A respect for secular values should be an expectation and requirement of all Muslims immigrating to the West (along with all other adherents of any faith tradition). Indeed, an appreciation for pluralism is a major work in progress toward the evolution of the Muslim faith tradition, in which pluralism and democratic values are rejected by its normative practice under sharia law.
The key for Muslims living in the West is to reject political Islam and practice their faith in peace and respect for their host societies, as other citizens do. The French government’s mode of intervention in the promotion of a “French Islam” is counter-intuitive, as it is injecting politics into a religion that needs to be de-politicized. What’s next? A British Islam? An American Islam? A Canadian Islam?
The French government is now in a panic to regain its equilibrium of political correctness after the widespread fallout over its burkini ban at several beaches. The ban was imposed due to riots that were breaking out over the wearing of the burkini, following devastating jihadist attacks upon France that shook its citizens to the core.
“France is now looking to revive a foundation to promote an “Islam of France” that trains imams in the history of the nation and its secular values – and better tracks foreign influence on French Muslims.”
Both stealth and violent jihadists are now laughing in the face of France’s confidence that it could simply train “imams in the history of the nation and in secular values,” once again revealing a complete misunderstanding of religious zeal and the nature of political Islam, which seeks to dominate and establish a global caliphate. Most imams know more about French history, and Islamic history, than they do. French authorities are not dealing with idiots; they’re dealing with knowledgeable people, and that’s what these authorities fail to understand.
France needs to reach out to the type of Muslims who reject any notion of sharia law, political Islam and victimhood. Muslims who sincerely reject these things consider themselves (and should consider themselves) patriotic members of Western democratic society, grateful for its freedoms, and ask for no special treatment. The Investigative Project reported on a group of them here, when they spoke out on Capitol Hill.
France’s kneejerk reaction to the media circus over the burkini places it further at risk for the incursion of stealth jihadists, who work toward the same goal as their violent counterparts.
From the Muslim Brotherhood Explanatory Memorandum:
“The process of settlement is a ‘Civilization-Jihadist Process’ with all the word means. The Ikhwan [Muslim Brotherhood] must understand that their work in America is a kind of grand jihad in eliminating and destroying the Western civilization from within and “sabotaging” its miserable house by their hands and the hands of the believers so that it is eliminated and God’s religion is made victorious over all other religions.”
While France is trying to extricate itself from appearing racist, intolerant, “Islamophobic,” etc., stealth jihadists will be all too happy to partake in sabotaging its “miserable house.”
“French government convenes Muslim leaders for talks on ‘French-style Islam'”, By Elaine Ganley, Associated Press, August 29, 2016:
PARIS, FRANCE — France’s interior minister convened Muslim leaders Monday to discuss a French-style Islam that honors the nation’s secular values, a task given new urgency after deep divisions surfaced over burkini bans in 30 French beach towns and after terror attacks that also stigmatized Muslims.
A high court struck down the burkini bans Friday, but the high-pitched debate that quickly seeped into France’s political sphere revealed raw tensions between the secular establishment and sectors of France’s estimated 5 million Muslims, the largest Muslim population in Western Europe.
The July 14 attack on revelers in Nice, the killing of a priest in Normandy on July 26 and the June killing of a police couple in their home – all claimed by the Islamic State group – have focused tensions on Muslims.
Interior Minister Bernard Cazeneuve warned in an interview with France’s Roman Catholic newspaper La Croix that if the political class cannot unite all French “the dynamics of division may prove dangerous.” However, he ruled out drafting a national law banning burkinis.
The daylong conference bringing together Muslim leaders, civil society and others is the latest step in creating an “Islam of France” that respects French secular values. Muslims must be “committed to a total defense of the Republic in the face of terrorism, in the face of Salafism,” Cazeneuve told the paper, adding French values must “transcend all others.”
In France, the interior minister is charged with maintaining good relations with religious denominations.
