What do French authorities think this situation will look like in five years? Ten? Why are they continuing to import large numbers of Muslim migrants, among whom will be an unknown number of jihadis?
“French terror police say 15,000 Islamic radicals including 2,000 CHILDREN on watch list,” by Siobhan McFadyen, Express, October 9, 2016:
POLICE in France say almost 2,000 children are on a watch list of more than 15,000 Islamic radicals in the country.
And worryingly they say they pose a threat to the wider community following terror attacks that have wreaked havoc across the Republic.
According to the Sunday newspaper Le JDD, the youngest of the 1,954 children on the list is just 11 years old.
French authorities began tracking people on a database in March of 2015 following the Charlie Hebdo attacks and shootings at a kosher market in January of that year that killed 17 people.
However that did not prevent the subsequent co-ordinated attacks in Paris in November of last year which killed 130 or the horrifying slaughter of 86 people at the Bastille day celebrations in Nice in July.
There has been a total of 21 terror attacks across the country since December 2014 sparking widespread anger and a backlash against French president Francois Hollande.
Now special forces are said to believe that at least 4,000 of these individuals pose a significant threat to society and are being tracked on a daily basis by the Directorate of Internal Security….

Moses says
SOLUTION: Bring in more refugees.I’m sure that will solve the problem ( sarcasm )
Joe says
Bingo. Particular Muslims. And never do a Muslim ban! Muslims are holy cows. Was that with the cow racist?
Charli Main says
No–no–no its not the Muslims. Muslims are NOT TO BLAME. ITS ALL THE FAULT OF ISLAM
Remember, don’t hate Muslims, hate Islam ( sarcasm, of course )
CrossWare says
Also with demographic changes soon they only have to watch a handful of Christian natives (until they beaten to death by the peaceful majority). This is how the (Shariah) “law” in the Islamic Republic of France will work.
J D S says
Tracking????? even children????? even women???? Tracking is a good thing but it is imposdsble to completely track these people….Obama and Hillary seem to be making a case that these refugees are women and children and would not harm anyone…WRONG!!! It’s a proven fact that both women and children are capable of being or becoming terrorist…How many are we tracking in the U.S. How many can we not stop with TRACKING ?????Tracking isn’t the answer it might help but isn’t the answer.
Oliver says
J D S–a few months ago, I heard (on a radio program) that someone in the FBI (or was it Homeland Security? one of the two) said that there are about 1,000 people on the WATCH LIST OF SUSPECTED OR POTENTIAL TERRORISTS.
A lib broke this down- comes to only about 20 per state. Not a big deal.
911 was done by 13 .
Havoc says
The French need to host a televised nationwide roundup. Call it a ‘rodeo’.
It would make great entertainment.
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I would watch.
Zha says
Refugees or an Occupation Army?[Changes in laws will occur gradually]
by Maria Polizoidou • October 11, 2016 at 5:00 am
“Allah requires from the believers to be masters of the land where they live, and only they can have property, and only we will be able to own the land.” — Muslim migrants in Crete, Greece.
The migrants were ready to wage jihad because they believed a rumor about an event for which, even had it been true, the Greek State and its inhabitants had no responsibility.
The establishment in Greece is a miniature of the American establishment: politicians and institutions of government corrupted to the bones.
We Greeks have already been crushed by Islam, by the twentieth century genocide in Turkey and the more recent Turkish occupation of Cyprus, again with the world’s complicity.
What is happening in Greece, as in much of Europe, is actually a massive replacement of its population, its values and its way of life.
The mainstream political parties obey the self-destructive EU policies on immigration that could eventually cause the end of the Hellenic-Judeo-Christian values of Europe, such as individual freedom, critical thinking and dispassionate inquiry.
[picture removed) Archbishop Hieronymus of Athens and All Greece is pictured distributing food to migrants at the Port of Piraeus. ****The Archbishop removed his cross from his vestments during the visit to Piraeus, in order, he said, not to “offend” the Muslim migrants. (Image source: HellasNewsTv video screenshot)
What does an occupation army do when it is installed in a country? It occupies the land, forcing residents to follow its own way of life. It implements measures against the country’s inhabitants, it propagandizes its beliefs and uses force to have them imposed.
This, sadly, is what has been happening in Greece from the migrants who seem to “forget” that they are hosted in Greece and force the Greeks to feel like guests in their own country.
