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India: Six Muslims arrested for plotting Islamic State jihad massacres during Diwali

Oct 3, 2016 1:43 pm By Robert Spencer

Every day, all over the globe, plotting murder and mayhem to appease their bloodthirsty god.

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“India Arrests ISIS Cell Suspected of Plotting Attacks During Diwali,” by Jack Moore, Newsweek, October 3, 2016 (thanks to Lookmann):

Indian authorities have dismantled what they called Monday a “terror module” inspired by the Islamic State militant group (ISIS) that was planning attacks on notable individuals and public places during the Hindu festival of Diwali.

The country’s national counter-extremism agency arrested six men who had gathered at a hilltop shrine in the southern state of Kerala, who it said were preparing explosives and bringing together other materials in order to execute attacks on the occasion known as the Festival of Lights at the end of October.

“During the searches, incriminating material, including electronic devices have been seized from their possession and search of their premises,” India’s National Investigation Agency said in a statement, Reuters reported….

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  1. Know Thy Enemy says

    Oct 3, 2016 at 3:16 pm

    As the number of Muslims increase in India, this is only going to get worse. There will be more plots and more attacks. The non-Muslims, especially Hindus, of India ignore this at their own peril. All your money and your degrees will be worthless in the face of Islamic aggression. Your sons/grandsons will live with inferiority complexes and your [grand]daughters will be wooed over by Muslim men.

    There is only one way that I know of to reverse this trend. Bring the Muslims of India out of Islam and into Hinduism. This will be a slow process but this is the only method that will work. Of course this endeavor will have to be accompanied by other projects, namely-

    1) Eliminating female foeticide from Hindu society. Not only is this practice immoral but it is causing a reduction in the percentage of Hindus compared to Muslims in India. IMO the root behind female foeticide lies in Indian worship of materialism and social-status. Indians need to stop worshiping these demons and live by Dharma instead. Living by Dharma is much harder compared to living a materialistic life but only Dharma will ensure good (shubh) for your future generations.

    2) Of course one can live by Dharma only if one knows what Dharma is in the first place. That brings us to the second project- Study Hinduism. Separate the wheat from the chaff (that is, separate useless beliefs and rituals from the good/useful ones). Learn how and why the useful knowledge helps followers.

    3) Once Hindus have a good knowledge of Dharma, they will be able to explain to the world (including Muslims) why Dharma is good, and will be able to answer questions. There are many Muslims who have doubts regarding Islam but they do not leave because they simply do not know where else to go, or that they even have an option. They don’t become Hindus because they simply do not know much about it (except for the silly stuff that they can tell is useless). When Hindus spread the knowledge of Hinduism, they WILL know that there is indeed something better out there where they can go. They WILL ask “how do I become a Hindu?” Have an answer ready for them! Help them become Hindus. Do not tell them ignorant nonsense like “well, you see….we don’t proselytize so you don’t really have to become Hindu.” (Click here to read incredibly stupid examples of how Hindus push Muslims back into Islam!)

    In a different post someone said that Muslims have to find the way out [of Islam] themselves. I disagree. What if they do not (or cannot) find a way out? Then it is your future generations who will be screwed. So wise up, and get started on reversing the trend for the good of your own children. Doing so IS living by Dharma!

  2. Hermes says

    Oct 3, 2016 at 8:08 pm

    A common mixed relationships (marriages, common law and dating) in my part of the world – metropolitan Vancouver in BC, Canada is s as follows…
    Muslim male with non-Muslim female. The opposite, at least in public is rare. Why? I can only speculate. But clearly there is no trend for Muslim women to couple with non-Muslims, but the opposite, while not the norm, is not at all uncommon. Curiously these standard couplings are not unique to religion but are also true in ethnicities. For example, black (whether African or Caribbean) male with Caucasian female, and also Caucasian male with East Asian (e.g. Chinese) female. The opposite couplings are not common, although I do see older (55+) couples where the the male is Chinese. I would like to see a sociological study seeking the data on where, when and why this is so. Particularly on the Muslim issue. I suspect it has something to do with Islamic law on inter-marriage. Islam wins a convert. Marriage as jihad.

