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Brits overwhelmingly support banning burqa despite French hoopla

Sep 1, 2016 9:06 am By Christine Douglass-Williams

Brits overwhelmingly support banning the Islamic burqa, by a ratio of two to one. “The poll comes after a row in France over a woman who was forced to undress by armed police.”

That row became a media circus, with accusations about human rights violations. Meanwhile, the authenticity of the woman who all too readily shed her burkini covering was hardly questioned. We questioned her motives on Jihad Watch, as did another article in the UK Sun.

But the mainstream media flew into full “Islamophobia” mode. Amar Lasfar, rector at the Lille-Sud mosque and president of the Union of Islamic Organisations in France, said that Muslims were “being used as ‘scapegoats’ for Islamic State’s (ISIS) bloody attacks in France.” According to a Simon Wiesenthal Europe investigation, the true face of the Union of Islamic Organizations of France is one of “antisemitism, advocacy and financing of terrorism and the call to jihad.”

The deception of stealth jihadists knows no bounds.

The Brits’ opinion of the burqa is a step in the right direction — of standing up for democracy, resisting Sharia norms and defending human rights.

The burqa is not simply a religious garment, but a “visual Islamist symbol—one that is ostentatiously anti-secularist and misogynist.”

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Pictured are women in niqabs, which are far more common in the West than actual burqas, and are often confused with them. When the British speak of banning the burqa, they almost certainly are referring primarily to the niqab, as well as to the burqa itself. “British public overwhelmingly support banning the Islamic burqa by two to one”,  by Jon Stone, Independent UK, August 31, 2016:

The British public want to ban Muslim women from wearing the Islamic veil or burqa by an overwhelming margin of more than two-to-one, a poll has found.

Research by YouGov found a huge proportion of the public had no qualms about telling women what to wear, with 57 per cent in favour of a ban and just 25 per cent against.

18-24 year olds were the only age group to oppose a ban; all others were in favour, with the oldest 65+ group backing the prohibition by a startling 78 per cent to 12. All major political parties also had a plurality of voters in favour of a ban.

Ukip leadership candidate Lisa Duffy has called for a ban on the Islamic veil; Nigel Farage issued a similar call on 2010 but the party has spoken little on the issue in recent years.

The polling comes amid controversy over the banning of “burkini” modest swimwear on beaches in a number of French municipalities. A video emerged last week of armed French police forcing a woman to undress after she was spotted wearing the clothing.

A separate question asked by YouGov found that 46 per cent of people wanted to ban the burkini, while just 30 per cent opposed such a measure. The French ban has been declared illegal by the country’s courts.

A number of European countries have legislated to ban or restrict things associated with the Islamic faith. In 2009 the Swiss public voted in a referendum to ban the construction of Islamic mosques with minarets.

France has also banned full face coverings in 2010, on security grounds, a ban that also includes the burqa. France also separately bans headscarves that do not cover a person’s face in public schools, on secularist ground. The French prime minister Manuel Valls says he wants the ban extended to universities….

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  1. concerned canadian says

    Sep 1, 2016 at 9:11 am

    utterly ridiculous

    even a dude can walk around act like a penguin

    when will the madness stop ?

    maybe when we stop being PC pussies

    • Westman says

      Sep 1, 2016 at 12:46 pm

      Perhaps the best solution is to replace “burqa” laws with one prohibiting any clothing in public that purposefully impedes the ability to identify the wearer, whether male or female. With some modifications for special circumstances this could work.

      Banks are already being robbed and other crimes have been committed by men wearing burqas. Google it.

      The purpose for such a law is safety for the larger society from criminals and terrorists. The majority will support it.

      • gravenimage says

        Sep 1, 2016 at 4:29 pm

        Westman wrote:

        Perhaps the best solution is to replace “burqa” laws with one prohibiting any clothing in public that purposefully impedes the ability to identify the wearer…
        ………………………

        The problem with this is that that means we would have to ban Carnival in Venice, in Rio, and in New Orleans; the Mummers Parade in Philadelphia and elsewhere; all Hallowe’en parades; and many outdoor theatrical performances–really, this would be just the beginning.

        Let’s just ban the bloody Burqa.

        • Westman says

          Sep 1, 2016 at 9:30 pm

          I hear you. Carnival would come under “special circumstances”.

        • Bob says

          Sep 2, 2016 at 6:24 pm

          And the rest of the islamic undermining of our culture – keep ’em out!

      • Tony says

        Sep 1, 2016 at 6:15 pm

        do the easy and best thing to protect the public, especially the women,, ban muslims, send to the mid east

        • solange silverman says

          Sep 2, 2016 at 4:05 pm

          Yes, but that will not help Muslim women, those who wish to escape, that is.

  2. Angemon says

    Sep 1, 2016 at 9:14 am

    18-24 year olds were the only age group to oppose a ban; all others were in favour, with the oldest 65+ group backing the prohibition by a startling 78 per cent to 12.

    Pretty much like with the Brexit vote, IIRC.

    • Mirren10 says

      Sep 1, 2016 at 9:16 am

      Yep. Us oldies are the only ones with any common sense. 🙂

      • vicki says

        Sep 1, 2016 at 11:56 am

        The youngsters have been brainwashed with multiculturalism!

        • Lion of Judah's Cub says

          Sep 1, 2016 at 3:38 pm

          The young have been propagandized with a totalitarian ideology that seeks to destroy anyone who does not adhere to it. The only sin or crime is “racism” or “bigotry” against the protected group. By their false definitions Christians, Jews, Europeans and any other non-idealized groups are racists or bigots.

          Judeo-Christian principles are not the basis of western civilization, according to the propaganda taught in the schools, but the downfall of mankind.

