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Ireland: Crusaders Athletic Club drops cross from its crest to avoid offending Muslims

Oct 18, 2016 12:21 pm By Robert Spencer

It was about fear of the Islamic State, but not just about that fear: “The email said the cyber attack led to a ‘wider debate’ about the club’s identity and there was also a discussion by the organisation’s committee about changing its name due to the religious and historic association with the Christian crusades of the middle ages.”

Is there no one in the West who has any spine? Does no one ever stop to wonder why people of earlier times named the club Crusaders to begin with, and was proud of the name? Or are all the forefathers of these people dismissed as racist, bigoted “Islamophobes”?

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“Athletic club drops cross from its crest over Isil fears weeks before Dublin Marathon,” by Philip Ryan, Independent.ie, October 16, 2016:

An athletic club has decided to temporarily remove a cross emblem from its crest on new sportswear after its website was attacked by someone claiming to represent so-called Islamic State.

The Crusaders Athletic Club wrote to members last week telling them that a decision had been taken to remove the cross from new singlets to be worn by some runners competing in the Dublin City Marathon in two weeks.

The decision to remove the cross from the crest caused major disquiet among members of the Dublin club, with some threatening to leave if the logo is changed.

In an email sent to members, which has been seen by the Sunday Independent, the club said a final decision had not been taken to change the crest but it would be discussed at the annual general meeting.

“As some of you may or may not have heard, our website was hacked (twice) by persons unknown purporting to be from Islamic State and threatening messages sent to us,” it said.

“The second attack pretty much wiped the site out. The committee has a responsibility to discuss and take measures to protect the club and a lot of time and energy was spent trying to figure out how best to deal with this.”

The email said the cyber attack led to a “wider debate” about the club’s identity and there was also a discussion by the organisation’s committee about changing its name due to the religious and historic association with the Christian crusades of the middle ages.

“Threats have to be taken seriously and although any real danger is unlikely, it was decided that as an interim measure and as a compromise to some views in the committee to temporarily suspend the use of the cross logo until the proposal could be put to the members at the AGM,” it added….

In 2009, the Middlesex Crusaders cricket club changed their name to the Middlesex Panthers after complaints from Jewish and Muslim communities about the link to the crusades.

Jihadi terror group Isil regularly brands US-led military action against its strongholds in Iraq and Syria as attacks by “western crusaders” against Muslim communities.

The Crusaders Athletic Club, which is Dublin’s biggest running club, is a non-religious organisation and members stress that its name has no direct association with the crusades in the Middle East.

It is understood that the majority of the runners in the club are in favour of retaining the club logo and name.

Organisers expect almost the entire team that it has entered in the Dublin City Marathon to wear older singlets which include the cross crest rather than the new ones ordered following the alleged attack on its website by Isis….

“Crusaders AC has no religious affiliations and is proud to have one of the largest memberships in Ireland,” the spokesman added.

“Our history is one of inclusivity and openness and we celebrate the diversity that comes with being a modern athletic club.”

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Comments

  1. J-pal says

    Oct 18, 2016 at 12:33 pm

    …not to offensiv the muslims… As I see it, there will be no end of this “offensivt feelings of muslims” – and, hon do they offensiv the feelings of ALL other peoples in the world? To them, it doms not katter at all… The uttermost offender of all, including all categories of everything, “is offended” – an unholy alliance of thoughts and feelings – a true shame of what is left of “humanity” in the world. Dehumanising powered by islam!!!

    • Steve says

      Oct 19, 2016 at 8:01 am

      Did the team replace the cross with the sword and crescent?

      • Peggy says

        Oct 19, 2016 at 8:41 pm

        Don’t give them any ideas.
        If they are ashamed of the cross, Jesus will be ashamed of them.

  2. Jay Boo says

    Oct 18, 2016 at 12:35 pm

    The Crusades were only a self-defense reaction to Muslim aggression.

    Muslims are the ones who should apologize for The Crusades.

    • gravenimage says

      Oct 18, 2016 at 5:40 pm

      Very true, Jay Boo.

    • Darryl Kerney says

      Oct 18, 2016 at 6:22 pm

      agreed,
      but we’ll see heavy metals become lighter than air before That ever happens !

  3. Jay Boo says

    Oct 18, 2016 at 12:37 pm

    Notre Dame dropped its Cross out of fear of offending Obama.

