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UK: Muslim kills one, wounds 5 in stabbings, cops say “no evidence of radicalisation”

Aug 4, 2016 9:42 am By Robert Spencer

“No evidence of radicalisation”: in other words, British authorities are continuing their absurd comic opera of pretending that there is no global jihad, no global jihadi entity that has repeatedly called for lone wolf attacks on civilians in the West and specifically mentioned knives as a weapon, no war in which Britain is currently engaged. No, none of that is happening. All this is is a criminal act by a man with “mental health issues.” Move along.

London knife attack

“Russell Square stabbings: Man arrested on suspicion of murder,” BBC, August 4, 2016:

A man has been arrested on suspicion of murder after a US citizen was killed and five other people were injured in a knife attack in central London.

Police believe the attack in Russell Square on Wednesday was “spontaneous”, with victims “selected at random”.

The woman who died was thought to be in her 60s. The injured people were from Britain, America, Israel and Australia.

Police arrested a 19-year-old Norwegian national of Somali origin. They say there is no evidence of radicalisation.

The Met Police’s assistant commissioner for specialist operations, Mark Rowley, said the investigation was increasingly pointing to the attack being “triggered by mental health issues”.

He had earlier said the force was considering terrorism as a line of inquiry.

Mr Rowley, Britain’s most senior counter-terrorism officer, told a press conference it had been necessary to consider “all possibilities” following recent terror attacks across Europe.

Police said the man was arrested after a Taser was discharged by an officer.

Two other women and three men received various injuries in the attack, which happened near the Imperial Hotel at about 22:30 BST.

Two from the group remain in hospital while the other three have since been discharged. None have life-threatening injuries.

The US ambassador to the UK, Matthew Barzun, said of the woman who died: “Heartbreaking news that a U.S. citizen was killed in #RussellSquare attack. My prayers are with all the victims and their loved ones.”

After receiving treatment in hospital, the arrested man, who was detained in Bedford Place, is now in police custody in south London.

Norwegian police said in a statement the man had emigrated from Norway in 2002 and they were assisting London police.

The Met said an address had been searched by officers in north London on Thursday morning and another will be searched in south London.

Jodie Parry, who witnessed the events unfold from her hotel window, said she saw a man running down the street.

“I could hear the policeman screaming ‘stop, don’t move, don’t go any further, just stay where you are’, and he turned round and continued running,” she said.

She added that the man was carrying a knife and had blood on his hands.

Paul Ó Geibheannaigh, who lives near to the square, said he had seen the body of the woman “on the pavement” and the area was surrounded by a “heavy armed police presence”….

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Comments

  1. Troybeam says

    Aug 4, 2016 at 9:44 am

    Silence will get you killed when the enemy is in the house.

    • Havoc says

      Aug 4, 2016 at 4:00 pm

      “No Muslims. No Mosques”
      .
      Works every time.

      • Duke says

        Aug 4, 2016 at 8:19 pm

        No muslims – know peace.

        • The Bull says

          Aug 5, 2016 at 6:14 am

          Know Muslims – no peace

        • Biff H says

          Aug 5, 2016 at 11:58 am

          For suckers

          http://www.middleeasteye.net/news/isis-suck-say-us-muslims-giant-billboard-Chicago-islamic-state-islamophobia-568002033

          http://www.middleeasteye.net/columns/nice-attacker-was-not-islamist-jihadist-or-even-terrorist-islam-islamic-state-france-1464464092

  2. salim says

    Aug 4, 2016 at 9:48 am

    The press in the UK kept this in the dark for many hours. Some newspapers didn’t allow comments on the story and those which allowed comments censored them. The identity of the terrorist was not revealed for many hours and when it was revealed he was described as Norwegian!! Only if you read more you know he is a Somali Muslim.

    The UK has surrendered to Islam long time ago!!

    • jihad3tracker says

      Aug 4, 2016 at 10:01 am

      Hello salim — This knife jihad will be a crucial indicator of how honest the MUSLIM MAYOR OF LONDON will be about violence central to Islam, as shown by this Somali attacking Infidels and obeying Islamic State’s mandate to use any weapon available..

      I have a bit of time today (Thursday) and for the next couple of days to discover internet items on what he says and perhaps does — but MAYBE YOU AND OTHER READERS HERE CAN ALSO SCOUT FOR ITEMS ON THE WEB — and then forward links to Robert.

      He also searches, of course, but the more volunteers he has, the better coverage there will be. Contact Robert with: director@jihadwatch.org to pass along what we find.

      • Johan Elzinga says

        Aug 4, 2016 at 6:01 pm

        Well and he is obviously very good at it OR there is so much out there that remains hidden at this moment by all media… Let’s help Robert!

    • VampireJack says

      Aug 4, 2016 at 11:14 am

      No, WE have NOT.

      • JawsV says

        Aug 4, 2016 at 2:27 pm

        Really? Sure looks like it. You have a Muslim mayor. Have you read “Londonistan” by Melanie Phillips (2006)? Yes, Britain has surrendered to Islam, there’s no doubt about it.

        • VampireJack says

          Aug 4, 2016 at 2:42 pm

          Are you American? If so, you have a muslim president.
          Are you in Europe? You have plenty of muslim politicians in high ranking jobs.
          You MUST have a problem with muslims where you are. Otherwise, why are you here?

          ALL capital cities of the western world have large numbers of muslims.
          No doubt yours does too – and have “surrendered” to the islamists.

          Our politicians may be all “islam is peace” but I can guarantee that the vast majority of us kuffar realise the problem. Yes there are lefties who seem intent on cultural suicide – but THEY are the majority.

          Go to a British pub or football stadium and ask the average Brit what his view is on islam. You may be surprised to see that WE have NOT given up. And we will NEVER surrender to them.

          If it comes to it then we, to quote Sir Winston Churchill :

          We shall go on to the end. We shall fight in France, we shall fight on the seas and oceans, we shall fight with growing confidence and growing strength in the air, we shall defend our island, whatever the cost may be. We shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills; we shall never surrender.

          THAT is the true Bulldog spirit that seems to be missing from some – but NOT all of us.

        • VampireJack says

          Aug 4, 2016 at 2:45 pm

          Of course I meant to say about the lefties that THEY are the MINORITY!

        • JawsV says

          Aug 4, 2016 at 3:08 pm

          Yeah OK Jack – then you better start doing something NOW.

        • gravenimage says

          Aug 4, 2016 at 3:20 pm

          *All of us* in the West are in this same boat–some of us are just further down the river than are others.

        • Johan Elzinga says

          Aug 4, 2016 at 6:07 pm

          In vampireJack’s defense: At least the Brits are leaving Europe and are not letting themselves be forced to keep their borders open…( Did you keep up with the news about Calais lately? Oh and, for this news, you will have to be a follower of jihadwatch of course, this news is also heavily banned from the regular media…)

      • Lord Wrath says

        Aug 5, 2016 at 2:39 am

        “True Bulldog Spirit”??? Jack,,, the English Bulldog is so fat and inbred that it is virtually incapable of any physical action… Much like their owners!!!

        • Carolyne says

          Aug 5, 2016 at 9:12 am

          The English people have allowed laws to be passed that criminalize criticism of Islam. Making a comment about Islam in a British pub will get you arrested It could be that everyone there objects to Islam taking over the UK, but are afraid to discuss it for fear of being accused of “Hate speech.”

          Subjects of the Queen: Take back your country.

    • balam says

      Aug 4, 2016 at 4:07 pm

      These Muslim Terrorist give a BAD NAME to European Countries who award them the honour of citizen ship and nationality. How could one allow the poisonous snakes living in your home. NO MUSLIMS= YES TO PEACE. YES TO MUSLIMS= NO PEACE.

    • JMB says

      Aug 4, 2016 at 7:12 pm

      I understand that the deceased victim is an American woman, where are the cries of condemnation from Obama? I have just seen this story on the morning news here in Australia, no mention of Somali nor Muslim, just “mental health issues”. (And lots of pictures of the floral tributes) Do our leaders and the media really think the people are completely stupid?

      • abad says

        Aug 4, 2016 at 7:52 pm

        Obama would never admit one of his Brothers in Allah(TM) murdered an American woman.

        I would never go to the UK they have a VERY serious Muslim problem.

        Muslims.

        Muslims want to kill you.

        Christians want to convert you.

        • JMB says

          Aug 4, 2016 at 10:11 pm

          How true. Black with Muslim sympathies, how was this ever allowed to happen.

          As for travel to Europe, I really do think there is a very serious problem, as REAL Brits used to say, when they were still allowed to say it; “Its all them foreigners if you ask me, they should never have let them in…”

        • Carolyne says

          Aug 5, 2016 at 9:16 am

          I used to go to the UK at least twice a year for vacation. I no longer go because of the Muslims they have allowed to take over their country. I guess they would rather have parasitic Muslims than American tourist money.

      • Peggy says

        Aug 4, 2016 at 11:07 pm

        Do our leaders and the media really think the people are completely stupid?
        —–
        Yes.
        So far we haven’t given them good enough reason not to think that because we are still obeying the law and not really protesting in any great numbers.
        This tells them that only a minority object to Muslims and it’s easy to paint them as Nazis.

        • dumbledoresarmy says

          Aug 5, 2016 at 5:23 am

          Are you by any chance dropping veiled hints that those who, in western infidel lands, are awake up to the jihad, should start *disobeying* the law, Muslim-mob-style, in order to get attention?

        • Alvin Woods says

          Aug 5, 2016 at 6:56 am

          I agree with Peggy. Germany raised 5-10k protesters last weekend against Merkel. Turks raised 30-40k in support of Erdogan, in Germany.

          Right now the only folk marching in the west are in the minority, easily labeled as being far right or neo nazis.
          Voting is a rigged 2 party system.
          The brexit can easily be shot down by the House of Lords or even after the next election.
          We are being conned.

          Unfortunately, there will be no great awakening by the people against thus regime or against the jihad. The jihadist are a tool used by the powers to control us. These muslim radicals could be wiped out over night if the western governments chose to. Merkel knows precisely what she is doing. Destroying nationalism and killing the German identity. The only great awakening will be a full on communist awakening in the west.

