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Robert Spencer in PJ Media: Why the War On Terror Has Taken 15 Years, and Will Take Much Longer

Sep 15, 2016 10:37 am By Robert Spencer

In PJ Media I explain some of the failures that have gotten us into this fix:

911 attacks

This war has gone on for a very long time, and last Sunday, the 15th anniversary of the September 11, 2001 jihad attacks, among all the reminiscences, and eulogies, and encomia, virtually no one attempted to explain why.

There’s a simple reason this topic wasn’t discussed: among our political and media “elites,” no one knows the answer.

Even the most dire estimates of exactly how long this is going to take have fallen wide of the mark. General Petraeus said in 2010 that it could take another ten years to defeat the Afghan “insurgency.” Do you think the Taliban is likely to be disbanded and Afghanistan to be a stable, functioning republic in 2020?

In 2007, Britain’s security chief, Admiral Lord Alan West, said it could take 30 years to defeat terrorism in the United Kingdom. Do you think that in 2037, Britain will be peaceful and free of jihad terrorists?

The very idea is preposterous, and it is preposterous for the same reason that 15 years after 9/11, no one knows why this strange war has lasted so long.

West said more in that 2007 interview:

I now realize that we are talking about a generation — and by that I would say 30 years. That doesn’t mean necessarily that we are going to stay at a severe level of threat for all those years. But to be able to say one has absolutely changed the mind-set and thought of people IS going to take a generation.

West nailed the answer there — but no one seemed to notice.

Because nothing, nothing whatsoever, is being done in Britain or anywhere else to change “the mind-set and thought of people.”

That is precisely why, fifteen years after 9/11, the West is weaker and more vulnerable than ever.

The entirety of Western intelligentsia, the totality of our political and media elites, steadfastly refuses to acknowledge exactly what the “mindset and thought” of the terrorists really is, and where it comes from. Because of that refusal, policies that don’t deal with the actual problem keep being applied and re-applied — at the cost of thousands of American lives, billions of American dollars — and we have nothing to show for this expenditure besides a sharp and continuing loss of American power and prestige.

The jihadis who struck the U.S. on September 11, 2001 have made such immense advances since then not because they are strong, or clever, or capable, but because we are weak, short-sighted, and resolute. Resolute not in fighting them, but in maintaining our denial about who they are and what they want.

The denial is so complete that we have taken numerous steps to actually enable them to achieve their goals: the billions gifted to the Islamic Republic of Iran and the welcoming of the massive Muslim migrant influx are just two of the most recent examples.

On the 15th anniversary of the 9/11 attacks, instead of stories about the jihad threat and how it can be defeated or at least contained, the media posted articles that would give an uninformed observer the impression that 3,000 Muslims were killed on 9/11. The media preoccupation today is almost entirely with Muslims as victims:

“Muslim Americans still struggle with hate crimes, 15 years after 9/11,” claimed AOL.

“For many Muslims, especially those born after Sept. 11, Islamophobia seems to be a fact of life,” lamented the Huffington Post.

The Washington Post ran a piece by Rep. Keith Ellison:

I’m the first Muslim in Congress. I believe America can beat Islamophobia. Fifteen years after 9/11, American Muslims have seen both progress and peril.

After Fort Hood, and Boston, and Garland, and Chattanooga, and San Bernardino, and Orlando, and Paris, and Brussels, and Nice, and so very many others, this myopia is ludicrous to the point of being grotesque.

And it is the key reason why this war drags on, fifteen years after 9/11: millions unthinkingly accept the dogma that to speak honestly and accurately about the jihadis’ motives and goals is to descend into “racism” and “bigotry,” and to endanger innocent Muslims.

Fifteen years after jihadis murdered nearly 3,000 Americans, it is still almost unheard-of for there to be an honest discussion of jihadi motives and goals in the mainstream….

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  1. cjk says

    Sep 15, 2016 at 10:50 am

    I don’t think it’s going to take too much more time for Mohammedanism to prevail and conquer the world, perhaps 20 years? The fifth column working for those fiends is strong and worldwide with few exceptions. Yep the end is coming and it’s looking far worse and perverse than I ever expected.

