“This is a matter of simple justice and common sense. So why is the USDA stonewalling on our petition?” Why indeed? And does any politician have the guts and persistence to mount and see through an investigation? Almost certainly not.
“Pamela Geller: USDA Ignores AFDI Petition to Require All Halal Meat Be Labeled as Such,” by Pamela Geller, Breitbart, August 11, 2016:
A great deal of meat sold in this country is halal but is not labeled is such. It’s a scandal — but an established practice: meat packers generally do not separate halal meat from non-halal meat, and do not label halal meat as such. We attempted to right that wrong. But the U.S. Department of Agriculture has for four years now ignored, shelved, or just plain refused to rule on our petition.
As many Americans do not, for a variety of reasons, wish to eat halal meat, back in February 2012, my organization, the American Freedom Defense Initiative (AFDI), filed a citizen petition with the U.S. Department of Agriculture’s Food Safety and Inspection Service, asking that a regulation be enacted to ensure that all halal food be clearly labeled as halal. In April 2012, we agreed not to publicize our petition in order to give the agency some space to review the document without any pressure from the public.
On May 11, 2012, we had a face-to-face meeting in the USDA offices with top FSIS officials. We discussed this petition and the need for halal meat to be clearly labeled. Present at this meeting was Dan Engeljohn, a longtime USDA official who is now Assistant Administrator for the Office of Policy and Program Development (OPPD) in the FSIS. This position makes him responsible for FSIS regulations.
Engeljohn and company have now had four years to rule on our petition. They’ve done absolutely nothing.
As far back as October 2010, I reported on little-noted but explosive revelations that much of the meat in Europe and the United States was being processed as halal without the knowledge of the non-Muslim consumers who bought it.
Then in November 2011, I penned an article that caused a firestorm across the political spectrum, revealing that Butterball turkeys were all halal, but were not labeled as such. Heads exploded on the left – not over Butterball’s deception, but over my having the audacity to reveal it. And the clueless and compromised on the right were enraged as well: John Podhoretz tweeted, “I’d tell Pamela Geller to put a sock in it, but the sock might be halal.”
I was, of course, excoriated as a racist Islamophobic anti-Muslim bigot. In reality, however, we have no objection to halal meat being sold, as long as it is clearly labeled as such, and as long as non-halal meat is available. Meat that is halal must be labeled as such.
Our petition regarding ritual slaughter was posted on the FSIS website on February 14, 2012. It was a “ritual slaughter” petition that applied to all types of ritual slaughter: kosher, halal, etc. Every type of ritual slaughter holds some type of concern for some segment of the consuming public. We were not asking the USDA to single out a specific type of slaughter when dealing with this issue; our petition did not single out one type of ritual slaughter over another, nor did it wish to discriminate against a specific religious group.
We just wanted all meat that had been ritually slaughtered to be clearly labeled to that effect. Kosher meat is routinely marked accordingly; why not halal meat?
Our petition has since been taken down from the FSIS site, but here is a screenshot via the wayback machine.
This is strictly a false labeling and consumer choice issue. Religious people – Jews, Muslims, and others — should have the freedom to have meat and poultry products produced in a way that meets their needs. Conversely, consumers who don’t wish to consume ritually slaughtered products have a right to sufficient labeling information.
Under the current system, ritually slaughtered meat and poultry is not sufficiently labeled for consumers to be able to choose exactly what they want. Labeling can be misleading and untruthful in what it does not say if key facts are omitted. Consumers should have the ability to be able to choose for themselves if they want to eat ritually slaughtered products. Some Christians see the New Testament prohibiting the consumption of meat sacrificed to idols, and some would view halal meat as meeting that definition. But under current law, they have no way to avoid eating it.
Just as those who buy meat and poultry products labeled halal or kosher should have a reasonable expectation that the meat they’re buying was actually produced in that manner, so also those of us who don’t want to eat halal meat for whatever reason should also have a reasonable assurance that meat not labeled halal was not actually slaughtered in accordance with Sharia rules. As halal slaughter increases in the US, the likelihood of unknowingly buying meat sacrificed under the present system also increases.