          Your white king is sleeping under the mountain. Nothing will wake him to retake his lands.

        • gravenimage says

          Aug 5, 2016 at 6:03 pm

          We don’t defend Western culture by behaving like ravening Mohamedans. But we should be out peacefully protesting in large numbers in support of our values–as PEGIDA is doing:

          “PICTURES: Second Peaceful PEGIDA UK March Takes Place In Birmingham”

          http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/04/02/pictures-second-peaceful-pegida-uk-march-takes-place-in-birmingham-german-founder-lutz-bachmann-speaks/

    • Shane says

      Aug 5, 2016 at 5:00 pm

      These British cops are the modern Keystone cops; they are as clueless as Inspector Clouseau.

  3. c matt says

    Aug 4, 2016 at 9:48 am

    It is not radicalization – it is par for the course for Islam.

    • balam says

      Aug 4, 2016 at 3:51 pm

      Every Muslim suffers from ACUTE MENTAL ILLNESS CALLED ISLAM.

      • dumbledoresarmy says

        Aug 5, 2016 at 5:25 am

        This bloke was having what Jihadwatch regular ‘duh-swami’ (who has a LOT of experience re mental illness; I recall him saying that he spent some years working for a psych hospital – not sure in what capacity – wardsman? nurse?) calls “an Allahgasm”.

      • Carolyne says

        Aug 5, 2016 at 9:25 am

        Every Muslim from the moment of birth is “Radicalized.” All one has to do to be aware of this is read a Koran. To defeat it, we must stop electing leaders who are either Muslim, in the case of Obama, or pro-Muslim as in the case of Cameron and now May and Merkel.

  4. RichardL says

    Aug 4, 2016 at 9:51 am

    good time to drop this radicalisation rubbish. It just doesn’t make sense because a Muslim who becomes violent is already a radical before s/he is violent.

    But I have been in the counter-terrorism world for so long and am becoming very optimistic that people are starting to open their eyes to the Muslim threat.

    • efoc says

      Aug 4, 2016 at 10:07 am

      100% agree, I’m tired of hearing that word “radicalisation”. It means nothing and is basically a good filler for those idiots who don’t want to say “Islam” or “Muslims” whenever there is an attack that involves them. Much easier to say “radicals” and “radicalisation” and deflect attention away from what is really going on.

      If people in counter-terrorism are starting to open their eyes then I am happy. The sooner, the better.

      • Demsci says

        Aug 4, 2016 at 1:32 pm

        Oh, it is not that I disagree, but it seems “we” better find a way to somehow distinquish between muslims, and avoind “painting all Muslims with the same brush” in the battle for the minds and hearts of the Majority of democratic citizens.

        And there is a vexed question allright; If all Islam is responsible, then all Muslims are responsible! And that stance get’s a lot of opposition.

        Fortunately Muslims “cherrypick” and interpret Islam (Quran-Hadiths-Sira) in quite divers ways. And if we do not count the theologian Tafsirs as totally authoritative, it seems to me that Quran-Hadiths-Sira are “a mess”‘ Totally ambiguous to begin with.

        And this means that we can present the case that we cannot know what sort of Muslim a Muslim is until we ask him or her.

        Asking: Is your interpretation of Islam compatible or not compatible with the democratic nature of this country? We can ask mosques the same question. Democratic citizens can even give Muslims the example by answering the question whether THEY are in favor of democratic system and democratic nations or not.

        And of course Muslims may lie, but it is a beginning to say;

        “Look, what you Muslims interpret from Islam globally is very varied. It is moreover our opinion that Islam; Quran-Hadiths-Sira are basically unclear;

        so, Muslims, please clarify your position towards
        A. Democratic system, laws, tenets and
        B. loyalty towards the 35 or so Democratic nations or their enemies. Whereas Muslim so-called “neutrality” by now is too suspect and unacceptable.

        Just brainstorming

  5. Angry Aussie says

    Aug 4, 2016 at 9:51 am

    There appears to be a pattern forming yet again. If very few of the recent Allahu Akbar crew are deemed to be terrorists, one can only assume that inbreeding causes their mental illness, which still points to the Quran.

    I think the Western World will only wake up and realise the gravity of their mistake once a politician’s head is rolling down the street. It seems not much else will awaken the very grinning idiots insistent on fast tracking our demise.

    • Kay says

      Aug 4, 2016 at 10:08 am

      Yes, somehow they’re not feeling connected to the victims.

      • gravenimage says

        Aug 4, 2016 at 10:23 am

        Oh, they feel “connected” to them, all right–but only so far as they believe the “filthy Kuffar” deserve to die.

    • Christopher471 says

      Aug 4, 2016 at 11:23 am

      Dream on. They never will ‘wake up’. We have a Muslim Mayor of London and many now among the establishment. We will never rid our society of muslins. There are too many of them. As the Prime Minister of France, Manuel Vals, said – we will have to get used to it. Welcome to Londistan.

      • JawsV says

        Aug 4, 2016 at 2:30 pm

        Exactly. Muslim mayor of Londonistan. Millions of over-breeding Muslims in your small island country. It’s over unless you start deporting.

      • dumbledoresarmy says

        Aug 5, 2016 at 5:45 am

        that’s just defeatism, despair, and feeding the Dementors.

        Even if, in your darkest moments, you *feel* that way;, don’t say it.

        And: *do what you can* to counter Islamisation.

        Do you support Gavin Boby’s “Law and Freedom Foundation”, and protest against mosque building?

        Do you support Paul Weston’s “Liberty Great Britain”? Do you belong to PEGIDA UK? March for England? The Royal Society of St George?

        If too many people give in to despair and sit down and do NOTHING, then of course you will lose… but… they will have *helped create* the disaster they merely claim to predict/ describe.

        Go and read G K Chesterton, The Flying Inn and “The Ballad of the White Horse”.

        and then get up in the morning and ask what you can *do*. I hope you *are* doing something; perhaps you’re doing all the things I mentioned above? Even just keeping soldiering on, trying – as opportunity arises – to warn and awaken others who have not yet recognised the threat, is better than nothing.

        • Alvin Woods says

          Aug 5, 2016 at 7:01 am

          Thanks Dumbledore. Its pretty hard not to feel defeatist though.
          I was happy for the Brexit and Trump but now feel that the rug will be puled from under us.

          I will read your books you mentioned.

        • gravenimage says

          Aug 5, 2016 at 6:04 pm

          Hear, hear, DDA!

    • Carolyne says

      Aug 5, 2016 at 9:29 am

      Is it known whether or not Mohammed’s parents were brother and sister? First cousins? First-cousin marriage is the basic reason for the mental deficiency of Pakis. 90% of those who are married are married to their first cousins. Don’t know about Somalies, but probably about the same.

  6. StuartG says

    Aug 4, 2016 at 9:55 am

    What is really frightening about this is the lengths BBC go to to hide the truth. I could understand if it was a movie and they were anxious to avoid portraying Muslims in a bad light, but this is the news, it should be factual.

    • salim says

      Aug 4, 2016 at 10:00 am

      I agree. it is frustrating.
      Soon, such news may read like this: “A woman was killed as she accidentally came in the way of a knife held by a Norwegian with mental health issues”. Conclusion:
      Norwegians are terrorists
      Knives must be banned
      Islam and Muslims not involved.

      • gravenimage says

        Aug 4, 2016 at 10:23 am

        Slander against *actual* Norwegians.

        • Salome says

          Aug 4, 2016 at 5:33 pm

          Indeed, gravenimage. It’s many hundreds of years since actual Norwegians landed in Britain and went berserk.

        • Peggy says

          Aug 4, 2016 at 11:10 pm

          Yes, but they won’t even object let alone murder someone for it.

    • salim says

      Aug 4, 2016 at 10:14 am

      May I add its not only the BBC but all of them. Now they all moved the story away from main light and refer to the Muslim as a knifeman. They try to say the attack is just another crime, nothing to worry about!!

    • Kay says

      Aug 4, 2016 at 11:34 am

      Yes. So much that we read the initial news (with that many targeted we were already pretty sure it was a Muslim attack) and then watch to see how much they’ll hide.

      • dumbledoresarmy says

        Aug 5, 2016 at 5:52 am

        Seconding that.

        You wrote – “…with that many targeted we were already pretty sure it was a Muslim attack.”

        Something about this attack as reported (and it was not the BBC but our Aussie ABC that was, I think, the first place I heard about it; and the ABC takes its cue from the BBC, pretty much, had me wondering whether it was a Muslim running amok. Probably because it was so similar in ‘style’ to the many, many instances of Stabbing Jihad that have been happening in Israel in the past six months.

    • Raja says

      Aug 5, 2016 at 12:19 pm

      If Islam is evil BBC too is evil because evil controls BBC.With Islam truth has the least consideration/value because Islam is “supreme” so what BBC is doing is not surprising.

    • Demsci says

      Aug 5, 2016 at 6:34 pm

      I agree, my only comfort is that they most of the time indeed MUST report about “Islam-related attacks. Whereas under an Islamic or Political Correct dictatorship people like those with the BBC would simply not report the newsstories.

      And I have been fascinated by this idea of David Icke. As far as I am concerned a hostile lunatic.

      But He believes quite the opposite of what we think; He thinks some secret global organisation is orchestrating ISIS and all these Islamic terror-attacks in order to be able to increase police and eventually let the citizens of Democratic Nations give up freedom in exchange for safety.

      And so he declares time and again that both ISIS-attacks and publicity about them are “enlarged” and fully taken advantage of. Although my opinion is completely opposite, I am glad at least HE sees the devastating publicity-effect of the ISIS-attacks.

      And I add, there are also many Muslims, and even quite a few political corrects who also believe that the press in the Western nations somehow is biased AGAINST Islam.

  7. ZULU says

    Aug 4, 2016 at 9:59 am

    He was a Norwegian-Somali. Probably something to do with his Nordic heritage…….

