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Washington state: Turkish Muslim, Arcan Cetin, arrested for murder of five people inside Cascade Mall

Sep 24, 2016 10:34 pm By Robert Spencer

The initial reports about this killer said he was “Hispanic.” From the photos of him that were released, that always seemed to be more politically correct wishful thinking than reality.

There is a Facebook page for an Arcan Cetin who lives in Oak Harbor, Washington, where the shooter was apprehended. It says that he is from Adana, Turkey.

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This may not have been jihad. There is nothing on his Facebook page to suggest he was devout, or had had a conversion. If he really called out a woman’s name, maybe it was some kind of psychopathic revenge killing or something of that kind. However, in light of the Islamic jihad attack at a Minnesota mall last week, and the jihadi threat against malls in the West, the possibility that this, too, was a jihad attack cannot be dismissed out of hand.

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“Arcan Cetin :5 Fast Facts You Need to Know,” Heavy, September 24, 2016:

The man accused of killing five people inside a Washington state shopping mall has been named as Arcan Cetin. Around 7 p.m. September 23, a gunman opened fire inside a Macy’s store at the Cascade Mall in Burlington, Washington. Police describe the shooter as “darker complected” with his age estimated in the “late teens or early 20s.” The shooter fled the scene before police arrived and remains at large amid a massive manhunt. The fatal victims have been described as four females — ranking in age from a teenager to a “senior” — and one male. Their exact ages have not been released.

At a press conference Saturday morning, Lt. Chris Cammock of the Mount Vernon police said security footage captured the suspect, at first entering the mall unarmed and later entering the Macy’s store with a weapon, and police will release additional images to the public. Police said they recovered a rifle at the scene but would not disclose additional details of the weapon.

Here’s what we know so far:
1. It Was Reported That the Gunman Made Contact With Police While They Were Searching for Him

Police also released this surveillance photo of the man. One eyewitness, Joe Zavala, spoke to King 5 news. He said he was sitting outside the Macy’s store when he heard about eight or nine gunshots break out. “Then I saw a man pointing a gun and shooting people,” Zavala said to the news station. “And then I got up to look a little closer and he saw me, pointed the gun, and I took off running.” He said he saw victims – including two elderly women – lying on the floor. (Washington State Patrol)

KIRO’s Gary Horcher reported during the search that someone identifying himself as the shooter has contacted police. The shooting began just after 7 p.m. inside one of the Macy’s stores in the mall, reports KOMO. The store’s directory indicates that there are two Macy’s stores in the mall. KIRO’s Maria Guerrero reports that the shooting didn’t take place at the Macy’s home store.

The female victims were shot dead at Macy’s make-up desk. Authorities say that the suspect cased the area before going back out to get a gun. KING 5’s Chris Ingalls reports that the weapon is thought to have been a .22 caliber hunting rifle.
2. The Gunman Allegedly Called Out a Woman’s Name Before Opening Fire

Washington State Patrol Sgt. Mark Francis told the media that he couldn’t comment on reports that the gunman had called out a woman’s name before opening fire, according to Q13 Fox. The gunman was armed with what appeared to be a hunting rifle.

At press conference, Mount Vernon police Lt. Chris Cammock said, “I don’t know what his motivations were. I don’t know what his motivations were to do this. I don’t know what his motivations were to continue. I don’t know what his motivations were to stop.”…

4. The FBI Says No Additional Attacks Are Expected in the Area

In a tweet, the FBI’s Seattle office said they are assisting the investigation and that they have no information “to suggest additional attacks.” ATF officials are also aiding the Washington State Patrol in the search for answers….

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  1. Virginia Coverdale says

    Sep 24, 2016 at 10:55 pm

    I love this site but I think you got the wrong guy here. Look at the picture of the suspect in the mall and this guy. This guy has 20 lbs and 10 years on the kid in the mall. I know it was a Muslim, but not this Muslim. 🙂

    • Robert Spencer says

      Sep 24, 2016 at 11:50 pm

      No, this is the guy. He has lost a lot of weight.

      • Undaunted says

        Sep 25, 2016 at 11:27 am

        There was a picture on the web with CNN background identifying the shooter as a Muslim named Ahmed Muhammad. I mentioned this to Robert yesterday and he didn’t post anything here until there was something solid on which to report. So, I’m sure Robert has done his homework on this and the report is reliable.

  2. Dov Berrol says

    Sep 24, 2016 at 10:59 pm

    Wow….initial reports labelled this Mohammedan as a Hispanic. I guess we need to organize a rally to protest against Hispanophobia. No?

    • DM says

      Sep 24, 2016 at 11:49 pm

      In the EU and England they are described as Asians or simply youths. So expect the media to go thru all sorts of contortions to avoid anything even vaguely related to the ME or islam.

      • Christianblood says

        Sep 25, 2016 at 7:37 am

        I am wondering if this ‘Turkish Muslim’ murderer was aware the fact that USA is a friendly Nato ally of the Turks and that like Saudi Arabia, the Turks have very special friendly relations with the US and that the real foes of the USA, the Turks and Saudi Arabia etc are the Assad regime and the Russians. Maybe he didn’t get the memo from the state department!

        • Christianblood says

          Sep 25, 2016 at 10:30 pm

          A Harris USA

          (..Obama considers the PM of Turkey an ally, I do not!! Obama has a lot of strange “allies”..)

          It is not just Obama but is the US government and most Americans who consider Turkey and Saudi Arabia as allies and Russia as enemies! Very strange indeed!

  3. davej says

    Sep 24, 2016 at 11:01 pm

    Murder at the Mall, again.

    While it immediately sounded Islamic, no jumping to conclusions please. Now we know for sure.

    Retail was already in trouble, this kind of thing won’t help.

    “No additional attacks”? There will be many more until we get serious about deporting all devout Muslims.

    • Budvarakbar says

      Sep 24, 2016 at 11:30 pm

      Wake the hell up — the ‘devout’ is a totally wimping out qualifier — eff them all

      • DM says

        Sep 24, 2016 at 11:57 pm

        You can bet some so called moderate muslim or one of the muslim orgs and no doubt a weak groveling politician will come out to explain away islamic savagery, the excuse is ALWAYS, ALWAYS the same, “the radicals misinterpret islam”. It is so tiresome to hear the same God damned lies over & over & over again.

        • Musalmaanmasala says

          Sep 25, 2016 at 5:33 am

          If There Were No Death Penalty For Apostasy, There Would Be No Islam

          Yusuf al-Qaradawi
          an Egyptian-born fundamentalist cleric and a prominent leader of the Muslim Brotherhood.

        • Christianblood says

          Sep 25, 2016 at 10:21 am

          Musalmaanmasala posted

          (..If There Were No Death Penalty For Apostasy, There Would Be No Islam. Yusuf al-Qaradawi..)

          That is right and yet the US government and their propagandist media demonized and then dumped the longtime ruler of Egypt (Gen. Mubarak) who was a faithful ally of the US while they supported the muslim brotherhood thugs led by mohamed mursi a close disciple of Qaradawi.

    • Michael Copeland says

      Sep 25, 2016 at 4:51 am

      “If you are a practicing muslim you are above the law of the land.”
      Mustafa Carroll,
      CAIR, Dallas.

  4. somehistory says

    Sep 24, 2016 at 11:06 pm

    Targeting women at the makeup counter. And if he called out a “woman’s” name, it could be because he knew one of them, or he could have thought he did, or whoever heard him call out, mistook what he said for a woman’s name.
    And not all people tell in advance what they are going to do. And some tell people they know who don’t come forward until after the shootings.

