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ISIS to Christians: Convert or “live under the authority of Islam in humiliation,” or “only thing between you and us is the sword”

Aug 8, 2016 7:54 am By Robert Spencer

Note first that this jihadi’s explanation for his actions in becoming a terrorist begins and ends with Islam. He doesn’t talk about poverty or lack of opportunity. Then note his theological critique of Christianity: Muslims proselytize among young Christians worldwide using arguments like the ones below, and the various churches have nowhere bothered to help their youth formulate responses to these arguments. Finally, note that everything Abu Sa’d at-Trinidadi says about how the Christians will be treated is based upon the Qur’an: “Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which has been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued” (Qur’an 9:29).

Abu Sa'd al-Trinidadi

“Trini ISIS sniper: All Christians must die,” Daily Express, August 2, 2016:

ISLAMIC State’s most recent edition of its online propaganda magazine, which calls on Jihadists to destroy Christianity, features an extensive interview with a Trinidadian fighting with the terror group. He says Christians should die by the sword.

Named in the article as Abu Sa’d at-Trinidadi, he said Christians are legitimate targets “due to their mere disbelief,” and “for this reason, amongst others, the Islamic State leadership emphasised the importance not to differentiate between disbelieving soldiers and their so-called ‘civilians.'”…

Dabiq: When did you become a Muslim and how did it happen?

Abu Sa’d at-Trinidadi: All praise is due to Allah. May blessings and peace be upon Allah’s Messenger.

I come from a family of Baptist Christians, so from a very young age they would send my cousin and me to Sunday school. There I would learn about the Bible, parts of which I even memorized, and also learn about the prophets. My journey towards Islam began when I was around 7 or 8 years old. My mother would take me to church on Sundays. While attending service one day as the members of the congregation were singing and dancing, I took a look around at the pictures they claimed to be of Jesus, angels, and others, as well as the crosses. I said to myself, “Something is wrong here,” because I remembered that the first two commandments were, “Thou shalt have no other gods before me” and “Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image,” as I had been taught in Sunday school.

So this had an affect on me as well as the fact that I used to see the pastor – who was married with children – coming next door to commit adultery. I would wonder how this man could lead me when he himself didn’t follow the Bible. I told my mother that I didn’t want to go back to church, and I would pray on my own based on what I’d learned from the Bible. Years later, my grandmother bought me a silver chain with a cross pendant. When I would wear the chain I would think to myself, “This pendant is an idol.” So I took it off and kept the chain. My knowledge of only the first two commandments gave me the understanding that what they were practicing was not in line with the truth. At this point, I didn’t consider myself part of any of the Christian denominations, but that was as far as I got.

In school, I was exposed to all the various religions but I remained upon what I knew. When I was around twenty years old, I would come to accept the religion of truth, Islam. I was working at a call center and got to know a Muslim co-worker there. We happened to share many of the same worldly interests, and for this reason, I would spend much time with him. I used to ask him many questions about the religion. In our conversations I would ask him about the beliefs of Muslims, and would also ask him about Jesus and Muhammad, and everything he told me made sense to me and was in line with what I remembered of the first two commandments, so I quickly gravitated towards Islam and soon found myself debating Christians because I knew their beliefs were corrupt.

Sometimes, because I was drawn to Islam, when I saw him praying, I would pray like him, and when I did, I would feel very calm afterwards. I accompanied him to the Friday sermon a couple of times to see what it was about, and then became certain that this was the true religion – the religion of Abraham, Moses, and Jesus. In the last conversation we had before I embraced Islam, I told him that I was planning on selling drugs to support my family. He said that this was wrong and that the ends don’t justify the kill people but I can’t sell drugs to feed my family?”

He then began explaining to me the ultimate purpose of jihad as well as enlightening me concerning some of the Muslims’ plights, and after the conversation, I was settled. So I declared the testimony of faith and became a Muslim.

Dabiq: How did you find the da’wah to jihad?

Abu Sa’d at-Trinidadi: There was a faction of Muslims in Trinidad that was known for “militancy.” Its members attempted to overthrow the disbelieving government but quickly surrendered, apostatized, and participated in the religion of democracy, demonstrating that they weren’t upon the correct methodology of West, the da’wah to jihad took hold of me through the lectures of Shaykh Anwar al-‘Awlaqi . After listening to his various lectures repeatedly, I gained a firmer understanding of what we as Muslims were supposed to be doing.

I listened to his lecture series titled “Constants on the Path of Jihad” and his lecture series on “The Book of Jihad.” By Allah’s grace, there was a man of sound knowledge who I was able to refer to and who would answer any questions I had. His name was Shaykh Ashmead Choate and he had studied hadith and graduated from one of the Islamic colleges in the Middle martyrdom fighting in Ramadi.

Dabiq: Tell us about your jihad endeavor in Trinidad and Tobago.

