The article below discusses “Why We Hate you and Want to Fight You” from the ever untruthful, untrustworthy and unreliable Islamic State brutes, who delivered a message to the West in hopes that Westerners will actually take them at their word. Leftists actually do, and herein lies (no pun intended) the problem.
The six reasons specified by the Islamic State are a dangerous blend of truth and lies. The Islamic State says first that it hates us because we are disbelievers; in other words, it’s all about Islam, despite what our leaders claim. And yes, they hate (and want to kill) gays and “corrupted” Westerners, but if their stalwarts commit the very same act of homosexuality, as did the Bastille Day jihad killer Mohamed Lahouaiej Bouhlel and supposedly also the Pulse Nightclub murderer Omar Mateen (although those claims have been discredited), then all will be forgiven when the jihadi sacrifices the blood of infidels in an act(s) of martyrdom.
Also, the Islamic State does not hate the West because of anything Westerners have done in the past, as leftists claim. They just plain hate infidels, apostates and freedom-loving states that resist the Sharia. In fact, this the most important reason provided by the Islamic State document on why they hate the West:
“Even if you were to stop bombing us, imprisoning us, torturing us, vilifying us, and usurping our lands, we would continue to hate you because our primary reason for hating you will not cease to exist until you embrace Islam.”
This is the reason why all Islamic supremacists hate the West (and Israel). There is moreover, a problem in how the Islamic State’s article itself may be interpreted, as it implies that the Islamic state is an aberration in its acrimonious hatred of the West; the near-ubiquitous hatred among Muslims against the West is thus once again concealed.
In a photo caption accompanying its story on the Islamic State’s article, the Mirror says: “The jihadis have developed a twisted interpretation of the Islamic holy book.” This is outright wrong: the jihadis follow a non-negotiable, literal interpretation of the Qur’an, Hadith and Sunnah, in contradiction of the declaration by Pope Francis (as Jihad Watch reported today) that “it’s not fair to identify Islam with violence. It’s not fair and it’s not true.”
Recall that only weeks before the Pulse massacre in Orlando, Islamic scholar Imam Farrokh Sekaleshfar preached at a mainstream Orlando mosque about killing gays in the name of Islam as a dutiful act of love, stating that “Islam has to protect the souls. Killing the souls of people is much worse than killing the physical sides of people…In Islamic society, where people want the law of Islam to rule, we have to execute it.” This preacher is not isolated, and neither is the Islamic State in its hatred against homosexuals, which is rooted in Islamic doctrine and found in prominent and authoritative manuals of Islamic jurisprudence.
Their hatred does not stop with gays, although it may be more intense against them. In normative Islam, hatred of unbelievers is so deeply entrenched that the West cannot fathom it; hence Westerners cling to the drivel that such hatred could only have somehow been provoked. The Islamic State cites past Western sins as another reason for its hate, and Islamic supremacists – both violent and stealth – frequently do the same. They routinely preach that it is the West (specifically Europeans and Jews) that has so victimized Muslims in “their” own lands, that not only were scars left, but also a just cause created for Muslim hatred. But the violent jihad conquests of the seventh century, destroying the Christian culture of North Africa and the Middle East, took place long before colonialism; and although the Crusades drew the sword against innocents, they also stopped the Islamic marauders from completely conquering Europe and Christianity itself.
The hatred that jihadis have for unbelievers has nothing to do with anything Westerners have done. Islamic supremacists meditate on prayers of hate and messages of hate. Even Muslim men have been “counseled” that it is right to hate their non-Muslim wives and treat them as meat, as the prominent Muslim preacher Dr. Yassir Burhami has stated:
“Whoever rapes a woman, does he necessarily love her? Or is he just sleeping with her?….This is why he’s discouraged from marrying among the People of the Book—because she has no [real] religion. He is ordered to make her hate her religion while continuing marriage/sexual relations with her.”
In their arrogance, Westerners continue to deny the cause of Muslim hatred against them. They fool themselves into believing propagandists who claim that hatred must be rooted to past wrongs. Yet top Islamic jurists including Ibn Taymiyya and Ibn Qayyim saw the building of churches as being “worse than building bars and brothels, for those [churches] symbolize infidelity, whereas these [bars and brothels] represent immorality.” Such thinking was and is still rooted in obedience to the words: “Surely the vilest of animals in Allah’s sight are those who disbelieve” (Qur’an 8:55).
The grim truth is that Islamic hatred against the West is not exclusive to the Islamic State, al Qaeda or any overt faction of jihad by the sword. Indeed the Islamic State jihadis who embrace such doctrines represent the most violent form of political Islam, but the ideology they follow is ingrained in normative Islam, so that even those Muslims who reject such teachings of conquest and hate, and who hope to see the practice of Islam reformed, are deemed apostates by their own.
It behooves blind Western men and women to claim that the Islamic State and al Qaeda are aberrations of Islam in sustaining the structure of political correctness and a convenient false hope. No one wants to hear of war, but the West is at war, whether we choose to believe it or not. It is at war with the forces of political Islam that rule the Middle East and countries in Africa and Asia, and that seek global conquest.
The legendary scholar Bernard Lewis once hoped that Muslims in the West could become “beacons of enlightenment,” projecting light back to their old counties, but the opposite happened, and continues to happen. As the Iranian-born writer Amir Taheri states: “Instead of exporting ‘light’ back to the Muslim world, a growing number of Muslims in Western democracies have become importers of darkness in their new abodes.”