    It is likely, in my opinion, that he did it because of islam, but this will be denied by those who have a habit of denying that islam is evil, evil, evil. Worse than Crabby Appleton who was “rotten to the core.”

    • Bill says

      Sep 24, 2016 at 11:38 pm

      I would like to know the women’s name he yelled out . I wonder if it was Allie Akbar??

    • Rosewood11 says

      Sep 24, 2016 at 11:45 pm

      Crabby Appleton!!! Oh, my!!! That’s a name I haven’t heard in years!!! Since muslims hate dogs, I think we should set Mighty Manfred, the Wonder Dog on him!!!

      • Musalmaanmasala says

        Sep 25, 2016 at 5:37 am

        Correct me if I am wrong but I have heard that muslims hate dogs because of Mohammed .He hated them for barking and letting all know when he was going from one wife to another in the night.

  5. Barry Donnelly says

    Sep 24, 2016 at 11:21 pm

    Well I’ll start collecting my wager money now ! A new kind of bookie racket , was it a Jihadi or Not ? Big Gamble , kind of like inviting thousands of Muslim Immigrants into your country ! Will they kill us or not ? No Gamble here , The Koran and the Hadith says they will and usually when the Jihadis say they are going to do something nasty , it’s one of the few times they actually tell us the truth !

    • Budvarakbar says

      Sep 24, 2016 at 11:31 pm

      Wasn’t that a really pretty little cuddly snake??

      • Rosewood11 says

        Sep 24, 2016 at 11:48 pm

        Ah!!! Someone has been to a Trump rally!!! Can’t help lovin’ that man–and his poems!!!

    • Westman says

      Sep 24, 2016 at 11:43 pm

      Isn’t it interesting that, these days, no bookie in his right mind would bet against mass shooters being Muslim yet the MSM either misdirects or refuses to say it’s a Muslim until they’re about to get caught in deep bias?

      • Mak says

        Sep 25, 2016 at 11:34 am

        No betting that an attack is Islamic is a loosing proposition for bookies. What my dad and I do is try to pick the next location of some Islamic “mental illness.” That’s much trickier to predict.

        I owed my dad a lunch for the NY/NJ ones.

  6. David Henderson says

    Sep 24, 2016 at 11:21 pm

    Just putting this out there. Witnesses not paying attention to the goings on of the world, may have heard Allahu Akbar, and mistook it for a womans name.

    • Bruce Ramsey says

      Sep 25, 2016 at 3:10 am

      The Liberal media will say he was shouting “hola snackbar” if it turns out he was shouting “Allahuhacbar”.

      • Budvarakbar says

        Sep 25, 2016 at 9:54 am

        Maybe Lulu MacBar

  7. JawsV says

    Sep 24, 2016 at 11:23 pm

    “more politically correct wishful thinking than reality”

    So, the Leftists would rather the shooter be Hispanic than a Muslim?
    I thought it was a Muzzie from the get-go.

    • Didn't Just Fall of a Turnip Truck says

      Sep 25, 2016 at 1:30 am

      Exactly….and by stating “Hispanic”, and not possibly “Hispanic, Turkish, Middle Eastern”….seems to me a way of helping the perpetrator to evade being caught. “Kind of looks like this guy, but he’s not Hispanic”….can’t be him.

    • Kay says

      Sep 25, 2016 at 10:57 am

      We readers knew he was probably Mohammeden.
      But to be fair, I’m hispanic and I know someone who’s been here for decades from Turkey. He looks like he could be my brother.

  8. Norman Moffatt says

    Sep 24, 2016 at 11:28 pm

    FBI crystal ball: The FBI Says No Additional Attacks Are Expected in the Area

  9. Susan says

    Sep 24, 2016 at 11:36 pm

    Simply amazing the lack of information, deliberate withholding or misleading information coming from most news websites on this shooting.

  10. Charles says

    Sep 24, 2016 at 11:46 pm

    Like we didn’t see that coming? We all knew he was Muslim the second they said shooting! Of course I’m now waiting for “Crooked” Hillary to blame this on the rifle rather than the evil Muslim that pulled the trigger. My wife and I will always have a gun in her purse for now on no matter where we go! Mall, theater, etc. I’m completely ready to drop a few Muslims!

  11. Mak says

    Sep 24, 2016 at 11:48 pm

    Well…. I wish I could say I was surprised but…. NOPE…. Hispanic? How did they think he was Hispanic? His skin was dark? That was MSM’s big clue?

  12. Cy Halothrin says

    Sep 24, 2016 at 11:51 pm

    “So, the Leftists would rather the shooter be Hispanic than a Muslim?”

    Well, most Hispanics are Catholics, a branch of Christianity which as any Social Justice Warrior will tell you is an “evil religion,” while Islam is a “good religion.” So yes, from the SJW point of view, it’s much better to blame the Hispanics than to face the inconvenient fact that this is yet another Muslim psychopath committing mass murder just like it instructs in the Koran.

    Of course, it would be even better to blame Israel or Donald Trump.

    • TH says

      Sep 25, 2016 at 1:57 am

      In my opinion, it an insult and an affront to millions of Hispanics who live peacefully in the U.S. and go about their business working and taking care of their families. Besides, it is obvious from the name they gave that he is not Hispanic. It is easy to recognize Spanish names. I live in Spain and when I heard about the attack on the radio, the first thing I thought was that it was another act of Islamic terrorism. Obama and is ilk are in part responsible for these deaths, also the media and academia who ae apologists for Mahommedan savages.

      • Mak says

        Sep 25, 2016 at 3:43 am

        Not a single one of my Hispanic friends were happy about what _EVERYONE_ knew was Islamic terrorism being pinned on them. There was simply no evidence of him being Hispanic whatsoever. The media just couldn’t say he looked like an Arab (I realize Turks don’t consider themselves Arabs) because of cognitive dissonance.

        I think at this point many people want to believe that terrorism is not caused by Muslims. The truth must actually hurt their brains.

  13. Bree says

    Sep 24, 2016 at 11:56 pm

    Guys, little 8,500 population Burlington is 29% Hispanic! This is probably why police thought he was Hispanic! Let’s think of the victims now. The youngest was a Hispanic 16 year old girl, who survived childhood cancer. The Middle East connection and identification is disturbing, but open your hearts to the victims this early, instead of criticism of news outlets.

  14. Isabellathecrusader says

    Sep 24, 2016 at 11:57 pm

    The Red/Green Axis strikes again! The raving Liberals in Seattle wouldn’t want to discriminate against the poor Muslims. So knowing this, the Muslim chose this gun free zone and now there are five less people living in Seattle.

    Way to go brain surgeons!

    • Douglas Rain says

      Sep 25, 2016 at 12:33 am

      I don’t think it was a gun free zone. WA has must-issue carry permits (for now), and I’ve never seen signs prohibiting legal carry in shopping malls here. Also, it was 60 mi north of Seattle, but Seattle itself is known in WA as “80 square miles surrounded by common sense”, so your comment about the city was accurate.

  15. Rob says

    Sep 25, 2016 at 12:03 am

    Now they will come out with both that it has nothing to do with islam and that it was mental illness…or a grievance against racism, islamophonia, etc. Anyone else sick of the lies? Here’s my song ‘NOTHING to do with islam’.