This is a matter of simple justice and common sense. So why is the USDA stonewalling on our petition?

JOHN SPIELMAN says
I want meat to be labeled either halal and haram so I can by the haram stuff- tastes better because the animals were not tortured!
Keys says
Haven’t seen “More Ham Ed” on JW for awhile, but I think he’d agree with you John; but he might make an exception for some Halal Ham.
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More Ham Ed says
Hey thanks for a shout-out. I just toasted a nice HAM & swiss in support of this thread & JW. I’ve read that there’s no such thing as real Halal Ham because it’s often fake like turkey bacon, turkey pepperoni, etc. Some islamic-majority restaurants simply practice taqiyya to call it “ham” on the menu for non-muslim customers, to keep profits up.
Carolyne says
My personal favorite is “Halal bacon.”
john spielman says
oops it should be “buy” haram meat
Thought_Weaver says
Jewdog says:
“I’ve read that halal slaughtering techniques are inhumane. I don’t know how true that is, or how it compares to kosher slaughtering.”
Well I do not see much difference between the two. And the procedures that @Karyn Stark listed about Kosher slaughter are the same as Halal procedures. Now, many do not conform to those humane(sarc) standards of slaughtering animals, but that is another topic. No doubt Quran has been copied from the Torah with added steroids.
boakai ngombu says
the worklines at modern slaughter houses are filled with folk – used to slaughtering animals – who are largely immigrants (legal and not)
the slaves (Muslims) who work the lines prefer to work with meat that is slaughtered according to SHARIA.
hence, halal. too difficult to find workers otherwise
it’s a bigAG thing involving profit
Jack Diamond says
Halal matters first and foremost because it is an important wedge in the push push push for Shariah, in segregating the Muslim community, in demands made upon the kaffirs to give Muslims unique legal and social recognition, and in fueling the Muslim economy (including funding jihad).
Halal is all about Hijrah and Shariah. A Muslim is not required to eat halal meat (Qur’an 5:3). That is, our meat is halal for them too. The demand for halal meat is not a personal requirement so much as it is a political and economic strategy and part of the Islamization (consuming) of the host society, while the host society thinks it is just accommodating minor multicultural differences. Like with the proliferation of mosques or the accommodating of the hijab (and then the burqa and then the niqab…).
It also matters to those of us who do not want to eat meat consecrated to Allah and Islam.
gravenimage says
Exactly, Jack. Stealth Jihad.
boakai ngombu says
@Jack Diamond
thanks for helping me see the forest, not the trees
Robert McKenna says
To see the truth about halal slaughter, go to barenakedislam.com and tag halal slaughter.
The ins and outs of Kosher slaughter are available on the internet. Halal slaughter is nowhere to be seen. Give you any ideas ?
maddog20-20 says
…..and you’d know that the animals weren’t the “sex toys” of some of their producers…..
f c king says
I would rather not consume meat that has been “ritually Slaughtered” by some barn yard felon.
Religion of peacers can keep this stuff, along with their camel urine beverages.
Hari Singh says
It is absolutely necessary to label meat as such as meat eating Hindus, Sikhs and other are prohibited from eating Halal meat as the method of killing the animals is cruel and the offering of the meat with Muslim prayers is considered an abomination.
Sikhs and Hindus who eat meat kill their meat with one shot, rather than slowly bleeding the poor creatures to death, as in the Halal method of slaughter.
Not labeling the meat Halal violates their religious rights and rites.
Consumers have a right to know where the meat comes from and if it was slaughter outside the legal lay accepted methods of slaughter based on religious arguments.Those who demand we pay for their religion are enriching on the freedom of others. A Sikh who took Halal meat would be considered an apostate.
This like the Halal meat in the schools movement is enroaching shariat and a violation of America’s laws and traditions.
Kay says
What exactly makes meat so that it is “halal”?
Angemon says
The animal is alive and awake, and death comes from haemorrhaging through a cut to the jugular vein, carotid artery and windpipe, all while a muslim utters a dedication.
Angemon says
Try telling them that muslims will be happy to know what is halal and what isn’t.
