“After talking about the misrepresentation of Mia’s death in the media as an act of terrorism on the part of an Islamic fundamentalist, the minister delivering the service suggested we include a Koranic reading, and he will find something suitable with a friend who is an Islamic scholar.”
You can see from this how effective the all-pervasive and persistent cultural indoctrination has been. Has Rosie Ayliffe read the Qur’an? Unlikely. Does she know for sure that the murder of her daughter was not “an act of terrorism on the part of an Islamic fundamentalist”? Almost certainly not. But as an enlightened citizen of the contemporary West, it has become part of her cultural landscape to believe that Muslims are victims of right-wing “Islamophobes” who “misrepresent” crimes done in the name of Islam and in accord with its teachings as…crimes done in the name of Islam and in accord with its teachings. And she has imbibed the idea that it is incumbent upon her and upon all enlightened people to make sure that no one thinks ill of Islam — to the extent that she is ready to do PR work for Islam even at the funeral of her daughter who was killed by a Muslim screaming “Allahu akbar.”
At very least, Smail Ayad screamed “Allahu akbar” as he killed Mia Ayliffe-Chung. Even if he was motivated by unrequited love, which is belied by his attacks on others, by screaming this he situated his murder within the context of Islam’s jihad against Infidels. So this Qur’an reading is tantamount to a having a reading from Mein Kampf at the funeral of a Jew murdered in the Holocaust.
We need a Rabelais, a Swift to do justice to this.
“Passage from the Koran will be read at slain British backpacker Mia Ayliffe-Chung’s funeral – who was ‘killed by a French national shouting Allahu Akbar,'” Daily Mail Australia, August 30, 2016 (thanks to Milad):
A passage from the Koran will be read out at the funeral of murdered British backpacker Mia Ayliffe-Chung.
The 21-year-old died after being stabbed to death during a frenzied knife attack at a north Queensland hostel last week that also left fellow Brit Tom Jackson dead, after a week spent in hospital in critical condition.
It’s alleged the man charged over the murder, French national Smail Ayad shouted out ‘Allahu Akbar’ as he attacked Mia but police have said they had found no evidence the crime was terror related.
The funeral is expected to take place in Ms Aycliffe’s [sic] hometown of Wirksworth in Derbyshire with close friends and family.
Conservative politicians have seized on the incident to call for a ban on Muslim immigration but Mia’s mother has appealed for people not to misrepresent her daughter’s death.
In a blog-post on the UK news website The independent, Rosie Ayliffe says she is planning to include a reading from the Koran in a multi-faith funeral for her daughter in response to media attention given to Ayad’s religion.
‘After talking about the misrepresentation of Mia’s death in the media as an act of terrorism on the part of an Islamic fundamentalist, the minister delivering the service suggested we include a Koranic reading, and he will find something suitable with a friend who is an Islamic scholar,’ she wrote….
The smart money is on Qur’an 5:32 (without 5:33). There isn’t much else to choose from.

Lynne says
This is an insult to a beautiful young woman who had her full life ahead of her. In her grief, the mother is making a terrible mistake.
Allan says
I doubt that Mia was entirely the victim which you make her out to be. The mother is a twit, and, as I learned first hand, most people on the backpacker circuit are humanists. So it’s fair to suspect that the deceased, too, refused to see Islam and Muslims as they are.
Lynne says
She certainly does not deserve to die and she is a victim. Anyone who dies at the hands of a monster is, including the brave man who came to help her. You are very cynical.
Allan says
Straw man attack. I wrote, as still you can see, that it’s fair to suspect that Mia was a conniver, i.e. a person who turned a blind eye. If so, then she was, like her mother, a perverse fool who refused to see reality as it is. Then there would be scant reason for sadness. Instead, there would be reason to feel relief, for once again we have encountered evidence that existence is not a standing conspiracy against justice.
So, no I am not being “cynical” but sober/.
Western Canadian says
Your idea of ‘sober’ seems more to be something reeking of only the cheapest booze… Most hikers I have met (and it is a BIG pastime where I live), have been Christians or other believers, who are out in the wilds to appreciate and celebrate creation… You are really full of it.
gravenimage says
Allan wrote:
I doubt that Mia was entirely the victim which you make her out to be. The mother is a twit, and, as I learned first hand, most people on the backpacker circuit are humanists…
…………………..
So you believe she deserved to be butchered by a ravening Mohammedan? *Ugh*.
No humanist deserves to be butchered by a Jihadist.
Allan says
You’re another one with an unbalanced mind, an overactive moralization module, and a predilection for making illogical leaps. You don’t know, and couldn’t know, that I believe that Mia deserved to be “butchered”. We don’t have the information we need to decide if Mia was a common multicultural fool, although we do know that the hypothesis is plausible.
Now understand that humanism is a leading culprit in the long war by immigration from the third world. Humanists are perps, see? So if you encounter one about to be stabbed or shot by a jihadist, please do not be that naïve do-gooder who prevents the weapon from doing its ironic work. There will be plenty of time afterward for you to rush in excitedly like a superhero on his first mission.
If, after you’ve rushed in, the fool is still conscious, calmly cross examine the twit until it is persuaded that it helped to bring the attack upon itself. Help the fool to see that it has no good reason to object that you didn’t risk your neck to prevent an attachment which the fool helped to bring about.
Allan says
Nannyware error corrected:. …to prevent an attack which…
gravenimage says
The appalling Allan wrote:
You’re another one with an unbalanced mind, an overactive moralization module…
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How *dare* I object to Muslims butchering us? I must have an “overactive moralization module”. This is what decent people simply refer to as a moral sense.
More:
You don’t know, and couldn’t know, that I believe that Mia deserved to be “butchered”.
……………………….
Why, because you described her as “not entirely a victim”? Because you call her as a “conniver” and a “perverse fool”? That you said there should be “scant reason for sadness” over her savage murder, but that we should indeed be *feel relief* that a Jihadist knifed her to death? And that, moreover, her brutal murder was “justice”. It also did not escape me that you put sneer quotes around the idea that she was butchered–as though it is overkill to so describe a Muslim knifing a girl to death.