    PICTURED: The moment police bundled crazed Norwegian-Somali knife attacker to the ground after he stabbed US woman to death in Russell Square. Police claim attack was ‘spontaneous and random’

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3722796/Woman-killed-five-people-injured-terrorist-knife-attack-central-London.html#ixzz4GN7UBzb3

    • Carolyne says

      Aug 5, 2016 at 9:33 am

      Isn’t it amazing how fast the authorities can work to determine that such attacks have nothing to do with Islam? I wish they were so efficient in other cases

  8. Jaladhi says

    Aug 4, 2016 at 10:00 am

    “No evidence of radicalization” – yup, it is normal Islam/Muslim behavior. Muslims follow the footsteps of their “ideal criminal man” – Mohammad!! What else would one expect from a normal Muslim. Mohammad killed and raped and so do the Muslims ever since in the hope pleasing the criminal Mo.

    • David says

      Aug 4, 2016 at 1:04 pm

      Yes. It’s true. The founder of this horrid CULT of blood, rape, murder and PENIS worship was a rabid psycopath! Someone once likened him to 10,000 Charles Mansons! Or dozens of Adolf Hitlers!
      Why anyone, now, in this our 21st century, would want to emulate him is totally beyond human comprehension. I feel for certain that THE FORCES OF SATAN are behind it all.

  9. Mr. Absurdson says

    Aug 4, 2016 at 10:08 am

    Many parts of England are third-world.

  10. Mike says

    Aug 4, 2016 at 10:10 am

    So glad the London Metro Police were on hand to make sure the muslim invader was given the space he needed to kill British citizens.

    • Alvin Woods says

      Aug 5, 2016 at 7:08 am

      He’ll be out on good behaviour in 10 years

  11. Denny Abrahamsson says

    Aug 4, 2016 at 10:10 am

    Mental illness is spreading quick in Europe

  12. gravenimage says

    Aug 4, 2016 at 10:15 am

    UK: Muslim kills one, wounds 5 in stabbings, cops say “no evidence of radicalisation”
    …………………………

    You would think stabbing the “filthy Infidels” was sign enough of “radicalization”.

    Now the Jihad stabbing attacks so rife in Israel have reached the rest of the West.

    This poor woman–there will, no doubt, be many, many more of these attacks.

    And this Jihadist is *not* Norwegian–he is a member of the Ummah who was temporarily using that stretch of Dar-al-Harb as a base until he moved on to the stretch in England.

  13. Georg says

    Aug 4, 2016 at 10:16 am

    No radicalization… Mhm. Perhaps of interst: The other Somali guy who stabbed people in London’s subway has just been sentenced.

    • gravenimage says

      Aug 4, 2016 at 10:26 am

      Georg, I actually missed that story–do you have a link? That I can’t even keep up with these Jihad terror attacks is a *very* bad sign.

      • Georg says

        Aug 4, 2016 at 10:33 am

        Sorry, should have posted a link. Here it is:

        http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/leytonstone-tube-stabbing-isis-fanatic-8503326

        • Michael Copeland says

          Aug 4, 2016 at 10:41 am

          From that link:
          “Doctors say he increasingly identified with Islamic extremism and his mental health deteriorated – and that he also believed he was possessed by spirits and Tony Blair was his ‘guardian angel’.”

        • Georg says

          Aug 4, 2016 at 10:54 am

          Yes, Michael. Isn’t it lovely?

          Some other gems:

          “Old Bailey heard how Mire had been diagnosed with paranoid schizophrenia.” As was his Prophet.

          “suffered a persecution complex” As do his coreligionists.

        • gravenimage says

          Aug 4, 2016 at 3:40 pm

          Thank you, Georg. More “smiting at the necks” of Infidel victims. Thank goodness a doctor came to his aid immediately, or I doubt he would have survived.

          And yes–I managed to miss this story entirely–as though having your throat cut by a ravening Mohammedan while taking the subway is now just a routine local news item. Good God…

        • Salome says

          Aug 4, 2016 at 5:34 pm

          To suffer a persecution complex is a religious obligation.

  14. ed says

    Aug 4, 2016 at 10:18 am

    he has now been downgraded to ” Norwegian ” only !

    • Georg says

      Aug 4, 2016 at 10:24 am

      LOL. That’s the thanks Norway gets for putting itself at dire risk to be enviably oh-so-nice.

    • Norwegian says

      Aug 4, 2016 at 4:10 pm

      ???

  15. Georg says

    Aug 4, 2016 at 10:21 am

    Wait… I finally get it! Being Somali and “randomly” stabbing non-Muslims/non-Somalis is non-radical. Phew…

    That took a few years to catch on to. The government’s point has finally sunk in.

  16. Ronen says

    Aug 4, 2016 at 10:26 am

    “no evidence of radicalization”
    Its obvious he’s not a radical, a radical murders tens of people while this one murdered ‘just’ one.
    This is a normal moderate Muslim.

  17. Veritas says

    Aug 4, 2016 at 10:36 am

    If nothing is going to be done about Islamic extremists, will the authorities address the issue of delusional people pretending to represent Allah targeting the psychologically disturbed?

    • Georg says

      Aug 4, 2016 at 10:45 am

      No

    • WorkingClassPost says

      Aug 4, 2016 at 10:47 am

      Yes, I think you’ve spotted the authorities next response.

      Instead of armed police patrolling our streets, they’ll soon be saying we really need armies of psychiatrists in white coats walking round looking for mentally disturbed knifemen, van drivers, rapists etc.

      That’ll fix it.

      • gravenimage says

        Aug 4, 2016 at 3:43 pm

        Yup:

        “Robert Spencer on the global outbreak of mental illness”

        https://www.jihadwatch.org/2016/06/video-robert-spencer-on-the-global-outbreak-of-mental-illness

      • Carolyne says

        Aug 5, 2016 at 9:38 am

        Well, they already have Major Hassan. That’s a start although he will have to go around in his wheel chair.

  18. Norwegian says

    Aug 4, 2016 at 10:39 am

    The norwegian media has the same stupid headlines today..

    “KNIFEMAN WAS NORWEGIAN”

    Just when you think they have reached rock bottom low…they always seem to find a lower pit to crawl into ???

    • mustapha crap says

      Aug 4, 2016 at 1:06 pm

      Oh no he wasn’t! He is a Somali who migrated to Norway and then into Britain, he is no more a Norwegian than I am a Martian, he is first and foremost a MUSLIM and MUSLIMS attack Non Muslims it is what they do, and have done for the last 1400 years and will continue to do unless we in the west grow some balls and eradicate the vile scourge of Islam throughout the entire world

    • Alvin Woods says

      Aug 4, 2016 at 1:43 pm

      He lived in Norway 5 years. Ages 0-5. Then moved to the UK. How was he not branded as a Briton but a Norweigan?

      Im in the wrong business. I Should’ve just pretended to be a middle easter refugee, crossed the border illegally then spent the rest of my life jetsetting across Europe on the tax payers dime. Free this free that. What a bunch of lame sheep we are.

      If we could choose where our individual taxes go then oh my god, the refugee racket would be over in a matter of days.

      • Johan Elzinga says

        Aug 4, 2016 at 5:49 pm

        Some of our asylum seekers have been found to have been on holiday to their country of origin, Somalia. The responsible minister of the Dutch parliament promised that “their cases will be closely monitored”. So, not only free meals and a free house, a free holiday as well to the country they “escaped” from.

        • Alvin Woods says

          Aug 4, 2016 at 9:01 pm

          That happens regularly. Fake refugees expoliting the system. Flying home to visit relatives. So much for refugee status.
          In fact many fly back to marry, then fly back with entire relatives or their relatives come over at a later date claiming refugee status.

          Thanks for bringing this to light. Im not sure many realise that this refugee asylum policy is a racket, a con job.

        • WillG says

          Aug 5, 2016 at 10:07 am

          The same in the UK, a country they claim is too dangerous to be sent back to – but thousands have been caught flying back to Somalia to have their daughters butchered through Female Genital Mutilation by professional “cutters”, then returning to the UK to pick up their next welfare payments. Despicable savages.

        • gravenimage says

          Aug 5, 2016 at 6:12 pm

          True, Johan. If they were *really* asylum-seeking refugees, they would not be using their welfare money to go back on holiday to the place they fled from. Just more fooling the credulous Kuffar…

  19. WorkingClassPost says

    Aug 4, 2016 at 10:41 am

    Which would you prefer:-

    A lone ravenous wolf inside your house,
    or
    A pack of equally ravenous wolves living in another land?

    Hmm, that’s a tough one…

    • WorkingClassPost says

      Aug 4, 2016 at 10:41 am

      Almost forgot Merkel’s favorite: –

      Many packs of ravenous wolves running wild, inside, outside, and all around our houses.

  20. grace says

    Aug 4, 2016 at 10:42 am

    And I read on ABC news anti discrimination laws prevent us from discussing islam. Yeah, good timing.

    • Alvin Woods says

      Aug 4, 2016 at 9:03 pm

      What laws? Australian?

  21. Michael Copeland says

    Aug 4, 2016 at 10:49 am

    The killer is muslim.
    Islamic State has urged muslims in Europe to make knife attacks.
    The Koran instructs “when you meet the unbeliever strike the necks” (47:4).
    the Koran’s teachings are “universal and trans-time”, “valid from eternity to eternity”.

    The UK’s police, government, and media continue this absurd and irresponsible dance.

  22. Marty says

    Aug 4, 2016 at 10:58 am

    What is this “radicalisation” garbage ?
    Devout mohammedans kill those with whom they disagree.
    In the UK there are about 4 million mohammedans, & most are
    useless citizens.
    There are some decent “secular muslims”, essentially ex muslims.
    But devout muslims are all potential killers or supporters of same.
    What the hell was a Somali/Norwegian doing in London ?
    Already the media are branding him a madman.
    If he was not a mohammedan, they’d call him a terrorist.
    Most muslims are radical. Most are capable of terrorism & most support it.
    They don’t need “radicalisation”.

    • overman says

      Aug 4, 2016 at 1:22 pm

      Well said.

      Lots of good comments here.

      l believe the Mail Online said he came from Norway to UK when he was 5. Doesn’t matter where he was born, he was still a Somali-Muslim.