          Good is evil and evil is good. Terrorism is love. Burka is freedom.

      • bytheway says

        Sep 1, 2016 at 12:25 pm

        So right Mirren.

        • Jay says

          Sep 4, 2016 at 1:21 am

          Thumbs up Brother!

      • DefenderofIslm says

        Sep 1, 2016 at 4:01 pm

        May be you brainwashing into being anti Islamist and anti moslim. I than a 66 year old white male who is against just than ban.

        • gravenimage says

          Sep 1, 2016 at 4:34 pm

          “DefenderofIslm” wrote:

          May be (sic) you brainwashing (sic) into being anti Islamist and anti moslim. I than (sic) a 66 year old white male who is against just (sic) than (sic) ban.
          ………………………………..

          “DefenderofIslm’s” being a “66 year old white male”–assuming this is the case–is meaningless here. He is a Muslim defender of Islamic norms.

          Would he defend the right of Infidels to live free of Shari’ah? Of course not.

        • Mirren10 says

          Sep 1, 2016 at 5:26 pm

          I asked you before, what’s slm, and why are you defending it ? 🙂

        • Mirren10 says

          Sep 1, 2016 at 5:30 pm

          ”May be you brainwashing into being anti Islamist and anti moslim.”

          Nope. I’ve just read your koran, the life of your putrid ‘prophet’, and observed the behaviour of your co-religionists.

          Found a wife yet ? Does she wear a burkini ? Hope so. 🙂

        • Baucent says

          Sep 2, 2016 at 6:58 am

          I’m a defender of good English spelling.

    • Praeceptor Maximus says

      Sep 1, 2016 at 9:22 am

      You recall correctly.

    • berserker says

      Sep 1, 2016 at 10:46 am

      They will be the leaders within the next decade. That bodes well for the acceptance of Islam in the West. Allah has indeed made the Dhimmis utterly stupid.

    • Anne Smith says

      Sep 2, 2016 at 3:03 pm

      They have all been indoctrinated by the leftards who teach in the schools and colleges. They have been taught to think that any views which hold that the indigenous population should be catered for before incomers is “racist”, despite no race being specified or indicated.
      Any argument against uncontrolled immigration or against allowing illegal immigrants in without sanctions is also classed as “racist” by the lefties who dominate the MSM and the education system.
      This is why our young people cannot see the damage that is being caused by allowing vast numbers of people from a primitive culture to swamp our country and bring their own primitive customs and tribal alliances with them.
      The great artistic, religious, architectural and musical heritage of Europe is threatened by this influx of backward non integrating immigrants.

  3. Praeceptor Maximus says

    Sep 1, 2016 at 9:27 am

    Women in Saudi Arabia are all covered in black from head to toe, so those who want to dress in full neqab should make their way to Saudi Arabia. France, England or any other European country is no place for Islamic garb. God, when will this nightmare that is Islam end!

    • berserker says

      Sep 1, 2016 at 10:50 am

      It will not end. Look at the result for the 18-24 year olds. They are perfectly fine with Islam. They will be our leaders within the next decade. Islam is here to stay.
      – https://youtu.be/POJdu4HV-Ng

      • jeremysteering@gmail.com says

        Sep 1, 2016 at 12:58 pm

        You are so right, Berserker. The biggest problem we face with Islam (among many, many) is that unlike Christianity and other religions, which get weaker and have less and less “faithful” with every generation, every generation of Muslims is more radical than the one before. And not in any religious sense that any rational, civilised 21st-century person would understand – but in following a brutal, intolerant “religion” unchanged from the seventh century deserts of Saudi Arabia. In fact, a totalitarian ideology masquerading as a religion. And each new generation has more fanatics than the last, whose only aim in life is to bring death and destruction to every corner of the world in pursuit of a fantasy that eventually the whole of civilisation will submit to Islam, by force or otherwise.

        No amount of education or “feelgood” courses or workshops can ever change this. It’s written and they obey it without question.

      • Jay says

        Sep 4, 2016 at 1:29 am

        islam is not here to stay despite what is being done. Matthew 16 talks about the gates of hell not prevailing-so, islam will NEVER prevail.

        All we need to do is to preach JESUS and islam is gone from our society in the way darkness will NEVER be able to DEFEAT LIGHT!

        Immediately the light (JESUS) is switched ON, the darkness disappears!

        Preach Christ JESUS!

  4. Lawrence says

    Sep 1, 2016 at 9:30 am

    The young kids are really stupid. But their middle-aged parents – my age group – made them that way. We taught them nothing, and now we reap the consequences.

    • Lion of Judah's Cub says

      Sep 1, 2016 at 4:06 pm

      From a spiritual perspective, young people were not protected from evil by the Our Father prayer in school once it was prohibited, and they were indoctrinated by occult games and entertainment including Pokemon (pocket monsters) and Harry Potter (which contains real occult incantations and spells). They are now spiritually compromised and diabolically disoriented.

      For instance, Pokemon is based on Japanese occult characters. Consider how violent and vile the Japanese military was during WWII as a result of their pagan philosophy.

      Targeting young people with satanic/occult games or entertainment is termed the “beautiful side of evil” by a former satanist/luciferian.

      These prettily disguised evils are used to seduce the weak or unsuspecting. Much like a beautiful eyed young woman in a niqab can seduce an unsuspecting public into sympathizing with her evil undisclosed agenda.

      • gravenimage says

        Sep 1, 2016 at 4:36 pm

        Pokemon is not violent–no one is slaughtering people in the name of Pikachu.

        Would that we could say the same about Islam…

        • Lion of Judah's Cub says

          Sep 1, 2016 at 5:00 pm

          Gravenimage,

          I believe that Pokemon is spiritually dangerous and opens young people to false teachings and spiritual deception. I have young relatives who grew up addicted to Pokemon. They believe the religion of peace fallacy.

