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Raymond Ibrahim: Is Obama Waging a “Narrative Battle” against ISIS or Reality?

Sep 24, 2016 6:47 am By Raymond Ibrahim

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According to White House press secretary Josh Earnest, “When it comes to ISIL, we are in a fight—a narrative fight with them. A narrative battle.”  Earnest said this the day after two separate bombings occurred in New York, and an ISIS-linked Muslim went on a stabbing spree in Minnesota.  Obama’ spokesman later elaborated:

… remember ISIL is trying to assert a narrative, that they represent the religion of Islam in a war against the west and in a war against the United States. That is mythology. That is falsehood. That is not true. That is bankrupt ideology they are trying to wrap in the cloak of Islam.

This, of course, is a straw man argument: the real question isn’t whether ISIS “represents” Islam, but whether ISIS is a byproduct of Islam.  And this question can easily be answered by looking not to ISIS but Islam. One can point to Islamic doctrines that unequivocally justify ISIS behavior; one can point to the whole of Islamic history, nearly 14 centuries of ISIS precedents.

Or, if these two options are deemed too abstract, one can simply point to the fact that everyday Muslims all around the world are behaving just like ISIS.

For instance, Muslims—of all races, nationalities, languages, and socio-political and economic circumstances, in Arab, African, Central and East Asian nations—claim the lions’ share of Christian persecution; 41 of the 50 worst nations to be Christian in are Islamic.  In these countries, Muslim individuals, mobs, clerics, politicians, police, soldiers, judges, even family members—none of whom are affiliated with ISIS (other than by religion)—abuse and sometimes slaughter Christians, abduct, enslave and rape their women and children, ban or bomb churches, and kill blasphemers and apostates.

Anyone who doubts this can access my monthly “Muslim Persecution of Christians” reports and review the nonstop persecution and carnage committed by “everyday” Muslims—not ISIS—against Christians.  Each monthly report (there are currently 60, stretching back to July 2011) contains dozens of atrocities, most of which if committed by Christians against Muslims would receive nonstop media coverage in America.

Or consider a Pew poll which found that, in 11 countries alone, at least 63 million and as many as 287 million Muslims support ISIS.  Similarly, 81% of respondents to an Arabic language Al Jazeera poll supported the Islamic State.

Do all these hundreds of millions of Muslims support the Islamic State because they’ve been suckered into its “narrative”—or even more silly, because we have—or do they support ISIS because it reflects the same supremacist Islam that they know and practice, one that preaches hate and violence for all infidels, as America’s good friends and allies, the governments of Saudi Arabia and Qatar—not ISIS—are on record proclaiming?

It is this phenomenon, that Muslims the world over—and not just this or that terrorist group that “has nothing to do with Islam”—are exhibiting hostility for and terrorizing non-Muslims that the Obama administration and its mainstream media allies are committed to suppressing.  Otherwise the unthinkable could happen: people might connect the dots and understand that ISIS isn’t mangling Islam but rather Islam is mangling the minds of Muslims all over the world.

Hence why White House spokesman Josh Earnest can earnestly dismiss 14 centuries of Islamic history, doctrine, and behavior that mirrors ISIS: “That is mythology. That is falsehood. That is not true.” Hence why U.S. media coverage for one dead gorilla was six times greater than media coverage for 21 Christians whose heads were carved off for refusing to recant their faith.

The powers-that-be prefer that the debate—the “narrative”—be restricted to ISIS, so that the group appears as an aberration to Islam.  Acknowledging that untold millions of Muslims are engaged in similar behavior leads to a much more troubling narrative with vast implications.

Even so, until this ugly truth is accepted, countless more innocents—including many born Muslims who seek to break free from Islam—will continue to suffer from the world’s oldest supremacist ideology.

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  1. scherado says

    Sep 24, 2016 at 7:03 am

    A “narrative” is a story-line–as such, it may contain made-up stuff.

    • mortimer says

      Sep 24, 2016 at 10:52 am

      That’s it.

    • DM says

      Sep 25, 2016 at 3:49 pm

      He (“0”) is going to talk isis to death??? He has been effective in talking others to death, oh wait those were our people.

  2. JIMJFOX says

    Sep 24, 2016 at 7:24 am

    “narrative”- is that part of “outreach”??

