So you have to love Islam to be on the British Gymnastics team now? If Louis Smith had mocked Christianity, would he be facing suspension now? Why do Louis Smith’s opinions about Islam have anything to do with gymnastics at all?
Britain is finished.
“Olympic star Louis Smith may face British Gymnastics suspension after video of him appearing to mock Islam,” Daily Mail, October 10, 2016:
Olympic silver medallist Louis Smith could face suspension from the British Gymnastics programme after a controversial video which was leaked online.
Footage shows Smith and fellow gymnast Luke Carson appearing to mock Islam by laughing whilst pretending to pray and shouting ‘Allahu Akbar’.
British Gymnastics said it would investigate the incident and that the 27-year-old Smith and Carson, who retired last year, could face disciplinary action.
The governing body said: ‘British Gymnastics does not condone the mocking of any faith or religion and is appalled by such behaviours.
‘Gymnastics is an inclusive sport and we are proud of members who portray the inclusive values of British Gymnastics.
‘Members who break our code of conduct can face suspension or expulsion from our organisation. We will be investigating the behaviours reported.’
British gymnastics is enjoying an unprecedented surge in popularity after returning from Rio 2016 with seven medals including two historic golds for Smith’s team-mate and rival Max Whitlock.
Smith indicated in the wake of his silver medal win in Rio that he was planning to take at least a year out of the sport in order to pursue other ventures.
Smith subsequently posted a message on his official Twitter feed in which he apologised for the incident.
Smith wrote: ‘I am deeply sorry for the recent video you may have seen.
‘I am not defending myself, what I did was wrong. I want to say sorry for the deep offense (sic) I have caused and to my family who have also been affected by my thoughtless actions.
‘I recognise the severity of my mistake and hope it can be used as an example of how important it is to respect others at all times.
‘I have learnt a valuable life lesson and I wholeheartedly apologise.’…

Stephanie says
traitor hillary clinton & lame britain defends coward women beater http://quran.com/4/34 ‘beat them’
https://twitter.com/schnellmann_org/status/784434465795956736
Peter says
Clearly, he didn’t master the PC/MC Orwellian delusional gymnastics requirements.
Lucretius says
‘Gymnastics is an INCLUSIVE sport and we are proud of members who portray the INCLUSIVE values of British Gymnastics.’
“Inclusive” except for dissent.
Sog says
Interesting… If he “joined” the Muslim “faith” could he then not be banned? It’s a kind of thought experiment. I suspect is motivation for apology was in the form of self and family preservation, Lest the voluntary Islamist Enforcers would start to pop up.
Roy C says
Mr. Smith’s cringe-worthy apology to the PC thought police is beyond sickening but sure, self preservation comes first when you have a family. The really hideous aspect of all this is that had he ridiculed Christianity many on the lunatic left would be praising his “courage” for speaking out. Those of us who value true freedom of speech are steadily losing ground to the crackpot left. With Hilary poised to assume the white house it will only get worse. Put the blame squarely where it belongs – an astoundingly ignorant and apathetic American populace.
Carolyne says
The ancient Greek Olympics were a farce. They did not allow women to even watch. If one were caught watching, she was executed. Nothing to celebrate there. IMO it is a waste of time and money for a few egotistic young people who have developed some skill in a sport. It is an enormous money-maker for the country hosting it via sale of tickets, souvenirs, etc. and has nothing to do with fair play. Quite the opposite in fact. The Olympics were held in Berlin when Hitler was Chancellor in 1926. I don’t remember ever hearing about any Olympic protests of his speaking against Jews or about his butchering them. Why are yhey now so protective of the blood-thirsty Muslims?
Carolyne says
Hit wrong key. 1936.
JawsV says
Mock Islam! It deserves to be mocked!
Did you check out the poor Muslima suffering from “Islamophobia” on the debate last night? Oh boo-hoo whaaaaah! Trump and Clinton’s groveling was disgusting.
Caliph says
I think Trump handled it correctly. What would have happened if trump asked her about not having a male escort, or initiating conversation with kafir, or not having head covering, or if she was loyal to USA or to sharia? All things required by Islam, unless you are doing it for jihad… Speaking the real truth about Islam in that situation would only harm Trump.