Abu Sa’d at-Trinidadi: I, along with my brothers in Christian paganism is widespread in Trinidad and Tobago Islam Abu ‘Abdillah (another convert from Christianity), Abu ‘Isa, and a number of other brothers from Trinidad that later made hijrah after us formed a group and would deal with some of the issues of the Muslims that people were afraid to deal with. One of our goals was to eventually make hijrah – when we had the ability to do so – and join the mujahidin striving to cleanse the Muslims’ usurped lands of all apostate regimes, and as a result, I would keep myself up to date on all the latest news around the Muslim world and the jihad fronts. We would weigh all of our options as we awaited our opportunity for hijrah. At the same time, we knew that we couldn’t just sit and dream while doing nothing, so whenever the disbelievers in Trinidad would kill or harm a Muslim, we would take revenge. We would work to accumulate money in order to buy weapons and ammo. Alhamdulillah, we were successful in many operations, and this was only by Allah’s grace.

Abu ‘Abdillah, my wife, and I were arrested at one point, but the police weren’t able to make a case against us. We were nonetheless charged for possessing guns and ammunition. They seized my computer and phones and found the videos, books, and lectures on jihad. The taghut government of Trinidad then plotted against us, claiming that we were planning on assassinating the prime minister and a number of other ministers in order to cause chaos and panic in the country. That would have been an honor for us to attempt, but the reality of our operations was much smaller, as I described before. We were imprisoned for terrorism along with some Muslims who merely knew us as well as others whom we had never even met before. Alhamdulillah, they planned and plotted but Allah is the best of planners. They were unable to make a case against us and we were freed, by Allah’s permission, and despite being placed under surveillance, we went back to doing what we knew we had to do, commanding the good and prohibiting the evil….

Dabiq: How did your family react when they found out you became a Muslim?Abu Sa’d at-Trinidadi: When I became a Muslim, my mother told me that she respected my decision.

Alhamdulillah, she too embraced Islam, a few years after me. She loved Islam so much that she would later say she wished that she had learned of Islam long before so she could have embraced it earlier. Alhamdulillah, one of my brothers also began practicing Islam. As for the rest of my family, I ask Allah to guide them.

Dabiq: How did your family react when they found out you became a soldier of the Islamic State?

Abu Sa’d at-Trinidadi: Some of my disbelieving Christian relatives have used the fact that I am a soldier of the Islamic State in their quarrels with others. They’ve said, for example, “My relative is an ISIS terrorist, so you better watch out!” Subhanallah, when it comes to the honor that Allah has granted the Caliphate, we even see many disbelievers recognizing it….

Dabiq: As a convert from Christianity, what message would you like to direct to Christians?Abu Sa’d at-Trinidadi: To the Christians I say, you know that you have strayed far away from the true teachings of Abraham, Moses, and Jesus. Your book was corrupted long ago by your leaders. I call on you to remember the first two commandments, for they are what led me to Islam and to the true teachings of all the prophets. Submit to the one who created you and do not differentiate between the prophets, for they all came with the same message. Follow the final messenger, Muhammad, for in doing so you will be following all of the prophets. If you refuse, then we offer you the option to pay jizyah and live under the authority of Islam in humiliation. If you refuse, then the only thing between you and us is the sword.

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  1. Crusades Were Right! says

    Aug 8, 2016 at 8:06 am

    EXPEL EVERY SINGLE MUSLIM FROM WESTERN COUNTRIES! ARE WE EXPECTED BY OUR LEADERS SIMPLY TO WAIT UNTIL WE ARE OUTNUMBERED BY MUSIM IMMIGRANTS AND THEIR NUMEROUS DESCENDANTS? WE KNOW WHAT WILL HAPPEN BECAUSE IT HAS HAPPENED NUMEROUS TIMES BEFORE IN OTHER PLACES! IT IS HAPPENING NOW IN THE MIDDLE EAST!

    • Crusades Were Right! says

      Aug 8, 2016 at 8:09 am

      Third line correction: …MUSLIM IMMIGRANTS…

      • KrazyKafir says

        Aug 8, 2016 at 8:29 am

        Third line correction….MUSLIM INVADERS

        • Michael Laudahn says

          Aug 8, 2016 at 9:02 am

          3rd line correction: mohammedan converts – the scum of the earth

    • Marty says

      Aug 8, 2016 at 8:36 am

      100% correct.
      This IS garbage is hardly shocking though.
      These are the very words used by the SAudis to any non
      mohammedan who ends up in their vile, heathen land.

    • Gary says

      Aug 8, 2016 at 10:37 am

      and isn’t that exactly what “Nucklehead” peace of sh*t be upon him did…..

      ….Waited til he had the numbers then overthrow the governing body.

      In less than three generations you can expect Sharia Law to be a thorn in our side.

      God help us!!!

  2. Christianblood says

    Aug 8, 2016 at 8:07 am

    (ISIS to Christians: Convert or “live under the authority of Islam in humiliation,” or “only thing between you and us is the sword).

    And America and the West are favoring islam and muslims across all issues and even backing these same jihadists as they mass-murder and clear all countries of Christians giving them weaponry, money, training and political support. Shame on America and the West. May God’s severest punishment befall on them! !