      • Alvin Woods says

        Aug 4, 2016 at 1:38 pm

        Don’t forget, he was also a BRITON. /

        • gravenimage says

          Aug 4, 2016 at 3:45 pm

          Actually, he was neither Norwegian nor British.

          His only allegiance was to the vicious Ummah of Islam.

    • Raja says

      Aug 5, 2016 at 12:38 pm

      IMarty, I agree with you. They are radicalized when they are toddlers. Islam is supreme, West is eivl, Christianity is perverted, all non muslims deserve to die, Pope is the biggest evil on the face of the earth, Islam is the oldest religion on earth and the list is endless. They are simply supremacist with no brains as they lose their brains after reading /reciting the Koran and of course the brainwashing.

      The left and the west are clueless and it is high time they learnt some lessons from Israel. It is much better to be Islam-free like Japan

  23. Ali Bey says

    Aug 4, 2016 at 11:00 am

    According to some witnesses, this Allahuakbarian was shouting imprecations whilst performing his attack, but so far I haven,t read which were his words, what surely would confirm the islamist motives of the act. Also the media says that the attack was “at random”. That was another euphemism frequently used trying to make believe that the attacks are not planned, .

    • Georg says

      Aug 4, 2016 at 11:12 am

      Like when Obama spoke of the terrorist targeting Hyper Cacher kosher deli in Paris as “randomly shooting people”.

      However, unlike when Obama spoke of the Chapel Hill killings where three Muslims were shot when he said, before any investigation had proceeded, “No one should be targeted for their faith”.

      • Kay says

        Aug 4, 2016 at 11:26 am

        Somehow when O speaks, people believe it, even though it isn’t the truth. I don’t get it.

        (Also, the news stories look like they tried to find the CH shooter was anti-Muslim but couldn’t; he was anti-Christian and said that the Middle East should be atheist. But that’s all I saw.)

      • Michael Casmer says

        Aug 5, 2016 at 9:28 pm

        and if Obama had a son he would look like this guy

    • Keith says

      Aug 4, 2016 at 1:39 pm

      I have noticed that those random attacks in the west NEVER seem to randomly kill a muslim. I wonder why that is if they are random attacks?

      • Alvin Woods says

        Aug 5, 2016 at 10:35 am

        Exactly. At least someone os pointing this out.

        At the least the press shouldve, by their standards, presented this as a possibly racial hate crime attack against whites. But it wasnt. It went from possible terrorism straight to mental illness. Bypassing hate crimes and terrorism as the cause.

        White man goes on a rampage targetting ethnic minorities its branded as either racism or terrorism. Never mental illness.

        Complete double standards.

        Disclaimer. ***And yes, I do know this somalian is a muslim, this was a jihad attack and there are white muslims. *****

  24. Jack Diamond says

    Aug 4, 2016 at 11:03 am

    He needs an official ISIS badge and secret society decoder pin to be considered properly radicalized. Since such an attack must never have anything to do with friendly, friendly wonderful Islam and our protected class (Muslims), it can only be due to brainwashing by the non-Islamic Islamic State; being crazy as a loon; or a natural result of alienation and hurt feelings which is solely the fault of Britain. Perhaps it’s the proliferation of knives at fault. The BBC might as well be Pravda. War? We don’t see any war here. And if you see a war we’re coming after you.

    A Muslim? A Somali Muslim? What me worry?

    • Johan Elzinga says

      Aug 4, 2016 at 5:38 pm

      You are absolutely right. This thing that authorities and news agents are doing to make it seem that an attack had nothing to do with islam or refugees would be hilariously funny if it were not so harmful to society. These days it takes weeks before the police admits onclusion is that is considered “an attack” that was “intentional”. What else should it be, an accident? Sorry my knife slipt from my hands and killed three people?

      • dumbledoresarmy says

        Aug 5, 2016 at 6:02 am

        I wonder whether it would be possible for somebody, or more than one, in the Resistance, to cobble together a comic skit – using puppets, say, or stick-figure animations, or a group of actors in really basic costumes, a bit like in that old show ‘the Goodies’ – to depict this whole crazy denial routine we’re now getting.

        But find some way to represent it allegorically. Must be possible.

        Pop-up street theatre?

        Youtube clips?

        • Alvin Woods says

          Aug 5, 2016 at 12:49 pm

          I put together a short video. Published it on youtube. Black comedy portraying the far left and muslims as zombies. It was great. People loved it and hated it. Over time i forgot my throwaway email and youtube name. Duh! I still try and find it but its lost in the ether.
          It has a clip of michael moore and twin towers collapsing with canned laughter. Very cynical towards western societies approach to our own potential downfall.

          Some of the left wingers comments were telling, saying I should be locked up, or im sick in the head etc.

          If anyone can find it i’ll buy them a beer or 2.

          It may have been deleted though.

        • gravenimage says

          Aug 5, 2016 at 6:31 pm

          Frustrating, Alvin. I’ll keep my eye out for it.

          I agree with DDA–we need to get more information out there, and humor works very well.

          There’s some guy in England who does *hilarious* animated videos–but he doesn’t even use a non de plume, so they are very difficult to find.

  25. Kay says

    Aug 4, 2016 at 11:13 am

    Makes sense that Islam would want to get black US gangs to think they support them. They could be a force to contend with. If successful, they’ll use the black gangs for their own purposes, and at the same time make sure the gangs aren’t fighting against them . . . until they turn on them.

    • dumbledoresarmy says

      Aug 5, 2016 at 6:03 am

      Mohammed recruited the 6th-century equivalent of gang members, back in the day.

  26. Angemon says

    Aug 4, 2016 at 11:16 am

    Police arrested a 19-year-old Norwegian national of Somali origin.

    Really? A journalist and an editor couldn’t figure out what’s wrong with that statement?

    • Alvin Woods says

      Aug 4, 2016 at 1:37 pm

      He was also a UK resident, so why didn’t the enemedia label it as a” Norweigan Briton of Somali origin”?

      • Jack Diamond says

        Aug 4, 2016 at 1:49 pm

        He’s been in the UK since 2002, since he was five! But, once a Viking always a Viking.

        • Alvin Woods says

          Aug 4, 2016 at 2:23 pm

          Brevik connection? :/

        • Jack Diamond says

          Aug 4, 2016 at 2:33 pm

          I was being facetious about the vikings. Muhammad connection.

        • gravenimage says

          Aug 4, 2016 at 4:00 pm

          I knew you were being sarcastic, Jack.

      • JawsV says

        Aug 4, 2016 at 2:35 pm

        On the News this morning he was described as a “Norwegian National of Somali descent.” That’s when I knew it was a Mohammedan.

  27. Dum Spiro says

    Aug 4, 2016 at 11:26 am

    For some reason I thought of what had happened to Theo van Gogh:

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2004/nov/07/terrorism.religion

    http://www.city-journal.org/html/why-theo-van-gogh-was-murdered-10071.html

    Maybe there is some counterjihad protocol that could get into the formative minds of teenaged Muslim males…
    — Spero

    • Dum Spiro says

      Aug 4, 2016 at 11:42 am

      I found this article and its map to be interesting, too:

      http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2016/07/19/5-facts-about-the-muslim-population-in-europe/

      You see the correlation between instances of jihad and the overall percentage of Muslims in a country…
      — Spero

      • Kay says

        Aug 4, 2016 at 1:51 pm

        Interesting. Just a question– how to explain that we aren’t hearing of attacks in Bulgaria and Greece?

    • Kay says

      Aug 4, 2016 at 2:24 pm

      So that was 12 years ago, a time in my personal life that made following the news impossible.
      Were any “tough measures” put into place? Or is everything worse as it seems?

      • dumbledoresarmy says

        Aug 5, 2016 at 6:23 am

        Kay – look up the Jihadwatch archives, from 2004. I think you’d find it interesting.

        The case came up and was discussed here, right as it happened; indeed, there were Dutch people posting here who were *on the spot*.

        Here’s the link to the first item, when the story *broke*.

        https://www.jihadwatch.org/2004/11/theo-van-gogh-maker-of-submission-shot-dead-in-amsterdam

        And here, from the comments thread, is a Dutch jihadwatcher.

        “The assassination happened around the corner from where I live in Amsterdam Oost. I arrived on the scene five minutes after they killed Theo, as I was on my way to buy some bread with my two year old. I saw his body, with the knives still in it, covered with white linnen. Like this:
        http://www.geenstijl.nl/paginas/theolaken.jpg
        I informed Jihadwatch within the hour.
        I knew Theo very well. He was the nicest guy. I worked with him at a radio station, ten years ago. He lived around the corner, and never wanted to be surrounded by body guards, like Hirsi Ali and Wilders.
The police took his son out of the class room this morning to tell his father is dead. God bless Lieuwe.
        Politicians now talk about societal problems, and that society is getting more violent. Off course, they don’t talk about a war that is going on for 1400 years.
        The guy who did it was wearing a djallaba, and has a long beard. After he shot Theo seven times, Theo was stabbed. On the knive a letter, or holy scriptures.
        Every year 30.000 muslim immigrants arrive in my country.
        
God bless professor Fortuyn.
        God bless Theo van Gogh.”
        Posted by: martin from amsterdam at November 2, 2004 6:55 AM

        Another interesting thing: iin the same thread you will see a couple of the Dutch posters informing other – non-Dutch – commenters about Geert Wilders, who at that point was really only known to his fellow Dutch and didn’t have an international ‘recognition factor’.

        • Alvin Woods says

          Aug 5, 2016 at 7:30 am

          Dumble

          Im not seeing comments from this theo thread?

        • dumbledoresarmy says

          Aug 5, 2016 at 8:36 am

          Kay

          sorry about that. ‘Alvin’ just mentioned not seeing any comments on that archived article about Theo Van Gogh.

          it’s really odd, because there were *heaps* of really interesting and excellent comments attached to the article. Luckily I *saved* them all when I was first exploring the archives, ages ago (having discovered jihadwatch late in 2006, I went and *read the archives* and at that stage every posted article had its complete quota of comments firmly attached. And everything I thought interesting, I *copied and saved* on my own computer, in masses of e-clippings files). And the sample comments I put up here were from the relevant clippings file.