More Ham Ed says
Put the proper PR “spin” on the issue and leftists will do all the work!
birchstick says
Want some laughs? Peel the Halal stickers off the beef products and stroll down the aisle and put them on the packages of bacon.
Baconator says
Hehehehehe! Great idea
Carolyne says
There is a woman wearing Muslim garb who patronizes the local grocery where I often go. She has a young boy who, of course, wears western clothing. It is my life’s ambition to place a package of bacon into her shopping cart, “By mistake” but the young boy keeps his eye on me. I want to hear a shriek at the checkout line when she discovers the bacon being scanned. I will keep trying.
jewdog says
I’ve read that halal slaughtering techniques are inhumane. I don’t know how true that is, or how it compares to kosher slaughtering.
Well, the pork industry has to be happy with this outcome, as consumers may rest assured that no pork product is halal.
PRCS says
Good point.
Mark says
Ooo Yes Pork the other white meat love it
Karyn Stark says
I had a close friend who was a Kosher butcher for years in New York. The slaughter method required by Jewish Law is much more humane than that of Islamic Halal slaughtering.
1) The animal is brought in to a clean room with out the smell of blood or other bodily fluids.
2) The animal NEVER sees the knife, or blade. It is kept covered.
3) You are not allowed to frighten the animal, by having it see or hear it’s fellow species dead, dying, or their bloody remains. ( can you imagine a human entering a room and seeing a human corpse?)
4) The Kosher butcher lays hands on the animal while saying a prayer of thanks for the sacrifice of the animal’s life to give sustenance to us humans. ( sound cruel yet?)
5) only then, is the animal blindfolded, and swiftly cut.
If you want to see how the ‘Islamics” do it, there is a video on Youtube. Just don’t eat while watching.
Dennis says
My grandfather had a supermarket in which kosher meat was sold. He was a licensed kosher butcher. It affected my father so much that he became a vegetarian. I am sure that Mohammed took his halal idea from the Arabian Jews. He took many of his ideas from them anyway.
mustapha crap says
The big problem with ritual slaughter is the fact the animal is not stunned prior to slaughter. This means the animal is fully aware as it bleeds to death, Cows can take upto 5 minutes to bleed out until dead, which is unacceptable the animal is hanging upside down by it’s hind legs and bleeds out in sheer terror.
If we are to rear animals for their meat then we have a moral obligation to rear them ethically and to slaughter them as humanely as possible, if we cannot or will not do this then we should not be rearing animals for their meat.
Apart from the animal cruelty issues, the meat is tainted by stress chemicals and hormones released by the animal as it bleeds out, animals which has been stunned are rendered unaware once the bolt gun has been applied.
The cruelty issue is the big issue for me followed by the superstitious mumbo jumbo. All ritually slaughtered meat needs to be clearly labelled so that we can buy after making an informed decision
thomas says
Federal Law requires that livestock (this does not include poultry) be slaughtered by humane methods. 7 USC 1901. The regulations contain very detailed definition of what is considered a humane method. 9 CFR § 313.5(a); 9 CFR § 315.15(a), . 9 CFR § 313.16(a), and 9 CFR § 313.30(a).
Section 7 USC 1902 (b) includes this within the definition of Humane methods:
“ by slaughtering in accordance with the ritual requirements of the Jewish faith or any other religious faith that prescribes a method of slaughter whereby the animal suffers loss of consciousness by anemia of the brain caused by the simultaneous and instantaneous severance of the carotid arteries with a sharp instrument and handling in connection with such slaughtering.”
Islamic slaughtering method does not fit into the definition for ritual slaughtering of animals because the animal does not lose consciousness and is fully aware as it bleeds out.
It appears to me that Islamic slaughtering methods are unlawful in the USA.
Does anyone agree with me?
billdeserthills says
I totally agree, animals should feel as little pain as possible.
When I was young my Dad used to butcher chickens, we kids got to
pluck them–I didn’t eat chicken for many years after that
PRCS says
bill,
We had chickens on our dairy farm and, as a 10-12 year old boy, I was tasked with killing them.
I didn’t eat chicken for many year thereafter as well.