More:
We don’t have the information we need to decide if Mia was a common multicultural fool, although we do know that the hypothesis is plausible.
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One that Allan is all too happy to embrace. He has plenty of speculative condemnation for the *victim*. For the actual Muslim perpetrator, note, not so much.
More:
Now understand that humanism is a leading culprit in the long war by immigration from the third world. Humanists are perps, see?
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Humanism simply sees the potential values of the individual–it is a key part of the civilized values of the West. No wonder the disgusting Allan rejects it.
More:
So if you encounter one about to be stabbed or shot by a jihadist, please do not be that naïve do-gooder who prevents the weapon from doing its ironic work. There will be plenty of time afterward for you to rush in excitedly like a superhero on his first mission.
……………………….
Yes–I *would* save any victim from being stabbed to death by a ravening Mohammedan were it in my power to do so, and would not stop to ask their views on humanism before doing so.
Allan may believe that allowing Muslims to slaughter other Kuffar will somehow make himself safer, but his is woefully mistaken. Few things will so embolden Jihadists than to find that they are unopposed by other Infidels.
Western Canadian says
The only mind here that is unbalances, is yours, alan.
Kepha says
Whatever Ms. Ayliffe-Chung’s views, and regardless of whether or not her mother is or was a “twit”, this young woman did not deserve to be murdered. Too bad it didn’t happen in Texas, where the murderer would probably face the death penalty. I take that back. If, in such a case, some death penalty state had the murderer on death row, the future Stupid Crocks of the US (SCOTUS) shaped by a Hillary Clinton Administration would end the death penalty for all crimes except calling homosexuality a sin, Islam a blasphemy, and being inconvenient to the sexually irresponsible, so we’d be stuck supporting one more creep for the rest of his natural life.
Jakob says
There needs to be a justice killing……disembowel that bastard and stake him out……
That’s right, I’m a Jew, a mean ass jew from Texas
Christianblood says
(Passage of Qur’an to be read at funeral of woman killed by Muslim screaming “Allahu akbar”).
This is really, unbelievably outrageous!
Infidela says
How is some-one who likes to travel to other countries must necessarily be humanist and pro-Islam? THAT’S THE MOST STUPID STATEMENT THAT IVE HEARD.!
Lynne says
Forgive my ignorance but what is a humanist and what makes it a bad thing?
Allan says
“necessarily”??
Would you care to explain how you arrived at that silly accusation? Please refrain from SHOUTING when you reply.
Allan says
Secular humanism is a sentimental, shape-shifting religion for thieving secular busybodies. I recommend that you read, or at least skim, the manifestos indicated below to gather an idea about its features and development. Note the open support in the first manifesto for “a socialized and cooperative economic order”. Building the “world community” (aka “transnational federal government”) and defeating dread nationalism are prominent in HM2.
There have been other manifestos, e.g. the Amsterdam Declaration 2002, but these will be enough to understand the main ideas.
Humanist Manifesto I (1933)
http://americanhumanist.org/humanism/humanist_manifesto_i
Humanist Manifesto II (1973)
http://americanhumanist.org/humanism/humanist_manifesto_ii
Humanist Manifesto III (2003)
http://americanhumanist.org/humanism/humanist_manifesto_iii
gravenimage says
This is ridiculous. The American Humanist Association is a small organization that has under 50,000 members nationwide–the idea that victims of Islam should be left to be murdered lest they belong to this group is absurd.
There are certainly points where I disagree with this group, but the idea that they *should* be slaughtered by Jihadists is appalling.
The original Humanists, incidentally, were all Christians, some of them churchmen. Some of those who contributed to the movement were refugees fleeing from the Islamic conquest of Constantinople. They championed individual rights, classical education and philosophy, and the arts during the Renaissance. The Humanities are so called after this philosophy.
The odd thing–or, perhaps, not so odd–is that those most opposed to Humanism are *Muslims*, who hate art, freedom of expression, and human rights.
Champ says
Indeed, Lynne.
Angry Aussie says
Disgraceful. Two people and a dog killed by a psychopath, and a number of other backpackers injured by the knife wielding follower of the Religion of Peace, and yet, somehow, the Muslims are still the victims.
elizabeth says
With a couple of exceptions, it is pleasing to Allah to kill all dogs.
Sibila says
And, it is pleasing to Allah to kill all disobedient wives, not to mention those who go lose posing half naked on social media straight after being ‘married’ ‘for’ a Muslim.
A couple of days ago I wanted to post here how poor stabbed Mia definitely didn’t die like a Jesus’ bride – free and unreachable – but as a Muslim ‘wife’ – chained and blamed to death for being herself. I changed my mind for the respect for the dead, but after this “multi-faith funeral for her daughter” – I wish the same funeral for her mother, for frau Merkel and for all those Western lose daughters who welcomed with their opened .. limbs all those faithful liars and girl-killers; and here could be included all those nonmenstruating lady-boys who reject being responsible patriots, reliable gentlemen, and cavaliers but who fight for advancement of ineffective and injurious .. mental illnesses.
I wouldn’t be surprised her mother cashed in her daughter’s funeral turning it into a platform for .. delusional garbage. After all, it is definitely not a surprise, not after all those .. unreserved and utmost understanding for crimes of .. mental illness.
Take a hair of the dog that bit you!
Proven remedy. Bring it on – on Western agonic who don’t know what to do with their freedom and abundance. Spread your arms wide open, and count on Koranic funeral. The rest of us will work to finance prison bills for all those mental sufferers whose unfortunate role was to be .. dogs.
OMG says
Effing allah, I’ll give you effing allah, kaboom………….reload…………alot of the comments above are really sickening. A beautiful girl was murdered by french muslim filth and they read a verse from the koran at her funeral, that’s totally screwed up and revolting.
