“After ripping down the posters, video footage of the incident reveals that the professor came over to tell the students that they were not allowed to put up posters on that part of campus, because it was not a free speech zone.”
In reality, the entire United States of America is a free speech zone — at least for now, until people such as Margot Lovett get their way and forcibly silence those who putatively offend their Islamic supremacist and jihadist friends and allies.
“Gender studies prof rips down 9/11 memorial posters,” by Peter Van Voorhis, Campus Reform, September 9, 2016:
Members of the Young Americans for Freedom chapter at Saddleback College had their 9/11 memorial posters ripped down and shredded by the chair of the school’s History department.
According to The New Guard, the students were participating in the Young America’s Foundation “9/11: Never Forget” project, which involves planting 2,977 American flags to remember the lives lost 15 years ago on 9/11, when they were accosted by the professor, who proceeded to rip down their posters and direct them to confine their activities to one of the “free speech areas” on campus.
Lovett “blatantly infringed on our First Amendment rights by ripping down the posters.”
Prior to that altercation, The New Guard reported Wednesday that the school administration had cancelled the planned memorial service, prompting the YAF members to defy the prohibition by waking up before dawn to plant the flags and hang posters.The students told Campus Reform that the perpetrator was Margot Lovett, a gender studies and humanities professor who has a history of controversial actions on campus. Notably, OC Weekly reported in 2001 that she had promulgated a statement by the Black Radical Congress to her colleagues blaming “U.S. Imperialism” for the 9/11 attacks.
After ripping down the posters, video footage of the incident reveals that the professor came over to tell the students that they were not allowed to put up posters on that part of campus, because it was not a free speech zone.
“I was absolutely amazed that a professor believed that they had the authority to tear down posters put up by students in remembrance of the terrorist attacks,” Audra Leslie, the president of the Saddleback’s YAF chapter, told Campus Reform. “Instead of going to a higher level student office she took it upon herself to rid a student organization’s right to free speech on campus.”After the incident, the students talked with the campus police department, student government, and school administration. All of them were unsure of the legality of the professor’s actions and the way she approached the students….
Angemon says
Yup – the hallmark of the regressive left. No wonder they get along nicely with muslim “extremists”, who also do away with proper procedure in favour of mob rule.
jihad3tracker says
Hello again Angemon — Please allow me to parachute down into your front yard’s rosebushes ( OUCH — THORNY ! ! ! ) for a bit of urging to our fellow readers on JW:
If a little spare time appears today and ESPECIALLY TOMMORROW — 9/11, how about sending an email of support to YAF’s courageous Audra Leslie?
The situation could have quickly turned into violent thuggery, because the only thing a left-leaner more than trashing free speech is provoking a riot and ensuing police response.
Let’s also not forget to contact sedition loving professor Margot Lovett — but disguise the subject line of that email so she will actually open it.
Make it something idiotically pretentious like “New research in vectored privilege among white male upper tier Republicans” (because her special area of concentration is what we charitably call “soft studies”).
BE POLITE OF COURSE. Those of us here who want to devote a dollop of extra effort to shredding this fool can also include verses from the Qur’an, passages from the Hadith, and details about Muhammad’s sick life that cause Westernized Muslims to vomit when they actually learn how disgusting their main dude was.
maddog20-20 says
Ugly actions from an ugly person.
Angemon says
jihad3tracker posted:
“Hello again Angemon — Please allow me to parachute down into your front yard’s rosebushes ( OUCH — THORNY ! ! ! ) for a bit of urging to our fellow readers on JW”
You’re welcome to do so whenever you want, although I would advice you to aim for the grass or petunias instead 🙂
John Billings says
Answer: Sue. Sue this woman, this America-hating leftist Lovett, and if the College still does not allow the patriotic posters, sue the college as well. This is the United States, we have freedom of speech. and Allah be damned! Kafir akbar!
Rick Lee says
There should be lawsuits all over this country due to left wing intimidation and terror against conservative students. Don’t see why it is not happening.
maddog20-20 says
It will, shortly.
Debbie says
Yes! Sue! Nazi bitch says “sorry”. Right, liar. She should be forced to live under Shariah law
Shane says
Yes, muslims and leftists do have a lot in common as both groups believe they are the best and that they have the right to silence anyone who would dare to disagree with their dogma. Leftism is a religion for most of these America-hating fanatics, just as fundamentalist Islam is the motivation for Jihad and misogyny. Both muslims and leftists do not believe in freedom of speech, religion, the press, and the equality of the sexes (muslims believe men are superior, leftists believe women are superior)!
Alien Republican says
“In reality, the entire United States of America is a free speech zone”
I read that there are “safe zones” or “safe environment” in some campuses, shielded from reality and only allowing trickles of sugar coated truths.
Shane says
Yes, and no conservatives or Republicans are allowed into these safety zones. However, their are no safety zones at their future employment environments (unless they go to work for the Feds!).
David says
The “Professor” has committed a criminal act. And needs to be arrested, charged and jailed.
But this seems to be the direction that Obama and his cronies are steering this country towards.
It makes me retch and vomit!
Obama is a TRAITOR. And should have been put in a FEDERAL lock up long before now!
Allan says
Under what statute(s) do you propose to prosecute her?
duh swami says
Theft and destruction of private property sounds good……
Allan says
Except that those posters were attached to the school’s property. So it appears that the posters were abandoned—unless YAF had the permission of the student government, as Lovett claimed is required.
It’s by the way that just this week I tore down some posters of criminals who are calling their gang the “Socialist Equality Party”.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialist_Equality_Party_(United_States)
duh swami says
Allah…..Posters are school property? I don’t buy your theory…
Where does it say that in school rules?
Georg says
I’m gonna go with hate speech.
Praeceptor Maximus says
If Islam wins this war, it is not because of its superiority, it is because of people like Margot Lovett. God help us all.
Stephanie says
in blocking, the German ‘police’ is very good 🙂
https://twitter.com/schnellmann_org/status/774179499860635648
PRCS says
Whatever one thinks of the professor, she is (IMO) correct.
The school can, and does make rules about such things–and she did tell the YAF members that they couldn’t just place posters on the buildings (one can imagine how the building’s walls would look without those rules.
She didn’t need to mangle the posters, though, and should have simply told the YAF members to take the posters down and to follow established procedures in order to post them.
The entire United States is NOT a free speech zone–just come to my house and I will make that clear to you.
Kay says
Right, the intensity she had in taking them down and that she mangled them instead of just collecting them and giving them back indicates that she had more feelings and intentions than simply protecting the look of the building.
