“If the woman continues in a rebellion only then you are allowed to punish her, not that at every little thing you slap her or you pick up the stick…”
Would Trudeau meet with any other leader of any kind who said such a thing? Of course not. But when it comes to Islam, even the Ahmadiyya, who are considered heretics and violently persecuted by Sunni Muslims in Pakistan and Indonesia, all is, as always and in every case, forgiven.
“Trudeau meets with religious leader who legalizes wife beating under certain conditions,” by Jonathan D. Halevi, CIJ News, October 18, 2016:
Prime Minister Justin Trudeau met on Monday, October 17, 2016, with the Caliph, the Supreme religious leader, of the Ahmadiyya Muslim Community, Hazrat Mirza Masroor Ahmad. “It was a pleasure to meet with the Caliph of the Ahmadiyya Muslim Community,” Trudeau Tweeted.
It was a pleasure to meet with the Caliph of the Ahmadiyya Muslim Community, Hazrat Mirza Masroor Ahmad, today in Ottawa. #CaliphInCanada pic.twitter.com/errTelGbmb
— Justin Trudeau (@JustinTrudeau) October 17, 2016
Ahmadiyya is an Islamic religious movement founded in Punjab, British India, near the end of the 19th century. It originated with the life and teachings of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad (1835–1908), who claimed to be the promised Messiah and Mahdi awaited by Muslims. The mainstream Muslim groups argue that Ahmadiyya does not represent Islam and regard its believers as apostates.
Caliph of Ahmadiyya on wife beating
In a Friday sermon in 2004 dealing with the “Relationship of Husband and Wife”, the Caliph, the Supreme religious leader, of the Ahmadiyya Muslim Community, Hazrat Mirza Masroor Ahmad, said among other things the following (originally in Urdu):
“The responsibility of the man… [the husband] as the supervisor [and] the head of the family, it is the responsibility of the man that he has to keep an eye on the environment that is being cultivated in the house. He has to fulfill the rights of the wife and the rights of the children… Only then he will be earn the status of being the head of the family…
“When the punishments are mentioned [in the Quran] it is conditional. There are conditions when they are fulfilled only then those punishments will be allowed and then would be very seldom a woman amongst the Ahmadis who would deserve that punishment.
“So instead of making excuses men should try to fulfill their responsibilities as said in the holy Quran [Chapter Name:An-Nisa, Verse No:34]:
الرِّجَالُ قَوَّامُونَ عَلَى النِّسَاء بِمَا فَضَّلَ اللّهُ بَعْضَهُمْ عَلَى بَعْضٍ وَبِمَا أَنفَقُواْ مِنْ أَمْوَالِهِمْ فَالصَّالِحَاتُ قَانِتَاتٌ حَافِظَاتٌ لِّلْغَيْبِ بِمَا حَفِظَ اللّهُ وَاللاَّتِي تَخَافُونَ نُشُوزَهُنَّ فَعِظُوهُنَّ وَاهْجُرُوهُنَّ فِي الْمَضَاجِعِ وَاضْرِبُوهُنَّ فَإِنْ أَطَعْنَكُمْ فَلاَ تَبْغُواْ عَلَيْهِنَّ سَبِيلاً إِنَّ اللّهَ كَانَ عَلِيًّا كَبِيرًا {34
“[Men are the protectors and maintainers of women, because Allah has made one of them to excel the other, and because they spend (to support them) from their means. Therefore the righteous women are devoutly obedient (to Allah and to their husbands), and guard in the husband’s absence what Allah orders them to guard (e.g. their chastity, their husband’s property, etc.). As to those women on whose part you see ill-conduct, admonish them (first), (next), refuse to share their beds, (and last) beat them (lightly, if it is useful), but if they return to obedience, seek not against them means (of annoyance). Surely, Allah is Ever Most High, Most Great.]
“In that verse of the holy Quran Allah Almighty says men have been made supervisors upon women…
“The pious women are obedient. They safeguard what Allah has admonish them to safeguard.
“And for those women from whom you fear that they are rebellious then reprimand them… Allah Almighty says, first admonish them and then leave them alone in their beds and then if it continues then you can punish them.