Demsci says
Yes! But if we follow the trail how that comes about; we might see a certain thought-process;
“Hey, a Muslim killed, did an abominable act. Reaction by a so-called “fair-minded” political correct person: BUT that cannot mean ALL Muslims are bad, or even that Islam is to blame”.
BUT … we as a society like to have protection from violence. And many citizens of democratic societies like to have the full democratic system maintained, faulty as it is.
AND ….. If All Muslims cannot be held ALL “responsible” then, in the circumstances, it is equally absurd, to say that “No Muslims are responsible, for NOTHING”.
And if juxtaposed to peaceful tolerant co-existence and democratic laws at the very least a part of Islam is responsible for behavior of Muslims that is violent against innocent people and that is anti-Democratic (as is abundantly shown). And if Islam is “responsible”, then, yes, to begin with; “All adult Muslims residing in Democratic societies ARE RESPONSIBLE AS WELL, for holding on to it, without specifications.
Attempt to solution; Do hold Muslims, living as citizen in a Democratic society RESPONSIBLE for holding on to A VERY PROBLEMATIC FAITH, WITHOUT MAKING ALLOWANCE for PRIMARY commitment to public safety and democratic tenets, laws, values.
Or commitment to LEAVE the Democratic countries and go to Islamic ones otherwise.
The reason for this policy we democratic citizens might give to Muslims residing in democratic countries that just practicing Islam and be “neutral” is no longer enough. Because it is so clear by now that Islam, or parts of it, can be interpreted in 2 or more ways.
Which makes it imperative for Muslims to openly choose and support “our side”, not the side of the Islamist enemies, who, after all, have just as, or more of, a logical interpretation of Islam. As Islam is multi-interpretable, unclear, vague, obsolete, incomplete etc.
Non-choosing Muslims living in Western Democratic countries should realise they lost their trustworthyness.
Counterjihadists, like Robert Spencer, David Wood, and those forming policy for political parties, should emphasize
A. the prone-ness of Islam to be”badly interpreted” and
B. the prevalence of “bad interpretations of (parts of) Islam”.
We can experiment with this approach and see it’s “feedback”.
If this is a long process, it is because it still is so complicated and seemingly unrealistic, but what else does work? I mean in pursuit of stability, peace, longevity, happiness of the highest possible number of people (in our countries, the world)?
gretel says
Will it be one of the verses commanding death to the infidels; strike them on the neck? Or perhaps they will choose, “Kills Jews, Christians and dogs”. Something on infidel women being fair game might also fit the theme.
Sorry to be harsh, but if they are going to read the koran, they might as well do something relevant.
Janice says
It will probably be one of Mohammad’s earlier peaceful versus trying to fool people into believing
Islam is religion of peace. Those earlier peaceful versus HAVE BEEN MADE NULL & VOID, only
total war on the unbelievers are the correct ones to follow in the Koran.
Robert Spencer does an excellent job in some of his videos pointing this very fact out.
cs says
The Mum just got the Stockholm syndrome, plus cognitive dissociation. Pretty tough.
dumbledoresarmy says
Not the mum so much, as the person – called a ‘minister’, and I am assuming from some variety of Christian denomination – who will be conducting the funeral and is therefore, presumably, in some way associated with the family.
I quote – “After talking about the misrepresentation of Mia’s death in the media as an act of terrorism on the part of an Islamic fundamentalist, **the minister delivering the service suggested we include a Koranic reading, and he will find something suitable with a friend who is an Islamic scholar..**”.
See that? The idea that there should be a Koranic reading at the service was NOT proposed by the mother but by her (non-Islamic) spiritual adviser, the ‘minister’, who **should have known better**. This guy is a blind shepherd leading his flock over a cliff. And see the other thing? – he has “a friend who is an Islamic scholar”.
Thing I want to know: is that ‘Islamic scholar ‘ ‘friend’ of this dangerously foolish ‘minister’, a Muslim or merely a deluded Islamophile? Could be either, but if the former, if this ‘Islamic scholar’ ‘friend’ is a Muslim, that suggests to me that the ‘minister’ has been sucked into the whole ‘interfaith ‘ thing and has happily gulped down the flowery nonsense-and-lies fed to him by practised dawa artists, one of whom has become his ‘friend’. One may bear in mind that Smail Ayad was counted as a ‘friend’, too, by Tom Jackson, the other person whom he stabbed to death.
Sibila says
Still, it is her mother who is prostituting her daughter’s funeral.
It is HER daughter’s funeral, not minister’s.
No Fear says
I suggest she reads out the entire Quran. Then people will know how vile it is.
john spielman says
and she should read the hadiths of muhammed to see how evil muhammed and islam is
Janice says
That ideally would be be perfect, i hate how they are probably going to cherry pic.
SpiritOf1683 says
Especially Sura 9.
Infidel lives matter says
“So this Qur’an reading is tantamount to a having a reading from Mein Kampf at the funeral of a Jew murdered in the Holocaust.”
Absolutely right. Spencer nails it again.
gretel says
Good one.
Janice says
Good point! Highly accurate!
gravenimage says
So true.
NYgal says
Except, no Jew would have asked to have Mein Kampf read over the dead body of her child, while today’s volunteer dhimmis willingly sharpen the weapons of those who slaughter their children.
Frank Anderson says
I am sorry to say that some of my Jewish “acquaintances” might have tried to read Mein Kampf just to placate the “powers that be”. There is a MAJOR difference between Mein Kampf and the Koran. Mein Kampf is clear and direct all the way trough the book-Where would any passages appear to hide the violent intent?. The Koran is schizophrenic, showing 2 distinct and contradictory faces to mislead us infidels. A lot of people fall for the lies because they don’t want to face the truth.