    • Jay Boo says

      Sep 15, 2016 at 11:09 am

      Long term goal.
      Hurting the enemy more than the enemy hurts us has many immediate tactical advantages and offers a means of self-defense, but what kind of world does this inevitably lead us to. If we dissect and disassemble Allah and other violent memes, the likelihood of unnecessary conflicts decreases. What if, in the future, no one needs to get hurt? That is a radical hypothetical.
      ————————————————————–

      As far as Islam conquering the whole world, that will never happen.
      Terrorism is the tool of weaklings. Muhammad’s 72 virgin child rapist Islamic ideology is so void of any spiritual meaning that without outside enemies Muslims brutalize each other just to endure the endless misery of living inside a cage where they must kiss a worn carpet five times a day to stave off the endless rage of the (Serpent of Satan) Muhammad’s fictional Evil Buffoon called Allah.

      • James says

        Sep 16, 2016 at 12:33 pm

        You are sadly mistaken.

        The violent jihad is a distraction used to scare people and keep their eyes off of the real threat.

        That threat is Civilization Jihad. In most countries in Europe the birth rate among Muslims is eight times higher than the native population. This is not an accident. Many of their Imans preach continual birth among Muslims as a way to overwhelm the non-believers. It is estimated that by 2050, Europe will be an Islamic state at this rate.

        The same is being done in many other places around the world due to the immigration that has taken place since 9/11. The military pressure on these groups is needed, but birth control or deportation back to their original homes is need much worse.

        • Pong says

          Sep 17, 2016 at 12:38 am

          Elections in London or Kieth Ellison to Congress clearly shows that moslems don’t need to wait till 2050, when they became majority. There is enough stupid leftists, who will help them to take power much earlier, I would say 10 years.
          Some European countries are already almost islamised.

    • jihad3tracker says

      Sep 15, 2016 at 11:43 am

      HELLO cjk —- If I might say what should be obvious to everyone here who reads Jihad Watch on a regular basis: VOTE FOR TRUMP ! THAT AT LEAST WILL GIVE US THE POSSIBILITY OF WINNING AGAINST THE JIHAD-LOVING SLICE OF MUSLIMS.

      ALSO — between now and election day in November, talk to your undecided or Democrat family members and friends. As gently as you can, pass along these excellent truth resources: www [dot] citizenwarrior [dot] com / www [dot] inquiryintoislam [dot] com / www [dot] politicalislam [dot] com / www [dot] thereligionofpeace [dot] com / www [dot] barenakedislam [dot] com.

      BEST OF ALL, SET ASIDE SOME TIME WITH THOSE PERSONS — ON A SHARED COMPUTER — and actually go to the websites I listed above. Probably the absolute best dose of reality regarding orthodox, complete, comprehensive Islam & bloodthirsty Allah’s commands toward Infidels is this: “The Qur’an’s last word on non-Muslims” — an item you can find by using the search box at Citizenwarrior.

      A word of advice, however: if you are not already familiar with the principle of abrogation (cancelling of earlier verses if later ones conflict with them) GET YOURSELF FAMILIAR WITH IT BEFORE having that mutual session with another person, when the Citizenwarrior article is read by both of you together.

      Finally, if those busy family members and friends can only spare 4 minutes and 56 seconds, send them to brilliant and puckishly-witted Dr. David Wood’s video titled “The Jihad Triangle”. Urge them to view it when not distracted or multitasking, because David constructs a solid lucid path about the “radicalization” process, but it is packed into a dense slice of time and thus needs close attention.

