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Canada jihadi: Police “scared. Because they know what our religion says about killing and stuff.”

Aug 26, 2016 11:48 pm By Robert Spencer

If the police really do know, they’re not letting on.

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“Pledging allegiance to ISIL like pledging allegiance to the devil, judge says of convicted Ottawa terror trio,” by Gary Dimmock, Ottawa Citizen, August 26, 2016:

The dark and rapid descent into Islamist extremism for three young Ottawa men who plotted to leave the country to fight for the Islamic State ended on Friday with the homegrown terrorists pleading guilty to crimes inspired by an organization the sentencing judge likened to the devil.

Ontario Superior Court Justice Colin McKinnon, in handing down sentences for the surprise guilty pleas, said homegrown terrorism is a virulent form of cancer that needs to be aggressively eradicated, and that the terrorist plans of the three men were a betrayal of the teachings of Islam.

“It is now hoped that they learn the error of their ways and the utter futility of pursuing jihadist terrorist causes, which constitutes a one-way street to inevitable disaster,” the judge told court. McKinnon said pledging allegiance to the Islamic State is like pledging allegiance to the devil.

Ashton Larmond, the 25-year-old “director” of Ottawa’s cluster network, seemed the most confident in the prisoner’s box, standing up straight away, saying he takes full responsibility, that he’ll learn from his mistakes and that it will never happen again.

Larmond, clean-cut and wearing a suit, was sentenced to 17 years for instructing a person to carry out a terrorist activity. When he walked out of Court Room 30, he smiled and waved to friends in the gallery, then shook his lawyer’s hand firmly. Joseph Addelman wished him good luck.

Addelman told Postmedia that the sentence reflects Larmond’s degree of responsibility, and his guilty plea allowed his followers, twin brother Carlos Larmond and Suliman Mohamed, 23, to get more favourable sentences. Carlos Larmond and Mohamed were each sentenced to seven years.

Carlos Larmond was arrested in January 2015 at a Montreal airport as he was boarding a flight overseas with plans of joining ISIL. He sold his belongings on the Internet before taking a train from Ottawa to the Pierre Elliott Trudeau International Airport. His descent into extremism was quick and came at the behest of his dominant twin brother. In RCMP wiretaps, Carlos expressed hatred for Imams who preach modern Islam. He said they’re worse than infidels because they tell Muslims to sharpen pencils instead of knives.

Ashton Larmond gave up his street life in Vanier in 2011 when he converted to Islam. He went from ecstasy parties and hip hop to studying an extreme form of Islam, and when his passport was revoked days before a scheduled flight overseas to join ISIL, he grew increasingly frustrated and instead spent his time recruiting others — including and unbeknownst to him, an undercover RCMP agent.

The RCMP’s case against the three men involved wiretap and informant-provided body-wire evidence. That evidence revealed, in particular, disturbing thoughts and plans by the Ottawa network’s director, Ashton Larmond:

On the day Michael Zehaf-Bibeau unleashed homegrown Islamist terrorism in Ottawa on Oct 22. 2014, Ashton Larmond said he had bigger plans for his jihadist crew, saying a better strike on soldiers would be to storm Fort Bragg in a cement truck loaded with enough assault rifles and explosives to wage a three-day war against U.S. troops.
After seeing a soldier at Tim Hortons, he said he wanted to slit his throat.
He is heard telling his twin brother how the attack in a Sydney, Australia, café should have gone down: “You take the head off one of them, then you’re in control.”
He tells his twin brother that he knows the police are “afraid of them .. they know our religion very well, this is why they’re scared. Because they know what our religion says about killing and stuff.”
He met the undercover police agent in the parking lot of an Ottawa mosque to give him $1,300 in an envelope to book a flight overseas to join ISIL.

Mohamed was the only terrorist who showed emotion in the prisoner’s box, and when asked if he wanted to say anything in court, he wiped away tears as he read a handwritten statement. It was written in pencil and Mohamed’s hands shook as he read.

“It is something I am not proud of and I would like to make amends. My time in custody has reminded me of my Canadian values and who I really am. It has shown me that I do not agree with extremism in any way,” Mohamed told court.

He denounced extremism and said he hopes to come out of prison a better person….

In the RCMP interview, Ashton Larmond said he’d never harm a Canadian citizen or anyone else because that would be against Islam.

Plus, he told them: “I’m not an idiot like the Toronto 18 guys.”

