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California: Man who killed grandparents was influenced by jihadis

Aug 21, 2016 12:11 pm By Robert Spencer

From the information available in this account, Nathaniel Scheiern doesn’t appear to be a Muslim, or at least was not known to be one; yet he was “infatuated with and influenced by radical Islamists” to the extent of killing and trying to behead his grandparents after coming home with them from a church service.

Psychopaths who are fascinated by violence and death will naturally be drawn to those who belong to a cult of violence and death, whether or not they actually join it. Jihad murders will spawn copycats.

Glendale Scheiern

“Man accused of killing grandparents was influenced by radical Islamists, police say,” by Alene Tchekmedyian, Glendale News-Press, August 17, 2016 (thanks to DC Watson):

A 35-year-old man accused of bludgeoning his foster grandparents to death last year in their Glendale home using an ax and a hammer was held to answer Tuesday to capital murder charges.

After a preliminary hearing that lasted under two hours, a judge ruled there was enough evidence to move forward with a trial against Nathaniel Scheiern, who police said was infatuated with and influenced by radical Islamists when he attacked his grandparents after attending church with them one weeknight in June of last year.

His public defender, Christina Behle, declined to comment on the case, but suggested during cross-examination of a detective that her client had been molested by his grandfather at a young age. Police called the allegations “unfounded.”

The homicide investigation began on the morning of June 28 of last year, when Scheiern’s sister called and asked Glendale police to check the well-being of her grandparents, who lived with Scheiern in a single-family home in the 600 block of Alexander Street.

When the first officer — one of four who testified Tuesday — arrived at the home, he found the front door ajar and several newspapers stacked on the porch. A foul order emanated from inside, where in a bedroom, the carpet and walls were covered in dried blood.

Investigators found two decomposing bodies under a blanket on a twin-sized bed in that room. They were later identified as William and Verna Scheiern, 77 and 82 years old, respectively.

On the floor a few feet away, police found a bloodied hammer. Against a wall in the living room, they found an ax, with dried blood on the head and handle.

That day, police tracked down Nathaniel Scheiern to the Henry Mayo Newhall Hospital emergency room, where he was being treated for injuries after a car crash on June 25, the day after the killings.

When he was released from the hospital a few days later, he was arrested on suspicion of murder.

During an interview with detectives at the Glendale police station that day, Nathaniel Scheiern confessed to killing his grandparents and trying to behead them after they’d attended an event at Calvary Bible Church, Glendale Police Det. Jeff Davis testified. The elderly couple frequented the church about twice a week….

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  1. Angemon says

    Aug 21, 2016 at 12:19 pm

    A full grown “man” killing an elderly couple? Well, he gets islamic courage, I’ll give him that…

  2. Moses says

    Aug 21, 2016 at 12:21 pm

    It doesn’t get as evil as ISLAM what other religion can make someone to kill their grandparents of all people.

    • Kay says

      Aug 21, 2016 at 12:33 pm

      Makes more sense now. I remember hearing about this atrocity without the connection to the religion of peace (sic) when it seemed just randomly horrible.

  3. Michael Laudahn says

    Aug 21, 2016 at 12:25 pm

    ‘A foul order emanated…’: order [sic] probably? (odour)

  4. Berengaria says

    Aug 21, 2016 at 12:28 pm

    What possible reason for a 35 yr old male to live with his Grandparents, & then later kill them, is the simple answer, MONEY! Now, we have not only money, but the Murder Cult of Islam.
    Most Grandparents know what kind of Grands, they have, & this is why Smart Grandparents do not invite Muslims into share their home, even if he is their Grandson.
    This nut will probably never be put away, but continue to live off others & sponge his way through life.

    • gravenimage says

      Aug 21, 2016 at 3:23 pm

      I doubt Nathaniel Scheiern killed his grandparents for money. From descriptions I’ve read, it appears he did little to attempt to hide his being the killer, as he would have if he expected to inherit anything.

      Some people assume that the only possible motive for savagery is money, but many times this is not the case.

  5. Richard Paulsen says

    Aug 21, 2016 at 2:12 pm

    It is crazy allowing islam being spread. Only folls allow.

    • Richard Paulsen says

      Aug 21, 2016 at 2:13 pm

      Correction: Only fools allowing.

  6. Jerry Zavage says

    Aug 21, 2016 at 2:27 pm

    This unending series of Islamic or Islamophile people murdering others brings this phrase to my mind: “Nine out of ten criminally insane individuals prefer Islam.”

    • Gungadin says

      Aug 22, 2016 at 6:30 am

      @ Jerry……..If memory serves me correctly…………..I thought it was CAMELS……

  7. gravenimage says

    Aug 21, 2016 at 3:35 pm

    California: Man who killed grandparents was influenced by jihadis
    ………………………

    This poor couple, just trying to help out their loser grandson.

    Did Nathaniel Scheiern convert to Islam? If so, he likely had a Muslim name–but since such “reverts” seldom change their names in Infidel courts, they rarely wind up in official reports.

    It is also possible that he never did formally convert, but was just drawn to the bloody savagery of Islam.