If Jesus Christ himself where running against Hilary, those stupid idiotic liberal democrates would still vote for Hilary – after all the bible says in Daniel 2:21 “And he changeth the times and the seasons: he removeth kings, and setteth up kings: he giveth wisdom unto the wise, and knowledge to them that know understanding: ” so that means Jesus let ISIS and North Korea rise to power, right? And they would probably cause him of hating women for rebuking the woman at the well for being a liberal, free-mind woman.
I personally am not offended by that 2005 video of Trump. I do not, nor never, talked about women like that – but virtually all men I have worked with in corporate USA do. If you don’t you are eventually excluded from invitations to socialize and or be part of promotions or other dealings. Men like men they can understand, they like men that brag about their sexuality ( in various degrees ) if you don’t do that, they feel you are judging them, and they don’t like your company. It is just another form of competition, whether you are making it up or not. So women – I’d bet 90% of your husbands, boyfriends, lovers and sons ALL talk like Trump did ( to some degree ) from my point of view, Trump was just being competitive, and he likes to win.
And since you got me a bit off track, Trump’s Putin situation is laughable too. Trump does not drink alcohol. When dealing with Russians you drink, and drink a lot. Not drinking would be viewed as suspicious by Russians. So, Trump Will always have a “friendship gap” with Putin.
Custos Custodum says
Agree – Trump’s answer was masterful given that he was in a presidential debate, not a college presentation.
Trump’s response was clearly the fruit of long and intelligent consideration and work by his team. He placated the harridan with a rote acknowledgment about “Islamophobia” but then went on to restate the problems with IS.
le mouron rouge says
Caliph says, “So women – I’d bet 90% of your husbands, boyfriends, lovers and sons ALL talk like Trump did ( to some degree ) from my point of view, Trump was just being competitive, and he likes to win.”
I could tell stories from my former place of employment, but I won’t for fear of being accused of sensationalism or worse, lying.
The particular Office where I worked had approximately 250 people most of which were women, allow me to simply say – the things that I heard. 1st hand, not rumor or gossip, from the women in that office would make Trump and/or Clintons blush.
“If you tell the truth, you don’t have to remember anything.”
– Mark Twain
Carolyne says
I am a woman so of course I never hear men speak that way. However, I understand that locker room talk exists, that that was what Trump was doing and I am not offended. At least he did not rape women as Bill Clinton has done, nor did he take sexual advantage of a very young employee. That was offensive to me, not what Trump said.
Stephanie says
Prima donna No. 1, 9:12, 61-66 ‘… (65) “We were only talking idly and joking.
(66) Make no excuse; you have disbelieved after you had believed.’
➡️4:89 ‘… kill them wherever ye find them’
http://www.quran4theworld.com/translations/Hilali/9_61-90.htm
rubiconcrest says
I wish Trump had turned the tables on her and asked it she thinks Egyptian general Abdel Fattah el-Sisi is Islamophobic for his remarks about Islam. I wish he had said … Should we let potential jihadists cross the southern border? … and he could have followed up with ‘nor do I’, or perhaps do you think homosexuals or women who have been raped should be put to death as they are in Iran?, …. ‘ nor do I”. Should cartoonist who draw Mohammad be killed?, ‘nor do I’. This line of questioning and answers would have been a win for him as well.
Raja says
rubiconcrest , I like your thought provoking questions. Hope Trump or his team have made a note or two.
I guess Trump was in no position to turn the table on Hillary as he already was on the defensive being exposed by the video. Hopefully he can better his debate record in the last one.
Regards,
Carolyne says
And isn’t it strange that NBC has had that video for 11 years and chose to release it a couple of days before a Presidential debate? Does this say anything about which side the MSM is?
No Fear says
I invite all those who mock Islam to come to Australia. The UK has chosen a Sharia future.
VampireJack says
No we haven’t.
gravenimage says
I stand with all Britons who stand against Islam!
VampireJack says
They you stand with me, brother.
Islam will NOT win.
DAI says
Want to bet on that. I live in Wales and the voting public still vote overwhelmingly for either Labour, Conservative or Libs. Despite all the atrocities and terror they still vote them in. We are screwed because most people are spineless scum. I am beginning to hate my own people .Thats bad.