    • gravenimage says

      Oct 18, 2016 at 6:15 pm

      That was at Georgetown, Jay Boo–but you point is quite correct:

      http://www.factcheck.org/2009/04/obama-at-georgetown/

  4. David says

    Oct 18, 2016 at 12:39 pm

    Absolutely rediculous. I would have just made my CROSS twice as big!
    Why are so many cowards and fools around the world so ready to just drop their pants and grab their ankles? ???
    I don’t understand it at all!
    You must fight! Fight to preserve your rights! EVIL WILL ONLY TRIUMPH WHEN GOOD MEN DO NOTHING TO STOP IT!
    Get up off your knees people!
    It is not too late!
    Tell these Savages and barbarians to just GET OUT OF YOUR COUNTRY!
    I’m a sickly, crippled up old man. And I’ve successfully fought back these beasts twice. I used MACE, a handheld TASER and my Uncles hand me down, telescoping POLICE BATON !
    They all ran home to Mama like cry babies!
    All these bullies are sniveling cowards. But YOU have to show that your no easy mark.

    • BLC says

      Oct 18, 2016 at 3:21 pm

      Well said!!!

    • Carmel says

      Oct 18, 2016 at 4:47 pm

      ….Because you are a real man , David . No wonder.

    • Christianblood says

      Oct 18, 2016 at 5:52 pm

      David posted

      (..Absolutely rediculous. I would have just made my CROSS twice as big!
      Why are so many cowards and fools around the world so ready to just drop their pants and grab their ankles????..)

      Because the majority of the people in the West and their governments are spineless, cowardly, morally and culturally compromised, weak, naive, materialistic, godless, foolish, stupid, pro-islamic, pro-jihad, ignorant and anti-Christian. That is why their Popes, presidents, leaders, media and academics are all licking the boots of their barbaric islamic masters!

      • gravenimage says

        Oct 18, 2016 at 6:22 pm

        The idea that dhimmitude is the sole province of the West is–as “Christianblood” well knows–quite mistaken:

        “West should learn from Russia to accept Muslim refugees – Patriarch Kirill”

        http://www.interfax-religion.com/?act=news&div=12354

        Here, he lauded the vicious “Palestinian” Jihadist Mahmoud Abbas for building a mega-Mosque right in Moscow.

        “The patriarch congratulated Abbas, who helped build the mosque, on its opening in Moscow.

        “‘You probably felt what remarkable, good relations have developed between the Orthodox people and Muslims in Russia. We are very glad that finally this big mosque has been built in the city of Moscow to become a place of prayer for many Muslims who live in Moscow and visit Moscow,’ Patriarch Kirill said.”

        • Christianblood says

          Oct 18, 2016 at 6:42 pm

          Graven

          Your argument is weak. No Russian soccer team will EVER drop the Cross as a sign that is offensive to muslims. On the contrary, Russian Orthodox Christians will die defending the Cross to the last man but in the Western world today the opposite is happening. In the Western world today immorality and islam is promoted by the state while Christianity and the Cross are shunned, punished from the public square and are considered as offensive.
          Shame on the Anti-Chris,Western world! Shame on them!

          Compare those two picture. One is America and the other is Russia:

          America:
          1.http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/article/33300524/world-landmarks-lit-up-in-rainbow-colours

          2. Russia
          https://www.rt.com/politics/319490-chastity-faith-and-patriotism-/

        • gravenimage says

          Oct 18, 2016 at 7:04 pm

          It is clear that dhimmitude is not the sole province of the West, as you like to pretend, Christianblood–we are all in trouble.

          And the use of rainbow colors has nothing to do with pandering to Islam. Surely you realize that Islam is not pro gay rights.

        • Mirren10 says

          Oct 18, 2016 at 7:59 pm

          ”No Russian soccer team will EVER drop the Cross as a sign that is offensive to muslims.”

          Possibly. However, Putin doesn’t mind thousands of them infesting Moscow to raise their backsides in honour of ‘eid-al futr’

          https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=%3Dmuslim+prayers+in+moscow&espv=2&biw=1366&bih=662&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjZ3L2gxuXPAhXjLMAKHQSyDkEQ_AUIBigB#imgrc=ysD5bxuHe9pS8M%3A

          As graven cogently notes, there is plenty dhimmitude in Russia, as well as the West. We are **all** in trouble, so stop pretending otherwise.

        • gravenimage says

          Oct 19, 2016 at 10:26 am

          True, MIrren.