And why do you think she took that enforcement task on herself? That certainly can’t be part of her job.
PRCS says
I don’t think she was concerned with protecting the buildings appearance–rather compliance with the rules for such postings.
If she had an ulterior motive, it was not apparent from the video.
That the YAF folks intentionally posted them early in the morning (per the articles) may have been a motive.
Part of her job? Don’t know.
Appropriate authorities are unsure if her method was appropriate.
An alternative, for her, would have been to ask the campus police to enforce whatever the rules are.
Many questions.
Georg says
“I don’t think she was concerned with protecting the buildings appearance–rather compliance with the rules for such postings.”
I can tell you her “concern” wasn’t with “compliance with the rules for such postings.” In fact, as her hair might suggest she ain’t a “rules” kinda gal…
In all the years I was at univeristy, never did I see a professor personally and physically intervene with any such mundane infractions which are the purview of college bureaucracy. There is a link between her ideology and actions which is the crux of her impetus. In other words, her concern was not propriety but expession of an opinion she abhors.
PRCS says
You can’t factually tell me that, as it’s merely your opinion.
Having worked in campus security during my early college years, every time someone decided to place flyers on cars parked on campus grounds–without permission–we had to remove them and inform those posting the flyers where to request that permission.
I didn’t note from the video any ulterior motive on her part, but I do note:
” the school administration had cancelled the planned memorial service, prompting the YAF members to defy the prohibition by waking up before dawn to plant the flags and hang posters”
Georg says
Alright. And why did she crumple them?
PRCS says
Don’t know.
SoCalMike says
Oh please.
Buzz off.
If the subject was near and dear to her left wing heart she would not have lifted a finger or uttered a peep.
She’s an American-hating Left wing POS.
PRCS says
“IIf the subject was near and dear to her left wing heart she would not have lifted a finger or uttered a peep.”
You don’t know that.
gravenimage says
PRCS wrote:
I don’t think she was concerned with protecting the buildings appearance–rather compliance with the rules for such postings.
…………………………
Yup–a real stickler for rules of order.
Or perhaps she didn’t want to see any remembrance of the victims of 9/11. Why would I think this? Here is what she had to say just two days after the horror of 9/11:
On September 13, 2001, just 2 days after the attacks, Lovett told her fellow faculty members a press release from a New York group called the Black Radical Congress contained “most cogent analysis” of the attacks she’d seen.
In the release Lovett brought forth, the group blamed the United States for the attack. “One clearly sees the callousness and evil intent with which U.S. imperialism treats the lives and property of others, especially non-white peoples around the globe,” the release read.
When Lovett received pushback for her support for the Black Radical Congress statement blaming the US, she defended it by blaming racism, saying, “If the heading had said this was from the Republican National Committee or some Quaker group, I wonder if people would have been more accepting of what the statement said.”
http://dailycaller.com/2016/09/09/professor-who-blamed-us-for-911-rips-down-memorial-posters-as-college-blocks-event-video/
Evil b*tch.
PRCS says
GI,
The issue, here, involves the flyers and stickers, those who posted them, and their removal.
Like the Aug 22 Canadian plane crash story, there’s a lot of conclusion jumping going on here.
”the school administration had cancelled the planned memorial service, prompting the YAF members to defy the prohibition by waking up before dawn to plant the flags and hang posters”
——————–
“Editor’s note: On Friday, after the article was published, Saddleback College officials released a statement on the matter:
Saddleback College supports student clubs and their right to organize and exercise their freedom of speech. At the beginning of each academic year, in order to organize meetings and hold events, student clubs must go through an activation process that includes an orientation, the establishment of a club constitution and by-laws, and the appointment of a faculty adviser.
Young Americans for Freedom contacted the college’s student development office before fall semester classes began to state their intention to plan an event commemorating 9/11. The director made clear that the students would have to complete the club activation process before the event could be approved. As of today the students have not completed the requirements to form a club.
On September 8th, the students posted stickers and flyers on several campus buildings, which is a violation of South Orange County Community College District policy. The students also did this without first seeking approval from college administration. However, flyers that were posted by the students in the free speech areas on campus have not been removed by college personnel.
The director of student life has reached out to the students and invited them to meet and discuss the steps that can be taken to work collaboratively with the college in the future and in accordance with college and district policies and procedures.
In addition: “despite Lovett tearing down their posters, they inserted all their flags in the ground to mark the anniversary, and the flags remained up all day”
Whatever one thinks of the woman’s ideology…..
gravenimage says
PRCS wrote:
GI,
The issue, here, involves the flyers and stickers, those who posted them, and their removal.
…………………………….
With respect, PRCS, I believe it involves more than that.
You said that “I don’t think she was concerned with protecting the buildings appearance–rather compliance with the rules for such postings.
And, replying to SoCalMike:
“If she had an ulterior motive, it was not apparent from the video”
“IIf the subject was near and dear to her left wing heart she would not have lifted a finger or uttered a peep.”
You don’t know that.
……
I gave ample evidence that she was indeed an apologist for the savagery of 9/11–I cannot believe that this is not salient here, and that we should just suppose that she is a nitpicker when it comes to observing college rules on putting up posters.
PRCS says
“I believe it involves more than that”
And isn’t that where it should remain until all the facts are known?
She told the YAF folks why she was taking them down (although I think she should have had the campus police handle that), where the free speech area was, that everyone was welcome there, that they couldn’t just post those items on the wall, and where to seek permission to do so.
I’m not going to assume that she was doing anything more than that.
And, she didn’t even sound mean, to me; stating “sorry” to them.
I don’t know what her responsibilities are, in such an instance, or what actions she’s supposed to take, stating “that’s why I have to take them down”.
And, the YAF folks seem to have embellished their version of events.
http://www.thecollegefix.com/post/28952/
And, no, SoCalMike doesn’t know that. He was speculating.
I didn’t see any ideological intent on her part.
You might.
gravenimage says
I didn’t see any ideological intent on her part.
You might.
…………………..
PRCS, did you read her comments after 9/11? This is not speculation; it is fact.
PRCS says
Yes, and they are not obviously relevant to her taking those posters down.
Did you watch the video?
gravenimage says
Of course I watched the video.
The idea that her having claimed that the United States was responsible for 9/11 has no links to her ‘coincidentally’ tearing down memorial posters for the victims of that same atrocity strains credulity.
If you want to cling to this denial it is, of course, your prerogative.
PRCS says
And you are welcome to keep comparing apples to oranges.