    • Dinosaur Teeth says

      Sep 25, 2016 at 1:33 am

      *Applause*

    • DOLORES says

      Sep 25, 2016 at 8:42 am

      “BRAVO”

  16. Isabellathecrusader says

    Sep 25, 2016 at 12:05 am

    Look, when the Media first heard there was a shooter at another mall they panicked and lied through their teeth. They knew in their heart of hearts that it was a Muslim. They were desperate to change the subject, change the name, change the nationality or religion because with all the attacks in the past couple of weeks, they know PEOPLE ARE GOING TO WAKE UP. Like Bonnie says over at Bare Naked Islam, It’s Not Islamophobia When They Really Are Trying To Kill You. And all we need is for a few hundred American cities to be bombed and there will be enough people (based on Kevin Bacon’s Six Degrees of Separation thing) who are related to or know someone who was directly affected by Islamic terrorism. And then the average American will not be able to pretend this isn’t happening anymore. But they will have to have some dead folks in their lives to make them believe it.

  17. Deanna Christian says

    Sep 25, 2016 at 12:51 am

    One of his Facebook friends called him a terrorist in a post to him.I guess his friends know him better than I do.

  18. Buford says

    Sep 25, 2016 at 12:55 am

    Lone Wolf, Misguided Youth, Mentally disturbed it is funny the high number of these incidents always seem to be of Muslim heritage & Obama & that Psycho Hillary want to flood the US with Hundreds of thousands more of these incestuous Cretins. Who ever plans on voting for Hillary is either blind sighted or outright Stupid.

    • Richard Vert says

      Sep 25, 2016 at 1:41 am

      Or they’re in on the takeover of this great country .

  19. Didn't Just Fall of a Turnip Truck says

    Sep 25, 2016 at 1:18 am

    I knew something was up when there were no comments on the Seattle Times Articles regarding this mall shooting, and no way to post comments. I also new or suspected he wasn’t “Hispanic”…..They think people are idiots. Still can’t post about this on the Seattle Times. Definitely a white wash job by the Seattle Times.

  20. Sarai says

    Sep 25, 2016 at 1:19 am

    WOW…… As soon as I saw his pic I knew he was not Hispanic…. They are here and soon we will be like Europe…. When will Washington wake up? Guys, we need to start carrying our guns to confront these animals.. God help America!!!

  21. Ninsuna says

    Sep 25, 2016 at 1:24 am

    I saw this lowlife’s picture online and thought, “Surprise! He’s a muslim!” Quite awhile later, I saw a Fox news streaming headline claiming he was “Hispanic.” I knew better and, furious, I came here to see if others were seeing this “Hispanic” spin, too. No surprise, yes!

    Media distortions to protect muslims are way beyond the pale. What Orwellian times these are! Trying hard not to lose hope…. I pray for Divine intervention every day. Humans with integrity appear to be losing this insane war on truth, so maybe only God can defeat the lying elites and enlighten their complicit and gullible followers.

  22. Rufolino says

    Sep 25, 2016 at 1:32 am

    Very likely that Obama and his FBI will do everything they can to stop release of any Moslem details until after Monday’s tv debate. (We don’t want Trump to get any unfair advantage, do we ?)

  23. Connie Pabey says

    Sep 25, 2016 at 1:33 am

    As soon as they broadcast his picture I knew he wasn’t Hispanic, not even close. I said he was middle eastern and the media wanted to be politically correct and then hope it wasn’t a Muslim.

  24. Champ says

    Sep 25, 2016 at 1:42 am

    Before his identity was known I knew that he was “Hispanic” …I even told my husband that he looked Arab.

    • Champ says

      Sep 25, 2016 at 1:43 am

      correction: I knew that he was NOT “Hispanic”

    • Lioness says

      Sep 25, 2016 at 10:16 am

      Exactly same words I had. He did not look Hispanic, I knew it’s a muslim in 5 seconds.

      • Champ says

        Sep 25, 2016 at 2:51 pm

        Right! …the MSM can’t fool us anymore.

  25. Mark A says

    Sep 25, 2016 at 1:43 am

    I was wondering whether this shooter in Washington state would turn out to be Muslim.

    Now we have an answer. Thanks for posting this JW.

    Please keep your readers posted on subsequent developments in this story. I haven’t seen anything in the mainstream media about the fact that this shooter was Muslim or whether there is a jihad, sorry, I meant “mental illness,” motivation behind this.

  26. Rose Daniels says

    Sep 25, 2016 at 1:48 am

    His mother Hatice was married in 2010 to a man named David Marshall. David is a veteran. He does not support or like Hillary Clinton. He’s very much an gun loving, supporter of concealed carry. I suspect that this kid didn’t like his step dad very much? Their facebook pages are connected to his, but probably won’t be up for very long.

  27. Gary says

    Sep 25, 2016 at 1:56 am

    In the UK, this story received minimal coverage. This attack on innocent shoppers should have resulted in major headlines. Unless it’s a massive Jihad incident in the West like Paris or 9/11 the media will go to great lengths to down play the seriousness of it and obscure any links to Islam. That’s two recent shopping mall attacks in the US and I fear a sign of regular things to come.

    • aDhimmiSaysWhat? says

      Sep 25, 2016 at 2:02 am

      Wrong. With the massive jihad incidents, the media will STILL go to great lengths to down play and obscure any reference to Islam. Just look at the crap they were saying after the Orlando incident.

  28. Richard Vert says

    Sep 25, 2016 at 1:58 am

    We have a choice to make this November . We either accept from this day on that the looting of our cities and the killing of our citizens is just the “New America” , or we stand and fight with Donald J Trump . Myself , I stand with the thousands of Americans before me that have fought against lawlessness and foreign aggression with my vote . You already know .

  29. Archangel Raphael says

    Sep 25, 2016 at 2:33 am

    Islam (which means “submission”, as in submission to the ideology, or else) is a verifiable death cult. It has been since the beginning, and has depended upon migration and forced domination for its spread. Do the research, there is no cultural assimilation for followers of this ideology. Followers of the Koran are encouraged to be deceitful until the migrating numbers are enough to dominate by force.

  30. linnte says

    Sep 25, 2016 at 2:33 am

    And Christmas is coming. And Black Friday. Oh Lord!

    • Charli Main says

      Sep 25, 2016 at 5:04 am

      And Christmas is coming.

      Wash your mouth out with soap, you vile racist, bigoted Islamophope. How dare you use dirty Muslim upsetting words like ” Christmas” ?

      I am of course being sarcastic, dear linnte . A bit early but Happy Thanksgiving and a Merry Christmas, to you and yours and xxxx the Muslims.

  31. StuartG says

    Sep 25, 2016 at 2:41 am

    The incredibly worrying point here is that the authorities were so scared to indicate the attacker might be a Muslim they deliberately gave a false description to protect Muslims, which of course includes the attacker. That is unforgivable, had he gone to another mall to continue he would not have been identified.

    It is too widespread to be a mistake, which begs the question, just how supportive of the Islamization of the West are our governments? Have they decided to sacrifice their people to support Muslims? It seems so because the accurate identification was essential for the protection of people in the area.

    • linnte says

      Sep 25, 2016 at 10:28 am

      Media are getting their “orders” from somewhere and so are Law Enforcement. So imagine the “confidential” report that comes from Washington to State Governors, in this case Gov Kate Brown; Do not expose the religious stand of the perp or the name of the perp until it’s unavoidable.

      Of course this is deliberate and heinous. Just remember a few short years ago media would have the name and even basic area of residence of a murderer like this blareing all over TV.