Before WWII Germany had about 500 to 600 thousand Jews in a population of about 60 Million. About half of them understood the necessity to get out while they could. Some did not go far enough and were collected and killed anyway. But the other half were too stubborn, dense, or wishful to pay attention to the clear message in Mein Kampf in addition to the violence that went on daily against Jews for 6 years before the start of the war. I am blessed with many Jewish friends who understand what is at stake now, and who recognize there is a new denial of an impending Holocaust in progress. Approximately 75 percent of Jews in the US vote Democrat. The other 25 percent know what is included in the Democrat/Socialist/Internationalist party and strongly oppose it. They are not alone.
Sibila says
Spencer missed the fact that the killer went mad – only couple of days after he was showing off around in the camp talking about his love for Mia who “is his wife whom he married”. Those who know Islam know what that means: he got her, and what is in his head is only what counts, and not what was in hers then.
Angemon says
Who died and made her defender of islam? Disgusting virtue-signalling.
Mirren10 says
”Who died and made her defender of islam?”
Her daughter. How utterly *vile*, that this *stupid* woman would defend the religion which murdered her.
Anne Smith says
Suggest they read Hadith 34 for a start.
LR says
And where are mom’s friends? Are they out to lunch too?
Really? Does mom really not know how many times throughout the ages, and in these last few decades Jihadi’s around the world have yelled ‘Alahu Akbar’ before slaughtering someone, or many?
Mom might as well go for it, and invite another Jihadist to the funeral. How about someone who just recently came back from fighting with ISIL?
The next time some terrorist Christian stabs an innocent young Islamic woman to death yelling ‘Jesus Saves’, I’m sure the parent would want the Imam performing the funeral to include a verse from the Gospels…
Oh, never mind. (As others sometimes state on here).
Lucretius says
They’re saturated in the religion of “I must not be thought a bigot, and so I must not think any serious differences between religions exist or are even possible. The fear of being thought a bigot is the beginning of wisdom. That is Moses and all the prophets!”
Lucretius says
They’re saturated in the religion of “I must not be thought a bigot, and so I must not even entertain the thought that any serious differences between religions exist or are even possible. The fear of being thought a bigot is the beginning of wisdom. That is the liberals’ Moses and all the prophets!”
Red Blues says
Obviously, the mother does not want to offend any practicing believers. You know, those who would attend to celebrate (the end of) her daughter’s life. [/end sarcasm].
If reported on 30 years ago, these stories would have been fit for National Lampoon or Mad Magazine, they are so “out there” as to be almost fictional in scope.
The saddest part is that people like the mother are NOT rare nowadays and are quite sincere in their mistaken belief that they will be able to placate a bloodthirsty cadre who would gladly show up at the funeral to cause even more deaths if given the opportunity.
It is a vile cancer of all civilized people. Those who have had to deal with the issue over the centuries have been near unanimous in their condemnation of both the ‘religion’ of Islam and the Muslims who follow its teachings.
vicki says
My mom always told me to react to a tormentor by killing them with kindness. Is this even possible with Islamist? Is that the mindset of so many?
Kay says
The demons are dancing now.
ECAW says
“the minister delivering the service suggested we include a Koranic reading, and he will find something suitable with a friend who is an Islamic scholar”
Something from sura 9 should do nicely.
gravenimage says
Exactly.
Kepha says
What kind of minister? Zen Anglican? How ‘Seventies!
Carolyne says
The ex-Archbishop of Canterbury, Rowan Williams, once said that Sharia law is inevitable in England. Several years ago, while he was still the Archbishop, I attended a Christmas service at Canterbury Cathedral where he officiated. After the service he walked up and down the aisles, preening like a peacock with his strange up-turned beard. I asked myself, “What has become of the Church of England?” Now I know.
Frank Anderson says
I believe one of the major common points appearing in many of the books I have read on Islam, including Spencer’s Pol Inc Gd to Islam, and Mark Gabriel’s Unfinished Battle, is that there are 2 distinct “trains of thought” in the Koran, one peaceful and one hideously violent, and that the latter and extremely violent overrides in authority of the earlier “peaceful” statements. Idiots who do not understand the scizophrenia (dual personality) at play, will seize on the earlier statements and never reach the real violence in the latter, which govern Islam today. “Islam is a religion of peace,” was and is a lie every time it is spoken. Muslims have a duty to lie to infidels whenever advantage can be obtained, just like the Nazi’s told the Jews they were going into a shower when they were forced into the gas chambers so they wouldn’t riot. It is happening again.
We can read the Bible, if we take any passage by itself, any way we wish. Only by not just reading the whole Book, but by understanding the circumstances and sources of authorship and transmission to the present can we obtain a better idea of what we should take as the meaning.
The Koran does not permit this analysis because it would allow reform and re-interpretation. The Koran, to Muslims, is required to be the final, perfect, unchangeable word of nothing less than God. Any attempt at better, more civilzed, understanding of its meaning is blasphemy and apostasy, punishable by death.
Those who seize on the out-of-date and overruled peaceful portions neglecting the later portions that contradict them, are complicit in the lie, ignorant or suicidal. The problem is they are “lulling” those who will not make the effort to obtain their own knowledge and understanding into a completely false and totally unjustified sense of security. Believe it or not if this funeral were written and mailed through the United States Post Office, I could imagine a criminal prosecution for mail fraud, 18 U.S.C. 1341, United States v. Snowden, 770 F.2d 393 (4th Cir. 1985), cert den, 474 U.S. 1011. Free speech does not include any right to false speech, quite like it is illegal to yell, “Fire” in a crowded theater when there is no fire. Here those who lie to us yell the ritual “islamophobia” instead of fire to prevent some from further inquiry.
Terry Gain says
Thank you for such an enlightened comment.
jeremysteering@gmail.com says
Superb, brilliantly crafted analysis of the biggest threat to the civilised world since the Nazis.
