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Muslims enraged that 9/11 monument in small New York town calls perpetrators “Islamic terrorists”

Sep 3, 2016 11:55 am By Robert Spencer

“The Islamic Organization of the Southern Tier worries the wording could encourage hatred toward Muslims living in the area, painting all Muslims with the same brush.”

This is an oft-used and tired talking point. How does identifying the motivating ideology of the 9/11 attackers paint all Muslims with the same brush? Does referring to the Italian mafia amount to calling all Italians mafiosi? Does referring to German Nazis mean that one is calling all Germans National Socialists?

This is just an attempt to deflect attention away from the ideology of the 9/11 hijackers, and to keep people ignorant and complacent regarding the fact that those hijackers were working from Islamic principles that are embedded within the Islamic texts that are read and studied and taught by the Islamic Organization of the Southern Tier.

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“Group in southern New York town takes issue with writing on 9/11 memorial monument,” WWMT, September 1, 2016 (thanks to Blazing Cat Fur):

OWEGO, N.Y. (NEWSCHANNEL 3) – A 9/11 memorial monument is causing controversy in a small town in southern New York state.

A group has taken issue with the writing, which calls the perpetrators Islamic terrorists.

The Islamic Organization of the Southern Tier worries the wording could encourage hatred toward Muslims living in the area, painting all Muslims with the same brush….

The Islamic group has asked that the monument just read, “terrorists” or even “Al-Qaeda terrorists.”

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  1. Kay says

    Sep 3, 2016 at 12:03 pm

    Satan, the father of lies.
    Speaking a lie doesn’t make it true
    nor does hiding the truth make it false.

    It can be downright confusing though when words no longer mean what they always have.

    • Frank Scarn says

      Sep 3, 2016 at 2:14 pm

      Every totalitarian/tyrant hates the truth, explaining why there must be a Ministry of Truth with variable “facts.”

      • Bamaguje says

        Sep 3, 2016 at 7:45 pm

        JIHADISTS is the most appropriate description of the 9/11 terrorists.

        • old white guy says

          Sep 4, 2016 at 7:59 am

          Islamic jihadists. they were not southern Baptists. islam, islam, islam, it is islam.

        • Carolyne says

          Sep 4, 2016 at 4:35 pm

          MUSLIMS is the most appropriate description of the 9/11 terrorists

        • Debbie says

          Sep 5, 2016 at 5:29 am

          That gives them honor & respect in Islam.

    • Frank Scarn says

      Sep 3, 2016 at 2:24 pm

      They’re called by other Muslims “The Magnificent 19,”

      http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/650/3415/1600/2003-9-09-THE%20MAGNIFICENT%2019.0.jpg

      With this quote, “. . . they were youth who believed in their Lord and We increased them in guidance. (Al-Kahf 18:13)”

      [Quran, Sura 18:13]

    • Tom says

      Sep 4, 2016 at 7:59 am

      This is the new plan. Cry outrage and social injustice at every turn. Black criminals in our country are doing the same thing. Commit a crime and cry racism when caught, especially if shot in the act.

      These are very transparent attempts to those of us capable of rational thought.

      • Roy C says

        Sep 4, 2016 at 6:24 pm

        True enough – what amazes me is how many in the west especially leftists but more than a few conservatives too seem to have totally forgotten the widespread joy and celebrations throughout the Islamic world on 9-11-01. Most of it was censored in the supposed land of the free to prevent any backlash against American Muslims. I recall being nauseated watching Palestinians dancing in the streets that evening. America is so timid today we fear even using the correct term to describe those 19 Jihadist killers.

    • Debbie says

      Sep 5, 2016 at 5:30 am

      Muslims want us to lie.

  2. Berengaria says

    Sep 3, 2016 at 12:09 pm

    Those Horrible Museums, that were supposed to memoralize the Innocent Victims, strayed, & became Conversion Material for Islam. Now, not only the Pictures of Terrorists, but their sordid History, is displayed in the main areas of these Muslim (Museums). The Small Remains of Victims is generally in the basement.
    Sad to see, that 9/11 Victims & Heroes are shoved out of sight & disrespected in NYC & elsewhere, while Muhammad basks in his Victory.

    • jayell says

      Sep 3, 2016 at 2:54 pm

      Is this true? If so, it”s not just a shockingly immoral corruption of a public gesture of common decency, it’s plain sick.

  3. PRCS says

    Sep 3, 2016 at 12:09 pm

    IMO, call them violent jihadists–or just jihadists.

    And, just to stick a figurative finger in CAIR’s collective eye, include the phrase–That was their jihad. What’s yours?

    • gravenimage says

      Sep 3, 2016 at 2:08 pm

      PRCS, my “Jihad” is defending against Jihad.

      • Champ says

        Sep 4, 2016 at 4:43 pm

        Good one, Graven! …mine, too!

        • gravenimage says

          Sep 4, 2016 at 9:21 pm

          🙂

  4. Jay Boo says

    Sep 3, 2016 at 12:12 pm

    “Obama claimed “it is time for the world — especially Muslim communities — to explicitly, forcefully, and consistently reject the ideology of al Qaeda and ISIL.” Especially Muslim communities.”