        • Michael says

          Oct 20, 2016 at 12:05 am

          I’m curious. What is Christianblood’s game here? Is he a muslim using this Ruso-moral superiority schtick to further undermine Western resolve to fight?

          Whatever the game, it is convoluted and sick.

      • old white guy says

        Oct 19, 2016 at 6:43 am

        Your description of western peoples was most accurate.

        • Peggy says

          Oct 19, 2016 at 8:49 pm

          I disagree. Western governments and some institutions but the people are not in agreement with them.
          That’s why so many anti Islam parties are becoming popular. People are desperate to rid themselves of the evil which has taken hold of our governments and media.
          Yes, it has taken people in the west longer to recognize the danger than in the East and that’s because Eastern Europe suffered more and for longer under Islam but even if not attending church on regular basis, most people will defend the cross.

      • LR says

        Oct 20, 2016 at 12:35 am

        I dare you Christianblood, to go say that to the face of a good ol’ American Texan, Arkansasan, Montanan, etc. I can guarantee you, there are plenty of women and men that will have you pissing your pants.

        But, you know that already.

        You are a sniveling coward, hiding behind your keyboard. I bet you are scared of your own shadow.

        Coward.

    • Champ says

      Oct 18, 2016 at 5:57 pm

      I’m a sickly, crippled up old man. And I’ve successfully fought back these beasts twice. I used MACE, a handheld TASER and my Uncles hand me down, telescoping POLICE BATON !

      ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

      Sir, you’re *awesome*!!! Bravo, David!!

      Great comment, too!

      • gravenimage says

        Oct 18, 2016 at 6:27 pm

        Yes–bravo, David! You are a brave man–may there be more like you!

  5. J-pal says

    Oct 18, 2016 at 12:41 pm

    Let’s rewrite it all into English.

    …not to offend (or be offensive to)… As I see it, there will be no end of these “offensive feelings of muslims” – and, they are the most offensive people, offending in all instances of society, ALL peoples of the world!!! To them, it doesn’t matter at all… The uttermost offenders of all, including all categories of offense “feels offended” – a true shame of hat it really means to be human. Islam is the only, uttermost, dehumanizing power in all history!!!

  6. Lynne says

    Oct 18, 2016 at 12:55 pm

    Outrageous!

  7. Dan says

    Oct 18, 2016 at 12:56 pm

    Guess there ain’t no “Fightin’ Irish” in Ireland no more.

  8. Charli Main says

    Oct 18, 2016 at 12:57 pm

    Muslims are currently conducting the greatest, bloodless conquest in human history.

    Seems like everywhere people have rolled over and are piss*ng on their bellies, in fear of offending the Muslims.

    Well, I wear my cross openly and with pride and I hope it offends every Muslim that sees it.

    • David says

      Oct 18, 2016 at 1:22 pm

      This is one old duffer who IS NOT just going to roll over!
      Not for no COWARDLY BULLY
      Certainly not for any donkey copulating muslim savage.
      STAND UP FOLKS!

      • gravenimage says

        Oct 18, 2016 at 6:36 pm

        Hear, hear!

        • Patti Pickerd says

          Oct 19, 2016 at 2:38 am

          Agree, Hear, Hear!!!!!!!!

  9. Bill says

    Oct 18, 2016 at 1:19 pm

    Ireland is solidly socialist. They will submit to Islam eventually. Their government will order it as in France, Sweden and Germany. Irish serfs will comply, as they have in France, Sweden and Germany.

    • gravenimage says

      Oct 18, 2016 at 6:41 pm

      Don’t declare the West dead–not yet. We all need to stand up. Contact Crusader’s Athletic Club–be polite but firm.

      Acting is *far* better than counseling despair.

    • Dom107 says

      Oct 19, 2016 at 4:02 pm

      No Bill Ireland is not solidly socialist. The Labour party in the Republic of Ireland is a very small party and the two main parties are conservative and more conservative.
      In Northern Ireland one of the two main parties could be described as left leaning and the other one definitely right wing.
      There is a football team in Northern Ireland called Crusaders which I predicted maybe asked to change their name or logo in this current climate but I sincerely hope they don’t.
      The Athletic club in Dublin should not change anything either.
      The World is not divided into Left: Bad. Right: Good as you seem to think !l

  10. ChristianInDeed says

    Oct 18, 2016 at 1:46 pm

    For fecks sake!

