A culture of violence that brooks no dissent or disagreement, on pain of death, comes to the West.
“Hate crime murder in Toronto: man stabbed to death after arguing about Islam,” by Ilana Shneider, CIJ News, September 13, 2016 (thanks to The Religion of Peace):
Alb Effe, 28, was stabbed to death near York University on September 13, 2016 by 31 year old Alijan Arif Khan after getting into an argument over religion.
Effe – a musician and architectural technology student – was found without vital signs and rushed to Humber River Hospital where he died a couple of hours later. His death marks Toronto’s 50th homicide this year.
Witnesses told CP24 that the stabbing occurred following an argument over religion.
According to Fatah Sandhu who lives in the area and witnessed the altercation, “Some guy has been trying to say that Muslims are bad. The other guy is trying to say you guys are bad,…And last night for some reason, it just got out of hand.”
“And I heard them still out there at like 11 something and I heard one guy say, ‘Oh no, it’s because you’re Arabic,’ and the other guy was like, ‘No, it was not, it was your people,’” Griffith told CTV News Toronto.
Another neighbour said the argument heated up over the English versus Hebrew pronunciations of the name “Benjamin.”
According to Effe’s LinkedIn profile, he played music for 12 years, competed in martial arts in his younger years and won three bronze medals for Canada. He also wanted to “create peaceful and elegant environments promoting self growth and virtue.”
Khan, who is believed to be a student at York University and who apparently knew Effe personally, is facing second-degree murder.
According to the Liberal Party, “there has been a significant increase in recorded Islamophobic acts committed in 2015 that have included harassment, violent attacks, murders, arson, graffiti, property damage and death threats against Muslims.”…
CIJnews could not find any evidence to support the Liberals’ claim that Canadian Muslims were murdered in 2015 in hate crimes. The Peterborough Mosque fire was investigated by Police as a potential hate crime with no clear evidence or suspects to determine the motive of the arson.

Moses says
Wonder what they we’re arguing about?
Myrtle Linder says
Be very careful when disagreeing with a Muslim, it could cost you your life!!.
Cunamarra says
By “careful” I hope you mean:
Be ready by preparing yourself to respond with overwhelming violence against any initiation of force by the aggressor.
Mpho says
Does the world need to live in fear of Islam and it’s Pagan theocracy?
Edge of darkness says
Dhimmitude is the name for being careful around Islam/ Muslims-do not allow yourself to be dominated by this the most unpleasant of doctrines.
Linde Barrera says
RIP Alb Effe. It is very sad that individuals cannot debate or argue without one of them getting killed. In my opinion, it is better to state “Islam is an evil ideology” rathe than state a person is evil. The latter may be true, but the former is definitely true.
gravenimage says
Linde, I’m not sure I’d take a Mohammedan’s claim that the victim was saying “Muslims are bad” at face value.
Jaladhi says
This murderer is facing only “second degree” murder?? Hey Trudeau invite more Muslims to make Canada Islamic paradise(hell hole)!!
George Bacon says
agreed!
More Ham Ed says
Only 2nd deg. murder – they are Oslo wannabees.
Veracious_one says
Muslim probably said Islam is a Religion of peace…..of course he lied…
dumbledoresarmy says
No, he was just using the special Orwellian-style Islamspeak definition of ‘peace’.
have you ever read ‘1984’? If you are familiar with Orwell’s fictional ‘newspeak’ all you have to do is recognise that Islamspeak is very, very similar… and has been on the planet a whole lot longer.
Here (I hope it’s the right link) is an article that appeared here way back in 2006, ten years ago, entitled “Islamic Dictionary For Infidels”. The author is a European essayist, ‘Wolfgang Bruno’.
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2006/07/islamic-dictionary-for-infidels.html
From that article – “Muslims frequently claim, to obscure the realities of the war against non-Muslims, that “Islam means peace.” The word “Islam” does indeed come from the same three-letter Arabic root (s-l-m) as the word “salaam,” peace.
“Islam,” however, means “submission,” not peace.
“Peace” in Islam equals submission to the will of Allah through his divine and eternal law, sharia.
‘The absence of sharia is the absence of peace.
‘Bassam Tibi [Germany-resident MINO – or perhaps closet apostate? – dda] explains:
“First, both sides should acknowledge candidly that although they might use identical terms these mean different things to each of them.
The word ‘peace,’ for example, implies to a Muslim the extension of the Dar al-Islam – or ‘House of Islam’ – to the entire world,” explained Tibi….
‘According to Tibi, the quest of converting the entire world to Islam is an immutable fixture of the Muslim worldview.
Only if this task is accomplished, if the world has become a “Dar al-Islam,” will it also be a “Dar a-Salam,” or a house of peace.”…”.