    Recently, the evil pro-islamic American establishment denied entry visas for a few Christians who were planning to attend a conference in America while it allowed and gave visas to dozens of islamic leaders who were planning to attend the same conference. Read it on the link below:

    http://www.raymondibrahim.com/muslim-persecution-of-christians/u-s-state-dept-invites-muslim-leaders-denies-christians/

    • Jay Boo says

      Aug 8, 2016 at 10:55 am

      I do not deny that HILLARY supplied their weapons to kill Christians but that is no excuse to speak in such broad generalities to blame “America and the West ”

      Muslims love to blame America and the West too, while they (temporarily) love Obama and Hillary for kissing their butts.

      • T Ross says

        Aug 8, 2016 at 12:31 pm

        Long before Killery’s times, the USA hatched up such nits as the Taleban and AlKaeda.

        • gravenimage says

          Aug 9, 2016 at 9:53 pm

          T Ross wrote:

          Long before Killery’s times, the USA hatched up such nits as the Taleban and AlKaeda.
          …………………….

          Ah–another conspiracy theorist who believes that Jihad has nothing to do with Islam, but was just cooked up by the bad ol’ USA to ‘make Muslims look bad’…

      • African infidel says

        Aug 8, 2016 at 12:38 pm

        To Jay Boo

        American people elected their governments directly and then those governments give support to jihadists so eventually the American people who are electing those governments that are empowering jihadists are responsible and deserve the blame.

        • Angemon says

          Aug 8, 2016 at 3:07 pm

          African infidel posted:

          “To Jay Boo

          American people elected their governments directly ”

          You have no idea how the American electoral system works, do you?

        • Champ says

          Aug 11, 2016 at 2:12 am

          Bravo, Angemon!

  3. Jack Holan says

    Aug 8, 2016 at 8:10 am

    This should be a lesso to President Obama and all his men and women. IS stays on point. Over the year regardless of conditions in the Field they’ve kept to more or less one story, One motivation and just who are their targets. Unlike lying Obama and Trust me Kerry “they get desparete when they’re losing the war and territory (But he was lying about them losing territory. Hoe many Sorties do we fly a day Josh? We just do drop many bombs because we might hit Civilians. Sounds to me like the never ending war.

    • Keys says

      Aug 9, 2016 at 10:00 am

      Jack Holan says, “Sounds to me like the never ending war.”

      Exactly my thoughts, Jack. And ISIS is only one battle. The never ending war is with Islam, and that is exacltly why Obama says it is not.

  4. john spielman says

    Aug 8, 2016 at 8:49 am

    YUP, ISIS is islam. I wonder what San Francisco will look like when the muslim immigrants (invaders) take over and enforce sharia law upon Nancy Pelosi and her loyal subjects

  5. Mubarak says

    Aug 8, 2016 at 8:56 am

    What a sad testimony of a guy convinced that good morals are brought about by weapons and politics.
    But it adds a transcendent, seducing quality to evil, when you do it in the name of God/Allah. And that is the disgusting and unique feature of Islam: it’s a religion that willingly puts and pushes itself at the disposal of evildoers and justifies and sanctifies murder and terror and all that evil is, if only you dedicate it to the God of Islam. And it even provides a seductive reward for the atrocities done in its name together with the pardoning of all previous committed sins.

    That, by the way, explains why a number of the terrorists indulge “in somewhat crude debauchery before suddenly turning puritanically pious and killing others in the certainty that they themselves would be killed” (quotation form an article of Theodore Dalrymple) – Why not mix lust and wine into the cup of the muslimized indignation, brought about by own moral shortcomings, as a foretaste of the wine and lustful orgies that awaits in the licentious paradise in heaven?

    This is the total and maximized corruption of the Arab mind instigated by Islam, and Abu Sa’d at-Trinidadi is another willful victim of this madness. The Ophelia smile on his face is the smile of a lunatic, with which he would cut the throat of any infidel as a way for himself to enter the bliss of paradise.

    Islam is nothing but a catalyst for evil and the “good”, some Karen Armstrongs see on the surface of this religion, is all in the service of this evil.

    It is an indictment of Islam that radicalization within its context has the meaning and the consequences it has. Indeed it cannot express itself in any other way; if you want to be good and loving as a radicalized Muslim, you are thwarted and redirected to your real islamic self. That is why Islam has a special appeal to criminals and why prisoners convert to it. We dispose ourselves to our bents and Islam is sooner or later at our disposal. –

    In John 16:2 it says: “the time is coming when anyone who kills you will think they are offering a service to God.” – Islam is the ultimate blasphemy insisting that the loving God of the gospel has no Son in heaven or sons among the sons of man – especially Jewish man – and that anyone that says so should be killed.

    • kevinrad says

      Aug 9, 2016 at 9:29 am

      Excellent post Mubarak.

      • gravenimage says

        Aug 9, 2016 at 10:31 pm

        Kevin, I can see how you might think this just on the strength of the above post–but Mubarak is actually a nasty Muslim supremacist.