“‘Why we hate you’: ISIS reveal 6 reasons why they despise Westerners in jihadi magazine,” by Jon Dean, UK Mirror, August 1, 2016:
An ISIS propaganda rag has revealed the top six reasons why they despise the rest of the free world.
In an article entitled ‘Why We Hate you and Want to Fight You’, the 15th edition of the terrorists’ periodical Dabiq spells out why the jihads are hell bent on destroying the West.
Warped jihadis around the globe have killed hundreds in terror attacks within the past month.
Atrocities in Nice, Normandy, Ansbach and Wurzburg are just a few of the recent massacres carried out by the twisted killers.
The poisonous ‘listicle-style’ feature opens by glorifying Omar Mateen’s murderous rampage at Pulse gay nightclub in Orlando .
It begins: “Shortly following the blessed attack on a sodomite, Crusader nightclub by the mujahid Omar Mateen, American politicians were quick to jump into the spotlight and denounce the shooting, declaring it a hate crime, an act of terrorism, and an act of senseless violence.
“A hate crime? Yes. Muslims undoubtedly hate liberalist sodomites, as does anyone else with any shred of their fitrah (inborn human nature) still intact.
An act of terrorism? Most definitely. Muslims have been commanded to terrorize the disbelieving enemies of Allah.”
The writer then goes on to list the top six reasons why the killers want to destroy the West – although they appear to be two points made several times.
1. Because you are disbelievers
“We hate you, first and foremost, because you are disbelievers; you reject the oneness of Allah – whether you realize it or not – by making partners for Him in worship, you blaspheme against Him, claiming that He has a son, you fabricate lies against His prophets and messengers, and you indulge in all manner of devilish practices.”2 . Because you are liberal
“We hate you because your secular, liberal societies permit the very things that Allah has prohibited while banning many of the things He has permitted, a matter that doesn’t concern you because you Christian disbelief and paganism 32 separate between religion and state, thereby granting supreme authority to your whims and desires via the legislators you vote into power.”3. Because some of you are atheist
“In the case of the atheist fringe, we hate you and wage war against you because you disbelieve in the existence of your Lord and Creator.”4. For your crimes against Islam
“We hate you for your crimes against Islam and wage war against you to punish you for your transgressions against our religion.”5. For your crimes against Muslims
“We hate you for your crimes against the Muslims; your drones and fighter jets bomb, kill, and maim our people around the world, and your puppets in the usurped lands of the Muslims oppress, torture, and wage war against anyone who calls to the truth.”6. For invading our lands
“We hate you for invading our lands and fight you to repel you and drive you out. As long as there is an inch of territory left for us to reclaim, jihad will continue to be a personal obligation on every single Muslim.”….….”What’s important to understand here is that although some might argue that your foreign policies are the extent of what drives our hatred, this particular reason for hating you is secondary, hence the reason we addressed it at the end of the above list.
“The fact is, even if you were to stop bombing us, imprisoning us, torturing us, vilifying us, and usurping our lands, we would continue to hate you because our primary reason for hating you will not cease to exist until you embrace Islam.”
DustyFae says
We are never going to embrace the killing of others and following any false prophet and hate any one forcing things on us that goes again out beliefs and culture
Custos Custodum says
Are you sure? Northern Africa was mostly Christian before it was overrun by Islam and its population was Islamized.
The Arabian peninsula was Jewish (!), Christian and pagan.
Baucent says
Don’t forget Egypt was mainly Christian by the 5th and 6th Century as was the lands now called “Turkey and Syria”. Now Christians are in the minority. Many converted to Islam as it was easier than resisting.
Bindon Blood says
The whole of the Middle East was Christian with a large Jewish minority. Persia was mainly Zoroastrian and Arabia pagan ,worshipping about 360 idols and Allah the Moon god. India was mainly Hindu. Many of the conquered people did convert but also hundreds of thousands were slaughtered,hundreds of thousands enslaved and tens of thousands ran away to hide in hills and mountains or to live in as yet unconquered countries. But millions were left who did not convert and paid the jizya. Over centuries their numbers were whittled away by pogroms,hardship,low birth rates,Muslim immigration and converting out of sheer weariness of persecution.The indigenous populations were also at times betrayed by their own leaders who worked with the Muslims out of fear,the hope that it might bring better conditions for their people or personal gain. It didn’t but the Eastern churches ,what’s left of them,still try to placate Islam even to the extent of joining in with the condemnation of Israel. Islam is implacable. It has no better nature. Europe will be gobbled up because the European leaders are making the same mistakes as the Eastern leaders before them.The E.U and the U.N are basically the creatures of Islam through the OIC. Between them ,and the many organisations,dialogues and committees that emanate from them the fate of Europe and her people was decided long ago,in the 1970s. Europe and her people are to be dissolved into an Islamo/European cultural blend which will in reality destroy European culture. This “Eurabia” is not fiction. It is the source of Islamic immigration,anti Israeli propaganda,E.U funding of Palestine,the Islamisation of Education and multiculturalism,designed to allow Muslims into Europe without the requirement to assimilate which is forbidden i Islam.