    I do understand why they would want to do this – its about moving safely forwards without attracting time-consuming, expense-laden alternatives; i.e. having the balls to stand up to an unseen, possible aggressor!

    However, this unfettered submission surely has to stop! The question is: how do we, as individuals combat the ‘PC Brigade’ (The Police, Local Councils, local Lefties and our MP’s) without being arrested and potentially messing up our own lives?
    I ‘get’ how our lives will be messed up anyway if we do nothing soon, but that doesn’t help us NOW.

    Any sensible suggestions, or are we too, too afraid of the ‘internet police’?

    The time to be a ‘Facebook Warrior’ will soon be over – y’all know this to be true!

    • LR says

      Oct 20, 2016 at 3:29 am

      Christian,

      In response to your post…

      When young men wanted to avoid going to the Vietnam War because they didn’t ‘believe’ in it, some of them ran to Canada. The gutsy ones didn’t run off anywhere and faced the penalty of going to prison.

  11. Michael says

    Oct 18, 2016 at 1:47 pm

    Our very existence as non-muslims is offensive to muslims. Shall we exterminate ourselves so as not to give offense?

    Apparently many Westerners have decided so. But this is not inevitable. We can do what is right. We can fight this wickedness on every possible front, and come what may, we can live or die with honor.

  12. Angemon says

    Oct 18, 2016 at 1:48 pm

    OK, they removed the cross because it was “offensive”. Fine. But they’re still called “Crusaders”, which is probably just as offensive, so they should probably change it. And they are a football team, with football being haram – better find a halal sport ASAP. Oh, and they’re non-muslims, so they might want to fix that. At what point would they say “enough is enough”?

    • Bill says

      Oct 18, 2016 at 2:06 pm

      I have the solution. The running club should simply change the name of the organization to the “Jihadis”. Adopt the crescent moon as a symbol and jettison the cross. The women in the club will race in the hijab as their uniform. No one will be offended and everyone will be safe. Perfect.

  13. DFD says

    Oct 18, 2016 at 2:02 pm

    “…Is there no one in the West who has any spine?…”

    NO!
    ====

    “….Does no one ever stop to wonder why people of earlier times named the club Crusaders to begin with, and was proud of the name?….”

    NO!
    ===

    Or are all the forefathers of these people dismissed as racist, bigoted “Islamophobes”?…..”

    WRONG! First comes ‘Nazis’, then racist, bigoted etc.

    Hmmmhhhh… I really think we should send all those bigots home – Oh dear, what am I saying?

    • Anne Smith says

      Oct 19, 2016 at 5:32 am

      Yes, there is spine in the West, but those who have it are too busy earning a living to become a politician. The Government is made up of spineless idiots who cannot do anything else.

      That is why we are in such a mess.

      • DFD says

        Oct 19, 2016 at 11:31 am

        That’s my girl/lady. Nice to know that somebody is in agreement.

  14. c matt says

    Oct 18, 2016 at 2:12 pm

    Irony of all ironies, my JESUIT alma mater still has its Crusader mascot. At least, last time i checked.

  15. John A. Marre says

    Oct 18, 2016 at 2:28 pm

    That’s the trend. Formerly Christian countries are getting rid of their Christian symbols and practices – to make the newly-arrived “guests” feel comfortable.

  16. miriamrove says

    Oct 18, 2016 at 3:00 pm

    Inch by inch, threats after threats…. they are taking over…m

  17. Carissa says

    Oct 18, 2016 at 3:01 pm

    A nation unwilling to fight for its culture will cease to be free. Europe rolled-over to the PC crowd long ago and is only just beginning to pay the price. Accordingly, the immigrant Islamic hordes will soon roll over Europe. Will the last native European please turn out the lights? After all, Islam only knows the Dark Ages.

    • Norell says

      Oct 19, 2016 at 6:49 pm

      Both France and Germany have around 5 million mussie. In 10 years that number will double. By then they will hold jobs in the Government, police and military. That will bring on the civil war.

      • James Wills says

        Oct 19, 2016 at 7:22 pm

        In the UK they can’t get them to join up they have been trying. They join ISIS

  18. Champ says

    Oct 18, 2016 at 3:05 pm

    Some “Crusaders” they are, eh?

    They’ve removed the cross? Ok now they need to remove Crusaders and replace it with “Cowards” …

    Cowards Athletic Club!