Your conspiratorial theory is not backed up by the video.
She took down some items that had not been approved for posting.
Until ALL of the facts are known…..
gravenimage says
Knowing that this vicious bint *condoned* the horrific attacks of 9/11 is not a “conspiratorial theory”–it is fact. There is no evidence I can find that she ever retracted her comments in the fifteen years since she regurgitated her foul apologia for Jihad slaughter of innocent people here.
PRCS says
gravenimage says
September 11, 2016 at 1:47 pm
Knowing that this vicious bint *condoned* the horrific attacks of 9/11 is not a “conspiratorial theory”–it is fact. There is no evidence I can find that she ever retracted her comments in the fifteen years since she regurgitated her foul apologia for Jihad slaughter of innocent people here.
Asserting that her previous statements are THE reason for her action last week IS a conspiracy theory.
Manual Paleologos says
If the school is supported by public funds, it IS a free speech zone. The Enemies of the US are trying to suppress difference in thought. They must be resisted. With violence if necessary. We must take back our country.
BW022 says
Yes, colleges can have rules for posting materials. The main purposes of such rules are typically to prevent massive amounts of advertising around campus and/or to ensure that you know who is putting them up so that you can ensure they aren’t damaging property, failing to take them down after the event, that they aren’t too large, etc. It keeps someone from brining a crane and putting up a 100′ high banner, putting 1000 paper postings over all the buildings which turn into soggy wet messes, etc.
However… it isn’t up to the professor to enforce such regulations. I seriously doubt she is rooming the halls looking for posters without stamps. She just found those ones ‘offensive’ and took it upon herself to remove them. You simply say… “Hey… you need to get a stamp in order to place signs up around campus. You can get one over there.” If she wants to report the signs… poor taste, but sure.
Finally, needing stamps (while one can see the legitimate purpose) of course has the problem that you know that the administration is going to use this as a censorship tool. They’ll apply standards besides just “You must take them down. You must include a contact number. They can’t be larger than X.” They’ll apply all sorts of community, offensive, truth, etc. standards which will always be filtered through their sensibilities.
billybob says
I entirely agree. There is nothing here, and I think it is somewhat self defeating to create an issue where none exists, when there are so many real issues elsewhere. Every institution I have ever seen, from the local supermarket to the telephone poles on my street, enforces some policy on where you can post hand bills and where you cannot, and most have a policy of requiring approval of what can be posted. Without such a policy every building would be covered with posters about every cause and commercial interest under the sun.
gravenimage says
Do you think it is immaterial that this professor believed that the US *deserved* 9/11? I find it concerning, myself.
Georg says
@ gravenimage
Thanks for the information above about her support for the Black Radical Congress’ statement.
Apparently she didn’t listen to the guy who perpetrated the whole thing saying it was in response to the US presence in Saudi Arabia; which OBL said, pararphrasing, offended his Islamic sensibilities as we can’t have kuffar residing where Muhammed’s imaginary friend came down and told him to unhitch the space pony.
gravenimage says
Thank you, Georg.
CogitoErgoSum says
I’m with you, PRCS. While I support free speech, I will not allow someone to stick posters on my house or signs in my yard without asking permission first. I would also not allow someone to set up a soap-box in my yard and start shouting through a bull-horn at 4 o’clock in the morning. There are certain rules that have to be established and followed in order to keep one person’s right to free speech from infringing on another person’s right to peace and quiet or the right to protect his property. I can’t walk into the public library and start making speeches while other people are there trying to read and study.
These students should have found out first what the rules are for posting signs on campus. If they had obtained the proper permission and the professor still took the signs down, then there would have been a problem concerning freedom of speech. That’s how I see it.
PRCS says
BB and CES,
Simpatico, here, with a caveat:
”the school administration had cancelled the planned memorial service, prompting the YAF members to defy the prohibition by waking up before dawn to plant the flags and hang posters”
The YAF folks may actually have known what the rules/procedures were.
And, IMO, this probably should have been handled by the campus police.
Keys says
Yes, I agree with those making the point about colleges regulating postings.
They ought to do so, but I wonder what the prof would have done if they were black lives matter posters or some LGBTetc posters or some Islamic Student Assoc. Rules and laws need to be consistently enforced, and they are not.
I wish the YAF students would have asked for the posters back that she confiscated, so they could have put them up in the proper area. She probably had no right to “keep” them, if they had asked.
In any case, bravo for these young patriots !
PRCS says
Good questions.
SoCalMike says
Saddleback College isn’t your house.
It’s a tax payer supported school.
CogitoErgoSum says
The public library isn’t my house either but I don’t think it should be a place where just anybody can walk in and start making a speech disturbing the other patrons who want to read or study. Your freedom of speech should take into consideration my freedom to have some peace and quiet. I am a taxpayer also. That’s where a set of rules comes into play.
duh swami says
She had no right to confiscate the posters and destroy them… They belonged to the students….She should have asked them to remove the posters, explaining why, and if they refuse, then take them down, and return them to the right6gul owners…
Westman says
You can be sure that in elementary school she volunteered as a hall monitor. It wasn’t her job to take down the posters but it was a definite sign of her views about her nation.
Jay Boo says
Judith,
You are one — whacked out psycho
I would be more than content to throw a saddle onto the back of this Saddleback College Professor and ride her around the room with my spurs jabbing gently into her bare assed rump with a hoop and holler of giddy-up, but what you suggest is sick & demented.
Red Bee says
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Crusades Were Right! says
“The entire United States is NOT a free speech zone–just come to my house and I will make that clear to you.”
Actually, it is. If I took you up on your invitation, and went to your house, I would be perfectly entitled to speak my mind about anything I wanted to speak about while there. And if you didn’t like what I had to say, you would be entirely within your rights to require me to leave – at which point I would leave. But if you told me not to speak about this or that while there, I would be entirely within my rights to ignore you.
As for the students in the article, they were, in a manner of speaking, in THEIR “house”, as well as the prof’s!
Jay Boo says
These clowns are shameless.
It is not just a fringe element at universities either.
University (higher-Ed) is saturated with these beasts.
The Leftist agenda extends to the NFL too.
The NFL is turning into a Hollywood (Freak Show) of the Left.
Patriotic Americans will — turn off the Super Bowl.
Enablers will SUBMIT to the NFL millionaire athletes and suck their beer to cowardly accept their “New Normal” in willing submission.
F— the NFL
F— the Super Bowl.
http://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2016/09/08/pathetic-seahawks-may-protest-national-anthem-as-a-team-on-911-anniversary/
Jay Boo says
Isn’t it always all about the MUSLIM?