Islam is the most dangerous threat to humanity ever. It is more dangerous than National Socialism(with which it had many links) and Bolshevism. Both these ideologies spring from the vanity,folly and greed of mankind. Islam is a product of an evil entity that hates humanity.
Leslie says
Frankly, we have to quietly go to Putin, and whoever’s in charge in China right now, and explain to them that World War Three will not be fought between America and Russia, or Russia and China, or China and America, or any such combination; it will be fought between the Jihadists and the rest of the world. The sooner we all realize that, the better.
We have to get busy killing the Jihadists, as fast and thoroughly as possible, because they love their hate more than their lives, and will not stop killing people until they’re killed themselves. We can start by setting spy-drones out in Syria and Iraq to find exactly who and where the ISIS Jihadists are, since they like to hide among innocent civilians — and once they’re identified and pinpointed, send out the bigger killing drones, bombers, and smart missiles to kill *precisely* the Jihadists and nobody else.
We have got to formally declare war against Jihadists, in whatever organization under whatever name — Hamas, Hezbollah, ISIS, Boko Haram, no matter — *and whatever country gives them aid and shelter*. We announce that to all our whaffling “allies”, give them time to choose sides, and then we go after those organizations and countries — again, using the spy-drones and smart missiles to give us precision. Yes, Saudi Arabia and even Turkey will be among them. We conquer those countries and then *settle down to rule them for a few generations*, during which time we rule them the way Kemal Attaurk ruled Turkey — and thereby made it into a modern democratic secular nation (which is exactly what Erogan is trying to undo). We force them at gunpoint to live *as if* they were modern, democratic and secular; we force them at gunpoint to dress like modern Westerners (or, if need be, modern Russians and Chinese), send their women to school — secular schools, where they learn things like literacy, accurate history, and science, with no mention of religion at all — give the educated women good-paying secular jobs while making the men do the donkey-work, and publicly execute anybody who refuses or tries to rebel (the spy-drones will be good for that, too). Yes, we slap them with a ruthless tyranny — *which is the only rule these people understand* — until the next generation grows up with different attitudes. That’s the only way to destroy the culture that created Islam in the first place. If this sounds too grim for Americans to do, then let the Russians and Chinese do it. Russia and China will be safer and easier to deal with — and generally saner — than the Jihadists can ever be.
Dacritic says
Spot on Leslie. I keep telling people that WW3 will truly be global, borderless and is not going to be between countries but with Islam. Because Muslims are everywhere around the globe.
gravenimage says
Unfortunately, Russia and China are doing their own appeasing of Islam. I hope *all* Infidels wake up to the Jihad threat.
biff says
Now is the time where some idiot jumps in with “there is no compulsion in religion..” Bla bla bla.
ISIS is more honest with us about their intentions then our own politicians.
Twilight Zone is where we are going.
Our enemy makes movies about why they want us dead. Meanwhile we deny that there is even a problem of any kind beyond a few lone wolf. How many lone wolf make a pack?
Politicians need to understand, telling us all of Islam is a religion of peace is a failed strategy over the last 15 years. It’s not time to double down on the same lies and cognitive dissidence.
You cannot SHAME Muslims into stop killing Western Society.
Gary says
“For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, and all are justified freely by His grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus.” (Romans 3:23-24)
….apparently muslims think they’re special.
Musalmaanmasala says
Well said. Could not have put it better
Jesus says
Where this f idiot come from? It is the bombing killing and interfering in the lives of hundreds of thousands of Muslim
gravenimage says
Sure–and that’s why Muslims have been slaughtering Infidels all over the world for almost 1400 years now…
Walter Sieruk says
The cruel ,vicious and murderous jihadists thugs who composes the brutal and deadly jihad entity ISIS are actually putting in to the practice ,with all their ruthless actions, the violence and killing that is part of the teaching of the “holy book” of Islam ,the Koran. Which contain the doctrine of extreme violent force for the advancement of Islam. As seen in the Koran, for example, 4:89. 5:33. 9:5,111,123. 47:4. So in spite of the strong denials by many, ISIS is an actual Islamic organization. Likewise the malicious, bloodthirsty violence jihadists who make up ISIS are real Muslims. Nevertheless, there are some who might , understandably, wonder and then ask “Just how can those jihadists of ISIS ,being so very religious , also at the time also be so very malice-filled ,unfeeling and deadly ? “ The answer to that question is found in the Bible. For the Bible teaches that there are some people who are extremely heartless, cold, callous and dangerous because they have had “their conscience seared with a hot iron.” First Timothy 4:2. [ K.J.V.] In this case of the members of ISIS this “hot iron” is Islam.
Walter Sieruk says
One of the explanation as to how such totally unconscionable, ruthless, vicious actions and murderous are committed by the Muslim terrorists who compose the brutal and deadly jihad entity ISIS is answer in the following . The jihadists of ISIS are engaging in the Islamic doctrine of “Muruna” which is the dogma of Islam that teaches committing evil for the greater good is a noble part of the jihad for Islam. This is, in essence, the same type of “philosophy” that the communists had gone by in the twentieth century. That it’s a “good thing “ to commit many evils to obtain a “worker’s paradise.” Likewise, during World War II even the Nazis had this line of thinking.” To express, as in to illustrate this idea, even more, is by using a twenty-first century movie. Near the end of this movie, just before the final defeat of the super-arch –villain General Zod , that super villain said “No matter how brutal and deadly I was I did it for the greater good.” That is the common mindset of many villains including those of ISIS.