      • cjk says

        Sep 15, 2016 at 5:27 pm

        Seen a lot of David Wood’s stuff so I’ll have to see ‘The Jihad Triangle’ soon. Most definitely voting for trump although I feel certain that he will be assassinated if elected. Unfortunately I see almost no hope of The West defeating Mohammedanism. Even a wicked, evil, god will defeat no God. We as a society have no God anymore

    • خَليفة says

      Sep 15, 2016 at 1:14 pm

      Islam will never dominate China, and thus will never control the world.
      China would not hesitate to nuke Mecca if need be, bomb first, ask second.
      Average IQ in China is >105, in Middle East its <85, Muslims are simply not smart enough to rule the world. Look at the violent history of the caliphate when it existed, how many caliphs were killed by someone wanting that power? Does anyone think it would be different today? If you said yes, would you be interested in buying the Brooklyn Bridge?

      https://iq-research.info/en/page/average-iq-by-country

      The reason war on terror is taking so long is simple:
      To put fire out must spray water at base of fire, NOT on flames and smoke.

      • DhimmiNot says

        Sep 15, 2016 at 2:40 pm

        I like your metaphor.
        Assuming you know where the base is (actually, multiple bases), what is “water”, and how is spraying done using what tools, and by whom?
        … and what do you do with “crowd control”, ie the many who just stand around and potentially interfere.

        • خَليفة says

          Sep 15, 2016 at 7:07 pm

          Thanks, yes, it is a complicated problem, with no easy answer.

      • cjk says

        Sep 15, 2016 at 5:29 pm

        That IQ hasn’t seemed to do a whole lot for China. China is, has been, and will continue to be a backward nation.

        • خَليفة says

          Sep 15, 2016 at 6:53 pm

          China is huge, For all the backwardness, there is an equal amount of technological capability. iPhones and iPads, high end electronics, ship engines, are made in China. China is perhaps the only country that has the ability to manufacture EVERY TYPE OF THING that is used in the world today. Any component, part, tool, screw, bearing ball, TV panel, LED, medical component, solar panels, etc, etc. for anything Being made by some country- there is a similar thing being made in China. It’s true, the final firmware on things like iPhones, is typically installed outside of China as there is also much bootleg production of everything ( they wouldn’t hesitate to nuke Mecca either )

          The world needs China more than China needs the world.

          Conversely, the Middle East needs the world FAR MORE than the world needs the Middle East. The Middle East is a parasite that dreams of being its host.

        • cjk says

          Sep 16, 2016 at 2:14 am

          I have zero admiration for a nation which holds a murderer of 70 million of it’s own people in high regard. That is the epitome of stupidity and backwardness. The world would be far better off without such an evil threat to peace as China poses. Ask all of China’s neighbors how they feel about China. Ok, my bad because north Korea adores it’s master, China.

  2. Jaladhi says

    Sep 15, 2016 at 10:59 am

    To me, it will take forever so long as we don’t put the blame squarely where it belongs – Islam and Muslims!! In this war there are no Muslims who will not oppose us and fight against us. Our policy is to differentiate between the so called “moderate” Muslims and the radicals so as not to make all Muslims mad at us. Our experts have even coined a new word “Islamists” who are supposed to be the bad guys and the rest of Muslims are good guys. The Islamist is an euphemism for the radicals. The fact is all Muslims are Islamists per the definition of an Islamist – who is a person wanting to convert all of us to Islam and all Muslims are obligated to spread Islam by any means.

    As long as we keep giving Muslims a free pass for their atrocities against us, we will be fighting this war on terror forever.

    • خَليفة says

      Sep 15, 2016 at 7:12 pm

      Islam is a global pyramid scheme, trying to disguise as a religion.