“But if they turn to obedience then do not look for excuses against them…
“Allah Almighty says that if woman rectifies her behaviour then do not look for excuses to punish her…
“If the woman continues in a rebellion only then you are allowed to punish her, not that at every little thing you slap her or you pick up the stick…”…

Angemon says
Coincidentally – or not – this bit of info is often overlooked in news articles that make the Ahmadi look as the poster-boys of “moderate” islam.
gravenimage says
True, Angemon. Just because they are violently targeted by their more orthodox coreligionists *does not* mean they are really “moderate” of peaceful.
Anne Smith says
The poor little Scottish Muslim shop keeper who was brutally murdered by a Muslim from Yorkshire was an Ahamadiyya. He was murdered for being too friendly to his customers, (most of whom were not and for wishing them a Happy Easter..
What a pitiless, hostile and unpleasant religion is Islam.
Anne Smith says
Meant to say “most of whom were not Muslim”
Wellington says
“What a pitiless, hostile and unpleasant religion is Islam.”
Yes it is, even when the Ahmadiyya sect tries promoting it, which is to say advancing a kissy-face, huggy-bear Islam. (Yuck!)
Thus proving, once again, you can’t put lipstick on a pig and get away with calling her Miss America. (The pork analogy here I take an extra delight in proffering for obvious reasons.)
There is no good Islam. One knows this or should know it. Getting exceedingly tired of those who don’t. Such people have no true arguments, only excuses masquerading as arguments. Quite fitting, though, since Islam itself is one giant-ass excuse and masquerade of a religion.
Bradthefuzz says
Trudeau gave himself over to the demon deity Allah when he prayed the shahada. God help Canada. Jesus is Lord.
Ahmadi says
Dear Robert Spencer if you read the text of sermon he is basically advising men not to find excuses to beat women rather take care of them. He is preaching against domestic violence. But you are hell bent to demonize any one who does not share your version of a violent Islam. Being a part of the community I can tell you that violence against women is strongly condemned.
By spreading misunderstanding about Islam you make others hate it, their hate marginalizes Muslims further and makes them feel persecuted and becomes the basis of their radicalization at the hands of politically motivated scholars.
And by the way one of the strongest reasons Ahmadi Muslims are persecuted is their stance on Jihad. Ahmadies believe strongly in freedom of conscience and consider any form of violence and waging war in the name of religion to be absolutely wrong. They campaign against blasphemy laws and female genital mutilation. They believe in democracy and equality and obedience of laws of any country to be a part of Islam. In their 120 years history you cannot ascribe a single act of religious violence against them
So perhaps you should have also mentioned this in your article too if you were honest as a reason for Treadau to meet them along with their communal services in Canada.
Remember you are not marginalizing Muslims you are marginalizing humans (1.5 billion of them)
Treadau on the other hand wants to show that canada is all inclusive whatever their beliefs are if they are willing to abide the law because at the end of they are humans
Long live Humanity! Love for all hatred for none
Jay Boo says
Just wait until the world finds out about “The Good Islam”
1400 years of despicable Muhammad cannot be recycled and regurgitated into a new and improved wish of IZ.
Jay Boo says
Trudeau pays homage to the scaly shed skin of the Serpent of Satan but the putrid Serpent has long slithered beneath feet of infidels and the stench of Islam’s manure call Islam’s holy book of hate to all of humanity and against even a sliver of common human decency.
Shariah matthews says
Preach it
Athea Marcos Amir says
Hmmm. Sounds like Trudeau is about as sharp on Islam as are our politicos in the U.S.A. Another example of the Stockholm Syndrome, huh?
Anne Smith says
Perhaps he wants a few tips on ;improving his own home life?
BLC says
Trudeau calls himself “a feminist”, yet he meets with a man who espouses beating women.
Makes you wonder where all the radical feminists where when this meeting was going on. Not even one little protest going on.
Of course, Trudeau, who is filthy rich himself, must have been eyeing the Caliph’s wallet rather than his practices. A love-in of the rich and famous.
Justin Trudeau, so above the little people he governs to actually care about them or what they want.
Say the shahada one more time, Justin. You know you want to.
ninetyninepct says
Perfect. Thanks.
Karen says
The Feminists know when to shut up, like when Slick Willie is having a bimbo eruption, or when Ted K was feeling frisky. They are just one facet of a coalition of mutual back-scratching partners (Leftists, Islamists, media, et al.); they will seize power by any means necessary, even at the expense of their sacred honor.
Islamic Fascist Political Death Cult says
The title of the article should read, “Beauty and the Beast.” Look at this Imam he looks like a savage, looks like a tribesman from the Saudi Peninsula, need I say more?