Baucent says
Is this victim Alb Effe a Jew? Seems like a very amateurish news report. Khan is presumably muslim.
Arthur says
Yes, for labeling the crime a “hate crime”, the ‘journalist’ never stated (at least in this excerpt) who was what. In fact, it is impossible to know whether they were or were not both Muslim from reading the article. Very non-informative.
Crusades Were Right! says
They say that Islam is the Religion of Peace. Nothing is more peaceful that a graveyard. Is that the idea?
Linde Barrera says
To Crusades Were Right- Excellent observation! I love that connection you made. Your comment should be the slogan of the counter-jihad. Brilliant and thank you!
linnte says
The killer Muslim had a knife on him? Go figure! I wonder how long peaceful Canadians will take to wake up?
Angemon says
I’d love to see the Liberal Party explaining the case…
Mirren10 says
I’d bet the explanation would be; ” A peaceful muslim was unbearably provoked by the disrespect given to his religion.” (ie: if you provoke a muslim and he kills you, it’s your own fault for being provocative.)
Kathy Brown, Esq. says
Bingo Mirren!
Oddly enough: That exact same [islamic] ‘rationale’ applies to rape accusations brought by any woman!
At least they’re consistent.
Rolf Wittwer says
Of course: due to “PC” european medias do not report about such “minor” stories…!?
Janeatte says
Muslims have short temper when it comes to religion,he thinks when he kills infidel and protect his damn religion go straight to his virgins ,
When it comes to the mosque fire I am sure that Muslims did it for many reasons,for insurance,for playing the victims to have more sympathy until they getting stronger .
This exactly what happened in Australia the Imam of the mosque broke the door of the mosque and stole what ever he wants,after that he reported that the mosque was attached,and claimed a lot of things stolen, when the police looked at the cameras that they planted without the knowledge of the mosque they fined the Imam did it, the Imam a caused the young Muslims in the mosque.The Australian’s government deported him to his country
Rich says
His last name is spelled “Efe”, not “Effe”as it is incorrectly spelled in the CIJ article. If anyone cares.
gravenimage says
Of course we care, Rich. Newspapers make errors like this all the time. A misspelling is not proof that we do not care about the victim.
In fact, it appears his name is Alp–not Alb–Efe. Here is the article in the Toronto Sun:
“Politics or religious argument led to deadly stabbing?”
http://www.torontosun.com/2016/09/13/stabbing-near-york-university-leaves-one-man-dead
The reason I think this spelling of his name is correct is because I was unable to find any more information about the victim under the other two spellings, but he has a LinkedIn page under Alp Efe, and the photo matches the one in the Toronto Sun.
Megyn Kelly and Pamela Geller both identify the victim as Alp Efe, as well–and refer to the murder as “Eid Jihad”, which is likely quite accurate.
George Bacon says
Knowing Canada very well and the Liberal thought crime courts (HRC) If the victim had survived, they would have charged him with the “hate crime” of rejecting and critiquing Islam.
David Oldham says
When women are not considered equal to men, when people who engage in sexual activities with members of the same sex are considered engaging in criminal act(s) and are subject to death as the remedy what other conclusion to confrontation can one expect except violence. This is not a religion of peace. For some inexplicable reason to me most Canadians, according to their Prime Minister Trudeau, are okay with Muslims and their unique ideology. In 2011 3.2% of Canadians were Muslim a number expected to hit 6.6% by 2031. Eventually as the numbers grow so will the impact on both groups originally identified in this paragraph. Personally although I will not be in Canada I am none the less concerned about the future of non-Muslim Canadians.
Western Canadian says
“For some inexplicable reason to me most Canadians, according to their Prime Minister Trudeau, are okay with Muslims and their unique ideology.”
He is as much of a Western worlds hating POS as his father was, so whatever he says, do a 180 on it, and you will be fine.
Mark A says
I’m sure there will be more of this Canada in future.
KnowThyEnemy says
To kill a person just because you feel insulted by the things s/he says, is atrocious, but then isn’t that the reason why we are trying to keep Islam and Muslims out of our societies.
Having said that, IMO it is improper/uncivil to argue about religious differences on someone’s face or on their social media pages (with the exception of FB users who do pro-Islam propaganda using their own profiles and who we do not know in real life). We should express our differences on proper forums e.g. pages and websites dedicated to that subject (e.g. this one), comment sections in news, public youtube videos, political rallies, religious seminars, and talk-shows, etc.