          I am quoting the following from Charisma News:

          Is Pokemon Go Evil, Dangerous or Demonic?

          7:00AM EDT 7/15/2016 Michael Snyder

          Everything that we do, whether it is a “game” or not, trains us or conditions us in various ways. Often seeing something in a movie or coming across something in a video game can spark an interest or open a door into something deeper. For instance, occult organizations admit that one of their best recruiting tools is Harry Potter. After reading the books or watching the movies, many have found themselves curious about the occult world.
          …
          The following comes from the Christian Apologetics and Research Ministry…

          Is Pokemon dangerous? Potentially, yes it is. It conditions the child who plays the game into accepting occult and evolutionary principles. Haunter can hypnotize, eat a person’s dreams and drain their energy. Abra reads minds. Kadabra emits negative energy that harms others. Gastly induces sleep. Gengar laughs at peoples’ fright. Nidoran uses poison. The psychic type of Pokemon are among the strongest in the game. Charmander, Haunter, Ivysaur, Kadabra and many more evolve. The children are taught to use these creatures to do their will by invoking colored energy cards, fights and commands. Much of it is reminiscent of occult and eastern mysticism.

          But it goes even farther than that. According to occult expert Bill Schnoebelen, Pokemon players engage in all sorts of activities that would be considered deeply occult if they were done in real life…

          Like many video games, Pokémon is riddled with occult concepts. Concepts like “magical stones,” teleportation, ghosts, all-seeing eye, psychic power and using spirits to achieve results in the real world are all givens in this game realm. All of this is contrary to scripture. The Pokémon games and comics, etc., teach what I have called a magic worldview that is completely opposed to the Bible.

          The Magic Worldview is the idea, common to all occult belief systems, that there is not really any sovereign Deity over creation. Instead, creation is ruled by a series of occult laws. In a sense, the universe is like a cosmic vending machine. As long as you put in the right coin (ritual or spell) you automatically achieve the desired result.

          Particularly disturbing is the concept that children are being trained to “capture” demon-like creatures, train and control them, and use them against others. Many believe this very closely mirrors what many high-level occultists attempt to do with real demons. Here is more from Bill Schnoebelen…

          The magician works from within a specially prepared magic circle which supposedly protects him from the demon as long as he stays inside it. He uses special magical weapons like a wand, staff or sword to threaten the demon and make it do his or her bidding. Once the ritual is successful, supposedly the demon belongs to the magician to do his or her bidding—as long as the stipulations of their contract are kept by sorcerer. Often the demon will grant the magician occult powers or give him or her special talismans to control others. This is a large part of high magic.

          Now, there is barely a dime’s worth of difference between this and what goes on in the “make-believe” Pokémon universe!

          As the Pokemon Go craze continues to sweep the nation, it is inevitable that this game will be hotly debated in Christian circles.

          And just like with the Harry Potter books and movies, many will become extremely upset at the suggestion that there might actually be something wrong with Pokemon Go.

          But we all have a responsibility to evaluate what we are feeding into our minds, and this is especially true if you are a parent of young children.

        • gravenimage says

          Sep 2, 2016 at 7:27 pm

          Lion of Judah’s Cub wrote:

          Gravenimage,

          I believe that Pokemon is spiritually dangerous and opens young people to false teachings and spiritual deception. I have young relatives who grew up addicted to Pokemon. They believe the religion of peace fallacy.
          ……………………………….

          Dear Lion of Judah’s Cub, I imagine they believe in the “religion of peace” bs because they have been on the receiving end of a lot of whitewash and Taqiyya, not because they’ve played Pokemon.

          You’ll be glad to know that pious Muslims *really* hate Pokemon:

          “Saudi Issues ‘Fatwa’ Against Pokemon”

          http://abcnews.go.com/International/story?id=81345

          This should not surprise.

          More:

          Everything that we do, whether it is a “game” or not, trains us or conditions us in various ways. Often seeing something in a movie or coming across something in a video game can spark an interest or open a door into something deeper. For instance, occult organizations admit that one of their best recruiting tools is Harry Potter…
          ………………………………

          Do you know that one of the staunchest Anti-Jihadists here at Jihad Watch is poster Dumbledore’s Army, whose username is taken from the Harry Potter books?

          She is also a devout Christian who is heavily involved in her church.

          I don’t believe that stories about goodness and bravery defeating evil are bad things–just the opposite, in fact. You may, of course, choose to disagree.

          And you do realize that Pokemon and Harry Potter are *imaginary*? If people choose to believe that any fiction or game is real it can be unhealthy–but it is also astonishingly rare, and is usually indicative of other problems.

          Of course, it is your prerogative to consider fiction dangerous and to prevent your own children from having access to it.

          I prefer to focus on the terrible threat of Islam–but we can choose to disagree.

        • Jay says

          Sep 4, 2016 at 1:12 am

          The driving force in pokemon finds fulfilment in islam. Both pokemon and islam are driven by the same spirit: satan himself.

      • Veka Fitzfrancis says

        Sep 2, 2016 at 4:45 pm

        Lion, I’m an anthropologist, and while some of the more unusual and beloved of the Japanese folklore inspired pokemon, neither a video game of digital animals nor a game like Dungeons & Dragons, or Harry Porter, turn people away from the truth of the Word of God. Stop blaming other peoples’ clean fun and focus the blame where it belongs, on an ideology that permits and encourages rape murder and slave taking.

        • gravenimage says

          Sep 2, 2016 at 7:29 pm

          Agreed, Veka.