  19. Champ says

    Oct 18, 2016 at 3:20 pm

    “For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God.” — 1 Corinthians 1:18

  20. Mark A says

    Oct 18, 2016 at 3:57 pm

    Spineless people in the club and its administration.

    The article doesn’t say how long this club has been in existence. If it has been using the Crusaders name for any length of time it has abandoned its club history and heritage as well as Ireland’s western history and heritage.

    • James Wills says

      Oct 19, 2016 at 3:37 am

      It’s fairly young 1942.

      • gravenimage says

        Oct 19, 2016 at 10:28 am

        Thanks, James.

  21. clap says

    Oct 18, 2016 at 4:32 pm

    Where’s the IRA when you need it?

    • Michael O'Neill says

      Oct 19, 2016 at 1:41 am

      In bed with Hamas. As the passive partner.

  22. gravenimage says

    Oct 18, 2016 at 4:36 pm

    Ireland: Crusaders Athletic Club drops cross from its crest to avoid offending Muslims
    …………………………

    In that case, they better change their name, as well.

    And stop sponsoring women runners–who dare wear shorts:

    http://www.crusadersac.org/

    And stop sponsoring mixed gender running events.

    Oh, and drop out of the Dublin Marathon altogether–after all, pious Muslims bombed the Boston Marathon.

    And just shut down altogether…

    Or they could instead stand up for their proud heritage!

    Drop them a note–especially if you are Irish.

  23. common sense says

    Oct 18, 2016 at 4:40 pm

    Most marathoners are expected to wear the original cross crest. Its the PC leadership giving in again, just kick their Muslim arses once and they’ll run. There is plenty of fight in the Irish and just try taking the Guinness and whiskey away, that’ll shock the monkey for sure.
    Fargin Muslim Islamo- fascist scum are weak and worthless and everyone knows it.

  24. The Vilest of Creatures says

    Oct 18, 2016 at 4:45 pm

    “In 2009, the Middlesex Crusaders cricket club changed their name to the Middlesex Panthers after complaints from Jewish and Muslim communities about the link to the crusades”

    ‘Jewish’ community………………yeah, right.

  25. Mirren10 says

    Oct 18, 2016 at 4:53 pm

    Gutless wankers.

    • ChristianInDeed says

      Oct 18, 2016 at 7:08 pm

      Gotta love a keyboard warrior with no empathy toward the position the club find themselves in and no hint at a possible solution. Why do we attack those who are under attack themselves, those who need our help and support the most?

      Of course, we do know the reason and it will be for that reason why the Islamic onslaught may succeed. We need to band together to fight this and I, for one see little evidence of that happening in the West.

      • Mirren10 says

        Oct 18, 2016 at 7:32 pm

        ”Gotta love a keyboard warrior with no empathy toward the position the club find themselves in and no hint at a possible solution.”

        The solution is quite simple. **Stand up to them** **Defy them**. As Todd Beamer said; ”let’s roll”.

        I for one am sick to death of all this namby pamby coddling, and ’empathy’, and tears, candles, flowers and soggy teddy bears.

        Yes, we do need to band together; we need to band together with courage, determination, and refuse to be cowed.

        muslim scum do this because we roll over for them. Time to stop rolling over.

        • ChristianInDeed says

          Oct 18, 2016 at 8:33 pm

          I totally agree with you, don’t get me wrong, but if we are to stand up to them we must do it together.

          In this instance an athletic club’s website was hacked (twice) by persons unknown purporting to be from Islamic State and threatening messages sent to them; “The second attack pretty much wiped the site out.” What would YOU have them do – suffer more cyber attacks (& possibly worse) with NO help on offer from anyone else?

          I DO like your ‘simple solution’ to **Stand up to them** **Defy them**, I really do, but it isn’t you, nor I that has to bear the cost of future action. We need the support of the politicians (local and ruling) AND the police to stand any chance at all!

          Further, what this web page has done is deliberately left out the word ‘temporarily’; whilst a final decision has not yet been made subject to their annual AGM meeting. I guess it makes better headlines?!!

        • Mirren10 says

          Oct 18, 2016 at 9:06 pm

          ” What would YOU have them do – suffer more cyber attacks (& possibly worse) with NO help on offer from anyone else?”

          What I would have them do is to state, loudly and clearly, that they **refuse** to be intimidated, that their members will continue to wear crosses on their kit, , and they will continue to be called **Crusaders**.

          Notice this was a decision taken by the club officials, not the members.