Islam (Uber Alles) lesson at — this university.
http://lariatnews.com/news/saddleback-college-gets-a-lesson-on-islam/
billybob says
Thanks for that post Jay Boo. It is sad to imagine that these kind of “lessons” on Islam go on all over the nation. Here is what they spoke about…
“Today is just a gathering to teach or explain what is Islam and the legacies of Muslims that were left and women’s roles,” said Yassine.”
We can easily guess what bs they were told, otherwise, they wouldn’t be so proud of the event. It will have been total falsehoods and lies. Instead, they should have shown a series of David Wood videos and had a discussion centred around them. That would have been valuable.
Their objective?
“We want crosstalk amongst the religions so we can have a multicultural community. All three of the monotheistic religions are based on the same thing; Islam is just a reboot, just a continuation of the old ones. It’s not a new religion,” said Yassine.”
That phrase is so very wrong. It is a total lie! Imagine Islam being a “reboot” of Christianity or Judaism, just a continuation of these. Rather, it is a perversion of these great religions! It is written “The Devil can quote the scriptures for his own purpose” and that is exactly what happened here when Islam came along and plagiarized and distorted pieces of these other religions and incorporated them in Muhammad’s made up religion.
PRCS says
It was a short article, with no comments listed.
I have to wonder (but think I know the answer) if anyone actually directed relevant questions at the speaker and others cited?
John Marst says
“Margot Lovett, a gender studies and humanities professor” — Or how to drift through life from one contrived grievance to the next, while producing nothing of significance or value. And do it with purple hair.
Georg says
Mhm. Don’t forget the part about all her appetitive needs being met by a system she claims to want destroyed. I’d be curious to know how much of the profits resulting in the salary of this communist are keept for herself versus distributed to her comrades. Methinks it’d all point to one who is terminally confused. Which makes her a perfect candidate to be in a position of teaching…
JMB says
Perhaps Ms Lovett has a secret fantasy, to be a Muslim wife caring for 10 children in a mud floor hut with no running water. If stupid women like this keep attacking our way of life that fantasy will soon be a reality.
Manual Paleologos says
Why was that so-caller professor not pounded into a bloody pulp by American students? We must take our campi back, and we will have to break heads and shank some kidneys to do so.
gravenimage says
I am *no* fan of this vile professors–see my other comments here.
But if you believe that free speech is served by students *shanking* their professors, you are pretty far off base, as well.
Manual Paleologos says
We have to take back America. If they are willing to use violence, we must use counter violence. Let them fear us.
gravenimage says
Manuel–with all respect–I hate this professor, and don’t believe that any school in the country should hire her.
But while she has–*disgustingly*–*condoned* violence, she has not been violent herself.
A society where students are knifing their professors looks more like heavily Islamized areas than it does our taking back America.
“UK: Muslims slash teacher’s face and fracture his skull: ‘He’s mocking Islam and he’s putting doubts in people’s minds’”
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2011/05/uk-muslims-slash-teachers-face-and-fracture-his-skull-hes-mocking-islam-and-hes-putting-doubts-in-pe
“UK: 14-year-old Muslim told teacher, ‘You are on my beheading list’”
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2015/10/uk-14-year-old-muslim-told-teacher-you-are-on-my-beheading-list
There have been other stories like these.
What sort of America ever existed where kids were regularly trying to murder their teachers? Not one I ever remember, or would wish to return to if it ever had existed.
Alvin Woods says
Why are we not reading ” far left agitator posing as a professor was today found running through the street *tarred and feathered* whilst being chased by an angry mob throwing tomatoes at her. Police made no arrests of the crowds but have arrested the “professor” for public indecency and anything else they can come up with”.
Georg says
I have similar ruminations about how it is similar things haven’t happened to Anjem Choudary.
PRCS says
Now that he’s going to prison, maybe something like that….
JMB says
Because, sadly 95% of university students absolutely lap up this tripe. They don’t even start to grow up until they try and buy a house and if the get a government job in education they never grow up.
Mirren10 says
I can’t even begin to imagine what was going through the soup that passes for that creature’s brain. How *dare* she! The students should have grabbed *their* posters back, stuck them back up, and faced that bitch down.
Mr Flagio says
Nowadays, the campus is actually a “dumb zone”. You can google information about the US eductaion system and how it is dumbing down everybody.
Wellington says
When I read she was a Gender Studies prof right there it said it all. Virtually all “Studies” programs are bogus and agenda driven, which no academic discipline should be. Gender Studies, Gay Studies, Women Studies, African-American Studies, African Studies, Latin American Studies, et al. are wrapped up in victim-oriented thinking and are the antithesis of what any true major should be. They’re Leftthink rot and serve as partial evidence of what has happened to higher education in the West, i.e., it has become lower education.
Jay Boo says
Class assignment —
Students are to stand in front of mirror repeating the phrase;
“All about me”.
Mirren10 says
Spot on, Wellington.
Westman says
Imagine the great employment that one can get with “Gender Studies” on the resume. I can just hear the mind of Human Resources: “Oh geez, not another one! A likely suing employee. Cross this one off..”
gravenimage says
All true, Wellington.
Norger says
It sounds like the campus rules about whether posters are allowed on buildings (or not) were anything but clear. What is clear is that this professor was offended by the message, and she was determined to act as self-appointed censor.
There are certain points of view that are considered not acceptable to be worthy of discussion on today’s college campuses. For example, any suggestion that the 9/11 highjackers were motivated by Islamic ideology is considered way beyond the pale.
College faculties have become bastions of leftist fascism. In a word, disgusting.
Georg says
I think what happened is that she was presented with glaringly indefensible actions of a group she is committed to defending, and so had to QUICKLY remove the pieces from the chessboard of argumentation.