You got caught like they did, Ashton.

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  1. Blangwort says

    Aug 27, 2016 at 12:08 am

    I’m not scared. I’m disgusted, and repulsed by this evil screed.

    All I”m going to say is don’t screw around with rural villages in the US. They take care of their own.

  2. Jay Boo says

    Aug 27, 2016 at 1:40 am

    It is all about perspective.
    Muslims see the world through — the eyes of Allah.
    Allah, whom Muslims partner up with is their own Alter-Ego.

    This is why Muslims love to honor kill their own children. Muslims truly enjoy murdering their children. It makes them feel more like Allah. They become Allah when killing.
    Children do not have the Allah perspective.
    They are fair game for Muslim parents who wish to feel good about themselves.

    Patsy Cline- If I Could See The World (Through The Eyes Of A Child)

  3. Westman says

    Aug 27, 2016 at 1:45 am

    Larmond: “..they[police] know our religion very well, this is why they’re scared. Because they know what our religion says about killing and stuff.”

    Justice Colin McKinnon: “.. the terrorist plans of the three men were a betrayal of the teachings of Islam.”

    Somebody is stupidly ignorant….

    • JAR says

      Aug 27, 2016 at 10:04 am

      Gotta love Robert’s last line. He always knows where to poke the bear.

    • ninetyninepct says

      Aug 27, 2016 at 11:27 am

      Betrayal of the teachings?? Yo, Judge, read the damn book. All it and they want is to kill or enslave everyone else.

      If these three had been able to get overseas to become terrorists, they would have been officially welcomed back to Canada to recover from their wound in our hospitals, following the policies of Trudeau and the Liberals. After all, he declared that a Canadian is a Canadian is a Canadian.

      • gravenimage says

        Aug 27, 2016 at 10:13 pm

        Who knows Islam better? Its pious practitioners, or some filthy Infidel judge?

  4. Guest says

    Aug 27, 2016 at 2:44 am

    Pathetic but predictable.

  5. BC says

    Aug 27, 2016 at 3:25 am

    Of which teachings of Islam are terrorist or extremist actions a betrayal? We keep getting this mantra from leaders, Christian clergy, judges, etc etc. Have they actually read the teachings? Or only the bowdlerised version put forward by apologists and other dhimmis?

    • Debi Brand says

      Aug 27, 2016 at 4:41 am

      ………………………………………….

      “We, Ourselves, have sent down the Dhikr (the Qur’an), and We are there to protect it” (Surah Al-Hijr 15:9).

      Thus, to that end, as the scholars state, “It became necessary that the tafsir of Qur’an be preserved as a permanent branch of knowledge so that, along with the words of the noble Qur’an, its correct meaning as well stands protected and conserved for the Muslim ummah.” Thereby assuring, assert the scholars, “heretics and deviationists find no room there for distortion of its meanings.” 27

      Therefore, provides that same source, the scholars assert, so important was that mission, so dedicated to it was the ummah, that it was accomplished, by nothing less than “the grace andtawfiq [success given by Allah] of Allah Almighty.”

      ………………………………

      … “Today, over fourteen hundred years have passed since even the blessed age of the Holy Prophet, and there has been a shortfall and neglect on the part of Muslims in all areas of their religious matters. Yet,” notwithstanding those shortfalls and neglects, “the continuous arrangement of memorizing the Holy Qur’an all over the world stands firmly established as it was.”36

      With strong argument, hard countering all who claim the Qur’anic text, as defined above, have, any time, any era, any place been twisted or perverted, he continues: “In every period of time, there are millions of Muslims, old and young, male and female, always present on the scene, blessed people in whose hearts and minds the Holy Qur’an lives protected.” 37

      And “before them”—those “blessed people”– declares this revered scholar, “not even the highest of the high religious scholars can dare recite a single letter of the Qur’an wrong, for there would be around at that time many, seniors or children, who would promptly apprehend the error.” 38

      ……………………………….

      Read entire post at http://islamexposed.blogspot.com/2016/08/omar-siddiqui-mateen-obeyed-allah.html

  6. abel & solomon says

    Aug 27, 2016 at 4:41 am

    Here’s an extract from The Undoing:Islam by its own words, the amazing free e-book that’s turning heads in some very high places. Get your copy or read it online here;- http://abelandsolomon.simplesite.com/424568444
    for the full picture read our full length book Islamic Apocalypse;- https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01AS09LYW

    Personal demons
    Mohammed said unequivocally that every single Muslim has a demon; “There is not one of you (Muslims) who does not have a jinn (a demon, an attaché of the devil) appointed to be his constant companion… Even me!” Thus the demonic element of Islam is clear and unquestionable. This is far cry from the demon-overcoming power of Jesus Christ and his followers.

