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UK spy top dog: Jihad terror “will certainly be with us for our professional lifetime”

Sep 21, 2016 8:30 pm By Robert Spencer

He also said why, albeit not directly. Terrorism, he said, “is fueled by a deepening sectarian divide in the Middle East and there are some deep social, economic and demographic drivers to the phenomenon we know as terrorism.”

A “sectarian divide,” yes, that is true, there is the Sunni/Shi’ite divide, but that doesn’t fuel the jihad against the free world. The only explanation Younger offers for the phenomenon of terrorism are “deep social, economic and demographic drivers.” A religious idea mandating warfare against and subjugation of unbelievers? That isn’t on Alex Younger’s radar screen.

And so he ably answers the question of why terrorism will be “with us for our professional lifetime”: because people such as Alex Younger, whose responsibility it is to protect us from it, have no idea what it stems from or what it is all about. And so they have no idea how to prevent or stop it.

Yet Younger is right: jihad terror will indeed be “with us for our professional lifetime,” because of the massive influx of Muslim migrants, among whom will inevitably be an unknowable number of jihad terrorists, and because the denial and willful ignorance of authorities regarding the motivating ideology of jihad terrorism will continue to allow that ideology to proliferate among Muslim communities in Britain and elsewhere in the West. Jihad terror will be with us for our professional lifetime because of people such as Alex Younger, and their failed analyses that no one dares to admit have failed.

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“Britain’s MI6 spy chief says Islamist terrorist threat is here to stay,” by Guy Faulconbridge, Reuters, September 21, 2016:

The Islamist terrorist threat to the West will endure for years to come because simply taking back territory from Islamic State will not solve the deeper global fractures which have fostered militants, Britain’s foreign intelligence chief has said.

In his first public comments outside Britain, the head of the Secret Intelligence Service said globalization, the information revolution, a deepening sectarian divide in the Middle East and failed states would ensure that terrorism remained a threat.

When asked by the Central Intelligence Agency Director John Brennan at a panel discussion in Washington whether the apex of the Islamist terrorist trajectory had been reached, MI6 chief Alex Younger said: “Regrettably this is an enduring issue which will certainly be with us for our professional lifetime.”

“I would have to forecast that whilst it is wholly desirable to remove territory you will have a persistent threat representing some of the deep fault lines that still exist in our world,” he said….

His remarks were shown on a recording posted on Wednesday by the Center for Cyber and Homeland Security at the George Washington University.

Younger, as chief of MI6, is one of the West’s most powerful spies and rarely speaks in public. He was appointed in 2014 by then Prime Minister David Cameron.

MI6 operates overseas and is tasked with defending Britain and its interests.

Younger said terrorism was fueled by a host of fractures across the world.

“It is fueled by a deepening sectarian divide in the Middle East and there are some deep social, economic and demographic drivers to the phenomenon we know as terrorism,” he said….

An economics graduate and former soldier, Younger has worked for MI6 in Europe, the Middle East and Afghanistan since 1991, according to a short biography released by the government at the time of his appointment as MI6 chief.

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  1. epistemology says

    Sep 21, 2016 at 8:39 pm

    There is only one reason for Islamic terrorism, that’s Islamic supremacy combined with the Muslim hatred for anything non-Muslim. Muslims are a bunch of scumbags.

    • Jack Diamond says

      Sep 22, 2016 at 12:31 am

      Younger should try spying on the Qur’an sometime.

      • Cecilia Ellis says

        Sep 22, 2016 at 1:26 am

        Great comment, Jack! So true.

      • Lion of Judah's Cub says

        Sep 22, 2016 at 8:45 pm

        Terrorism is just a tool to impose sharia law.

        The goal of Islam is to impose sharia law through any means possible: lawfare, terrorism, migration, population explosion, deception, pay for play etc.

        • gravenimage says

          Sep 23, 2016 at 12:06 am

          This is very true. Violent is a major tool, but only one of many.

      • JIMJFOX says

        Sep 23, 2016 at 1:59 pm

        They ALL know. But they’re gutless.
        There’s no believable way they don’t know islam.

        They’re all dhimmis & they know the punishment for breaking the dhimma.
        It scares them shitless.