The number of people who understand the threat posed by Islam is already low, hence we cannot afford to lose counter-jihadis to violent Muslims. We need to stay alive for as long as we can so that we can wake up as many people as we can. Discussing Islam everywhere except on someone’s face (or someone’s Facebook page) is the trick to making that happen.
gravenimage says
Toronto: Muslim stabs non-Muslim to death after argument about Islam
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How many people here have had discussions–and possibly even arguments–about religion? If they were with anyone but Muslims, the chances of their turning violent are slim to none–the chances of their turning *deadly* virtually impossible.
Not so with pious Muslims. In Islam, it is not permitted to say anything against that violent creed.
More:
According to Effe’s LinkedIn profile, he played music for 12 years, competed in martial arts in his younger years and won three bronze medals for Canada. He also wanted to “create peaceful and elegant environments promoting self growth and virtue.”
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In other words, the victim was a peaceful and accomplished Infidel–and more than that, he was a *Jew*. That along with his questioning Islam, of course he had to die.
More:
Khan, who is believed to be a student at York University and who apparently knew Effe personally, is facing second-degree murder.
According to the Liberal Party, “there has been a significant increase in recorded Islamophobic acts committed in 2015 that have included harassment, violent attacks, murders, arson, graffiti, property damage and death threats against Muslims.”…
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That CIJ News would immediately start nattering on about supposed offense against Muslims in an article where a Muslim has just murdered an Infidel is *grotesque*.
Given that the only really serious crimes–murder and arson–are not backed up with any facts, we are left with graffiti and property crimes. Here’s one of these “hate crimes” in Canada:
“Bacon strewn at B.C. mosque prompts hate crime probe”
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/bacon-strewn-at-b-c-mosque-prompts-hate-crime-probe-1.1138187
A spokesperson for the RCMP said of the bacon, “We want to send a clear message that we take this type of activity seriously and it won’t be tolerated in our jurisdiction.”
Please note that there is no record of any member of law enforcement saying anything like that about the brutal murder of Mr. Effe.
Dhimmiwit says
So, two people fighting over who’s religion is the most peaceful and one of them is killed.
I can’t work out who won…
TheContrarian says
In a speech to a group of priests, he said, “I expect to die in bed, my successor will die in prison and his successor will die a martyr in the public square. His successor will pick up the shards of a ruined society and slowly help rebuild civilization, as the church has done so often in human history.” -Cardinal Francis George of Chicago speaking of attacks by secularists of all kinds.
AformerMuslim says
Muslims take a great offense over arguments about Islam and Muhammad.
But we must not be surprised because they are imitating their Prophet. Keep in mind that Muhammad executed those who insulted him or his innovation (Islam).
Many poets and writers were killed under Muhammad’s rule because they penned down something negative about Muhammad and Islam.
A Former Muslim
http://www.aformermuslim.com
John Boston says
I am so impressed by all you murtadin! It must really be Hell getting out of that theocratic ideology of domination (which masquerades as a religion). You people are like heroes to me, simply because you braved death for the sake of truth and freedom. Kafir Akbar!
gravenimage says
Kudos to you for leaving that foul creed, A Former Muslim.
Nabi says
As usual, most Canadian media who bothered to ‘report’ blotted out any reference to Islam, giving everybody a dark chuckle.
Fraser says
Parking attendant assault & congressional library appointee have more news traction than this today in Toronto. The silence is deafening!
John Boston says
So now Islamic terrorist murders are becoming common in Canada. If Clinton wins the election, she will bring in boatloads of Islamic invaders, and the same terrorist attacks will start here.
Oh, wait. We have been attacked many times already, both before and after 9/11/2001, the worst act of terror in history, with 2,997 killed. There was the first attack on the World Trade Center, in 1993, which killed 6 and injured over a thousand. Then of course the Boston Marathon bombing in 2013, which killed 3 and wounded 264. Who can forget the Orlando nightclub massacre just a few months ago, which left 49 dead?
Our demented or devious (I suspect the latter) President Obama may sternly preach, “we are not now, nor ever will be, at war with Islam” all he wants. Obviously, despite his words, Islam is very much at war with us. I say it is time to counter-attack.
Jason P says
It sounds like a case of Infidelophobia.
https://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/articles/infidelophobia.aspx
Skimhit says
Strange that none of the so called news media in Canada are mentioning the perp was a Muslim ? Its like another case I remember when the perps description was 5 foot 8 wearing track pants and a hoodie ?
So politically correct they can’t even report the news anymore. Shameful really.
More Ham Ed says
“And last night for some reason, it just got out of hand.”
By “it” they mean Islam.
“there has been a significant increase in recorded Islamophobic acts committed in 2015 that have included harassment, violent attacks…”
Translation:
“there has been a significant increase in recorded ISLAMO-REALISM acts committed in 2015 that have included harassment, violent attacks…”