    Either way, Islam made its baleful influence felt.

  8. Champ says

    Aug 21, 2016 at 3:50 pm

    “…Nathaniel Scheiern confessed to killing his grandparents and trying to behead them after they’d attended an event at Calvary Bible Church”

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    He *tried* to behead them? Guess he just wasn’t devout enough because a true mohammedan would have beheaded them successfully …

    Oh well, he still gets points with allah for savagely murdering two Christians. And the fact that they were his grandparents is of no importance to a true barbarian slave of allah.

    islam = the ‘religion’ of murder & mayhem whom take no prisoners.

  9. billybob says

    Aug 21, 2016 at 4:22 pm

    BREAKING! NY Post: Huma Abedin Has 10-Year Tie to Radical Muslim Mag

    Huma Abedin, a top aide for Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton’s campaign, had ties to a radical Muslim journal for 10 years on which her mother still serves as editor-in-chief, as the New York Post’s Paul Sperry wrote Sunday morning.

    During the time Abedin was an editor, the journal published stories opposing women’s rights and blamed U.S. policy for the Sept. 11 attacks, as Sperry chronicled.

    http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/huma-abedin-ties-muslim-magazine/2016/08/21/id/744494/

    • billybob says

      Aug 21, 2016 at 4:34 pm

      I should have linked directly to the NY Post article instead of to an article about that article.

      http://nypost.com/2016/08/21/huma-abedin-worked-at-a-radical-muslim-journal-for-10-years/

      • rara says

        Aug 21, 2016 at 6:26 pm

        A few days ago:

        http://www.breitbart.com/radio/2016/08/18/roger-stone-clinton-aide-huma-abedin-get-security-clearance-given-clear-ties-radical-offshoot-islam/

    • gravenimage says

      Aug 22, 2016 at 9:05 pm

      Thanks.

  10. Oliver says

    Aug 21, 2016 at 5:18 pm

    His defender suggested that he might have been molested by his grandfather at a young age.

    So, at 35-living with them-he kills them?

    This crap about abuse (I know, it happens) as an excuse for everything -in my opinion-is out of control. Especially if it never happened. (In my own family, a cousin-now almost 70–a few years ago, said her father molested her when she was 10 or 11. SHE KNEW IT WAS TRUE-SHE DREAMED IT, AFTER BEING AT A PARTY AND HAVING SEVERAL DRINKS, BEFORE GOING HOME, AND TO SLEEP.

    (And, her father had been dead for over 20 years when she had this dream.). (and, he was very Puritanical and strait laced).

    She used this as to why her marriage failed; her other relationships failed; etc. Nothing was her fault. She never made a wrong decision.

    Seems the same here- grandpa abused him so decades later he kills him. What bs excuse for this useless piece of shit excuse for a person.

    Makes more sense that he wanted to kill for the thrill; or for money; of for ISlam; or because he is a sick piece of shit.

    Just my rants and views

  11. Champ says

    Aug 22, 2016 at 1:15 am

    “When you hear of beheading, do you assume that Islam is involved? Beheading is an integral part of Islam. Mohammed repeatedly ordered people beheaded and the Koran even includes beheading. Beheading is threatened to settle arguments about Islam. Men were threatened with beheading if they did not become a Muslim. Beheading is mentioned nine times in the Hadith of Bukhari, once in the Koran and 41 times in the Sira. Beheading is recommended and common in the doctrine of Islam.”

    • gravenimage says

      Aug 22, 2016 at 9:07 pm

      Thanks for posting this, Champ.

  12. UNCLE VLADDI says

    Aug 22, 2016 at 5:10 am

    Re: “Psychopaths who are fascinated by violence and death will naturally be drawn to those who belong to a cult of violence and death, whether or not they actually join it. Jihad murders will spawn copycats.”

    Which is both how and why islam itself spawns its “muslims!”

    Muhammad himself was a cowardly psychotic criminal who wrote a book of lies telling everyone else what fun it was to be him.

    No other “motivations” need be sought in cases of “Sudden Jihad Syndrome” today!

    This is so simple even a leftist can (but probably won’t want to) get it:

    Muhammad rode around Arabia robbing enslaving and murdering people for “disbelieving” in his “unknown and unknowable god.”

    HOW THE HELL CAN ANYONE “BELIEVE” IN AN “UNKNOWABLE” GOD?!

    If and when you claim your god is unknowable, you’re the one who is limiting it’s ability to explain itself! You’re the one who is basically saying it doesn’t exist! You’re the one saying that your “god” isn’t a personal or compassionate one, but is one which either can’t or chooses not to relate to its subjects! You’re the atheist, and your version of a ‘god’ doesn’t exist!

    The rest of the illiterate ancient Arabs should have caught on right there, but didn’t – Muhammad’s alleged enslavement by “allah” was always only an alibi to excuse his own criminal plunder-lusts and actions.

    When your ‘god’ is really only generally “everything!” then it’s also only specifically NOTHING!

    Existentialism IS nihilism!

    CASE CLOSED!

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