          But perhaps the older threads and earliest lots of comments have now been LOST?? – failed to ‘roll over’, or something, as the site has changed its security regs? That would be sad, because many of them were good and added extra info, and Spencer’s friend Hugh Fitzgerald put a *lot* of effort into comments at the coalface, especially in the earlier years of jihadwatch. I’d hate to think they’ve all gone down the ‘memory hole’.

          Shoutout to ‘marc’, Mr Spencer’s tech adviser/ IT Mr Fixit – **what HAPPENED to the archived Comments threads? Did they all get lost, somewhere along the way?”

        • gravenimage says

          Aug 5, 2016 at 6:46 pm

          Alvin and DDA–I some of the older posts are no longer with the stories they commented on on Jihad Watch–not sure why.

          I know that Hesperado at one time had a piece on his blog where he noted how one accessed these comments, but I haven’t been able to find it. I’ll keep looking.

          And, of course, the comments from the “Intense Debate” period of several years ago are lost–unless one knows the name of the commenter, and looks them up that way.

          For instance, here are my comments–hundreds of them–from that period:

          http://intensedebate.com/people/gravenimage

          I know for myself, I consider the comments sections–inspiring posts, additional information, debates between Anti-Jihadists, and rejoinders to Muslim trolls–to be in many cases as important and enlightening as the stories themselves.

        • gravenimage says

          Aug 5, 2016 at 6:48 pm

          That should have been “I know some of the older posts…”

        • gravenimage says

          Aug 5, 2016 at 7:15 pm

          Hesperado has a piece on his blog now as to how to access these comments. His piece is here:

          http://hesperado.blogspot.com/2016/08/the-counter-jihad-community-working.html

          Sadly, in it he specifically smears Dumbledore’s Army, myself, and several other regular posters here by name.

          I know that I *never* called for his banning, and that, despite his abusive nature, I often defended his analysis here.

          In any case, I appreciate his work here. He lists the process for accessing old comments here:

          1) First, ascertain the date of the Jihad Watch article in question.

          2) Go to the “Wayback Machine” — a comprehensive archive of the Internet.

          3) Paste in the Jihad Watch URL into their search box.

          4) From there, go to the month and year from #1.

          5) The Wayback Machine will display Jihad Watch recovery pages by months — but usually only a few days out of a given month are accessible. But this is not as bad as it seems. All one has to do, if your date is not highlighted on the Wayback Machine month squares for Jihad Watch, is select a date near it — select a date that is later in time (i.e., more recent) because when you open a Jihad Watch page from yesteryear, you’ll notice that the articles above are more recent than the articles below. Once you select an article that may be, say a week later than the one you want, just scroll downwards until you find the right title. The comments thread should be there, intact as it always was.

          Let’s try it now, with the article dumbledoresarmy suppled: https://www.jihadwatch.org/2004/11/theo-van-gogh-maker-of-submission-shot-dead-in-amsterdam

          We can see that the title is “Theo Van Gogh, maker of Submission, shot dead in Amsterdam” and that the posting date is November 2, 2004.

          Now we go to the Wayback Machine: https://www.jihadwatch.org/

          We select the year, 2004.

          We look for November… we see that, as expected, the precise day, November 2, is not available. So now we select a date more recent — the nearest one is November 4. It happens to take us to an article at the end of November 3. No matter. All we need to do is keep scrolling downwards until we find the precise article we’re looking for — “Theo Van Gogh, maker of Submission, shot dead in Amsterdam”.

          Interestingly, one finds that the story is at “Dhimmi Watch” — which formerly, was an adjunct website attached to Jihad Watch, but on a separate stream. Fortunately, Spencer posted a note in the Jihad Watch stream we are browsing indicating this, with a link. We click on that link, and voilà! — we are there. And all of the comments which dumbledoresarmy mentioned, and whose sudden absence she worried over, are there, preserved as if in amber.

          You’re welcome.
          ……………………………..

          Hesperado, if you should read this, despite your vicious calumny of my character, I *do* thank you for your efforts here.

        • gravenimage says

          Aug 5, 2016 at 10:20 pm

          I did leave a comment at Hesperdo’s site thanking him for his efforts here, but it was either lost–or more likely–removed.

        • Mirren10 says

          Sep 27, 2016 at 9:56 am

          ”I did leave a comment at Hesperdo’s site thanking him for his efforts here, but it was either lost–or more likely–removed.”

          He has the utter **gall** to say he never censors comments, or removes them. Faugh.

        • gravenimage says

          Sep 27, 2016 at 2:04 pm

          True, Mirren.

          In fact, he has been grandstanding over his supposed championing of freedom of speech in showcasing antisemitic comments at his site, and falsely claiming that in my taking issue with his being approvingly characterized as an antisemite by a Jew-hating poster that I was calling for that poster to be censored.

          Of course, responding to speech does not negate freedom of speech.

          In any case, I only reposted this on a more recent thread because the issue of retrieving old JW comments came up again, and I wanted–despite all of Hesperado’s nastiness–to give technical credit where it was due.

    • gravenimage says

      Aug 4, 2016 at 4:02 pm

      The savage slaughter of Theo van Gogh was just one of the earliest of these Jihad murders.

    • Johan Elzinga says

      Aug 4, 2016 at 5:54 pm

      Mind you the killer of mr Fortuyn, the leader of the anti islam party in the Netherlands, has been released early. He has benn free for several years now. So please come to this country and kill a number of politicians at will, you’ ll be out and about and free before you know it!

      • gravenimage says

        Aug 4, 2016 at 9:07 pm

        The murderer of Pim Fortuyn is out free, Johan? My God, I did not know that.

        Yes–I checked–you are right. The killer in this case was a Muslim apologist who hated Pim Fortuyn’s concern over the rising threat of Jihad. He got 18 years–ridiculously short for premeditated assassination–but only served two-thirds of that. He was convicted in 2003 and released in 2014.

        He is now suing the state on the conditions of his parole being ‘too restrictive’. As a result, he no longer has any travel restrictions, and his ankle bracelet has been removed. Utter madness…

        • Alvin Woods says

          Aug 4, 2016 at 10:47 pm

          This is fking outrageous. Political terrorist murderer out in 11 years???

        • Kay says

          Aug 4, 2016 at 11:15 pm

          It is outrageous.

          The murderer of Father Jacques had his bracelet turned off for hours each day, which he took advantage of for murder.

          Certainly that tactic (no bracelet) has already been proved a failure.

        • gravenimage says

          Aug 5, 2016 at 6:50 pm

          This *is* outrageous.

  28. davej says

    Aug 4, 2016 at 11:36 am

    Early report on NPR called him “a Norwegian of Somali descent”.

    A few hours later the “of Somali descent” was dropped and he became a “Norwegian”.

    Cowardly media and deceptive Police.

  29. Myxlplik says

    Aug 4, 2016 at 11:42 am

    Wait, when I went to bed the press had me convinced that he was a Latino gang member! That made so much sence because there is so much machismo in knifing old women in the back, look, that’s just not going to happen he’d be killed by his fellows for being scum. A Muslim however would be praised for spreading terror amongst the infidels.

    The press just loves to throw out false theories to confuse people, I’m sure they will add, bullied, and poverty to mentally Ill soon.

  30. R Cole says

    Aug 4, 2016 at 12:11 pm

    Police – ‘no evidence of radicalisation’ – when they caught him he looked like a normal boy!!

  31. spac says

    Aug 4, 2016 at 12:18 pm

    I CANT BELIEVE THIS …,MAINSTREAM MEDIA HAS BECOME A GARBAGE …BBC ,BETTER YOU STOP JOURNALISM AND GO FOR SHAVING JOB TO MIDDLE EAST …SO IS THE CASE WITH THE WESTERN AUTHORITIES ….THE EUROPEAN LEADERS HAS BECOME THE MAIN SUPPORTERS OF ISIS ….WHENEVER ISIS DO A HORRENDOUS THING THEY TURN UP QUICKLY WITH SOME STORIES LIKE “INTENTION NOT CLEAR”, MENTAL STABILITY IS IN DOUBT …!!!! HORRIBLE AND SO MASOCHISTIC

    • William says

      Aug 4, 2016 at 1:10 pm

      It’s not only journalists. It’s also the police. Every arm of the governing structure is involved in the sham, from the top to the bottom, from the Pope, the Queen, down to the lowly bureaucrat and the patrol policeman. Every striking one.

  32. Crusades Were Right! says

    Aug 4, 2016 at 12:27 pm

    “Mental health issues”
    Applies more to the UK authorities and mass media, than to the jihadis!

  33. Alvin Woods says

    Aug 4, 2016 at 12:36 pm

    Blamed on mental illness.

    Not terrorism nor at the least, Racism.

    But mental illness.

    Imagine a white person going on a knife rampage in an ethnic area of London, Brick Lane or Harlesden, targetting ethnic minorities, would the attacker be simply branded as being “mentall ill”?
    No, it would be called a racist hate crime.

    But, a Somalian attacks whites and its mental illness.

    The enemedia needs shutting down. Report the story, drop the politcal propaganda or be shut down unless a disclaimer is posted in large print warning viewers that what they are reading is fiction not fact.

    • Johan Elzinga says

      Aug 4, 2016 at 5:57 pm

      You forgot to mention that he had a bad childhood. That MUST have been the main reason!

    • dumbledoresarmy says

      Aug 5, 2016 at 6:32 am

      Alvin – It’s not ‘a Somalian attacks whites’.

      The relevant point here is ideological. He could just as easily have been an Albanian (white) or Chechen (white) Muslim, or an Anglo Brit *convert to Islam* (like the bloke who tried to blow up a restaurant in the UK and only succeeded in injuring *himself*).

      It was a *Muslim* (colour irrelevant, ethnicity irrelevant except only in that, once his ethnicity was indicated, the likelihood that he was *Muslim* became almost 90 percent certain, since Somalis were Islamised centuries ago and virtually every ethnic Somali is, therefore, a Muslim) attacking *non-Muslims*.

      It was an ideologically-inspired hate crime; animated by the hatred that the Islamic trilogy inculcates in the cult members, toward all non-adherents.