        Here’s Mubarak, from early in his career here:

        Mubarak says
        February 16, 2016 at 4:27 am

        I know it is not political correct, but I’d like to explicate the sex assaults by refugees in Cologne by blaming the victims, because if you believe, that in order to protest against rape and sexual harassment the freedom of the West should entail standing totally naked in a public square under cover of being a “performance artist”, there is something rotten in the state of your mind, and this freedom of yours ought rightfully to be turned against you in order to harass you.

        Is this offense of public nudity informed by a morality that is loftier than the one that is protested against —? And the West is filled with vulgar, public commercials and public exposures of women narcissistically prostituting themselves and their bodies to the effect, that males and females now march by the thousands and millions in parades all over the Western World priding themselves that the opposite sex no longer excites them or indeed can excite them. Could it be, that these carnivallers ironically express, that they have become fed up with the constant exposure of cheap, rotten flesh everywhere around them thus advertising, that lust for their own kind and flesh is the only and ultimate “freedom” that can revive them and us and save us all?

        And shouldn’t women in the West be happy anyway, that they can attract the attention of newcomers, and that these take trouble to bother them?

        I hope these questions offend you because it must needs be that offense come in order for us all to fall on our collective nose. Or even better: that the stumbling block falls on us, that we and our petty moral categories can be smashed and shattered into pieces. Tertium non datur.

        So thank God for Muslims who migrate or immigrate to the west. If we can persuade them to absorb what is their and our Judeo-Christian inheritance – blood and public nudity – and exhale what they falsely and deceivingly believe to be theirs, the world could be a beautiful place. But to that end we need the prophet Isaiah – not a hysterical performance artist.

        https://www.jihadwatch.org/2016/02/prosecutor-overwhelming-majority-of-cologne-new-years-eve-sex-assault-suspects-are-refugees#comment-1379853

        Lots more ugliness from him on that thread.

    • gravenimage says

      Aug 9, 2016 at 10:24 pm

      Did Mubarak realize that he was tipping his hat just a bit too much by openly praising Muslim rape and murder? It appears so. Certainly, he has dialed it back from time to time before.

      He wrote:

      That, by the way, explains why a number of the terrorists indulge “in somewhat crude debauchery before suddenly turning puritanically pious and killing others in the certainty that they themselves would be killed” (quotation form an article of Theodore Dalrymple) – Why not mix lust and wine into the cup of the muslimized indignation, brought about by own moral shortcomings, as a foretaste of the wine and lustful orgies that awaits in the licentious paradise in heaven?
      ………………………..

      Given how Mubarak has *lauded* Muslim rape–even of little boys–this sanctimony is just perverse.

      He has also–perversely–claimed that the civilized Theodore Dalrymple is actually saying we deserve Muslim savagery for our shortcomings–a grotesque mischaracterization of his position.

      More:

      This is the total and maximized corruption of the Arab mind instigated by Islam, and Abu Sa’d at-Trinidadi is another willful victim of this madness.
      ………………………..

      This has *nothing* to do with “Arabs”. Arab Christians are not Jihadists. And pretending that this Jihadist from Trinidad is Arab is ludicrous. More obfuscation.

      And it seems that Mubarak is pretending to be a Christian here again–claiming, elsewhere, that if Christians are true to their faith that they will, essentially, impose Shari’ah strictures on themselves.

      Some of his ugliness on this thread, beginning with this post:

      https://www.jihadwatch.org/2016/05/germany-muslim-migrant-sexually-assaults-6-year-old-boy-in-changing-room#comment-1433792

      More here, where he suggests what a woman with tattoos or pierced ears “deserves” from his vicious coreligionists:

      https://www.jihadwatch.org/2016/03/hugh-fitzgerald-raping-me-is-his-prayer-to-god-its-allowed-its-halal#comment-1398831

      There’s *lots* more from Mubarak, ever since he first showed up here in the wake of the New Year’s Eve mass rapes in Cologne and other European cities. This is just the tip of the iceberg.

      • kevinrad says

        Aug 10, 2016 at 4:36 am

        Thanks Folks

        Eyes open now

        Best

        Kevin

        • Mubarak says

          Aug 11, 2016 at 1:50 am

          We should be just as severe – if not more – in our judgments of the decadence and liberties run amok in the West as with the abominable ideology of Islam. This is my position.
          Gi and many other commentators want to turn this forum into an eco chamber that feeds human self-righteousness and hypocrisy, and it it only mirrors an attitude very common in the Muslim world.

  6. Westman says

    Aug 8, 2016 at 10:09 am

    “You are the best nation produced [as an example] for mankind. You enjoin what is right and forbid what is wrong and believe in Allah..” Q 3:110

    “And let there be [arising] from you a nation inviting to [all that is] good, enjoining what is right and forbidding what is wrong, and those will be the successful.” Q 3:104

    “Forbidding what is wrong” should be the 6th pillar of Islam and is the very action that makes Islam incompatible with democracy and other religions. Everywhere we see that when Islam has sufficient numbers it attempts to impose its prohibitions on others. Already the “morality police” have appeared on Europe’s streets, “forbidding” non-islamic dress and customs.