If someone is a war refugee or his life is in danger in his homeland, it would seem appropriate, when he arrives in the country which offers him asylum, to be grateful to this country, respect its history, its people its values and its laws. The same would hold true for an immigrant who wants to go to a country where he hopes he will find a better future.
just for reference
Al-Makkari, Ahmed ibn Mohammed. The History of Mohammedan Dynasties in Spain. 1629; translated from originals in the British Library by Pascual de Gayangos, (W.H. Allen and Co., London, 1840). Print.
Please use the word MOHAMMEDAN for the followers of Mohammad. Like in Mohammedan LAW as it was a few decades ago before the days of Muslim Brotherhood introducing terms like Islamophobhia and hijab for ‘our’ females, to set them apart, so that nobody dare touch them.
Walter Sieruk says
The French are wise to keep on guard with sharp vigilance against those scheming jihadist with their malice-filled and murderous intentions.
This is because even before that vicious Charlie Hebdo jihad attack and those brutal murderous Islamic terror attacks in Paris, France, on November 13, 2015 and then that Nice, France jihad murdering jihad attack on July 14, 2016 in an ISIS audio recording broadcasted on September 2014 declared “If you can kill a disbelieving American or European especially the spiteful and filthy French …kill him in any manner or way however it may be.” [1] This alone exposes the vicious and malicious way of thinking of the jihadist who composes ISIS. The result of this wicked mindset where those heinously malice – filled jihad mindset was carried out by those by those Islamic jihadist deadly attacks in Paris and Nice. Furthermore the jihadists of ISIS sure have some gall calling the French “spiteful” since it’s the jihadist ISIS thugs who are so very spiteful that they murder people in many extremely cruel ways. Likewise, the ISIS savages have some gall calling the French “filthy” Since it’s the ISIS jihadist villains who the ones who are so lawless and vile that the kidnap and rape both girls and women.
[1] THE ISIS CRISIS by Charles Dyer Page 44
Shan Lim says
Why even waste limited resources of time and manpower to track down these vermin scourge of humanity on a daily basis? The only solution to these demon possessed beings is to deport them to the islamic hell hole they came out of.
b.a. freeman says
i’m sure that if the french win the coming civil war, the muslms will either be deported or killed. the problem is that they might not win; prospects are dimming by the day…
linnte says
b.a, you are right. So do the French know how to fight? We’re they raised in a warlike environment like these refugees? No. They will probably lose. French children are helpless too. It will be beyond horrifying!
RL Robison says
American kids are no better. Some college students not too long ago wanted :safe spaces” because they were frightened of chalk drawings on a sidewalk! This kind of fragility will not stand up to defend the U.S.
dumbledoresarmy says
Don’t underestimate them.
Before WWII, the Germans had the Hitlerjugend and also provided some truly horrendous calculated training in sadism for the people who became the SS and Gestapo. And then there was imperial Japan, embracing a fanatical bloodthirstiness, and ‘blooding’ its soldiers in the campaigns of cruelty and oppression in Korea and China before ever WWII properly began; with traditions such as harakiri.
NO western country put its professional soldiers through anything like that, let alone its ordinary non-conscripted civilians.
Yet perfectly ordinary western civilians, including blokes from desk jobs, after voluntarily enlisting and undergoing basic training that did not require destroying their own souls, proved quite up to the task of defeating Nazis and fanatical Japanese soldiers, not only via things like Bomber Command, but in gruelling hand-to-hand combat on the battlefield.
Mazo says
Vegemite addict says perfectly ordinary western civilians won World War II.
Like Muslim Punjabis and Muslim Baluchis in the British Indian Army.
Moroccan Berber Muslims in the Free France forces.
Every single Muslim in Mindanao and China who fought against Japanese and Western imperialists for the first half of the 20th century.
Next time say Santa Claus won the war singlehandedly. Its more believable.
Mark A says
I wonder what being “tracked on a daily basis” actually entails. And how much does it cost the French taxpayer to carry out this tracking?
al norm says
If you got to Paris now, you can see the dwindling of funding for public spaces. Not the big tourist places, but the inconspicuous areas. The train trip from the airport shows the once beautiful Pairs as an industrial wasteland, overgrown weeds, graffiti, falling apart buildings. So far it is just these areas. It was bad ten years ago – now it has accelerated. City wide Islamicide.