Furor over the burkini debate has highlighted contradictions within France’s strict secularism, The Christian Science Monitor’s Peter Ford reported last week:
Laicité is a founding value of the French republic, intended to guarantee the state’s neutrality in religious affairs. It is meant to ensure there is no such thing as a state religion, nor any favoritism, allowing everyone to practice their faith freely so long as public order is maintained. It was born of a lengthy battle between the state and the Roman Catholic Church at the end of the 19th century.
But as jihadist terrorists have struck repeatedly in France, and as social tensions have mounted, political leaders on both left and right have used the principle to constrain Muslims.
Veils are banned in schools and in all public institutions such as hospitals; the niqab, covering everything but a woman’s eyes, is illegal everywhere; a number of schools that used to offer Muslim (and Jewish) kids alternative choices when pork was on the canteen lunch menu have stopped doing so.
“What is at stake is very important,” said Abdallah Zekri, who heads the Observatory Against Islamophobia. “Firstly, we must end the arguments over the burkini, which make no sense.”He told reporters that some people wanted to use burkinis to stigmatize Muslims, while politicians looking to France 2017 presidential race seized the issue “for vote-catching reasons.”
He also contended that humiliating Muslims “has facilitated the work of Daesh (Islamic State) recruiters” of vulnerable Muslim youth.
More French Muslims have joined the ranks of Islamic State militants than from other European nations – with at least 600 French citizens in Syria or Iraq, 160 killed, and 1,800 either considering or en route.
So far this year, France has expelled 15 foreigners considered a threat – six in August and more than 80 since 2012. Some 20 mosques or prayer rooms considered imbued with radicalism have been closed in recent months.
France is now looking to revive a foundation to promote an “Islam of France” that trains imams in the history of the nation and its secular values – and better tracks foreign influence on French Muslims….

Wellington says
I submit (appropriate word, no?) that any Muslim who rejects Sharia law, political Islam and victimhood is not a very good Muslim and thus is confused about their faith————and so why trust a confused person?
You see, either a Muslim is a good Muslim, in which case they won’t divorce their religion from politics, Sharia and victimhood, or they are a bad Muslim if they do so. The former is a menace to liberty and other good things like equality under the law and the latter is pretty much useless since confused about what they believe in in the first place.
Neither should be relied upon—–but for different reasons. Both should be treated very skeptically—–but for different reasons. Both in their different ways are a menace to Western Civilization.
mortimer says
Agree. Wellington’s opinion is that of Sharia law which describes ‘kufr’, behaving like a disbeliever: because ‘kufr’ (disbelief in Islam) is treason, it is punished with the death penality.
-Sharia law/Reliance of the Traveller/P64.2/5- “The thing I fear most for my Community is the eloquent hypocrite.” (Arabic: munafiq … a hypocrite pretends to follow Islam: if he does not repent he should be killed)
-Kufrul-Istibdaal: one who rejects or tries to reform Allah’s laws to suit the changing zeitgeist or for their own personal needs.
-Kufrul-Nifaaq: act of one who pretends to believe but conceals his disbelief, referred to as munafiq or hypocrite and will be in the lowest level of Hell (Q4:145)
-Kufrul-I’raadh: act of one who avoids for their own convenience practicing the religion of Islam yet is informed about its truth
-“If someone dies without participating in Jihad and not having the Intention of ever doing Jihaad, he has died on a branch of Hypocrisy (Nifaaq)” – Ibn Taymiyyah
-“The Koran directly commands us to commit terrorism, so why are we afraid of it?” proclaimed Egyptian MP Ragab Hilal Hamida in the Egyptian Parliament.
Conclusion: Muslims who do not practice all Islamic teachings are called ‘hypocrites’ (munafiquoon)…at worst, they are disbelievers (kafirs)…those who disbelieve even ONE doctrine of Islam become kafirs who should be killed according to Sharia law. Moreover, if anyone SPEAKS against Islam, they must be killed even if they repent for the prophet is not alive to forgive them and did not leave instructions for renegades to be spared the death sentence.
jihad3tracker says
HELLO AGAIN TO CONTRIBUTORY TREASURES WELLINGTON & MORTIMER —
For newbies here at Jihad Watch who have not encountered the brilliant, lucid, Trilogy-citing, mordantly funny Islam expert David Wood, please find 5 minutes to watch “The Jihad Triangle”. Google that title to find it on YouTube.