    • Beagle says

      Sep 22, 2016 at 1:20 am

      Not sure if JW has run this video made by a Finnish woman. In Finland the Muslim immigrants have begun to take up arms and, of course, the government and media blame the indigenous Finns. The usual in other words.

      https://youtu.be/dCskP0JNW5U

      I suspect Calais France will be a full-blown insurgency by the end of 2017.

  2. billybob says

    Sep 21, 2016 at 8:47 pm

    Do you suppose dialog with Muslims could help?

    Controversial sign in Lonsdale leads to visit from CAIR

    It didn’t take long for a sign in Lonsdale that reads “MUSLIMS GET OUT” to require police involvement earlier this week.

    And roughly 24 hours after police responded, the Minnesota chapter of the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR-MN) announced its plans to extend an invitation to the business owner of Treats Family Restaurant in Lonsdale to meet with the Muslim community at the Abubakar As-Saddique Islamic Center in Faribault.

    The visit was cut short by emotion and temper, according to one witness inside the building, as Ruedinger soon became agitated with the men and began shouting about his son’s service in Iraq and how he could not be a part of a “silent community” any longer.

    “It was a short conversation. He did not agree,” said CAIR-MN Executive Director Jaylani Hussein as he spoke with media outlets outside the restaurant Tuesday afternoon. “We are here to talk to people; to start a dialogue. We wanted to talk to him about the sign and about issues.”

    More at…
    http://www.southernminn.com/article_9f8b0229-b806-50a5-b741-8970f91b6638.html

    • Islam the religion of killers says

      Sep 22, 2016 at 12:07 am

      Go Ruedinger, you have a lot of people behind you and you did the right thing …….. 🙂

      “It was a short conversation. He did not agree,” said CAIR-MN Executive Director Jaylani Hussein,
      They say submit, you say get out,

      WE ALL SAY GET OUT …… ( CAIR-MN Executive Director Jaylani Hussein, would you like an explanation )

      GET OUT & TAKE YOUR CHILDREN WITH YOU

    • billybob says

      Sep 22, 2016 at 6:18 am

      I would have welcomed the dialog and used it to show that no matter how “nice” some individual Muslim may be, Muhammad was a terrorist and the Quran is evil and adherents of Islam are not to be trusted because of the commandments of their religion. I would have a list of choice quotes from the Quran like “Muslims are the best of people while infidels are the vilest of creatures” and mention how Muhammad was a pedophile, a rapist, a murderer, etc. Hopefully with the press around to take notes.

      • John Boston says

        Sep 22, 2016 at 5:06 pm

        I agree! Let’s have a dialogue with Muslims, including their best ulema (scholars), and make it public. I have only one question to ask them: when the Prophet Muhammad (sallalahu alaihe wa salam) attacked the caravans coming into Mecca, and killed many civilians (623), was he right in doing so? 🙂

  3. David M says

    Sep 21, 2016 at 10:00 pm

    In the latest poll 49% of Australians want an end to Muslim immigration. The people are waking up, the Islamic leaders are not happy.

    http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/every-2nd-person-the-poll-on-muslim-immigration-that-made-mariam-sick-20160921-grl3ol.html

    • David M says

      Sep 21, 2016 at 10:04 pm

      Hopefully a valid link.

      http://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=6&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwiuqKvP8KHPAhWJNpQKHc1hA0wQFggvMAU&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.smh.com.au%2Ffederal-politics%2Fpolitical-news%2Fhalf-of-all-australians-want-to-ban-muslim-immigration-poll-20160920-grkufa.html&usg=AFQjCNEEH9N6XA8VZQ2s5DO857HZgLQvJA

    • dumbledoresarmy says

      Sep 24, 2016 at 9:14 am

      Yes, I saw that too. Most impressive.

      the thing is, the pollsters ran the poll once and were so nonplussed by the results that they scratched their heads, said, “That CAN’T be right”, and ran it again… and got *exactly* the same result.

      At which, kudos to them, they published it.

      The fascinating thing about it is that it showed there are Islamosavvy folks on the ‘left’ side of politics in Australia as well as on the ‘right’.

      60 percent of coalition voters (the ‘conservative’ parties) wanted a ban on Muslim immigration.