Frank Anderson says
I humbly appreciate the compliment. I went to a military school from grades 1 to 12. For some reason I was always seated near the military history books in library study halls, and read many of them. I could see in the 1960’s that the day could come where lessons learned by the Germans in WWII could become useful. I believe I was correct. A few years ago, with thanks to another person who is aware of the Islamic promise to infidels I started started reading books on that general subject. I read a lot of books from a spectrum of authors to be reasonably assured of a sufficiently accurate picture. This is a good time to rely on as much first-hand information and less on random comments to make decisions of what should be done in the IMMEDIATE future. Not only is our way of life in danger, our very lives, the lives of our friends and family, and the future is in grave danger. Many people were aware of the impending danger before WWII, and were unwilling or unable to do anything except suffer the consequences.
Matt Proctor says
hitlers big mistake was not having the SS blackface their members for the duration of the war, then all the holocaust would have been forgotten and passed off as a big misunderstanding
vlparker says
RIP, Mia.
Unrequited love, mental illness, anything but the truth.
http://newenglishreview.org/blog_direct_link.cfm/blog_id/64966/In-the-Australian-Financial-Review-Rowan-Dean-Satirist-Discusses-A-Mysterious-Mental-Illness-That-Appears-Now-to-Be-Pandemic
ECAW says
I keep waiting for some bereaved parent to tell the truth at the funeral but the fact that it doesn’t happen shows just how deeply ignorant the population are.
But the minister (presumably Christian) who suggested this travesty, like a funeral director suggesting a nice variety of flowers, is culpable. It should be obvious that Islam and Christianity are not only incompatible but that Allah hates Christians for commiting the worst of all sins, shirk, associating others with him.
Catholics are out in front in this, thanks to the lunatic Pope Francis, but the CofE isn’t far behind. As an experiment I once sent a couple of relevant links to 20 priests and 20 vicars, inviting them to discussion. I received just one invitation to chat about it over a cup of tea.
Paul N Silas says
Pretty young woman, what a tragic loss to Evil.
Jaladhi says
Disgusting!! Reading the passages from the hate and murder manual of Islam is totally disrespectful the memory of this innocent young girl! May we ask why this disgusting act was suggested by the Christian cleric? He has lost his ways – better leave his ministry and join Muslims in a mosque!
Mo says
Wait, the family of the victim wants this to be done? Am I reading this right?!
You know what? I’m done having sympathy for these ignorant fools. Done.
You love this death cult so much even when it’s responsible for the murder of your own child? HAVE AT IT, THEN. Enjoy it!
I am DONE!
Allan says
Koran 9:126-127 mocks the mother and the minister:
Michael Laudahn says
I’m not really familiar with Facebook, but I happened to see that she has an account there at https://www.facebook.com/rosie.ayliffe . And it seems to be possible to send her messages without being specifically authorised (like I said, I have almost no experience with Facebook practices). So I took myself the liberty to send her this article, wrapped in hopefully appropriate words, so she might accept it.
ECAW says
How appallingly cruel of you. The vicar yes, but I cannot imagine how anyone would think it a good idea to add to her pain.
Michael Laudahn says
My conscience wasn’t quite pure either. But like I said, I packed it into sympathetic words which might make it acceptable. But true, maybe I should have waited a little longer. Or tried harder to find someone else in her proximity.
Frank Anderson says
It is a sad fact of life and particularly my experience that some lessons come at what is at the moment a very painful time. But, that lesson, if heeded becomes a “real teachable moment” that continues to guide to better and more informed decisions. Is there any time when if feels good for us to realize that we have made a major error? From my experience there is not. But I would rather see the error and be able to prevent another than to wander on in ignorance and stupidity repeating an error.
Michael Copeland says
“… right there in black and white, absolute encouragement – no, a divine instruction – to act atrociously towards the rest of the world. Page after page of it. Sex slaves, the lot. The thing is horrific. … and if you ask my opinion, the thing should be banned for inciting racial and religious hatred on almost every page.”
Tommy Robinson, in “Enemy of the State”.
“When I have time, I must put it into German so that every man may see what a foul and shameful book it is.”
Martin Luther
See “Book Reviews: The Koran” at Liberty GB
http://www.libertygb.org.uk/news/book-reviews-koran
Arthur says
Love the Luther quote. I would like to see how the Lutheran ministers explain that away. Are they more “enlightened” than Martin Luther?
Kepha says
My guess is that there are plenty of Lutheran ministers of the Missouri Synod and Wisconsin Synod variety who have no problem at all with the Luther quote.
I am Reformed rather than Lutheran, but I know that biblically literate Christians of most vrieties generally recognize the Qur’an as blasphemy.
Jay Boo says
THE MUSLIM STARE
Good evening Muslim world.
Who are you?
(Truly)
When Muslims pray, who are they talking to?
Are they full of humility or is it instead, merely fear?
Do they pray with sincerity from their heart or recite incantations.
Does pious praying entitle Muslims to glare with an indignant stare?
Look me in the eyes Muslim are stare your evil Muslim stare.
I know who you are.
I know what you have become Muslims, do you?
The disgrace of Muhammad is there.
Look in the mirror for the answer.
That is why Muslims kill.
Peter says
Wonder if the delusional minister has considered verse 9:5 of the Qur’an:
“slay the idolaters wheresoever you find them,” including hostels.
quota raven says
Peter – That’s the verse that occurred to me immediately, but I doubt it’s the one the pc minister chose.
Cheers!
quota raven
Paul says
“Conservative politicians have seized on the incident to call for a ban on Muslim
immigration….”. Yes, so what?
“…..but Mia’s mother has appealed for people not to misrepresent her daughter’s
death.” No need to “misrepresent” it when a pathologically altruistic virtue
signalling dhimmi like you are already doing such a fine job of things.
Give me strength!
Guest says
Her daughter is dead and she doesn’t demand justice? And she has the nerve to call herself a mother?
Paul says
Safe to say, if she’s still committed to cowardice and stupidity
at this stage then she always will be. She’s a lost cause.
Guest says
If I get killed by a Muslim and someone tries to read the Quoran, I will raise from my coffin and strangle him.
Kepha says
WHat’s grosss ignorance? 144 liberal clergy in a room.