It is about “good Muslims” versus those who are the equivalent of “cafeteria Catholics” — for example, using contraception even though the Church prohibits it (Nihil Obstat). This is the essence of David’s point, quoted in his words, in the voice of an ISIS recruiter to a resistant American potential jihadi, from that video:
“Do you think you get to pick and choose which commands of Allah to obey, as if our religion is some sort of lunch buffet? Allah demands COMPLETE submission, and if you don’t obey you are not a real Muslim. You’re going to Hell.”
That refusal to live devoutly by the ENTIRE Qur’an — including Taubah (Sura Nine) — is what we constantly run into with the endless avalanche of articles in the Leftist privilege guilt mainstream media, writting by Westernized, comfortable, graduate-degree, white collar Muslims who attempt to assure us that Islam is peace blah-blah-blah.
harbidoll says
Muslims are not children of G-d, they are slaves to simply obey or be punished. Children are expected to learn try fail & try again.
Louis says
VERY, VERY, WELL SAID.
epistemology says
It’s very special in France, the most secular European country. After everything had been settled after the great revolution the French found the right way how to deal with the Catholic church and keep religion and state segregated. This idea is alien and unfathomable for the restricted muzzie mind. Islam and civilization are incompatible. Here it’s Western civilization; but never forget we’ve got the same problem with Islam in other civilizations as well.
Anyway I hope the French lifestyle with burkini ban will prevail and the mayors at the coast will carry on. Muzzies need to understand their lifestyle isn’t welcome here and they can’t impose it. In their countries they can ban anything but we’re constrained by freedom of religion.
All the best my friend, the French give me hope. Take care and good night
Eur says
Islam of France=Islam of aceh (Indonesia) where burn Christian churches. Islam is islam. Across the globe so they do just killing , subjecting non-Muslims. It has been that way forever. France will not happen something different.
linnte says
I hope this gathering of Civil politicians has the wherewithal to discuss monitoring Mosques for ISIS supporters.
gravenimage says
Given that they just caved on the “Burkini” ban, I would not count on it, Linnte.
Rufolino says
Politically speaking, the National Front of Marine le Pen will doubtless be pleased by these recent developments.
It has been shown that the majority of French people asked, are in favour of the so-called “Burkini Ban”.
But the French government, and its legal representatives overturning the ban, aren’t listening to the will of the majority of the French.
So if the people want their voices heard over issues such as this, they will be forced to look to the Far Right and people such as le Pen -who ARE listening.
linnte says
Oh I know 🙁 Doggonnit! My mom used to tell me “If wishes were horses, beggars would ride”. Hoping you are well! And have you listened to David Woods video about Vincent VanGogh? It made me weep!
gravenimage says
Thank you, Linnte. This was one David Wood video that I was not familiar with.
Here it is:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5yjhVX8sic
It is interesting, because I wrote a paper on Vincent van Gogh and how his faith related to his art. It is not that widely known, but he was a minister for several years before taking up art.
He might be considered a failed minister–he was always giving away everything he had to his parishioners.
But I saw that same kind of generosity in his artwork. Despite his frequent sadness, there is such celebration in his work.
And a sad coda–Theo van Gogh, Vincent’s grandnephew, was one of the first artists I even knew of who was killed by a Jihadist. He was a film maker who made “Submission” with Ayaan Hirsi Ali, and was murdered in 2004.
linnte says
Being a Van Goghophile, I know this about Theo being murdered by Islam. Have you heard the theory that Vincent was killed by Muslims? I read before I began this journey into Islam, that instead of him going into that field and shooting himself, he was coming from a nearby town, in his way home when he ran into some Muslims who wanted his painting that he had been trying to sell. When he refused, they shot him and took the painting. I thought it made more sense than suicide. But I can’t remember WHERE I read this from! My memory is so bad!