        • Jay says

          Sep 4, 2016 at 1:16 am

          It doesn’t matter who you are, NO ONE GETS EXPOSED TO DEMONIC ACTIVITY AND NOT OPENS HIM/HERSELF to demonic influences.

          That was why JESUS ALWAYS ordered them to be quiet (Read: Unbroken Curses, He Came to Set the Captives free or A Vessel unto Honour by Rebecca Brown MD.

      • Pokemon Trainer says

        Sep 2, 2016 at 8:24 pm

        This is absolutely hilarious and absolute rubbish! I am in the 18 – 24 age group and I’ve played most Pokemon games and I am currently playing Pokemon Go and I’m not on this website by accident! I also love Harry Potter, and guess what, Im not a modern liberal in the slightest.

        The one who speaks the real TRUTH here is Lawrence, in the UK, and the western world in general I think, kids are taught nothing subtsantial by their parents. No morals, no wisdom, no love for your neighbour, no spirituality, NO LIFE SKILLS! MOST YOUNG PEOPLE IN THE UK CANNOT COOK OR MAINTAIN A HOUSE! They never had to lift a finger in their lives, their parents spoil them silly. On top of this, they then absorb the mainstream media and entertainment that teaches them selfish values.Islam grows strong because it has morals (or lack of) and memes and beliefs to pass down. There is a popular and influential British entertainment and comedy culture, and things like tea etc but the problem is this is all surface culture, it does not imbue a meaning or a purpose to life, the one key thing a society and people need, a purpose.The west currently has nothing, no meaningful cultures or beliefs, not even a love or loyalty to family. Only decadence and gluttony. Once again, Lawrence is positively right, and this current generation can only most likely breed even more empty human beings…..

        • Jay says

          Sep 4, 2016 at 1:39 am

          WELL-SAID! They pretend to love JESUS who is PURPOSE PERSONIFIED and gang up against HIM.

          NO GANG-UP AGAINST JESUS SHALL PROSPER.

  5. Richard Paulsen says

    Sep 1, 2016 at 9:31 am

    Ban islam in Europe as nazism in Germany. They are two sides of the same coin.

    • dumbledoresarmy says

      Sep 1, 2016 at 9:45 am

      Yes.

      And, indeed, most people aren’t aware that Hitler was to some extent inspired by or drew upon Islamic ideas. There was a Muslim writer in India whose work – presumably in translation – Hitler had *read* – and admired – before (or while) he wrote Mein Kampf. They even met, and approved heartily of each other.

      Andrew Bostom has written about this at some length.

      http://www.andrewbostom.org/blog/2008/01/25/verboten-discussion—hitler-muhammad-and-islam/

      http://www.andrewbostom.org/blog/2008/10/22/hitler-and-jihad-part-1/

      “…Perhaps the earliest recorded evidence of Hitler’s serious interest in the jihad was provided by Muhammad ‘Inayat Allah Khan [who adopted the pen name “al-Mashriqi”—“the Orientalist” or “the Sage of the East”].

      ” Born in the Punjab in 1888, al-Mashriqi was a Muslim polymath who attended Cambridge on a government scholarship, and excelled in the study of oriental languages, mathematics, engineering, and the sciences.

      “Not only did Mashriqi translate the standard abridged version of Mein Kampf (then
      commonly available) from English into Urdu; during one of his sojourns in Europe, which included time spent in Berlin, he met Hitler in the early years of the Fuehrer’s leadership of the National Socialist [Nazi] Party.

      “Their meeting took place in 1926 at the National Library.

      “Here is the gist of Mashriqi’s report on his interaction with Hitler as described in a letter to the renowned scholar of Indian Islam, J.M.S. Baljon:

      “I was astounded when he [Hitler] told me that he knew about my Tazkirah. The news flabbergasted me. . . I found him very congenial and piercing. He discussed Islamic Jihad with me in details.

      “In 1930 I sent him my Isharat concerning the Khaksar movement with a picture of a spade-bearer Khaksar at the end of that book. In 1933 he started his Spade Movement…”.

      END QUOTE.

      Are you aware that Churchill (who was very well informed about Islam, I think both from personal experience and observation of Muslim conduct in Afghanistan/ the ‘northwest frontier’, and during the war against the Mahdi in Sudan, and in Iraq in the early 1930s) upon reading Mein Kampf, compared it to the Quran? He called “Mein Kampf” “the new Koran of faith and war”.

      And interestingly enough, two people as different as Karen Blixen and Jung both, as they watched the rise of Nazism, were also reminded of Islam.

      Furthermore: after the fall of the Third Reich many fugitive Nazis scuttled off to the dar al Islam, where they were welcomed with open arms, and where many of them happily warbled the shahada. They abandoned Hitler’s ersatz knock-off or adaptation of Islam, for the original from which he had borrowed. One such was an Islamophile and rabidly Jewhating orientalist scholar, Johann von Leers; but there were a *lot* of others, both great and small.

      • Richard Paulsen says

        Sep 1, 2016 at 11:49 am

        Thank you. Knew about Sir Winston Churchill and his bright mind. As well concerning nazism, communism as islam.
        The rest is totally new information to me. And most interesting and enlightening.
        It angers me I did not know about it before. But you are never too old to learn, are you?
        Having had thoughts about influence. Knew about Richard Wagner Music on Hitler. Must have been a deeper influence.
        Greatful. Will study the links closer. Thank you.

        • gravenimage says

          Sep 1, 2016 at 4:45 pm

          Not every fan of Wagner’s music is a Nazi, Richard–nor, indeed, was Wagner himself. Here is Parsifal:

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=So8F3QToniI

          But yes–Hitler was much inspired by Islam. Notable, as well, that while Muslims hate and despise Infidels, they often make an exception for Hitler:

          “Hitler honored in upscale mall in modern, moderate Turkey”

          https://www.jihadwatch.org/2013/01/hitler-honored-in-upscale-mall-in-modern-moderate-turkey

          There are many, many more examples.

