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California Muslim who killed grandparents: “Praise be to Allah who [ will ] in searing pain smite my enimies with haste”

Aug 21, 2016 7:22 pm By Robert Spencer

It seems clear from his Facebook page that Nathaniel Scheiern, who killed and tried to behead his grandparents, was a convert to Islam, not just a rage-filled loser with a taste for Islamic State beheading videos.

Scheiern praise be to allah

Entries on his Facebook page include semi-literate but unmistakable declarations of Islamic faith (the brackets are not interpolations by me or anyone else; they’re in the originals):

“Ponder no [ more ] and bombs to cease [ unwise strikes of Believers ] on ( Allah’s children, women, and the Elderly and the young ) who fight but by Example in except concepts to for (God and God alone) guidence and spiritual growth. One love n respect”

“None in mans wisdom can allow a [leader] to fall into the ways of those [ Secure ] in faith and full of patients lacking [ Allah ] and thus far from [ patience ] of (God) so the answer is up to free-will. And FREE I WILL (God willing) [His] Peoples Mind.”

“Rivers of punishment flow to [ advise ] for only God demands Praise.”

“Want Allah in All. !”

“Praise be to Allah who [ will ] in searing pain smite my enimies with haste … its not a race if quickness .but of [ Waste ] no more time in [ Staying ] pious and [ true ] in patiently waving.”

Scheiern masjid

So why did the Los Angeles Times/Glendale News-Press in its new story on this case, and Westword below, leave out this information and give the impression that Scheiern was just a creep who enjoyed the occasional Islamic State video and unaccountably ended up killing and trying to behead his grandparents?

We shouldn’t have to read the tea leaves in mainstream media accounts to find out what is going on. But we do.

nathaniel.scheiern

An update on this story. “Nathaniel Scheiern Posted Beheading Video Before Grandparents’ Slaying,” by Michael Roberts, Westword, July 10, 2015:

The video onetime Coloradan Nathaniel Scheiern posted on his Facebook page circa May 4 comes with an all-caps warning/message: “GRAPHIC FOOTAGE. ADULTS ONLY. LESSONS WITH LIFE’S TESTS MAKES EASY A`s!

The clip appears to be an ISIS terror video — and we’re not sharing it here because invective is followed by scenes of people being beheaded.

It’s too soon to know if material like this has any relation to the Glendale, California murders of Scheiern’s grandparents, William and Verna, for which Nathaniel was formally charged this week. But an autopsy reported cited by the Glendale News-Press reveals that William and Verna, ages 77 and 82 respectively, died of “blood loss from traumatic injuries.”

Nathaniel had reportedly been living with his grandparents for about a year because he was “troubled.”

Some of his difficulties were likely due to regular run-ins with law-enforcement departments in Colorado.

In 2007, he was again sharing the company of Weld County deputies owing to a parole violation — and in 2008, the agency put him on the hook for alleged criminal mischief and harassment, among other things.

January 2013 marked a jurisdiction switch. That time, he was busted in Jefferson County on a third-degree assault beef — and it appears he did some time related to it.

During December of 2013, he supplemented a photo of himself with this post: “Well I jus got outta the pokey n I missed a lot of people this past year. I apologize to my family who hurt the most but time for a better year. I missed you much friends n family. One Love kiddos.”

He appears to have still been in Colorado the following May, when he affixed a similar caption to the image at the top of his post: “Lifted…. 303 one love.”

William and Verna gave him a place to say at some point after that — the kind of largesse for which they were well known in their area.

“She was a very generous lady,” one neighbor said of Verna, noting that she’d paid for Nathaniel to get some dental work done. “She didn’t deserve this.”

We don’t yet know what else Nathaniel was doing in California. But it’s clear that something terrible happened there late last month.

The bodies of William and Verna were found on Sunday, June 28, after police were called to their home to conduct a welfare check. The door was open, and police quickly came to the conclusion that the couple might have been dead for several days.

Shortly thereafter, Nathaniel was found in a hospital; he’d been in what’s described as a serious car crash on Thursday, June 25, near the California community of Santa Clarita. Authorities believe he killed his grandparents before his accident.

He was subsequently taken into custody. Meanwhile, the ISIS-like videos on his Facebook page prompted local police to coordinate with the FBI’s counter-terrorism task force.

The videos, and the Facebook page, remain online at this writing. The following clip, also shared on May 4, does not contain any graphic footage.