Carlos Danger says
“Stupid” eventually self-corrects because it is too feeble to stand without support over the long haul. In the interval we will be in for some heavy weather.
Carolyne says
Well, Carlos, I love your name. Where have I seen it before?
gravenimage says
I’m sure “Carlos Danger” is using his moniker tongue-in-cheek, Carolyn. “Carlos Danger” was the alter-ego Anthony Weiner’s used for sexting.
quota raven says
To Gravenimage, who sez ““Carlos Danger” was the alter-ego Anthony Weiner’s used for sexting.”
Girlfriend, the sheer expanse of your knowledge is dizzying, breathtaking! I thought Carlos was some South American drug lord who operated somewhere in the middle east! LOL. Thanks for the grins.
Cheers!
quota raven
quota raven says
Further to previous to Gravenimage –
Oh, and thanks for the information, as I certainly had it wrong!))) Cheers, qr
gravenimage says
Hi Quota!
By the way, I don’t think you had it wrong at all–I think that “South American drug lord who operated somewhere in the middle east” was *exactly* the image the silly Anthony Weiner was going for–basically some sort of Hollywood version of Carlos the Jackal. Carlos the Jackal has been described as a “charming playboy” as well as a drug runner, gun runner, and international terrorist.
As I said, I think our own “Carlos Danger” is just having fun with the whole thing.
quota raven says
To Gravenimage – who sez “…South American drug lord who operated somewhere in the middle east” was *exactly* the image the silly Anthony Weiner was going for–basically some sort of Hollywood version of Carlos the Jackal.”
See that there? She’s not only got a vast RANGE of knowledge, but she knows astonishingly accurate details, too! Yes, that’s right: I was thinking of Carlos the Jackal!
I’m utterly disabled by LOL at the merest thought of Carlos/Anthony and have been since his earliest peepee photo proffer. What a total horse’s petootie!
Thanks for the further intelligence on this matter and for even more grins about one of the silliest politicians I’ve laughed at in my lifetime. You shine, Graven!
Cheers!
quota raven
gravenimage says
🙂
WTF says
Makes you want to THROW UP!!!!!
So so wrong….speechless
Champ says
In a blog-post on the UK news website The independent, Rosie Ayliffe says she is planning to include a reading from the Koran in a multi-faith funeral for her daughter in response to media attention given to Ayad’s religion.
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Well, at least no one can call her an “islamophobe”, right?
Instead Rosie has chosen to be a backstabbing coward who’s allowing the enemy (islam) to dance on her daughter’s grave …
Mirren10 says
Exactly.
SpiritOf1683 says
30,000-plus terrorist atrocitires since 9/11 and still she doesn’t get it. Had London been incinerated by a jihadi nuke, millions of people in Britain still wouldn’t get it. The usual platitudes and teddy bears would come out, even as we had to bury the dead in vast pits for the first time since the Great Plague of London in 1665.
Luke says
Islamic terrorism working in most unexpected ways. Muhammad would have been amazed and delighted I’m sure.
gravenimage says
Passage of Qur’an to be read at funeral of woman killed by Muslim screaming “Allahu akbar”
……………………..
How sick *is this*? That Mia will have passages from the very creed that was used to justify her murder read at her funeral?
Perverse beyond belief…
As for the Sura used, how about these:
Quran (33:50) – “O Prophet! We have made lawful to thee thy wives to whom thou hast paid their dowers; and those (slaves) whom thy right hand possesses out of the prisoners of war whom Allah has assigned to thee”
Quran (8:69) – “But (now) enjoy what ye took in war, lawful and good”
These sanction her being used as a sex slave by her Muslim murderer–assuming the speculation about his being enraged that she rejected his advances is accurate.
Or, perhaps, go straight to the verses of slaughter:
Quran (3:151) – “Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers, for that they joined companions with Allah, for which He had sent no authority”.
Quran (9:5) – “So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captive and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush
This is certainly what Smail Ayad did to poor Mia Ayliffe-Chung.
Peggy says
Even if that was the truth and it had nothing to do with Islam why on earth would a Koran be even brought to the funeral?
She wasn’t Muslim so why read from that evil book? Why not read from a Buddhist or Hindu book as well?
A Muslim killed her (regardless of the motive) and she includes HIS religion as part of the ceremony.
Is she trying to condemn her daughter to Hell? What does she think the Koran will do for her?
What a despicable creature the mother is.
Buzz says
If the parents “okay” this BS of a reading from the Black Book,then shame on them. islam is a disease that is growing on the Western World, or the Western World Cowards, death to islam,in any form . !!!!
bostongal912 says
If this was my daughter they would be reading the Quran over my dead body!
UNCLE VLADDI says
If this was my daughter they would be reading the Qur’an over HIS dead body!
😉
Cecilia Ellis says
?
SoliDeoGloria says
This mother is talks and behaves as a wilful ignorant moron; in my view she is insulting the memory of her young daughter.
Don’t get me started on “the minister”…
UNCLE VLADDI says
This disgusting creature is disgracing her own daughter’s memory, and her attitudes are probably why the muslim was allowed to get so close to her daughter in the first place.
R Hemi says
There are no peaceful verses (Not One) in the false Quran towards Non Believers – the Murderer shouted “Allah Akbar” citing Islam to slay an unbeliever, he will be held accountable for his heinous crime!
Islam, Muhammad, Muslim and Mecca can be ripped apart so easily proving they don’t have historical roots that fit together…do your own research with the following!
: Why did it take 60 years after the death of Muhammad for the word “Muhammad” & “Islam” to first appear throughout the Middle East? (690 AD on Dome of Rock)
: Why did it take 60 years after the death of Muhammad for the first coin to have inscriptions of “Islam”?
: Why was there not one reference of “Mecca” anywhere recorded in the 7th century?
: Why is there not one reference of “Mecca” as an important “Trade Route” in the 7th century?
: Why did the first “Map of Mecca” only appear in the 9th century?