      And 40 percent of Labor and 34 percent of the greens – which means, 4 out of 10 Labor voters and roughly 1/3 of the Greens – *also* wanted a ban on Muslim immigration…. this despite the fact that their political leadership is mostly Islamophile. It occurs to me to wonder whether, after Orlando, after Charlie Hebdo, after the Bataclan, a percentage of ‘progressives’ have done a bit of homework and have realized that people pickled from birth in a belief system simply *rotten* with violent misogyny and gay-hatred are NOT what they want living in the house next door.

      And the other interesting thing is this: it wasn’t 49 “NO” to 51 “Yes”.

      It was 49 “NO” (no more Muslims!), and 40 “Yes – keep on letting in Muslims”, and … 11 percent *undecided*.

      If the Resistance, in Australia, can win over those 11 percent who are currently undecided, we’re home; we’d have 60 percent in favour of banning Muslim immigration. We, not the Islamophiles, have to somehow get the ear of that 11 percent

      So, my fellow Aussie jihadwatchers – we must. not . stop. Don’t give up! The enemy and their befooled and ‘groomed’ (or bought, or threatened) enablers are pouring out a deluge of Islamopuffery at the moment; don’t let that discourage you.

      Just keep on keeping on, trying to educate and awaken those around us. We don’t have to convince every person; we just have to try to make them *curious*, so that they will start looking for themselves. If they have any common decency at all, any commonsense, the Quran and the Sira will fill them with revulsion.

      Try different tacks with different people.

      Discuss Mohammedan gay-hatred, Jew-hatred, dog-hatred, woman-hatred (the wife-beating verse: Surah 4: 34, which has NO parallel anywhere in the Bible, by the way), beer-and-wine-hatred, the sharia ban on arts and music.

      Mention Mohammed’s marital rape of a 9 year old girl and connect it with the ubiquity of child marriage among Muslims in places as far apart geographically and ethnically and linguistically (and in terms of whatever culture;/ belief system/s obtained pre-islam) as Nigeria, Somalia, Yemen, Iran and Afghanistan. Constantly remind people of the apostasy law and blasphemy law – with references – and emphasise that these things influence the real behaviour and real lives of a LOT of people, even within the west, right here and now.

      And here’s the four-word slogan that must be repeated, repeated, repeated, repeated; especiallhy whenever you’re on social media – “Got Muslims? – Got Jihad”.

      It is exactly four words and it is , demonstrably, factually true.

      Post scriptum. In one of the articles that reported on this latest poll and its results, there was reference to an earlier poll, on Aussie attitudes towards Muslims and Islam, that was done in October 2015. The percentages opposed to Muslim immigration have *increased* since that earlier poll was done. In the October poll 28 percent of people were opposed to Muslim immigration. Now, in September 2016, it’s 49 percent opposed – a staggering increase of 21 percent in a little less than a year. But of course, between October 2015 and September 2016 we have had, in the West, the mass-murder at the Bataclan in November 2015, the attack on the Brussels airport in March 2016, the mass murder at the gay club in Orlando, Florida, in June 2016, and the mass murder at Nice on 14 July 2016; and the ‘smaller’ scale’ but highly-symbolic atrocity that was the murder of a French priest by two jihadis, along with the attempted murder of one of his parishioners. And on the Australian front we’ve had the allahu-akbar murders of 1/ Curtis Cheng, in Sydney and 2/ two British Infidel backpackers, in Home Hill, Queensland, Australia. Looks to me like quite a lot of Aussies, observing this and other events, have been putting two and two together and making four.

      You might like to know that Rev Dr Mark Durie has been speaking to packed houses, all over the country, in both secular and religious contexts. Giving information about Islam: what it is really like. All the ugliness, calmly and factually described and explained. Community groups that want him to be their speaker have to book twelve months ahead… he’s that busy. Word is spreading fast.

      • ECAW says

        Sep 24, 2016 at 11:42 am

        Great to hear. Australia is that bit behind the rest of the West in its suicidal folly and is setting an example with its immigration policy.

  4. Peter says

    Sep 21, 2016 at 10:45 pm

    Jihad will be with us for generations because professional idiots like this one ARE NOT DOING THEIR JOB, don’t understand the threat, or are in collusion with those seeking to destroy our ways of life.