Walter Sieruk says
First, shame on that left wing collage professor for her terrible actions . In Islamic countries she would be a second class citizen because she a female. So is very absurd that she would feel so fondly towards Islamic countries. How totally illogical she is. What a fool she must be. Second,don’t let them fool you, the many apologists for Islam is will endeavor to set up a smokescreen to hide the reality of the truth about the violence and deadly essence of Islam by making the bogus claim that the al Qaeda operatives mass murderer on 9/11 were not real Muslims and that they were breaking the laws of the Qu ‘ran by their violence and deadly actions.” The apologists for Islam will further make the totally false claim that “Those terrorists on 9/11 were only criminals who hijacked the peaceful religion of Islam for Politics.” Those outrageously false claims are weak attempt of damage control for the image of Islam to the West. For the “holy book” of Islam the Qu ‘ran. For the Qu ‘ran instruct in Sura 9:111. Muslims who are engaging the jihad that “The believer’s fight in Allah’s Cause, they slay and are slain ,they kill and are killed “ That’s just what happened on September 11, 2001 the jihadists of al Qaeda “killed and were killed” in those 9/11 jihad attacks against both humankind and America. The Quran also teaches in Sura 9:123 to that jihad –minded Muslims behavior towards non-Muslims “let them find harshness in you…” Those Islamic attacks on 9/11 were indeed very “harsh.” As Sura 2:191 instructs “kill the disbeliever wherever you find them.” That’s a very strange kind of “peaceful religion” if there ever was one. Just to site one more out on many from the Qu ‘ran about the instruction of deadly violence is Sura 47:4. Which instructs “Whenever you encounter unbelievers strike off their heads until you make a great slaughter among them …” Let’s face it, using jet planes a missiles as those jihadist/ Muslims did of September 11, sure made a greater “slaughter among them” then sword can. Wake up West to the actual nature of Islam before it’s too late.
Allan says
“U.S. Imperialism” is an excuse still popular among libertarians, too. Like the leftists, they won’t test their silly prejudice with obvious questions. For example, if hostility to “U.S. Imperialism” was the leading or exclusive motive, then why were all 19 hijackers Muslims? Couldn’t they find any leftist radicals who shared their alleged aversion? Are no leftist radicals willing to die to stop “U.S. Imperialism”?
Leftists have no aversion to thievery, homicide, and mass destruction. So why weren’t a few trusted leftists invited to help with the planning of the attacks? Were the planners and hijackers not interested in contaminating their mission with common leftist motives?
Guest says
Of course it’s illegal!!! The right to free speech shall not be impeded!!!
PRCS says
Come to my house and start screaming obscenities or threats at members of my family and we’ll discuss your assertion.
Guest says
If you don’t like what I’m saying or that I am voicing my opinion, then be an adult and leave. I’m not forcing you to listen to me and its up to the individual to believe me. It doesn’t matter if it’s the truth, an opinion, or an insult. It doesn’t justify violence. Don’t confuse voicing your opinion with harassment.
PRCS says
It should be obvious, even to you, that your assertion was childish nonsense.
The right to free speech is limited by law.
Guest says
what is so childish about remembering those who died on 9/11?
“Free speech being limited by law?” I am only following the constitution. You’re the one making me out to be the criminal, simply because I believe people should be allowed to voice their opinions. Once again I ask what is so childish about that?
PRCS says
“The right to free speech shall not be impeded!!!
That, to be precise.
Free speech IS limited by law.
Go test the law at a crowded theater.
As a military retiree, I will tell you that I had every right to voice my opinion–in public–but not in uniform.
Just one of the rules.
Guest says
The constitution is the law!
PRCS says
You simply don’t know what you’re talking about.
You CAN yell “Fire” in a crowded theater. But there are consequences if doing so causes property damage or personal injury/death.
I could go to a political demonstration while on active duty, in uniform, but I would face consequences.
Grow up and stop posting childish nonsense.
Lynne says
I am a Canadian but the tragedy of 9/11 affected me very deeply. On that day everything changed. Don’t Americans feel the same way? I think crumpling the posters showed her true feelings. They weren’t advertising a garage sale but a very memorable day in history.
Georg says
Absolutely. Only a real sicko would needlessly crumple a poster having to do with 9/11.
gravenimage says
I feel as you do, Lynn.
Here’s my memorial painting:
Always Remember
Never Submit
http://s478.photobucket.com/user/gravenimageartist/media/AlwaysRemember.jpg.html
Georg says
Never thought I’d share this in a million years, but it’s pretty emotional coming up on 15.
https://postimg.org/image/d5efhqvg9/
gravenimage says
I can’t believe it’s been 15 years since 9/11. I remember being riveted to cable news, desperately hoping it was a situation like the “Miracle on the Hudson” with a plane having lost control.
When the second plane hit I knew it was not just some terrible accident.
When the first tower fell I literally could not breath–I knew I had just witnessed the death of hundreds of people.
I immediately suspected it was Islamic terrorism. I was “politically correct” enough to feel rather guilty about my suspicion. No more.
Georg says
It is hard to imagine it’s been 15 years. It was a traumatizing day of enormous confusion. I didn’t see any of the planes hit live, nor did I see the towers fall until later in the day. It was all so jolting. It was hard to do any work in the evenings for over a week. I remember a guy I had grown up with staring at a tv saying he was going to enlist.
I later met a guy who was in a carpenter’s union who was close by on the day and initially went to try and help without realizing the magnitude of it all. He now has substantial psychiatric problems relating to the events of the day and is for all practical purposes impaired from living a normal life.
Another man who went there regularly in the immediate aftermath to try and help however he could has substantial health problems relating to the toxins which were in the air. Among other things, he has serious vertigo and has to take time off of work during bad spells and likely will have to retire early. His condition may even lead to an early death.
Your feelings of being “politcally correct” are things I experienced to some degree as well. The aftermath was a period of reckoning for many, and probably always will be.
Thanks for sharing your experience.
gravenimage says
Thanks for sharing as well, Georg.
ed cox says
She will more than likely get a raise and a position with more power .
duh swami says
The ‘free speech zone’ exists wherever I happen to be…Allah has tried to shut me up several times, but he is a bad shot and always misses…
Guest says
So true
linnte says
Those posters were expensive and well made. I hope these students don’t let this rest and go after her for replacing the posters and getting a public apology.
OT: California Governor Brown just signed a bill allowing illegal aliens the right to vote 🙁
lagitane says
I wonder what this “gender studies” professor would say about the abysmal treatment of women and gays under Islam. What might she say about the latest contact sport by Muslims of gay hurling or the stoning of women? Not much parity there. No, wait. She would blame it on U.S. imperialism (although we would be better off not meddling in all of this crap holes) forcing Muslim males to lose their minds. She would never say that about the KKK, however.
Georg says
I can tell you what Rachel Maddow said: “Muslims don’t have a lock on bigotry.”
John Marst says
She would say nothing — much too busy working on a paper entitled, “Sexist air-conditioning, and the heating and cooling patriarchy of the U.S.”
gravenimage says
California: Far-Left prof rips down 9/11 memorial posters at Saddleback College
……………………..