Walter Sieruk says
The fiendish and heinous jihadists of ISIS base their violent and murderous behavior on the instruction of violence and killing that is found in the Koran Sura 2:191. 4:89; 5:33. 9:5, 111,123. 47:4. For a more full understanding of the actual nature of the Koran a person need to look back in time before the coming of Muhammad and then the Koran. Back to the First Century AD which was the time of early Christian church. For the Early Christian Church had and now in modern times the Christian church still has the Gospel of Christ, First Corinthians 15:1-4. Much later, in time, came Muhammad and he gave much information, that many believe to be divine, some of which is said to have been obtained from an angle from heaven. This information was written down on different objects and things Those written words in different objects was then compiled together and then eventually went into the composition of what is now called the Koran, As some also call it the Qur’an. The Koran is actually, that is in reality, another gospel, apart and greatly different from the Gospel of the Christian Church. Such a thing was predicted in the Bible. For the Bible does warn about those who will come and offer to people another gospel other than the one shown above, First Corinthians 15:1-4. For it is warned about any other “gospel” in the Bible. For it is written in the Bible “Though we or an angle from heaven preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. As we said before, so I say now again, if any man preaches any other gospel unto you than ye have received, let him be accursed.” Galatians 1:8, 9. [K.J.V.] Therefore, the Koran is the result of the deception of a false prophet, Mathew 7:15., who may have come in contact with a fallen angle, a demon, So the imams and mullahs who preach it a truth to other are accused of and by God.
PRCS says
The article’s author, Jon Dean, just doesn’t “get it”–referring to them as “warped jihadists” and “twisted killers” and making several claims that it’s about “the West”.
Michael Copeland says
Here is a question for Jon Dean.
It concerns Koran 60:4, which is part of Islamic law, and praises as an
“excellent pattern…. between us and you enmity and hatred forever…”
What is the non-warped, non-twisted understanding?
KrazyKafir says
There is really no need to go past the first and foremost reason they hate us. “Because we are not Muslims”. If you eliminate all the other reasons, the first and foremost, still stands as the biggest reason.
Jack Diamond says
Exactly. Just as the Qur’an commands fighting and killing us because we are disbelievers. No other reason.
Debi Brand says
“Just as the Qur’an commands fighting and killing us because we are disbelievers. No other reason.”
Indeed.
Rejection of the “Messenger of Allah” and the message he brought.
.Mike 2 says
Brothels are immoral, are they? Didn’t the Muslims, during the golden age of Islamic Spain, demand 100 blond virgins each year to stock their brothels in filthy north Africa?
John Spielman says
Islamic “paradise” is an alcohol fuelled brothel with both hetero sexual and homosexual delights (pearly eyed boy servants)
gravenimage says
Brothels are downright decent compared to what *these* actually were–Harems. Virtually all the women in Harems were enslaved Infidels.
linnte says
After discovering the true purpose for the “belly dancer” I can no longer tolerate America’s fascination for this form of entertainment!
dumbledoresarmy says
Oh, bellydancing – a very ancient women’s dance – pre-dates Islam by millennia.
In Geraldine Brooks’ book “Nine Parts of Desire” she includes a chapter about belly-dancing in Egypt; the most zealous mohammedans were in fact trying to *stamp it out*. they were bribing (and probably also threatening) the ‘stars’, the most famous dancers, to become publicly devout muslimahs and wrap themselves up in hijab and retire from performing.
gravenimage says
True, DDA.
gravenimage says
Linnte, here are Islamists cracking down on belly dancing:
“Egyptian belly-dancing show shelved after religious backlash”
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/sep/04/egypt-belly-dancing-show-shelved-religious-backlash
By the way, I have a good friend who taught belly dancing at a well-known dance school here in San Francisco.
linnte says
Well good! Just one more thing I can add back to my list of fun things! Thanks everyone for giving me the truth. And the article you posted Graven, just points out how opressive the Muslim Brotherhood is!
gravenimage says
😉
Musalmaanmasala says
In india most of the pimps and brothel madams are muslims.
Bootlegging too is in the hands of Muslim mafia as is smuggling.
This cult is hypocritical and a lying belief.
John Spielman says
At least ISIS doesn’t lie to us like the Obamanation who sits in the Oval Office does, (that’s the ONLY good thing I can find in them)
linnte says
Like Anjem Choudary! He tells the truth and even most MUSLIMS hate him for it!
Berq says
John I agree with you the ISIS are true Muslims .What ever they are telling about Islam is Whole truth.
Mubarak says
Islam is not defeated by championing feminism, Pride parades, equality of the sexes, abortions (both the moral and demographic aspect), public nudity or haute couture, pornography, tattoos and piercings and green-purple hair and death metal concerts, obscene rap lyrics, Hollywood escapism or any other panoply of western self-adulation or self-hatred, i.e. self indulgence, that presents itself as an obvious target and justification for Islamic terror and bolsters the moral superiority of Muslims and defines the infidels in neon lights.
Neither is islam defeated by having Muslims bellowing out prayers at alters in churches or providing them with land to build their mosques upon or conducting interfaith dialogues or congratulating Muslims during Ramadan and adapt their halal regulations in public institutions or having them handle luggage in airports, military weapons or placing them in other strategic sleeper cell positions.