Anyway, I have read all the letters he and his brother Theo wrote to each other over the years, and Vincents need to make his parents happy by being a Minister in a biography that I have on him. I am glad he chose painting to express his love for God!
gravenimage says
Thanks for your reply, Linnte.
There are many, many crimes to lay at the doorstep of Islam, but the death of Vincent van Gogh is probably not one of them. There were few Mohammedans wandering the fields of Arles in 1890.
This is one of my favorite paintings of his:
“Starry Night over the Rhône”
http://s.hswstatic.com/gif/vincent-van-gogh-paintings-from-arles-22.jpg
linnte says
My favorites are his field scenes with buildings in them. Thanks for the picture Graven. Sure appreciate you! I know he wasn’t murdered by Mohammedans, but it sounded like an interesting theory. Poor Vincent. Wish I had known him in person. Heck! I wish I could know YOU in person. Hahahahha! God bless you huge!
gravenimage says
Here’s a beautiful one of the type you describe, Linnte:
http://www.wikiart.org/en/vincent-van-gogh/wheat-field-1888-1?utm_source=returned&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=referral
I wish I’d known him, too–although I know he could be a very difficult person. I think it would have been worth it, though.
linnte says
Yes! This one and many others like it. And I am just quirky enough to have enjoyed Vincents oddities. Ha! Thank you for the image. I saved it. ?
Simone Fields says
The joke is that Burkinis are worn in Israel and no-one bats an eye!
I’ve been trying to contact Jihad Watch with a query but I never get a response, can anyone advise please?
gravenimage says
You can leave a message in the “Contact Us” box. Robert Spencer and staff are very busy; you may or may not receive a reply.
Simone Fields says
Thanks for that, I was using the Contact Us form, anyway maybe you can help me with this. The query is as follows:
I have just finished reading a book called In the Land of Invisible Women where the author Qanta A. Ahmed cites some verses from a Hadith and I would like some clarification.
It can be found in her book on page 396.
When the prophet was asked what he feared most for his followers:
They recite the Quran and consider it in their favour but it is against them.
They transpose quranic verses meant to refer to unbelievers and make them refer to the believers.
What I fear most for my ummah is a man who interprets verses of the Quran out of context.
THIS ABOVE SENTENCE IS THE ONE THAT HAS GOT ME
She says ‘The prophet is referring to imposters who will commit destruction in the name of Islam. He mentions the gravest enemies of Islam will emerge from within it”
They will pass through Islam as an arrow passes through its quarry.
Wherever you meet them, kill them!
The one who kills them or is killed by them is blessed.
They are the dogs of the people of Hell
If you haven’t got the time for what is probably a complicated answer don’t worry, I’ll try asking someone else
Thanks very much
Simone
Marblegranite says
Please study Islam more carefully, and do not be misled by abrogated verses. A good start is the Qur’an; start with a careful reading of chapters 8 & 9. We are dealing with a religion that demands belief in their holy books and obedience to their commands, and that includes following sharia strictly. Muslims who appear to disagree are treated most severely, often killed, so, even if a Muslim wanted to respond to the reaching out “to the type of Muslims who reject any notion of sharia law …” failure would result. And good luck finding many such Muslims. Belief in reaching out to a massive army of military age males will result in the horrors now taking place in Europe. The ruin of Europe and western civilization is taking place, and wishful thinking won’t stop it. Being a Muslim demands belief in sharia, and rejecting Islam means death to the former believer. There is much more to this than the little I have contributed, but also study the history of Islam from 628 A.D. to today. When Muslims entered Christian Europe, it was to impose sharia, not to peacefully enter the society. It took Charles Martel to start the reversal of that invasion, but they continued in many different places and times through the ages
Debi Brand says
Amen, indeed, and well stated, M.G.
The gamut of it.