    (Muslims are FURIOUS to discover):
    Even Obama has put some limits on Muslim butt kissing.
    http://theislamicmonthly.com/no-obama-i-wont-condemn-isil/

    • justfeddup says

      Sep 5, 2016 at 3:10 pm

      ISIL codeword for “NO ISREAL”. Obama’s Muslim religion says it’s Praiseworthy to LIE to unbelievers and we are all unbelievers unless we are Muslim.

  5. elisheva says

    Sep 3, 2016 at 12:14 pm

    The religion of deception prefers lies to truth to cover-up their beliefs and actions.

  6. Dexter L. Wilson says

    Sep 3, 2016 at 12:15 pm

    You know, it wouldn’t be so bad if the Koran didn’t say kill the unbeliever and the people of the Book, we wouldn’t be reminding the people of America what these Muslim really represent. Mr. Obama has brought in 680,000 Muslims into the US in the last 5 years and under 100 Christians in the same time period. The Christians suffer genocide around the world in Muslim Countries and he, this Muslim President should not have had that much power to bring these people in and bring in the Christians who are not allowed to worship freely. Is there any country on Earth where Christians prevent anyone from worshiping God? No and we continue to let this Muslim supporting president pull the wool over our eyes. He should have been impeached 6 years ago,

    • J-A palmaer says

      Sep 3, 2016 at 3:40 pm

      Yeah, this is queer… Seems like “demagogy” to me – I have wondered why also UN keeps silent about atrocities among so many people, mainly Christians in Egypt, and elsewhere in Africa, because of “imposing-sharia-terrorism-movements”… And UN was “defending” a couple attacks in Canada (was it?) about two or three Muslims there – but completely “unaware of”, that is “Prefere to stay Silent about” situations around the world among Christians – who are daily being under “heavy taxes” for not being “Muslims”, or harassed because they pray or have a Bible…or as in Yemen – the Muslims decide what kind of clothes they are supposed to wear – and old system of segregation. Where Muslims are, there is also sharia – and where sharia is, there will be harassment and atrocities.

      • JMB says

        Sep 3, 2016 at 4:32 pm

        To the above two comments; I could not agree more. What is the leader of the free world doing about it? Absolutely nothing. What is the UN doing about it? Again, absolutely nothing. Will Trump really ban Muslims coming into the USA? I hope so.

        • Carolyne says

          Sep 4, 2016 at 4:40 pm

          The United Nations is not to be counted on to take any reasonable actions because it is controlled by Muslims. Likewise the US which has a Muslim president.

      • gravenimage says

        Sep 3, 2016 at 8:31 pm

        The UN is now dominated by Muslim countries and other unfree third-world sh*t-holes. Don’t expect any outrage over Muslim savagery from them–they are too busy sanctioning civilized Israel, instead.

        • Mark Swan says

          Sep 4, 2016 at 12:14 am

          The U.S. should leave the UN now.

          http://www.conservativeusa.net/UN100ways.htm

        • gravenimage says

          Sep 4, 2016 at 12:32 am

          Agreed, Mark. Send an eviction notice to the UN at Turtle Bay.

        • Mark Swan says

          Sep 4, 2016 at 12:38 am

          The U.N. is no friend to the U.S. it is a threat.

          http://www.conservativeusa.net/UN100ways.htm

    • Praeceptor Maximus says

      Sep 4, 2016 at 6:55 am

      I totally agree with you, Dexter. But you know what is disturbing? The fact that Obama’s popularity is high. And look at the support that Hillary (the whore of Saudi Arabia) has! I have no idea what is going on in the mind of their supporters, but I firmly believe that if Hillary wins, then an armed uprising against her is necessary. Hillary is not an option.

  7. Buraq says

    Sep 3, 2016 at 12:17 pm

    How about: 19 clowns driven by the most barbaric ideology to appear on planet Earth carried out this crime.

    Could anyone really complain? That would be a give away!

    • Xero_G says

      Sep 3, 2016 at 2:36 pm

      Granted, clowns are mostly creepy, but they aren’t calculated, cold-blooded,mass-murdering sociopaths. (or are they?)

    • gravenimage says

      Sep 4, 2016 at 9:22 pm

      Buraq–good to see you posing again!

  8. Jaladhi says

    Sep 3, 2016 at 12:23 pm

    Hmm,, they were not Islamic – they were from Mars! Yeah right!! Muslims will prefer that to telling the truth about any historical event. Muslims constantly rewrite history to absolve them of any responsibility for murder and terror and this what is happening even in a small town USA. You see Muslims everywhere are in the same mold. They hate telling the truth about Islam and themselves.

    I don’t know words have been used on the memorial on 9/11 ste in NYC.

    • gravenimage says

      Sep 3, 2016 at 2:31 pm

      Jaladhi wrote:

      I don’t know words have been used on the memorial on 9/11 ste in NYC.
      ………………………

      Good question, Jaladhi. When I visited the site of the WTC in 2003, the memorial was not up yet.

      I checked out the website–bad sign, there is *nothing* on the home page telling you what 9/11 was about. I had to dig around–finally, under “Teach + Learn”, there is a “FAQ about 9/11”, under that, there is (finally!) “What happened on 9/11?”.

      It says, “‘9/11’ is shorthand for four coordinated terrorist attacks carried out by al-Qaeda, an Islamist extremist group, that occurred on the morning of September 11, 2001. The attacks killed 2,977 people.

