Arab social media users are concluding before any investigation that the killing of New York imam Maulama Akonjee and his assistant Thara Uddin was a case of “Christian terror”, while also accusing Donald Trump of incitement through “terrorist statements”.
Islamic jihadists are busy striking terror into the hearts of disbelievers (cf. Qur’an 8:12) the world over, but these tricksters on social media are harefooted to levy preposterous charges about “Christian terror” with no evidence whatsoever.
“Arab Social Media Users: Killing of NY Imam was ‘Christian Terror'”, by Ali Waked, Breitbart, August 15, 2016:
JAFFA, Israel – Despite a lack of information on the killings, Arab social media has been laden with accusations of “Christian terror” regarding the case of an imam and his friend who were gunned down Saturday in Queens, NY shortly after leaving a mosque where they were reciting afternoon prayers.
The victims were identified by the NYPD as Imam Maulama Akonjee, 55 and Thara Uddin, 65. Both men were shot at close range, just a block away from the mosque. The imam was pronounced dead at the scene, while Uddin died four hours later at Jamaica Hospital.
The shooter, according to Deputy Inspector Henry Sautner from the 106th precinct, remains at large. According to Sautner, the shooter is believed to be a “male with medium complexion dressed in a dark polo shirt and shorts.”
The authorities added that the motive has not been determined, but community members, predominantly Muslims, are calling the murders a hate crime, with some going so far as to blame Donald Trump.
“That’s not what America is about,” Khairul Islam, 33, a local resident, told the Daily News. “We blame Donald Trump for this. Trump and his drama have created Islamophobia.”
Arab social media users decried the act as “Christian terror,” which was one of the hashtags trending on Twitter in Arabic.
“Religious incitement threatens the unity of the American nation, and that’s all because of Trump’s terrorist statements,” Said Aljabarti tweeted. “He’s the first to be blamed”…

Luke says
They seem so quiet when Muslims are mowing people down for Mohammed’s sake.
JawsV says
That’s because the Muslims’ “holy” book commands them to kill non-Muslims (Jihad).
eagle says
JawsV, could that be “Satan Book”?
TruthWFree says
Satan is the revealer of the Quran…no doubt in my mind.
TruthWFree says
That “unholy” evil Satanic book was revealed to Muhammad by Satan. Satan is the one who “commands” in the Quran. Of course, Muhammad could have made it all up, but for this evil death cult religion to last 1400 years makes me lean toward Satan, “the father of all lies” as Jesus Christ calls him in John 8:44.
Resistant says
iSSlam will reap the fruit of hatred, deceit and karma. Thete will be more to come,
efoc says
Typical Islamic projection and victimhood.
jayell says
Quite. They couldn’t think of a reasonable, intelligent response, so they just spouted this knee-jerk garbage, parroting all the fashionable buzz-words out of context whether or not it made any sense. You normally expect this sort of thing from intellectually-challenged primary school kids.
eagle says
Jayell, or mentally deformed Muslims that like to write for CAIR and the Muslim Brotherhood. There is only one answer for America and that is to force congress to start passing bills that would reclassify the Muslim Culture as a Hate organization along with CAIR and the Muslim Brotherhood. This can only happen if you vote for Trump. Don’t forget, NEVER HILLARY, vote for TRUMP!!!!!
jayell says
Hello Eagle. Sadly I’m a UK citizen sitting here in the depths of darkest east London (no, my bit’s actually very nice), but if I could vote it would most certainly be Mr. Trump – the only one who actually gives the impression of being HONEST!!! and saying how things REALLY are despite the inevitable PC backlash! You can tell the rest are getting jittery because they’re getting aggressive and piling on the propaganda every time they think Mr. Trump’s put his foot in it. The ‘in’ crowd over here tried the same sort of thing before our famous ‘Brexit’ vote and they actually thought they had it in the bag – until the official result came through! Hopefully the Great American Public have also got their wits about them!
gabi says
Ha, they think this is “Christian terror”?? Well, don’t ever try to wake up the real “Christian terror”. The jihadists are like children who try to upset a sleeping tiger. And I’m afraid they are encouraged to wake up the tiger.
JSteering says
There is one simple question to be asked of Muslims and others crying “Islamophobia” and pushing the victim narrative: why would anyone in the non-Muslim world NOT be angry, suspicious, and fearful of a religion whose followers believe they are doing their religious duty by slamming airliners into buildings and murdering 3000 people, cutting the throats of 85-year-old priests, or crushing babies in strollers with trucks? Who are the real victims here?
eagle says
JSteering, I agree with you.. You speak the truth about the Muslim Brotherhood. CAIR calls this Islamophobia. The game the Muslim media plays. Did you know? The only answer to this problem is to make Sharia Law the law of the land. This is what Obama and Hillary wants. It is necessary and it is time for the US to fundamentally change as Obama said he would do with the help of Hillary and congress to get ready for the NWO and OWG. They are to use the Muslim culture and Sharia Law to govern the American people. The infidels women and children will be raped and killed as they are in Europe and the UK under Sharia Law. As easy and lawless as picking an apple off a tree. Congress and the American people are akin to being deaf and blind to it all until when it happens. Kiss America goodbye in November. We can all go down crying. Does anyone have an answer to the obvious that is about to happen???
Janeatte says
I think the only one deserve to be rapped is Hillary, and I think she is already rapped by Obama and the religion of Obama
jayell says
I believe that a lot of people think that Hillary should be ‘rapped’ (with two p’s). Perhaps the only ones who believe that she should be ‘raped’ (with one ‘p’) would be those in need of very strong spectacles (eyeglasses). Did Bill have problems this way?
Carolyne says
Has everyone noticed the outfits Hillary wears? All she needs is a Hijab and it would be a compete Muslim outfit–by Omar the Tentmaker. She must have had 100 of those ugly identical outfits made for her campaign. Maybe she should have gotten some fashion advice from a designer or something before Omar made those out of date pantsuits.