Short: you don’t eliminate the influence of Islam in the West by feeding Islam negatively or positively – and Islam should be starved to death.
gravenimage says
The repulsive Mubarak wrote:
Islam is not defeated by championing feminism, Pride parades, equality of the sexes, abortions (both the moral and demographic aspect), public nudity or haute couture, pornography, tattoos and piercings and green-purple hair and death metal concerts, obscene rap lyrics, Hollywood escapism or any other panoply of western self-adulation or self-hatred, i.e. self indulgence, that presents itself as an obvious target and justification for Islamic terror and bolsters the moral superiority of Muslims and defines the infidels in neon lights.
…………………………………..
The repellent Mubarak has done this before–claimed that his coreligonists are raping and murdering us because the West is so “decadent” as to have equal rights for women and to let gay people live unmolested.
He has asserted many times before that if only we essentially adopted Shari’ah strictures that Jihadists would leave us alone.
This is, of course, utterly false–Muslims attack Infidels in all sorts of places that do not have gay parades or a film industry.
The whole point of the article, above, is that Muslims are *not* attacking the West for what we do–except that we have not submitted to Islam.
But Mubarak hopes that inattentive readers here might have missed that central point, and believe that if only we jettison our own freedoms that we will be safe.
This is clearly false–if we begin to submit to Islam by adopting Islamic strictures, we will only *embolden* the Jihad–which is *exactly* what Mubarak wants.
More:
Neither is islam defeated by having Muslims bellowing out prayers at alters in churches or providing them with land to build their mosques upon or conducting interfaith dialogues or congratulating Muslims during Ramadan and adapt their halal regulations in public institutions or having them handle luggage in airports, military weapons or placing them in other strategic sleeper cell positions.
…………………………………..
Well, this is all true–most good Taquiyya artists toss in a bit of factual information to let the rest of the bs go down smoother–and so it is with Mubarak.
More:
Short: you don’t eliminate the influence of Islam in the West by feeding Islam negatively or positively – and Islam should be starved to death.
…………………………………..
Islam will not be starved to death by kowtowing to demands that we curb our freedoms–that will, in fact, *feed* it and embolden its followers.
Mubarak says
We should submit to Christian morals not Muslim sharia. If the grace of God is used to condone and even justify self indulgence, license and licentiousness, we have left ourselves without cover when calamity strikes. God is not mocked. – Do you find that repulsive and vile?
That you find me repulsive and vile is in accordance with my own self perception.
dumbledoresarmy says
What on earth is so sinful about green or purple hair?
God made birds with feathers all the colours of the rainbow; I don’t see that colouring one’s hair in similar colours is *evil*!! It’s just silly fun.
gravenimage says
The repellent Mubarak wrote:
We should submit to Christian morals not Muslim sharia. If the grace of God is used to condone and even justify self indulgence, license and licentiousness, we have left ourselves without cover when calamity strikes.
…………………………….
Once again, the foul Mubarak is posing as a Christian–and not very plausibly, either.
So far, he has claimed that it is wrong for women to go out to see New Year’s Eve fireworks, and held that they deserved to be raped by Muslim mobs for doing so.
He has held that a little six-year-old boy deserved to be raped because he went to a youth wrestling meet which–in Mubarak’s fevered imagination, at least, since there was nothing in the story to suggest it, “was probably an American and feminist inspired, inter-gender wrestling event, where no distinction is made between boys and girls, so how could the refugee from Afghanistan [the rapist–GI] tell the difference?”.
Apparently, he is fine with pedophilic rape, so long as the rapist is not (supposedly) confused as to his victim’s gender.
He condoned Muslims threatening families swimming at a swimsuit-optional private pool with *extermination*.
He said, in fact, that it was the families who should be prosecuted.
He calls these “provocations” that Muslims naturally and *morally* respond to.
Does *anyone* here consider any of this “Christian*?
More:
God is not mocked. – Do you find that repulsive and vile?
That you find me repulsive and vile is in accordance with my own self perception.
……………………………
I hate to break it to Mubarak, but I *do not believe he speaks for God*.
His implication that what I consider repulsive and vile is *God* could not be more sickening.
Mubarak has condoned the rape of women and little boys, and said that Copenhagen should be targeted for a Jihad terror attack because they hosted a silly nude art exhibit.
And now he is ranting about kids dying their hair purple–something, as Dumbledore’s Army notes, that is just innocent fun.
In fact, most of what Mubarak has condemned in the West is just that–while he has not a word of condemnation for his coreligionists raping and murdering us.
*Yes*, I consider that repulsive and vile–and so do most decent Infidels.
The idea that standing up against this savagery is “mocking God” could not be more perverse. Mocking *Allah*, perhaps, which I have no problem doing.
linnte says
I hate to break this to ya MU. That green hair and all those other things you cited about human behavior you find disgusting? That is LIBERTY at work. Freedom. And freedom WILL make Islam obsolete. THAT is what Islam hates about the WEST- LIBERTY. Every time an adventurous teenager dyes her hair outlandishly, another Islamic Allah worshiper dies. So go stuff your Islamic conditioned brain with fleah eating bacteria.