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Filed Under: American jihadis, converts to Islam, Featured, Jihad in the U.S., journalistic bias, willful ignorance Tagged With: Los Angeles Times, Nathaniel Scheiern, Westword


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  1. gravenimage says

    Aug 21, 2016 at 7:37 pm

    California Muslim who killed grandparents: “Praise be to Allah who [ will ] in searing pain smite my enimies with haste”
    …………………………

    So the “enimies” of Allah included this Muslim thug’s elderly grandparents, who were nice enough to let this loser crash with them.

    God, I hate Islam.

    • linnte says

      Aug 21, 2016 at 7:58 pm

      Ditto!

    • Champ says

      Aug 21, 2016 at 8:03 pm

      So the “enimies” of Allah included this Muslim thug’s elderly grandparents …

      ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

      True, Graven; and his grandparents were *Christians*, so allah’s enemies are his enemy, too. Doesn’t matter that they were family.

      This is also a case of Christian persecution, but of course this fact will get little, to no, attention.

      • Bob says

        Aug 22, 2016 at 10:38 am

        Not a word from the UN or the EU…

      • gravenimage says

        Aug 22, 2016 at 8:35 pm

        True, Champ.

    • Debbie says

      Aug 22, 2016 at 6:21 am

      Is this Don?
      Islam, the religion of peace. (Not)!

    • Myrtle Linder says

      Aug 22, 2016 at 8:48 am

      It is beyond me that anyone even a Muslim, can be so evil that one can kill their grandparents, surly he was possessed by Satan introduced by Islam!!!!

  2. Lesley says

    Aug 21, 2016 at 7:45 pm

    Disgusting horror >:-((

    This guy is obviously a nut. If he had chosen Christianity to be zealous about, he would likely have annoyed people at BBQ’s by trying to save people’s souls in an aggressive way, but he wouldn’t have done anything so atrocious.

    Islam; the religion of monsters…

  3. Angemon says

    Aug 21, 2016 at 7:47 pm

    The clip appears to be an ISIS terror video — and we’re not sharing it here because invective is followed by scenes of people being beheaded.

    It’s too soon to know if material like this has any relation to the Glendale, California murders of Scheiern’s grandparents, William and Verna, for which Nathaniel was formally charged this week.

    I’m going to go on a limb and say that authorities won’t find any direct link between this loser and ISIS so they’ll rule our terrorism and describe this as a case of someone with “mental issues” “self-radicalizing” online.

    • Gail says

      Aug 22, 2016 at 12:30 am

      Bingo!

  4. Berengaria says

    Aug 21, 2016 at 7:50 pm

    His Grandparents had to know about his rap sheet & what a stupid louse he was. Why do Grandparents think their Grandchildren will not kill them? Nathanial’s mind was as warped as his Muslim Videos.

    • gravenimage says

      Aug 22, 2016 at 8:39 pm

      Grandparents like this tend to be in denial over how dangerous these thugs are.

      Really, this is like the West writ small, where all too many decent people *don’t want to know* how violent Islam is.

  5. KrazyKafir says

    Aug 21, 2016 at 7:52 pm

    He was born for Islam

  6. abad says

    Aug 21, 2016 at 8:02 pm

    When Trump is elected President, he will make it so that anyone who converts to Islam (that is, joins the Dark Side and worship Satan) will be deported to Syria.

    They can all leave the United States of America for good and not bother coming back here.

    Muslims.

    • gravenimage says

      Aug 22, 2016 at 8:39 pm

      I doubt it. But if he slows the flood of Muslims into the US, it will be something.

  7. Sam says

    Aug 21, 2016 at 8:19 pm

    After reading this article I conclude that this killing and behading of grandparents has nothing to do with Islam.

    This is a blatant attempt to smear poor muslims who just want to follow their religion of peace. We can not blame Islam for all the killings Muslims commit.

    We need to understand what Islam isn’t not what Islam is. So on so forth!

    I sick of Islam and yes all Muslims. We have to iradicate Islam off the face of the earth. Now!!!!!

  8. Ian H says

    Aug 21, 2016 at 8:24 pm

    The square brackets and disjointed grammar look almost like the output of a computer translation program. Did he copy/translate something originally written in Arabic from some ISIS site and paste it into twitter?

    • Ian H says

      Aug 21, 2016 at 8:30 pm

      Actually taking a second look at it, the spelling mistakes (“enimies” etc) would suggest not. Computer translation engines tend to spell correctly. Or maybe he started with such a translation and transcribed it by hand, “correcting” the computer’s spelling as he went.