Jayell–Apparently Bill had no eyesight problems, his problem was lower down. Anything that could be classified as female, it appears. He wasn’t very particular.
linnte says
Some of those outfits are costing her in the area of 10k dollars! All designer one of a kinds. It’s a shame to cover that ancient, rotting body with such finery.
Lion of Judah's Cub says
I have heard from several strong Christians that Hillary projects a Jezebel spirit and Bill the King Ahab spirit.
David M says
Now they know what non Muslims in western countries are going through almost every day.
It was probably another Muslim anyway.
marina says
Don’t think they will ever know. They are for some strange reason very insensitive towards non-muslims.
JawsV says
That “strange reason” is called the Quran.
occupant 9 says
… and the example of Mohammed, the, ahem, “perfect man.”
Carolyne says
Even if the authorities know for a fact it was a Muslim, we will never know because they cover up Muslim crimes. Before a body is cold they announce it was not terrorism with no proof at all. But in this instance, when a Muslim was killed, they immediately know, by osmosis apparently, that it was a Christian.
Jesse says
Muhammadan insanity is becoming tiresome.
Alexius Comnenus says
Yes. The best historical liars are …you know whom.
Bridget Ames says
Yeah right, first off if it was someone who happened to be Christian, they were not acting within the creeds of their teaching. But I wouldn’t be surprised if it turned out to be Muslim on Muslim crime. Otherwise I might search to see if they had any connection to Hilary.
SK says
This suspect was supposed to be Hispanic.
Veka Fitzfrancis says
Lots of Muslim converts in Mexico City, just saying…
Barry says
…..wow, rush to judgment….labelling this crime as ‘Christian Terror’ without the facts is an obvious display of Christophobia….
Carolyne says
But this is New York–DiBlasio’s bailiwick.
Bridget Ames says
“That’s not what America is about,” Khairul Islam, 33, a local resident, told the Daily News. “We blame Donald Trump for this. Trump and his drama have created Islamophobia.”
Vigilante Islamic terrorism is what created Islamophobia, people wouldn’t be so afraid if Muslims around the world stopped their violent actions.
JawsV says
No, Islam created “Islamophobia.” No other religion has to have “phobia” attached to it.
Lioness says
The only cause of Islamophobia is Islam.
Carolyne says
Khairul Islam has no idea whatsoever what America is about. He just heard that phrase from Hillary. What he thinks and hopes America is about is likely what Saudi Arabia is about. Don’t you just hate that phrase?
Jay Boo says
Obama will caution Muslims “Not to jump to conclusions”.
He will say this has nothing to do with Christians and their religion.
Won’t he?
john spielman says
don’t hold your breath
Veka Fitzfrancis says
Not when he doesn’t believe it himself.
Will Doohan says
Without any evidence, they assume that the lone gunman was a Christian. Then they make up the preposterous lie that Trump invented and spreads the phony mindset of “islamaphobia”.
The facts in the case? Who cares about those when you have your sociopathic ‘narrative’ to spread.
marina says
There are no cries of protests from muslims when thousands of non- muslims are opressed or killed. No rally, no condemning these attacks. But when one of their own is killed then Trump is the enemy, west is at war with islam etc,
The usual whining has no end.
abbas says
“Christianity is the most ridiculous, the most absurd and bloody religion that has ever infected the world.”
-Voltaire, French author and playwright (1694-1778)
Augustine, Aquinas, Luther, and Calvin. The four greatest Christian thinkers in history used the teachings of Bible to torture and kill heretics, witches, and apostates.,
John Calvin had Michael Servetus burned at the stake in Geneva for heresy when he said that God was not a trinity. Martin Luther had 4 witches burned at the stake at Wittenburg in 1541. In his theological writings, Aquinas called for the death penalty for the sin of heresy.
Lighthouses are more helpful then churches. — Benjamin Franklin
The church says the earth is flat, but I know that it is round, for I have seen the shadow on the moon, and I have more faith in a shadow than in the church. — Ferdinand Magellan
“ I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.
Mahatma Gandhi
“ One would go mad if one took the Bible seriously; but to take it seriously one must be already mad.
Aleister Crowley , Magick: Liber ABA: Book 4
“ If Jesus had been killed twenty years ago, Catholic school children would be wearing little electric chairs around their necks instead of crosses.
Lenny Bruce
“ No one can violently attack something without taking it seriously in some way. No one attacks belief in Zeus anymore. No one gets emotional over the Flat Earth Society. Yet Christianity calls forth the deepest emotions — even and especially in the ones who most reject it.
Gene Edward Veith Jr., Loving God with All Your Mind: Thinking as a Christian in a Postmodern World
“ Thou hast conquered, O pale Galilean; the world has grown grey from thy breath;/ We have drunken of things Lethean, and fed on the fullness of death
Algernon Charles Swinburne
“We would be 1,500 years ahead if it hadn’t been for the church dragging science back by its coattails and burning our best minds at the stake.” – Catherine Fahringer
Jay Boo says
All Muslims are to be despised.
Surely you must ay least admit that.
Jay Boo says
Mahatma Gandhi was clearly a bigot if he made such a broad generalization of “Christians” in the manner that you claim.
Mahatma Gandhi said
“I value the spirit behind idol-worship.”
I bet you are sharpening your knife over that, but you are too late abbas, He is already dead.
Malcolm (SouthAfria) says
Are you on drugs, Mr Abbas?
JawsV says
Yes, the drug called Islam.
c matt says
Umm, the Church knew the world was round long before Magellan was even born. Even the Ancient Greeks knew it.