      On the morning of September 11, 2001, 19 terrorists from al-Qaeda, hijacked
      four commercial airplanes…”

      http://www.911memorial.org/

      Well, at least is says “Islamist extremist group”–I suppose it could have been worse, and have just mentioned al-Qaeda with no indication of what they were.

      But even this information is buried.

      Also–as I had recalled–turns out the reference was somewhat more robust at one point; it actually mentioned “Islamic terrorism”, but that was scrubbed:

      “Muslims enraged over al-Qaeda video at 9/11 Museum; Museum removes mention of “Islamic terrorism” from its website”

      https://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/04/muslims-enraged-over-al-qaeda-video-at-911-museum-museum-removes-mention-of-islamic-terrorism-from-its-website

      In other words, Muslims want to have the memorial in Owego whitewashed, just as they were successful in doing in NYC. *Ugh*.

      • Jaladhi says

        Sep 3, 2016 at 2:46 pm

        Thanks for the good research, graven! I remember there was a controversy of sorts when the memorial was about to be inaugurated. Muslims always whitewash their atrocious history with the help of spineless infidels calling themselves as experts. We have allowed them to come into the country and now we can’t even tell the true story about this historic event. Muslims of the future will dub it a great victory for Islam and Muslims.

        Western experts are the biggest problem for us – most of them are Islamic apologists whose main job is to defend Islam. They are the ones who have coined the word “Islamists” so that they can separate from Muslims. But it doesn’t matter since all Muslims are Islamists. Case closed!!

        • gravenimage says

          Sep 3, 2016 at 8:39 pm

          Thanks, Jaladhi. And yes–even “moderate” Muslims regularly demand the whitewash of their violent creed. Disgusting dhimmitude that so many cave in to these demands. I hope Owego stands firm!

        • Carolyne says

          Sep 4, 2016 at 4:42 pm

          I love to see “Enraged” Muslims. Why should we care if we enrage them? They certainly don’t care.

    • Peter Charles says

      Sep 3, 2016 at 2:38 pm

      Yes, they blame the Crusades on Christians when the Crusades were a response to muslim warring on every place from France around the Med. Sea to Greece. Had they not attacked, killed , raped , taken slaves , tortured and mutilated their way around , there would have been no need for the Crusades.

      • Jaladhi says

        Sep 3, 2016 at 2:50 pm

        Right you are and even the Christian Western leaders do not forcefully bring out this point in response to this Muslim gobbledygook. If Muslims had not invaded other lands Islam would have shriveled and died in time in Arabia!!

  9. Mirren10 says

    Sep 3, 2016 at 12:27 pm

    ”The Islamic group has asked that the monument just read, “terrorists” … ”

    Well, that seems fair. I mean, there’s all those insane Methodists and Baptists and Amish et al blowing people up everywhere. Especially anyone who rejects Christianity. And all those Hindus, and the Buddhists, and the Jews, and the Wiccans are doing awful things to anybody who rejects Hinduism, Buddhism, Judaism, and Wicca, and they deal pretty smartly with any of the wrong sects, as well … Come on, lets see some impartiality here !

    • Sog says

      Sep 3, 2016 at 3:10 pm

      How about replacing “Islamist terrorists” with Religion of Peace” terrorists.

      • Donovan Nuera says

        Sep 3, 2016 at 5:42 pm

        Yes!

  10. Peter says

    Sep 3, 2016 at 12:43 pm

    Semantics, really, as they were JIHADISTS, and therefore inherently MUSLIM or of the ISLAMIC faith.

  11. CogitoErgoSum says

    Sep 3, 2016 at 12:54 pm

    Muslims are such liars. Don’t they know that today everyone can read the Quran? I know in the past they have tried to keep the Quran forbidden reading for non-Muslims but that does not work today. It is readily available all over the internet, along with the Hadiths and other information about the life and character of Muhammad.

    The 9-11-2001 attackers were being the best Muslims they could possibly be in trying to carry out the wishes of Allah. They died doing the work of Allah. They were not lazy, hypocritical cowards. Muhammad would have been proud of them. Anyone who is interested enough to learn about Islam and what is behind all the terror attacks knows this. We know Muslims would not like for everyone to know this because it would mean all out war to stop them. They would prefer to take the easier and safer route of deception ….. because most of the ARE lazy, liars and hypocrites. If they are ashamed of this (and they should be) they need to find another religion.

    • Mirren10 says

      Sep 3, 2016 at 1:05 pm

      ”Muslims are such liars. Don’t they know that today everyone can read the Quran? I know in the past they have tried to keep the Quran forbidden reading for non-Muslims but that does not work today. It is readily available all over the internet, along with the Hadiths and other information about the life and character of Muhammad”

      True. Now they’re driven into last-ditch maunderings about ‘out of context’, ‘mistranslations’, and of course, the hoary old chestnut, ‘you have to read it in the original Arabic’. What will they do when these pathetic apologias have finally lost any effect they ever might have had ? 🙂

  12. duh swami says

    Sep 3, 2016 at 1:02 pm

    painting all Muslims with the same brush.”

    Allah has already done that…but he didn’t use paint…The color of rage is jihad red…Seeing red is a blessing from Allah…the pious never leave home without it…

    • Jaladhi says

      Sep 3, 2016 at 2:33 pm

      Err.. “the color of rage is jihad green…” Muslims are enraged when they see ‘green’ The true s rage color!! Maybe the town should have simply written “Muslim” terrorists to be very, very,very clear about it!! Islamic=Muslims!!