      • Alvin Woods says

        Aug 5, 2016 at 7:19 am

        I get your point dumbledore but my point is that the media ignored the jihad aspect and chose mental illness. They didnt even touch on the possibility that this couldve been a racist hate crime.
        It went from possible terrorism to mental illness.

        Not possible terrorism to possible racism to mental illness.

        • Alvin Woods says

          Aug 5, 2016 at 7:23 am

          Its like the media are so lazy now, why bother even going with the racism angle when they know it was another jihad attack.

          Simply go straight to mental illness, it gives them an easier life. No wucking forries.

      • gravenimage says

        Aug 5, 2016 at 6:59 pm

        Very true, DDA–this is about ideology, not race. The Tsarnaev brothers–who bombed the Boston Marathon–were white, and many of the victims of Islam are “people of color” in places like Nigeria. Jihadists of all ethnicities target Infidels of any color.

  34. William says

    Aug 4, 2016 at 1:03 pm

    Watching the West respond to the Mohammedan attacks is like watching a puppet show (yes, a puppet show, because the reactions of the players attacked aren’t like those of real human beings) in which the puppeteers are acting out a farce merging into a tragicomedy.

    • Crusades Were Right! says

      Aug 5, 2016 at 10:19 am

      “puppet show”
      Punch & Jihadi!
      ; ¬)

      • Bela Csakany says

        Aug 5, 2016 at 11:14 am

        Puppet show? I was thinking Petrushka!

  35. Willg says

    Aug 4, 2016 at 1:23 pm

    While the media and politicians desperately try to cover for the killer and Islam, who speaks for the tragic, innocent victim? She was someone’s daughter, mother, sister, aunt, friend. Yet another family devastated by Islamic violence. She would have left the US happy and looking forward to a holiday in Europe – where she dies at the hands of a deranged Somali Muslim in a London park. The West can’t go on like this.

    • WorkingClassPost says

      Aug 4, 2016 at 1:44 pm

      Doncha know that muslims are the real victims, always.

  36. Alvin Woods says

    Aug 4, 2016 at 1:35 pm

    You can guarantee that once these bastard jihadist start bombing the elites and politicians and Hollywood and the enemedia then it will be game over.

    Until then the plebs are like lambs on the sacrificial alter of political correctness.

    The sooner we rid ourselves of this burden of socialism and soft totalitarianism the sooner we can start enjoying true freedom.

  37. overman says

    Aug 4, 2016 at 1:37 pm

    Of course, very little mention of the fact that this took place where the 7/7 Bombing took place – that’s just pure coincidence.

    • Alvin Woods says

      Aug 4, 2016 at 1:47 pm

      Of course. Just a bit of spontaneous murder by a Norweigan in central London. Nothing to see here, totally normal for a really good night out in London. /

    • gravenimage says

      Aug 4, 2016 at 4:13 pm

      Thanks for pointing that out, overman.

  38. WorkingClassPost says

    Aug 4, 2016 at 1:47 pm

    Well now it’s clear.

    All this time we’ve been worried about muslim terrorists, but it’s really Viking invaders that are the problem.

    • Johan Elzinga says

      Aug 4, 2016 at 5:44 pm

      Don’t, please don’t give them any ideas. The media might use that next time, I’ m serious!

  39. Mumstheword says

    Aug 4, 2016 at 1:50 pm

    There is NOTHING you can believe any longer from the European and US media. They all have an agenda or are way to busy trying to be PC and are afraid to tell the truth. And of course the London stabbing would suppressed by the new Muslim London Mayor…hello…..that’s pretty clear.

    I saw one blatant example this morning of how the media is slanting and carefully wording the truth while watching Fox News this morning they mentioned it but no other news online that I can find in the USA with any mainstream news organization……how pathetic that even with a video online that shows the full truth with sound concerning the bus attack in France it has been hidden and down played. Just check the links and see how the truth has morphed via the obvious changing of the truth by the media…

    This is the link to the actual video and you can hear the Muslim attackers yelling Allah Akbar: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxuxR7iPhzY&feature=share

    Then the news stories links where you see the lie….

    https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/1551376/shocking-moment-gang-torches-bus-carrying-15-people-in-black-lives-matter-style-protest-in-paris-saint-denis-over-death-of-suspect-in-custody/

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3722765/Bus-torched-street-gang-brandishing-Molotov-cocktails-riots-against-police-racism-rage-troubled-suburb-Paris.html

  40. overman says

    Aug 4, 2016 at 1:58 pm

    “A 19-year-old man was arrested at the scene after being tasered by police in Russell Square – just yards from where the 7/7 attacks bus bomb detonated in 2005. One witness described seeing another man ‘flee from the scene on a motorbike”

    • Georg says

      Aug 4, 2016 at 9:40 pm

      “One witness described seeing another man ‘flee from the scene on a motorbike”

      Another mentally ill.

  41. overman says

    Aug 4, 2016 at 2:23 pm

    This is there theory now. ISIS is using ‘mentally ill’ ppl to carry out attacks. The attackers are no longer ‘Jihadi’s’ or ‘muslims’ – just ‘Psycho’s’ with no ldeology or belief-system. And certainly no interest in lslamic Terrorism.

    “Knife attack raises fears of Isis targeting people with mental health problems

    THE Russell Square knife attack follows warnings that Islamic State may be targeting people with mental health problems to inspire them to carry out such incidents”.

    • Bela Csakany says

      Aug 4, 2016 at 9:59 pm

      In first post above you mention,”a man fleeing the scene on a motorbike”. In the initial reports I read that two men of “middle eastern appearance” left the scene in different directions, one on foot, the other on a motorbike. My first thought was the attacker was mentally disturbed, and was being used as a weapon, and the other two were his handlers.

  42. Markk says

    Aug 4, 2016 at 2:59 pm

    Total BS story at the BBC site.
    1 individuals name is never said – even odds it’s Mo
    2 Guy comes from Norway at age 5 to live in UK – he’s a Norwegian national?
    3. Suddenly he is mentally ill, yet no mention of counseling, diagnosis, special schools etc
    4 BBC even takes pains to talk about knife crime statistics at end of story as additional smile screen.
    5 Yet even though it’s sudden mental illness syndrome in same article it’s mentioned police presence is being increased dramatically
    6. Shouldn’t Londay deploy an army of psychiatrists instead since the are better trained to deal with “mental illness”?

  43. Norwegian says

    Aug 4, 2016 at 3:33 pm

    It needs to stop. This stupid wordism…

    “Radicalization”
    “Radical islam”
    “Radical muslims”
    “Islamists”

    Call it what it is!

    MUSLIMS and ISLAM!!!

    • WorkingClassPost says

      Aug 4, 2016 at 3:40 pm

      You radical Norwegians are all the same.

      ?

  44. El Cid says

    Aug 4, 2016 at 4:40 pm

    Hey Robert, It’s not ‘radical’, it’s ‘tradition. words, words, words….

  45. rolf wittwer says

    Aug 4, 2016 at 5:58 pm

    This Killer too, only did like to play with our Culture and wanted to remind us, who is the “NEW MASTER OF LONDON”.

    • Norwegian says

      Aug 4, 2016 at 6:05 pm

      Pft..

      Muslims can not be masters of anything. Unless we let them…give them a bit of resistance and they run….

      ???

  46. TheBuffster says

    Aug 4, 2016 at 9:42 pm

    Dear God, I know an American woman who’s visiting London right now. She’s 60 years old. I sure hope it wasn’t her. 🙁

    • Alvin Woods says

      Aug 4, 2016 at 10:43 pm

      From Florida? The victim has been named. I don’t want to post her name on here out of respect. But she is from Florida.

    • dumbledoresarmy says

      Aug 5, 2016 at 6:35 am

      The victim in the London attack was *64*; a retired teacher; married (husband was with her at the time).

  47. Rob says

    Aug 5, 2016 at 1:10 am

    It gets more absurd by the day. We have evil running the world. Here’s my song called ‘Nothing to do with islam’. Enjoy!

  48. Dom107 says

    Aug 5, 2016 at 6:10 am

    We are now in the situation of having to play the “Death Lottery”every time we walk the street or go somewhere.Who is going to be the next sacrifice on the altar of multiculturalism.Governments and some of the media have brought us to this point by getting involved with cultures who are unlikely to become civilised in the next 2000 years.Remember Cameron rushing off to Egypt when the “Arab Spring ” first started to see if he could exploit it in someway.Afghanistan,Iraq,Libya,,Syria,George W Bush,Tony Blair.A catalogue of failure.Our governments never learn that Muslims and their countries of origin are best left alone unless they directly threaten us. The Syrian leader was never a threat to us so it was none of our business.Allowing Muslims who are toxic to our societies and cultures should never be allowed in.This should be totally obvious to all but our Christian ethos is under the naive impression that if you are nice and try to help the Muslims they will appreciate it and not resort to the murderous activity which the Qur’an teaches.
    Where do we go from here?It will have to be sorted at the political level.
    It is now a damage limitation exercise.Germany and Sweden the two biggest “sucker” countries need to adopt the policies of Hungary so the people will have to elect rulers with courage and determination to do what is necessary.No more Muslim immigration whether so called refugees,economic immigrants,illegal immigration.No surrender or pandering to home grown Muslims,deportation of hate clerics.
    Stop the “euphemism” of mental illness to avoid recognising jihadism for what it is.The task is huge so pressure from the people must be strong and relentless and above all don’t vote for government you know will not address the problem.The future must be ours not Islam’s version of hell !!

  49. dumbledoresarmy says

    Aug 5, 2016 at 8:59 am

    General observation.

    Alvin, above, said he couldn’t see any Comments on the archived story of the murder of Theo Van Gogh.

    I have checked, and then I have done some more checking.

    It is no longer possible to see or read *any* comments made prior to January 2014.

    I can only assume that in one or the other of the “rollovers” or in this or that cyber attack the eleven years’ worth of comments made between 2003 and December 2013 have all evaporated into the ether or been otherwise destroyed.

    This means that any person googling, say, Jihadwatch and Theo Van Gogh will find the news story with Mr Spencer’s parenthetical remarks/ commentary but will NOT find ANY of the additional information supplied by, for example, Dutch jihadwatchers at the time.