  3. Peter says

    Sep 24, 2016 at 7:46 am

    He’s waging a narrative battle against people who think clearly and rationally see Islam for what it is: a declaration of war against non-Muslim humanity. Thus, he is trying to distort reality, such that his and the Islamophile lies about Islam being a “religion of peace, justice, tolerance and fairness” are perceived as “reality.”

    • mortimer says

      Sep 24, 2016 at 11:01 am

      Agree: “against people who think clearly and rationally”.

      Large numbers of Americans are becoming informed about the jihad doctrine of warfare against disbelievers. They can’t be tricked by such flimflam as they might have in the last year even.

      “Nothing to do with Islam” would get angry catcalls today if they said it in public.

      • billyquest says

        Sep 25, 2016 at 10:21 am

        and perhaps an airborne shoe or as in the days of vaudeville, a few overly ripe tomatoes..
        right in the smacker…..nah….too many security guards and such…he can say pretty much
        what he wishes…..But, only the dimwitted and pathetic are lending any weight to his
        ramblings…most all of our so called allies try to stifle an in his face guffaw at the incompetence
        so grandly on display….it is in a sense like …”the trumpeters blast their horns to draw attention,
        the royal red carpet is rolled out, the heads of state in their regalia are positioned to receive
        the honored dignitary from the USA, the crowds are pressing forward to see the President
        and are cheering, clapping their hands….some wave American flags……the royal coach arrives…stops…the footmen scramble to open the coach door….the crowd holds its collective
        breath……..and OUT JUMPS GRACHO MARKS………”say the secret word and you get $400
        billion dollars…and todays secret word is IRAN tells the truth”……..” Oh good grief Charlie
        Brown, I am embarrassed to have him visit any other Nation…. like the child that cannot be
        on it*s own in public as you never know what it might say or do……I am ashamed of his
        bowing and kissing the hand of the Saudi king…..his disparaging remarks of WTP when he
        is in muslim nations…..his meddling/he and the Clinton SoS in the ME to wit…we are now
        in a prolonged and deadly War with the muslim psychopaths that he and his wicked witch of the east have instigated and fanned the flames of madness…..Unless the embedded base of
        the Democratic party is out-done this election and HRC is elected as Pres. then I do not see
        ANY positive future for this Nation…she and her ilk have sucked the vitality of the WTP for
        decades and will continue to do so…..WAKE UP young people…it has all happened before
        and it took decades to undo the wreckage done by people like Obama and the Clintons….
        VOTE TRUMP!!!!!

  4. John Boston says

    Sep 24, 2016 at 8:08 am

    Al-Jazeera poll: 81% of Muslim respondents support ISIS. So much for the ” terrorists pervert Islam” lie.

    Anyone even faintly interested in Islamic history will learn that from the Islamic terrorist attacks in the daily news, back through the 1453 conquest of Constantinople, the 711-late 18th century gruesome conquests and occupations of India, the 711 conquest of Spain, the 637 conquest of Jerusalem, and back to the 623 raids by Muhammad (sallalahu alaihe wa salam) himself on peaceful Meccan caravans, Islam has been, in the words of Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, a “religion of war”. I have a really good question for my fellow kafirs: when are we going to start listening to what non-Western Muslims say about their plans for us? It’s not like they are being sneaky. That’s CAIR’s job.

    • DM says

      Sep 25, 2016 at 3:58 pm

      … remember ISIL is trying to assert a narrative, that they represent the religion of Islam in a war against the west and in a war against the United States. That is mythology. That is falsehood. That is not true. That is bankrupt ideology they are trying to wrap in the cloak of Islam.
      Allah is his name, KILLING is his game. His followers have been playing the same game relentlessly for 1400+ years. They kill each other, they kill the Kifar. They kill in the most savage ways possible. There is no end insight because Western Civilization for the most part refuses to grasp that islam is islam, not some faction that doesn’t understand the quran. They, all of islam, understands perfectly, that the quran charges them with killing ALL who do not agree with allah. They respond by killing for allah all the Kifars they can get to. They kill each other because of some imagined schism.

  5. Crusades Were Right! says

    Sep 24, 2016 at 8:39 am

    When (please God) Trump wins the presidency, he should appoint people like Robert Spencer, Raymond Ibrahim, David Wood, Bill Warner, Nonie Darwish, et al, to be his Advisory Council on Islam and the Middle East.