Thought_Weaver says
Jewdog says:
“I’ve read that halal slaughtering techniques are inhumane. I don’t know how true that is, or how it compares to kosher slaughtering.”
Well I do not see much difference between the two. And the procedures that @Karyn Stark listed about Kosher slaughter are the same as Halal procedures. Now, many do not conform to those humane(sarc) standards of slaughtering animals, but that is another topic. No doubt Quran has been copied from the Torah with added steroids.
Dan says
I make a point now of asking if the restaurant is Halal compliant, and then walking out if they say yes, telling them I won’t support the inhumane slaughter of animals.
And I used to ranch.
Thought_Weaver says
Exactly, we should all do the same. Everywhere.
particolor says
They do that here !! Its a wonder the Restaurateur doesn’t chase them down the Street with a big knife !! 🙁
Bezelel says
Acts 15: 29 That ye abstain from meats offered to idols, and from blood, and from things strangled, and from fornication: from which if ye keep yourselves, ye shall do well. Fare ye well.
(abstain from meats offered to idols) That rock in a shrine in mecca meets all the criteria to be designated as an idol. Not to mention the poor beasts strangle on their own blood while they are being butchered alive.
Laura says
Thank you, Bezelel – you beat me to it. Those of us who don’t wish to consume this meat offered to idols would appreciate halal being labeled clearly!
Bezelel says
Laura,Nice to know we’re on the same page. The New Testament is very liberating, but there are still some things Christians need to be aware of.
Berengaria says
Please be aware that Outback Steak House always has a large group of Muslim patrons, so I no longer go to
Outback. I don’t want Halal meat or any other Halal thing.
john spielman says
how about ordering some yummy” halal” pork chops?
Jay Boo says
I look forward to a reminder in November to avoid Butterball turkeys at Thanksgiving.
WCM says
Why I hunt and eat wild turkey and also why I toast the meal with Wild Turkey.
🙂
gravenimage says
Outback Steak House does serve pork, but–grotesquely–their lamb is Halal-certified.
Keys says
“So why is the USDA stonewalling on our petition?”
Because they get their orders from the Obama administration, and you have not been singing their song and marching in their parade. They follow the Alinsky handbook and punish their enemies any way possible.
Angel Gabriel says
How is it the Muslims know it is Halal when we don’t? I find that strange when they are so worried about eating non-halal.
That info (which companies’ products are halal) should be easily obtained and publicized. What kafr doesn’t want to avoid buying barbarically slaughtered meat. The animal rights people should be going nuts over this. And they would if they weren’t the same ones who are doing everything they can to protect radical Muslims because they are “oppressed”.
Jay Boo says
Muslims probably go to the CAIR website to see which companies have not been sued yet by CAIR for not providing halal.
Western Canadian says
A simple web search, looking for halal products country-name, or some variation on that should be all you need to find out what companies to boycott.
Jay Boo says
Atheists must be furious about this.
The Leftist ACLU is no doubt unleashing thousands of lawsuits across the country at this “intrusion of religion”.
Unless of course the leadership and top spokespersons for Atheists and the ACLU are too busy standing in the waiting line with Pope Francis in eager anticipation to kiss Muslim butts.
Carolyne says
Why would I be “Furious” about this? I do not wish to eat animals which have been tortured to death.
As far as a man in a dress sucking toes, didn’t the Duchess of York’s “Financial advisor” suck her toes in the South of France once?
The Picture of Francis kissing that man’s feet was almost pornographic. What a disgusting thing.
Ice Star says
This is why I eat PORK.
I would be a vegetarian if it wasn’t for pork.
PRCS says
Yes, indeed. And I would be a vegetarian if I didn’t eat chocolate covered grasshoppers.
Carolyne says
Cat–the other white meat.
Bezelel says
I was going to say something and nah, he he.
Western Canadian says
Carolyne, GFY.
kangi_nunpa says
There’s a difficulty in this regarding kosher slaughter.
Because the laws of kashrus prohibit the consumption of certain fats, nerves, etc., kosher butchery of the hind end of a cow is almost prohibitively expensive. In the U.S., almost all kosher-slaughtered animals are split up – the front end is sold as kosher beef, and the hind end is sold to other processors – who are only too happy to purchase it, as it contains the more profitable loin, sirloin, rump, etc.