And if not for the Church and its teaching that God and His creation are knowable and intelligible, the scientific method would never have gotten off the ground.
eagle says
abbas, you are engaging in Muslim politics, it all Taqiyya!! Your statement; “Christianity (The Muslim Culture) is the most ridiculous, the most absurd and bloody religion that has ever infected the world.” This speaks the truth. Everything you say is Muslim hate crime against the Christians. This is what your CAIR calls Islamophobia. A fake word made up to assist the Muslim hate for Christians. There is no appeasing the Muslim Culture as the war began more than 1400 years ago against the Christians. The Muslim cult does not fit in with any country as no country wants people so mentally ill, there is not enough drugs to treat them all. There is only one answer for America and that is to force congress to start passing bills that would reclassify the Muslim Culture as a Hate organization along with CAIR and the Muslim Brotherhood. This can only happen if you vote for Trump. Trump will be your new Allah. Trump will work for you and make it legal for you to have fun. Don’t worry about the 71 virgins for Jihad that was Taqiyya!! You can get the blowup dolls at Walmart. You can have more fun with them and stay alive to buy more with your next welfare check. Don’t forget, NEVER HILLARY, vote for TRUMP!!!!!
JawsV says
It’s 72 virgins the Muslims believe they will use as receptacles for their dicks in the Islamic paradise. Yes, “abbas” believes that bullcrap his fake prophet made up.
Allan says
Voltaire was uninformed.
Kepha says
Indeed, Voltaire leaves much to be desired. His praise of Islam against Christianity was a case of the grass being always greener on the other side of the fence.
As for his quote that he might disagree with what someone says but fight to the death for his right to say it, it has reached the point where Uncle Kepha always counts the spoons and loose change after some liberal quotes it to him.
Allan says
If Islam had been invented in Chicago during the 1920’s, its flag would have a Tommy gun on it.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thompson_submachine_gun#/media/File%3ASubmachine_gun_M1928_Thompson.jpg
Lucretius says
Gandhi liked the Christ he learned about from Leo Tolstoy in his books on pacificism, anarchism, and non-violent resistance such as “The Kingdom Of God Is Within You.” Tolstoy taxed “Constantinian Christianity” with a betrayal of Christ because it did not follow his understanding of “resist not evil with evil.” But true Christians have always had the better of such as Tolstoy, Gandhi, and their Hagarene detractors, as St Cyril did here:
“When St. Cyril Equal-to-the-Apostles was sent by the Patriarch of Constantinople to preach the gospel among the Saracens, in their capital city he had to enter into a dispute about faith with Muhamadden scholars. Among others, they asked him: ‘Your God is Christ. He commanded you to pray for enemies, to do good to those who hate and persecute you and to offer the other cheek to those who hit you, but what do you actually do? If anyone offends you, you sharpen your sword and go into battle and kill. Why do you not obey your Christ?’ Having heard this, St. Cyril asked his fellow-polemecists: ‘If there are two commandments written in one law, who will be its best respecter – the one who obeys only one commandment or the one who obeys both?’ When the Hagarenes said that the best respecter of law is the one who obeys both commandments, the holy preacher continued: ‘Christ is our God Who ordered us to pray for our offenders and to do good to them. He also said that no one of us can show greater love in life than he who gives his life for his friends (Jn. 15:3). That is why we generously endure offences caused us as private people. But in company we defend one another and give our lives in battle for our neighbors, so that you, having taken our fellows prisoners, could not imprison their souls together with their bodies by forcing them into renouncing their faith and into godless deeds. Our Christ-loving soldiers protect our Holy Church with arms in their hands. They safeguard the sovereign in whose sacred person they respect the image of the rule of the Heavenly King. They safeguard their land because with its fall the home authority will inevitably fall too and the evangelical faith will be shaken. These are precious pledges for which soldiers should fight to the last. And if they give their lives in battlefield, the Church will include them in the community of the holy martyrs and call them intercessors before God’.”
gravenimage says
abbas has posted this spam before:
The idea that figures like Voltaire in their critique of Christianity were somehow hence lauding Islam is, of course, ludicrous. Voltaire was *scathing* in his criticism of the oppressive and violent creed of Islam.
abbas does not understand that anyone is allowed to criticize religion in the free West.
This is not something abbas’ corelgionists allow vis-a-vis Islam in Dar-al-Islam.
Lucretius says
“We would be 1,500 years ahead if it hadn’t been for the church dragging science back by its coattails and burning our best minds at the stake.” – Catherine Fahringer
The only scientist I know of that was burned at the stake was Giordano Bruno in 1600. Deplorable yes, but no to 1,500 years of burning or dragging science back by its coattails. Give us a list of these scientists being dragged back by religiously prompted secular authorities since the mid-4th century
Near the beginning of that period of the Church’s ascendancy, the immensely influential Augustine wrote
“It is often the case that a non-Christian happens to know something with absolute certainty and through experimental evidence about the earth, sky, and other elements of this world, about the motions, rotation, and even about the size and distances of stars, about certain defects [eclipses] of the sun and moon, about the cycles of years and epochs, about the nature of animals, fruits, stones, and the like. It is, therefore, very deplorable and harmful, and to be avoided at any cost that he should hear a Christian give, so to speak, a “Christian account” of these topics in such a way that he could hardly hold his laughter on seeing, as the saying goes, the error rise sky-high.”
Augustine realized that when statements of the Bible conflicted with hypotheses of the workings of nature and when reason and observation provided no clear solution and decisive evidence, nor did Scripture seem to be explicitly literal, then the matter was open to further inquiry. Whenever scientific reasoning seemed to settle a matter, however, he urged that Scripture would have to be reinterpreted.
Furthermore, as Stanley Jaki has shown, it was only on the basis of a fundamental break with the idea of the eternity of the ceaselessly cycling motion of the world as proceeding necessarily and eternally from the Prime Mover which is always actual, which set the stage for Jean Buridan’s impetus theory of motion, which lies at the basis of modern physics. For in Christianity, the world began in time by a unique act of will, only the Son and the Holy spirit are eternally begotten and eternally proceed from the Father, the Source, and there is but one unique never to be repeated Incarnation of the Son.
tonynoboloney says
I could find 1000’s of quotes negative to islam, your point?
james says
“can you believe that anyone believes this lie” Mohammad on his death bed.
Eirene says
Getting pretty good at cut and paste, abbas, eh?! Had some recent lessons at
acquiring wisdom?