      • Mark Swan says

        Sep 3, 2016 at 11:01 pm

        Well, it would be a fact, wouldn’t it Jaladhi.

  13. Guest says

    Sep 3, 2016 at 1:09 pm

    They don’t have the right to complain about anything involving 9/11!

    • gravenimage says

      Sep 3, 2016 at 2:32 pm

      *Very* true.

      • Mark Swan says

        Sep 3, 2016 at 11:02 pm

        Absolutely no right.

    • Jaladhi says

      Sep 3, 2016 at 2:35 pm

      Yes of course, they think they have the right since they were the victims in their mind!!

      • Kay says

        Sep 3, 2016 at 3:32 pm

        “Revisionism is the highest stage in the development of Marxism-Leninism.” –One line from a fabulous novel by Julian Barnes, The Noise of Time.

        I have often wondered how anyone could be a holocaust denier. But now we see this denial of atrocities happening in real time (not even the past) with the insistence on “protecting” Mohammedens.

  14. Rocco Lore says

    Sep 3, 2016 at 1:12 pm

    When I saw the headline, I was thinking CAIR

  15. Raja says

    Sep 3, 2016 at 1:40 pm

    Oh these Muslims would be offended about anything contrary to Koran!.They are the real apologist of Islam and haters of God, venomous against anything Western / not Islamic. They won’t mind taking this “war” from local area to WWIII and ironically, they still want to be called “peaceful” ! Who are they bullying? Are they expecting everyone to surrender to Islam like pope and his coteries?

  16. Walter Sieruk says

    Sep 3, 2016 at 1:41 pm

    First , what those Muslims are have become so engaged about is only the truth. For those murderous fiendish Al Qaeda operatives on September 11,2001 were in fact Islamic terrorists. Another good way to described those insidious jihadists who are stooges of the Islamic militant jihad would be also accurate to call them Muslim terrorists. For that is just what they were. To have it ingrained in stone the those Muslim terrorists “Islamic terrorists” is fitting proper appropriate , truthful and right. Those Muslim terrorists of Al Qaeda were not ,for example, were not Buddhist terrorists or Hindu terrorists . Those villains of 9/11 were in reality Islamic terrorists. Second there can be no doubt that Osama bin Laden was grinning on that day of September 11, 2001 when he received news of that murderous affront on humankind and America, being such an evil and vile character that he was. Bin Laden when he found out that his demonic scheme worked all he could do was sit around a grin. That Islamic fiend Bin Laden that no sympathy or empathy all for all the people who died the awful way in America. For he was actually glad about that murderous jihad calamity that occurred that day of 9/11. To such a callousness of that character as Bin Laden the Bible teaches “He who is glad calamity will not go unpunished.” Proverbs 17:5. For that’s just what happened. For as they say “What goes around comes around.” So when his deadly violence came back on him in his compound on the outskirts of Abbottabad he was no longer grinning. For on the day the heroic Navy SEAL’s exterminated him, the report was that he looked confused and scared. Likewise the Bible teaches “For whatever a man sows, that he will also reap” Galatians 6;7. Bin Laden sowed violence and death so therefore he reaped violence and death. The very words of Jesus thus are proven be to be true. For Jesus taught the “He who takes up the sword shall perish by the sword.” Matthew 26:52. For Bin laden took up the firearm and he died by the firearm Osama bin Laden is now suffering in the fire of hell. May the name of Osama bin Laden rot in history. As the Bible teaches “The name of the wicked shall rot.” Proverbs 10:7. Also, the heroes of United 93 banded together to fight the Jihadists and foiled their evil scheme by preventing more death and destruction in Washington D.C. The heroes united in a band or cord against those Islamic evildoers. The above is a reflection of Ecclesiastes 4: 12. This reads “Though one may be over-powered, two can defend themselves. A cord of three strands is not quickly broken..”
    Finally, all these jihadists will have a harsh awakening after they die; they will find out that they were lied to about the 72 virgins in a paradise. That is just one of many “cleverly invented stories” of men Second Peter 1:16. Instead of the virgins they will find themselves in hell with no hope. Third , after section two in which the Divine Viewpoint was given , now from the human viewpoint it shoe be known that with the coming of the fifteenth anniversary of that murderous jihad affront against humankind and vicious attack against United States which occurred on September 11, 2001. It’s therefore a good time to remember that for the United States to continue as a great power in the world in spite of the current threats of the Islamic terrorism by jihadist /Muslim terrorists who are operatives of ISIS, Al Qaeda and other jihadists of other similar jihad terror entities. Americans then should have Vigilance, Conviction and, of course, Fortitude. As one of the signers of the Declaration of Independence had declared “Let the eye of vigilance never be closed.” and “A conviction that we are right accomplishes half the difficulty of correcting wrong.” Likewise, Mr. Jefferson had also stated “Fortitude…teaches us to meet and surmount difficulties; not to fly from them.”

  17. Martin says

    Sep 3, 2016 at 2:05 pm

    People are starting to wise up. YouTube is awash with videos that show the truth behind Islam. And many of the comments under online news items about Islam (and Muslims) demonstrate that people haven’t been fooled.

    Wording on such monuments is usually put together by a committee. I think they knew what they were doing and the message they wanted to give out.

