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Despite mall shooter’s “SubhanAllah” post and admiration for ISIS caliph, police search for motive

Sep 26, 2016 10:44 am By Robert Spencer

He had a history of violence and sexual abuse of women — almost as if he grew up in a culture that revered violence and thought of non-Muslim women as “uncovered meat.” He posted admiration for al-Baghdadi and Khamenei and a call for Muslims to repeat “SubhanAllah” multiple times.

Maybe he wasn’t a jihadi and there is some mitigating explanation for all of this. When authorities refuse to discuss it and appear to dismiss it out of hand, however, it only reinforces the impression that there is some deliberate effort to cover up jihad attacks — an impression that authorities reinforce all too often.

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“A portrait of violence emerges of suspect in Washington state mall killings,” by Rick Anderson, Los Angeles Times, September 25, 2016 (thanks to Darcy):

A disturbing portrait began to emerge Sunday of Arcan Cetin, the man suspected of killing five people at a Washington state mall, but authorities appeared no closer to determining the motive for the crime.

Cetin, 20, who came to the United States from Turkey as a child, was described by authorities as having called out women’s names as he allegedly killed them in a hail of bullets Friday night at the Cascade Mall in Burlington.

By the time he was found carrying a computer bag near his home in nearby Oak Harbor about 24 hours later, he was depicted by the sheriff who arrested him as “zombie-like” and docile….

As Lt. Chris Cammock of the police department in Mount Vernon, south of Burlington, said Saturday, he and a task force investigating the shooting have a lot of questions to answer.

“I don’t know what his motivations were to do this. I don’t know what his motivations were to continue [shooting]. I don’t know what his motivations were to stop,” Cammock said….

Investigators have not revealed what, if anything, Cetin — who pronounces his first name as “ar-zhan” — has told them since his arrest. But his capture and jailing were greeted with both relief and anger.

Uhlaine Finnigan, 19, a former classmate at Oak Harbor High School, remembered Cetin as someone to avoid in the school hallways. She didn’t want to comment further Sunday but gave permission to use her recollections from a Facebook post after his arrest.

“He’d grab and slap my friends and … even caressed my friends chest, along with other women,” she wrote. “Has been known to be violent towards girls too.”

Another classmate, Austin Hendrix, 19, told the Seattle Times, “He would grope women in high school and middle school.”…

According to his Facebook page, Cetin is a native of Turkey, not Russia, and goes by the nickname “the Turk.” He came to the U.S. with his parents and is a legal permanent resident, officials said.

The Associated Press quoted a neighbor, Amber Cathey, 21, describing Cetin as “really creepy, rude and obnoxious” — so much so, she said, that she complained to apartment management and kept a stun gun handy. Cathey said she blocked him on Snapchat after he sent her a photo of his crotch.

His Tumblr page, with “arcanmotherrussiavodkaandak47” as part of the Web address, includes a photo of him with an apparent assault-style weapon. He also posted, without comment, a photo of serial killer Ted Bundy at age 4, sitting next to a snowman.

Court records show Cetin has faced three domestic violence assault charges in Skagit and Island counties, involving disputes with his stepfather. There is no record of any convictions. In December, however, a judge ordered Cetin not to possess firearms. The judge also suggested imposing a no-contact order, but the stepfather objected, saying Cetin was going through “a hard time” and needed the stepfather’s help.

One post on Cetin’s Tumblr page urged readers to repeat the phrase “Subhan Allah” (“Glory to God”) 10 times “and then reblog this, do not stop reblogging it.”

Police had no comment on the suspect’s religious beliefs.

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  1. Michael Copeland says

    Sep 26, 2016 at 10:54 am

    A “portrait of violence”?
    “The heart of islam is violence” – Ayatollah Yazdi

    • eagle says

      Sep 26, 2016 at 11:34 am

      I totally agree.. And the dam-dist thing, Obama’s agenda is to scrub any and all reference of a Muslim connection whenever possible. The News media goes right along with this. It is no wonder Obama wants to give away the internet keys to a foreign enterprise.The free internet is not in Obama’s best interest. Did you know telling the truth about the Muslims is called Islamophobia? Infidels are full of Islamophobia.

  2. Michael Copeland says

    Sep 26, 2016 at 11:00 am

    That judge;s order for Cetin not to possess firearms worked out really well.
    Hillary Clinton party please note.