      • DefenderofIslm says

        Sep 1, 2016 at 4:39 pm

        Hitler was than practicing black magic witch who did than black magic ritual where the anti christ occupied Hitler. Since the late 1920th all nazie election rally where pagan rite which convert huge number of people to the nazi cause. Watch u tude of that time peroid than look at faces of the people except the women if Hitler have said to one of then I want to have sex with you she would have agree to have sex with Hitler even if she was married to than other man, that man would have to agree to it. The murder of 6 million jew was than blood sacrifice to Satan.

        • Champ says

          Sep 1, 2016 at 4:50 pm

          Hitler certainly was evil, but ‘prophet’ muhammad (perdition be upon him) even had him beat–now THAT guy was full of the devil!

          Odd that defenderofislam recognizes that Hitler was an evil guy, but not muhammad? Yes, very odd.

        • gravenimage says

          Sep 1, 2016 at 5:15 pm

          The incoherent “DefenderofIslm” wrote:

          Hitler was than (sic) practicing black magic witch who did than (sic) black magic ritual where the anti christ occupied Hitler.
          …………………………..

          Why would “DefenderofIslm” say this? His coreligionists *love* Hitler:

          “Germany: Muslims scream “Adolf Hitler” and “Allahu akbar,” make Nazi salute”

          https://www.jihadwatch.org/2016/04/germany-muslims-scream-adolf-hitler-and-allahu-akbar-make-nazi-salute

          More:

          Since the late 1920th (sic) all nazie (sic) election rally where pagan rite which convert huge number of people to the nazi cause.
          …………………………..

          Hitler did not run for election in the 1920s.

          More:

          There Watch u tude (sic) of that time peroid (sic) than (sic) look at faces of the people except the women if Hitler have said to one of then (sic) I want to have sex with you she would have agree to have sex with Hitler even if she was married to than (sic) other man, that man would have to agree to it.
          …………………………..

          There was no “u tude” during the 1930s or 1940s.

          As for the sexual reference, that is exactly the case with Muslims and Infidel women. Their marriages are considered null and void if captured by Muslims.

          More:

          The murder of 6 million jew was than (sic) blood sacrifice to Satan.
          …………………………..

          Well, *this* is interesting–a Muslim in the West who does not pose as a Holocaust denier.

          By the way, when Muslims slaughter Jews–as they are enjoined to do–who are *they* sacrificing their victims to?

        • gravenimage says

          Sep 1, 2016 at 5:24 pm

          Yes, it *is* odd, Champ–especially given how many of “DefenderofIslm’s” coreligionists are fans of Hitler.

          My guess is that it is because he grew up here in the civilized United States–he knows that he might be able to slip by the idea that Muhammed was a decent guy with uninformed and hopeful Infidels, but knows that he won’t find many Americans buying a lauding of Hitler.

    • LeeZee says

      Sep 1, 2016 at 8:19 pm

      Please note that Nazism has crawled out of the crypt in Germany. And it’s not even “Neo”, just the same old, same old. One might say that the acceptance of Islam Jihad is the “Neo’ as it requires the same mindset and goals…World domination and annihilation of Jews wherever they live. Note that Argentina, which embraced fugitive Nazis after WWII, are reaping the benefit of encrypted generational bias/bigotry evidenced by a gang of Nazi uniformed students attacking Jews. Blind hatred is taking over,once again and the World once again turns to scapegoating. Sooner than before, however, gays, Christians, “others”, are in the victim pool. The Islamophiles think they will be immune to extinction by knuckling under, but eventually they will lose at least their freedom and finally their lives.

  6. Jaladhi says

    Sep 1, 2016 at 9:43 am

    Brits have no guts to ban burqa. For that matter even USA and Canada won’t/can’t ban burqa!

    • Jay Boo says

      Sep 1, 2016 at 10:30 am

      Muslim Burqa Intoxication.

      It is only a matter of time until some non-infidel goes way off the PC reservation out of frustration and reacts to the inevitable next attack which will invite a counter-attack from supremacist Muslims who are used to getting their way from politicians through extortion and intimidation. Then the fireworks will begin and what was once our problem exclusively will become their problem as well as Britain vomits out the results of overconsumption of Muslims.

      Muslim Hangovers are sometimes more non-linear and unpredictable than even the cleverest politician schemes predict.

      • gravenimage says

        Sep 1, 2016 at 5:29 pm

        Jay Boo wrote:

        Muslim Burqa Intoxication.

        It is only a matter of time until some non-infidel goes way off the PC reservation out of frustration…
        ……………………..

        Right–because Muslims are always in danger of phantom “backlash”…

        • Charli Main says

          Sep 2, 2016 at 4:09 am

          With respect Gi, you can only poke a dog with a stick so often before the dog ,in desperation, retaliates.

        • gravenimage says

          Sep 2, 2016 at 7:33 pm

          Charli, there are always those who claim that Infidels are on the verge of victimizing Muslims.

          What I hope is that we start consistently enforcing our laws–if we did that, the threat of Islam would diminish markedly. *That’s* the “backlash” I want to see.

  7. jeremysteering@gmail.com says

    Sep 1, 2016 at 10:00 am

    People are finally waking up to the reality that this isn’t about women’s freedom to dress as they want, but clothing as a symbol of a totalitarian ideology that wants to take over the civilised world.

    I am struck by the difference between US politicians like Obama, and the French, like Nicolas Sarkozy. The West can choose between having a president like Obama, who refuses to say one negative word about Islam, and calls the Muslim call to prayer “one of the prettiest sounds on Earth at sunset”, and said recently that it is “important for Western countries to avoid impeding Muslim citizens from practising religion as they see fit, for instance, by dictating what clothes a Muslim woman should wear”.