    :

    —– Begin Quote —–

    The Islamic Organization of the Southern Tier worries the wording could encourage hatred toward Muslims living in the area, painting all Muslims with the same brush.

    The town supervisor doesn’t see it that way.

    “I don’t live in a politically correct world,” said Donald Castellucci, the Owego town supervisor. “I live in a historical fact world and cross terrorism, whether it’s American, homegrown, Christianity, Islamic – you call it what it is. And we don’t whitewash things, especially here. And we just think that we’ve done the accurate citing of what happened.”

    —– End Quote —–

    • Martin says

      Sep 3, 2016 at 2:06 pm

      Link to news item I post above missing. It’s http://raycomgroup.worldnow.com/story/32945250/911-monument-stirs-controversy-in-town-in-ny

  18. gravenimage says

    Sep 3, 2016 at 2:06 pm

    Muslims enraged that 9/11 monument in small New York town calls perpetrators “Islamic terrorists”
    ……………………..

    Actually, this is typical dhimimitude under Shari’ah, where the victims of Muslim violence are not only not allowed to fight back–they are not even supposed to complain.

  19. pdxnag says

    Sep 3, 2016 at 2:18 pm

    I choose my Venn Diagram sets differently. A human who chooses apostasy form Islam is not a Muslim and thus cannot be painted as a Muslim Terrorist. Muslims who do not freely choose apostasy pledge fidelity to Islam, and all its horrible commands to wage war.

    Ask them to declare their apostasy from Islam. Demand it.

    • mortimer says

      Sep 3, 2016 at 2:32 pm

      pdxnag is correct. Silence means consent in the law.

      Latin: qui tacet consentire videtur, “he who is silent is seen to agree”, thus, “silence implies/means consent”.

      Muslims who remain in Islam are seen to agree with Mohammed’s terrorism. Mohammed committed a terrorist act every 6 weeks.

  20. mortimer says

    Sep 3, 2016 at 2:27 pm

    K.8.60 “Turhibunna” (terrorize them) = Islamic terrorism.

  21. Champ says

    Sep 3, 2016 at 2:42 pm

    Muslims enraged that 9/11 monument in small New York town calls perpetrators “Islamic terrorists”

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    “Islamic terrorists”? They were! Would “followers of muhammad-the-terrorist” have them po’d too? Hey that’s the truth, too!

    mohammedans are all about obfuscation, smoke ‘n mirrors, or outright lies. In fact they gravitate toward bold-faced lies since lying is allah & quran approved–imagine that!

  22. Ashley says

    Sep 3, 2016 at 3:15 pm

    Every Tom, Dick and Harry possessing a single brain cell knows that the 9/11fuckers were Islamic terrorists.

    The very fact that a Muslim community is taking issue with the wording on the monument only makes Muslims appear foolish.

    Why do Muslims keep bitching about trivial shit? How do they find the time to pray 20 times/day, attend mosque, read the Koran, abuse women and children, plot their next attack AND bitch about the wording on a monument?

    These folks have too much time on their hands…

    • Oliver says

      Sep 3, 2016 at 5:40 pm

      ashley- they (Muslims) find the time to do all that you mention BECAUSE THEY DO NOT WORK.

      They collect welfare.

      • Ray M says

        Sep 6, 2016 at 10:22 pm

        I agree 100%

  23. Sam says

    Sep 3, 2016 at 3:29 pm

    Islam is so hallow it has nothing good to show but hate and intolarance. Especially intololarance to any mention of Islamic truth by infidels.

    Shame that we are tolerating this cult anywhere in the world.

    We really dont need to tolerate Islam and its cult members. Period.

    Islam is garbage that is all.

    • Champ says

      Sep 3, 2016 at 3:57 pm

      We really dont need to tolerate Islam and its cult members. Period.

      Islam is garbage that is all.

      ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

      Indeed, Sam! …islam is *wholly* evil!

  24. Wellington says

    Sep 3, 2016 at 3:55 pm

    Muslims enraged? Aren’t they regularly? In fact, doesn’t being Muslim mean you will be enraged unless EVERYTHING you desire and demand you get?

    Islam: The ready-made religion for adults who refuse to grow up. Fitting, since Islam’s founder never grew up.

    • Mirren10 says

      Sep 3, 2016 at 4:02 pm

      Indeed, Wellington.

      I have frequently thought that adherents of islam are exactly like screaming two year olds, denied a biscuit. The horrendous misfortune is, that our ‘leaders’ are like those two year old’s parents, idiotic ‘progressives’, who think their squalling brats must have every thing they demand, lest their ‘development’ be stunted. Faugh.

      • Wellington says

        Sep 3, 2016 at 5:39 pm

        Hi, Mirren. Hope you and yours are keeping your sanity in this insane world we live in.

        Yes, the equivalent of two-year old Saracens, plus the equivalent of two-year old Western elites, doesn’t, to put it mildly, add up to a positive.

        Registered otherwise, the Mays and Merkels of the world are at least as equally problematic as all those bloody Mohammedans out there. It’s a double whammy to be sure. I wish it weren’t and I wish as well the West right now was led by Churchills and Lincolns——–but it isn’t——-and wishin’ ain’t gettin’.

        Instead, it’s led by Mays and Obamas, Merkels and Trudeaus.. Wow, talk about descent, no?