The fact that it was slaughtered in accordance with the laws of kashrus doesn’t make it kosher, though – it still contains those prohibited parts. So to label it “Kosher” is misleading. Even “Kosher-slaughtered” would cause significant difficulties for Jews who intend to purchase kosher meat.
I 100-percent agree that halal meat should be labeled – but there are some difficulties if we’re going to apply the “ritual slaughter” labeling across the board.
JSteering says
I posted these comments on pamelageller.com…
1) Apart from the obvious cruelty and savagery, add to that the superstitious absurdity always present in a backward religion from the Dark Ages – for lawful (halal) meat in Islam, the animal must be killed while the butcher faces Mecca, and either the butcher cries “Allah Akbar” or a tape plays the words over a loud speaker.
It’s heartbreaking that humans are not the only beings to have those evil words as the last they hear in their time on Earth. Savages.
2) The whole issue of animal slaughter for meat is a contentious one, but it will always be with us whether we like it or not. However, labelling is crucial for consumers to make an informed choice in what they buy and eat.
Sadly, labelling will never happen in multicultural, politically correct Britain because Muslims will never allow it and they almost always get their own way. The EU is a force for good in many ways, for example in animal welfare. First, this article:- “In a series of votes on food labelling this week, which also backed compulsory country-of-origin labelling on all meat, MEPs in the European parliament voted by 559 to 54 for compulsory labelling of the religious slaughter of meat without stunning. Religious slaughter is already banned in Switzerland, Sweden, Norway and Iceland.”
But what does Britain do? “The British government opposed EU measures that would have required meat to carry labels confirming whether it came from animals that had been stunned before slaughter. The government declined to support the measures amid concerns from Muslim and Jewish groups that it was discriminatory.”
Forget Jewish groups, for “concerns” read “furious Muslim protests”.
Wellington says
Being a Pennsylvanian from birth and to this very day, I take solace in the fact that scrapple, a Pennsylvania Dutch delight, a true delicacy, made into a cold loaf from left-over pig elements like pork lips, liver, stomach and tongue (and best enjoyed by slicing it thin, frying it and then pouring maple syrup over it) will NEVER become halal.
And so I say, “Scrapple forever.” Eat your confused hearts out, Muzzies. And you too you idiotic bureaucrats in the USDA who refuse to see that Sharia Creep is going on.
Yes, “Scrapple forever.” My motto for the time being. (Pretty damn good motto, no?).
PRCS says
Tee shirts! Tee shirts! We want tee shirts!
Wellington says
Indeed, PRCS. And may I say again, “Scrapple forever.”
gravenimage says
I haven’t found “Scrapple Forever” t-shirts, PRCS and Wellington, but here are assorted scrapple t-shirts, mugs, etc:
https://www.google.com/search?q=scrapple+tshirt&rlz=1C1TSND_enUS657US657&oq=scrapple+tshirt&aqs=chrome..69i57j0l3.6485j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#q=scrapple+forever+tshirt
Wellington says
Thanks for that link, gravenimage. You know, promoting and eating scrapple is just one of sundry ways to give the metaphorical if not literal finger to Muzzies. Downing a good beer is another. And then there is…….. To be followed by…… And then again……
Carolyne says
How does one fry scrapple? It is held together with gelatin and I think that melts when heated.
bob ingersol says
Could poor Pam find something else to be outraged about?
Oh, of course, I forgot.
Huck Folder says
forgot what?
gravenimage says
In other words, how *dare* Pamela Geller fight stealth Jihad?
Bad dhimmi! sarc/off
Western Canadian says
Which part of opposing blanket halal food, to you actually find acceptable: Needless cruelty to animals, extortion committed against food retailers, or the fact that part of the halal fees are used to fund groups that would be a vicious butchering you, as they are while butchering animals? The label is even being added to nonfood items, to increase the flow of kuffar funds into muslim pockets.
Dum Spiro says
Did you ever wonder How safe is halal meat?