  3. Walter Sieruk says

    Sep 15, 2016 at 10:59 am

    That murderous jihad terror attacks on September 11 2001 was the results demonic/Islamic scheming of many heads and operatives of al Qaeda . That Islamic terror organization, Al Qaeda ,was given “birth ” to by Sunni Islam. Likewise , the Islamic terror entity, Hezbollah , was given “birth” to by Shi’ite Islam. Before that 9/11 affront more Americans were murdered by Hezbollah then even by Al Qaeda.
    The point being twofold. First, both branches of Islam products wicked fruits. Jesus taught “By their fruit you will know them. ” Matthew 7;20. Second both Sunni and Shi’ite Islam as well as all other kinds of Islam are in terrible doctrinal error, falsehood and darkness because Islam denies the true Nature of Jesus as the Bible teaches . The way for a person to discover the truth concerning the nature of Jesus is found in the Bible verse Isaiah 8:20. This instructs “To the law of the testimony. If they do not speak according to the word, it is because there is no light in them.” [N.K.J.V.] In other words, if a religious teacher has teaching that are in contradiction to the Word, the Bible, then that teachers is a false teacher who teaches false doctrines. The Muslim clerics, as the imam and mullahs, teach and speak doctrines about God from the Quran .
    As the Quran in 112 teaches “He is God alone: God is the eternal begetteth not…” Likewise, this religious book which is the entire foundation of and for Islam further teaches in 19:35. “It is not befitting to God that He should beget a son.” In great contrast the Bible teaches in John 1:14. “The Word was made flesh and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory , the glory of the only begotten of the Father ,full of grace and truth.” Likewise John 3:16 teaches “For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son… Then just a little further in verse 18 it is written about Jesus Who is “the only begotten Son of God. “ Other places in the Bible further teach that Jesus is the Son of God as in Matthew 16:15:16. Luke 1:35. John 3:36. First John 4:14. 15. 5:14,15. Moreover to be even more clear the Bible teaches that Jesus is the Son of God, Who is God the Father. As found in Matthew 3:16,17. First John 2:22,23. 4:14,15. Of course , it ,very much, needs to made even more specific . The Bible teaches that Jesus is also God the Son. As seen in Hebrew1:8 and First John 5:20. The imams and mullahs as well as the other apologists for Islam will try to “explain” this all away. As in they will try brush off all those Bible verse off by making the claim that the Bible had been corrupted, through time, by Christians and that’s why the Bible reads as it does. That claim they make actually underestimate the Power of God to protect and keep His Word safe and intact ,through time, and away from the corruption of men.
    In conclusion ,with the above instruction of the way to find doctrinal truth in Isaiah 8:20 and in the light of the Bible verse provided it may be clearly seen, by all those who are willing to see, that Islam is in terrible doctrinal error and it is therefore a false religion, Proverbs 14:12. John 14;6.

    • Jim says

      Sep 15, 2016 at 11:33 am

      Google James Smith, or better search for him on YouTube, to learn why Muslims have for centuries been worshipping a false god, that the six texts of the “original” Koran don’t even agree with each other (not to mention they are incomplete), and that carbon dating indicates the high likelihood parts of the Koran were even written before Muhammad was born.

    • BC says

      Sep 16, 2016 at 12:08 pm

      There are no false gods and real gods. Why do you claim your god is real and somebody else’s false?.
      All religion is based on myth and falsehood.
      In case you are not aware organised religion only appeared when men learned to write. How do you think
      humanity got along for the hundreds of thousands of years before that? Was ‘god’ talking a nap?

    • Pong says

      Sep 17, 2016 at 5:41 am

      Thank you for a Sunday school lesson. I understand now that your god has a bigger dick.

  4. Jim says

    Sep 15, 2016 at 11:21 am

    Well put. Succinct and to the point. Nothing could be more true. We are where we are because Muslims (some who are my friends and relatives) allow their children to be brainwashed by their clerics. But they have also been successful in brainwashing American and other world leaders. It would take a massive march on Washington by millions of Americans or some similar event (the majority of Americans write letters to congress, the majority of Americans go on strike for a day, or some combination — fill in your own suggestion) to even begin to get the attention of our leaders. Until we hit our leaders in the face with some happening of this sort (or until we have another 9/11) they will not have the courage to acknowledge the truth and take action to do something positive about it. May the force be with us.

    • Pong says

      Sep 17, 2016 at 5:34 am

      With americans having moslems friends and relatives, we have no hope.

  5. Jay Boo says

    Sep 15, 2016 at 11:30 am

    No offense Walter, you offer some very good information but — From Islam is bad to comparative religion to proselytizing chapter and verse, I have a bit of difficulty tying that all together in relation to this specific topic.

    • JIMJFOX says

      Sep 15, 2016 at 2:28 pm

      With you, Jay Boo- Walter is as indoctrinated as any muslim-
      he doesn’t realise that Religion is the problem, not the answer.