As spoken to in the following: http://islamexposed.blogspot.com/2015/12/verily-i-see-him-believer-messenger-of.html
islam the religion of killers says
“When Muslims entered Christian Europe, it was to impose sharia”
Don’t forget Rape & Pillage, Burning & Looting ,, Kill the men & all forms of Dominance
You don’t keep huge armies fighting and marching on breadcrumbs, in Medievil times obtaining food was difficult ..
And of course rape (normal muslim behaviour toward woman) was a good way to keep the soldiers happy …
Chris LA says
Muslims and non-Muslims need to start talking about Sharia Law. It turns out that there are sincere Muslim organizations that are trying to get Sharia Law (aka Political Islam) disassociated from their religious practice and ultimately abandoned. Here is an excellent discussion of the issue by anti-Sharia Muslims: http://www.irfi.org/articles/articles_551_600/can_sharia.htm
The fatal flaw in Sharia Law is its blatant misogyny. The burkini controversy is just the tip of the iceberg. Enlightened society must reject any credo or edict that treats half of society like second-class people. These are MAN-made laws which have no place in the 21st Century.
Eur says
I have moringa to talk about with a Muslim . My house my rules . he is a citizen like me , their fascist things are not negotiable , resign or leave my house.
gravenimage says
Chris, this group claims that Islam was enlightened during the days of the “Prophet”, and was somehow corrupted later. But this is false–every point of Shari’ah law was developed under Muhammed.
So, they are either ignorant, intent on whitewashing the “Prophet”, or are practicing Taqiyya. Not much to base hopes for some kind of “reform” on, I’m afraid.
Debi Brand says
Amen, g.i.
Across the board.
linnte says
Even Dr. Jasser makes me so suspicious of his motives. And he’s a pretty sweet guy. Clarion Project, Raza Raheel even says (paraphrase)the Qur’an is the holy word of God and cannot be changed. So what is the point of even listening to these “reformers”. How do they sleep? Sheesh!
gravenimage says
True, Debi and Linnte.
Lucretius says
“These are MAN-made laws which have no place in the 21st Century.”
This unfortunately illustrates the self-blinding conceit of France’s elite–the assurance that French civilization is the most elevated, refined, humane, philosophic and enlightened. And the typical man of this civilization thinks “for the life of me, I can’t take revelation and religion seriously, so how can you? So just between us human beings, there must be some way of talking our way to a solution.”
BARBARA BROOKS says
People should be allowed to choose modest swimming clothing. I know of a Christian family who were forcibly removed from the beach because the children wore swimwear similar to what French people wore to the beach 100 years ago. France was secular 100 years ago, yet they still allowed people (in fact required) people to wear modest swimwear.
There has to be some middle ground between burkinis and today’s immodest swimwear.
Greyhound Fancier says
The problem is the riots that were provoked by burkini wearers several weeks ago. Right after the murders in Nice, seeng burkinis on the beach worried other bathers; the male Mohammedans were offended, and there you go, violence broke out.
If there were no connection to violence in Islam, the burkini would be viewed as an exotic cultural feature. Instead, it creates worries that the wearer is armed in some fashion or “set to go off”.
linnte says
Excellent point! No one would care NORMALLY. Because of the Islamic attacks, people are worried. Good thinking.
maghan says
Plus, very unhygenic. Who knows what diseases those bacteria-laden Muslimas will shed into a pool. And they can do any of the numbers in the water and nobody would know. After, male Muslims have done so repeatedly in German pools. And what about a water-proof suicide bomb that is waiting to be unleashed?
gravenimage says
This has *nothing* to do with “modesty”–this has to do with imposing Shari’ah norms on the free West.
Do you believe the Niqab and Burqa are about “modesty”, as well?
Champ says
Exactly, Graven; and every aspect of sharia is extremely oppressive and abusive toward women.
gravenimage says
Yes, Champ.