Ontario (Canada) Muslims EXEMPT from meat safety regulations for seven years.
This story from just a month ago in Canada should have you at least wondering about the safety regulations aspect…
— Spero
More Ham Ed says
Any sane society: “Better safe than sorry”.
Leftists: “Better sorry than safe”.
Morag says
Thanks for that, hadn’t seen it before.
Here’s an article laying out the other sanitary risks of halal slaughter:
http://vladtepesblog.com/2011/12/13/the-sanitary-risks-linked-to-halal-slaughter-by-alain-peretti-doctor-of-veterinary-medicine/
The video seems to be down, but the text explains clearly how dirty halal slaughtered meat is.
Dum Spiro says
I found a couple of halal slaughter related videos.
Warning — disturbing content — warning!
https://youtu.be/ZE2svQFH_q0
https://youtu.be/jujQ5ntP1NM
Sad yet informational…
— Spero
Morag says
Thanks.
I’ve watched some halal videos before, so know how horrific it is. Haven’t watched these yet – but will. Though am confused that one starts with the slaughter of pigs, which can’t be halal slaughter. Must just be a really awful non halal abattoir. Grim.
islam the religion of killers says
Stock & poultry slaughtered in a Halal way, ( Halal slaughter involves cutting the trachea, the esophagus, and the jugular vein, and letting the blood drain out while saying “Bismillah allahu akbar” — in the name of Allah the greatest. )
This process would fill them with panic causing an injection of adrenalin, killing them in the quickest, less stressful, humane way will reduce this ..
Perhaps this is why people that eat Halal meat are such physco’s
mustapha crap says
When you combine this factor with the inbreeding endemic within Islam it is hardly surprising that Muslims appear to become violent extremely easily, the low cognitive ability from generations of inbreeding allied with eating meat filled with stress/fear chemicals and hormones it’s no wonder really.
citycat says
Stop this cruel murder of innocent creatures such as cows.
If a cow is killed by a Muslim, i heard it is a cruel method, then that cow may be reborn as a Muslim, hence increasing the Muslim numbers.
I’ve heard many infidels talk about their past lives. All were humans in past lives. I think a Muslim, generally speaking, is on his first life as a human. Depends i guess, on availability of bodies.
ScottM says
We have this issue in Australia too. Halal Certification is BIG business here as it is around the world. We have a local guy Larry Pickering who put together 12-part expose of what the muslims and dhimmi government are doing and not doing – its absolutely sickening. The whole world is under attack from islam. http://pickeringpost.com/topic/halal/12
S.Wold says
I am totally sickened by any animal cruelty. In reality, the only ethical and moral way to live is to be a Vegan. What makes religious folk think that cruelty is justified, because they happen to belong to a certain religious group, that has been killing animals this way for thousands of years? All creatures should be treated with compassion. Just like humans, they feel pain and fear. I have yet to be convinced that Islam is the religion of peace, far from it!
Even the issue of labeling Halal and non-halal/ non-kosher, will not save animals for torture. In the UK the law states that only those who require Halal for religious reasons should purchase it, many people are too ignorant to know the difference, or don’t care. They should care, because this is just one more back-door way that Islam is taking over the world, while most people are asleep and totally unaware. Time to stop barbaric treatment of animals as well as humans before it is too late to do anything about it. It seems many would rather be in denial and bury their heads in the sand, instead of being awake and aware of what is happening in the world.
Listen to Judge Jeanine Pirro, she always calls a spade a spade.
Western Canadian says
You are no doubt Pro-Life, as well. Unless you are a hypocrite.
kessler says
The discussion should not be so focussed on whether Halal is inhumane or not, and how it compares to other ritual slaughter methods. It opens up an entirely different topic and strays from the core of the issue. Animals suffer all the way through the food chain – I’ve briefly worked in a slaughter house in Denmark in my younger days. The suffering of the animals was indescribable.
Lefties and Muslim apologists will always try to argue at length about whether the actual killing is less or more humane than traditional methods. It’s not worth the discussion.
What really matters here – at least to me – is our basic right to be able to say no to meat specifically sanctioned for Muslims – a ritual rooted in a belief system completely at odds with ours.