      “The way to see by Faith is to shut the eye of reason” Benjamin Franklin

      • Mo says

        Sep 15, 2016 at 6:33 pm

        @ JIMJFOX

        “With you, Jay Boo- Walter is as indoctrinated as any muslim-
        he doesn’t realise that Religion is the problem, not the answer.”

        “Religion” is not the problem. ISLAM is the problem. So address THAT!

        Otherwise, be gone, anti-Christian troll.

    • Champ says

      Sep 15, 2016 at 7:15 pm

      Jay Boo wrote:

      I have a bit of difficulty tying that all together in relation to this specific topic.

      ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

      You do? I don’t! I deeply enjoy Walter’s point of view.

  6. Westman says

    Sep 15, 2016 at 11:52 am

    Last Sunday I put up the American Flag in remembrance of 9/11. I looked down the street and saw no others. Within an hour, one neighbor put up a flag and no more appeared after that.

    I remember growing up after the Pearl Harbor attack, listening to realitives, movies, and politicians recounting it. They made sure that I understood and didn’t forget.

    Today I hear a generation, only elementary and kindergarten students on 9/11, blaming the US for 9/11 and calling, with Islamists, for the destruction of Israel. They are too lazy to learn the ideology from its core sources, relying instead upon equally ignorant or compromised leaders and the MSM. They are like sheep walking down the slaughterhouse shute conversing about the lush grass that must be just around the corner.

    30 years? The world will never be fully safe from Islamic Jihad because the “books” of Islam contain the inspiration and justification for violent jihad from the Islamic “God”. There will always be the potential spectre of a violent jihad revival from “believers”.

    • 5MJihawgbullets says

      Sep 17, 2016 at 11:33 am

      Ref: 30 years? via Westman’s post, Robert’s topic & The Jim Bohannon Show last night:

      Few ever say it but many millions/billions know it! The Amazing Kreskin was Jim’s guest for nearly two hours. At the end of the first hour Kreskin stated a fact on the radio.

      With just a minute before the ad break and wanting to quickly reference the attacks on September 11, 2001 Kreskin told Jim & the millions tuned in, “Not one person living today will see the end of this war with radical Islam.”

      Many here now might think it but we never say it knowing it will be that exact way.

      1MJ

  7. Angemon says

    Sep 15, 2016 at 12:37 pm

    I don’t know how long the “war on terror” will continue to be waged. At least the way it’s going on today. I suspect Americans – and Westerners in general – will eventually be tired of spending lives and gold in a war where there’s no defined enemy, rules of engagement, conditions for victory and conditions for defeat.

  8. Jonathan says

    Sep 15, 2016 at 2:48 pm

    I remember the day it happened. People in the building I was in were all scared, and we all went home early. GWB then did strange things. He had big televised meetings with Muslims, and he claimed Islam was a religion of peace. Strange. Then Obama followed up stating that the future *must* belong to those who never talk smack about Mohamed. Traitors to The Enlightenment values which founded America.

    These people can “beat Islamophobia” as just as soon as events like Hebdo, Garland, Brussels, and Orlando STOP HAPPENING. Until it does these a-holes (and all of the cultural left) should STFU about phobia claims, and instead work on stopping their religion from being the most awful one ever invented in the history of man.

    The proof is in the pudding, and the pudding from Islam comes straight from a cesspool.

  9. Mark A says

    Sep 15, 2016 at 3:26 pm

    Islam has been attacking its neighbors throughout Islam’s 1400+ year history. It’s not going to stop anytime soon.

    If we expect western civilization to continue we will constantly be fighting Islam to defend our western civilization.

  10. DHazard says

    Sep 15, 2016 at 4:07 pm

    It’s a no win situation. Denying the truth helps Islam spread. Speaking the truth helps Islam spread.
    The deniers benefit from never really being properly identified. But if it became general knowledge that the doctrines of Islam are the source of almost all Islamic terrorism then that would just strengthen the
    Muslims widespread feeling that the world is out to get them. And all of this because of one mentally unbalanced man’s religious con job 1400 years ago.