Well, that’s *just repulsive*. Even most apologists for Islam at least acknowledge that the horrific attacks of 9/11 were a bad thing.
Not the vile Margot Lovett, apparently. How does she think her “gender studies” department would fare under Shari’ah law?
David WS says
The professor obviously harbors a grudge against any 911 rememberance. Put up a Trans poster, and tape her walking by it.
PRCS says
Now, that’s a good idea.
Karen says
Notice that the professor who removed the posters damaged them unnecessarily.
If there are times when some rules would make sense on campus, then how about applying them evenly. But no, it’s always conservative and other targeted groups that are held to the strictest letter of the law. Leftist groups are allowed to act out in the most despicable and violent manner, always sheltered by the radical faculty and administrators who are eager to protect *their* speech and delicate emotional states.
My first reaction to the video was ‘well, the students should have followed the rules’. Shows you how easily we get conditioned to the left’s little rules/obstructions. In reality, a college campus should be plastered with *all* kinds of radical, conservative, thoughtful, stupid, uncomfortable, impolite and confrontational speech. It should be the freest of all free speech “zones”.
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Georg says
“Leftist groups are allowed to act out in the most despicable and violent manner, always sheltered by the radical faculty and administrators who are eager to protect *their* speech and delicate emotional states.”
Great point.
somehistory says
If a car is left illegally parked, it may be removed, but the law does not allow it to be deliberately damaged.
If a LL removes property from an apartment due to non-payment of rent, he is not allowed to damage it or even dispose of it (for a period of time).
She may have had a legal standing in removing the posters, but they did not belong to her. She tore them illegally. For this, she should be charged with destruction of private property. A charge for each poster she ruined.
And the way she walked while ripping them down, and then arrogantly across the lot…looked a lot like the moslims in burkas look.
Gender studies….now that’s an important *course*….much like watching paint peel from old buildings.
Pam Minnick says
I would love to know how she knew they never asked if they could hang the posters up. I don’t understand how any real American could even think about pulling them down, and treating them like common garbage.
PRCS says
Per the video, they had not been stamped by the Student Government office.
Champ says
Lady you are such a useful idiot! ..and she was caught on tape siding with the enemy: islam & company. Congratulations FOOL.
gravenimage says
She’s worse than a fool, Champ–she has blamed the US for 9/11. She’s an actual enemy, and she’s teaching our children.
Champ says
You’re right, Graven, she is worse than a fool–*much* worse!!
gravenimage says
Just horrible–and the worst thing is that there are many others just like her.
PRCS says
Champ, c’mon.
Caught on tape siding with the enemy: islam & company?
I don’t want to be mean, but she was taking down posters that weren’t supposed to be there.
Whether her action was appropriate is in question.
Champ says
PRCS,
From the headline it states this about her:
“The students told Campus Reform that the perpetrator was Margot Lovett, a gender studies and humanities professor who has a history of controversial actions on campus. Notably, OC Weekly reported in 2001 that she had promulgated a statement by the Black Radical Congress to her colleagues blaming ‘U.S. Imperialism” for the 9/11 attacks.'”
So, with this in mind, I stand by my comment that …”she was caught on tape siding with the enemy: islam & company.”
She was making a statement, and not *just* …”taking down posters that weren’t supposed to be there.”
PRCS says
To connect that with this event is pure speculation.
http://www.thecollegefix.com/post/28952/
Champ says
“pure speculation”?
Preposterous …
Margot Lovett blames “U.S. Imperialism for the 9/11 attacks”, and she’s giving islam & company a pass on 9/11–so she’s siding with the enemy.
PRCS, you’re purposefully ignoring the facts. You may choose to ignore them, but I won’t. Nor should anyone else.
Georg says
“To connect that with this event is pure speculation.”
If you had to hazard a guess as to why she crumpled them, what would it be?
linnte says
Yes! From the video, the professor could have easily given those posters back to the students and asked them to remove the rest, until the posters had been ok’d to be put up. This woman righteously RIPPED these down carelessly and with deliberate disgust. If her reason was simply to remove them until approval she would not have been so disrespectful of what the posters represented or disrespectful of the students who put them up. Her voice tone and body language said it all.
PRCS says
I’m not going to hazard such a guess, as doing so would be as speculative as trying to attribute the reason she took those flyers down this past week with something she did 15 years ago.
I don’t do palm reading, either.
As I see it, the relevant facts, in this case, are:
”the school administration had cancelled the planned memorial service, prompting the YAF members to defy the prohibition by waking up before dawn to plant the flags and hang posters”
“On Friday, after the article was published, Saddleback College officials released a statement on the matter:
Saddleback College supports student clubs and their right to organize and exercise their freedom of speech. At the beginning of each academic year, in order to organize meetings and hold events, student clubs must go through an activation process that includes an orientation, the establishment of a club constitution and by-laws, and the appointment of a faculty adviser.
Young Americans for Freedom contacted the college’s student development office before fall semester classes began to state their intention to plan an event commemorating 9/11. The director made clear that the students would have to complete the club activation process before the event could be approved. As of today the students have not completed the requirements to form a club.
On September 8th, the students posted stickers and flyers on several campus buildings, which is a violation of South Orange County Community College District policy. The students also did this without first seeking approval from college administration. However, flyers that were posted by the students in the free speech areas on campus have not been removed by college personnel.
The director of student life has reached out to the students and invited them to meet and discuss the steps that can be taken to work collaboratively with the college in the future and in accordance with college and district policies and procedures.”
She took the posters down.
Various statements and assertions in the three articles I read about this issue are at odds with what the video shows, college policies, or both.
http://www.thecollegefix.com/post/28952/
http://www.campusreform.org/?ID=8113
http://www.yaf.org/news/video-professor-tears-down-911-memorial-posters/
Of note, flyers and other items posted in the free speech area were not taken down by school officials.
Norger says
@ PRCS
Just saw your last response, God you are stubborn(and repetitive). If everyone were to follow your logic, no person could ever be convicted of first degree murder, save in those rare instances where the perpetrator confesses, because the jury can never KNOW that the defendant acted with the subjective intent to kill. Talk about “beyond idiocy.” We can never KNOW exactly what was going through this woman’s mind (you idiot!) I was going to quote you and say that I will let your uninformed opinion of me pass, but I won’t. I will instead observe that you reserve only unto yourself the right to form an opinion even though you don’t KNOW all the facts. THAT’S “beyond idiocy.”
gravenimage says
Gee, PRCS, it sure is a good thing that the college canceled the 9/11 memorial and that a civic-minded professor didn’t let those scofflaws get away with expressing concern with the victims of that atrocity. That sure showed ’em!