Angemon says
What do you think it’ll happen when those children reach that age where teens/young adults try to outdo each other? Do a tattoo and jump from a cliff on a dare?
Walter Sieruk says
This French police “Watch list “is a reminder that next month will be a year since those heinous and murderous jihad massacres in Paris France on November 13, 2015 it should be make clear that those brutal and cruel Islamic murders happened ,in part, because of those jihad-minded Muslim males who are so extremely deluded and irrational because they really believed in the nonsensical , strange and far –fetched doctrine contained in the Koran, of sex-filled paradise with black eye- houris, virgins, in it for the male Muslim who dies as a “martyr” for the cause of Islam fighting in the jihad. As, this bizarre Islamic doctrine of a houris -filled place is found in the Koran in, for example, 4:54. 55:56. 78:31. So this odd and outlandish Koranic doctrine inspired many young Muslims males to commit many horrendous, ruthless, heartless and murderous actions of jihad violence. Those vicious jihadists massacres that occurred during the night of November 13, 2015 was most wicked and hideous . That extreme deadly evil caused by those jihadist/Muslims with their firm but blind unquestioning belief in the weird and false doctrine from the Koran of such a houris, filled paradise that had the outcome of mass murder and chaos in the city of Paris France, is a strong reminder of the wise statement written by the French philosopher, Voltaire, who wrote “As long as men continue to believe in absurdities they will continue to commit atrocities.”
aDhimmiSaysWhat? says
You forgot to add that they will also get little boys to rape too, “like scattered pearls”
Taurus Caerulus says
A nice start, if the muslims were investigated consequent.
But I think, the attack on the Bataclan wasn’t difficult.
Supported by muslim ‘guards’!
If you put a gun in a rucksack oder a violine case, nobody is gonna stop you. And smuggling thinks through dark is easy too.
I shoved my salut gun away from the police eyes, as i wanted to take on a girlslapper in my neighborhood with the buttstock.
(But he was lost, and hadn’t slapped his girl, he has punched a man who was with his girl)
Ashley says
POLICE in France say almost 2,000 children are on a watch list of more than 15,000 Islamic radicals in the country.
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Meanwhile, Germany authorities can’t seem to locate one Jaber Albakr who was on their “watch list” but ran off on his own two legs eluding capture! How the hell can France constantly monitor the movements of 15,000 Islamic radicals?
And good luck monitoring the activity of an 11-year-old. It is an exercise in futility.
Wellington says
And still French authorities, as with British, American, Canadian, German, Swedish, et al.——–it’s a long list of nations here to be sure——-refuse to conclude that Islam itself is the problem. Until this is done, and it’s nowhere in sight being done as of present, only a tactical victory here or there will be the result. And even the best of tactics ultimately mean very little if not accompanied by sound strategy.
Islam is a cancer growing in the West and elites aplenty in the political realm, the media and academia refuse to acknowledge what is so plainly the truth of the matter. Precisely to the extent that it continues to be denied that Islam, all of it, is inimical to Western Civilization, then to this very extent is Western Civilization in great jeopardy of eventually being no more, which, it should be noted, would fit in with Islam’s ultimate designs where the West is concerned most decidedly. Yes, Islam is this nefarious and those who continue to defend Islam are fools at best and fifth columnists at worst.
The slow suicide of the West continues. Shouldn’t but it does. Courtesy of two factors: 1) Islam; and 2) excuse making for Islam whatever the wretched motive.
Christianblood says
Wellington posted
(..slam is a cancer growing in the West and elites aplenty in the political realm, the media and academia refuse to acknowledge what is so plainly the truth of the matter..)
Very true and correct!
Wellington, do you know that US, Britain and France are now the air force for the barbaric, head-chopping islamic terrorists in Syria? Read it on the link below please: https://www.rt.com/op-edge/362107-us-france-uk-syria-terrorists/
Greyhound Fancier says
The “debate” had a Muslim ask a question about the sadness she feels about “islamophobia”. Trump actually alluded to the difficulty of sorting decent Muslims from radical Islamic terrorists, and challenged Miss Hillary to call Islamic terrorism by that name.
Mrs. Clinton recited the notion that calling murderous Muslims “radical Islamic terrorists” is somehow a tool used by radical Islamic terrorists to recruit more radical Islamic terrorists. More of the same.
I do not plan to vote for either of the two characters in the “debate”, but sadly the likely next President is committed to more of the same insane policy we now follow.