Carolyne says
I haven’t heard that during my lifetime anyway, any organized Christians burning people alive for their religion. Islam however…..
The opinions of so-called philosophers are just that—Opinions. I take what I know to be a fact as fact–that Muslims are bloodthirsty, low IQ pigmen and their “prophet” was the worst of all (Piss be upon him.)
Lion of Judah's Cub says
Wow, great quotes from satanists and pagans – what shining examples of humanity (NOT!).
Compare Christian nations to Islamic nations with respect to human rights, economic development, innovation, education, art and culture, treatment of women, etc. Sorry Christian nations (and Israel) are far far superior.
Barry says
…what’s good for the goose is good for the gander….tit for tat…
John says
The imam’s name doesn’t sound shia or sunni. Is it amadhi? Especially if he was a preacher of peace? Could it be a try believer, refugee killing an apostate?
john spielman says
probably a shia mulsim who killed him because he was sunni, or vise versa, or just another angry muslim who killed him because he wasn’t religious enough
Mark Swan says
If the Police are able to solve this one—I believe it may end up the way you say.
Kenneth Olson says
Something tells me Islam had something to do with this act. The sooner they catch the perp, the better.
Carolyne says
Or killed him just for the hell of it.
Angemon says
Is it the same Arab social media that cheered the jihad attacks in France and Germany?
Carolyne says
Yes, that would be the same social media.
overman says
“male with medium complexion” – yeah, right lol
The real suspect was probably a muslim who thought this lmam was NOT a ‘true muslim’.
West says
We can point to literally thousands of islamic motivated terror attacks, maybe by now even tens of thousands as its daily and if a group like isis has tens of thousands of members who all commit various acts if terror well you get the point, what can muslims point to?
They can point to 1 alleged attack which may very well turn out to be muslims killing muslims, or secret services taking out supposed terrorists.
Nobody waits in line at the airport thinking oh God please dont let Christians bring the plane down, but everybody even muslims questions if some muslim will AGAIN try something.
Its muslims who are killing in the name of God not Christians.
common sense says
But the Orlando shooter was ‘mentally deranged’.
Anyone with a brain that actually pays attention can see through 1400 years of the Muslim double standard.
abbas says
to jay boo
M.K.Gandhi, YOUNG INDIA, 1924
“…I became more than ever convinced that it was not the sword that won a place for Islam in those days in the scheme of life. It was the rigid simplicity, the utter self-effacement of the prophet, the scrupulous regard for his pledges, his intense devotion to his friends and followers, his intrepidity, his fearlessness, his absolute trust in God and his own mission. These, and not the sword carried everything before them and surmounted every trouble.” YOUNG INDIA, 1924
JawsV says
Gandhi was completely deluded. Yes, it’s the sword concerning Islam.
overman says
Ghandi was a racist, bigot and hypocrite – probably a pervert as well. Most ppl don’t know the real truth about him.
overman says
Also,he’ll be getting a lot of praise in lndia today [lndependence day in lndia], even though he probably delayed it by 25 years.
Malcolm (SouthAfria) says
St. John Damascene (d. 749), Syrian Arab Catholic monk and scholar. Quoted from his book On Heresies under the section On the Heresy of the Ishmaelites (in The Fathers of the Church. Vol. 37. Translated by the Catholic University of America. CUA Press. 1958. Pages 153-160.)
“We profess Christ to be truly God and your prophet to be a precursor of the Antichrist and other profane doctrine.”
Malcolm (SouthAfria) says
Correction
“We profess Christ to be truly God and your prophet to be a precursor of the Antichrist and other profane doctrine.”
The above quote comes from:
Sts. Habenitus, Jeremiah, Peter, Sabinian, Walabonsus, and Wistremundus (d. 851), martyrs of Cordoba, Spain. Reported in the Memoriale Sanctorum in response to Spanish Umayyad Caliph ‘Abd Ar-Rahman II’s ministers that they convert to Islam on pain of death.
Malcolm (SouthAfria) says
“There is also the superstition of the Ishmaelites which to this day prevails and keeps people in error, being a forerunner of the Antichrist…. From that time to the present a false prophet named Mohammed has appeared in their midst. This man, after having chanced upon the Old and New Testaments and likewise, it seems, having conversed with an Arian monk, devised his own heresy. Then, having insinuated himself into the good graces of the people by a show of seeming piety, he gave out that a certain book had been sent down to him from heaven. He had set down some ridiculous compositions in this book of his and he gave it to them as an object of veneration.”
-St. John Damascene (d. 749)
Malcolm (SouthAfria) says
“The Mahometan paradise, however, is only fit for beasts; for filthy sensual pleasure is all the believer has to expect there.”
St. Alfonsus Liguori (d. 1787). Quoted from his book, The History of Heresies and their Refutation.
The link to these quotes are:
http://www.onepeterfive.com/what-did-the-saints-say-about-islam/
overman says
Yeah, 270,000,000 died not because of the Sword, but because of the ‘utter self-effacement of the prophet’. LOL – give me a break.
gravenimage says
Just because Gandhi wanted desperately to believe that Islam wasn’t violent does not mean that is the case.
Besides, abbas–like every other pious Mohammedan–despises Hindus.
Carolyne says
And it was Ghandi who wore a diaper and slept between two teen-age girls every night–to keep him warm, so he said. On the occasion of Queen Elizabeth’s marriage, Ghandi sent her as a wedding present one of his handmade loincloths. Queen Mary picked it up to examine it but when told what it was, she dropped it in horror. I don’t think the Queen ever wore the loincloth, though. Ghandi was mentally ill, but let’s not mention that. And whatever he said has no importance to me at all. Just another voice.
maffi says
Did Gandhi know the body count 270 million and rising.
overman says
l was trying to post just now and got blocked by some cloud firewall. Anyone else had that?
ls it certain words or too many words?
overman says
Reason it gave: Block reason [no exploits in my post as far as l know lol]: Exploit attempt denied by virtual patching.
DR. CHRISTOPHER LEE says
This is the United States of America!