    • JIMJFOX says

      Sep 24, 2016 at 11:00 am

      Yes, please! How much does he know about these heroes, though?

  6. Mak says

    Sep 24, 2016 at 10:07 am

    To be more succinct: Obama is waging a war against Americans.

    • utis says

      Sep 24, 2016 at 10:34 am

      It certainly seems that way. Obama is too busy placating our Muslim “allies”. What America needs is a good old-fashioned psych war. I don’t see any evidence of this in our government. Only the Resistance by regular people. It’s clear from Orlando and Nice and Calais that Obama and other Western leaders wouldn’t recognize “reality” if it cut off their heads.
      When resistance is futile, resistance becomes our only option. Self-education is a form of resistance.

      • mortimer says

        Sep 24, 2016 at 11:03 am

        Agree: “war against Americans”

        A propaganda war … a war of fantasy!

        Telling Americans what they know already is not true … the ‘religion of peace’ BIG LIE! It doesn’t work anymore.

      • Mak says

        Sep 24, 2016 at 1:39 pm

        And the fact that reality is distorted is a huge problem. So I have a few friends on the “liberal left coast” from when I worked with a few companies out there. Every time I talk with them about the Muslim problem they seem uninterested and say “We don’t see any of what you’re talking about.” They are living with their heads in the sand!

        It seems like many in the Western world are so focused on non-problems that we forget the real ones. SJW’s seem to care so much about a person getting their feelings hurt yet they ignore people getting their throats cut or displaced from their homes.

        The sad fact is only a very small percentage of the world is aware of the threats that face us. And it seems almost illegal in much of the world to name one of the biggest threats to our civilization: Islam.

        Islam doesn’t need reform. It doesn’t need to be placated. Islam doesn’t need their demands to be met (because they will just issue more). Islam needs one thing: eradication; if we are to survive as a civilization.

  7. Alarmed Pig Farmer says

    Sep 24, 2016 at 10:18 am

    We have narratives flying all over the place, so many that reality is blurred, sometimes even to the point of reversal. But there is no stopping the Moslems. Of the tens of thousands of fake refugees brought in illegally by Prez Barack Hussein, maybe 250 are Christians. Lost is the blur is that it’s the Christians who are being mass murdered in the Levant, not the Moslems. That would make them the refugees in this situation, the conditional would being the operative word here, in the absence of reality.

    Orwell would be in awe of the sophistication and transparency of propaganda today, it’s beyond his wildest dreams. Whoops meant to type beyond his wildest nightmares.

    • mortimer says

      Sep 24, 2016 at 11:06 am

      They only ‘value’ that Muslim immigrants share with Americans is the desire for a more prosperous future for their families. Apart from that, Muslims have no shared value if they piously support Sharia.

  8. Paul Clark says

    Sep 24, 2016 at 10:30 am

    There is also another narrative in Revelations. Jesus will tell some claiming to be Christian that he “never knew” them. Obama claims to be a Christian. His actions speak tremendously different. Jesus will also denounce the “luke warm churches” This is why I cry out to my brothers and sisters: Where have you gone? Have you fled the cross. Pick up your cross and follow Him. There will be a judgement. Do you want to hear,. ” I knew you not.” You are the “bride” of Christ and you must get out of the pews and onto the streets and into the communities to save your religious freedoms and America. Pray for the Christians to have the courage to face the demons of Islam.

    • Kepha says

      Sep 24, 2016 at 1:40 pm

      Paul, the last book of the Bible is Revelation, not Revelations. Further, where Jesus tells those claiming to be Christians that he never knew them is at Matthew 7:23, at the end of the Sermon on the Mount (which, when I was young, I was told was the sweetest and lightest of all the sweetness and light that is the New Testament, as opposed to the Old Testament [boo, hiss]–which was the point when, after reading the Bible for myself, I learned about the fallibility of those who are supposed to be our intellectual betters).

      By all means, read the Bible and learn it. But get the citations right!

    • Champ says

      Sep 24, 2016 at 1:56 pm

      More wrongheaded admonitions from “Paul Clark” toward Christians …

      This is Jihad Watch, not a platform for you to preach to Christians and “shame them”, as you put it on another thread, with each and every comment. Hey there are other forums that might welcome your scorn and hatred toward Christians, but it isn’t welcome here.