    Or a president like Nicolas Sarkozy (former president but running again) who said: “The burqa is not a sign of religion, it is a sign of subservience. We cannot accept to have in our country women who are prisoners behind netting, cut off from all social life, deprived of identity.”

    • berserker says

      Sep 1, 2016 at 10:52 am

      You mean this guy: https://youtu.be/I8yaiN6ew_g

      – Sarkozy is trying to undercut support for the National Front. He will say anything to get elected.

      • jeremysteering@gmail.com says

        Sep 1, 2016 at 12:45 pm

        I understand totally where you’re coming from. He has a dark side for sure, and like all politicians says what he thinks might get votes! But in a world that everywhere seems to be in denial that it’s facing the biggest threat to its existence since the Nazis, and in the absence of anyone else having the courage to speak out, I’d have to take my chances with someone like Sarkozy – but also with many reservations, definitely.

    • gravenimage says

      Sep 1, 2016 at 5:32 pm

      Sarkozy is *hardly* perfect, but has been better than some European leaders on facing the Jihad threat. France could–and has–done worse.

  8. Jay Boo says

    Sep 1, 2016 at 10:11 am

    MUSLIM CHILD RAPE GANGS are furious.
    This will make it much harder to hide British infidel children.

  9. August West says

    Sep 1, 2016 at 10:16 am

    I am not in favor.of.banning things generally.

    I wold say let them wear what they want and require law abiding adult US citizens to carry at all times.

    • KnowThyEnemy says

      Sep 1, 2016 at 1:25 pm

      Do you realize that Muslims also can, and do, carry guns?

      The Islamists play manipulative games to impose Islam on everyone, and so one has to know exactly what it is about something (e.g. niqab) that makes it necessary to ban it. Islam isn’t simply a religion. It is also a government with its own laws. This government, its political ideology, and its laws (Sharia), does not recognize the existing laws/ ideology, and aims to conquer those and replace them with its own.

      When a woman wears a burqa/niqab, she is saying that she, and her master, submit to this competing, hostile government and its laws, not the existing law of the land. When the stupid non-Muslims allow them to wear niqabs, they literally allow a hostile foreign govt to impose its laws on the land.

      Once non-Muslims get used to seeing niqabs everywhere, then the Islamists start the next phase of their war against us. This is when the start calling niqab wearing women “decent, modest women” and those not wearing niqabs ‘whores’. Their men sexually assault those not wearing niqabs, their leaders blame the women for being immodest, and the complicit media helps them spread this message. (And don’t forget that those men are going to have guns on them too.) Now since no woman can afford to get physically assaulted, everyone starts wearing the veil. Sharia imposition complete!

      The niqab is only one example where Islamists try to impose Sharia (their law) on people. You will find them trying to conquer non-Muslims in every area imaginable. For example, complaining about liquor and pork, and demanding halal food. Once we meet this demand, then they enter the next phase and start attacking anyone eating non-halal (See this- https://www.jihadwatch.org/2016/08/france-muslims-brutally-attack-couple-for-ordering-ham-on-their-pizza ).

      Worst of all, when we let mosques be built, we literally allow this foreign govt to have its seat and its army post in our area. Can you imagine anything dumber than that?

      The error that non-Muslims make (e.g. France) when they ban the niqab, is in not properly explaining why it is being banned. It is this failure to explain that results in the ban being opposed by people, including those who understand the repressive nature of Islam.

  10. Stephanie says

    Sep 1, 2016 at 10:35 am

    It’s a garment that tells their Muslim men who to sexually molest, rape, or take as sex-slaves and who not to! It is an affront to all non-Muslims and is sick! Muslim women are just as, or more so, culpable than the men; their husbands who they praise for raping women, their sons who they raise to believe in this way! Muslim women are not just poor oppressed things, but are contributors to this vile belief system, while they play the pious oppressed female when necessary to fool the non-Muslims. Insidious! And it’s about time people started waking up to this.

    • overman says

      Sep 1, 2016 at 1:28 pm

      Yes, stephanie, and these muslim women have been brainwashed from birth into believing that ‘allah’ created them as inferior beings to men, so, without question, they just blindy accept the mysogyny of men.

    • gravenimage says

      Sep 1, 2016 at 5:33 pm

      That’s *exactly* what it means, Stephanie.

  11. biff says

    Sep 1, 2016 at 12:06 pm

    Everyone supports a ban on this except for Muslims themselves and their Progressive enablers.

  12. Frank De Munter says

    Sep 1, 2016 at 1:18 pm

    If we would treat our women the way muslim treat theirs, we would be in prison. And jusltly so. I can only feel an enormous pity for these victims of a sexually depraved horde of schizofrenic psychopaths.

  13. David says

    Sep 1, 2016 at 1:38 pm

    Unfortunately, muslim women have no say in the matter. They are told, incorrectly, that they must cover up. What woman in her right mind would voluntarily want to wear such a burdensome garment?

    • gravenimage says

      Sep 1, 2016 at 5:35 pm

      While some Muslim women are forced to wear the slave rag, there *are* those who want to enforce it on others.

  14. overman says

    Sep 1, 2016 at 1:55 pm

    Did anyone see this farce yesterday. Two braindead 18-24 brit actors actually set up a birkini experiment on a british beach. lt’s very anti-police and pro-islam, of course. Notice the number of muslims who came up to support the burkini woman [who is a muslim in real life, l believe]. l think it’s southend in UK, but it might as well be the middle-east lol.

    • gravenimage says

      Sep 1, 2016 at 5:55 pm

      *Morons*–assuming these are Infidels, and not Muslim agitators.