Grace says
Where’s the “Beauty”??
Dan says
America.
Many Canadians have been waiting a long time to say this, and we finally can.
In terms of “Useless dork leaders of the country”?
We’re Number One!
We’re Number One!
(Insert heavy sigh.)
My, God, we us got a low bar up here.
gravenimage says
We’ve still got Obama, Dan. I’m not sure I’d want to race Canada to the bottom.
By the way, I envied you when Stephen Harper was PM. Not perfect in his knowledge of the Jihad threat, but by today’s standards pretty damn solid.
Dan says
Yeah, we miss him big time.
Knew he was good simply because EVERY business owner I knew said, “Well I don’t know how he’s affecting anybody else, but he ain’t affecting my business.”
If that’s pretty much what everybody’s saying, then it sounds like as close to a perfect government as you’d want.
Plus he stood by Bibi and told Russia off a few times.
If you look around you’ll find a video of Trudope at a town hall meeting actually saying, “You know, in a way you have to admire China, because as a dictatorship, they can get things done.”
Not a direct quote, but it’s entirely accurate in context.
Grace says
Harper also shunned the useless UN! He wasn’t perfect, but miles ahead of what we have now!!
Toxick1 says
The Chinese got it right when they nick-named trudeau “The little potato”. He is a really stupid person.
Dan says
You will not get any disagreement from me.
In fact, more appropriate might be, he wants to be a DICK-tater.
Infidel from Down Under says
Trudeau is such a jerk he almost makes Hillary look good.
Note, I said ‘almost
Lynne says
Nobody can make Hillary look good but he is a disgrace to Canada. Too many people are still in love with Trudeau but I notice people are starting to see him in a new light and not a positive one.
Wellington says
The advocating of wife-beating by a Muslim, whether by a screwed-up Ahhadiyya guy, or by a screwed-up Sunni guy, or by a screwed-up Shiite guy (hmm, I detect a pattern here), takes a distant second place respecting possible excoriation to a non-Muslim, who, Allah forbid, would dare to say anything critical about Islam.
Count on it. And count on a good, subservient dhimmi like Trudeau to validate again and again what I have just asserted.
gravenimage says
Spot on, Wellington.
gravenimage says
Canada: Trudeau meets with Muslim leader who allows for wife-beating
…………………………
*Ugh*. More pandering to Muslim barbarism by the clueless Justin Trudeau.
Notice, also–this Muslim leader is Ahmadi. Lots of people–even many savvy Anti-Jihadists–believe that Ahmadis are entirely peaceful Muslims. More proof that this is not so.
octaneman says
One of the main duties as prime minister is on occasion you have to act like one. Having a photo op with hard core religious groups like Ahmadiyya even though they are not mainstream Islam, is “politically” a necessary evil no matter how distasteful it is to anyone with a rational mind. Trudeau has to show the face that Canada is an all inclusive country. Everyone has their reservations on the definition of faith and how people should treat one another especially women. If one chooses to look a careful study of the bible shows that the gospels treat women as property not people, so its a catch 22 when faced with a religion like Ahmadiyya. Pundits may state that Trudeau is alienating his political base, but somehow it has all the appearance of a strategic political move to rattle a few cages. To what end? No one knows.. But if he is trying to achieve a public relations coup, it sure as hell is a carefully planned one.
Dave de la Rond says
Trudeau and his Bubble head wife live in one big Bubble .So far Canada has taken in 40 .000 Syrians , That has nothing to do with the 2 million Muslims that have already entered Canada .2/3 of these Muslims are solid Canadian citizens who are getting Welfare, involved in violent crime and want to end our way of life , dreaming of sharia law ,Canadian dummies
medaber_emet says
I am really feeing sorry about all the good canadian that will suffer under islam
they accapted islam into their country and preaty soon they will have to live like dihimmis in their own country
only problem is that there is no place left in the world to escape islam and live in democracy because also USA and Australia will be in similar situation
I sure hope that good christian ameriacans will start a war to save america
since Hitlery and obama will fake the results of the election and she will open USA to massive islamic immigration
same process will take place in Australia
i dont need to mention Eurebia
and how says Pat Condell
Peace
tgusa says
Take a good look at that picture. Do these western fools have any idea how ridiculously stupid they appear to the everyday westerner? The importation of islamic culture in to western nations will eventually lead to civil war. Take names, keep a list.
tgusa says
If western leftists believe what they say they believe they must push their islamic friends to accept their very un-islamic lifestyles. We see them meet with islamic leaders but we never hear them ask questions that would be pertinent. Such as, what is your view on women’s rights? Answer that and then we can go on to other important topics. But we never hear anything from our side, except, how much money can we give you, from our Benedict Arnold western political class.