    To KnowThyEnemy, I say while Israel and India (and Russia?) could become stalwarts against the advance of Islam, India might be problematic. Why? There is no such religion as Hinduism. ‘Hinduism’ is a group, a family, of religions with commonalities. There is no single leader or administration, and sometimes the differences in doctrine and practice from one sect/organization/even sampradaya are so different from each other they might as well be considered separate religions. The differences between a Orthodox, Reformed and Congregationalist Jew are much smaller versus the differences between a Vedantist, Brahmo Samaj and a Gaudiya Vaishnava. Do you disagree?

    Dharmic religions have been around a lot longer than Abrahamic religions, including both Christianity and Islam, so Sanatana Dharma has had accretions upon accretions plus multiple reformations where its foundations (e.g. the Vedas and Jati by the Lingayats) was thrown away.

    Thus, Hinduism has numbers and history but no unified political force compared to say the Church of Latter Day saints (‘Mormons’). When the Bishops of the ‘Mormons’ in the USA pronounces a new policy their flock follows. Hindus on the other hand can be individualists or dedicated to a guru in a local parampara. There is no global or even Indian Hindu Council.

    On the political level, I find the government of India weak. Nothing against Buddhism (I am a Buddhist) but why does the largest nation of Hindus on the planet have on its national flag the chakra? It boggles the mind.

    Do you see on the horizon religious unity in India or among Hindus, just from having a common and historical enemy?

    • Agnishtoma says

      Oct 4, 2016 at 2:34 am

      You are wrong Hermes. Whatever the sampradaya be, the main source text is the Veda and the dharma shastras. It is only in the Upanishads that differences arise. But the other portions of the Veda are agreed to by all, and Vedic ritualistic practices being almost the same(For example offering in the fire). Also the entire Veda whatever flavor it may be(Rig Yajus sama and atharva), is chanted in the same intonation by all sampradayas. This means that if a Vaishnava and an advaiti chant the Taittriya yajur veda, they chant all the portions including the upanishads in the same intonations All other texts like the Geeta and the puranas etc are only ancillary and secondary in nature.

      The problem is that this is not known even to the Hindus themselves. Also constant denudation of hindu culture by libertards, leftists and western indologists results in these kinds of opinions. If you think i am come and lying i would recommend you(Not sure If you are a westerner and not visited India even once) to go to remote villages in south India near Tiruchirapalli and thanjavur and kumbakonam. There you would find Vedic culture fully alive and kicking and people of all sampradays perform vedic yajnas with very few differences. It is only in the cities that people have the “Mcdonalized” version of hinduism which you seem to quote. Please understand that whatever the sampradaya there has to be vedic authority to it.

      So your claim that sanatana dharma is not a religion is not right and sounds ridiculous to me.

      • Know Thy Enemy says

        Oct 4, 2016 at 6:39 am

        Hi Agnishtoma, IMO Hermes is correct in calling Hinduism a “family of religions with commonalities” and you may not be incorrect in noting that belief in primacy of Vedas is a primary commonality of this umbrella religion called Hinduism.

        “The problem is that this is not known even to the Hindus themselves.”

        And this is where Hindus need to change. They need to spend time learning about their religion and study it enough to know which denomination they belong to, what the beliefs and practices of this denomination are, and how this denomination differs from other [major] denominations.

        Individual Hindus also need to start living by the primary teachings of their denomination. They should ask questions and if the answers do not provide comfort, they should change the denomination.

        Once at this stage, Hindus should become more active in displaying their beliefs and practices. This means posting material on social media and attaching links to websites that provide more information. For example, currently Navratri festival is going on. So post something about the Goddess on Facebook and Instagram. If anyone asks questions, provide answers. If someone asks for details, provide it to them!