    • Michael Copeland says

      Sep 23, 2016 at 4:15 am

      “…and jihad will remain as long there is Islam.”
      Sheikh Saleh Al-Fawzan, professor, imam and eminent Saudi scholar.

      He also said: “Slavery is a part of Islam. Slavery is part of jihad…”

  5. Mark A says

    Sep 21, 2016 at 10:53 pm

    JIhad will be with us as long as there is Islam; it will not be measured in “professional lifetimes” of security officials.

  6. Alex says

    Sep 22, 2016 at 12:25 am

    let’s start with that islam is not a religion. it’s a dangerous, deadly cult and as such should be treated simiarly to Waco, Aum Shinriyko, Branch Davidians and the likes. It promotes violence against, murder of and domination over the “non believers”, while the penalty for those leaving this cult is deadth, including members of own family are obliged to kill an apostate! The fact that it’s followed by 1,5 billion brainwashed does not change these fundamental facts!! The fact that billions of flies eat s**t does not change the fact that it’s still s**t. This oult should be first declared illegal and its preachers investigated and put in jail and/or expelled from the country, while mosques being the nests of this dangerous ideology should be closed! They are a gasoline to this fire and should be kept away from the fire.

    • ECAW says

      Sep 23, 2016 at 2:48 am

      True. And now it’s official, well sort of:

      https://ecawblog.wordpress.com/2016/05/16/islamopathy/

  7. davej says

    Sep 22, 2016 at 12:49 am

    It is IMO quite telling that Muslims feel so superior (against all evidence) and such “the best of people”, yet they are themselves bitterly divided and at each others throats over who is the most Muslim.

    The “Religion of Peace” is not even peaceable among themselves. What a horrible and stupid bunch of cultists they are. The world would be a far better place without them.

  8. ECAW says

    Sep 22, 2016 at 2:13 am

    Probably a silly question but does anyone know why the British hate speech legislation cannot be applied to religious texts? There’s surely enough hate speech spoken every Friday by any Imam who opens a Koran and there is no specific religious exemption in the law that I know of.

    • Gart says

      Sep 22, 2016 at 6:18 am

      It’s a bit like male circumcision ECAW, a little thinking ‘reveals’ it’s plain wrong, the mutilation of genitalia as mandated by a deity that is. Try telling the Jewish/Muslim/Christian community that.
      The old testament is full of evil, the kind of god to be wary of especially when he’s in a good mood. Try taking this important ‘precious’ garbage away from people and you end up hurting them.
      Belief in god, beyond the personal sphere is the problem. Until people accept they are just random collections of atoms, that there is no purpose beyond living for the sake of it we’ll have to put up with it.

      That’s why Alex Younger is correct.

      • gravenimage says

        Sep 23, 2016 at 12:20 am

        Gart, Jews and Christians are not slaughtering people in the name of their faith–Muslims sure are, though. Is this something you’ve missed?

      • citycat says

        Sep 23, 2016 at 7:03 am

        Random is a concept in the mind that is in the collection of atoms that are your vehicle.
        YOU CHOOSE where to drive it.
        I don’t know about God, no one will say, but there’s plenty evidence that
        “something”
        is going on beyond the collection of atoms.
        Easy

    • Mirren10 says

      Sep 22, 2016 at 7:13 am

      ”Probably a silly question but does anyone know why the British hate speech legislation cannot be applied to religious texts?”

      The whole ‘hate speech’ legislation is too amorphous. It can really be applied to anything anyone wants to use to crush a dissenting view. All depends on the pc/mc’ness of the police forces, and judges.

      I found plenty of examples of white Christians, atheists etc arrested for ‘hate speech’, but *no* mohammedans. Only in one case I found were three mohammedans arrested, tried and convicted, for passing out quotes from the koran demanding that gays should be killed. In that case, I imagine it was the *direct threat* involved, and because there was a sensible judge on the bench.

      http://www.legal-project.org/issues/european-hate-speech-laws

      • ECAW says

        Sep 22, 2016 at 8:26 am

        Thanks both.

        I have no religious beliefs Gart but I don’t agree with you. I don’t think our accepting that we are just random collections of atoms would improve matters (far from random btw). Seems to me that most religions tend to improve a fairly primitive species…Islam, Baalism, Scientology, Marxism and multiculturalism excluded.