Wellington says
With Trump there is a chance he’ll do the right things (e.g., appoint judges to the federal courts who won’t rewrite the Constitution). With Clinton there is no chance she’ll do the right things. Indeed, she will do one wrong thing after another (e.g., maintain complete open borders)
So, logic and ethics demand that Trump be voted for. Put another way, does one want to feel good or do good. If the former, then do what you plan to do, which is to vote for neither. If to do good, then vote for Trump. Whatever his flaws, they pale in comparison to hers.
Praeceptor Maximus says
Greyhound Fancier
I fully trust Trump and I am not an American. And I tell you why I trust him. He is a fabulously rich man with a great family and a great life and he really didn’t need all this grief that he is getting from every which direction now that he is running for presidency. Trump is a true patriot who genuinely wants to save his country. That he came across as sympathetic towards that Muslim girl today is something that he had to do. You already know the hostility that he faces from everyone over his policy of temporary ban on Muslims from coming to America. Listen to what Trump says about not saying. When he says that you never tell the enemy of your plan. Trump is a doer and not a talker. He is smart and he is learning fast how to be a politician. Once he becomes president, he will not only ban Muslims from entering the US, but he will have the mosques watched like a hawk. So, please do not abstain from voting. Every vote counts. Trump must win this election. There are only two ways of saving the western world from this plague that is Islam. Either Jesus has to return and fix this world up, or Trump has to win and fix it. I am not quite sure about Jesus returning; but Trump is here to fix it. So please vote for him. America is the capital of the world; when it sneezes everyone catches cold. So the revolt against Islam must start from America in order for it to reach Europe and then here in Australia. Vote Trump, please.
Jack Diamond says
Trump’s response wasn’t good. Even if he doesn’t want to get into a debate about phony “Islamophobia” as a diversion tactic away from the real victims of Muslim terrorism (American lives are worth less to her than politically-correct fantasies), he needs to have a fact-based response about the clear and present danger posed by Muslim immigration–even if he now has to call it “extreme vetting” from “certain countries”. She actually accused him of causing Islamic terrorism and recruiting for ISIS by making Muslims feel unwanted and hurting their feelings. Something she would never do.
The number of and examples of attacks and plots from Muslim immigrants or the children of immigrants; the kind of attacks the Islamic State has called for in America (Trump could just read from the bone-chilling manifesto) and how Muslims have ACTED on those orders; that the FBI is investigating ISIS-related plots in all 50 states, that ISIS has not only claimed to have infiltrated the refugees, it’s been proven to, just as seven of the Paris jihadists got in posing as refugees. Trump needs to better destroy Clinton’s claim that she can vet her friendly Muslims (her widows and orphans…). He can also talk about the true refugees, the persecuted Christians, who are not being brought here, and why they are discriminated against, and what he would do about the genocide against them.
Why, he could even quote some of those polls of Muslims and just how many support Shari’a law and exactly what that means they support, and why such people do not belong in America. Then Hillary can tell us about the Muslim contributions to America since 1776, again, and the dead war hero, again. And then Trump can read the list of dead Americans from allahu akbar screaming Muslim jihadists, name by name by name.
Jack Diamond says
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2016/10/62-isis-jihad-plots-in-us-in-one-year-over-half-by-immigrants-or-their-children
even if he just repeated this. “62 ISIS jihad plots in US in one year, over half by immigrants or their children…(and) President Hillary Clinton will increase Muslim migration by 550%.”
“In total 64 people have been murdered and at least 121 wounded in the U.S. by ISIS-inspired attackers.
They included the 49 dead and 53 wounded of the Orlando nightclub attacks, as well as the 14 killed and 22 hurt by the San Bernardino shooters.
The analysis shows that 13 people linked to ISIS by the federal authorities were the children of immigrants from countries including Palestine(sic) and Pakistan.”
RL Robison says
I agree…there are lots of valid points Trump could be making to put Hillary on the defensive. But Trump’s advisors and the Republican party are letting her get away with the big lie. Republican politicians would rather see the country slid down the rat hole than risk their re-election plans.