  11. AformerMuslim says

    Sep 15, 2016 at 8:14 pm

    We should be focusing on Islamic terrorism, not Islamophobia (which btw is an attempt to shift the conversation).

    Of course, we should not do anything unlawful to Muslims.

    However, it is Islamic terrorism that has caused panic in all over the world, not Islamaphobia.

    More than 20000 attacks since 9/11. We must focus on this.

    A former Muslim
    http://www.aformermuslim.com

  12. Marty says

    Sep 16, 2016 at 8:00 am

    “Muslim Americans still struggle with hate crimes, 15 years after 9/11,” claimed AOL.
    They don’t struggle in the least.
    They find them easy to commit.
    The major source of muslim terrorism is Saudi Arabia, and it has been
    supported, even rewarded, by the West.

  13. Space Cowboy says

    Sep 16, 2016 at 9:10 am

    We are not at war with only a small subset of Muslims our political elites call so-called “radical Islamic terrorists” who misunderstand the beautiful religion of peace. Instead, we are at war with the entire Islamic totalitarian world that has been waging a jihad against all of us non-Muslim infidels perpetually for the past 1400 years nonstop, in which an estimated 270 million non-Muslim people have been brutally murdered in cold blood, and more than three time the number of people than were killed in all of WWI and WWII combined, in a jihad driven perpetually by the ideological force of Islam and all those that follow that ideological force of Islam, i.e. ALL MUSLIMS IN THE WORLD.

    Moreover, MIGRATION JIHAD, which is what mass Muslim immigration with all of its excess baggage actually is, has been the primary mode of jihad employed by Muslims to conquer non-Muslim infidels for the past 1400 years.

    Hence, our only common sense solution to our collective worldwide Islam problem is to separate our two fully incompatible societies from one another by expelling all the enemy Muslim invaders from our respective non-Muslim infidel countries ASAP, then by evacuating all the non-Muslim infidels currently living in the Islamic totalitarian world and relocating them to Europe which so desperately wants migrants, and then finally by isolating the Islamic totalitarian world via the imposition of an international quarantine to make it impossible for them to be able to continue to wage jihad against us and until such time as the Muslims themselves eradicate Islam from within their own society on their own.

    Of course, the universal prevailing politically correct narrative that assumes Islam to be a so-called “religion of peace” morally equivalent to all other religions without even one iota of supporting evidence blinds all our political elites and consequently our own federal government. Therefore, the most important obstacle that we must overcome first before we can get our political elites and our governments to act responsibly is to obliterate that unhinged fantasy-based universal prevailing politically correct narrative via the mass public shaming of our political elites.

    As again, Islam is not a so-called “religion of peace” morally equivalent to all other religions, as Islam is responsible for brutally murdering in cold-blood an estimated 270 million non-Muslim people in the preceding 1400 years, and far more than three times the number of people than were killed in all of WWI and WWII combined, in a jihad driven perpetually by the ideological force of Islam and all those that follow that ideological force of Islam, i.e., ALL MUSLIMS IN THE WORLD.

  14. Manuele says

    Sep 16, 2016 at 11:41 pm

    OF COURSE THE POLITICIANS SHOULD KNOW.BUT THERE IS SO MUCH MONEY TO BE MADE FROM THE SELLING OF WEAPONS AND THE ARAB OIL, ESPECIALLY SAUDI ARABIA WHO IS CONTROLLING THE MOVEMENT OF THE TERRORISTS AND ITS ACTIVITIES FINANCIAL SUPPORT. THE PROBLEM IS WITH THE LEADERS OF COUNTRIES OF THE WORLD, THERE IS TOO MUCH ASS KISSING HENCE THE REASON WHY THE LIES HAS BECOMES THE TRUTH AND THE TRUTH HAS MEANT NOTHING TO ANY OF THEM. IF GOD ALMIGHTY INTERVENES MERCILESSLY TOWARDS THE FORKED TONGUES OF THE POLITICIANS, THE POLITICIANS WOULD BE HISSING AROUND LIKE SNAKE ON THEIR BELLIES. THE LEFTIES/LIBERALS AS WELL AS GOD HATERS INCLUDING THE MUSLIMS WHO HATE THE TRUTH SO MUCH ARE ALL IN THE SAME MELTING POT.