      Globalists who need control of the world’s resources need conflict to keep people fearful and divided because a Nation divided cannot stand! The goal is civil unrest and eventually civil WAR so martial law can be initiated. Once that happens, because of the large numbers of NEW Islamists brought in under the pretense of humanitarian crisis, they will have successfully militarised our states law enforcement under the guise of “safety”. People will accept it because they will HAVE to. And the military has bigger guns than we do. Then VIOLA! Instant One World Government. It’s why it’s happening all over the world, all at the same time. It’s why Clinton must win the presidency. She knows the plan and is one of the Elites, so she approves of this message.

      • Phil Copson says

        Sep 25, 2016 at 1:01 pm

        Love that “then VIOLA!” – sadly, we’re more likely to be hearing violins……

  32. Will Richards says

    Sep 25, 2016 at 2:41 am

    I’m with ‘aDhimmiSaysWhat?’ on this. The most sinister and ongoing concern around the whole muslim thing aren’t the ongoing attacks on innocent and unarmed people by entitled, intolerant, and violently deluded muslims, we know that’s their MO…just as we know that too little is being done, particularly by Obama’s administration to even acknowledge the problem, much less address it. No, the most sinister aspect is the role of the media. The media have been doing what they’re now doing over attacks and threats from muslims, with the disproportionate levels of crime and violent attacks on whites from blacks in America, constantly refusing to simply report the truth, and honestly describe the perpetrators and victims. So when did it become the role of the mainstream media to obfuscate and mislead to such an extent, particularly on matters of such significance to the safety and the very lives of the innocent and the law-abiding? When and why did they decide to become the apologists for or protectors of the evil and the violent?

  33. rafihno coentrao says

    Sep 25, 2016 at 2:50 am

    Did he really yelled his ex GF’s name before he started shooting, this is her http://dailyentertainmentnews.com/scandals/arcan-cetins-girlfriend-molly-bridges/

  34. Moonbat says

    Sep 25, 2016 at 2:51 am

    I’ll let you all in on a secret. Burlington is PACKED full of hispanics. Like, for a local to assume this kid was anything but hispanic based of the blurry videos would have been kinda weird… that’s how huge the hispanic population is in Burlington, and it’s sister city Mt. Vernon is. I know this because I lived there. I was even inside this damn mall last December with my kids.

    Also, and this is just me, but if a shooting is going down, I’m not going to stick around and discern what race a person is. Kid looked hispanic and was in a highly hispanic area… no conspiracy or issues with being PC – just people trying to give a description based off of what little they saw and assumptions, given the population in that area. One more time for emphasis… like 30% of the population in Burlington, WA is hispanic, lol.

    • Mak says

      Sep 25, 2016 at 11:44 am

      Assumptions are bad journalism. They could have put “or middle eastern, etc.” because they didn’t know. It’s the fact that they are scared to even mention Islam in connection with this stuff that is bad. If someone is killing innocents at this point “Muslim” is a safe bet and Arab/ME is a pretty safe bet too.

      Why did the speculation not even consider Islamic terrorism?

  35. Susan says

    Sep 25, 2016 at 3:03 am

    Honor killing jihad by muslim reported as Hispanic calling out woman’s name. Why? So they can keep pumping the USA full of people who misuse firearms as a culture, so much so that eventually they will have us begging to take away their /our gun rights. We are screwed without rewinding this whole muslim communist propaganda BS- we need Trump in the White House. I don’t care if you do not like his personality, because the only issue you should be worried about is muslim tyranny and muslim misuse of firearms and keeping them OUT of the USA as a culture, because they are only being used to destroy us and our way of life, and peace and freedom as we know it.

  36. Rufolino says

    Sep 25, 2016 at 3:13 am

    This man was most certainly mentally ill, his attack most certainly had nothing to do with Islam, and what he shouted was (most certainly), “All use the snackbars !!!”

    • Charli Main says

      Sep 25, 2016 at 5:10 am

      Of course, he is mentally ill. He is a Muslim.

      Only mentally ill, nut jobs would believe that a mass murdering, child raping, sex slave owning, cross dressing homosexual, liar, thief and necrophile was the most perfect man that ever lived.

  37. Denise Ward says

    Sep 25, 2016 at 3:38 am

    Why does a Muslim have to be “radicalized” before they call him a terrorist ? He goes to a public place guns down five people and , because he isn’t going to be considered “radicalized ” he isn’t going to be a terrorist . He’s a Muslim and committed an act of terror—how simple can it be ? Political correctness is really a curse.

  38. tgusa says

    Sep 25, 2016 at 3:41 am

    At first the enemedia labeled the shooter as Hispanic. Now we are seeing the enemedia casting the blame on every other ethnic group in America. Domestic terrorists, that is what the enemedia are.

  39. Patricia says

    Sep 25, 2016 at 3:49 am

    This man sounds like he was struggling with mental illness and may have been in a state of psychosis. Auditory voices can be part of psychosis and can tell a person to harm themselves and others. A person can also hear evil voices at times too in a psychosis state. It was stated in another report that when he was arrested – he was in a zombie like state of mind. Also, using marajuana and alcohol In a psychosis state can be like putting kerosine in your body. He was advised to stay away from these drugs.

    • Michael says

      Sep 26, 2016 at 8:36 pm

      What does this have to do with anything? The man is a known moslem. Therefore he should be on a watch list. Any hint of jihadi thinking on social media needs to get him arrested. Any hint of weapons procurement gets him arrested. Any ties whatever to any jihadi suspects in a global database gets him arrested. Any attendance at a mosque preaching any treasonous activity gets him arrested and the mosque loses zoning permit and is shut down.
      This is war now. A strange war without honor to be sure. But, war none the less. All talk of psychology is of no import. Psycho-babel is going to get us all killed or enslaved. It is time to talk frankly about ideology, culture clash, and open warfare.

  40. tgusa says

    Sep 25, 2016 at 3:53 am

    I have no idea what the enemdia is planning and to what end. I have no idea.

  41. H says

    Sep 25, 2016 at 3:57 am

    Is the media going to apologize for racially slurred labeling of Hispanics? I saw his long darnn nose in the blurry pic and knew immediately it was a freaking terrorist.

    He called out Allah Akbar….The media is really disrespecting the seriousness of these attacks..you kill an empire by thousands of cuts… Increase the costs of doing business, divert resources, increase prices instill fear and over extended security forces…Clinton bush didn’t take terrorism seriously..U.s.S Cole, Khabarovsk tours, wtc1, African embassies, marine barracks,

  42. dan says

    Sep 25, 2016 at 3:58 am

    When they mentioned he was Hispanic and I saw the photo I thought their lying AGAIN.
    They think we’re stupid ? Yes they do !!! Why are they protecting EVIL ?
    How many Hispanic’s shoot up a bunch of people? There must have been one in 50 year’s ?
    How many people that are from the middle east shoot up a bunch of people,the answer is
    a LOT !!! They tried to BS us again,well it didn’t work did it ?

  43. Chuck Wood says

    Sep 25, 2016 at 4:34 am

    I noticed that no one is screaming about the rifle this time, why is that. Is it maybe because it could turn out to be a 22 cal. rifle or semi automatic. The president or Hillary have not jumped in on this.

  44. Mary says

    Sep 25, 2016 at 4:38 am

    How sad that our nation has come to this.
    How tragic for the family.

    https://refugeeresettlementwatch.wordpress.com/
    Yes, Hillary and Obama we are a nation of immigrants buy NO stories were passed down by my grandparents about mass murderers coming over on the boats to kill the citizens here for an ideology.

    Mr Spencer we have a mutual Archamandrite friend….Fr B in VA…..He told me to say hi.