        And most importantly, if someone inquires about how one can become Hindu, Hindus MUST provide that information. Do not tell them that converting is not necessary. Certainly do not say such a thing to a Muslim! Find out which temple and/or which organization has rituals ceremonies to help people join Hinduism. Also find out if your own temple has such a ceremony or not. If they don’t, have them start one!

        Note: I fully understand that having such ceremonies are not necessary. However, the purpose of such ceremonies is to give the convert emotional assurance about him/her having joined a new belief system.

        • Agnishtoma says

          Oct 4, 2016 at 1:22 pm

          Well good points “Know thy Enemy”. Conversions are happening at a small level. You probably are aware of the ghar wapasis being conducted. But there is one point on conversion/evangelism. I have studied the Yajur Veda and the dharmashastras to some extent. I do not see any formal ritual for conversions enunciated in them, like say Baptism in Christianity and so on.

          I have been asked by many Western people as to how to convert to Hinduism,especially from the US. But frankly I told them that the Vedas had no rituals for proselytisation. and they find it weird that such an ancient faith did not have this. But i think the Chinmaya mission, ISKON etc have some form of conversion. I guess because people like Julia Roberts say they “converted” to Hinduism. That was news to me as i had never known such a thing existed. So may be you are right. But with Muslims we cannot be too sure because of the doctrine of Taqiya

        • Know Thy Enemy says

          Oct 5, 2016 at 4:13 am

          Hi Agnishtoma,

          Yes, some conversions are happening but they are not enough. Also, I am not for ‘proselytization’. I am for making knowledge of Hinduism available to everyone. I am also for posting material [on social-media] that induces people to learn more about Dharma. However, we should never explicitly ask anyone to convert.

          But what if the person decides on his/her own that s/he wants to become a Hindu? In that case, a ritual and a mantra should be made available to him/her so s/he can ‘convert’. But which ritual? Any ritual and mantra that is simple to understand yet makes the person feel a strong pull towards the divine/truth will do. Since you have studied some shastras, can you identify any rituals (and mantras) that meets this criteria. If yes, then THAT is the ritual/mantra that should be invoked in order to convert that person. You should also contact the local temple and converse with other learnt Hindus to decide which ritual and mantra would be best. IMO it is ok to have more than one ritual/mantra, and employ any one of those for the conversion.

          Some organization like the Arya Samaj already have conversion rituals that are recognized by Govt. of India and its states.

          As for the concern about Taqiyya, there is an easy way to stay safe from it. Make sure not to let anyone bring Quran, Muhammad, or the Muslim identity into Hinduism. So for example, if someone claims that since the Quran is one of the books revealed by God, it is ok to include it among shruti or smriti, do not accept that! If someone claims that Muhammad is a avatar just like Rama and Krishna, or a guru, do not accept that! Similarly, if someone calls himself both a ‘Muslim’ and a ‘Hindu’, do not accept that. Anyone who persists in claiming such things, his/her conversion should be nullified. It should be one or the other.

          As long as Hindus strictly follow the above rule, they will be safe from taqiyya.

        • agnishtoma says

          Oct 6, 2016 at 2:41 am

          Know thy enemy. For a start i have written some articles at http://jayasreesaranathan.blogspot.in/search/label/R.%20Ramanathan.

          Read if interested and let me know of any comments/suggestions

        • Know Thy Enemy says

          Oct 6, 2016 at 3:22 am

          @agnishtoma,

          Those are some fairly theoretical but otherwise very interesting articles at that link. I have bookmarked the page. Thank you.

    • Know Thy Enemy says

      Oct 4, 2016 at 5:35 am

      Hi Hermes, I agree with your description of ‘Hinduism’, that it is “a group, a family, of religions with commonalities.” (Some use the phrase “umbrella religion” that contains many different, but related, religions within it.) You are also correct to note that Hindus can be individualists or dedicated to a guru.
      However, such variety is not a weakness/shortcoming of Hinduism, but rather its strength. It is evidence of the fact that Hinduism is a religion of freedom [of thought and expression]. This freedom is one of the major features that sets Hinduism apart from other religions.