Marblegranite says
If one should have a BLT wrested from one’s grip and cast to the ground, it is for your own good. I am sorry, wrong, it is to please Allah.
dumbledoresarmy says
Barbara
every form of Islamic dress has, in fact, in the West or in any other infidel country where the Ummah has established a forward operating base and advance colony, *nothing* to do with ‘modesty’ as we infidels understand that word.
It is Gang Uniform.
Imagine it as the equivalent of a Swastika armband.
It indicates the wearer’s more-or-less conscious membership in a group that is committed to the goal of Total World Domination, with the ultimate aim of establishing, maintaining and enforcing a global Sharia despotism. Or, as John Roy Carlson called it, in his book Cairo to Damascus (1951), after having interviewed one of the founders of the Ikhwan or Muslim Brotherhood, “Islam, Islam Uber Alles”.
You should also be aware that *all* unislamically-dressed females – who may indeed, though not *islamically* dressed, be completely modestly dressed by *our* standards – are by definition ‘uncovered meat’ and are deemed fair game, or lawful prey, for the predatory Mohammedan male, should he feel strong enough to seize and make use of them. The women – of all ages, but mostly young – who were seized and groped and fingered and *raped* by large marauding mobs of Mohammedan males in Germany at New Year’s Eve this year, were NOT in bikinis nor in tank tops and short skirts; we are talking about Germany in the depths of winter, and out of doors. They were *warmly* dressed. They were wearing jeans, coats, jackets, scarves. And they were *still* viewed as uncovered meat, and treated accordingly; as objects, as prey animals, as *things* not as people… because, being kuffar, and female, they were not *seen* as being ‘people’ at all.
Gray says
Haven’t they already got a ‘French style Islam that honors … secular values’? After all, what could be more secular than killing cartoonists, using vehicles as an instrument of death, murdering schoolchildren and slitting the throats of Priests? That all sounds pretty secular to me. Problem solved, n’est-ce-pas? Vive la France!
citycat says
“Islam of France”?
The cancer is mutating.
Perhaps the Islamophobia in the government will mutate too.
If one ignores the obvious forthing of, or turns a blind eye to, or agrees with Islam, in order to shroud the fear, to keep the temporary peace, and says zilch, then that one can be more accurately described as feared of Islam and having Islamophobia.
The cowardly traitor who knows Islam’s intent can be said to have fear of Islam, Islamophobia, more so than has one shouting at Muslims about their intent to turn the Muslims host country into Islam.
No fear there.
More so than one exposing Islam.
No fear there.
More so than one describing the Islamic creeping.
No fear there.
More so than one describing the Islamic breeding with intent.
No fear there.
More so than one reporting the horrors committed by Muslims, which ever sect.
No fear there.
Where’s the fear?
The fear is in the liars and ostriches.
Also in the Muslims and in some leaders it seems, but transformed into surrender and a nightmare dream.
People are getting a phobia about getting accused of Islamophobia.
It’s all mad.
gravenimage says
France burkini backlash panic: convene Muslims to discuss French Islam
……………………
There is, of course, no such thing as “French Islam”–there is just Islam in France, with all its ugliness–the Nice truck massacre, the attack on the Bataclan, Jihad on trains, the sickening “Tournante”, or Muslim gang rape–all Islamic savagery.
Joe says
The solution is to require French Muslims to practice several types of assimilation on a regular basis. That would easily rot Islam from within. Assimilation always tries to program culture. For example, politically correct speech is an assimilation into fascism, but don’t forget that Sharia is a form of fascism. In America, the “Pledge of Allegiance” is an assimilation into government by a constitution. France needs a number of practices like this.
Jay Boo says
Bikinis or even Nudity does not necessarily mean sex in the West.
In many Scandinavian countries whole families would sometimes sauna together and the incidence of rape was very low before Muslims arrived.
I do not suggest that acceptance of nudity makes people suddenly act like decent human beings but the opposite is true. That is, in societies where people respect and care for one another, bikinis and even total nudity does not hinder people from seeing one another as persons first and foremost rather than as THINGS to be judged or to impose oneself upon.
maghan says
Humans lost most of their body hair due to evolutionary pressures. Yet whales and porpoises are not seen as obscene. So what is this nonsensical hang-up about seeing human skin.