Jac says
Dai. What’s happened to the Welsh people! You normally hate the English so take that passion and direct it towards these insidious silent invaders, who use a god as an excuse for perpetrating real evil, instead of letting them gaslight you. You’re better than this.
Bindon Blood says
I think you find that Australia’s going down that route too. Thanks for the welcome though,but no where will be safe from Islam because all the West,including Australasia have decided that it is the future.
dumbledoresarmy says
“all the West,including Australasia have decided that it is the future.”
Really? Really?
Talk about defeatism and despair.
The last thing we need in this forum, right now, is people like you busy feeding the Dementors.
What we need, with the many, many, MANY people from all over the world who lob in here, quietly lurking and reading over our shoulders, is to 1/ inform – that is, warn them about the basics, basics, basics of Islam. and then 2/ ENCOURAGE.
They shouldn’t be *paralysed*.
They shouldn’t leave here in a state of absolute despair, miserably convinced that there is nothing to be done, nothing they can do, it’s all over, just sit in a corner and wait to be beheaded.
They need to be *galvanised*.
“For want of a nail the shoe was lost, for want of a shoe the horse was lost, for want of a horse the rider was lost…”.. I’m sure you know the rest of it.
*I* happen to think that amongst those who lurk and read here, every day, are those who can and will be (perhaps already are, if only they knew) that one nail that saves the shoe that saves the horse that saves the rider that saves the message that wins the battle that saves the *kingdom* of the West.
So: I want that unknown reader, who may never actually emerge from the shadows at the back of the room, but merely watches, listens, and learns, and makes up their mind, to *be* that nail. That shoe. That horse. That rider. That message. So the battles can be won, and not lost.
I don’t want to say or do anything that might just push them in the other direction: toward inaction, the paralysis of despair.
In that regard, I’m actually disappointed in Mr Spencer’s repeated iterations of “Britain is finished”.
Britain is in a bad way. But… finished? No. I think not. Not while some of the Britons that I know, or have heard from time to time in this forum, and elsewhere, still live and breathe.
DAI says
You`re talking fantasy right now. DO YOU SEE ANY RESISTANCE,ANYWHERE.
Damocles Junior says
Sorry 1, One of the first actions of our new PM (Turnbull)’s, this was about a year ago, was to apologise for the previous PM Tony Abbott’s hard line against Islam.
Sorry, 2 Visit many suburbs in South West Sydney, this was a pretty awful area at the best of time, bleak and treeless. It is now totally dominated by large mosques and Muslims, all in their medieval outfits, schoolgirls to their grandparents. It could be a streetscape straight out of the Middle East.
Sorry 3, We have draconian laws to prevent public criticism of Islam. Pauline Hanson and her One Nation Party want a ban on Islam but the media basically boycott her and the party.
I hope we are not doomed but it is not looking good. Alarmed Pig Farmer who often contributes to this blog would still be OK here in Oz at present, but as he say’s “Alarmed”. (So am I and many others)
gravenimage says
DJ, here is one American who applauded Tony Abbott’s generally clear-eyed view of Islam.
Australia is still saner than most of Europe. I was probably somewhat cocky about our own situation at one time–but after eight years of Obama I know that the whole of the West is in trouble. We have to stand together.
Dana says
Gravenimage, you are 100% correct. Most people that I know here in Canada have a slight concept of the trouble that we are in, but nobody seems willing to talk about it.
We are all in trouble, and most don’t seem to know it. Thank you, liberals and liberal controlled news media.
Damocles Junior says
Thank you Graven Image. Feedback on my posts is always appreciated. I did not watch much of the Hillary Trump debate even though it got saturation coverage here but I did notice Hillary apologising to and for Muslims. Apparently the only Muslim problem in the USA is due to web sites like this!!!
At least Trump MAY get the Western world thinking about the dangers of Islam but I am afraid the whole Presidential debate will just become a race o the bottom on sexual dalliance. (Which the media and most of the public simply love)
le mouron rouge says
Damocles Junior,
Excerpts from Joel Rosenberg’s blog: Some thoughts on a presidential campaign going from bad to worse to nightmarish. – https://flashtrafficblog.wordpress.com/
If at any time I declare concerning a nation or a kingdom, that I will pluck up and break down and destroy it,
and if that nation, concerning which I have spoken, turns from its evil, I will relent of the disaster that I intended to do to it.