Praeceptor Maximus says
Jack Diamond
He had only two minutes to respond. Even I myself was his adviser I would tell him not to drag the issue with that Muslim girl. He can’t give more ammunition to Hillary and his enemies to portray him as someone who is divisive and not fit to become president. Besides which, the moderators would have cut him off. As I said before, do not listen to what he says; listen to what he does not say; he does not reveal his plans to the enemy. We are involved in a highly dangerous war with the Muslims and people are being betrayed by their political leaders. Never before in history this has happened, So in order to fight the leadership and the enemy, we need a champion who is both a fox and a lion and Trump is that person. If Clinton gets elected, 8 Nov. 1016 will go down in history as the date for the fall of America and the western civilization.
RL Robison says
Unfortunately, not voting at all equates to voting for whoever wins. Which candidate do you think will harm this country more? Decide that, then vote for the other candidate. For me, I do not want to see my country suffer as Hilary’s friend Angela Merkle is making Germany suffer.
Controversy says
I live in France near by Nice and i know nothing will be the same since Bastille day
However now i feel like everybody has alteady forgotten this terrible 14 of July .
Politic are just trying to deny facts in order to keep the society together .
We are like sheep and anyone who would point that any of this could be related / linked to islam would be a Racist .
There is a strong police of thought here .
This is really sad because france use to be a free and progressist country ….
We have lots of wolves already in France and we raised them and grow them because we were utopist and thinking they will be part of the country !!!
CCIF the organism who is officially controlling what we can say or not say on islam in france is directed by a very talented Marwan Muhamad who is linked to djihadists and radical imams and this just under the nose of the president .
Vive la france !!!!’
Jack Diamond says
CCIF (the collective against islamophobia in France)–no doubt a chapter coming to America if Clinton is elected– and Marwan Muhammad, who famously said, “Who has the right to say that France in thirty or forty years will not be a Muslim country? Who has the right in this country to deprive us of it?”
Who has that right, people of France? Better figure it out.
Controversy says
@ jack diamond
I see u know very well the subject .
I truly hope America will keep her freedom of opinion whatever hapen …
and for my daughter s really hope France will not fall on the dark side and live under the code of a middle age religion ..
Jack Diamond says
We share the same hopes, and fight.
dumbledoresarmy says
I have a slogan for you: “Got Muslims? Got Jihad”.
Can you translate it into colloquial French?
Print out little stickers and put them up everywhere. Make it go viral. Confront people with the truth, over and over and over and over, in the simplest possible form.
Or make it a little longer – “Bataclan. Charlie Hebdo. Nice. Rouen. Toulouse. Got Muslims? Got Jihad”.
Judi says
Is it any wonder Marin Le Pen’s party is so popular?
Praeceptor Maximus says
Once Trump wins the election, France must vote for Marine Le Pen. France can only be saved if Le Pen is president.
Peter says
Given that +60% of Tunisian Muslims in France voted for Tunisian Islamists a few years ago, and 2/3s of Muslims worldwide desire to live under Infidelphobic Shariah, France will need to monitor ca. 3 million “Muslim” French, and become a police state to do that.
Clearly, the French government grossly underestimates the Islamic threat to French sovereignty, identity, culture, civilization, way of life and well-beimg.
Don McKellar says
This is completely insane. How could the French vote for anybody but politicians who will fix this nightmare? What is wrong with their heads?
Greyhound Fancier says
Somehow the threat of being called a name (“xenophobic”, “Islamophobic”, “racist”) is enough to immobilize otherwise sentient persons.
RL Robison says
Don McKellar…the same thing is happening here in America. The average citizen is too lazy to learn the truth, the politicians are too afraid that they won’t be elected if they speak the truth, and organizations like CAIR are allowed to freely operate within the American school system. Political Islam knows that destroying from within works!! Watch some of the Congressional hearing posted on youTube, pay attention to what is asked and what some Federal officials say (or refuse to say) and you’ll see this in action – it is chilling.
Georg says
Let’s compare racist white people to cute Japanese people on the issue:
“As of December 2015 Japan had 13,831 asylum applications under review.[16] In 2015, 7,500 people applied for refugee status in Japan, and in the same year a total of 27 asylum applications were approved. In 2014, 5000 applications were made and 11 applications were approved.[17] Recent low approval rates for asylum applications follow historic trends; in a 22 year period from 1982 to 2004, a total of 330 applications for asylum were approved, an average of 15 per year.[18]
Whereas in Germany and Canada around 40% of asylum applications are approved, in Japan the number averages 0.2 per cent.[19] On occasion, where Japan has stopped short of granting official refugee status, applicants have been granted permission to stay on humanitarian grounds.”
Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_to_Japan#Current_immigration_statistics
abad says
Deport them all.
France is not the best place for Muslims to be.
Eric Allen Bell says
THE INFORMATION AGE WILL BE THE DEATH OF ISLAM:
https://youtu.be/woU_mJtjinw
American-Pragmatism says
Extreme vetting versus no vetting
linnte says
We knew this was the case, but it is still shocking. I just pray Hillary is not elected because she will attempt to get rid or alter completely, our second Amendment. It’s inevitable if Europe erupts in Civil War, Britain will follow and most likely some kind of American response will happen. Then the woman who asked about Islamophobia during the debate will get her answer.
duh swami says
Why are they continuing to import large numbers of Muslim
We might ask Obama bin Hillary the same question…We don’t get to vote on national suicide…
Crusades Were Right! says
Why does the West seem to believe it “needs” Mohammedan immigrants, in spite of an abundance of evidence to the contrary? It seems to me it’s the result of indoctrination by the “diversity is strength” ideologues. Proof that mindless devotion to ideology breeds self-destructive idiocy.
Florida Jim says
Send them all home to some mideast hellhole and save your country. Do not believe a one especially CAIR all muslims believe in paradise reached by jihad killing enemies and everyone is an enemy eventually. America must awaken they breed like flies and mosques lead them into falsities and death.
Isn’t it true that any Muslim who believes in the Caliphate, Sharia, Jihad, Taqiyya, Dhimmitude and beheading enemies cannot stay in a civil society paradise depends not on their goodness but they must earn it by killing infidels, the only sure paradise? Since this is true all muslims must convert to Christianity, a religion of love, or leave.Love they god and love thy neighbor doing good for all every day and improvinhg every day. Doesn’t that sound like a good religion.
Anne Smith says
Socialist’s importing them for votes. Muslims vote collectively for socialists. Working classes are joining patriotic parties like LE, UKIP etc and Socialist leaders want to make up the number’s lost. It is going to get nasty but they will have a fight remember the crusades the majority of the army were working classes not knights.
Raja says
The moot point is why import these highly immoral, ungrateful people in such large numbers? Why allow them to reach a dangerous level at around 10%? They are most certain to demand break up of France (in this case) so they can have unfettered sharia. France is doomed either way.
It seems like France is staring at the prospect of a long drawn civil war for her stupid policies.
dumbledoresarmy says
Anybody here know how to take the phrase “Got Muslims? Got Jihad” and translate it into colloquial French?
The Front National could then pick it up and use it.
It is a simple and succinct statement of observable fact.
If there were NO Muslims resident on French soil – if NO Muslims had ever been allowed to enter and settle in France – France’s homeland security headache (and associated massive and ballooning expenses) would be far, far less.
The Ummah, or Mohammedan Mob, the Allah Gang, is the nurturing, sheltering sea in which creatures like the Bataclan mass-murderers, the Nice mass murderer, the assassins who attacked Charlie Hebdo and the Jewish supermarket, the murderers of Ilan Halimi and Sebastien Selam and Jonathan Sandler and Gabriel and Ariel and Miriam Monsonego, the murderers of Fr Jacques Hamel, swim and from which, naturally and continuously, they emerge, increasing in numbers and in boldness proportionately as that Ummah, or Allah Gang, increases in numbers and in perceived and actual strength vis a vis the surrounding Infidels.
Jack Diamond says
Not too good with French but I’ll give it a shot: “obtenu musulmans? obtenu djihad”
Now someone French can correct me.
Matthieu Baudin says
How long can this cultural stalemate continue? Take note Central European friends – you should avoid sharing this miserable social burden and instead concentrate on building yourselves up to be lands of economic opportunity encouraging civil order and the pursuit of happiness.