  25. Havoc says

    Sep 3, 2016 at 4:09 pm

    “Muslims enraged” ? I don’t care. Let them fume in some weedpatch in the Middle East. They have no business here.
    .
    No Muslims. No Mosques.

  26. Ren says

    Sep 3, 2016 at 4:09 pm

    What do muslims want to call “islamic terrorists”? Nice jihadis?

  27. jbt1844 says

    Sep 3, 2016 at 4:16 pm

    Muslims could either condemn the Islamic terrorists that committed such a heinous crime, showing they are with the American people, or condemn the use of the term “Islamic terrorists” (indisputably true), showing they are with the terrorists, not the American people. More reason to back Trump.

  28. Angemon says

    Sep 3, 2016 at 4:23 pm

    The Islamic group has asked that the monument just read, “terrorists” or even “Al-Qaeda terrorists.”

    How about it just reads “muslims”?

    • Allan says

      Sep 3, 2016 at 4:53 pm

      Let’s compromise: nineteen Muslims

      There’s no need to say or to write “terrorists”. The context supplies that information.

  29. abad says

    Sep 3, 2016 at 5:01 pm

    If the Muslims in Owego, NY have a problem with that then I suggest they leave Owego for Aleppo, Syria, the Divine Seat of Muhammad’s Caliphate(TM pending).

    They are not welcome here.

  30. marina says

    Sep 3, 2016 at 5:24 pm

    “Islamic terrorists” ? But we have to call a spade a spade. Don’t we?

  31. DP111 says

    Sep 3, 2016 at 5:33 pm

    Instead of “nineteen Islamic terrorists”, how about “nineteen devout followers of Mohammad and the Koran”.

  32. Tjeerd says

    Sep 3, 2016 at 6:37 pm

    IS is islamic… nothing strange about that Why do these people always play the vicitim when they get criticized. There is no moderate islam, although there are moderate muslims

  33. Kat says

    Sep 3, 2016 at 7:04 pm

    It was islamic terrorists. Perhaps if the truth hurts they should do more to combat extremism among their ranks

  34. Jake says

    Sep 3, 2016 at 7:17 pm

    If they cared about their image, they shouldn’t have done it.

  35. TomF says

    Sep 3, 2016 at 7:21 pm

    The killers were ISLAMIC terrorists…..put that in stone.

  36. Mo says

    Sep 3, 2016 at 8:20 pm

    “Muslims enraged that 9/11 monument in small New York town calls perpetrators “Islamic terrorists””

    As the late, great Andrew Breitbart used to say…

    SO?

    • Jay Boo says

      Sep 3, 2016 at 11:34 pm

      We can never please these people.
      I guess we must surrender to political correctness yet again.

      Oh well. Let’s make it read:
      (Muslim) Terrorists
      That should bring out a Muslim smile or two.

  37. somehistory says

    Sep 3, 2016 at 11:10 pm

    On September 11, 2001, a bright sunny morning, 19 snakes slithered onto planes filled with innocent people who expected to have a pleasant trip home, to vacation, to a business meeting, or other destinations.

    The snakes carried sharp cutting instruments and lied with their demon controlled tongues in order to take over control of the planes and kill as many innocent people as possible.

    The snakes were following the commands of their evil serpent false god, satan the devil, and in their islamic tongues, shouted out just how great they believed their false god was.

    When the planes crashed, the buildings burned, people died by the thousands; and other snakes on the ground, cheered the deaths as sacrifices to their false god, satan who used islam to murder innocent people, leave children without father or mother, leave husbands without wives, wives without husbands, and parents without children.

    And the snakes that didn’t actually murder that day, have denied that their snake brothers were anywhere near the planes when they went into the buildings and into the ground.

    The people who exercised their God-given right to speak on the memorial, should just say to those whining and getting furious, “Get over it. What we have written, we have written.”

    • Jay Boo says

      Sep 3, 2016 at 11:36 pm

      The Serpent of Satan slithers and creeps upon the ground and beneath our feet.

  38. R Hemi says

    Sep 4, 2016 at 2:57 am

    THE ULTIMATE 100% UTUBE BREAKDOWN OF “MUHAMMAD-ISLAM-QURAN”

    • Steve Klein says

      Sep 4, 2016 at 10:11 am

      According to the tradition, after Muhammad’s death, the Quran was compiled by his companions who wrote down and memorized parts of it. I cannot see how this differs significantly from the Gospels. Both are based on “oral tradition.” Can oral tradition be trusted? Not as much as prophecy which is written at the time God gave it.

  39. Shmued B Dovid says

    Sep 4, 2016 at 5:42 am

    The wording is wrong. The correct wording is ‘muslims’ , not Islamic Terrorists and with a small ‘m’.

  40. Norger says

    Sep 4, 2016 at 8:03 am

    The 9/11 highjackers (and the leaders of their group) self-identified as devout Muslims. In his martyrdom letter Muhammed Atta cited the Koran something like 24 times.

    The attack on the towers and the Pentagon was widely celebrated throughout the Islamic world. Osama Bin Laden and the highjackers were and still are widely regarded as heroes throughout the Islamic world.

    The highjackers were Muslims who were acting in accordance with what their faith commands. No more no less.

  41. John Billings says

    Sep 4, 2016 at 9:07 am

    The free world is under siege. Islam is attacking us on every side, “with every stratagem of war”, as the unholy Qur’an puts it.