      As I mentioned, Hindus need to take Muslims out of Islam and bring them to Hinduism, and one of the primary ways this can be done is by marketing Hinduism (not proselytizing, simply marketing). The freedom available in this religion regarding what to believe and practice, should be presented as a positive point.

      Please note that this freedom cannot include importing foreign beliefs that will clearly drastically change Hinduism’s setup. So for example, if someone starts believing in Quran as holy book and/or Muhammad as prophet, and still calls himself “Hindu”, that should not be accepted. Quran and Muhammad absolutely do not, and cannot, fall under the “Hindu” umbrella!

      “Do you see on the horizon religious unity in India or among Hindus, just from having a common and historical enemy?”

      Do you mean a religious unity with political aims? Because of its variety I don’t see how Hinduism can be organized under a single religious administration, but Hindus can unite for political aims and they already do. Hindus have groups like RSS and VHP (google them) but imo they either do not do a good job or they are insufficient to improve conditions.

      It is the everyday Hindus who need to change their ways and start living by Dharma. This is not an option. If they don’t change, the Muslims will change them (their future generations to be exact) and this change will be very ugly.
      ————————

      Also, I agree with gravenimage regarding Islam not being an Abrahamic religion. Islam is nothing but a fraud committed by Muhammad.

  3. Angemon says

    Oct 3, 2016 at 8:40 pm

    I wonder if the usual suspects – the people who say, for example, that America deserved 9/11 for its intervention in the ME or that “Palestinians” murdering innocent civilians represents a valid form of fighting against oppression – can explain me why India is having troubles with ISIS…

  4. gravenimage says

    Oct 3, 2016 at 8:47 pm

    Hermes wrote:

    Muslim male with non-Muslim female. The opposite, at least in public is rare. Why? I can only speculate…
    …………………………

    You don’t have to speculate, Hermes. Islam allows Muslim men to marry–and rape–Infidels, but does not allow Infidels to marry Muslim women. In most Muslim countries, this is enforced through Shari’ah law. I’ve seen a handful of these cases in the West–but they are *very* rare. Almost always, it is Muslim men with Kuffar women.

    More:

    Dharmic religions have been around a lot longer than Abrahamic religions, including both Christianity and Islam…
    …………………………

    With respect, Hermes, Islam is *not* an “Abrahamic religion”. It has almost nothing in common with Judaism and Christianity in terms of values. Muhammed just appropriated the figures of the Torah and Bible to gain legitimacy.

    More:

    Do you see on the horizon religious unity in India or among Hindus, just from having a common and historical enemy?
    …………………………

    I think it depends on what you mean by “unity”. Most Indian Hindus are entirely civilized, despite their religious differences. Muslims, not so much. Whether non-Muslim Indians will finally take a strong stance against the threat of Islam remains to be seen.

  5. gravenimage says

    Oct 3, 2016 at 8:57 pm

    India: Six Muslims arrested for plotting Islamic State jihad massacres during Diwali
    …………………..

    Muslims often wage violent Jihad during the happiest and/or holiest days of Infidels. They have attacked Infidels during Easter, Christmas, Yom Kippur, and now Diwali. This is common.

    God, I hate Islam.

  6. Matthieu Baudin says

    Oct 3, 2016 at 11:50 pm

    When the ball gets rolling in India, in defence against violent International Jihad, it will be difficult to stop.

  7. sorry_I_am_a_Hindu says

    Oct 4, 2016 at 11:13 pm

    Commented one here before. Northern Kerala is a powder keg with Malabar (which constitutes many districts (counties), one them is a Muslim majority Malappuram where there was a jihad run in 1921. There were many before that (read Malabar Manual by the British administrator William Logan).

    A large number of Muslims from Northern Kerala work in the Middle East (the majority of immigrants there are from northern Kerala) and the money flows back into Northern Kerala.

    Not at all surprised.

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