    This young jihadist, Abu Sa’d at-Trinidadi, is ready to murder innocents; innocents who are unwilling to allow the free and peaceful conduct of their lives to be forbidden by the sinister thinking of a primitive warlord.

    Make no mistake, this is a clash of civilizations, freedom versus servile submission. Even as an Agnostic, from my understanding of religious literature, I see the Islam-freedom conflict as a war between the mindsets of Satan and the Christian God. Islam refuses personal choice which makes a mockery of any Final Judgement; turning it into arbitrary dart-throwing. It’s no wonder that there are so many jihadists choosing martyrdom as the only sure path past the judgement. But, of course, Muhammad planned and issued revelations to ensure his minions would fight to the end.

    Islam is the ultimate purveyor of compulsion. There is no “live and let live” in Islam which intends that you Must agree and be a Muslim, or, you Must accept dhimmitude and pay to live, or, you Must die.

    Islam was born in a primitive society of limited resources; so primitive that newborn females were buried to conserve those resources. It allowed a band of followers to raise themselves to wealth and sufficiency by blessing the robbing and killing of other groups. Now it consists of peoples, largely, that have been left behind by developments that they are able to use but not produce or understand.

    I think the renewed world-wide jihadist activities are in response to a growing realization, in Islam and by the free nations, that through the “fish bowl” of modern communications, Islam is viewed as a failure and the governor of failing societies.

    The only tools Islam has to impress the West is Jihad and 1.6 billion souls who can’t leave without penalty from the “Forbidders”.

    • Keys says

      Aug 9, 2016 at 11:17 am

      Thanks for this excellent post, Wellington. In it you said from your understanding of religious literature: “I see the Islam-freedom conflict as a war between the mindsets of Satan and the Christian God.”

      Yes, indeed, the conflict between truth and deceit, good and evil, light and darkness, and life and death.

      In Christian literature Jesus said that his Kingdom is not of this world; that Satan is the ruler of this world, though Satan has no power over him; that the world hates Jesus and his disciples; that he would send the spirit of truth into the world, but the world can not receive it.

      Jesus asks “when the Son of man comes, will he find faith on earth?” (Lk 18:8). Tough question for Christians who want to be “worldly” when Satan prowls about the world seeking the destruction of souls.

      Islam is the mindset of Satan, just as you say, and it is that spirit that came to Mohammad in the cave. As Paul warns “for even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light. So it is not strange if his servants also disguise themselves as servants of righteousness. Their end will correspond to their deeds”. (2Cor 11: 14-15).

      I believe you have read the literature correctly, Westman, even though you are agnostic.

      • Keys says

        Aug 9, 2016 at 11:16 pm

        Oops. Sorry for calling you Wellington.

        Excellent post, Westman !

    • gravenimage says

      Aug 9, 2016 at 10:34 pm

      Fine post, Westman.

  7. GPG says

    Aug 8, 2016 at 10:31 am

    proud to be a kuffar!!….You shall never have me subjugated to your moon god and his schizophrenic prophet!!

  8. 13pr108 says

    Aug 8, 2016 at 10:32 am

    Proof of Islam’s evil: islam permits rape, abortion, enslavement and torture of human and non-human animals (halal). Physical terrorism (to establish global ‘caliphate’) and spiritual terrorism (condemning non-muslims to eternal hell) is the essence of evil Islamic creed. Islam is a criminal enterprise. Here’s my theory on muslim garb: it is much harder to rescue abducted women and girls when they are covered in black garbage bag like apparel. Girl and women abduction is one of the defining features of islam. (‘love jihad’.) I humbly beseech the Highest Power (actual God) to extirpate islam from Earth so human beings can live with dignity and respect, free from all fears.
    Izlam: 1400+ years of stealing land, gold and women. I wish someone would put them in their place. May Trump win.

  9. Jay Boo says

    Aug 8, 2016 at 10:47 am

    TRUE MUSLIMS
    ISIS knows that without others to blame for Muhammad’s disgrace, Muslims would be ashamed to even show their duplicitous face.

    Christians
    Jews
    Other religious minorities of opportunity
    Women and young girls
    Apostates
    Gays
    Random infidels

  10. abbas says

    Aug 8, 2016 at 11:11 am

    Augustine, Aquinas, Luther, and Calvin. The four greatest Christian thinkers in history used the teachings of Bible to torture and kill heretics, witches, and apostates.,

    “Lighthouses are more helpful then churches.”
    — Benjamin Franklin

    I’m sure Obama is an atheist; I’m sure Kennedy was an atheist, but I doubt if Pope Frank is.
    Richard Dawkins

    • Jay Boo says

      Aug 8, 2016 at 11:17 am

      How hateful, duplicitous, and shameless are Muslims????

      Muslims across France ‘(attend mass)’ after priest murdered inside church video

      • dumbledoresarmy says

        Aug 8, 2016 at 10:22 pm

        I bet that they’re weeping crocodile tears and putting on pretend sad faces whilst inwardly gloating and exulting.

    • Kay says

      Aug 8, 2016 at 12:57 pm

      Jesus, having disarmed the powers and authorities, (he) made a public spectacle of them, triumphing over them by the cross.