The majority is giving up this right in the name of “tolerance” – again another case of a culture of intolerance trumping a culture of tolerance.
Demsci says
If we draw a quadrant and distinguish between Halal Labeled and Unlabeled and “normal”labeled and unlabeled, how would that work out?
What would Muslims buy? Halal labeled meat of course, but I doubt if they have the knowledge if meat is halal or not or the ability to see that it is halal or not, just by looking at it. So Muslims, on the whole, will not buy unlabeled halal meat. And they will make sure to take no risk eating Haram meat. But only labeled halal meat.
So almost all the halal, but unlabeled meat will be bought by unsuspecting Kuffars, many of whom would not buy labeled Halal meat.
So yes, I agree that this practice gives Halal meat, and thus Muslims, an unfair advantage. Not labeling Halal meat is pure deception.
Jorgen says
2.5 % of the fee to the imam and Muslim butcher is paid to Muslim charity (zakat) according to Sharia law. Among the eight categories of Muslims who have the right to receive charity is according to Sharia the Mujahideen which means “armed fighters in the cause of Allah”. They are in our terminology simply terrorists. Contributions to this group are compulsory.
Whenever we pay for halal meat there is a probability that a part of the money goes to pay terror directed against ourselves. The only way to guarantee that no money of yours pays for terror against you is to NOT buy halal. So, of course you need to know.
Besides, it is a disgusting thought that an imam has been praying over my food. It gets impure, spoiled.
TopDrifter says
Why does USDA and especially FDA do anything, MONEY! Regulations for MONEY not for specific laws, rules, ethic beliefs, religious needs, but for MONEY. This request will be stonewalled and ignored as long as humanly possible to get all the money out of it that can be gotten. A truth will be made if this is pursued to the bitter end, that the USDA are lying about the ritual slaughtering of animals chosen for Muslim and Kosher diets. I don’t see that Slaughterhouses are going to bother with the expense of accommodating the religious needs of certain cultures. They (slaughterhouses) have a process and it will cost them a considerable amount of money to interrupt that process to prove they ritually slaughter all this Halal Meat and any cost incurred by this ritual slaughter should be incurred and included into the price of only Halal and Kosher meats…
duh swami says
There is no ‘nice’ way to kill an animal…
If’ ‘you are what you eat’ has any meaning at all, those who eat dead animals
are in trouble…there is no good reason to be in this trouble…It is voluntary…
The vegetarian/vegan has no such trouble…
If you want to live longer with less trips to the doctor, the vegetarian diet is one way to do it…
Suzanne says
Good point duh swami: You are so damn right. Plant protein is the best option for optimum health. Animal exploitation is morally and ethically undefendable. Arguing about marketing gimmicks like kosher and halal is a huge waste of time.
Western Canadian says
Rubbish. My Doctor recently asked me if I was a vegetarian, when blood work came back suggesting several health concerns. Veg is superior, and so are those who follow it? Utter rubbish.
Bezelel says
If God didn’t want us to eat animals, he wouldn’t have made them outta meat.
Geraldine says
The UK is no better, the goverment persistently refuses to require halal/unstunned labels. Even to help Muslims doing their shopping in supermarkets.
This is made far more disgraceful by the fact that the law only allows unstunned slaughter for Muslms and Jews, so the stuff shouldn’t be on general sale in the first place.
Geraldine says
A step in the right direction: the British Veterinary Association has achieved a directive that the number of un-stunned killings must be reported by halal and kosher abattoirs. This should reveal the amount of illegal un-stunned meat entering the general butchery trade.
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/700407/Halal-Kosher-Muslim-Jewish-abattoir-slaughterhouse-British-Vet-Food-Standard-Agency
Florida Jim says
Stop all political correctness it is killing america and the dolts doing it are all the 60’s radicals and 5 generations of foul and disgusting offspring Marxism will love them ….in Russia.America has been the best country ever created by God and now Satan and his offspring are turning Her into a living hell like Detroit, Chicago, Milwaukee, St. Louis, Baltimore and 55 other Democratic hellholes created for blacks to struggle in as The Great society strangles them.Now illegals, convicts, and all the scum of the world openly romp about in america.waiting for the next handout as Mexico tries to make america Mexico and Central america and south america all disgusting hellholes made for democrats showing how hell will look when they enter.