And if at any time I declare concerning a nation or a kingdom that I will build and plant it,
and if it does evil in my sight, not listening to my voice, then I will relent of the good that I had intended to do to it.
– Jeremiah 18:7-10 (ESV)
But as darkness falls over America, as it is falling over so much of the world, I am growing weary. As the rich and powerful and corrupt seem to gain more riches and more power and grow more corrupt, I am growing weary. As I see injustice spreading like a cancer, and as I see so many people abandoning the faith and ignoring the Word of God and doing whatever is right in their own eyes, I am growing weary.
It is all foretold, of course. The ancient prophecies are coming to pass — all the apostasy, the corruption, the persecution and darkness that the Lord Jesus and the Apostles and the Hebrew prophets foretold about the “last days” — we’re seeing it all play out, just as the Word warned us ahead of time.
Consider just this passage and ask yourself if this doesn’t describe American culture and politics today? “But realize this, that in the last days difficult times will come. For men will be lovers of self, lovers of money, boastful, arrogant, revilers, disobedient to parents, ungrateful, unholy, unloving, irreconcilable, malicious gossips, without self-control, brutal, haters of good, treacherous, reckless, conceited, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, holding to a form of godliness, although they have denied its power; avoid such men as these.” (2 Timothy 3:1-5)
john spielman says
it’s NOT mocking muhammed and islam simply to tell the truth, but also muhammed is easily mocked because he was such a vile pervert
Caliph says
Remember that under the sharia, it is libel ( and punishable ) to say things that make someone look bad. Even if you are speaking the truth OR repeating another’s words OR reading from the Koran or Hadith.
gravenimage says
This is very true–it is known as “Ghiba”, and its translation as “slander” is not really accurate.
Johan elzinga says
How is it forbidden to mock anything that is not a person? Are we living in North Korea now? I was not aware of that, sorry, no one told me. Where should I buy that uniform, and can anyone mail me the things that I am allowed to say or think tomorrow? Please send me a list of books that are allowed this week, and did we pick a place where we should burn all other books?
Caliph says
If Islam has its way: if a book is not in agreement with the Koran then said book is to be burned, if said book agrees with the Koran burn It too since it is redundant. ( basically, if it not of Islamic origin, burn it )
There is Islamic precedent for such action. Boko haram’s name is based on such teachings, i.e. That western books and knowledge is haram.
KrazyKafir says
The cowardly dhimmi stooges are ensuring lots and lots of trouble down the road. England’s 5th column will demand more and more concessions, until they finally demand, from the dhimmis stooges, a large part of England to be carved out for them. It will be India and Serbia all over again.
Marty says
Well said.
He is a brave man.
Charli Main says
‘I recognise the severity of my mistake and hope it can be used as an example of how important it is to respect others at all times”
More cringe worthy grovelling from a cowed dhimini. Muslims chalking up another victory in their war to make infidels submit to their Muslim overlords.
Jack Diamond says
Apologetic contortions from a most bendable man. Now, he’ll probably be sent to a re-education camp for Islamophobia. If he wants to compete. Remember Louis, there is no fun in Islam. Even in Britain.
John A. Marre says
His crime is not bowing down and welcoming his replacements.
katherine says
Who are the officials on the British Gymnastics committee – are they also imams and muftis ? They may be in the wrong organization because, according to a far-eastern ayatollah female gymnasts are offending islam by wearing clothes ‘exposing their vaginae’ .
Obviously these British guardians of islamic morality are not doing their job because they negligently allowed all British athletes to wear body-suits exposing their genitals.If these scumbag ‘officials’ do not actively enforce the burkini uniform on the entire British team, they are simply allowing infidel gymnasts to mock their ultra-sensitive religion.
Then again where’s the link between a gymnast’s personal beliefs and his profession – after all their being non-muslim is already an offense to Moe.