    Part Seven; Is Allah the same as the God of the Jews and Christians?

    One God, or different deities?

    The word “Allah” today simply means “the deity”, so religions other than Islam also use this word in Arabic to refer to their gods. This does not mean that they are the same spiritual entity, we have to consider their attributes as revealed in the sacred writings to discover whether or not they are the same. The Koran says; (9:2) “ye cannot escape Allah…”, (113:2) “…the evil He created”, (74:56) “He is the fount of fear”, (16:70); “Allah… causeth you to die”, (22:6) “Allah quickeneth the dead”, (32:13) “will fill hell with the jinn and mankind together”, (2:167) “They will never get out of the fire”. From such verses it is very apparent that Islamic Allah is not the same as the God of the Bible who is described very differently; “For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son that whosoever believeth in Him should not perish but have eternal life” (Gospel of John 3:16), “God is love” (1 John 4:8), “Save others by snatching them out of the fire (of going to hell)” (Jude 1:23), “He is not the God of the dead but of the living” (Gospel of Mark 12:27). Islam’s Allah is very clearly not the same as the God of the Christians and Jews.

    There is no god but God, so who is Allah?

    Is Allah the Satan of the Bible? As we have seen Allah admits urging people into hell, he and his fallen angels are in charge there (74:30); “have We not only appointed angels to be wardens of the Fire…”. He assigns a demon to each Muslim (7:27); “We appointed devils as companions…” and thus fits Satan’s description as “Beelzebub, Prince of Demons”.

  7. Angemon says

    Aug 27, 2016 at 5:15 am

    Ontario Superior Court Justice Colin McKinnon, in handing down sentences for the surprise guilty pleas, said homegrown terrorism is a virulent form of cancer that needs to be aggressively eradicated, and that the terrorist plans of the three men were a betrayal of the teachings of Islam.

    I bet Colin McKinnon never read the quran, Sirah or ahadith.

    • Anne Smith says

      Aug 27, 2016 at 5:34 am

      I simply cannot understand why these people are prevented from leaving the country to fight for whoever they want. In a free world they should be able to leave their country and do whatever they like abroad, and take the consequences. They should have their passports revoked and never allowed to return.

      If they want to fight for ISIL that is their business. They will probably be killed, why should we worry. That is better than the poor taxpayers having to keep them in jail, with all its home comforts, for the next twenty years.

      Let them go and be damned.

      • dumbledoresarmy says

        Aug 28, 2016 at 8:49 am

        My view also.

        Let them go; but DO NOT let them back in. And cancel their infidel-country citizenship once they may be reasonably assumed to be in Islamic State territory and signed-up for Jihad. These days they all Tweet and post on FB, etc, so not hard to see where they’ve gone or what they’re up to.

        Declare them Exiled and Outlawed. (And give all their identifying details to the Kurds, the Russians and Mr Assad, with our compliments).

        And at the same time: for each bunch of bloodthirsty wannabee jihadis that gallops off to Syria and Iraq, thus leaving vacant a spot in the lands of the free Infidels… go quietly to Barnabas Fund, get on board with their “Operation Safe Havens”, and offer an equivalent number (or multiple number) of places in the West – Australia, Canada, USA, NZ, etc – for bona fide Syrian *Christian* refugees who are wanting to get out of harm’s way. That way, our conscience will be clear: the jihadis we have allowed to go to Syria won’t find any Christians there to rape, rob, terrorise and murder.

    • underbed cat says

      Aug 27, 2016 at 11:41 am

      A fast read of the comment in this article, “Pledging allegiance to ISIL like pledging allegiance to the devil,”, a quote by a Superior Court Judge, to the Ottowa trio, as reported by Gary Dimmock, Ottawa Citizen, August 26, 2016…I thought good, the judge understands. I missed the last part, where the judge reprimands the young jihadi’s that their actions were a “betrayal of the teachings of Islam.” as Angemon comment pointed out,…the judges comment high-lights the entanglement of the mb effect, to mislead information at the highest level. ISIL is Islamic, no betrayal just exposed

      • underbed cat says

        Aug 27, 2016 at 11:43 am

        opps in my opinion..the judges etc.