Mubarak says
The “freedom” you promote, linnte, is foreseen and rebuked by the apostle Peter: -“Live like free people, and do not use your freedom as an excuse for doing evil. Instead, be God’s servants.” –
You should stuff your heart with some of his wisdom, and I am happy to break it to you.
linnte says
Ah, but Mu! It’s YOUR DEFINITION of evil. Not mine. Scripture also says “let everyone plan out his Salvation with fear and trembling”. I take that to mean it is up to ME, not YOU to tell me, or any other person how to walk my walk with Jesus. It’s Gods job to judge and also touch the hearts of non believers.
Condemnation and judgement of non believers shows all over your spirit, body language(if someone meets you in person), and from your words. You are supposed to be Christ’s example here on this earth. Jesus ate with Publicans and sinners. When was the last time you sat down at a table with sinners and actually enjoyed yourself? When was the last time you genuinely enjoyed the company of a homeless person or invited one to live with you? Unsaved people can smell self righteousness a mile away. How many people in trouble have you lead to Christ?
I have only been a Christian for a while now. But if I had met someone with your attitude, I would have never met Christ in person. Real Christians ARE CHRIST IN PERSON. Maybe you already have a flesh eating bacteria in your brain, and it’s called pride.
gravenimage says
The foul Mubarak wrote:
The “freedom” you promote, linnte, is foreseen and rebuked by the apostle Peter: -“Live like free people, and do not use your freedom as an excuse for doing evil. Instead, be God’s servants.” –
You should stuff your heart with some of his wisdom, and I am happy to break it to you.
…………………..
Once again, Mubarak is pretending that *Christianity* demands that we bow to Islamic law.
He would have us believe that Christianity considers equality of the sexes, haute couture, allowing girls to engage in youth wrestling meets, watching escapist Hollywood films, having pierced ears, allowing women to attend public celebrations like those held on New Year’s Eve, and dying one’s hair purple to be evil.
Do any devout Christians here believe this?
Meanwhile, Mubarak has many times *lauded* his Muslim coreligionists for raping women and even little boys for running afoul of any of these Shari’ah strictures, above.
linnte says
I certainly don’t think this way. But then again, I am new to this Christian doctrine ? I just see Jesus as welcoming and powerful enough to change hearts.
gravenimage says
Linnte, I think you’re doing fine!
EYESOPEN says
I hate to break this to you linnte, but there is a difference between liberty and license, as many people will one day find out. I’m not agreeing with “Mubarack” in any way shape or form. However, a few quotes from the founders of the United States will express my thoughts even better than I can:
“We have no government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion . . . Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people”. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.”
– John Adams
“Human passions unbridled by morality and religion…would break the strongest cords of our Constitution as a whale goes through a net.”
– John Adams
“A country cannot subsist well without liberty, nor liberty without virtue.”
– Daniel Webster
linnte says
Well, nice quotes, but show me that in the Constitution. “Moral behavior” is still subjective, and so is “religion”. So I will stick with my Constitution, thanks ?
gravenimage says
EYESOPEN wrote:
I hate to break this to you linnte, but there is a difference between liberty and license, as many people will one day find out..
………………………….
This is true, EYESOPEN–good quotes. But what Mubarak is objecting to is not immoral license or a lack of virtue.
Almost all of his examples are of innocent fun, which harms no one and is often actually salubrious. It is *Islam*, not Christianity, which condemns such innocent pleasures.
And note what he would *replace* watching fireworks and attending youth sporting events *with*–the rape and murder of innocent people, including *little children*.
jayell says
Right, well I’ve read their six ‘reasons’, and ‘reason’ doesn’t seem to come into it much since it basically seems to add up to little more or less than an incoherent catalogue of pathetic, brain-dead, ill-informed and twisted bigotry and a puerile attempt at justifying a near-psychopathic mindset. If they’re not actually thick as three short planks, they’re doing a very good impression of it, and add to that more than a hint of paranoid mental imbalance evident in the unfocussed and ostensibly illogical aggression in every paragraph, and we see that these people can hardly be described as being of any constructive value at all not only to humanity but to Creation as a whole. The only people who need to ‘listen’ to these people would be properly-qualified therapists, and within the confines of a secure institution, because I really don’t think they’re fit to be allowed to attempt to mix in with civilised society – as recent events in Europe have proved.
Guest says
Jesus came before Muhammad
Carl says
We are NOT “at war with the forces of political Islam” because “political Islam” does not exist. Islam is both politics and worship. All of it comes from the same Koran and Sunnah, and “politics” cannot be separated from the rest of Islam.
We are at war with Islam, itself.
gravenimage says
Yes–*all* Muslims want to see us submit to Islam. Their “grievances” have nothing to do with it–they are just a way of undermining our determination to defend ourselves.
dumbledoresarmy says
Yep.
It’s all put very plainly by that classic Daniel Greenfield article, “The Dangers of Legitimising Muslim Grievances”.
http://sultanknish.blogspot.com/2011/11/dangers-of-legitimizing-islamic.html
Sunday, November 13, 2011
The Dangers of Legitimizing Muslim Grievances
“…Muslim grievances are the frustration of conquerors, the broken teeth of predators who weren’t allowed to feed on the world until their stomachs burst…
“The fundamental Muslim grievance is that they are not in power, not just in Israel where the world has accepted their demand to be in power as a wholly moral and legitimate demand, or throughout the Muslim world where Western governments have helped bring the Islamists to power with bombs and political pressure. The fundamental grievance is that they are not in power… everywhere…”.