      Take aim at the real enemy: islam & company. If you can, If you dare.

    • Champ says

      Sep 24, 2016 at 2:11 pm

      Paul Clark wrote:

      “…you must get out of the pews and onto the streets and into the communities to save your religious freedoms and America.”

      ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

      So why are YOU always on the computer?

      Practice what you preach, pal.

      • Kepha says

        Sep 24, 2016 at 4:37 pm

        Is Paul really shaming or aattacking Christians? Maybe he’s just another high-spirited sort (who’s gotten a few biblical references crossed).

        • Champ says

          Sep 24, 2016 at 4:42 pm

          Kepha, yesterday–on another thread, Paul Clark actually stated his reasons for why he keeps harping on Christians is to “shame” them, unquote. He chose this word, not me.

  9. Walter Sieruk says

    Sep 24, 2016 at 10:44 am

    In this “war of idea’s” with the Islamic enemy some Westerners do understand that the jihadist/Muslims who compose the brutal and deadly Jihad organization ISIS have a violent and murderous ideology. Nevertheless , what many of those same Westerners do fail to understand is the the very foundation of ideology that malicious jihad entity is entirely build on the theology of Islam with all it’s jihad violence and killing that rests on the instruction of the Qu’ ran. As found this “holy book” of Islam in 2:191. 5:33. 8:60 . 9:5, 111,123. 47:4. 98:6. As two Christian scholars on both the Bible and Islam as well as ISIS had explained “Current opinions about ISIS often suffer from a ‘politically correct’ notion focused on this groups’s ideology while ignoring its theology. We cannot property assess ISIS ideology without taking into account ISIS theology.” [1]

    [1] JESUS AND THE JIHADIS CONFRONTING THE RAGE OF ISIS : THE THEOLOGY DRIVING THE IDEOLOGY page 22

  10. mortimer says

    Sep 24, 2016 at 11:37 am

    Obama is still WAGING WAR AGAINST the REALITY that Islam contains an authentic doctrine of jihad-warfare against disbelievers.

    Obama is REALITY-RESISTANT, REALITY-INTOLERANT, REALITY-ALLERGIC, REALITY-PHOBIC.

    • Keys says

      Sep 24, 2016 at 11:56 am

      Yep, he is a deceived deceiver.

    • Banislam says

      Sep 24, 2016 at 5:47 pm

      Obama knows, he’s just performing “his” jihad.

    • carol says

      Sep 25, 2016 at 1:17 am

      I heard Alex Jones state recently and quite seriously that he believes Obama is a psychopath.

  11. Angemon says

    Sep 24, 2016 at 1:41 pm

    The powers-that-be prefer that the debate—the “narrative”—be restricted to ISIS, so that the group appears as an aberration to Islam.

    They can’t fool everyone all the time.

  12. Kepha says

    Sep 24, 2016 at 4:50 pm

    Yes, this is a narrative against reality.

    One of the chickens coming home to roost is the folly, engaged in by too many Christian leaders in the period of time from ca. 1920-2001, that all religions are basically the same (or ought to be). It is one of the things that has given us a profound ignorance about anything theological and a tin ear to the differences between the various movements called “religions”. We’ve seen it here with some posters who think that all the trouble with the Jihadis is simply that they’re “religious” (to which a very large number of us here have pointed out MAJOR differences between Christianity and Islam, not least of whom has been our host); while on another side, we witness the death throes of a facile liberal ecumenicism which really wants to believe that at heart, the fire-breathing imam whose congregants get picked up for plotting bombings is really the same sort of good-hearted nebbish as the non-Gantry-esque Christian clergy portrayed by Hollywood from ca. 1946-1972.

    I hate to say this, but anyone who worms his way into the State Department or other important government department who dissents from either the evolutionary materialist, liberal Protestant, or post-Vatican II RC line had better be very careful about the people who hear him observe that different religions have different ethics. I had one immediate supervisor who once let it slip, after a stint in Thailand, that he found Buddhism a “selfish religion”. I notice his career wasn’t that much longer than mine. I’m sure that at present, there are very few who will dare to say there’s a very violent “main current” (as opposed to undertow) in Islam.