Laura says
Unlimited and unregulated immigration is so nonsensical, it makes me wonder if crooked Hillary and traitor Obama received money from the Saudis or other Mideast countries to allow it. We know for sure the Clintons became multi-millionaires while she was Secretary of State.
dumbledoresarmy says
Above, when in response to another poster, I spoke of the ordinary decent western men who proved capable of defeating in battle the barbaric fanatics of 1/ the Third Reich and 2/ the Japanese, writing as follows – “… perfectly ordinary western civilians, including blokes from desk jobs, after voluntarily enlisting and undergoing basic training that did not require destroying their own souls, proved quite up to the task of defeating Nazis and fanatical Japanese soldiers, not only via things like Bomber Command, but in gruelling hand-to-hand combat on the battlefield”… the Mohammedan ‘mazo’ sneered and snarled and spat insults at me in his usual vile fashion and then proceeded to try to imply – by mentioning certain groups of Muslims in certain theatres who for whatever reason happened to fight on the Allied side (though there were *also* plenty of Muslims who fought on the *other* side; and he won’t mention, I’m sure, the mutual admiration between Nazis ahd not a few Muslims, nor the fact that the dar al Islam *welcomed* and sheltered many fugitive Nazis, many of whom converted to Islam, there was such a good ‘fit’ between the two hideous ideologies of blood and war) – that the Allies could not have won the war without the Muslims (indeed, he seems to be trying to imply that the Muslims did all the fighting that mattered and that the non-Muslim troops in every Allied force were a tiny minority and/ or else useless wimps who didn’t know how to fight at all… (Wellington; perhaps you could bring your historical knowledge to bear, here), and the sheer madhattery involved in such an implied claim, given the relative numbers of non-Muslims vs Muslims in the populations of the main countries involved, is mind-boggling.
Exactly how many all-Muslim crews flew in Bomber Command, for example? How many Muslim pilots as opposed to NON-MUSLIMS were in the RAF for the Battle of Britain? How many all-Muslim ships took part in the Battle of the Coral Sea?? How many Muslims were among the Americans at Iwo Jima? Normandy landing? I would hazard a guess, not that many; the Muslim percentage of the total American population in 1939-1942 would have been vanishingly small, as also in Britain and Australia. And statistically speaking, surely there would have been more *non-Muslim* than Muslim Chinese fighters, more *non-Muslim* than Muslim Filipino fighters, and more *non-Muslim* than Muslim Indians: the Gurkhas and Sikhs have a long and proud history of fighting in the British army and neither of those groups are Muslims).
mazo contributes nothing at all to this forum *except* to exhibit the sheer nastiness and ugliness of what Islam does to the human mind and soul.
Jack Diamond says
The “Muslims won WWII” narrative seems to center around the British Indian Army and its large number of Muslims, throw in anecdotes like Noor Inayat Khan aiding the French resistance, or Tunisia aiding Jews, or Jordan’s Legion fighting with the Allies (all of 1,600 men). The British Indian Army consisted of between 32-37% Muslims (hardly a majority) during WWII and there ample cause to say that Indian Muslims (and the Muslim League) had their own reasons to fight on the British side, which was the British promise of a Muslim state. Just as the Arabs in WWI had fought on the British side to secure an Arab state. By WWII the same Arab world was chock full of Nazi allies, and not so much an alliance of convenience as shared ideologies.
For a glimpse into how Muslims respect the Allies of WWII, here are some desecrating a cemetery. With the remains of British and Italian soldiers killed in Libya:
https://youtu.be/RtgbvotqVFE
Mazo says
32-37% of the British Indian Army is still way beyond the percentage of total Muslims in British India. The total Muslim civilian population was a smaller percentage of the population of British India.
The British Indian Army deliberately recruited Muslims from northwest regions like Punjab and Baluchistan way out of proportion to the majority Hindu population of central India. After the Sepoy mutiny the British viewed Indian Hindus as disloyal and suspect rebels and ceased focusing recruiting from them. Nepali Gurkha Hindus were not viewed the same as Indian Hindus.
Lipka Tatar Muslims in the Polish army fought against the Nazis. They are Europeanized anyway which is why I did not mention them.
The Russian Tsarist and Soviet Red Army both recruited Muslims into their armies. the Tsars recruited Mishar Tatar Muslims as Cossacks. Muslim Bashkirs and Buddhist Mongol Kalmyks served in the Russian army against Napoleon and helped occupy France after his defeat. the Red Army recruited Muslims from Central Asia and Tatarstan to fight Germany in World War II.
Hui Muslims, Salar Muslims, Dongxiang Muslims and Bonan Muslims all heavily served in the Chinese army for centuries. During World War II all the military Governors of the central provinces of China were Muslim Generals. Muslim General Bai Chongxi was deputy chief of the General staff of the military of China and later Defence Minister. They defeated the Japanese attempts to reach northwest and central China.
The Muslims of Mindanao wiped out the Japanese before MacArthur cane to reocccupy and reinvade.