        If I was to get religion I would be inclined to go for Cao Dai, a newish, made up (sorry, syncretistic) religion from Vietnam:

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caodaism#Cosmology

        What I like is the idea that there are 72 planets between Heaven and Hell and ours is number 68. It explains so much.

        No email arrived Mirren10. Did you send one?

        • Gart says

          Sep 22, 2016 at 6:49 pm

          ‘I don’t think our accepting that we are just random collections of atoms would improve matters (far from random btw). Seems to me that most religions tend to improve a fairly primitive species…Islam, Baalism, Scientology, Marxism and multiculturalism excluded’.

          Evolution is random outcome

          Even Marxism is a method. An order, although I agree with you that it’s bs.

          I think humans could benefit from not being so stuck up their own ass.
          You’re not special (you are really)
          It’s not about you (but I’d like to hear what you have to say)
          It’s true however that you must pick a side.

          I’m a product of western christian culture, I get ya point.

        • ECAW says

          Sep 23, 2016 at 3:45 am

          That’s as far as I’m going about religion in general Gart. I’m here for the Islam, and even then only for the bits that concern me, a kaffir. I cannot get excited about the fact that some people believe that a man flew on a donkey or another man walked on water.

        • Mirren10 says

          Sep 24, 2016 at 9:20 am

          ”No email arrived Mirren10. Did you send one?”

          Hi, ECAW. I copied your email address into my favourites, but somehow, I don’t know how, everything in there got deleted. Could you post it again ?

        • ECAW says

          Sep 24, 2016 at 9:28 am

          How about I email the address you used for comments to make contact…is that ok?

        • Mirren10 says

          Sep 24, 2016 at 9:50 am

          Yes, that’s fine.

    • JIMJFOX says

      Sep 23, 2016 at 1:56 pm

      Simple- “TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH”.

  9. LB says

    Sep 22, 2016 at 3:01 am

    “…He was appointed in 2014 by then Prime Minister David Cameron….”

    Well there’s your problem right there. No wonder he knows nothing of islamic doctrine.

  10. Dustin says

    Sep 22, 2016 at 5:53 am

    If the British people wise up and get rid of the government bringing Moslems into the UK and eject all Moslems then the jihadi terror attacks will stop!

  11. Angemon says

    Sep 22, 2016 at 7:15 am

    Younger said terrorism was fueled by a host of fractures across the world.

    Sure – if you consider ALL terrorism to be connected and a single entity. For example, what do the IRA, ETA or FARC have in common that makes them a single, cogent, entity? Nothing – they’re separate groups, each with their own goals. On that regard, islamic terrorism is a whole different matter. Islamic terrorist groups, whether in China, India, Europe or America, usually have the same goal: make sharia the law of the land. And, as such, they cooperate, even if they are enemies out of principle. Shias hate sunnis, sunnis hate shias, and they all hate ahmadi. And yet, ahmadi are, in a matter of speaking, the gateway drug to islam. Shias and sunnis have cooperated to attack infidels. Why? Because they share a common creed and set of beliefs. It’s not something we see often outside islamic groups.

  12. Dan says

    Sep 22, 2016 at 7:17 am

    We’re idiots.

    They use our rules to undermine our system, yet we won’t use theirs to retaliate.

    Wrap every one we catch, alive or dead, in pig skin, problem solved.

    Use pig skin bean bag shot.

    Pigskin prison suits and restraints.

    Give the police gun belts and shoe made of pigskin.

    Heck make lady’s purses, gloves, and belts and boots and accessories out of pigskin, and they’ll be the safest women on the planet.

    Get with it already.

    • Mirren10 says

      Sep 22, 2016 at 7:37 am

      ”They use our rules to undermine our system, yet we won’t use theirs to retaliate.”