Maybe Muslims prefer that human females carry as much hair as apes and monkeys.
Pete says
Yeah, 10-12 year olds. Or goats.
gravenimage says
Very true, Jay Boo.
islam the religion of killers says
This whole Burkini saga is a muslim setup from the very beginning..
Notice how sharpe the picture is ,,,,, there was a photographer already on the beach (this is not a smartphone picture)
Notice how the burkini wearer has nothing with her, no towel to sit on, no bag of beach stuff, no indication of food, normal “stuff” people take to the beach to spend time …
Sorry folks this is a muslim generated victim scam …….
does anyone know who took the issue to the high court ????
Is there a French version of CAIR ????
Shazza says
Yes I agree. It’s a set up.
She is surrounded by infidel men, isn’t that forbidden?
This action alone proves that demands for ‘women only’ days at the pool are just a scam.
Will says
Ideological extortion, insisting the west bends a knee to sharia-compliancy, to bow to it’s existential need to submit humanity to their divine interventions……. Modesty/humility a large part of these virtues is about not attracting undue attention to oneself . Burkinis on a beach or all manner of cover in the secular public square is about islam being a glaring signpost , one marking it’s territory …… the century will bring sharia not kumbaya …… the rigid orthodoxy of islamic veiling is goose-stepping it’s way into western secular public spaces…. drip-by-drip-by-drip-by-Sharia-drip , cleverly using victimhood to sway the regressive-progressives and gain political clout while simultaneously vociferously proclaiming their ideological superiority ………. masters of passive/aggressive behaviour……. hell knows no fury as a supremacist ideology scorned…… the righteous indignation is palpable…… nothing, absolutely nothing but a submissive obedience can soothe a savage breast and the pain of unrequited love ……. This effrontery bulldozing it’s way into our secular public sphere will remain relentless until the holy-jihad to implement sharia-compliancy is accomplished. ….. institutionalized , systematic, islamic state sponsored & ideologically driven sharia is at our door steps.
Matthieu Baudin says
“… The ban was imposed due to riots that were breaking out over the wearing of the burkini, following devastating jihadist attacks upon France that shook its citizens to the core…”
Yes, the French can now detect ‘stealth jihad’ all around them and are beginning to assert themselves.
jeremysteering@gmail.com says
The row over the burkini actually began back in April when British retailer M & S decided to sell a swimsuit allowing the wearer to “cover your whole body with the exception of the face, hands and feet without compromising on style”. That ignited a heated debate in France, where public signs of religion are frowned upon due to its strict secular traditions.
Laurence Rossignol, France’s women’s rights minister, claimed that selling the burkini promoted “locking women’s bodies up”, while Elizabeth Badinter, one of France’s most famous feminists, called for a boycott of such brands, saying, “In the space of 10 years, many girls from (high-immigrant) districts have started wearing the veil in France. Divine revelation? No, it is the rise of Islamic pressure.” Anne Hidalgo, the mayor of Paris, backed Ms Badinter, saying: “It’s true that I find it a bit offensive when I see such fashions, even if other countries are free to organise themselves differently”.
jeremysteering@gmail.com says
Here’s a thing: leave aside religion and politics, and it actually comes down to a very simple and logical argument.
In Muslim countries, uncovered Western women on beaches are considered culturally offensive. Therefore, it is not permitted.
In Western countries, covered Muslim women on beaches are considered culturally offensive. Therefore, it is not permitted.
One of the many unacceptable things about Islam is that it sees respect, tolerance and freedom of expression as a one-way street: one which doesn’t go in our direction. Unacceptable double standards and hypocrisy. The West has done everything to accommodate and appease them, changing its laws and traditions, but to my knowledge, in Britain at least, not one concession has been made in return by any Muslim group. But if your religion teaches that it is perfect in every way and that you are superior in every way to non-Muslims, why would you make any concessions to them?