  15. MV says

    Sep 17, 2016 at 5:11 am

    It is definitely disappointing to read that people on this website have been scaremongered to an extent that the only belief bore in their minds right now is “Us VS Muslims”. You seem to be on your own, modern Crusade against Muslims, hoping to “eradicate” this religion with means including discrimination, hate, and Islamophobia. It is sad to see that people do not blame atrocities such as the 9/11 attacks on Islamic Terrorism, but instead, hold liable the religion as a whole.

    Many people seem to be denying the fact that hate-crimes against Muslims (and unfortunately also Sikhs) have increased drastically since 2001, but numbers and figures can in fact easily prove, that the Muslim community, particularly in the United States, has faced an increasing amount of discrimination as more politicians use hate-rhetoric against their community. The unfortunate thing here is that events such as the 9/11 attacks, the San Bernardino mass shooting, and the 2016 Orland Nightclub attack are being politicized, polarizing the population even more. Times of remembrance are thus transformed into opportunities to bash and blame Muslims; this, though, will not give and end to terrorism but in fact only provoke extremists and religious fundamentalists even more.

    I do not deny the fact that Islamic terrorism poses a threat to human lives, but countering these zealous ideologies by pushing the blame on moderate Muslims, will certainly NOT put an end to religious terrorism.

    I don’t want to start getting all personal on here, but I’d like to note that people who fervently oppose Islam and express such loathing towards Muslims, scare me more than Muslims themselves – who, just to clarify, do not scare me whatsoever, and many of whom are many friends-.

  16. Pong says

    Sep 17, 2016 at 5:56 am

    Most hate crimes in US and Europe are commited against the jews, not moslems.
    Many so called hate crimes against the moslems are proven to be fake.
    Moderate moslems? Do they have another koran?
    You people (and I use this word loosely) are totaly dishonest. You are the filth of the the earths creatures. Not only you kill innocent children, you celebrate those actions.
    The pictures of twin towers were not the worst on 9.11, the celebrations by “the moderates” around the moslem world were even worse.

  17. Lbartels says

    Sep 17, 2016 at 10:43 am

    I agree that the war against rabid Islam will last at least a generation. In fact, in history, horrific barbarisms commonly took 20-50 years to decline but some like the Roman Empire lasted hundreds of years. I doubt Islam’s resurgence of marauding barbarism will last much longer than 30 years but it could last 50 years beyond 2001. I think the West has dealt with it moderately well and I do not agree that the West is weaker in militaristic terms.
    The West has accepted many refugees from Islamic terrorism and is taking the risks of that largess. The West will undoubtedly be changed some by the assimilation of Islamists but I doubt it will be more than minimally transformative. The foundations of the West are highly intolerant of losing freedoms, which Sharia would demand. Ain’t gonna happen but that does not mean zero struggle with Islam. Some Islamists living in the West will continue to create trouble, some of it murderous, some of it productive of chaos. The vast majority, though, will assimilate.
    I really think that the forces that drive Islam are those rooted in tribalism’s efforts to thin populations to that which is sustainable. How tribalism deals with famine, this time driven by global warming, is to thin the population. The West, by contrast, is fundamentally different than tribalism. The West is based fundamentally on the concept that graciousness builds mankind through cooperative sharing, creativity, and mutual value building. Tribalism is foundationally that survivalism requires eliminating enough competitors so that the residual food value of a region will support the survival of its dominant tribe.
    Tribalism always eventually fades but threats to the food-basics of survival always brings tribalism back. Global warming, I think, is driving tribalism to a frenzy. Beating tribalism back should involve a multi-faceted approach to educating the refugees in secularism, against hatreds, and in favor of secular graces. As grace alleviates the threats to survival in famine-stressed parts of the Middle East and it’s near Asian cultures, tribalism will fade.

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