: Why was the first Quran only completed in the 8th century?
: Why is there no complete manuscript at all from the 7th century? and only appear in the 8th century?
: Why did it take 200 years after Muhammad’s death for all “Mosques” to point to “Mecca” (Qibla)
One has to ask why such a powerful Arabian empire that dominated Alexandria, Damascus, Baghdad, Constantinople and Jerusalem have such flaws and discrepancies as above?
: Why does the Quran have no complete stories, only in Sura 12, about Joseph (Jewish), stories dont begin, stories don’t end. No transitional phrase from story to story?
:Why does the Quran use 70% of borrowed writings from Jewish writings and Christian sectarians?
: Abdul Malik takes and creates an Identity for Arabs.
: Abdul Malik names who the prophet will be.
: Abdul Malik creates the first Quran in the 8th century.
: Abdul Malik Introduces the name Muslim.
: Abdul Malik Introduces the name Islam.
: It all begins with Abdul Malik in the 8th century.
: The Quran was created 250 years after Muhammad’s death
BC says
This woman is a bit odd, she is writing a daily series of articles in the Independent (UK) to help her deal with her grieving.She is giving a very dertailed account of the funeral plans. How many people deal with their grief by writing columns in newspapers?
ECAW says
Yes, I thought Champ’s comment on the Independent blog was harsh…until I read it.
She seems not to be just a sap misled by her minister but a full-on Guardianista type (the Independent is even more Guardian than the Guardian) and she gives me the impression of using it as a literary exercise with a bit of virtue-signalling thrown in. For instance she dismisses the suggestion that Islamic terrorism was involved because the killer never went to a mosque but doesn’t mention what he was screaming when he murdered her daughter.
Frank Anderson says
My comment is speculation at the moment. Time will tell the truth. Consider the propaganda that followed in Nazi Germany with the assassinations of the German diplomat in Paris, that led to Krystall Nacht, the assassination of the Nazi leader in Switzerland, and the assassination of Reinhard Heydrich, “The Perfect Nazi” in Czechoslovakia. That propaganda was intended to spark outrage and promote mob violence. The German army killed about 5,000 people in Czechoslovakia after Heydrich’s killing, acting as a heavily armed mob in uniform.
With the low value of women and children in Islam, evidenced by their frequent use as suicide bombers, the human sacrifice of such a “trivial” person as the daughter to stir conflict is a possibility worth considering. What’s 1 more “useless woman” when about 300 million people have been killed by Muslims in 1400 years?
“The first step to dealing with ANY problem is to recognize, acknowledge and accept that a problem exists.” The promotion of indecision is part of the teaching of lying to infidels to obtain advantage. While we are “agonizing” over a distraction of an alleged heartbroken mother determined to appease killers, the killing continues. Either the mother is blind, deaf and dumb, or she is part of the process to cover up the truth. In either event, what can we do to make our situation clearer and better? She is not our problem: The people she deceives are.
gravenimage says
BC and ECAW, here is the first of the articles in the Independent:
“A journey in grief: my daughter Mia, killed in a hostel 10,000 miles from home”
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/mia-ayliffe-chung-mother-queensland-stabbing-backpacker-a7213821.html
It contains these insane passages:
“Here, in her own words, she talks about grief, how she is coming to terms with her loss, and the ‘nonsense’ that has been written about Mia’s death and attempts to link it to Islam…
“Much nonsense is being spoken in the press about her alleged killer. The TV engineer who visited yesterday said, ‘Well we know what that was about, it was that Moslemic terrorism!’. Thanks for clarifying.
Smail Ayad – the French man being held on suspicion of my daughter’s murder – is not an Islamic fundamentalist, he has never set foot in a mosque…”
How the hell would she know that her daughter’s killer “never set foot in a Mosque”? She has never met the killer, and she notes that the murder took place 10,000 miles away.
Her sneering at the supposed words of the TV repairman who mentioned Islamic terrorism are quite disturbing, as well.
In reality, The Daily Mail notes that Smail Ayad had been threatening to mass-murder backpackers for weeks, making it clear that that his murdering Mia was not just a nasty case of unrequited love:
“Man accused of killing British woman had ‘threatened to massacre backpackers in Queensland hostel for weeks’ before Mia Ayliffe-Chung was stabbed to death”
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3760930/Man-accused-killing-British-woman-threatened-massacre-backpackers-Queensland-hostel-weeks-Mia-Ayliffe-Chung-stabbed-death.html
The other guests at the hostel “thought he was joking”, but did “give him more space”. If they had taken the threats seriously and notified police, then Mia, Tom Jackson–the man who tried to come to her aid–and the dog might be alive today.
One of the farm owners said this:
“He had been telling them he was going to massacre them all but they thought it was him being light-hearted.
“They didn’t take it seriously because he was such a nice kid, he was always smiling.”
Yeah–threatening mass-murder is always “light-hearted”…sarc/off
If you hear a Mohammedan “joking” about slaughter, *always* take it seriously.
BC says
Sorry for the typos
This woman is a bit odd, she is writing a daily series of articles in the Independent (UK) to help her deal with her grieving.She is giving a very detailed account of the funeral plans. She seems to be one of those Multiculturalists who believes all cultures are equal and that every faith even obscure ones have to be represented. How many people deal with their grief by writing columns in newspapers?
Mirren10 says
” … the minister delivering the service suggested we include a Koranic reading, and he will find something suitable with a friend who is an Islamic scholar.”
The ‘minister’ and his islamic scholar ‘friend’ should be investigated. Whitewashing islam should be a felony.
As for this ‘mother’, she is beyond words *cretinous*.
Jericko_One says
My Mother warned me from Muhammadans Years before 9/11 she sayed,never trust them or take them as friends or to your Home.My Mother was from Serbia and there we know Muhammadans very well.Specially Christians and Jews know them since 1400 Years….