  8. mortimer says

    Aug 27, 2016 at 7:35 am

    More disinformation and rubbish: “Ashton Larmond said he’d never harm a Canadian citizen or anyone else because that would be against Islam.”

    He wouldn’t harm ‘anyone’??? Well, what did he think he would be doing in Iraq as a warrior? Did this young man think he might be required to behead live victims with a bowie knife?

    Larmond’s testimony is not credible.

    Furthermore, this crafty, cunning fox played to the audience by telling the court what they wanted to hear: namely, that Islam teaches peace and benevolence, when he was going to Iraq because Islam teaches JIHAD. Liar. Liar. Liar.

    • dumbledoresarmy says

      Aug 28, 2016 at 8:52 am

      Ashton Lamond.

      Convert to Islam.

      Schoolyard dawa, campus dawa, street dawa, prison dawa? How and when and where did he join the Mohammedan Mob?

      And one may note that, like so very many converts to Islam, he is bent on engaging in Jihad fi sabil allah. Funny, that. That so many converts to Islam get this very same idea.

      • Musalmaanmasala says

        Aug 28, 2016 at 10:59 am

        Do these chaps apart from their “Christian” sounding names really have any religion. Because if they did they would not have fallen into the pit of Islam.
        I have seen most of these so called “converts” to this cult are the dregs of society with absolutely no moorings. Its no wonder then that they are led by their noses into a hell by promises of heaven.

  9. Adrian says

    Aug 27, 2016 at 9:21 am

    “My time in custody has reminded me of my Canadian values and who I really am. It has shown me that I do not agree with extremism in any way,” Mohamed told court.”

    Totally meaningless “apology” by Canadian jihadi…

    What the judge should have asked him is: “Do you still agree with the extremist, violent teachings in the Quran?”

    • Veka Fitzfrancis says

      Aug 27, 2016 at 3:45 pm

      Taqqiya.

    • gravenimage says

      Aug 27, 2016 at 10:16 pm

      Taqqiya, indeed.

  10. RAB says

    Aug 27, 2016 at 9:35 am

    The stupidity of the judge in declaring that the terrorist plans of the three men were a betrayal of Islam is bad enough. But to imagine the level of ignorance of the general public about the true nature of Islam is truly appalling. The more I hear of this wholesale white-washing of Islam the more I wonder if the war against Islamic jihad isn’t already lost. Please, somebody tell me I’m wrong.

  11. Mirren10 says

    Aug 27, 2016 at 10:02 am

    ”Please, somebody tell me I’m wrong.”

    You’re wrong.

    People *are* waking up, and will wake up still more, as islam shows its true face. It just can’t help itself.

    • RAB says

      Aug 27, 2016 at 10:47 am

      Thank you. Yes, I still want to believe that it is possible to get the message out in time about the real teachings and objectives of Islam. My experience with the inherent violence and intolerance of Islam goes back a long way, and the more I study Islam the more I find my first impressions were right.

    • gravenimage says

      Aug 27, 2016 at 10:17 pm

      Hear, hear, Mirren!

  12. John A. Marre says

    Aug 27, 2016 at 10:08 am

    So it is your religion that teaches violence! That makes it a false religion, because it is contrary to human nature and the wishes of God.

  13. gerard says

    Aug 27, 2016 at 7:26 pm

    How to deal with a muslim.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKAS0393EyU

    • gerard says

      Aug 27, 2016 at 7:33 pm

      explanation

  14. Andrew Halmay says

    Aug 27, 2016 at 9:28 pm

    The judge, through his ignorance and hypocrisy is as dangerous if not more so than the trio. Larmond sounds like a natural born liar. Why chase ISIS? He’s as good a liar at Trudeau and should be running for office.

  15. gravenimage says

    Aug 27, 2016 at 9:54 pm

    Canada jihadi: Police “scared. Because they know what our religion says about killing and stuff.”
    ………………………

    Canadian police probably *don’t* understand this.

    But this pious Jihadi is confirming that Islam is all about murder. *Ugh*.

  16. John Billings says

    Aug 28, 2016 at 11:54 am

    Ignorant Judge! the terrorist plans of the three men were a “betrayal of the teachings of Islam”. Same old deluded narrative: apparently there is nothing at all bad in Islam.

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