      Notice that most of those rushing in to accost the “police officer” were Muslim themselves.

      The greatest calumny was were the “police officer” grabs the “Muslim woman’s” clothing, ready to “rip her clothes off”. Given the fact that Muslims are *actually* raping Infidel women, this is perverse in the extreme.

      Don’t be surprised if edited clips of this wind up presented as the “real thing”.

      Oh, wait–I poked around a bit, and this has already happened. Here’s a Muslim site:

      “Police Officer in UK trying to rip off woman’s burkini..”

      http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x4qsr3f

      And here’s another one, which identifies this as having occurred in France, despite everyone speaking in English with obvious English accents:

      “Police Officer in France trying to rip off woman’s burkini”

      http://www.sajtv.com/2016/08/29/police-officer-in-france-trying-to-rip-off-womans-burkini/

      • overman says

        Sep 1, 2016 at 6:48 pm

        l’m glad l spotted this before the lies could spread..

    • jeremysteering@gmail.com says

      Sep 1, 2016 at 6:14 pm

      Someone should give these ignorant, dangerous fools some statistics which explain why the French are now fighting against all the symbols of the world’s most dangerous religion/ideology: 238 French citizens killed and 823 injured in two years.

  15. overman says

    Sep 1, 2016 at 2:02 pm

    They actually interviewed these morons on Sky News UK. The presenter/anchor Kay burley is a muslim apologist for Sky News, so, all three operating off one brain cell.

    • gravenimage says

      Sep 1, 2016 at 6:06 pm

      Yes–dhimmi tools, which was my first thought.

      They are hoaxsters involved with “Trollstation”. They have done uglier things, including false bomb scares and pointing fake guns at police officers.

  16. Christopher Winter says

    Sep 1, 2016 at 3:56 pm

    Discrimination is perfectly acceptable in a free society when the State has a compelling interest to discriminate. The first is that the Burqa is a technology to hide explosives that will disrupt social order. Second, society has a duty to discriminate against Islam as a religion to liberate women from the technology of servitude and invisibility. So, ban the burqa. Free women. Conserve public order from terrorism.

    • overman says

      Sep 1, 2016 at 6:57 pm

      Both excellent points. You could hide a dozen AR-15’s [mateen’s weapon of choice] under one of those tents.

  17. gravenimage says

    Sep 1, 2016 at 4:21 pm

    Brits overwhelmingly support banning burqa despite French hoopla
    ……………………….

    Good for the Brits. I hope they do ban that foul garment.

    • Richard Paulsen says

      Sep 1, 2016 at 5:41 pm

      ” Gravenimage says “: Yes, Wagner music has nothing with Nazism to do.

      • gravenimage says

        Sep 1, 2016 at 6:11 pm

        I know Wagner was indeed admired by some Nazis because of his themes of early Teutonic folktales, but he actually had nothing to do with Fascism.

        • Richard Paulsen says

          Sep 1, 2016 at 6:31 pm

          Agree. Right.

        • gravenimage says

          Sep 2, 2016 at 7:40 pm

          🙂

    • Carolyne says

      Sep 2, 2016 at 6:14 pm

      The first time I ever saw a creature in a burka was when I was sitting on a bench in Kensington Park in London. A creature in black was walking with a younger woman wearing a scarf and a little boy dressed in Western clothes. I started laughing and couldn’t stop. Only one other time did I have a laughing fit like this one and it was uncontrollable. The little boy came toward me, but the creature held him back and they went the other way.

      I think such clothing (If one can call it that) is a serious threat to the public. One cannot tell if there is a man, a woman, or two midgets, one standing on the other’s shoulders inside. Showing one’s face In public is a minimum of inconvenience and should be required for purposes of identification and safey, not to mention freeing the slave underneath. .

  18. Champ says

    Sep 1, 2016 at 4:46 pm

    The islamic death cult certainly do dress the part, don’t they?

    • gravenimage says

      Sep 2, 2016 at 7:43 pm

      They sure do. It would be hard to imagine uglier clothes that do more to eradicate the individuality and humanity of their wearers.

  19. jeremysteering@gmail.com says

    Sep 1, 2016 at 5:01 pm

    A columnist in Britain’s Telegraph newspaper sums up the situation perfectly: someone should send a copy to Muslim-compliant Obama. It reads: France is a secularist nation “at war”, as President Hollande put it, against Islamic extremists. It has been attacked repeatedly by them recently, with 238 French citizens killed and 823 injured in the last two years alone. So it’s understandable why the French would want to fight back by making a robust statement about their values as a free Western nation.

  20. Username77 says

    Sep 1, 2016 at 8:31 pm

    Are there any specific laws on the books in the US governing burka/niqab wearing? For instance, in subways, schools, colleges, workplace? Does it differ state by state, city by city, or is a there a federally imposed blanket allowance in place?

    • gravenimage says

      Sep 2, 2016 at 7:52 pm

      I don’t believe there are any specific laws regarding Burqas on the books in the US at this point. There are some references to wearing masks and face coverings under certain circumstances that might pertain–but these are all vague.

      Here’s an article on the subject. (Unfortunately, the author is a total dhimmi):

      http://www.csmonitor.com/Commentary/Opinion/2014/0331/Beyond-burqa-bans-US-must-update-laws-on-face-veils

      “Eleven states and the District of Columbia already ban face coverings, either outright or under certain conditions. But these laws are a motley bunch, long on words but short on sense, and ill-equipped to provide actual security impartially in the modern world.

      “Three specifically exempt Mardi Gras revelers, one of them also including ‘minstrel troupes.'”