Robert DuPaul says
It is amazing how in general very liberal people embrace the Islamic refugees when some of these refugees would see it as a duty to kill their own child for deciding to change their religion
Harry ko says
It is almost impossible to believe the stupidity of our so called western leaders ,
but after all , ,Justin ,Barack an all. Civil war is coming !!!
billybob says
Imagine you belong to some organization or club where you are often socializing, or even at work. You encounter a broad spectrum of humanity, and as you get to know people, you get closer to them – but not all of them. There are some who you will begin to perceive don’t seem to share your values. Like, there was one who made some off colour comment about the women there. There was another who said something about “Jews” that made you uneasy. There was another who always drank too much and seemed he could easily turn aggressive. The was another who made some remark about blacks. All these, you just back away. Even if you are not absolutely certain of their position, you don’t have time for them as there are plenty who clearly seem to have good values. And so we navigate our social lives, if we are not fools, avoiding aggressive people and trouble makers, racists and misogynists, the dishonest and the criminally inclined as we find other like minded individuals.
When we look at Islam, we instinctively recoil, even as we realize that we cannot judge “the set of all Muslims” by it. Some of course will be uninformed. Others will choose the benign parts as if Islam were a smorgasbord and add some good values they found elsewhere and have projected upon it and end up decent folk. Others will be Muslim in name only, Islam being more of a cultural label rather than personal religion. Finally, there will be many, especially more educated types who could be compared to “lapsed Catholics” or who are completely agnostic to their religion. But as kindly as we would want to consider the issues, we know there must be millions upon millions who uphold Islamic ‘values’ to one degree or another, these so called values such as mentioned in this article – misogyny in this case, or much worse, up to and including the jihadist monsters of this world, their financiers, supporters and fans. These are people we rather avoid. These are people with whom it would be ill advised to get involved with. A man like Trudeau should know that!
I consider the irony sometimes when I see some Muslim apologist “community leader” on TV railing against “Islamophobia”. They will suggest there should be more outreach. They will say things like mosques should open up more often to the community, hold open house events and let the community get to know them. They will state there should be more cultural fairs where Muslims can display their wares and people can get to know them. They imply that if we get to know them, we will find there are folk like any other. They will say all this and never once address the real issue – their core beliefs as a group, founded in dreaded Islam – as if that was somehow not relevant. As if it were a religion like any other. As if that was not the cause of “Islamophobia”. As if “Islamophobia” was just some kind of condition brought about by ignorance of how wonderful Muslim people are if only we would take the initiative to get to know them.
Fortunately, I am not Islamophobic. I often find myself in broad social circles where Muslims are included. At my job, working as a professional, their must by upwards of a thousand other professionals from all over the world in a highly multicultural workplace. We all work together as a team. Though there are no Muslims in my department (AFAIK), I do see hijabed women around, but I don’t know any of these. As a matter of fact, I avoid them. As I said, I am not Islamophobic, but I have a genuine fear of Islam. I know enough about it thanks to people like Robert Spencer and many others that I feel it would be prudent to avoid Muslims whenever possible.
If I were, say, a leader of the country, I would take care about who I am seen talking to on camera. I would not want to be seen casually chatting with racists and misogynists, the dishonest and the criminally inclined. That would do no good for my public image.
Andy Halmay says
President Trump should hire Robert Spencer as consultant in creating legislation to ban the preaching of and practice of Islam in America. The Koran itself is all the proof needed to banish this political ideology and call for terrorism. Muslims who are American citizens should be given the option to reject this faith or to be under constant observation as child molesters are. Non-citizen Muslims should be given the option to reject the religion or be deported. All mosques should be confiscated and closed.
As for Trudeau – he’ll be a one-term prime minister. His father was a nasty leftist who cost Canada a great deal of money. His mother had mental problems which, obviously, Justin has inherited. Muslim pitchmen got to him and charmed him. Sophomoric Canadian voters brought him in by a hair and like his father he is damaging the country at an accelerated pace.