Muslims will not assimilate to our culture.
And if they do it is because their religion allows them to Lie.
All Muslims should be Deported.
DHazard says
Muslims don’t mind jumping the gun on this story because they are happy just getting any kind of traction on the victim track. If the killer turns out to be a Muslim then they’ll just tell themselves he wasn’t a “real” Muslim or was a CIA or Mossad agent.
Allan says
Abbas needs to be corrected again, and this time it concerns a quote which he attributed to Benjamin Franklin:
Abbas gave no source for his quote, and it appears to be a hoax motivated by fallacious generalization of a remark Franklin made after escape from shipwreck.
See https://fakehistory.wordpress.com/2010/08/23/benjamin-franklin-lighthouses-and-churches/
overman says
Also, his quote from Voltaire is wrong.
Proper Quote by Voltaire – ‘Ours’ refers to the Catholic church.
‘Ours is assuredly the most ridiculous, the most absurd and the most bloody religion which has ever infected this world’
[And considering lslam has slaughtered 270,000,000+ ppl over the last 1400 years, l think we know who’s been shedding the most blood – not to mention the number of slaves etc.]
‘Often misquoted as “Christianity is…”, while in the context, Voltaire was referring specifically to Catholicism” [Catholicism 600 years ago – although, l make no excuses for it in present day]’.
gravenimage says
Yes–misquotes from abbas should come as no surprise.
And Franklin’s *actual* quote is not particularly irreligious, in any case. Sometimes helping people in a practical way is the greatest thing. Certainly, we see this with charity. This is not contradictory at all.
Carolyne says
And in the proper context, as you pointed out, lighthouses would have been more helpful than churches.
gravenimage says
Muslims claim killing of NY imam was “Christian terror,” blame Trump for “Islamophobia”
…………………..
Ridiculous. The killers have not been identified at all; certainly not as either Christians or Trump followers.
In fact, given the record, it would not surprise if this turns out to be more Muslim-on-Muslim violence.
Carolyne says
Not to mention there is no such thing as “Christian terror.” It may be that once in a while a Christian does violence, but not because of Christianity, but despite Christianity’s teachings. In the case of Islamic violence, they are carrying out Islam’s mandate to kill infidels and anyone else they feel like killing.
gravenimage says
Exactly, Carolyn.
davej says
“problems like we have never had before” – Trump.
This seems true – what other immigrant group in our history has arrived with a savage ideology and the express intent of taking over and replacing our laws with their own?
overman says
This is description of someone the cops are questioning, who they say isnt a suspect, but is being kept in custody.:
Police released a sketch early Sunday of a dark-haired, bearded man wearing glasses. Police said witnesses described the shooter as a man with a medium complexion.
And
Surveillance video shows the gunman pumping rounds into the two men in Ozone Park at around 2 p.m. Police sources told The New York Post that they believe the murderer “knew the imam and knew his schedule.
gravenimage says
If he knew the Imam he may well be Muslim himself–perhaps even a member of the Mosque.
overman says
There is a picture of the suspect in this vid [looks muslim to me].
But, look at the reconstruction – see how white they’ve made him.
overman says
The guy in the tie is the president of CAIR-NY
enufizenuf says
This was most likely a hit job (not hijab).
Probably involving either black marketing, trafficking, revenge, adultery, or some such thing.
The likelyhood of it being a religiously motivated hate crime is only about 10-15%.
Janeatte says
I am very sure the killer is Muslims to help Hillary agenda to put the blame on trump
WorkingClassPost says
Will islam never stop?
I’ve interrupted ‘briefly’ a short vacation in strictly non-sharia part of Europe to check this story out.
TV here, lots of MSM, giving it to CAIR and jumping on Trump, but why?
Shooter looks muzzie, and incident very like Scottish imam killed by devout Sunni not long ago.
Will they still want it declared hate crime if muslim did it?
All we can say for certain is likely a targeted hit, and then ask:- Who knew victims and their schedule…
davej says
Muslim on Muslim violence is not unusual, to say the least.
And under Islam disagreements and quibbling over interpretations of the the Great Pervert frequently lead to violence as “the answer”.
We are dealing with emotionally immature brain damaged zombies.
overman says
“And under Islam disagreements and quibbling over interpretations of the Great Pervert frequently lead to violence as “the answer”
Well said in a nutshell.
eagle says
Dave, I have to agree with you. Mentally ill brain dead soulless empty excuses of a human being. If the murderer was a Muslim that didn’t like the teaching of the Imam, what would he possibly disagree with? Would it be the way a Christian or infidel gets his head cut off, go left to right or right to left with the knife? Maybe just on a Christian holiday? The Imam would have to teach from the Quran? Would he have a moderate Muslim Quran? Does he have the right to rewrite the rules like Obama does with the Constitution? Maybe he is just a mentally ill Muslim that likes to write for CAIR and the Muslim Brotherhood. The Obama, CAIR and Muslim Brotherhood would be calling this a hate crime. Loretta Lynch and Obama would make more political hay with this. CAIR would call to America and say the Islamophobia index is rising. We need to force congress to start passing bills that would reclassify the Muslim Culture as a Hate organization along with CAIR and the Muslim Brotherhood. The NWO and One World Government (OWG) is about to take over in November with Hillary. The American people have more serious problems to deal with. This is akin to pig poop on a mosque on a rainy day. Don’t forget, NEVER HILLARY, vote for TRUMP!!!!!
J. Smith says
mexicans must be deported now!!! The only thing Trump, whites and muslims are in agreement. Mexicans will be replaced by the muslim refugees and muslim immigration! Every month about 2000 new muslim migrants enter legally to the USA. Good the US authorities will get rid of those stinking illegal toilet cleaners mexicans. Muslims are LEGAL immigrants and have RIGHTS, and will make sure americans give them all that muslims are entitled to
maffi says
Then who will clean your toilets?