And here is a very astute Israeli Jewish writer, pointing out the same thing – “You can never be nice enough to the Muslims”.
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Articles/Article.aspx/18024
Op-Ed: You can never be “nice” enough to the Muslims
They want your country, your religion and your life.
And here, from the Comments to an op-ed in an Aussie newspaper from way back in January 2009, *seven years ago*, is one Aussie’s account of a conversation with (Shiite) Muslims whom he had seen, in the sunny streets of his hometown, howling “Death to Israel! Kill the Jews”.
‘Jonathan Whybird
Mon 19 Jan 09 (05:24pm)
“…Marcus (the expert on everything) {another commenter in the talkback – dda} I cannot agree with your view that most of the Palestinians [sic – dda] are peaceful people.
‘On Saturday [17th Jan] in Brisbane there was another demonstration in favour of Palestine [sic: DDA] **at which anybody who bothered to go (I live in the city and they marched in my street so I had a front row ground level seat as my fiance and I had come back from a run) would have heard Muslim Australians chanting “kill the jews”.** [my emphasis – dda]
“I even spoke to one protestor who confirmed he was Muslim and from Iran who said there would only be peace when Israel and the rest of the west was destroyed.
“Now this man was supported by many of his fellow protestors who screamed with him, but for three men in the crowd who shook their heads and at that point left the protest (and apologised to us for the comments of the others).
[Nota bene: it is the *many* who howl ‘kill the Jews” and call for destruction of the West and of Israel; it is only a *few* who appear to be somewhat embarrassed – dda]
“When I asked the man why he hated the west he said “because you reject the prophet”..”.
There it is in a nutshell. Say NO to Mohammed – by refusing to become Muslim, or by refusing to become grovelling, exploited, abused near-slave Dhimmis – and you are… to be killed.
That’s all it takes. ALL it takes. If the USA had remained totally isolated in the New World – if it had never gone anywhere near the lands blighted by Muslims – it would *still* be hated, and attacked. You don’t have to do ANYTHING to Muslims, to become a target of Jihad. All it takes is.. breathing-while-Infidel.
dumbledoresarmy says
Christopher Hitchens understood, or was very close to understanding.
Here is what he wrote the day after the 7 July 2005 Muslim mass murders in London.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-stories/2005/07/08/we-cannot-surrender-115875-15713152/
WE CANNOT SURRENDER
“…We know very well what the “grievances” of the jihadists are.
“The grievance of seeing unveiled women. The grievance of the existence, not of the State of Israel, but of the Jewish people. The grievance of the heresy of democracy, which impedes the imposition of sharia law. The grievance of a work of fiction written by an Indian living in London. The grievance of the existence of black African Muslim farmers, who won’t abandon lands in Darfur. The grievance of the existence of homosexuals. The grievance of music, and of most representational art. The grievance of the existence of Hinduism. The grievance of East Timor’s liberation from Indonesian rule. All of these have been proclaimed as a licence to kill infidels or apostates, or anyone who just gets in the way….
“It is a big mistake to believe this is an assault on “our” values or “our” way of life. It is, rather, an assault on all civilisation. ..”
(indeed, on all of non-Muslim humanity – dda).
“…The grievances I listed above are unappeasable, one of many reasons why the jihadists will lose.
They demand the impossible – the cessation of all life in favour of prostration before a totalitarian vision..”.
Let’s remember, this was written *before* the implosion of Libya, Egypt, Syria.
This was written *before* the rise of Islamic State.
But the demand of the jihadis who mass murdered London commuters is exactly the same as the demand of Islamic State jihadis who incited the mass murder of people celebrating Bastille Day in Nice, or listening to a concert at the Bataclan theatre in Paris.
‘…the cessation of all life in favour of prostration before a totalitarian vision”.
Before ‘allah’, before something that the astute 19th century scholar, Palgrave, defined as “a pantheism of Force”.
gravenimage says
Thanks for all the great links, DDA.
Cecilia Ellis says
For anyone interested in viewing the latest issue of “Dabiq,” the ISIS online magazine which contains the original article, as well as much more repulsive information, you may safely read and/or download the entire publication at the following website:
http://www.clarionproject.org/factsheets-files/islamic-state-magazine-dabiq-fifteen-breaking-the-cross.pdf
The Foreword is also quite revealing. Drink plenty of Pepto Bismol prior to attempting to read this document . . . and keep on hand a reserve bottle.
gravenimage says
Thanks for the link, Cecilia.
dumbledoresarmy says
I would suggest that Jews and Christians keep a copy of the Psalms handy as well.
Read about a dozen *before* beginning, and then read another dozen or so after finishing.
Cecilia Ellis says
Most assuredly, DDA.
abad says
Muslims are going to hell unless they repent (turn away) from Islam and accept Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior.
There is no other way.
Islam is from Satan himself and Muhammad his demon-possessed messenger
Angemon says
Well, al least they’re being consistent – the people who claims “islamophobes” cherry pick verses from the quran out of context also cherry pick the reasons they claim muslims hate us. “Colonialism! Imperialism! War for oil!!!”