      There is no true authority in Islam.

    • Keys says

      Aug 8, 2016 at 3:29 pm

      Islam thrives through deceit, murder, and thievery. It is destructive, not creative; grim, not joyous; dark, not light; chaos, not peace; evil, not good; death, not life.

    • Michael says

      Aug 8, 2016 at 9:35 pm

      Did Jesus of Nazareth do such things? Mere men fail the ideal. Public men usually fail on a grand scale. Thus the constant need of forgiveness and mercy from a very real and just Creator. This is the essential meaning of Jesus Christ. He did live flawlessly, died and rose again to make available a settled peace with our Maker. I cannot think of anything more loving and kind that anyone could do for me.
      It is not difficult to find the glaring faults of men and use them to justify one’s own superiority. But I wonder how you sort out the good and the non-good at all? On what firm basis do you criticize Augustine or Luther? I suppose as an atheist you have dismissed the construct of good and evil entirely. That is, until someone rips off your car.
      If we are going to watch the progress of jihad and strategize it’s defeat, we had better have a solid moral foundation from which to judge Islam. Atheism is a very sandy patch in this regard.

    • gravenimage says

      Aug 9, 2016 at 10:38 pm

      abbas has spammed this same cut-and-paste on several threads now.

      Of course, it is not Christians murdering others in the name of their faith, but abbas’ own violent coreligionists.

      And quoting Dawkins here could not be more perverse. Dawkins is actually far more critical of Islam than of other faiths; he has strongly noted what a threat Islam presents to *any* nonbelievers, including himself.

  11. Dennis says

    Aug 8, 2016 at 11:12 am

    This an has become a “true believer”. He quotes everything. I have heard his testimony in the same words over and over. But I am not surprised. Living in Latin America I observed that Christians were taught not to think or reason but to blindly accept. So this fellow went from one blind to another.

  12. Ciudadano says

    Aug 8, 2016 at 12:25 pm

    How ironic for a jihadi to be named “Trinidadi”

  13. abbas says

    Aug 8, 2016 at 1:47 pm

    It’s a horrible idea that God, this paragon of wisdom and knowledge, power, couldn’t think of a better way to forgive us our sins than to come down to Earth in his alter ego as his son and have himself hideously tortured and executed so that he could forgive himself.
    Richard Dawkins

    Nothing is wrong with peace and love. It is all the more regrettable that so many of Christ’s followers seem to disagree.
    Richard Dawkins

    The church says the earth is flat, but I know that it is round, for I have seen the shadow on the moon, and I have more faith in a shadow than in the church. — Ferdinand Magellan

    “ I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.
    Mahatma Gandhi

    “ One would go mad if one took the Bible seriously; but to take it seriously one must be already mad.
    Aleister Crowley , Magick: Liber ABA: Book 4

    “ The spiritualization of sensuality is called love: it is a great triumph over Christianity.
    Friedrich Nietzsche

    “ If Jesus had been killed twenty years ago, Catholic school children would be wearing little electric chairs around their necks instead of crosses.
    Lenny Bruce

    • Jack Diamond says

      Aug 8, 2016 at 2:18 pm

      Quite a fishing expedition, to find some famous people who said something negative about Christians,
      including a screwball like Aleister Crowley as a voice of reason. As if they would also all be fine with:
      “If you refuse (being subjugated and humiliated), then the only thing between you and us is the sword.”

      You are a flack for the murder and genocide of Christians. Or do you have a problem with Trinidadi?

    • LR says

      Aug 8, 2016 at 7:03 pm

      Lenny Bruce was amazing, and cut through the bs…If he were around he would give you a good cursing out ‘abbas’, and maybe a good slap upside your silly head. He would be mouthing off at murderous Jihadi bastards a lot more than hypocritical and oppressive Christians.

    • gravenimage says

      Aug 9, 2016 at 11:50 pm

      More spam. Notice that the vile abbas has not a word of criticism for his genocidal coreligionist.

    • Cecilia Ellis says

      Aug 10, 2016 at 12:11 am

      Abbas, a few questions for you:

      1. Where were the great Muslims to confirm Magellan’s charge?
      2. Does the Qur’an make Muslims go mad … as 1400 years of murder sprees seems to indicate such?
      3. Do Muslims emulate Muhammad, pervert and murderer that he was?
      4. Does Islam spiritualize sensuality with its institionalized rape, polygamy, and carnal Paradise of eternal sex?
      5. Do you ever acknowledge that Islam inspires evil, as you focus on other religions and ideologies, which do not mandate evil?

  14. WorkingClassPost says

    Aug 8, 2016 at 2:13 pm

    The story of this young guy’s descent into terrorism should be a salient lesson to all the wishful thinkers and ignorant apologists for islam.

    As the most successful copy-cat religion, islam is well versed over 1400 years, in appealing to impressionistic and disillusioned Christians and even Jews, but a religion, like anything else, is not what some people say it is, and must be judged on it’s actual teachings and the sanctioned deeds of it’s adherents.