DJM says
Assuming it is “Christian terror”, that would put the score around:
Deadly Islamic Attacks Since 9/11 = 29027
Deadly Christian Attacks Since 9/11 = 1
Gen Jones says
I thought it was odd that immediately after the 2pm shooting those gathered to protest held printed, not hand lettered, already made signs. They said in large red letters We Want Justice and the smaller print at the bottom say Osmani Memorial Trust. Apparently they were made for another Bangladeshi event. There’s something grating about this group “demanding” justice as if the police were not immediately on the scene. I’m proud that NYC has excellent detectives and police on the job. It’s terrible that these men were shot but all the reporting has been completely sympathetic to them, the police arrested a suspect rapidly and they will make their case. In contrast to Bangladesh where a large segment of the public as well as law enforcement feels that the atheist bloggers who’ve been hacked to death shouldn’t have rocked the boat.
dumbledoresarmy says
When they say they demand “justice” what they want is sharia. Lynch law. REVENGE.
They don’t like having to stand back and let infidel law enforcement deal with an infidel suspect according to infidel rules. They don’t want to wait while Infidel cops slowly and patiently identify a suspect and then subject him to *infidel* law (which will probably not execute him but give him “Life”… does New York state have the death penalty?)
What *they* want is to have the suspect given to them, so that they can torture him to death. And in fact, in pretty well any Islamic state, historically, if a dhimmi killed a Muslim, the entire non-Muslim community would be attacked by the Muslim mobs. Dhimmi communities were sometimes attacked by Muslim mobs in response to Muslim jihad raiders having gotten their backsides kicked by *other* non-Muslim communities hundreds or thousands of miles away. If Muslims can’t get at Infidel A who has injured a Muslim or is deemed to have done so, Muslims will happily attack Infidel B who happens to be a/close to hand and b/ vulnerable.
In the photos of the funeral the crowd of one thousand ‘mourners’ looked like a riot getting ready to happen.
The cops shouldn’t be guarding the mosques; they should be beefing up security on every synagogue and Catholic church and other ‘soft target’ within a twenty km radius. Because Muslims love to mete out collective punishment, even if (in the west) they are always squalling at us and telling *us* that we mustn’t ‘condemn an entire religion’ every time allahu-akbaring Muslims do something horrible to helpless infidels in obedience to Quran-Sira-Hadiths.
DefenderofIslm says
Your commit is racely ad Islamopronbic . Mosques pare entitled to police guard as any church that is the law. In NYC lately where many attack onmosques and moslim. How would feel it the didn’t. guard your church.
Gen Jones says
“Guard your church” is that a threat Brian Hoff? Your misuse of the word “than” has uncovered you. However your illiterate ramblings are so perfectly dada-esque I’m going to be chuckling over them all day. I suspect you are actually a brilliant artist and have created an app that generates these near haiku like gems. Don’t let logic sully that tender brain of yours lest you lose the magic.
DefenderofIslm says
Dear General Jones first I didn’t threatened any church. What say than motorcycle gang of 400 skinhead threatened to burn drown your church than Hindi police chief did nothing to stop it or protect the church. The church can sue the police and the police chief for not doing they job.NYC have than city policy of protecting place of workship and that include mosques and Hindi temple.Last November skinhead motorcycle gang threatened to harm our mosque and threatened to harm our sunday school students and staff. The paid off duty cop never show up our Japanese American major have in fit about as many city residents.
linnte says
Islam is NOT a race. Islamophobia is a word meant to stop dialogue about the vile, despicable Islam. Do I hate Islam? YES! DonI hate Muslims? No! You have been deceived by your false prophet, Muhammad. Muhammad was a murderer and baby raper. The West will never allow Islam to control us.
gravenimage says
“DefenderofIslm” wrote, replying to Dumbledore’s Army:
Your commit (sic) is racely (sic) ad (sic) Islamopronbic(sic) .
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Of course, Islam is not a race. And what is “Islamopronbic” about Dumbledore’s Army’s description of the Muslim mindset vis-a-vis “justice”? It is, actually, spot on.
More:
Mosques pare (sic) entitled to police guard as any church that is the law. In NYC lately where many attack onmosques (sic) and moslim (sic). How would feel it the didn’t (sic) . guard your church (sic).
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Actually, there are few attacks on Muslims. Far more common are Muslims attacking Infidels. And no, the police are not guarding Dumbledore’s Army’s church.
More, in reply to Gen (not General) Jones:
Dear General Jones first I didn’t threatened (sic) any church. What say than (sic) motorcycle gang of 400 skinhead threatened to burn drown your church than (sic) Hindi police chief did nothing to stop it or protect the church. The church can sue the police and the police chief for not doing they job.
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Well, *this* is garbled. This (probably) vaguely refers to an incident of racial violence in Clarksville, Tennessee in the mid-1990s, where white supremacists frightened some black residents who had moved into a new neighborhood.
While the membership of the motorcycle club was indeed 400, the idea that the entire membership attacked is completely false–there were two or three perps involved.
Those involved were arrested, tried, and convicted.
There were several church burnings at the time in the South, and there were some fears at the time that they might have been racially motivated; but most of them proved to be arson by teenagers–parishioners of the churches themselves, in several cases.
There appears to have been no request for protection for any local churches at the time of this incident in Tennessee, and certainly no law suits for the police failing to provide protection.
And the bit about the chief of police being Hindu? I can find no confirmation for that, and the statistical likelihood of the police chief in Clarksville, Tennessee being Hindu in the mid-1990s seems quite unlikely. Not due to bigotry, but just because even today there appears to be no organized Hindu community in Clarksville at all. You have to go to Nashville to find a Hindu community center.
So–why the bit about Hindus? Likely for two reasons: firstly, most Muslims hate and despise Hindus, and “DefenderofIslm” probably just liked getting in a dig, not matter how implausible; and then, he probably sees it as a way to try and sow animosity between Hindus and Christians–both victims of Islam–if he can falsely assert that a Hindu failed to protect a Christian church.