          ”The decision to remove the cross from the crest caused major disquiet among members of the Dublin club, with some threatening to leave if the logo is changed.”

          There are always pusillanimous little jobsworths around who have no principles, no guts, and will do anything for a quiet life. In this case, I hope the rank and file members tell them to get stuffed, and continue to **flaunt** their kit with the crosses on.

          ”Further, what this web page has done is deliberately left out the word ‘temporarily’; whilst a final decision has not yet been made subject to their annual AGM meeting. I guess it makes better headlines?!!”

          What rubbish. It’s the Independent’s headline, and the word ”temporarily” is in the first paragraph.

          .
          ” … it was decided that as an interim measure and as a compromise to some views in the committee to temporarily suspend the use of the cross logo until the proposal could be put to the members at the AGM,” it added….”

          So the little jobsworths are still hoping to be allowed to roll over and present the neck. But from the sounds of it, the decent members won’t let them get away with it.

        • gravenimage says

          Oct 18, 2016 at 9:26 pm

          Hear, hear, Mirren!

          Appeasement makes no one safer.

        • Patti Pickerd says

          Oct 19, 2016 at 2:55 am

          Hear! Hear!

        • High Hopes says

          Oct 19, 2016 at 6:46 am

          http://identityireland.org/immigration.php
          Some form of resistance.

        • Mirren10 says

          Oct 19, 2016 at 7:05 am

          Excellent. Thanks for the link, High Hopes.

      • Peggy says

        Oct 19, 2016 at 9:20 pm

        The more they give in, the more will be demanded so yes, we should be critical of them.

  26. Carmel says

    Oct 18, 2016 at 5:08 pm

    For more informations :

    crusadersathleticsclub@gmail.com

    • gravenimage says

      Oct 18, 2016 at 6:51 pm

      Yes–contact them. Be polite, but make your message clear.

      • Carmel says

        Oct 18, 2016 at 10:33 pm

        Done .

  27. Darryl Kerney says

    Oct 18, 2016 at 5:12 pm

    first of all, i highly doubt that the Jewish community complained,
    but of course allah’s slaves are offended by the existence of anything not islamic….
    especially something that reminds them of defeat and is humiliating to them,
    and therefore so as not cause a fuss, submission is “the answer”.
    all of the homelands of my ancestry have become Dhimmi nations,
    and the country of my birth is now lead by a Useful Dhimmi,
    (i’m sure many of you will see why i used that phrase,)
    a socialist admirer of china’s “basic dictatorship” who’s father was buddies with soviet,
    red china and cuban communist dictators, AND who is now the PM that insists
    that islam can be compatible with Canada……under the banner of, of all things,
    “Diversity and Inclusion”,
    surely the blatant promotion of delusion is apparent here…..

    but, Canadians are in fact very tolerant, we will put up with stupidity,
    but only so far……
    but so far those of us who see the problem are still in the minority,
    i hope the rest don’t take too long,
    as history has recorded, we have stood up to the fiercest of foes and prevailed,
    with dignity, many places in Europe will still attest to that, but i worry that the,
    what to call it (?), liberal/socialist (?) virus has infected our population too much
    sometimes. i hope not, and if the public does finally wake up en mass, it will shed
    it’s complacency and politeness and awaken with the same determination and hard work that
    our armed forces and work force mustered in both world wars, and our younger people
    will realize what their fore-bearers actually fought for.

  28. Oh One More Thing says

    Oct 18, 2016 at 5:46 pm

    I’m going to put up a cross in my front yard.

    The Devil is leading the effort to rid the world of the cross. ISIS is just the latest medium.

    Anyone with eyes to see and ears to hear knows this.

  29. Mubarak says

    Oct 18, 2016 at 6:22 pm

    We can defend the cross as a symbol, but it is the preaching of the cross that matters:
    “For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.”

    • gravenimage says

      Oct 18, 2016 at 6:56 pm

      What part of “preaching of the cross” condones Muslim rape?

      Of course, it does not.

      But that has not stopped Mubarak from preaching just that here:

      Mubarak says
      September 11, 2016 at 5:29 am

      A culture that, as a protest against Muslim rapist, produces young, moronic males in miniskirts – https://youtu.be/lQIdhdQKDCE – doesn’t that culture deserve to be raped?