Eirene says
I saw this mother tonight on the TV News here in Australia (31/08). She had a vacant
look – almost disassociated – and spoke in a strange monotone. Her facial expression
was Botox like. The impression was the brainwash was complete. As for media misrepresentation . . . . .! If this was my murdered daughter I would be saying “Pass me the knife, gun or whatever weapon is to hand. . .” Even the so called minister would not be safe. Motherly love ain’t what it used to be!
Vicky says
Progressives are perpetual idiots, doomed to drown in their own stupidity. They don’t have Christ so it’s with this false religion of Islam’s death cult, the religion that demanded their own daughter’s slaying, that they pervert her last farewell.
gravenimage says
It does sound as though she is Christian–she has a minister. Unfortunately, all too many Christians these days are as mired in “political correctness” and willful cluelessness as are so many others in the West.
vcragain says
This is all so silly and just what people trying to be ‘civil’ to everyone will do when
confronted with evil – they believe if you are nice enough the evil ones will realize the better way and change their ways. Hence there is no fight for survival, it takes much more evil for them to finally realize they DO have to fight for their beliefs eventually !! I used to be that generous loving Liberal in all things too, until I actually became convinced that there was a religious group that believed it should kill others to achieve it’s own dominance, no other religion but the cult of Islam has such a belief, altho if you say that you will get responses telling you all about the Christians who went out pillaging & plundering in ages past !. But it is Islam we have to worry about, and I now agree with my Conservative right-wing friends on this subject – we HAVE to be aware of the intent of this group’s extremists & acknowledge the danger or we are doomed. Listen to the opinion of an Iranian ex-Muslim who knows exactly what this cult’s leadership really intends :
“https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2m338cRXRM”
Carolyne says
I think you are right about the motive of Westerners who try to pander to Muslims. They think that if they are nice to Muslims, they won’t be hurt. I think they will be hurt even more because the Muslims consider them to be weak. We must resist this evil.
OMG says
I’m sure everyone will agree with my statement, “It’s OK to murder someone in cold blood, but please don’t offend Islam”, plain and simple, is this what the western world has become, may God truly help mankind out of this pit of darkness.
Michael Johnson says
That’s insulting to her and the family seeing it was Muslims that killed her
Frank Anderson says
Please consider: It was only 1 Muslim who did the killing. But, he was doing exactly what is authorized in the teaching followed by all 1.5 +/- Billion others. If one is a Muslim all of the teachings are part of the commitment. There is no “pick and choose”. To be a Muslim, whether conquering by a knife or by demography, conquest is a permanent and required goal.
Philip says
What part are they going to read, Quran 9:14,29? 3:56? 8:12?
What a cruel joke…
Glen says
I pity this pathetic woman, the best thing she could do is go and find a high bridge and throw herself off, it would give her daughter’s death a modicum of dignity after her pathetic koran stunt and rid the rest of us of a moralistic, righteous and superior twat the type of which are dragging the world to disaster.
No doubt she’ll light a candle and sing songs of love and harmony, oh what a lovely world we really live in, let’s hug a muzzer and show how lovely they really are. What a pathetic state of affairs. If it was my child I would have one message…destroy nazislam.
Aussie Infidel says
Allan, You are too ready to tar all Humanists with an ‘evil brush’. Having been involved with the Atheist/Humanist movement for over 50 years, I can assure you that we are not all the ‘unbalanced twits’ you claim. You seem to imagine that a person can only be ‘good’ by having a supernatural view of the world, and believing in gods and miracles.
Essentially, Humanists are atheists who simply believe that we can live ethical lives without believing in supernatural beings, divine revelations and other mystical entities. Are you aware that Humanists helped to draft the Universal Declaration of Human Rights? – a moral covenant you would do well to practise.
Many religious people also ‘turn a blind eye’ to jihadist atrocities, and are apologists for the ‘religion of peace’ – and most likely for the same reason. They simply haven’t read the Qur’an or any of the other Islamic scriptures or their Sharia Law. Many people on both sides of the fence, have been deceived by Muslim propaganda or ‘Taqiyya’. The three main problems for many Westerners are apathy, ignorance, and the propensity to believe in whatever irrational nonsense that takes their fancy. But many atheists and Humanists have had extensive involvement with Muslims and understand only too well that Islam is a criminal ideology which has no place in a civilised society.
It would seem that the ‘Frenchman’ involved in this incident in Home Hill (a town I know very well), is a Muslim who decided to hit the backpacker trail. His young victim might well have been foolish, but probably we’ll never know that now. Whatever her shortcomings, she certainly didn’t deserve to die at the hands of some psychopathic jihadist.
You continue a tirade against Humanists, claiming they deserve to be killed! If that is what you truly believe, then there is no difference between you and the jihadist who murdered this young lady. Where is your Christian compassion for others and condemnation of the perpetrator?
Might I suggest that appropriate passages from the Islamic scriptures to be quoted at the funeral, would be:
“Fighting [jihad] has been enjoined upon you while it is hateful to you. But perhaps you hate a thing and it is good for you; and perhaps you love a thing and it is bad for you. And Allah Knows, while you know not.” (Quran 2:216).
“O Prophet, fight against the disbelievers and the hypocrites and be harsh upon them. And their refuge is Hell, and wretched is the destination.” (Quran 9:73).
“When Allah’s Apostle fought or raided people we raised our voices saying, ‘Allahu-Akbar! Allahu-Akbar! None has the right to be worshipped but Allah’.” (Bukhari 5:59:516). The war-cry of the jihadists goes right back to Muhammad himself; and all devout Muslims desperately try to emulate his deeds.
And for good measure:
“Once Gabriel promised the Prophet (that he would visit him, but Gabriel did not come) and later on he said, ‘We, angels, do not enter a house which contains a picture or a dog.’” (Bukhari 4.54.50).
These verses pretty well summarise the Islamic agenda – even to the dislike of dogs. But no doubt, the mother’s Islamic scholar friend will have other ideas.
gravenimage says
Good post, Aussie Infidel.