  45. jim mayer says

    Sep 25, 2016 at 5:06 am

    A Muslim. What a shock. Muslims kill other people? The MSM just screamed,”DARN IT!!” in unison. They were rooting for a Latino murderer. As a bonus, he shared on twitter whom we know Muslims want for Prez, HRC. So, let’s see now…
    The Nice Attack Was by a Muslim
    The Paris Attacks were by Muslims
    The Shoe Bomber Was By a Muslim
    The Fort Hood Shooter was a Muslim
    The Underwear Bomber was a Muslim
    The U.SS Cole Bombers were Muslims
    The Madrid train bombers were Muslims
    The Charlie Hebdo attacks were Muslims
    The San Bernadino Attacks were Muslims
    The Bali Nightclub Bombers were Muslims
    The Davao Philippines Attack Were Muslim
    The Orlando Night Club Attack was Muslim
    The Minnesota Mall stabbings was a Muslim
    The London Subway Bombers were Muslims
    The Moscow Theatre attackers were Muslims
    The Boston Marathon Bombers were Muslims
    The Beheading of French priest was a Muslim
    The AnkaraAirportTurkey Attack were Muslims
    The Washington Beltway Snipers were Muslim
    The Pan-Am Flight #93 Bombers were Muslims
    The Iranian Embassy Take Over were- Muslims
    The AirFrance Entebbe Hijackers were Muslims
    The BattaMeena Pakistan Attacks were Muslims
    The Beirut U.S Embassy bombers were Muslims
    The Libyan U.S Embassy Attack was by Muslims
    The Buenos Aires suicide bombers were Muslims
    The Israeli Olympic Team Attackers were Muslims
    The Kenyan U.S Embassy Bombers were Muslims
    The Saudi, Khobar Towers Bombers were Muslims
    The Beirut Marine Barracks bombers were Muslims
    The Besian Russian School attackers were Muslims
    The 2 Bombings in New York, New Jersey – Muslims
    The First World Trade Center bombers were Muslims
    The Brussels Airport Suicice Bombings were Muslims
    The Beheading of journalist Daniel Pearl was Muslims
    The Achille Lauro Cruise Ship Hijackers were Muslims
    The Bombay & Mumbai Indian Attackers were Muslims
    The Narcissist ColinKaepernick & girl friend are Muslims
    The WashingtonStateMall Shooting Murders was Muslim
    The Sept 11, 2001,19Arab Airline Hijackers were Muslims
    The Beheadings, stabbings, burnings, drownings- Muslims
    The Pirates Off Barbary Coast in Jefferson’s time – Muslims
    The Daily Inhumane acts by the Religion of peace – Muslims
    (A Small Accounting of contributions to humanity by Muslims)

    People who live & let live without slaughtering one another:
    Hindus living with Jews = No Problem
    Sikhs living with Hindus = No Problem
    Baha’is Living with Jews = No Problem
    Jews Living with Atheists = No Problem
    Hindus living with Baha’is = No Problem
    Christians living with Jews = No Problem
    Jews Living with Buddhists = No Problem
    Buddhists Living with Sikhs = No Problem
    Shintos Living With Atheists = No Problem
    Hindus living with Christians = No Problem
    Buddhists Living with Hindus = No Problem
    Baha’is Living with Christians = No Problem
    Christians Living with Shintos = No Problem
    Buddhists Living With Shintos = No Problem
    Atheists Lving With Buddhists = No Problem
    Confusians Living with Hindus = No Problem
    Confucians Living with Baha’is = No Problem
    Shintos Lving With Confucians = No Problem
    Atheists Living with Confucians = No Problem

    Where the Poop Always Hits the Fan:
    Muslims living with Jews = Problem
    Muslims living with Sikhs = Problem
    Muslims living with Hindus =Problem
    Muslims living with Baha’is = Problem
    Muslims living with Shintos = Problem
    Muslims living with Atheists = Problem
    Muslims living with Christians = Problem
    Muslims living with Buddhists = Problem
    Muslims living with other Muslims=Problem

    Muslim Orgs accepting applications for new members:
    ISIS: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
    Ansaru AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
    Hamas: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
    Taliban: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
    Al-Badr : AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
    Al-Nusra: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
    Al-Qaeda: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
    Hezbollah: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
    AbuSayyaf: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
    BokoHaram: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
    Islamic Jihad: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
    LashkareTaiba AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
    JemaahIslamiya AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
    PalestineLiberOrg AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
    MuslimBrotherhood AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
    AbdullahAzzamBrigs AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION

    Watch out for WHITE SUPREMACY TERROR ORGANIZATIONS!
    .

    • jim mayer says

      Sep 25, 2016 at 5:08 am

      Some additional interesting news:
      STUNNING FACTS!!!
      Black People are doing the bidding of a White Man & don’t even know it.
      Re: Charlotte, With George Soros’ Dirty Fingerprints All Over It.
      There’s a Black President
      There’s a Black Congressman
      There’s a Black Chief Of Police
      There’s a Black District Attorney
      There’s a Black Mayor until 2014 (Jailed)
      There’s a Black Officer Who Pulled A Trigger
      There’s a Black Man Dead of that Gunshot Wound
      There’s a Black Man that’s angry on TV I Just heard say that:
      There’s a Black future for Whites coming ’cause they are all devils
      There’s a Black Man from the 1960’s who’d denounce all the violence

      Police: 70% arrested are out-of-staters. The ‘outrage’ was largely manufactured. People were reportedly bussed in to riot, which explains the speed & intensity in which the mob overwhelmed CPD. DCLeaks revealed GeorgeSoros is funding BLM among many other hostile orgs to “dismantle & recast” America more to his vision.

      By the way –
      His birthname ‘Schwartz’ means ‘Black’ in German, & was changed to Soros.
      How do Blacks like gettin’ owned by this old, rich, white European Prick?

      Personally, I’m wondering when George Soros’ long vacation will come.
      Until he goes on that vacation, Blacks & Whites will keep going on theirs.
      .

      • DOLORES says

        Sep 25, 2016 at 8:44 am

        Why would anyone in their right mind vote for H . Amazingly there are so many STUPID people who are allowed to vote. God Bless Donald Trump.

      • linnte says

        Sep 25, 2016 at 10:33 am

        His son is ready to step up to the plate. No worries there.

      • Kay says

        Sep 25, 2016 at 11:05 am

        Outrageous! 70% from out of state?

        Not unlike the imported burkini incident.

        So our right to assemble is being used against us also.

  46. Paleologos says

    Sep 25, 2016 at 5:56 am

    We really need to deport all muslims now before it’s too late.

    muslims are absorbing the West like the Borg.

    There is no other way.

    Porky Pig knew a long time ago. …

    https://youtu.be/qrwKmXu7Gvk

    R/

    Paleologos

  47. Chuck Shoomer says

    Sep 25, 2016 at 7:16 am

    Correction: It was a .22 caliber hunting ASSAULT MACHINE GUN WEAPON OF MASS KILLING!

  48. Dov Berrol says

    Sep 25, 2016 at 7:33 am

    It is time for North America’s shopping malls and night clubs and airports and train stations to introduce Israeli-style security measures. Every person entering these places must be fully checked by a security guard – with Muslims getting extra screening. Disney theme parks already do this since September 11.

    North American

    • GunnyGene says

      Sep 25, 2016 at 10:41 am

      So you’re one of those who wants somebody else to protect your butt? Good luck with that.

  49. William Jansen says

    Sep 25, 2016 at 7:48 am

    Any evidence/strong indicators for your claim that he is Muslim?