    Islam means “submission.” If this memorial stone were changed so as not to “paint all Muslims with the same brush”, it would only prove that, in fact, Muslims can be painted with the same brush, because they all demand submission to their offended sensibilities.

    Another thing: I am sick almost to the point of actual nausea at Muslims playing victim. Given that they caused the worst terrorist attack in world history to date (9/11/2001), of which the 15th anniversary will occur in seven days, Muslims should be standing in shame, not in pretended fear of “backlash”.

    There is no commensurate “backlash”. Yes, a very few Muslims have been killed by Americans in apparent vengeance against terrorism. Of course, these attacks are beneath us as a law-abiding nation. But where is the outrage in the media about the 49 innocents shot to death, and many more wounded at the Orlando Pulse nightclub, by Omar Mateen, who was connected with the Islamic State, and who shouted “Allahu Akbar!” as he committed the worst act of terrorism on American soil sine 9/11? All the media decry is the largely-concocted “anti-Muslim backlash”.

    You know what? If Clinton is elected, and floods the USA with criminal “refugees” as European leaders have in their nations, there really will be a backlash. There will be a raging backlash in defense of Liberty, and on the ashes of my father (may he be reborn with blessings) I promise to be part of it. JB

  42. John Billings says

    Sep 4, 2016 at 9:09 am

    The free world is under siege. Islam is attacking us on every side, “with every stratagem of war”, as the unholy Qur’an puts it.

    Islam means “submission.” If this memorial stone were changed so as not to “paint all Muslims with the same brush”, it would only prove that, in fact, Muslims can be painted with the same brush, because they all demand submission to their offended sensibilities.

    Another thing: I am sick almost to the point of actual nausea at Muslims playing victim. Given that they caused the worst terrorist attack in world history to date (9/11/2001), of which the 15th anniversary will occur in seven days, Muslims should be standing in shame, not in pretended fear of “backlash”.

    There is no commensurate “backlash”. Yes, a very few Muslims have been killed by Americans in apparent vengeance against terrorism. Of course, these attacks are beneath us as a law-abiding nation. But where is the outrage in the media about the 49 innocents shot to death, and many more wounded at the Orlando Pulse nightclub, by Omar Mateen, who was connected with the Islamic State, and who shouted “Allahu Akbar!” as he committed the worst act of terrorism on American soil since 9/11? All the media decry is the largely-concocted “anti-Muslim backlash”.

    You know what? If Clinton is elected, and floods the USA with criminal “refugees” as European leaders have in their nations, there really will be a backlash. There will be a raging backlash in defense of Liberty, and on the ashes of my father (may he be reborn with blessings) I promise to be part of it. JB

  43. traci94 says

    Sep 4, 2016 at 9:51 am

    I am so sick and tired of Muslim “outrage” and offense. I don’t really care if they are offended by the word Islamic on this memorial; it’s truth. They need to suck it up and realize that their faith is totally, inextricably connected to violence, period. They need to stop whining and do something. I’ve never seen anything like this in my life, where an ENTIRE group of people literally can not see their own faults and blame everyone else. I mean, I’ve seen this in individuals, but this seems to be an entire group (I know, there are some exceptions) who can not admit serious flaws in their belief system.

    • Mark Swan says

      Sep 4, 2016 at 2:56 pm

      Muslims think that they are superior to non-Muslims, destined to dominate non-Muslims, and that
      they must distance themselves socially and emotionally from non-Muslims. The many condemning verses in the Quran and the Hadiths against non-Muslims is the real propaganda that leaders use
      in order to prepare them mentally for fighting the enemy, non Muslims.

      Harming fellow humans is easier, if you hate and do not relate to others, as fellow humans.

      Muslims are raised to experience their lives as controlled, things occur, because “insha’ Allah”
      — if Allah wills — look at all the laws, traditions and dominant religious leaders.

      Not allowing personal responsibility, is one reason for the Muslim victim thinking,
      where everybody else gets blamed and could be punished even for the Muslims’ own
      caused circumstance.

      So criticism, no matter how earned, is feigned as an attack on honor, they will try to silence the
      criticism by pretending to be overly offended, by accusations, threatening, harming, or even killing
      the messenger. Maybe this just describes Human Nature, at its worst, yet very expected and
      prevalent among Muslims, they demand un-merited respect.

      In Muslim culture, anger is prevalent, and being a threat to people is seen as strong and socially accepted. Muslim groups or countries decry periods of holy anger — something most other
      societies never do.

      Muslim culture does not allow the same level of human dignity, allowed in the civilized world, so physical pain and threats are usually the known way to raise their children. This is why so many
      Muslim girls can grow up to accept violence in their own marriages, and why Muslim boys grow up
      using violence. Muslims traditionally use pain and threats on children in Muslim schools — even if
      they live in the West.

      Have a moderate Muslim, one at idle speed, the potential even then can be violent.

      • Mark Swan says

        Sep 4, 2016 at 3:07 pm

        Sorry, when I don’t get the Font Size right, this happens, I will just leave it this way.

  44. RJ says

    Sep 4, 2016 at 10:05 am

    DEMOCRATS IN AMERICA:

    DEMOCRATS IN AMERICA are on the ISLAMIC / Muslim Fast Track swallowing their LIES hook line and sinker…
    Democrats HATE Patriots, Republicans, and what Christianity stands for, but they LOVE their Muslims.