  3. Jay Boo says

    Sep 26, 2016 at 11:37 am

    DELAY tactic … ……. until the story fades.

    Then they :
    1 Question the motives of those asking for truth.
    2 Say — Its a ‘New Normal’ time.
    3 Haven’t we talked about this enough?

    4 “What possible difference does it make?”

    • Rufolino says

      Sep 27, 2016 at 3:11 am

      Exactly, Jay Boo ! Thank you !

  4. Jack Diamond says

    Sep 26, 2016 at 12:14 pm

    Isn’t it interesting the LA Times, which does mention Ted Bundy and (astoundingly) the “SubhanAllah”, does not see fit to mention the photo of and admiration for the Islamic State Caliph, also on his tumblr page. Or that, coincidentally, the Caliphate has ordered Muslims in America to commit just such attacks on infidel Americans? Now why hide that from the public L.A. Times (Rick Anderson)?

  5. steve brown says

    Sep 26, 2016 at 12:17 pm

    Every US citizen must watch Frank Gaffney’s 10 part series about theMuslim Brotherhood’s infiltration of America …

  6. Mong says

    Sep 26, 2016 at 12:22 pm

    Motive, motive, where are you? I’m so saucy with dripping liberalism that I can’t find a motive. There must be a motive around here. Oh we love our Muslims and they can do no wrong. They just breath purity and goodness like an apple fresh from my mothers way x. The reality is of course that we’re dealing with a viscous, fascist belief system of the most brutal and barbaric order, which actually has doctrines of deception! So peaceful right? X

  7. August West says

    Sep 26, 2016 at 12:47 pm

    Looks like a nice rifle. I can’t quite make it out, but it looks like an AR 15 pattern rifle.

    He appears to be pointing the weapon in an unsafe direction and his trigger finger appears to be on the trigger. That is 50% of the basic rules of firearms safety blown with one picture.

    Firearms safety does not seem to be a priority for the average Jihadi.

    “In December, however, a judge ordered Cetin not to possess firearms.”
    I guess he did not much care what the judge said about his possessing firearms.

    I wonder how he managed to purchase that weapon, surely the FBI background check would have found this judges ruling and stopped the purchase.

    • Jack Diamond says

      Sep 26, 2016 at 1:05 pm

      It sounds like his step father was a gun collector, likely where his rifle came from. Buying one black market is also not unheard of.

      • August West says

        Sep 26, 2016 at 2:04 pm

        Yes… my note was intended be sarcastic.

  8. Angemon says

    Sep 26, 2016 at 1:42 pm

    Police had no comment on the suspect’s religious beliefs.

    No one wants to lose their job or be sent to a “re-education” camp?

    • JawsV says

      Sep 26, 2016 at 2:37 pm

      The Keystone Kops are too dumb to comment about Islam.

  9. JawsV says

    Sep 26, 2016 at 2:36 pm

    “Maybe he wasn’t a jihadi”

    He most certainly is. He shouted “Glory to Allah” and mass-murdered Infidels. That does it for me.

  10. Mark A says

    Sep 26, 2016 at 2:50 pm

    Law enforcement’s continual failure to state the obvious only results in disdain for law enforcement.

  11. Mirren10 says

    Sep 26, 2016 at 4:26 pm

    ”He had a history of violence and sexual abuse of women — almost as if he grew up in a culture that revered violence and thought of non-Muslim women as “uncovered meat.” He posted admiration for al-Baghdadi and Khamenei and a call for Muslims to repeat “SubhanAllah” multiple times.

    Maybe he wasn’t a jihadi and there is some mitigating explanation for all of this.”

    Love your sense of humour, Robert !

  12. Ashley says

    Sep 26, 2016 at 5:24 pm

    Motive? To commit an act of jihad. He targeted women at the cosmetics counter at Macy’s for a reason…

    • dumbledoresarmy says

      Sep 26, 2016 at 6:03 pm

      And he did it on a *Friday*.

      Not on a Saturday, Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday or Thursday.

      A *Friday”. Around 7 pm in the evening. Friday, the Mohammedan ‘holy’ day.

      Might be worth finding out whether he’d been to mosque that day. Has *any* of the reports on this creep addressed the possibility that he attended a mosque? Did his family attend a mosque?

      Of course, his family might be ‘secular’ Turks – MINOs, but not declared apostates.