    Gone, gone, gone, gone, gone.

    I hope I’m wrong.

    But it surely looks like it. The only parts of the archives that include the ‘comments as well as the articles are the past three years’ worth; and for all I know, the articles there, too, will lose their attached comments threads after a year or two or three. So: it appears now that what you or I or anyone else writes here, now, will be read by others only within a two-three year window; hen it will vanish.

    I felt a bit silly piling up my massive archive of e-clippings, every time someone wrote something that I thought worth keeping.

    But now I know it was worth it. I was able to revisit, just now, the discussion that ensued here when the news of Theo Van Gogh’s death first broke. But I can’t do that anywhere except in my clippings file (unless somebody knows how to use tools such as the ‘wayback’ machine).

    • Alvin Woods says

      Aug 5, 2016 at 9:35 am

      Thanks for keeping those Dumbledore

    • gravenimage says

      Aug 5, 2016 at 7:17 pm

      Alvin and DDA, I tracked down the comments threads. Detailed at my post above:

      https://www.jihadwatch.org/2016/08/uk-muslim-kills-one-wounds-5-in-stabbings-cops-say-no-evidence-of-radicalisation/comment-page-1#comment-1496371

  50. Holo says

    Aug 5, 2016 at 9:54 am

    I wrote this to BBC World News this morning:
    Dear BBC Team,
    You keep repeating that the man who attacked 6 people with a knife and killed one in London has not been radicalised!
    He is Somali and so most likely Muslim, and all a Muslim has to do to become radicalised is to read the Koran! And they don’t just read it once, but keep re-reading it, their imams keep quoting it, many are expected to learn it by heart, so that they become brainwashed. In the Koran there is the commandment, “kill the infidels” over 100 times, so naturally followers of Islam become radicalised.
    This is why Islam has to be reformed, cutting out of the Koran and other Islamic holy books all incitements to murder and violence. Besides, imams must declare fatwas on terrorists, on any Muslim committing murder, and they must repeat and repeat that murderers will not go to paradise but burn in hell forever.

    • Iftikhar Ahmad says

      Aug 5, 2016 at 5:48 pm

      Prophet Muhammad PBUH was ranked at the first place by Michael Hart. If Islam is violent why more and more Europeans embracing Islam ? Neither Quran nor Bible is violent both teaches humanity peace respect tolerance and brotherhood. Religion can never be bad, no religion was based on violence, only mankind is violent. God/Allah is love. You just choose some texts from holy books about violence. How about democratic governments when they attack other nations, bomb them, kill civilians, children, women … etc. destroying a whole community for resources in the name of fighting terror, Isn’t that more violence than the books you are talking about. for god sake leave religions aside and be humans ( democratic governments).

      An analysis into whether the Quran is more violent than the Bible found killing and destruction occur more frequently in the Christian texts than the Islamic. Investigating whether the Quran really is more violent than its Judeo-Christian counterparts, software engineer Tom Anderson processed the text of the Holy books to find which contained the most violence. In the just war allowed in Islam, it is forbidden to kill innocent children, women and unarmed people, or to burn crops, destroy the means of living, torture the captives, or mutilate the dead bodies under any circumstance. If the enemies of Islam call for peace, Islam urges Muslims to accept and to decline war and enter into peace immediately with them. Neither Bible or Quran violent they are heaven books from Allah. God didn’t make people violent God gives people the right to be good or bad and evil so in the judgment day in other life God rewards the good and punishes the evil

      Allah does not forbid you as regards those who did not fight you on account of faith, and did not expel you from your homes, that you do good to them, and deal justly with them. Surely Allah loves those who maintain justice.” [al-Qur’an: 60:8] Islam does allow self-defence and retribution to the extent of wrong done to a Muslim individual or society but it does not allow pre-emptive aggression. The prophet Muhammad peace be upon him said I was sent only as a mercy. “If someone entrusts a person with his life and then that person killed him then I am clear of the killer even if the victim is a disbeliever” (Nisa’i) “He who harms a non Muslim harms me, and he who harms me harms Allah.” (At Tabarani) The Prophet stated in his contract with the Christians of Najran, “No man from among them may be held accountable for the violations of another of his fellows.” (Abu Yusuf in Alkharaj)

      In a blog post, Mr Anderson explains: “The project was inspired by the on going public debate around whether or not terrorism connected with Islamic fundamentalism reflects something inherently and distinctly violent about Islam compared to other major religions.” Using text analytics software he had developed, named Odin Text, he analysed both the New International Version of both the Old and New Testaments as well as an English-language version of the Quran from 1957. It took just two minutes for his software to read and analyse the three books. By categorising words into eight emotions – Joy, Anticipation, Anger, Disgust, Sadness, Surprise, Fear/Anxiety and Trust – the analysis found the Bible scored higher for anger and much lower for trust than the Quran. Further analysis found the Old Testament was more violent than the New Testament, and more than twice as violent as the Quran.

      Quran expressly says live in peace with Christians and Jews. That is how peaceful Islam. Don’t judge Islam by oppressive regimes. Why do not you deal with the person as a human being without thinking about religion and when you talk about religion must learn what contains this religion no matter how positive things that you are a Muslim or a Christian or a Jew all these religions, God revealed to us to be the owners of a purpose in life, and we know what is allowed and what is forbidden, such as murder, theft, rape and many other things so you can discuss the person’s religion, because as long as there are systems in the world and governments are creating terror in order to remain in its judgment in the name of combating terrorism and protect its people and they are all liars seeking destruction, violence and rob other countries eg USA Isis that made accused by Muslims to form an alliance to enter into Syria and some European countries also because their goal of these heads of state to stay in power and colonization of other countries … ISIS do not represent Muslims or Islam, they are deranged Wahhabi mercenaries following the teachings of the Devil and fulfilling Uncle Sam and Zionist agenda. The Bible ALSO ENDORSES and PROMOTES VIOLENCE and DESPOTISM, particularly the Old Testament…

      Do you know Islam is the fasting growing religion in the west it’s because Islam has all the solutions for the problems of humanity. If you study the Qur’an carefully, you shall see that all its emphasis is on the correction of the set of one’s beliefs (the purification and cleansing of knowledge and mind), the promotion of universally acknowledged virtuous values and the correction of our moral behaviour (the purification of the heart and soul). There are many reasons why homosexuality is forbidden in Islam. Homosexuality is dangerous for the health of the individuals and for the society. It is a main cause of one of the most harmful and fatal diseases. It is disgraceful for both men and women. It degrades a person. Islam teaches that men should be men and women should be women. Homosexuality deprives a man of his manhood and a woman of her womanhood. It is the most un-natural way of life. Homosexuality leads to the destruction of family life. I personally believe that Muslims around the world try to make people convert to Islam in a peaceful way by stating what’s written in their Quran and that Islam is the true religion.. every Muslim think that way whether he is a scientist or not , and Christians don’t do that. It’s Obvious.Hope that makes sense wink emoticon
      The Quran is very clear that forced conversion is forbidden. This tax that was paid by non-Muslims, similar tax was also levied on Muslims, 1300 years ago. Muslims pay zakat, and its compulsory for them to pay. Try not paying your tax in your country, see how long it will be till you be thrown in jail for avoiding pay taxes. This tax that was levied on Muslims and non-Muslims 1300 years ago, in turn was used to fund the poor, needy, the orphans. Schools, court, hospitals and many more. Anyone who study’s Quran CAREFULLY will believe in God and Islam. Quran is a miracle. Quran mentioned things about universe and other things 1400 years ago that were discovered later on.. Quran teaches how to respect others … By Quran we know Jesus is Our respectable prophet as like Muses.. Quran didn’t allow us to force any body for taking Islam … Quran says Allah is every where doesn’t matter its is Mosque or church or pagoda .. Don’t Judge Islam by looking a group of people.. Judaism doesn’t believe in Jesus peace be upon him and in his gospel , Jews don’t believe in prophet Mohammed peace be upon him and in his Quran too. Christianity doesn’t believe in Moses peace be upon him and his Torah , Christians don’t believe in prophet Mohammed and in his Quran too . but Islam believes in all of them and in their books.
      IA
      http://www.londonschoolofislamics.org.uk

      • gravenimage says

        Aug 5, 2016 at 9:49 pm

        The nasty Iftikhar Ahmad wrote:

        Prophet Muhammad PBUH was ranked at the first place by Michael Hart.
        …………………………..

        Historian Michael Hart ranked Muhammad among the most influential figures in history–this was not an appraisal of his personal decency. For instance, I might rank Adolf Hitler as the “most influential” figure of the 20th century–that does not mean I consider him a good–or even sane–individual.

        More:

        If Islam is violent why more and more Europeans embracing Islam ?
        …………………………..

        Well, Islam *is* very popular in prison with violent felons…

        Besides, if this is just a numbers game, I might ask why there are so many more Christians world-wide than Muslims? Not a question Muslims ever want to deal with…

        More:

        Neither Quran nor Bible is violent both teaches humanity peace respect tolerance and brotherhood.
        …………………………..

        What claptrap. The Qur’an is hideously violent, enjoining Muslims to rape, enslave, and mass-murder Infidels.

        Does Iftikhar Ahmad think that most of us here have not read that foul tome?

        More:

        Religion can never be bad, no religion was based on violence, only mankind is violent. God/Allah is love.
        …………………………..

        What claptrap. *Of course* religions can be violent–is Ahmad claiming that the religion of the Aztecs–which including cutting the hearts out of their enemies as sacrifices–was not violent? How about the religion of Moloch, which included burning infants to death as a sacrifice?

        And the vicious deity “Allah” could scarcely be more violent as portrayed in the texts and tenets of Islam. “Allah” has almost nothing in common with the God of the Bible.

        More:

        You just choose some texts from holy books about violence.
        …………………………..

        It depends on whether such violence is descriptive or prescriptive. Much of the violence in the Bible is descriptive; most of the violence in the Qur’an is both prescriptive, and open-ended–in other words, its exhortations to violence are *good for all time*. That is exactly why Ahmad’s coreligionists–like this fine fellow in London–are murdering us all the time.