More:
NYC have than (sic) city policy of protecting place of workship (sic) and that include (sic) mosques and Hindi temple (sic).Last November skinhead motorcycle gang threatened to harm our mosque and threatened to harm our sunday school students and staff. The paid off duty cop never show up our Japanese American major have in fit (sic) about as many city residents.
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Well, this is vague–and pretty bizarre. I can find no references to a “skinhead motorcycle gang” threatening a Texas Mosque.
This was the closest thing, and may possibly be what “DefenderofIslm” is referring to:
“Armed clash over black mosque triggers anger in South Dallas”
http://thescoopblog.dallasnews.com/2016/04/tense-anti-mosque-protest-draws-armed-demonstrators-in-south-dallas.html/
In this case, the Black Panthers came out in armed force to counter a demonstration against the Nation of Islam’s “promoting violence against Americans openly and publicly”.
In other words, it was not violence against Muslims; it was, instead, a demonstration against *Muslim violence*.
linnte says
Much respect! ?
Gen Jones says
True, DDA. That type of mob anger is truly terrifying. The primal response to aggression can be more aggression – that feeling that you could kill someone who’s harmed your child with your bare hands for example – but then a civilized person calms and wants true justice and a legal system that upholds those values. It’s always such a surprise how the Islamic mindset has such a lack of rationality. Hurt feelings are a rationale for murder. Pieces of paper are more valuable than scores of human lives. The ugly clamor to embrace victimhood. As graven so rightly declares, God, I hate Islam.
gravenimage says
Fine posts, Dumbldore’s Army and Gen Jones.
And to DDA–no, New York state formally abolished the death penalty about a decade ago. It was seldom used even before this.
Moreover, even in states that still have the death penalty, it is usually only used in especially egregious cases–first-degree (pre-planned) murder; multiple victims or those especially vulnerable, such as children; or murder committed in the commission of other crimes, such as robbery. In other words, even in states with the death penalty, it is not at all certain that this would be considered a death penalty case.
But in Dar-al-Islam, as you note, Muslims would likely be violently attacking the whole Christian community on a rumor–even if it later turns out the killer was Muslim.
eagle says
dumbledoresarmy, this Muslim population only wants Sharia Law, they have no allegiance to the American constitution or the ten commandments. The Muslim cult is not of America thanks to our Muslim president. The Muslim cult has been allowed into this country by executive order with voting rights for the democrat party, to continue Obama’s legacy. Obama, Hillary and the Muslim cult is the enemy of the constitution and the American people. Please vote for Trump, never Hillary.
Gen Jones says
Graven, again, much appreciation to you decoding and unpacking this nonsense. You may have typed the understatement of the year “Well, *this* is garbled.” LOL. Indeed.
Guest says
Where’s the proof this is Christian terror? Did the attacker shout, “That’s what you get for not believing in Jesus?” I certainly did not hear that.
tonynoboloney says
I heard he screamed “CHRIST IS LORD” before he shot them!
linnte says
I have no remorse or sorrow for this act of violence. Seeing the short news video posted here, I have never seen a computer mock up of any shootings where Muslims have shot non Muslims. It will probably turn out to be Muslim on Muslim crime. The shooter was probably a “moderate” Muslim who knew the Imam was teaching Jihad. Haahahahahaha!
DefenderofIslm says
Mostly than Christian as there over 2 billion Christian in the world. He is Hispanics Looking. The IRA who where Christian terrorists.
linnte says
Hate to tell you this Mr. Muslim, but Arabic Muslims look Hispanic. Mexicans do not grow beards. Good try though. By the way, did I say Muhammad was a paedophile? Well, now I did, and if you defend THAT you are a paedophile too.
DefenderofIslm says
Some Mexican do grow beard we have some Mexican who have beard. Islam is few growing in America in the past few months we again 8 new member as far as I saw not counting other who declare they islam when I wasn’t there. Your slander remark willnot help you on the day of judgment.
eagle says
DefenderofIslm, linnet’s remark happens to be a truthful kind description of your Muhammad. There is no slander in the truth. By any definition you choose the truth is Muhammad is a pedophile. By defending this pedophile puts you in his company of beliefs. You are not a friend of the American people as pedophiles are not welcome here. Pedophilia is against the laws of humanity. Your Satanic Quran is a complete Taqiyya. My advice to your Muslim culture will be to learn how to assimilate into the American culture by burning your Quran, give up the desire for Sharia Law and put a crucifix on the top of every mosque in America. Take catechism classes and learn the Christian way to live and God will forgive you. That means no more treating women and children like cattle and no more raping infidel women and little children, you will then become a proud infidel. Oh this too, no 71 virgins when you die. You won’t need them in heaven. This is no Taqiyya. Also, vote for Trump, Trump help you to become a good infidel.
linnte says
The Irish Republican Army was a real Army fighting for Independence from British rule. Islamic Jihadis just want to kill everyone and everybody. The IRA didn’t cause death and destruction in EVERY COUNTRY in the world. Islam wants WORLD domination and Islam will do every trick in the trick book to get Islam’s way. The IRA would have listened to negotiations if the BRITISH had been trustable and returned Ireland to her people. And the IRA has stopped its fighting because of successful negotiations between Britain and Ireland. When was the last time you heard of the IRA bombing or fighting? Islam will continue its stealth Jihad until it is eradicated. And eradicated from the WEST it WILL BE!
DefenderofIslm says
IRA was than terrorists organization found before WW1. Than they where violence Roman CAtholic than the American government considered then terrorists organization.
linnte says
Use your brains. The USA has more Irish and British people of genetic heritage than any other country. The IRA were fighting for Independence. Fact. They were a rag tag group of HUNDREDS not Millions, like Muslims whos Qur’an commands Jihad. Don’t teach me about IRA when I am Irish/ Scot/British American and I know exactly why IRA did what they did. haahahahahaha! And NOW in this day, IRA is a political party of Ireland. Today is what counts Mr Defender, and Islam calls for violence from ALL Muslims. Go back the the desert and your camel where you BELONG so the world can have peace again. No Muslims, no Qur’an is peace! Islam is more of a threat to the West than a nuclear BOMB!