    • Undaunted says

      Sep 25, 2016 at 4:14 pm

      Occam meet razor?

  50. IQ al Rassooli says

    Sep 25, 2016 at 7:53 am

    Can Muslims be Loyal Citizens?

    I would like you all to understand that every single believing or fundamentalist Muhammadan Muslim must follow the two pillars that are the foundations of Sharia: Muhammad’s Quran and Muhammad’s Sunna.

    That Sharia is utterly incompatible with all human freedoms and dignities and hence must never be allowed to take root in any of our democracies is a reality.

    Every Single Muslim (male or female) is a potential Mass Murderer the instant he or she decides that he or she is not fully Islamic (Sharia compliant) and instantly they become “Borne Again Muslims” and go on JIHAD!

    The following is a list of questions that each and everyone of you outside the land of Islam (in the territory of the Infidel/ Kuffar peoples) should ask yourselves and your ‘nice’ Muslim neighbor if any believing Muslims in the land of the Unbelievers be good, law abiding, integrated and loyal citizens in our countries?

    Theologically – NO. . . Because Muslims submit only to Allah. As you well know by now, Allah is originally only the name of the supreme god of Pagan Arabia among 360 other stone deities- and hence most definitely not the same as the God of Jesus, Moses or Abraham.

    Religiously – NO. . . Because no other religion is accepted under Sharia except Islam (Submission to Allah).

    Al Imran 3: 85 “If anyone desires a religion other than Islam (submission to Allah) never will it be accepted of him…”

    Scripturally – NO. . . Because the Muslim’s allegiance is to Sharia based upon Muhammad’s Quran and Sunna.

    Textually – NO … Because Muhammad’s Quran and Sunna are Hatemongering, Warmongering, Misogynist, Racist & hence most definitely UNGODLY.
    Geographically – NO. . . Because Muslims bow in reverence to Mecca in Arabia, to which they turn in prayer five times a day.

    Socially – NO. . . Because the Muslims’ devotion to Islam forbids them from ever making true friends with Christians or Jews ~

    Al Mai’da 5: 51 “O ye who believe! take not the Jews [Yahood] and the Christians [Nasara] for your friends and protectors: they are but friends and protectors to each other. And he amongst you that turns to them (for friendship) is of them…”

    Al Tauba 9: 29 “Fight [qatiloo] those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His apostle nor acknowledge the religion of truth [ISLAM] (even if they are) of the People of the Book [Christians & Jews] until they pay the Jizya [onerous Poll Tax] with willing submission and feel themselves humiliated”

    Loyally – NO … Because Muslims’ allegiance is primarily to ALL other Muslims all over the globe.
    Al Mumtahana 60: 1 “O ye who believe! take not My enemies and yours [Christians, Jews, Buddhists, Hindus, etc] as friends (or protectors) …
    Ishaq:231 “Muslims are one ummah (community) to the exclusion of all men. Believers are friends of one another to the exclusion of all outsiders.”

    Politically – No. . . Because Muslims must take instructions from their mullahs (spiritual Leaders), who teach them equal opportunity HATRED for ALL those who are not followers of Muhammad

    (currently 80% of humanity called Ummat al Kuffar/ Nation of Infidels comprising all Christians, Buddhists, Hindus, Zoroasterians, Jews, Animists, Agnostics, Atheists, Pagans, etc) .

    Al Anfal 8: 55 “ For the worst of beasts in the sight of Allah are those who reject Him: They will not believe”

    Al Fath 48: 13 “And if any believe not in Allah and His Apostle We have prepared for those who reject Allah a Blazing Fire!

    Domestically – No. . . Because Muslims are instructed by Muhammad’s Quran to marry up to four women and beat and scourge their wives when they disobey them

    Al Nisaa 4:34 “Men are the protectors and maintainers of women because Allah has given the one more (strength) than the other and because they support them from their means. … As to those women on whose part ye fear disloyalty and ill-conduct admonish them; refuse to share their beds; beat them …”
    Legally – No. . . Because Muslims cannot accept the American & European Constitution as binding since they are not from Allah as well as they believe that the Bible has been corrupted and hence is now ungodly.

    Culturally- NO… Because Muslims belong to a culture that prefers Death than Life.

    Ibrahim 14: 3 “Those who love the life of this world more than the Hereafter who hinder (men) from the Path of Allah and seek therein something crooked: they are astray by a long distance”

    Constitutionally – No. . . Because Sharia is the nemesis of Democracy; it does not allow for freedoms of religion, expression or belief.

    Democracy and Islam is an oxymoron; a state of affairs that cannot possibly co-exist. Every Muslim government in the world is dictatorial, autocratic or theocratic.
    Spiritually – No. . . Because the Judeo- Christian tradition believes in a loving fatherly God while Allah is NEVER referred to as Heavenly father, nor is he ever called love in the Quran’s 99 excellent attributes.
    Therefore, after much study, contemplation and deliberation, Europeans and Americans should be very suspicious of ALL MUSLIMS in their midst especially all organizations that call themselves Islamic.

    They obviously cannot be both ‘good’ Muslims and loyal Europeans or Americans.

    Call these shocking revelations or whatever you will, but these are the FACTS based entirely in chapter and verse upon the Muslim scripture.

    IQ al Rassooli
    Kafir & Proud!

    • David says

      Sep 25, 2016 at 9:20 am

      Thank You!
      This is exactly what I’ve been trying to teach our fellow Christians and all Citizens for about 40 years!!!!!

  51. dumbledoresarmy says

    Sep 25, 2016 at 8:13 am

    Something else worth noting.

    This attack took place on a *Friday*, around 7 pm in the evening.

    The cops should as a matter of course be checking every mosque within a 20 km radius of this location.

    Any reporter – and any cop – worth their salt should right now be trying to find out whether this Turkish Muslim ‘immigrant’ (had he taken out citizenship yet, or is he on a residency visa?) has attended any mosque, or mosques, anywhere in the USA since he got out of the plane a year ago. Which mosques/ Where? (Of course, any mosque he attended will rush to throw him under the bus; they will all be ‘shocked, shocked!”; they will pretend they never even realized he was there, etc, etc; all such claims should not be taken at face value).

    Further note.
    This man was a Muslim immigrant from overwhelmingly-Muslim Turkey.

    If, say, from October 2001 onward, a total ban on all entry into America of persons holding passports from majority-Muslim OIC-member countries (excepting *only* persons who on thorough investigation could be shown to be members of the oppressed-and-abused minority non-Muslim communities who still survive in some of those countries), this man would not have been let into the USA in the first place.
    And five people would be alive, who now are dead.

    • dumbledoresarmy says

      Sep 25, 2016 at 8:14 am

      Correction:” If, say, from October 2001 onward, the USA had instituted and maintained a total ban on all entry into America of persons holding passports from majority-Muslim OIC-member countries (excepting *only* persons who on thorough investigation could be shown to be members of the oppressed-and-abused minority non-Muslim communities who still survive in some of those countries), this man would not have been let into the USA in the first place.”

      • Dov Berrol says

        Sep 25, 2016 at 8:55 am

        Hear, hear. Well articulated. Trump, are you hearing us?

    • Jack Diamond says

      Sep 25, 2016 at 12:05 pm

      His step father was Navy and stationed in Turkey where he met and married his mom. The step father returned to the USA (Oak Harbor, WA) and it took a year to get mom and young son visas to come here too. So, he got here through his mother marrying an American and is probably a naturalized citizen. He went to Oak Harbor High School, class of 2015.