Jake Holan says
Christine, until now I thought the Islamic point of view expressed by IS was common knowledge. Such that the Mirror mocks the ideology as a perversion of Islam I suggest that those Scholars of the Quran and Hadith reporting/editorializing at the Mirror a look at the practices of Iran and Saudi Arabia, Sudan and now Malaysia. They will see we aren’t looking at a Mountain of Difference but their cherished Leftist view will keep them myopic and deaf.
mortimer says
Thanks for this, Christine.
I just had a discussion with a very liberal woman who resisted believing there isn’t an underlying REAL REASON that people turn to jihad. I said, 90% of jihadists are from stable, well-to-do families and are people with degrees. I said it is 100% the source texts that cause jihad. She was unable to take my word, even though I have studied Islam for 12 years.
Christine, the years of study required to understand Islam’s source texts and confusing doctrines are many…at least 10 years of study. How do we break through to people who will not do the reading of the source texts?
linnte says
I just called OUT Clarion Project on this same issue! Asking them why they don’t show Aya or encourage non Muslims and Muslims too, to read Islamic texts.
sally says
It would be amazing if you guys could collate a piece highlighting where various media outlets choose to opine in this manner after quoting Muslims declaring the reasons for jihad. The Mirror did it recently after the UK imam said slavery is permissible. Etc. That would be really sharable and something that could then be raised with the media collectively. They should be forced to justify their opinions and publish a retraction if they are unable to.
vivienne Leijonhufvu (@goldaleijonhufv) says
Reading the above article all I can say is as I have always believed ISLAM is f……….insanity. Why on earth can’t governments see this. Deal with them, round them up ship them out, take away their passports. Who the hell cares where they go, at the bottom of the Mariannas Trench for all I care. Then drop the bomb on the damn lot. The trench is seven miles deep, there are others which could be utilized in the same way. Were I in a powerful position forget human rights, this is what I would do, as for whinging lefties jail them until they grow up and learn the value of true freedom. I am deadly serious it is time something was done about ISLAM this problem has been ongoing for 1400 years. The few enlightened Muslim leaders have either been assassinated or deposed. Anyone remember how Egypt was when they were a small child?
Leslie says
According to a survey done by the UN, between 65% and 80%^ of all the Muslims in the *world* are fundamentalist; they really do believe that the Koran is the word of god transmitted by Mohammed, that every single word in it is absolutely and literally true, that it’s their duty to conquer the world for Islam, and that Shariah law must rule everywhere. Now most of these are too lazy, chicken, greedy, or whatever to actively put these ideas into practice, but they continue to provide a pool of resources and recruits for the active Jihadis. So, they have to go.
There are ways to tell which Muslims are the other 20-35%, but the Fundies must leave all Western lands and go back to Dar-es-Salaam. Let them take with them all the goodies and money they got at our expense, give each of them a clean white suit of new clothes suitable for pilgrims, give them exit visas but no passports, and send them to the one place on Earth where all good Muslims want to go at least once in their lives: Mecca. Just make sure that there’s no way for them to come back. Let them become the Saudis problem. Then set Saudi Arabia to fighting Iran. That should keep them both busy.
Meanwhile, we have got to smash ISIS/ISIL/Daesh, with or without any help from our supposed “allies” in the middle-east (Turkey is rapidly turning into a Jihadist country, Egypt is doing the same, and Pakistan is no friend at all.) We can use spy-drones to pinpoint exactly who and where the Jihadists are, and then use smart missiles to kill them — precisely, without harming the innocent victims the Jihadists like to hide among. Kill them all to the last foaming mullah, and give their land to the Kurds and the Yezidis.
In any case, we have to formally declare war on the Jihadists, and any organization they form, under any name, and *any country that aids and shelters them*. Look to Russia and China — seriously — for alliance against the Jihadists; better to have them rule the Arab lands than the Arabs themselves.
Dnaxy@comcast.net says
They get “paid” for hating too. All the booty and the slaves and raping. All the virgins and bliss in heaven. All the earthly adulation and praise. It is not only the theory that pushes them; it is mans’ greed and need for praise. Devilishly clever belief system it is.
Barb Wright says
I can’t understand why muslims believe they will have virgins in their afterlife… there is no physical body in the afterlife so how could they enjoy physical intamacy with virgins?
ICH says
the book looks evil does it not?
even the green text , how its laid out….everything about it seems wrong
common sense says
I thought this was the BLM manifesto that just got released. Easy translation is “its all about me” Hitlers ghost at work again.
Embrace Islam? Only to be enslaved and oppressed? What? They truly are daft.
I wonder what the Jihadists in ISIS are thinking as bombs are coming down around them. “Gotta get this manifesto of hate published…quick!” Probably not.
Can’t wait to see the fight between Hillary and the Saudis over the people’s will to get rid of the Islamo-fascists.
If she wins that is ka-ching ka-ching ka-ching.
With all due respect to those who have been killed, raped beaten and tortured by these animals we ain’t seen nothing yet folks.
Remember to pat you little lefty friends on the head and tell them we’ll still protect you when SHTF.
Trina says
ISIS reveals ” We hate you”
I say ” The feeling is mutual”
David says
I’m sorry. I will NEVER convert to SATAN WORSHIP/islam.
It is just not in my nature.
Thank God for the Constitution and our second amendment rights. Americans will fight!
(Yes, I know there are millions of fools who would not, but I’ve never counted those as Real American at all.)