      • Username77 says

        Sep 2, 2016 at 9:56 pm

        Thank you for your reply, and the link. There is shockingly little information – other than the article you linked to – available online. One would think, even though the problem is (at least for now) more pertinent to Europe, the question would have generated more anticipatory discussion in the US. So, unfortunately, it seems there is little that, let’s say, a teacher could do if he/she just happened to get that rare American Muslim who veils – raise the question, and risk being branded an Islamophobe etc.

  21. epistemology says

    Sep 1, 2016 at 9:01 pm

    Banning full veils. burkinis etc. any kind of Muslim garment makes as much sense as banning swastikas. Those wearing them profess they’re adherents of a Nazi ideology.

    • Carolyne says

      Sep 2, 2016 at 6:20 pm

      Actually, swastikas aren’t banned, nor should they be unless you use a large one to cover your face. We have our First Amendment rights which allow one to wear a swastika. However, covering one’s face so as to be unidentifiable is a different matter and dangerous to the public.

      And while most of us would not like it want to do it, we are free to be adherents of a Nazi ideology. At least until Hillary Clinton packs the Supreme Court with her leftist pals and they subvert the Constitution.

  22. John Billings says

    Sep 1, 2016 at 9:18 pm

    A Muslim cannot be a citizen of a free nation.

    1. He is already a citizen of Dar-ul-Islam, “the House of Submission”, whereas the free world is Dar-ul-Harb, “the House of War”.

    2. He lives under Sharia, Islamic law, which he holds “divine” and above the law of any free nation.

    3. He makes his women wear the veil seemingly to practice freedom of religion, whereas that ugly shroud (and especially the burkini) enables him to identify and molest “infidel sluts”.

    This last point is explicit in the Qur’an 33.59 (Yusuf Ali): “O Prophet! Tell thy wives and daughters, and the believing women, that they should cast their outer garments over their persons (when abroad): that is most convenient, that they should be known (as such) and not molested.”
    Smackdown!

  23. Bill says

    Sep 1, 2016 at 9:21 pm

    Burqas belong in modern western societies like a pig farm belongs in Mecca.

    • Carolyne says

      Sep 2, 2016 at 6:21 pm

      A pig farm in Mecca would be neat. I love bacon.

      • Bill says

        Sep 2, 2016 at 7:39 pm

        I do too. Imagine a BLT concession a few blocks from Kaba. They’d probably find a long lost revelation that said BLT are allowed.

  24. Sandra says

    Sep 2, 2016 at 8:48 am

    In the US it is against the law to cover or obscure the license plate on your vehicle. I assume that law is because they want to be able to use it to identify the vehicle if it is used in a crime. If a person wears a face covering of any type and commits a crime, how is he/she supposed to be identified? I mean, if a person went into a convenience store with a full face ski mask, the behavior would be considered highly suspicious and the clerk might press the alarm button and/or reach for his concealed weapon. What is the difference between that and an islamic face mask. And those robes are perfect for hiding a multitude of weapons.

    • Carolyne says

      Sep 2, 2016 at 6:22 pm

      Sandra, there is no difference.

  25. solange silverman says

    Sep 2, 2016 at 4:03 pm

    I HATE those sacks they wear and what they stand for. However, here’s the problem being created by banning them; those women will never be able to leave the house. Who is going to help them to be set free? Unfortunately, it is next to impossible to change or to eradicate an ideology, especially when its followers like it just the way it is.

    • Carolyne says

      Sep 2, 2016 at 6:24 pm

      Who is going to set them free? Why, they are going to set themselves free once they are imprisoned by their masters and not able to leave home. Otherwise, I don’t care if they leave the house. They deserve what they get.

    • gravenimage says

      Sep 2, 2016 at 7:55 pm

      I don’t believe that allowing hordes of veiled women into the civilized world will wind up freeing them. It is more likely to end up enslaving *us*.

      • Charli Main says

        Sep 3, 2016 at 3:46 am

        100% agreed.

        As more Muslims infiltrate local and national political institutions in the “west”, sharia compliant laws are increasingly passed.

        Currently, Britain is a pretty good example of the ” legal” Islamisation of a country.

        West Indian acquaintances of mine have told me that the caliph of Londonistan plans to try to ban the world famous Brixton Carnival.

        Apparently all that ” naked” female flesh is degrading to women.

  26. solange silverman says

    Sep 2, 2016 at 4:18 pm

    Many of the young ones, who think they are “liberal,” still do not understand that this is not worn “by choice.” The “choice” is wear it or be harmed or even killed.

  27. Carolyne says

    Sep 2, 2016 at 6:04 pm

    Wearing this get-up is equivalent to wearing chains. It symbolizes that the person wearing it is the property of someone who has total control over them and requires them to wear this monstrosity. In Afghanistan, they were a leading cause of death of women because they could not see if the street were clear before crossing it. Many were and likely still are injured or killed by vehicles.

    It is amazing that in 2016 there is a culture which makes women walk around in garbage bags and other cultures which allow it. or even agree with it.

  28. gravenimage says

    Sep 2, 2016 at 7:58 pm

    Carolyn wrote:

    It is amazing that in 2016 there is a culture which makes women walk around in garbage bags and other cultures which allow it. or even agree with it.
    ………………………

    You aren’t wrong about garbage bags, Carolyn. Check out this photo:

    http://wp.patheos.com/blogs/mmw/files/2011/04/burka_muell_igfm-1024×723.jpg

  29. citycat says

    Sep 3, 2016 at 12:11 am

    I guess the younger generation has a higher ratio of Muslims, plus the integration of Muslims who create false friendliness with the dumb lack of awareness and lack of street wisdom infidels.
    Ban the burka, big deal, the Muslims might like it cos they can pretend to be normal to ease integration to create controlling contact with the dumb lack of awareness infidels.

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