Mirren10 says
”The Irish Republican Army was a real Army fighting for Independence from British rule.”
The IRA were, and are, a collection of vicious terrorist thugs. They were *not* ‘ a real army’. They were, and are, a bunch of vicious, slimy **cowards**. Pretty much like mohammedans.
linnte says
I guess that depends on who’s side one is on ? I do not condone their violence against English citizens, but I do understand their fight for Independence. The Government of Britain did their own fair share of violence too Mirren and let’s not forget England was the opressive.
Mirren10 says
”The Government of Britain did their own fair share of violence too Mirren and let’s not forget England was the oppressive (sic)”
I would suggest you read something about the history of Northern Ireland, and the UK’s obligation to it’s Protestant citizens and *their* wishes, before you start pontificating about England being the oppressor.
linnte says
We are never going to see eye to eye on this, my friend. So I will acquiesce to you.
linnte says
But I do have a joke for you- Why did the Drum Creigh chicken cross the road? Because his feathers and forefeathers crossed the road.
gravenimage says
“DefenderofIslm”–who is so illiterate that he cannot even spell “Islam” correctly–wrote:
Mostly than (sic) Christian as there (sic) over 2 billion Christian (sic) in the world.
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This is a half-expressed thought–I use the term loosely–but what “DefenderofIslm” probably means is that most violence in the world is commited by Christians, since they make up the largest single population group.
Two problems with this: this would be simple demographics if true, like saying that most crime in Asia is committed by Asians. It would not mean that Asians are particularly prone to criminality; nor that they commit their crimes in the name of “Asianess”.
But it is *not* true–even though the global population of Christians is almost twice that of Muslims, as a group they are *much less violent*. For instance, in the West Muslims are many times more likely to commit violent acts than are native Infidels.
And, as I noted with the reference to crime in Asia, motive is important. How many Christians are violent *in the name of Christianity*? Virtually none–instead, unprovoked violence by Christians is *counter* to the tenets of Christianity, and is condemned by all denominations.
But many Muslims–certainly, all Jihadists–are violent on the basis of Islam and in its name. They are waging violent Jihad on the texts and tenets of Islam, and on the model of the “Prophet”.
More:
He is Hispanics (sic) Looking.
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Here’s the police sketch of the suspect:
http://www.gannett-cdn.com/-mm-/eb5ef214c1ce8daea860edc52b39337f517c5bd0/c=21-0-1521-2000&r=537&c=0-0-534-712/local/-/media/2016/08/14/USATODAY/USATODAY/636067549927813075-AP-Imam-Shot.jpg
This *might* be sketch of a Hispanic person. But a person of “medium” complexion with a beard might *easily* be Muslim, as well. So far, virtually all of these cases where Imams have been targeted have turned out to be Muslim-on-Muslim violence.
More:
The IRA who where Christian terrorists (sic).
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Certainly, many of the IRA were Christians, and the conflict in Ireland did tend to break down along religious lines.
But the various factions of the IRA was never a specifically religious, and never acted in the name of Christianity. They did not quote the Bible to justify their actions, nor did they cite Jesus as the model for their actions. And the IRA was never a single group. The Official Irish Republican Army, for instance, was specifically *Marxist*, and many of its members identified as atheist.
Even more salient is the fact that all factions of the IRA called their final cease-fire in 1997. All the major factions have disarmed. The peace has held in Ireland.
Would that this was true of Islam, which becomes bloodier year by year.
Champ says
His moniker should read …
“DefendingTheIndefensible”
Much more accurate 🙂
Gen Jones says
True, Champ, except for the fact it’s spelled correctly. ?
Gary L Scholl says
Islam is a culture of hate and will reap what is sows.
Jake says
Standard Islam will never be welcomed in America. Sooner or later, the jihad begins and the outcome is predictable. The American ethos is completely opposed to sharia, and the people are armed and ready to defend their homeland. Every day, the awareness of Islam and its doctrines grows more widespread, and with that awareness comes a visceral disgust with Sharia and the people pushing this filth. Whether or not Trump wins, his stated view of immigration will undoubtedly prevail in the future, mainly because it just makes sense.
Carolyne says
Looking at that picture, I have actually never seen anyone that particular color. He is positively yellow. Bad photoshop job.
Donald DaCosta says
Warnings, following events such as this, advise that all wait before making unsubstantiated accusations. This is especially important when dealing with violent acts committed against Muslims who have a proven track record of the commission of crimes against Muslims to promote the egregiously false but widely accepted narrative that other religions are far more violent than Islam and Muslims are more the victim than the aggressor. No telling what will be concluded in this case but all should wait until the facts, based on an objective analysis of the evidence, are known.
But wherever the evidence leads, as much as western, politically correct sensibilities might be offended, the rampant terrorism occurring around the world remains the direct responsibility of the Islamic worlds quest for global dominance. Would that the west awake from its self imposed stupor before it’s too late.
Iftikhar Ahmad says
What do you expect from a so called civilised Yank?
gravenimage says
The nasty Iftikhar Ahmad wrote:
What do you expect from a so called civilised Yank?
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Actually, we Yanks *are* pretty civilized–as this poster would know if he were an *actual* Briton, and not a Mohammedan.
Still not at all clear that this was not another case of Muslim-on-Muslim violence.
Kathy Brown, Esq. says
Jayell: I think we Yanks do indeed ‘have our wits’ about us. And I believe we’re going to elect Trump.
How about a deal? The day after the election, I’ll meet you here. And together we can celebrate our newfound freedom!
My late husband was a Brit, Home Counties. Staines. Haven’t been back to London in many years, which is just as well, as I hear it’s ‘Londonistan’.
But when I saw you guys pull off Brexit I thought: ‘The nation which single-handedly held off the Hun, ain’t finished yet!’.
Pray for us Jayell. Your country is mine too:: https://youtu.be/Y2iLA3h_u60
linnte says
I am a Celt through and through! We will pray for each other’s success!
gravenimage says
Hear, hear!