    For example, every politician will claim that their party is best for the country, and that it’s members have our interests at heart and are beyond corruption, but that does not make it so.

    Similarly, muslims are adept at taking some of the ideals of Christianity, and claiming them as their own.

    The big problems arise because, unlike with politics and politicians, our culture does not encourage us to scrutinize and be suspicious of religions and those claiming to be ‘devout’, so the unsuspecting can be easily seduced by promises that are made specifically for their needs and understanding.

    This is where establishment attempts to preserve myth of islam is really dangerous and self destructive. Would this boy have been so ready to join the RoP if he had known the truth about mohamed and the methodology of his cult?

    From what he said, I doubt it.

    The mind numbing reality of this abomination is that even those who join with good intentions, believing it to be all the things it pretends to be, are so quickly compliant and committed to the evil pile of shit that it really is, and ready to do and think all the things that would’ve been inconceivable to them, before they stuck their noses in the dirt and their arses in the air.

    • boakai ngombu says

      Aug 8, 2016 at 4:39 pm

      i think this is a hit piece, a tale reworked by many editors, (or else this small boy is the best of speakers)

      he was in a going Sunday School. but dropped were commands, like: thou shall not steal … murder … covet commands this person (there are many Abu’s ) learned but couldn’t follow because of village ways. Abu probably was asked to chill. he did remember that the people in the church were happy, but later, after he got education

      it’s a story about how a cell is formed. and do the participants love vengeance. brutality and vengeance for the common good. street urchins need a reason to keep on doing what they like.

  15. Daniel Triplett says

    Aug 8, 2016 at 3:13 pm

    Why have nuclear weapons if we’re not willing to use them to defend ourselves? The Muslims are deadly serious about using them against us.

    We made peace with the Japanese in 1945.

    It’s time to make peace with the Muslims:

    “Total War: Extinguishing Islam from Earth” @dantriplett https://medium.com/@dantriplett/islamic-jihad-is-total-war-for-all-marbles-6c858098b76e

  16. Guest says

    Aug 8, 2016 at 6:01 pm

    Come at me with a sword. I have a gun.

  17. Guy Jones says

    Aug 8, 2016 at 10:38 pm

    So, this dope was turned off to Christianity (in part) by the actions of his adulterous pastor. Thus, in his wisdom, he decided that it was more morally upright and more devout to give his allegiance to an ideology that promotes genocide, atrocities and aggression in its name.

    What’s fascinating about so many of the adherents of “Submission” is how they are totally unaware of the hypocrisy of their alleged piety. Under “Submission,” the most heinous conduct is not only justified, it is viewed as being ordered by Divine command. A man who believes that he posseses a license from God to kill or to subjugate innocents is dangerous beyond belief.

  18. Fvg says

    Aug 9, 2016 at 12:40 am

    The sacred stone is itself idolatrous. Leviticus 26:1.

    • Keys says

      Aug 9, 2016 at 9:33 am

      A fitting biblical quotation, Fvg. One more example of the hypocrisy side of Islam.

  19. Baucent says

    Aug 9, 2016 at 3:27 am

    Interesting interview. I had no idea Islam had so infiltrated Trinidad and Tobago.

    “My knowledge of only the first two commandments gave me the understanding that what they were practicing was not in line with the truth.”

    This is interesting as it seems his knowledge of the Bible was extremely limited. Had he not read the Commandment about “thou shall not kill” ? Did he have any idea of the the teaching of Jesus, which talks of loving enemies and turning the other cheek? His understanding of the second commandment is also unsound as it referred to the worship of images rather than the true unseen God. I doubt even Trinidadian Baptists worship images of Jesus.

    • gravenimage says

      Aug 10, 2016 at 12:02 am

      Trinidad has the largest Muslim population in the Caribbean–6% of the population.

  20. bostongal912 says

    Aug 9, 2016 at 4:36 am

    This fool has his commandments mixed up! What an idiot! It figures he hooked up with a Muslim and then became one because he really didn’t know the Bible! If he did than he would know Islam is a false religion!

  21. Ayinde says

    Aug 9, 2016 at 4:41 am

    This is a confused guy, if he claims the his pastor commits adultery what does he say of the so called prophet of Islam who took the wife of bios adopted son, defiled a minor and what not/ am sure he has not read that far and possibly hidden from him. Consider the two a prophet and the pastor.

    felt sorry for the guys his knowledge of the faith he claim to profess is very shallow.

  22. xavier says

    Aug 9, 2016 at 6:26 am

    Fine nothing stand between us but the sword and we’really all targets. Great. Now we’ll humilate you too by killing and blowing you guys up. After all you love death.

  23. kevinrad says

    Aug 9, 2016 at 9:39 am

    He saw you coming matey, maybe you had sucker tattooed on you forehead. Yes, now a Jihadi you picked up on the first 2 commandments and completely ignored the 6th. You also forgot that in Christ is a new way, a way of grace, because no man can keep the law—that is why Jesus Christ came, because man cannot save himself. Jihadi, you have dispised the way of grace that Christ so painfully won for you, what sacrifice is left for your soul? in whom will you trust for your salvation? surely not Mohammad, the murderer, the paedophile, the robber and the bandit—whenever was such behaviour that of a prophet, whenever was such behaviour acceptable to God? Prophets have to be holier than than the best of men DON’T THEY? —not infinitely worse. You need to turn back and repent, turn away from thoughts of killing and murder and return to Christ or you are truly lost.