Norger says
@PRCS
Is it her job, in her capacity as a professor of “Gender Studies” to police “South Orange County Community College District policy” as to where posters can and cannot be hung? I seriously doubt it.
Would she have reacted as she did (or at all) if, for example, she was walking past posters extolling the virtues of transgender bathrooms?
This woman is a fascist.
PRCS says
“Is it her job, in her capacity as a professor of “Gender Studies” to police “South Orange County Community College District policy” as to where posters can and cannot be hung? I seriously doubt it.”
But, per your post, you don’t KNOW the answer.
Nor do I.
And that’s the point.
Mirren10 says
The point should be to look at *all* the evidence, plus commonsense *likelihood*.
We already know this creature is a ‘Gender Studies (whatever nonsense that might be) Professor. So she’s clearly a leftard moron. We also know some of her students accuse her of marking essays according to whether or not they mirror *her* opinions. So she obviously doesn’t believe in freedom of expression or opinion., or speech.
We also know she said at the time that America deserved 9/11 because of it’s foreign policy. In other words, this evil bitch thought almost 3,000 of her fellow citizens deserved to be murdered in the most horrifically painful ways. Do you really think she has changed her opinion ?
I agree with others who have said tearing down posters put up against college regulations forms no part of a ‘Professor’s’ purview. It is, however, part of the ‘purview’ of snotty, arrogant little leftard polizei.
Finally, she didn’t just take the posters down, she *crumpled* them, and as far as we know didn’t return the student’s property to them.
Add all that together, and it is obvious to me that bitch took down the posters because she didn’t like the message, or agree with it.
I fail to see why you are so anxious to defend her.
Norger says
@PRCS
When will I present facts? Oh please.
There’s this thing called reasonable inference from known facts. I can reasonably infer from the fact this woman is a professor of “gender studies” that her views are skewed leftwards. If there’s any doubt about that,another poster pointed to the FACT that she promulgated a statement attributing 9/11 to “US imperialism.” I can therefore infer that this woman was not pleased with the content of these posters, and that’s why she took them down.
We also have student reviews of her treatment of students, to the effect that her grades reflect whether the student’s opinions agree with hers.
Yes, it is my opinion that she is a fascist and that her actions were content-based suppression of speech that she didn’t like. Contrary the implications of your response, I said it was my opinion, formed after my review of the facts, including the video of this professor, As I said, I seriously doubt this professor’s job duties include policing of posters posted on exterior building walls(a reasonable inference based on my knowledge of what college professors do) and that that she didn’t like the content of these posters (another reasonable inference based on her endorsement of the view that “US imperialism” caused 9/11.
That’s my opinion. If you have any contrary facts that you wish to bring to my attention, I will consider them. Otherwise I’m perplexed as to why you would defend this woman.
Norger says
@PCRS
I don’t have to “know” with 100% certainty whether this woman’s professorial job duties involved policing the placement of posters on the outside walls of campus buildings to form an opinion of her and what she did. Let’s say I’m 90% sure this is completely outside her job function. I am 100% certain that had she simply kept walking, the school would not have been the least bit critical of her failure to rip the posters off the wall. You seem to think you have a monopoly on the facts; prove me wrong.
This was her attempt to suppress speech with which she personally disagreed. She is a narrow minded fascist. Her conduct was completely inappropriate. I harbor no illusions about her being disciplined in any way this, but this is symptomatic of the complete lack of tolerance for opposing views from the hard left on our college faculties.
Mirren10 says
Spot on, Norger.
” … but this is symptomatic of the complete lack of tolerance for opposing views from the hard left on our college faculties.’
Even more horrifically, taking posters down which commemorate the **murder** of almost 3,000 of her supposedly fellow citizens shows exactly where this bitch’s mindset is. Faugh.
Georg says
The prof also stopped crumpling them once she was closer to the students and realized she was being flimed. Before this, she had crumpled 100% of them. The odds of this being due to chance are very low. I realize you were in charge of taking down posters during your early college years PRCS, you may want to read about the Stanford Prison Experiment.
PRCS says
You asked me, “Is it her job, in her capacity as a professor of “Gender Studies” to police “South Orange County Community College District policy” as to where posters can and cannot be hung?”
I responded that neither you nor I know.
“You seem to think you have a monopoly on the facts; prove me wrong.”
No, I don’t have a monopoly on the facts, but have provided what I believe them to be.
September 11, 2016 at 9:31 am
You, on the other hand, have presented nothing but opinion and theoretical foolishness.
“I am 100% certain that had she simply kept walking, the school would not have been the least bit critical of her failure to rip the posters off the wall.”
Just your opinion.
“This was her attempt to suppress speech with which she personally disagreed.”
Just your opinion.
“She is a narrow minded fascist.”
Just your opinion.
” Her conduct was completely inappropriate.”
Just your opinion.
So, when will you present some facts?
PRCS says
“The prof also stopped crumpling them once she was closer to the students and realized she was being flimed.”
Nonsense!
Video @ 33
You may want to stick to the facts.
gravenimage says
PRCS wrote, quoting Norger:
“She is a narrow minded fascist.”
Just your opinion.
…………………………..
Margot Lovett referred to the United States as ‘callous’ and ‘evil’, and justified the savage 9/11 Jihad terror attacks on innocent civilians as a result.
I do believe that all decent people would, indeed, consider characterizing this as “fascist” to be quite accurate.
Georg says
“Nonsense!
Video @ 33”
lol… well obviously we disagree. I guess she “was simply following orders” as they say.
Mirren10 says
PRCS, I don’t understand why you are so intent on defending this piece of shit.
Are you related ?
How can you possibly continue to defend her. There is something seriously wrong with your mindset, when you continue to ignore the evidence about this wanker, and continue to assert she was just ‘following college regulations’, or whatever rationale your purveying
Read, again, what we know about this bitch, what actually happened, and conflate them. Think, use your brain, .
PRCS says
M10,
I’m not defending her, as I don’t have all the facts, and therefore don’t know WHY she personally did what she did on Sept 8th, this year.
And despite your assertion that “we know what actually happened”, I submit that you don’t either.
http://www.thecollegefix.com/post/28952/
http://www.campusreform.org/?ID=8113
http://www.yaf.org/news/video-professor-tears-down-911-memorial-posters/
There are a lot of people posting their opinions here as though they are facts.