        More:

        How about democratic governments when they attack other nations, bomb them, kill civilians, children, women … etc. destroying a whole community for resources in the name of fighting terror, Isn’t that more violence than the books you are talking about. for god sake leave religions aside and be humans ( democratic governments).
        …………………………..

        The usual Muslim switcheroo–claiming that Jihad itself is not violent, but that daring to defend against it *is*.

        More:

        An analysis into whether the Quran is more violent than the Bible found killing and destruction occur more frequently in the Christian texts than the Islamic.
        …………………………..

        Well, of course! Saying “Thou Shalt Not Kill” has the word “kill” in it. And that whole crucifixion was pretty violent…

        But Jesus Christa was not a warlord, caravan-raider, pedophile, slaver, rapist, and mass-murderer–instead, he was a healer and peacemaker.

        More:

        More Investigating whether the Quran really is more violent than its Judeo-Christian counterparts, software engineer Tom Anderson processed the text of the Holy books to find which contained the most violence. In the just war allowed in Islam, it is forbidden to kill innocent children, women and unarmed people, or to burn crops, destroy the means of living, torture the captives, or mutilate the dead bodies under any circumstance.
        …………………………..

        This is true only if one does not consider crucifixion and murder to be violent, as the Qur’an urges its followers to inflict on anyone who “makes mischief in the land” by not submitting to Islam.

        More:

        If the enemies of Islam call for peace, Islam urges Muslims to accept and to decline war and enter into peace immediately with them.
        …………………………..

        What Ahmad does not tell us is that “calling for peace” means submitting to Islam, and either converting to Islam or living as abused and threatened dhimmis.

        More:

        …God rewards the good and punishes the evil
        …………………………..

        Yes–but what does the “god” of Islam consider to be good and evil? Slaughtering Infidels is considered “good” and holding back from murdering them is “evil”.

        More:

        Allah does not forbid you as regards those who did not fight you on account of faith, and did not expel you from your homes, that you do good to them, and deal justly with them. Surely Allah loves those who maintain justice.” [al-Qur’an: 60:8]
        …………………………..

        And what is “justice” in Islam? Why the horror of Shari’ah law, which includes stoning rape victims to death and murdering those who dare say Islam is violent as “blasphemy”.

        More:

        and Islam does allow self-defence and retribution to the extent of wrong done to a Muslim individual or society but it does not allow pre-emptive aggression.
        …………………………..

        Well, yes and no. What Ahmad does not say is that resisting submitting to Islam is considered “aggression”, and so you can be slaughtered with impunity. That is the basis on which Ahmad’s pious coreligionist knifed this elderly woman to death on a London street.

        con’d

      • gravenimage says

        Aug 5, 2016 at 9:50 pm

        con’d

        The prophet Muhammad peace be upon him said I was sent only as a mercy.
        …………………………..

        This is also true–of course, Muslims consider being converted to Islam at sword-point to be “merciful”.

        More:

        The Prophet stated in his contract with the Christians of Najran, “No man from among them may be held accountable for the violations of another of his fellows.”
        …………………………..

        This is especially shameless. There are a number of frauds where desperate Christians and other Infidels came up with supposed “pacts” with the “Prophet” where Muslims agreed not to molest them in the hope that contemporary Muslims could be convinced they should stop oppressing and murdering them. One of the most infamous is the Monastery of St. Catherine in Sinai. But now Muslims, perversely, are all to happy to use these to claim that Muhammed was actually something other than a warlord.

        More:

        Further analysis found the Old Testament was more violent than the New Testament, and more than twice as violent as the Quran…
        …………………………..

        And yet, Ahmad will not explain to you why Jews and Christians are not slaughtering unbelievers all over the world on the basis of their scriptures, but Muslims *are*–like, in fact, this pious Muslim murderer, above:

        “UK knifeman recently read Qur’an, life of Muhammad…”

        https://www.jihadwatch.org/2016/08/uk-knifeman-recently-read-quran-life-of-muhammad-cops-search-for-motive

        More:

        …God revealed to us to be the owners of a purpose in life, and we know what is allowed and what is forbidden, such as murder, theft, rape…
        …………………………..

        Actually, theft, rape, and murder are fine for Muslims as long as the victim is a part of Dar-al-Harb–as the case above and the mass-rapes of Infidels in Europe by Muslims proves.

        More:

        …as long as there are systems in the world and governments are creating terror in order to remain in its judgment in the name of combating terrorism and protect its people and they are all liars seeking destruction…
        …………………………..

        What does *this* mean? It means that as Ahmad and other pious Muslims would have it, we are the ones bringing Jihad violence on ourselves by not simply submitting to Islam.

        More:

        …ISIS do not represent Muslims or Islam, they are deranged Wahhabi mercenaries following the teachings of the Devil and fulfilling Uncle Sam and Zionist agenda….
        …………………………..

        There is nothing more Islamic than the Islamic State–all of its actions are based on the texts of Islam and the model of the vicious “Prophet”. Pretending that the Caliphate is based on the kind of democracy one finds in the United States and Israel is just grotesque.

        More:

        Do you know Islam is the fasting growing religion in the west it’s because Islam has all the solutions for the problems of humanity.
        …………………………..

        This is only true if you believe–as pious Muslims do–that the world needs more oppression, rape, and murder.

        More:

        If you study the Qur’an carefully, you shall see that all its emphasis is on the correction of the set of one’s beliefs (the purification and cleansing of knowledge and mind), the promotion of universally acknowledged virtuous values and the correction of our moral behaviour (the purification of the heart and soul).
        …………………………..

        That is only true if you consider acts like the one above–notice that Iftitkhar Ahmad never actually gets around to condemning this murder of an elderly unarmed woman–to be “virtuous”.

        More:

        There are many reasons why homosexuality is forbidden in Islam. Homosexuality is dangerous for the health of the individuals and for the society.
        …………………………..

        He does not condemn the murder, above, but is happy to rant against gay people. The thing is that homosexual rape and pedophilia is fine in Islam–“martyrs” in paradise get “pearly boys” to abuse–the only thing pious Muslims object to is consensual same-sex relationships between adults.

        More:

        I personally believe that Muslims around the world try to make people convert to Islam in a peaceful way by stating what’s written in their Quran and that Islam is the true religion.. every Muslim think that way whether he is a scientist or not , and Christians don’t do that. It’s Obvious.Hope that makes sense wink emoticon
        …………………………..

        Remember that this irrational, semi-literate moron is an *educator* in Britain. Frightening in so many ways.

        More:

        The Quran is very clear that forced conversion is forbidden. This tax that was paid by non-Muslims, similar tax was also levied on Muslims…
        …………………………..

        Ah–now the foul Ahmad is suggesting bringing back crushing Jizya–the backbreaking collective tax levied by Muslim states intended to break Infidels. No surprise–this is exactly what the Islamic State is doing. And he says ISIS is not Islamic…

        More:

        Quran is a miracle. Quran mentioned things about universe and other things 1400 years ago that were discovered later on..
        …………………………..

        You mean like the sun setting into a muddy puddle? Somehow I don’t recall that being scientifically proven…

        More:

        Quran we know Jesus is Our respectable prophet as like Muses..
        …………………………..

        What Ahmad does not tell you is that the “Jesus”–really, “Isa”–of Islam is *nothing* like the Jesus of the Gospels. He is not only not the Savior–he is not a healer or a peacemaker, either. In fact, his role in the “Last Days” is to *murder Christians* who balk at converting to Islam.

        More:

        Christianity doesn’t believe in Moses peace be upon him and his Torah , Christians don’t believe in prophet Mohammed and in his Quran too . but Islam believes in all of them and in their books.
        …………………………..

        Not really. Islam claims that the Torah and the Bible were “corrupted”, and that they were originally just as vicious as the Qur’an, and that Jesus and all the figures of the Old Testament are Muslim “prophets”.

  51. Iftikhar Ahmad says

    Aug 5, 2016 at 5:44 pm

    What do you expect from a Muslim youth who was the product of British schooling? Muslim children need state funded Muslim schools with Muslim teachers as role models during their developmental periods. Muslim children must develop their cultural, linguistic and spiritual identities before they are exposed to wider world, otherwise, they would be lost in western jungle. There will never be an end to extremism and terrorism as long as Muslim children keep on attending British schooling with non-Muslim teachers.
    IA
    http://www.londonschoolofislamics.org.uk

    • gravenimage says

      Aug 5, 2016 at 10:13 pm

      Yet more from Iftikhar Ahmad:

      What do you expect from a Muslim youth who was the product of British schooling?
      ……………………………

      Uh huh. Iftikhar Ahmad has done this before. But it is not Infidels who are roaming the streets, murdering while screaming “Allahu Akbar!”. Instead, it is Ahmad’s own coreligionists.

      More:

      Muslim children need state funded Muslim schools with Muslim teachers as role models during their developmental periods. Muslim children must develop their cultural, linguistic and spiritual identities before they are exposed to wider world, otherwise, they would be lost in western jungle. There will never be an end to extremism and terrorism as long as Muslim children keep on attending British schooling with non-Muslim teachers.
      ……………………………

      Grimly laughable. Never mind that Muslims–many “educated” at Muslim schools, are slaughtering Infidels all over the world.

      Never mind, also, that this Jihadist was reading the Qur’an and the life of the “Prophet” Muhammed before he struck.

      But Ahmad’s purpose here is to get Muslims taken out of civilized schools in Britain and into Madrasses–and he wants the “filthy Infidels” to pay for it.

      More:

      http://www.londonschoolofislamics.org.uk

      Well–no surprise–his link does not work.

      Here you go:

      http://www.lsi.com.temporary-domain.com/

      Lots of nastiness there–including the ludicrous claim that Jihad terror did not exist until the war in Iraq and the claim that it is the United States that is behind all the terrorism in the Middle East.

      He claims that Jihadi John was just “in the wrong place at the wrong time”–no mention of his *beheading his victims*.

      He claims it is a “It is a crime against humanity to send Muslim children to state and church schools with non-Muslim teachers”–beheading your victims in the name of Allah? Not so much…

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