    SATAN has blinded the eyes of these atheist democrats in America, which was established on Christians Principles, which they HATE.

  45. Richard Paulsen says

    Sep 4, 2016 at 10:17 am

    Strange that so many want to go to the U.S.A. from the Muslim Majority World. Despite of so much police violence, discrimination, racism and so many xenophobes, homophobes and islamophobes.
    Even called racism not to allow in everyone looking for a better life. How come it is being called escape mosques being built?
    Does not make sense to me.

  46. David says

    Sep 4, 2016 at 11:05 am

    You say the Swine Obama has brought in 680,000 Muslims? GOOD GOD!
    And congress just sucks it’s thumb? And let’s these horrific crimes continue?
    That man is the worse TRAITOR in the history of this Nation. I hope, and Pray that we may eventually bring him to justice!
    May God please guide and protect the rest of us through the horrific times ahead.
    Every one if these “Obama Muslims” must be rounded up AND DEPORTED!

  47. John A. Marre says

    Sep 4, 2016 at 3:30 pm

    The current president of the USA won’t call them that either. No wonder Muslims like him so much.

  48. solange silverman says

    Sep 4, 2016 at 5:58 pm

    This is yet another example of Muslims playing the victim and trying to change history to their advantage. The only thing that can paint “all Muslims with the same brush” is an individual, something that cannot be helped or avoided. It is subjective. The truth should stand, even though it may offend some. In this world, there is nothing one can say or do that will not offend someone somewhere. Maybe we should just leave all of our monuments blank, you know, so we don’t offend anyone….

  49. Mark A says

    Sep 4, 2016 at 11:34 pm

    Let them be outraged. I hope the local authorities tell these Muslims to get lost.

    The people who carried out 9/11 were Islamic terrorists, so the inscription on the monument is simply stating the truth.

    If these Muslims who are complaining don’t like the truth, too bad.

  50. Cunamarra says

    Sep 5, 2016 at 2:08 am

    Doesn’t Islam paint Muslims with the same brush? When I read Islamic scriptures and discover the horrible ideas contained within them, what am I to think of a person who reveres these horrible ideas? What am I to think of someone who defends these ideas? I have lived and worked in an Islamic country for the better part of a decade now, and as many Muslims whom I have known that I believe have good hearts, I would be dishonest if I did not pick up on very pernicious beliefs or views that these otherwise “good” people hold.

    The comparison to Nazism and Germans isn’t quite accurate. A better analogy would be members of the Nazi Party to Nazism. Should we condemn all members of the Ku Klux Klan because a tiny minority carried out bombings, arson, and lynchings? The answer is yes. Not to condemn them all as murderers and vandals but as people who sympathize with oppression. Why would one join the KKK if they did not hold beliefs sympathetic to racial oppression? Oskar Schindler was comfortable supporting a party that would reject the Individual Rights of Liberty and Property. He drew the line at murder.

    This is where avoiding the honest discussion of what Islam teaches is so deleterious. The contemptible view the world has for Nazism and the KKK ought to be held toward Islam and would be if the world over did not fancy the intellectual and moral perversions that protect Islam.

    “The world over” is no exaggeration. Eleven female interpreters that work for my company that range in age from 18 to 62 can enumerate story after story of misery and real world nightmare ad infinitum of every atrocity one person could do to another. Stories that can be traced right to the Koran or Sirat Rasul Allah or a Hadith and yet never will these women find culpability in Islam or this False Prophet. I am watching a internationally televised talk show. The Oprah of the Arabic world is interviewing women who were married at 11, 8, 9 years old. They discuss their abuse, the ordeal, the misery of having disgusting old men engaging in their obscenities with these young girls. Anyone who is familiar with Islam and Muhammad is aware of why this practice is exonerated. Exonerated is not quite accurate. Sanction is closer but in this sick system of Islam the connotation of a blessing is carried with this practice. Through more than 40 minutes of discussing this topic on an Arabic program no allusion to Islam, no criticism of Islamic law or teachings, no discussion of Muhammad’s behavior is mentioned. Only a description of these women’s sufferings in their youth.

    I am at a loss as to how such a demonstrably evil ideology enjoys such protection no matter what nation discusses it. The West and the Anglo-sphere are not peculiar in this regard. The Far East is not free from this illness either.

    How can the only honest discussion of Islam be found only in what would be considered underground?

  51. Hugo says

    Sep 6, 2016 at 2:20 am

    & they want to build islamic study center near the Ground Zero, to built their statue of victory, to show how they have defeated the westerner, phisically & win the mind of some democrats using their own system, democracy 😉
    & The US Democrat support them, no wonder, afterall they got fund from the rich oil caliph, & they have Huma Amedin as their honey trapp 🙂

  52. hmmmm says

    Sep 6, 2016 at 6:07 am

    Truth hurts

    • hmmmm says

      Sep 6, 2016 at 6:17 am

      P.S. Since when is The Religion of Peace NOT enraged ?

  53. Elleblue says

    Sep 7, 2016 at 12:32 am

    That is how those people described themselves so what is the problem??? If peaceful Muslims don’t take a more prominent public stand against terrorism then they run the risk of being grouped with terrorists.

  54. Ali Bey says

    Sep 9, 2016 at 9:53 am

    I would change with “Koranic terrorists” or “Sharia terrorists”

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