And some of them have resorted to demeaning her physical appearance, her clothing, and other terms and phrases–many profanity laced, which are both totally irrelevant to the issue and which expose their own intolerance.
I will allow your uninformed opinion of my mindset to pass.
PRCS says
Fascism:
noun
1.
(sometimes initial capital letter) a governmental system led by a dictator having complete power, forcibly suppressing opposition and criticism, regimenting all industry, commerce, etc., and emphasizing an aggressive nationalism and often racism.
2.
(sometimes initial capital letter) the philosophy, principles, or methods of fascism.
3.
(initial capital letter) a political movement that employs the principles and methods of fascism, especially the one established by Mussolini in Italy 1922–43.
Norger says
Not sure exactly what your point is (she’s not a fascist, those who disagree with you are)?
My point is that this woman is not going to come out and say: “I’m intolerant of these students’ views, and I disagree with these students’ views, so I’m taking these posters down.” Among other things, she doubtless does not see herself this way.
But the idea that she doesn’t still adhere to the repulsive views she endorsed after 9/11 just strains credulity (Graven’s words). And I find it difficult to believe that her removal of these posters (remember 9/11) was not a reflection of her personal views. It’s not as though repression of opposing views by college faculties on US campuses isn’t widespread and ongoing.
You want to give her the benefit of the doubt, good for you. You are far more charitable than I. As far as I’m concerned she revealed herself for what she is many years ago:
PRCS says
Norger says
September 11, 2016 at 6:00 pm
I’m not giving her the benefit of anything except to be judged upon the facts, not people’s opinions and epithets like “fascist”–and worse.
The notion that removing those posters, flyers, etc., –this past week–was driven by actions/statents of 15 years ago–unless there are FACTS to back it up– goes well beyond idiotic
What you find difficult to believe is entirely irrelevant–as not all facts are yet known.
http://www.thecollegefix.com/post/28952/
http://www.campusreform.org/?ID=8113
http://www.yaf.org/news/video-professor-tears-down-911-memorial-posters/
You don’t KNOW why she did that, and I don’t either.
tgusa says
This college is within a community and they have seen fit to hire a threat to that surrounding community. The people who live work and raise their families in that community do not deserve to have a 9-11 terrorist sympathizer earning a living off of them within their midst. This employee is sympathetic to the perpetrators of the mass murder of nearly 3000 people who were just going about their daily lives. She is just one decision away from going over to the dark side as an accomplice and or perpetrator. Put up picture posters of her all around town. Wanted: Out of our community! islamist terrorist mass murdering sympathizer! The people of that community have some rights too. They also have greater obligations to themselves their families and their friends and neighbors,
KentuckyPrould says
I didn’t see a comment with the persons name or a picture.
And yes an Ass whipping would have been promptly applied !
Kepha says
I see that Margot Lovett is a gender studies prof. I sometimes wonder who is worse for America: the gender studies gang or the Salafists. The Salafists are a disease of the skin; but the genderists and their allies are a disease of the vital organs.
Zammana says
There are plenty of “unauthorized” posters on every campus I’ve been on. Does she rip those down as well? – I’d wager not.
Georg says
An important question.
Norger says
Depends on whether she agrees with the message or not.
Rick Lee says
Why doesn’t someone sue these schools that let the left wing profs run rampant? You have paid money to get an education, not to be harassed or attacked because of your race, political views, or religion. Maybe fight back for a change? Expensive lawsuits tend to get someone’s attention high up the command chain.
isabella van der westhuizen says
I don’t understand you are not allowed to commemorate 911 in the United States
Next you wont be able to celebrate the 4 July in the United States
What next
1stAmendmentRick says
There are two words that succinctly explain the root causes of this kind of this left wing zealot:
FASCIST – TENURE
Eliminate this neo-fascist movement of the liberal left, who determine what people are to think and if you disagree they attack and destroy, and eliminate tenure for every professor who should have to demonstrate annually their competence and unbiased view in their academic discipline that we as parents pay through the nose for in ever increasing college costs and graduates who can’t name the first president of the U.S. but can tell you how Kanye and Kim are doing in bed.
Tony says
I just looked up Dr.Lovett in “Ratemyprofessor”. Most student reviews are positive. This does not surprise me because anyone who takes a gender studies class probably shares the same mindset. There are a few dissenting negative reviews, probably from students who had her for something other than gender studies (after all, she is a “history” teacher). Nearly all of them complain that she uses the class to push her agenda. Here is one of them:
“Margot is a nice person, but when it comes to having the students “discuss” a topic, it’s the equivalent of verbal worksheets. She attempts to make you come up with thoughtful responses, but you’ll quickly find that she already knows the answer and ends up treating you like a child. Essays are graded by the proximity of your answer to her opinions.”
Norger says
“Essays are graded by the proximity of your answer to her opinions.”
Posters are graded the same way.
Mirren10 says
” Essays are graded by the proximity of your answer to her opinions.”
If that is the case she has absolutely *no* business being a professor. That is disgraceful. Those students who feel she is doing this should get together and complain to her superiors. This bitch needs to be challenged.
I wasn’t a professor, but I taught A Level History. Any pupil of mine who was able to substantiate their opinion with evidence received a good mark from me, whether their opinion chimed with mine, or not. How *dare* she call herself a teacher.
gravenimage says
Essays are graded by the proximity of your answer to her opinions.
………………….
God knows this is all too common in academia today.
And we already know her foul opinions on 9/11.
Guest says
“It’s the United States fault that 9/11 happened?” I dare her to say that to one of the victims family.
Western Canadian says
Whenever some ignorant hard left lout (LOT of redundancy there!) mouths off about the Wests imperialism in the middle east, muslim lands etc… Ask them if they know WHY Europe and the West got into the middle east, in the first place….. Had to do with invasions of parts of Europe, slave raids as far North and Ireland, military attacks on shipping, etc. islam has been at war with EVERYONE AND EVERYTHING, since it worked its way out of its gutter of birth.
gravenimage says
All *very* true, Western Canadian. This also led to the period when we had historically been safest from the depredations of Islam–from about two hundred years ago to about fifty years ago, when “political correctness” and denial began to take serious hold, and the invasion of the West by Muslims began to ramp up in earnest.
Nabi says
Leftards have more in common with Islamists than they realize–number one is they both have a lot of crazy pundits who tend to go hysterical at the slightest disagreement with their mad dogma.
Jeff says
Gender studies Professor? It figures.
She is not a administrator; she was not authorized to take down these posters. The school administration may have been authorized; but not her. And she damaged the posters, too.