      While I was looking into local mosques I came across this puff piece on Islam, the reporter regurgitating da’wah and taqiyya about the oh-so-wonderful introduction of Muslims into Whidbey Island culture. From the Whidbey News-Times from 2003, alas all-too typical still in 2016:

      “Leah Jaswal calls herself an “average white girl” who happened to fall in love with and marry a Muslim man from Pakistan when they were both 18. She decided about 15 years ago, after several years of marriage, to convert to Islam.

      Imam Joban noted that although Islam is one of the fastest growing religion in the United States, Islam does not “recruit” followers.

      “We don’t force Islam on others,” he said. “There are no Muslim missionaries.” Instead, Joban gave examples of people who wanted to learn about Islam, and ended up embracing it. He also told of a man who wanted to bomb a mosque, but was invited inside, and was so moved by the warm welcome that he converted.

      The Islamic cleric said Muslims and Christians worship the same God, and that the Islamic holy book, the Quran, in an extension of the Bible.

      “They are the same teachings,” Joban said. “Mohammed (the Islamic prophet and founder of Islam) was sent for all mankind.”

      Fozia Tahir, from Pakistan, wanted to dispel some of the misinformation about women and Islam.

      She said the Quran treats women and men as equals, and doesn’t force women to wear veils, hijabs (head scarves) or burkas, the full body-covering robes. Instead, clothing preference is cultural, or the choice of the couple.

      “Islam doesn’t force you to wear a veil,” she said.

      She explained the purpose of covering the female body is to protect women from prying eyes and unwanted advances.

      “A woman is like a pearl,” she said. “Her treasures are precious and hidden.”
      ” http://www.whidbeynewstimes.com/news/22102989.html

      • Jack Diamond says

        Sep 25, 2016 at 2:54 pm

        He is a “legal permanent resident” and as the NY Daily News reports, had “a history of mental health problems.” Look no further.

  52. quota raven says

    Sep 25, 2016 at 8:39 am

    I heard on Fox radio news last night this killer was yet another muslim. But this morning, nothing further. Suspect it will be dropped from the MSM. What a world, eh?

    Cheers!

    quota raven

  53. duh swani says

    Sep 25, 2016 at 8:39 am

    ‘Hispanic’…The MSM indulges itself in racism…hypocrites…
    It’s an amazing thing how fast the authorities rule out terrorism…

  54. AnneCrockett says

    Sep 25, 2016 at 8:40 am

    Apparently “Hispanic” is the new “Asian”.

  55. David says

    Sep 25, 2016 at 9:06 am

    NOT a jihad attack? ????
    Just another Satanicly inspired muslim?
    Humm. Is there really any difference between the two ?????
    That guy on the AM RADIO is right. Internment Camps for anyone suspected of being in this country for ANY CRIMINAL PURPOSE.

  56. S MANTY says

    Sep 25, 2016 at 9:09 am

    This type of activity will increase if Clinton is elected. Please STOP THE INSANITY –vote for TRUMP 2016

  57. COL-Ret Tom Murray, U.S.A. (MP) says

    Sep 25, 2016 at 9:27 am

    For the love of God please stop the insanity by the politically correct liberal left establishment and the “biased media”. To say the media strives to be unbiased is obscene. The media are willing partners and enablers of the liberal left establishment. The latest horrendous tragedy that has changed the lives of the victims north of Seattle and their families forever is but another in a continuing national disgrace. More will follow undoubtedly. The disenfranchised, the delusional and marginally mentally corrupt and unstable mindset that seems to justify the shooters rational in the taking of innocent lives. Now comes the professional agitators to include the President and his fellow travelers and his minions to further inflame an already horrific incident to satisfy their own agenda(s). Yet we continue to have a President who steadfastly refuses to identify and acknowledge the radical Jihadist terror threat that only emboldens these evil individuals. Now we are being asked to vote for Clinton who will only continue the ruinous policies and agenda(s) of the sitting President or as I refer to it as Obama 2.0 should she be elected. A brief comment regarding Clinton because it is relevant to my comments: Clinton’s Masters thesis at Wellesley was focused on Saul Alinsky’s most famous book, the 1971 Rules for Radicals: A Pragmatic Primer for Realistic Radicals, includes a dedication to “the first radical known to man who rebelled against the establishment and did it so effectively that he at least won his own kingdom — Lucifer. Clinton will revert to her default position that the conservatives are lying about her record and actions as they did about the email scandal. The written record of her pathetic and equally dangerous agenda and colossal failures is a black and white fact in the written word. “Please stop the madness!

  58. Jaladhi says

    Sep 25, 2016 at 9:30 am

    Simple, all of them are terrorists!! In their mind they are not treerorits, they are simply carrying out that demon Mo/allah’s imaginary orders!

    It was obvious fro the TV photos he was not Hispanic and the beard told the story he was a Muslim!1

  59. Sunny says

    Sep 25, 2016 at 10:02 am

    Our DISHONEST media is such a joke ,we the People knew it would be a Muslim even though they said Hispanic .Oh Gee lets see, he is Muslim and he kills 5 women.What will they call it since we know how the media hates to say Jihad,maybe they will call it recreational murder, like when the Muslim guy beheaded a woman where he worked and they called it Workplace violence, REALLY? They think we are a bunch of idiots but no one believes anything our government says anymore as they are following in our presidents habits of lying every time they open their mouths.

  60. Florida Jim says

    Sep 25, 2016 at 10:52 am

    It is best to let the facts develop and then make a judgment.

  61. JCD1974 says

    Sep 25, 2016 at 11:04 am

    And with the revelation that the shooter is a muslim immigrant the media will lose all interest and the story will disappear.

  62. Ashley says

    Sep 25, 2016 at 11:05 am

    This is still a raw, fluid investigation.

    I’m not convinced that Cetin was targeting his ex, Molly Bridges. She had left Macy’s in April, 2015. She wasn’t in the store at the time of the shooting.

    http://heavy.com/news/2016/09/molly-bridges-5-fast-facts-you-need-to-know/

    What I find most curious is that Cetin appears to enter the mall without a firearm, yet within minutes produces the rifle and proceeds to gun down five people. Could this have been an “inside job?”

    Here’s hoping we learn more in the days to come. But right now this sounds like a typical act of jihad…

    • Budvarakbar says

      Sep 25, 2016 at 11:18 am

      He supposedly went back out and got the rifle from his car!

      • Ashley says

        Sep 25, 2016 at 11:37 am

        Interesting that there is no surveillance camera still of Cetin exiting the mall and returning with the rifle.

        ISIS put a call out to attack malls. Did this mall not have security???

        • Undaunted says

          Sep 25, 2016 at 12:43 pm

          No mall has security. Even if they have people wandering around in uniforms with patches sewn-on that say “Security” no malls have security. And, even if a mall has a police sub-station ~ usually nothing more than a storefront operation where cops write their reports and sip Orange Julius ~ malls do not have security. I’ve done multiple assessments on multiple malls run by different companies and found all of the security operations to be woefully lacking in every important discipline. There are a few STRAC security officers out there but they’re kept on a tight leash and threatened with legal action if they act beyond the scope of the “training” provided by their employer.