    Unhappily for the West, people steeped in liberal “all-the-same-ism” are the ones in power on both sides of the Atlantic. They have a vested interest in pushing the lying narrative we hear from the O and others; and it is going to continue to put very dangerous blinders on our government.

  13. Peter Charles says

    Sep 24, 2016 at 8:12 pm

    What does Obama mean ISIL , what is IL ? Has he ever stated what it means to him, or are we just guessing?

    • carol says

      Sep 25, 2016 at 1:50 am

      Peter…it’s definitely odd and a little jarring that Obama continues to use the term ISIL. At first I figured he just preferred this initial term since it refers to the wider area of the Levant. But now it seems more and more of the members of his administration are using the term also (WHY, when no one else is?). All I can think of is what Islamic “insider” expert, Dr. Tawfik Hamid has to say. He reveals that a lack of specificity – or a lack of correctly NAMING an enemy actually allows any supposed criticism to be taken at face value e.g. “we condemn terrorism”. This assuages those who are not “in the know”. But the insiders get the real message – which is that there is no REAL condemnation and all is well, carry on etc. (we still love ya).
      A man who marries using an old ring marked ‘There is no God but Allah” looks pretty suspect to me. And his relationship to university roommate Hasan Chandoo probably points to the REAL Barak Obama.

      • Carolyne says

        Sep 25, 2016 at 11:25 am

        I too think Obama’s using ISIL and apparently requiring his administration to also do so is some kind of code to the enemy (Islam) that he still supports them.

        As for his “Wedding” ring, I don’t understand why the media hasn’t jumped all over it as they do those who criticize Islam. Never mind. I know the answer.

  14. Rob says

    Sep 24, 2016 at 9:32 pm

    Senior academic at Al Azhar University in Cairo* stated that ISIS in not heretical and another** stated that rape is entirely appropriate for Yazidi and other conquered women because it is an effective way of ‘humiliating them’
    * This the fountainhead of Sunni jurisprudence and where Obama made his messianic speech early in his presidency.
    ** A woman
    It baffles me to understand how anyone could place separation between Islam and ISIS. If it looks like Islam and acts like Islam it IS Islam.

  15. Eric Jones says

    Sep 24, 2016 at 10:59 pm

    All due respect to Mr. Ibrahim. I learn a lot from his work. Narrative is not even the question. The facts of action on the ground is what is important. Islam the enemy, justifies warfare againt and subjugation of infidels. This is the only fact. The raising of a narrative is a distraction raised by imam Obama as a way to take attention away from the actions of Obama.

    Do not allow Obama to frame the discussion by using the word narrative. Obama’s actions speak louder than any words.

    Eight yeras of Obama administration is a series of actions that are an effort to install Sharia in as many countries as he can before he leaves office. These are the secular governments of Muslim countris he has destroyed or is attempting to destroy: Libya, Syria, Egypt until Morsi was kicked out. I am sure that Obama would like some pretext to impose Sharia in the USA. .

    Never under estimate Obama. He is the smartest guy in the room. That’s what makes him dangerous.

    Eric

    • carol says

      Sep 25, 2016 at 2:12 am

      I think Obama’s been arrogantly obvious actually (aren’t most psychopaths like this?). A man with a willing ear to the likes of hate-speech icon Jeremiah Wright etc.? They bank on SHORT memories and no one dares confront them once they obtain power. No one dares DEMAND that these “leaders” get their heads examined first (can’t an MRI detect PSYCHOPATHY now?). If thieving, treasonous manipulator Hillary gets in then the whole world will know America is full of fools and/or cynics. Gun-toting hillbillies are starting to look pretty good to me.

  16. Dustin Koellhoffer says

    Sep 25, 2016 at 9:28 am

    Obama promotes his fantasy version of Islam ignoring the reality.
    http://ipatriot.com/fantasy-islam-vs-reality-islamic-terrorism/

  17. Lioness says

    Sep 25, 2016 at 10:32 am

    US is not waging any kind of battle against ISIS, not even narrative. The military drops a few bombs in the sand for show, and the generals have a press conference to boast that ISIS is losing, which in fact they are not. Obama says we are not at war with Islam, but we ought to be, and not just in narrative.

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