  9. US infidel says

    Aug 21, 2016 at 8:29 pm

    What sick religion would want one to kill his own blood. This is sickening another muslem mental wacko.

  10. Alvin Woods says

    Aug 21, 2016 at 8:34 pm

    He has a ton of muslim friends on his friends list.

  11. Alvin Woods says

    Aug 21, 2016 at 8:43 pm

    He worked for an import export company based in Egypt.
    Looks like a front.

  12. Hi Moe says

    Aug 21, 2016 at 8:48 pm

    I’m not religious but Lord Have Mercy could there be a worse story??? WTF is the world coming to!

    The authorities should look into which gang he was with in jail (likely muzzies), and behead all of them. He was already a nut but the Muslims inside planted the seed I would think.

    Just such an awful story.

    • MaryC says

      Aug 22, 2016 at 4:49 pm

      I saw on Breitbart yesterday a headline that in the UK they are now keeping radical Muslim prisoners separate from all others. I didn’t think anything of it then; just now I had an ‘ahah’ moment. You must be absolutely right about where/when he was radicalized, and yes, of course, the US needs to start keeping radical Muslim prisoners separate from all others too for the same reason.

  13. Alvin Woods says

    Aug 21, 2016 at 9:00 pm

    Im starting to think he is part of a terror cell network. l seriously hope the FBI are interviewing everyone on his fb list as well as cell calls, contacts, and comunicating devices he has and to what relationships he had with those muslims on his fb account. Also if those muslims on his account ever came to the USA, where they travelled to whilst here, their purpose and who they visited.
    The company he works for is a front based in Egypt. The website is no longer up.
    Could the killing of his grandparents had been the start for his jihad in the US? But he car crashed and his future attack on others was ended.

  14. dumbledoresarmy says

    Aug 22, 2016 at 2:09 am

    Above, ‘sham’ hopes we don’t know that Muslims are told to *hate* and not to ‘befriend’ non-Muslim family members. And that Islam teaches Muslims to regard the life of *any* infidel as being of much less significance than the life of any Muslim.

    In the light of those two features of orthodox, historic Islam, the event under discussion – the murder of two non-Muslims by their convert-to-Islam grandson – is completely unsurprising.

    • Frank Courtney says

      Aug 22, 2016 at 8:10 am

      … hence typical taqiyya from shameless “sham”.

  15. epistemology says

    Aug 22, 2016 at 8:10 pm

    Only people who have no idea about our which is also their own Western culture can convert to Islam. Nobody can understand why people give up freedom, individualism, free thinking, justice and progress for that crap that is Islam. It’s a simple, stupid Nazi ideology that has no spirituality, no philosophy, no theory of knowledge. To put it in a nutshell it’s worthless crap. So no surprise that Western converts to Islam even kill their own loved ones. Islam is despicable.

  16. glenn adams says

    Oct 6, 2016 at 11:21 am

    Was following the Highway shootings which occurred in Weld & Jefferson counties in the spring of 2015, north of Denver, CO on websleuths crime sleuthing forum, Several car windows were shattered, 2 people were killed and one survived with a gunshot to her neck. The shootings stopped a few weeks before N Scheiern axed his grandparents. On one of the comment sections of a ms media news article a relative posted that the grand parents saw something and said something, or was going to notify the FBI and provide information concerning Nathaniel’s radicalization.

    There is several photos on NS’s facebook page that places him in the Denver area during the hwy shootings. The Egyptian cosmetic company listed on NS’s FB page has a distribution center near where the CO hwy shootings occurred. Several agencies were involved with the CO hwy shootings Task Force; local, state, and federal. It would be reasonable to conclude that one of the agencies involved is the FBI counter terrorism unit.

    There were 3 states where highway shootings were taking place in the spring of 2015. The CO hwy shootings ceased a few weeks prior to the ax killings in CA by NS. Imo, Nathaniel Scheiern is/was a jihadist lone wolf..

    In 2014 there was a highway shooting incident in KC, MO; Note in the following article there was no motive revealed publicly for the shootings
    .
    Mohammed Whitaker pleads guilty to 2014 Kansas City area highway shootings, will serve 30 years
    POSTED 3:43 PM, SEPTEMBER 13, 2016,
    http://fox4kc.com/2016/09/13/mohammed-whitaker-pleads-guilty-to-2014-kansas-city-area-highway-shootings-will-serve-30-years/
    ________________________

    Websleuths Co Hwy Shootings
    http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?297139-CO-Possible-Serial-Shooter-Has-Colorado-Drivers-on-Edge-4/page26

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