John A. Marre says
Why? under orders from the Imam who occupies the Oval Officd.
Ross Lloyd says
A major funding source for Jihad…
Nigel GFF says
14 And he called the people to him again and said to them, “Hear me, all of you, and understand: 15 There is nothing outside a person that by going into him can defile him, but the things that come out of a person are what defile him.”[a] 17 And when he had entered the house and left the people, his disciples asked him about the parable. 18 And he said to them, “Then are you also without understanding? Do you not see that whatever goes into a person from outside cannot defile him, 19 since it enters not his heart but his stomach, and is expelled?” (Thus he declared all foods clean.) 20 And he said, “What comes out of a person is what defiles him. 21 For from within, out of the heart of man, come evil thoughts, sexual immorality, theft, murder, adultery, 22 coveting, wickedness, deceit, sensuality, envy, slander, pride, foolishness. 23 All these evil things come from within, and they defile a person.”
Mark 7:14-23 (ESV)
The ‘humanity/inhumanity’ of slaughter method is not what primarily upsets this kafir. No, it’s the upset to my system caused by consuming food that has been mumbled over by a Satanist. Mark 7:19 reassures me but I’m sure my mum (RIP) would have have cried into her soup if I fed her this ‘tainted’ meat.
Nigel GFF says
Apologies, dropped some capitals (He ….).
Rachel Cohen says
By not labeling food halal, the USDA–is promoting Islamic terrorism. Unless you’re a dog–Halal food–is not fit to eat.
Victoria says
Here is an online link with information on halal eating. https://www.zabihah.com/
Hummer says
What are they doing handling pork or am I confused. No hallel handling of my favorite which is pork or any other meat without a proper label.
Lynette says
If Authorities refuse to make halal labelling mandatory let them use Non-Hal labelling instead. The majority of people abhor, not only the un-stunning of animals, but the mudslime prayer over the animals, the way the animals are cruelly treated before killing etc. Plenty of evidence of the cruel treatment on youtube and other websites,
also people abhor the forcing of shariah law in our countries by stealth let alone the so called halal certification scam. Ev stun only when cameras are around! ery person is entitled to choose which method they prefer. Abbattoirs say yes, we stun all animals and poultry farms say the same, BUT they do not.
Buap says
Hmm… huge Tyson processing plants in Amarillo, Cedar Falls and elsewhere employ a majority of imported north African laborers – many Ethiopians and Somalis – doing those jobs “no one here wants to do”. The working conditions are horrendous according to reports. Permanent injuries to workers’ hands are prevalent. And the flow of immigrant labor continues, in spite of a high unemployment rate in the U.S. I wonder if these folks, being Muslim, are required by their faith to process meat according to Islamic law. I also wonder how much it would set the operators of these plants back, to upgrade their processes to make the jobs acceptable to American workers, and/or fully or partially automate the processes with advanced robotics. But I don’t wonder if mindless greed is destroying our economy and nation. The evidence is everywhere.
Tulip says
In the Book of Acts we are told three times (following the Council at Jerusalem) that gentile believers are to abstain from food sacrificed to idols. Mohammed’s father was named Abdullah (slave or servant of Allah), Allah being the god of the Quareshi, Mohammed’s family tribe or clan. Whether an idol is involved in any way may not be a matter for the US Government, as the American constitution explicitly rejected Christianity as the established religion of the US. Britain remained and remains officially Christian by the way. Nevertheless as the worship of Allah is inimical to Christianity, Christians should hesitate about eating halal meat because halal prayers uttered when animals are killed dedicate the meat to Allah. Better safe than sorry.
We should certainly be told whether meat is halal or not. The New Zealand meat industry is now 95% halal because much of its meat production is now exported to Muslim countries. There is no indication its halal status when NZ meat is exported to the UK, still one of its main markets. NZ refuse to declare the halal status of meat. A large proportion of domestic UK meat production is also halal, and is also not marked as such.