Lioness says
At least his father Pierre Trudeau was not stupid. Yes he was a leftist, but a charming intellectual with flair. Justin is an idiot. He has the looks of his mother and the brains of his mother, none of his father’s intellect. But at the moment it doesn’t look like there is an effective opposition, unless a strong leader emerges in the Conservative party, I am hoping for Brad Wall of Sask., eventually.
Justin should just officialy convert to islam and be done with it. He goes to mosques more than he attends church, and probably never set foot in a synagogue, as he despises Jews.
ninetyninepct says
It is clear that he wants to drag Canada down to the level of Sharia jihadists under the control of his favorite terrorist mosques.
Porky The Crusader says
Totally True! Turdeau is the worst piece of Shit ever. No offence intended to the Shit because i know that the Shit sometimes can be usefull.
David says
Why is Canada meeting with this NAZI leader ? $$$$$$$$$ MONEY can be the only reason.
It’s that massive Saudi teat again!
That teat must be clipped down tight. And eventually dried up completely.
Untill that day comes there will always be corrupt “leaders” eager to be suckling from it!
Florida Jim says
Taqiyya allows muslims to lie to everyone to promote Islam. Fools think otherwise.
mortimer says
Unlikely Headlines:
-Justin meets with supremacist KKK chief who counsels beating women and other races.
-Justin meets with Baptist leader convicted of wife-beating
-Justin meets with Hindu leader convicted of wife-beating who says Untouchables are second-class
Realistic Headline:
-Justin meets with Muslim world-conquest supremacists who counsel wife-beating, FGM, child marriage, stoning, hand-chopping, flogging, beheading, head-tax on disbelievers and second-class status for all non-Muslims.
ninetyninepct says
Why is trudeau constantly sucking up to Islam? What a grovelling POS. It is becoming more and more evident that he favors Islam and is likely being controlled more each day by Sharia jihadists.
Will he be handing Sophie over to some imam to get her clitoris removed or will an imam do a house call? Does he demand she wear a burka when not in public? Follow this link and get scared, really scared. Trudeau plans to make Canada a Muslim hell hole, to take Canada back to the middle ages. We already have Sharia compliant police forces, including the RCMP which used to be respected around the world. The same RCMP that abuses women.
http://tsecnetwork.ca/2015/10/11/civilization-jihad-the-niqab-and-the-liberal-party-of-canada/
Carmel says
Nabeel Qureshi , once, ask an iman how come Muhammad punch his preferred wife Aicha on the chest . The Iman answered him that « after all it was a holy punch so….». It is on Biola University videos on YT. With such a logic ….
gravenimage says
*Ugh*. Thanks for that information, Carmel.
Lynne says
I am a Canadian female senior. I love my country but can’t stand the sight of Trudeau. My blood pressure goes up every time I see him. A feminist. He’s really dumb and doesn’t know it’s meaning. If he did, he wouldn’t ‘t be bragging about being in a mosque on September. His female staff had to go in the back door and sit away from the men. Nothing was done to commemorate 9/11 or the two soldiers who were killed by terrorists. He is a sorry excuse for a human being.
Porky The Crusader says
Right Lyne, 100% Right!
westcoastjohnny says
Trudeau’s idiocy with respect to Islam ultimately cost two Canadian hostages in the Philippines their lives. His thinking was (and is) that the terrorists are not true muslims, just run-of-the-mill criminals. Therefore no ransom should be paid.
But they ARE true muslims, trying to live according to Islamic law, which gives them the option demanding a ransom. If Trudeau had paid, the chances are overwhelming the hostages would have been released. The proof of this is that there were two other hostages at the same time held by the same terrorists, a Norwegian and a Philippina, and both of them were released.
Trudeau is an Islamophilic moron.
Eric Jones says
People in Canada may want to remember that PM Harper, along with Pres. Bush and Pres. Vicente Fox of Mexico tried to force the North Amreican Union on all of us. Ending the independence of Canada , USA and Mexico.
Getting to the point of this article: Why are not the feminist howling against Islam for allowing wife beating. Their silence is deafning. As far back as 1971 I thought the feminist movement was fraudulent and hypocritical. History has proven me right.
Eric
Dave says
Trudeau looks like a total buffoon because that’s what he is. Its amazing Canadians are stupid enough to vote a guy like that into office, but then again Americans are about to put the vile Hillary Clinton in office.