves accused of Islamophobia for their criticism of Islam.
It seems it is a question of the irrational left versus everyone else.
I think those on the irrational left who call themselves “feminists” have simply misappropriated the word. By their definition, “feminism” no longer means equality between you and me, it means something bizarre and incomprehensible to both of us.
Islam in its current form is incompatible with feminism. Real, thinking feminists agree with you about that.
Angemon says
Elizabeth posted:
“I think those on the irrational left who call themselves “feminists” have simply misappropriated the word. By their definition, “feminism” no longer means equality between you and me, it means something bizarre and incomprehensible to both of us.”
Indeed. So-called “feminists” like to state the dictionary definition and say they’re all for equality and against gender-based discrimination while leaving out that, according to them, there’s lack of equality (of results) and therefore the only way to correct said lack of equality is to enforce gender-based discrimination.
gravenimage says
*Excellent* piece–concise, illuminating, and utterly shocking for someone not already familiar with this savagery.
Champ says
Years ago a muslim left a comment here defending the beating of wives and stated that it was to ‘be done lightly’ …and he thought that this was REASONABLE and fair. Discussing this with him was like talking to a wall. They are completely convinced that physical abuse is a-ok. Insane!
Kay says
I see that National Organization of Women has come out against Pence.
I have sent info about the recent Pakistani murder.
If you can, please try to inform feminists about these Islamic dangers to women.
We need feminists to work with us. They may be late-comers, but they are important to include.