  24. UNCLE VLADDI says

    Aug 9, 2016 at 8:48 pm

    Muhammad himself was an atheist who rode around Arabia extorting, enslaving and murdering everyone he could rob while pretending he did it to “punish their disbelief in his unknowable god.”

    By claiming his god was unknowable, he denied its existence in any intelligible relation to humanity.

    He used violence to force others to “admit” that a personal compassionate (or even conscious) god didn’t exist.

    If either a god or a devil actually existed, the case could be made that such actions would be motivated by the latter. If neither exist, then such acts (attacking innocent other people for their “offenses” of self-indulgence) could only be motivated as excuses for personal gain.

    Finally, islam is only idolatry, because Muhammad admittedly only spoke with and received his ‘revelations’ from, an angel. Muhammad admitted he had never spoken with “allah.”

    That dispenses with islam’s false claims of being a “religion” at all, much less one “of peace!”

    All muslims are atheists, because they have no faith in their god’s desires or ability to enforce even its own us-versus-them and might-makes-right tenets.

    The Qur’an clearly and specifically tells muslims the Bible is wrong and also that all Christians and Jews are infidel criminals who worship a false god, and who must therefore be extorted, enslaved, and murdered for their “crime” of not being muslims:

    Sura (Chapter) 47:1-4 of the Qur’an:

    1: non-muslims are bad, because they insult allah by dividing his nature;
    2: muslims are good, because to them allah is the cause of everything;
    3: Allah made them both like that;
    4: So muslims should chop off the non-muslims’ heads.
    (Allah could have done it himself, but he wants you muslims to do it for him).”

    …

    It’s all right there, in context: islamic violence is entirely general doctrine-driven, and not at all specific grievance-driven.

    (And chapter 47 isn’t by any stretch even remotely the worst, most violent chapter; that honor goes to either chapter 8 or 9).

    …

    So, if and when you consider islam to be a religion, you must agree with it’s main tenet: that God is a violent murderer who wants his muslim tribe to violently conquer the world by extorting, enslaving, and murdering all the non-muslim humans, right?

    At worst, all ‘real’ religions only say:

    “Obey our silly rules, or GOD (/’the gods’) will get you!”

    But ONLY islam says:

    “Obey our silly rules, or WE will get you (‘for god’)!”

    A forced faith isn’t a “faith” at all – it’s only extortion, and extortion is always a crime!

    Here’s islam’s “holy Message from god” as exemplified by the collective words and deeds of it’s Founder:

    “I will save humanity by lying to, extorting, torturing, robbing, burning out of their homes, kidnapping and ransoming, enslaving, raping and murdering everyone who even only verbally disagrees with me – and you can, too!”

    – Muhammad –

    Muhammad was really only a con-man and bandit-king, an arch-criminal who always blamed “god” for his own penchant for committing crimes. If Moe got away with committing a crime (and he tried them all, enthusiastically, more than once, but instead of ever showing contrition, bragged about how much fun it was to commit them, and advised everyone else to join in the fun, too), then it was held to be “obvious” that “god” wanted him to get away with having committed those crimes!

    So, again: islam is not a “religion” (at all, much less one “of peace”) nor is it a “race” (at all, much less one of “Poor, Oppressed, People Of Colour”)!

    Obviously, islam is ONLY an ancient, ongoing extortion-racket CRIME-syndicate, and the only “religious” part in it, is where they say:

    “God told us to commit these crimes!”

    (Capisce?)!

    BOTTOM LINE: Muhammad himself was a cowardly psychotic criminal who wrote a book of lies telling everyone else what fun it was to be him.

    Forget allah, study Muhammad!

    Shirk: assigning partners to Allah, is one of the worst sins in Islam. But Allah has a partner in decision making and ownership of the proceeds of Jihad!!! 8.1 & 8.41 prove that Allah & Moe are war crime partners! 33.36 proves that they are partners in legislating. That is shirk. That is internal contradiction!

  25. gravenimage says

    Aug 9, 2016 at 9:26 pm

    ISIS to Christians: Convert or “live under the authority of Islam in humiliation,” or “only thing between you and us is the sword”
    ……………………….

    The truth about the “religion of peace”…

  26. Kay says

    Aug 10, 2016 at 1:35 am

    @ Cecilia Ellis
    Thanks for your questions to the troll above. I had been reading some developmental educational works and tried for some questioning to help “unfold” the erroneous and probably automatic thinking, but I found it difficult.
    Yours were eloquent and made me smile.

    • Cecilia Ellis says

      Aug 10, 2016 at 2:13 am

      Kay, thank you for your most kind reply. Just want you to know that I read your comments all the time and find them spot on.

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