      Lorry drivers in Calais, protecting themselves against scummy ‘migrants’ trying to get onto lorries to get to the UK. Might give you a laugh. 🙂

      https://www.facebook.com/158659504278611/videos/878695665608321/

  13. Praeceptor Maximus says

    Sep 22, 2016 at 9:42 am

    You reap what you sow. The moronic western leaders brought in hordes of Muslim refugees, but instead of integrating them into the western society, they said, ‘Go set up your own little society, keep your language, your religion, make a little version of the country that you left in our land.’ And the Muslims did. So the second generation grows up in the west, but really cannot relate to the west nor to its secular values. How could a man, who sees his mother and sisters all covered up in the Islamic garb, respect a western woman who does not cover up? Muslims are not allowed to intermarry into other faiths. They are not allowed to even share a meal with non-Muslims, because non-Muslims are views as unclean. Islam is not just another religion (?) but an entire culture with its own system of government. Could a communist co-exit with a capitalist? But the arrogant ruling elites, ignorant of Islam, do not want to learn about Islam and understand what it is about. Too steeped in the idea of multiculturalism and political-correctness, they refuse to see the truth that Islam is not compatible with the western values, that it poses an existential threat to the western people. And they are not even moved when their own people get killed. Hundreds died in France, but did Hollande do anything meaningful to combat the Islamic terrorism? Germany will be next. But Merkel won’t budge from her position. Thousands can die and most likely will die, but it won’t move them. Three thousand people died on 9/11, but what did Bush do? Nervous, he ran to the mosque and declared that Islam was a religion of peace. Sure, he did invade Iraq and Afghanistan, but the country that he should have gone after was Saudi Arabia. Fifteen of the hijackers were Saudis and the attack was funded by the Saudis. The fact is that the western leaders, aside from being ignorant, are also corrupt. And the death of their own citizens do not bother them, because most politicians are too psychotic to feel empathy. And most of them aren’t even patriots. Bush supports Hillary. If Bush was a genuine patriot, he would be supporting Trump, an American patriot, standing for Americanism. Trump wants to make America great again; to bring back the glory days. Maybe he can, maybe he can’t, but at least he can make America safe again by curbing the intake of Muslim refugees. Romney showed his true colors when he came on TV, blasting Trump. Romney wouldn’t have made a better president than Obama. He might be a Republican, but then so was Bush. When it comes to Islam, they are all in agreement with Obama. So, yes, terrorism is here to stay, but only if we the people allow it. Our politicians are corrupt. They are drunk on power and money. They bring in the Muslim hordes so they can get their votes and stay in power. We cannot rely on them for our safety. The western world has only one chance to get rid of this evil without bloodshed. America has to vote for Trump so others in Europe grow backbone and vote in the right-wing governments. If this fails, then we are in for untold woes. The rise of vigilantism. But such a rise won’t solve anything. The ruling elites are prepared for this. They have a powerful tool to deal with vigilantism – it is called dictatorship. So, it would not be the rise of vigilantism, but the rise of dictatorships. To control civil unrest, the west will move towards dictatorship, the seeds of which are already being sown. Control of the Internet. If people cannot get information of what is going on, then they cannot raise objections to anything. Control of speech. First it was that no one could say Islamic terrorism in America. Now they cannot say terrorism, not even the word bombing. Militarization of the police. This is already in effect. In a civil unrest, they will have orders to shoot anyone who is a trouble-maker. Vigilantes will be killed and will be demonized. So, the time to act is now while there is still freedom, and not in the future when nothing is for certain but bloodshed.

  14. steve brown says

    Sep 22, 2016 at 5:21 pm

    The only solution is ; internment camps- deportation -followed by nuking.. Then we take all of the oil forever. This is will turn our jihad enemies into the sweetie pies…

    • Praeceptor Maximus says

      Sep 22, 2016 at 9:43 pm

      And who is going to do all that? Obama? Merkel? Hollande? Perhaps May? We have no leader who is willing to do the deporting, let alone everything else. Anyway, nuking is not an answer. If the ME is nuked, then how are we going to take over their oilfields?

  15. citycat says

    Sep 22, 2016 at 11:06 pm

    Someone gotta gun to the head of this MI5 geyser?
    Even English infidel criminals fully understand that Muslims are intent in taking over Engeland, irrespective of what Islam is up to anywhere on Earth, even without reading the Qur’an.
    The more one appeases the Beast the more the Beast devours and grows.

  16. gravenimage says

    Sep 23, 2016 at 12:05 am

    UK spy top dog: Jihad terror “will certainly be with us for our professional lifetime”
    …………………….

    It’s been around for 1400 years now. I doubt this tool realizes this, though.

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