Salome says
You can bet your bottom dollar that if they’d done a spoof of worship in the Church of England, nobody would have said they shouldn’t be mocking any religion.
gravenimage says
So true…
Carolyne says
I once went to a Christmas service at the Canterbury Cathedral and thought it was a spoof. Rowan Williams conducted the ceremony and the boy choir sang, mostly in Latin. At the end, the Archbishop marched up and down the aisles, in and out the doors, followed by a rag-tag group, some with wigs like lawyers wear in England, some women trotting along behind them chatting to each other and actually, it looked like a scene from Canterbury Tales. Maybe it was. But it didn’t look like any Christian service I had ever attended, although I understand that Williams had recently been inducted as a Druid. Maybe it was a Druid ceremony. Whatever it was, it looked like Saturday Night Live and I don’t think what this man did is any business of the Olympic Committee. But in may countries, free speech does not exist. It will be the same in the US if Hillary Clinton is positioned to pack the Supreme Court with left-wing Justices.
Salome says
Things have changed. I remember being in Britain in the mid-1980s and watching Not the Nine-O’Clock News. One item showed a crowd of Iranians praying, bums in air, and the voice-over reported something to the effect of: ‘Meanwhile in Tehran, the search continues for the Ayatollah Khomeini’s lost contact lens.’ Can’t find it online, but can find this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8iPgOBoqsaQ
gravenimage says
Yes–I remember that one. Very funny!
Salome says
Being an old fart has its advantages–we remember stuff.
dumbledoresarmy says
Yep. And that’s why the resistance against Islam has a lot of old war-horses in its ranks. Because we are old enough – some of us *just* barely old enough – to have read old books, seen old movies, things that predate the deluge of petrodollar-funded Islamoprop and Islampuffery in which the world has been drowning for decades.
Westman says
BG Standards Of Conduct:
Appendix 2
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“J) Make offensive or abusive remarks/jokes, derogatory comments, sexist or racist comments, suggestive comments, or using unnecessary aggression or intimidation, or carrying out unwelcome flirting, sexual advances or unnecessary touching, malicious gossip or calling people by offensive nicknames
k) Discriminating against an individual or group of people as a direct or indirect result of their gender, age, ethnic origin, religion, sexual orientation, disability or political persuasion.”
In reading the whole thing, It doesn’t take a genius to figure out the BG rules of conduct are intended to cover only athletes to athletes behavior and eliminate a criminal’s participation. If BG tries to blacklist this athlete it will be a dishonest distortion of their own rules.
Here is the BG page with the downloadable “Standards Of Conduct”: https://www.british-gymnastics.org/governance
Damocles Junior says
I re-read “1984” only about a year ago, all I can say that George Orwell was a visionary, yes his novel is set in the context of immediate post-war Britain but the real message is timeless. All this tripe is straight out of the Orwellian nightmare.
le mouron rouge says
Damocles Junior,
Good point.
Now it’s time to re-read Animal Farm.
“If the freedom of speech is taken away then dumb and silent we may be led, like sheep to the slaughter.”
– George Washington
Carolyne says
And it will be taken away if Hillary Clinton is elected. She will appoint justices to the Supreme Court who will disembowel the First and Second Amendments. We will be left speechless and unarmed.
It is Loretta Lynch’s dream and I believe Bill Clinton promised her the continuing post of Attorney General if Hillary Clinton is elected. The fix was in and the MSM is cutting its own throat by promoting Hillary Clinton., They will be the first to go.
le mouron rouge says
Carolyne,
The next President will also appoint Federal Judges which is presently left leaning. Court System.
http://www.uscourts.gov/faqs-federal-judges
https://www.supremecourt.gov/about/Circuit%20Map.pdf
Mubarak says
What about suspending a religion that mocks the whole world and especially its adherents by turning them into reciting parrots and mechanical puppets in service of a cruel puppet master.
revereridesagain says
But it’s a “FAITH”! Blind unquestioning belief must always be respected, especially if it happens to be Dark Ages Third World blind unquestioning belief. That’s why Islam can never be recast as the political ideology with Dark Ages Third World blind unquestioning belief tacked on that it really is, because that might actually be considered fair game. Then they’d have to think up a whole new reason to censor criticism of it.
mortimer says
If you suggest Islam isn’t the religion of peace…they’ll KILL BRITISH CITIZENS.
So the British government REWARDS the terrorists by shutting down free speech…EXACTLY what they want.
Islamization of the West is going ACCORDING TO THEIR PLAN!
Theresa May is STUPID! STUPID!