      So long as Islam is still in the picture, this kind of thing – violently-murderous attacks on surrounding Infidels – is always on the cards, no matter how ‘secularised’ a Muslim, or a Muslim family, may seem to be.

      The only silver lining in this case is that he does not have American citizenship. He has residency – legal permanent residency – but not *citizenship*.

      Of course, having murdered five people, he should be ending up in jail for the rest of his life; but he should *not* be allowed contact with Infidel prisoners, so as to obviate Prison Dawa.

      Final thought: the reality is that if the Cetin family of Muslim Turks – parents and child (and any other children?) had not been allowed to enter and settle in America, five people would be alive who now are dead.

      • Eric Jones says

        Sep 27, 2016 at 2:49 am

        I see a continuing pattern. Muslim family comes to the USA. Parents appear to assimilate nicley. Second geration does not assmilate at all. Matten, Rahami,amd now Cetin. It appears that Muslims should not be let into the USA at all.

        Eric

  13. Jaques B. says

    Sep 26, 2016 at 5:25 pm

    He did grow up in a culture that revered violence! Are you so detached and blase not to see it? Sorry, but the US has no culture at all compared to Europe only a culture of violence. The US likes to police the world. When there’s trouble, the military is the “solution”. There are awful people here in this comment section that even call for nuking whole states, not caring about innocent civilian lives at all. Then, look at all the violent movies Hollywood creates, look at the violence that is filmed from TV helicopters over L.A. and broadcast live to people’s homes. Look a horrific police brutality going also against school children. Looking at history, the US has had only 10 years of peace in which it was not at war with anyone. I could go on forever, just let me say the record is abysmal. And that’s the reason why the US is hates all over the world, like in Germany, where the people want the military to leave the country.
    So what we have here is a violent and incredibly stupid nation allowing violent citizens or immigrants access to guns. And then people wonder why this happens.

    • gravenimage says

      Sep 27, 2016 at 9:16 pm

      Jaques B. wrote:

      He did grow up in a culture that revered violence! Are you so detached and blase not to see it? Sorry, but the US has no culture at all compared to Europe only a culture of violence.
      ……………………………………

      Good grief. This article is about *Muslim* violence, not “American violence”.

      And France, with a much larger Muslim population, is even more at risk than we are.

      Was the attack on Paris due to “American violence”? How about the massacre in Nice? Was Muhammad Merah an American? What rot.

      More:

      The US likes to police the world. When there’s trouble, the military is the “solution”.
      ……………………………………

      So sorry we saved you from Fascism in WWII. What thoughtless “American violence”…sarc/off

      More:

      There are awful people here in this comment section that even call for nuking whole states, not caring about innocent civilian lives at all. Then, look at all the violent movies Hollywood creates…
      ……………………………………

      Last I checked, it was not Hollywood movies that are beheading priests in France. Again, that would be Muslims.

      More:

      And that’s the reason why the US is hates (sic) all over the world…
      ……………………………………

      Why does ISIS refer to the “filthy French”? Might it be because you are Infidels, just like us Americans?

      More:

      So what we have here is a violent and incredibly stupid nation allowing violent citizens or immigrants access to guns. And then people wonder why this happens.
      ……………………………………

      How did the Jihadists at the Bataclan gain access to guns? It certainly wasn’t because of American gun laws…

  14. Eric says

    Sep 27, 2016 at 3:08 am

    Good heavens, whatever could his motive have been? Wow. What a load of PC crap. I hope he gets a case of high velocity lead poisoning soon. Vermin.

  15. Carolyne says

    Sep 27, 2016 at 10:59 am

    Twice the US has saved France from the “Peaceful” Germans. I see that Monsieur Jacques does not know his own history. If it were not for the US military, he would likely not be alive to complain about the US military.

  16. harbidoll says

    Sep 27, 2016 at 11:30 am

    if some girl or boy had “shown him the light” or “educated” him about touching girls while they were in high school, all this might not have happened.Bet a black girl would have set him straight lol

  17. Guest says

    Sep 27, 2016 at 6:53 pm

    It literally hurts to see how stupid people can be.

  18. gravenimage says

    Sep 27, 2016 at 9:04 pm

    Despite mall shooter’s “SubhanAllah” post and admiration for ISIS caliph, police search for motive
    ……………………

    Yes, it’s a mystery…sarc/off

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