      Reply

      https://www.jihadwatch.org/2016/09/italy-expels-muslim-cleric-who-said-islam-fully-incompatible-with-italian-law#comment-1519434

  30. davej says

    Oct 18, 2016 at 6:23 pm

    “Just stay quiet and you’ll be okay” – Muhammed Atta to the hijacked plane’s doomed passengers.

    http://www.steynonline.com/6943/stay-quiet-and-youll-be-okay

  31. Spook89 says

    Oct 18, 2016 at 6:50 pm

    “For whoever is ashamed of Me and My words in this adulterous and sinful generation, the Son of Man will also be ashamed of him when He comes in His Father’s glory with the holy angels.” Mark 8:38

  32. Bradamante says

    Oct 18, 2016 at 6:54 pm

    As someone who chose as her pen name the name of a female Crusader (a mythical one, but real ones were in short supply in the history books), I’m appalled.

    • gravenimage says

      Oct 18, 2016 at 9:34 pm

      Hear, hear! And good to see you posting again, Bradamante.

    • Larry says

      Oct 18, 2016 at 9:57 pm

      Those works should be compulsory in Western schools. Not just for the brilliance of their story telling, but for the story they told.

      Go Orlando, get furious.

      • gravenimage says

        Oct 19, 2016 at 12:12 pm

        Agreed, Larry.

  33. Richie says

    Oct 18, 2016 at 7:40 pm

    What changes are Muslims making to not offend Christians?

  34. Dum Spiro says

    Oct 18, 2016 at 11:20 pm

    This was a good informational link on the defensive crusades: http://www.catholicbible101.com/thecrusades.htm

    Also search on your own for Dr. Bill Warner’s “Why we are afraid. A 1400 year secret” video which contains a dynamic battle map showing extensive prior Muslim aggression and the far fewer in number crusade defensive battles that occurred to counter it.

    We should never forget these lessons…
    — Spero

    • carol says

      Oct 20, 2016 at 1:05 am

      And the inadvertent message sent when our groups acquiesce to these typical “temper tantrum” deliberate, sabotaging demands is that the Crusaders WERE the “guilty” party.
      This is far from truth but some people are more interested in nursing grudges real or imagined.
      We’re getting past our naivety, but the problem is we’re too civilized, cautious, and well-balanced to stoop to their level. We have to get organized and elect decent, determined people. Hopefully Trump will get in and set a no-nonsense example.

  35. Rob says

    Oct 18, 2016 at 11:47 pm

    Multiculturalism is easy if one of the cultures progressively ignores its own roots.
    Isn’t football haram anyway?

  36. bostongal912 says

    Oct 19, 2016 at 3:41 am

    Yes by all means let’s bow down to the Muslims. If we told them to do the same because something about Islam offended us they’d have a fit! Really bugs me how all the non Muslims go out of their way not to upset Muslims. It’s getting ridiculous!

  37. Robert John Bennett says

    Oct 19, 2016 at 4:19 am

    So Islamization is coming to Ireland now too. The formerly Catholic nation will be Islamic in the coming decades.

    • gravenimage says

      Oct 19, 2016 at 12:16 pm

      Don’t counsel surrender–stand and fight!

  38. John Butler says

    Oct 19, 2016 at 4:27 am

    How about a white cross on a white background?

  39. Baucent says

    Oct 19, 2016 at 4:32 am

    “there was also a discussion by the organisation’s committee about changing its name due to the religious and historic association with the Christian crusades of the middle ages.”

    Those crusades ended about 800 years ago, sure taken the club a while to figure there is a problem.

    There are a number of sports teams that use the “Crusader” name, I’ve been wondering how long before they buckle change their name to avoid a “muslim backlash”

    For example there is a rugby team called the “Canterbury Crusaders”,

  40. Islam the religion of killers says

    Oct 19, 2016 at 4:53 am

    Irish wimps

    Stand up for your rights, stand up for the people that fought the Crusades so you could have freedom …

    The Crusader Cross is a symbol and you should wear it with honour

  41. EamonnDublin says

    Oct 19, 2016 at 4:56 am

    I am Irish, from Dublin where I live. Ever since 9/11, I wear a small metal gold cross on my lapel. I am proud to be a Christian. I am embarrassed and saddened by Crusaders Athletic Club.

    Éamonn, Dublin, Ireland.

    • gravenimage says

      Oct 19, 2016 at 12:18 pm

      Good for you, Éamonn! Let them know.