          An example: a large security company (Allied Universal) is proud of their Active Shooter Response training, which I reviewed in a professional capacity a couple months ago. I got their training slides from one of their senior training managers. In the training, AU officers are directed that in any ASR, local law enforcement officers will respond “IMMEDIATELY” to the scene of the shooting so all they (AU officers) have to do is drive up to the exterior of the shooting site, set-up an incident command post so when the AU “leadership” arrives they all have somewhere to tap-dance. At that point, all AU will do is wait at the door for the “immediate” response of local LEO and open the door for you if you’re running outside from the shooter(s) inside. Let me be clear: Though AU officers are trained and armed with Glock .40’s, they will not enter the building to find and engage any shooter(s) because the rules of engagement set down in corporate training policy is just that: Wait outside for the “immediate” arrival of local cops and help those fleeing the building to get away from the building.

          Feel safe now?

          The point is that YOU have to be STRAC. You cannot depend on anyone but yourself in these situations. Trained and experienced in this discipline, I study and write about this all the time so I know exactly what I’m talking about.

          STRAC: Strong Tough Ready, Around the Clock.

          http://freemendo.typepad.com/undaunted/2016/01/told-you-so.html

  63. Ronen says

    Sep 25, 2016 at 11:29 am

    I would like to commend Mr. Spencer for his prudent approach, never jumping to conclusions. Islamic terror acts are only too common anyway; therefore we need not damage our credibility and our cause by reporting what is currently uncertain facts.

    • Undaunted says

      Sep 25, 2016 at 12:45 pm

      Absolutely.

  64. ensitue says

    Sep 25, 2016 at 11:29 am

    Lets not forget the Inbreeding factor which can reduce an offspring’s IQ by as much as 14 points which is well within the criminal behavior zone on the IQ bell curve!

  65. abad says

    Sep 25, 2016 at 11:39 am

    OK so maybe people from Washington state are not the sharpest pencils in the box.

    As for C(r)etin, he should be deported all the way back to Ankara where he belongs.

    • linnte says

      Sep 25, 2016 at 6:03 pm

      FOX news reports he has a Green Card, but they didn’t say CITIZEN.

  66. Robert DuPaul says

    Sep 25, 2016 at 11:53 am

    Added this site to my bookmarks! Can’t trust the main stream press to just to report the facts anymore! they do anything they can to avoid implying that a Muslim is capable of doing anything of this nature and will blame anyone else they can think of first!

  67. Eric says

    Sep 25, 2016 at 1:48 pm

    As far as I know the name of that guy who blew up that Swiss train and went on a stabbing spree has never been revealed, or should I say stays carefully concealed. The media were very careful to say he was a “Swiss citizen” – His rampage followed on the heels of about 5 of these incidents in like a week in Germany. https://news.vice.com/article/suspect-and-victim-die-after-knife-attack-on-swiss-train – Anybody know his name yet? Interesting that not a single witness on that train has leaked a word of what he looked like (oops! profiling!) on social media or the internet.

  68. Xero_G says

    Sep 25, 2016 at 1:48 pm

    Did someone in the MSM see the shooter wearing a Sombrero?

  69. Samy says

    Sep 25, 2016 at 4:49 pm

    This is another reason why you people must vote for Trump!!

  70. THX1138 says

    Sep 25, 2016 at 4:54 pm

    Knew the minute I saw the News Alert that it would be Muslim Filth behind the attack.

  71. Jon Hammond says

    Sep 25, 2016 at 5:03 pm

    I (and many others with common sense) knew instantly that this bastard was a Muslim (and NOT Hispanic as the moronic Leftist MSM claimed), particularly since he primarily targeted women (4 women and 1 man; all shot dead) which is in keeping with Islam and Sharia law which treat women like property thanks to Mohammed believing that a woman was worth only half a man, etc.

  72. Andy Halmay says

    Sep 25, 2016 at 5:10 pm

    This is reminiscent of the Ecole Polytechnique Massacre in Montreal in 1989 by Marc Lepine who shot 18 women and killed 14 saying he was fighting feminism. His French Canadian mother had married an abusive Algerian who despised women. Originally named Gamil Ghyarbi, the father left them and the boy later changed his name but seemed to have inherited the Muslim attitude toward women. The Turk’s killing of 5 near Seattle would probably relate to a similar motivation – he shouted one girl’s name and the other three were unfortunate to be nearby. Muslims have problems with women and particularly outside Muslim countries where women have not been pressured into being submissive. This would not be categorized as a terrorist act by authorities but the entire Muslim culture is one of terrorism and cannot blend with civilization. If we wish to live in peace in our own country we have only one option and that is what I call the Queen Isabella Solution – throw them all out and allow no Muslim immigrants. Take possession of all mosques and auction them off. Give Muslim citizens an option to renounce their political ideology (Islam) or leave the country.

  73. Mark Berlinger says

    Sep 25, 2016 at 5:24 pm

    Surprised? Not me.

    Later authorities will reveal something that they knew almost immediately — Arcan Cetin, the killer of five people at the Cascade Mall, is a Muslim.

    Then we get another lecture from Obama, a police chief, several enemedia talking heads, and Arcan Cetin’s imam about how peaceful Muslims are, Islamophobia and the possibility of backlash against Muslim immigrants that never happens.

    And if you are wondering why dangerous unvetted people are allowed into our country, you need not look any farther than the shooter’s Twitter account…

    @ArcanCetin: “We win I vote for Hillary Clinton!”

    • AmPat says

      Sep 26, 2016 at 10:01 am

      http://heavy.com/news/2016/09/arcan-cetin-cascade-mall-burlington-washington-shooting-suspect-shooter-name/

      Learn the facts before making an ass of yourselves.

  74. Schrödinger says

    Sep 25, 2016 at 6:37 pm

    Jihad @ Macy’s Beauty Parlour, because, in the eyes of a muslim jihadi terrorist, you’re worth it.

  75. VeryTiredOfPolicitalCorrectness says

    Sep 25, 2016 at 7:44 pm

    My first thought was that this is was another Muslim killing “infidels.”

    WHY did the mainstream media feel compelled to mention that it might be an Hispanic? How many Hispanics have been running around killing innocent people? Answer: None that I’ve heard about. They could have just said it was a young man with a dark-ish complexion, etc., and not African-American. I would like to apologize to all law-abiding Hispanics on behalf of my fellow non-Hispanic Americans.

    Anyone who votes for HRC or for any other Democrat who supports letting wholesale numbers of un-vetted “refugees” into this country, is an IDIOT.

    Donald Trump, at least, recognizes the Jihadist Trojan horse we’re bringing into our midst.

  76. Denise Ward says

    Sep 25, 2016 at 10:47 pm

    This is for YOU Mr. Spencer :

    In my last comment I asked why a Muslim has to be considered “radicalized ” or “Radical ” before they will call him a terrorist . Think about it –the media will not concede he is a terrorist because there are “no signs of terrorism” , or radicalization. You know how they always put it : “there is no evidence of terrorism ” .

    This man Arcan Cetin , committed an act of terror. So I guess he just HAPPENS to be a Muslim.

    I think a lot of people what to know the answer to my question.

    What do you think, Mr. Spencer ?

  77. Paul Clark says

    Sep 26, 2016 at 1:08 am

    Maybe it was a white guy with dark hair and a tan. The liberals, Hillary, and Obama was hoping it to be. Champ is right, it was obvious that he was not Hispanic. Is this another Obama narrative? How many times can he and his liberal friends blame others for what his Muslim brothers have done?

  78. Al Pollard says

    Sep 26, 2016 at 10:18 pm

    Need to check for connection or ideology from another direction: Turkish nationalist terror organization: the Gray Wolves (one of their adherents tried to kill Pope John Paul II). The Gray Wolves, contrary to what people may think, still functions, and Turkish nationalists are resentful of America.

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