  42. GeorgeRomero says

    Oct 19, 2016 at 5:28 am

    We in New Zealand love our Crusaders rugby club and wont stand for any PC bullshit from winy muslim or leftist complaints.
    ‘CRUSADERS HELL YEAH!”
    http://crusaders.co.nz/

  43. GeorgeRomero says

    Oct 19, 2016 at 5:47 am

    Crusaders FOREVER!!!
    Hell Yeah!

    • LR says

      Oct 20, 2016 at 12:07 am

      George…I think you need to write the running club, and help them try to get their gumption back.

  44. moeped says

    Oct 19, 2016 at 7:19 am

    Crusades are something to be proud of. The world needs more Crusaders. Constantinople should revert to Christianity.

  45. Crusades Were Right! says

    Oct 19, 2016 at 7:35 am

    All through the Irish “Troubles” I used to hear those in positions of authority and influence constantly bleat about how important it was never to give in to terrorists (meaning the IRA, Irish nationalist forces seeking to end British rule in the Six Counties).

    But now it seems that all the terrorists have to do to get their way is to hack into a website.

    Seems the “boyos” were wasting their time with bullets and bombs – they should have been taking IT classes instead!

  46. Robert McKenna says

    Oct 19, 2016 at 8:39 am

    Either too much Poteen or not enough.
    What the bloody hell is wrong with these wimpy, rabbit scared, people.
    To do ANYTHING at all to keep from offending filthy muslims is actually sinful.
    The whining bunch of donkey diddlers will only find something else to moan about.
    Are these guys in the Crusaders group actually Irish ? They act like members of
    the English House of Lords. ………… “Mustent offend ! Oh, heavens sake’s, no .

  47. patriotliz says

    Oct 19, 2016 at 9:54 am

    Obvious example of Dhimmitude and submission to the unopposed Islamization of the West by totaliarian IslamoNazis. Crusades were a defensive action against the Muslim invaders in Middle East. What we need is a revival of the “Crusade.” IT’S I WHO IS OFFENDED BY MUSLIMS and their 1400 year war against ME the kafir.

    • Champ says

      Oct 19, 2016 at 11:16 am

      Great video!!

      Thank you, Patriotliz! 🙂

    • ernie says

      Oct 19, 2016 at 3:26 pm

      Dear Patriotliz ,thank you so much for this very educational video . Knowledge is power ! The right education / empowerment is what we need to survive , and thrive again . Again : thanks for sharing Patriotliz .

  48. Florida Jim says

    Oct 19, 2016 at 11:17 am

    Bite by bite the muslim python swallows it’s victims one bite at a time.

  49. Proud Canuck says

    Oct 19, 2016 at 1:30 pm

    The world has become weak!

  50. Greytigertx says

    Oct 19, 2016 at 2:23 pm

    They are sniveling pussys. Period, end of lesson.

  51. rappini says

    Oct 19, 2016 at 3:23 pm

    If Ireland is going to be that much of a candy A$$ then change your constitution, If you have one and ad the United States Article 2 (2nd amendment) which states, /a well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.

  52. ernie says

    Oct 19, 2016 at 4:06 pm

    Crusaders Athletic Club drops cross from its crest to avoid……… What message is this sending to our YOUTH ?! From an educational point of view this is a disaster . This decision is irresponsable . Don’t you have an IDENTITY , Crusaders ? Don’t you have RESPONSABILITIES ,especially towards your CHILDREN , Crusaders ? Do you have any HONOR or even DECENCY , Crusaders ? Have you lost it completely ,Crusaders ?

  53. LR says

    Oct 19, 2016 at 9:56 pm

    When some org. like this get’s a threat from purported IS, that’s a terrorist threat. Where is the Gov’t on this?

    If there is a threat, that is serious sh*t, and needs to be dealt with.

    The terrorists, or even terrorist posers obviously have all kinds of people scared to death…forgive the pun.

    It’s too bad we don’t seem to have the gumption the WW2 generation did.

  54. Richado says

    Oct 19, 2016 at 10:07 pm

    They will have to change their name to Dhimmi….

  55. bradley oleary says

    Oct 22, 2016 at 5:13 pm

    iv just writen a book that outlines how Muslims deny women equal rights,are allowed to beat their wives,forced family members to marry starting at age 10,force pre-teens to marry 30 and 40 yr old men,force children to be sexually blinded,keep woman segregated in church and in life, deny woman the right to divorce, you need to stand up for Muslim women rights not be scared of christ’s cross.

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