Keys says
Know who is boss by finding out who not to criticize.
Dov Berrol says
Where are the guys from Monty Python when we kuffar need them! We need a weekly “Let’s Mock Islam” comedy show on BBC right now! ?
Charli Main says
@ Dov
That will NEVER happen. The BBC is a bought and paid for arm of the Muslim propaganda machine in Britain.
There are more Muslim arse lickers in the BBC, per square inch, than anywhere else in Britain.
davej says
“I mildly mocked Islam because in my personal opinion it is both stupid and dangerous. That remains my opinion and I don’t apologize for it – it’s called Freedom of Speech”.
Caliph says
Agree.
Islam mocks all non-Muslims. If Muslims can’t take it, they should not dish it out.
Islam offends freedom, women’s rights, child rights, freedom of thought, animal rights, and others.
But not only does Islam offend, it also mandates that those that offend Islam should be killed.
Islam is indeed an insult to all of mankind.
Raja says
Agree Caliph, Islam sucks so does UK govt and most of West,oz included. HARDLY ANYONE FOR THE TRUTH.
thelastvirgingoat says
I saw a video recently of an old Muslim praying in the desert. Behind him two children dug out a little hole while he bowed and when he stood back up he fell on his ass. I hope those brave boy’s are still alive.
D J says
Fear is a good start. Next will come the question: ‘Why am I scared?’ Next they will understand and finally they will become angry and start to fight back.
Just readingthissite means most of us are well along the path of knowledge.
Thank you Robert. I would not have made it this far without your erudition.
As Churchill would say KBO.
Angemon says
“Inclusive” as in the leftist doublespeak version of “inclusive” – if you have any ideas, opinions or behaviours the “dear leaders” don’t approve of, you’re excluded.
Bad call. You should never, EVER apologize to that kind of people – even if you are in wrong. You should have played by their rules – you should have, implicitly or explicitly, accused them of not liking you because of the colour of your skin or your ethnicity/ancestry. Something along the lines of “it was a harmless joke that offended no one and which is being taken out of proportion by people who make a living by pretending to be offended. This is simply another instance where an ethnic minority person is being discriminated against for no apparent reason”.
Angemon says
Another suggestion: “I did nothing wrong. As an ethnic minority I’m used to being discriminated against, but this latest incident is simply outrageous. I’ll keep doing my best and placing my heart, sweat and effort in my passion – gymnastics – and ignore the bigots trying to drag me down, as I have always done”.
Mirren10 says
He should do another video mocking Christianity/Judaism, and if there is no outcry, (which I’m sure there wouldn’t be) demand to know **why not**.
But this sort of nauseating capitulation makes me so *angry*; the mohammedans don’t really have to do much to censor us, we’re so busy doing it to ourselves.
He should force a challenge in court, instead of falling over himself to grovel.
gravenimage says
Olympic star Louis Smith may face British Gymnastics suspension for video appearing to mock Islam
………………………….
Now you cannot mock Muslims screaming “Allahu Ackbar!”? Utter madness…
More:
‘I have learnt a valuable life lesson and I wholeheartedly apologise.’…
………………………….
What Louis Smith has learned, I’m afraid, is just how rife “political correctness” and pandering to bloody Islam has become.
John Marst says
We should consider it a duty to do whatever we can, no matter how insignificant, to help expose the psychotic Allah and his perverted and morally bankrupt “messenger” Muhammad.
I think growing numbers of people share the following sentiment with respect to Islam and devout Muslims, of which Islamic State produces the purest variant:
“They claim to know God, but by their actions they deny him. They are detestable, disobedient and unfit for doing anything good.” Titus 1:16
Carolyne says
You do realize, I hope, that the last sentence of your post could actually be part of the Koran as it preaches hatred for those unlike the people to whom it is addressed? We do not need religious bigotry to fight religious bigotry.
Islam is an anti-human philosophy. It preaches death to unbelievers and oppression to everyone else, even its own followers and especially women. I do not need a biblical quote to know this is wrong.
John Marst says
I understand your point. But in the New Testament, it is an admonition, like many similar admonitions.
In the Qur’an, it would be a rationale, and probably even an imperative, to commit murder.
I don’t actually need a biblical quote either since I am not religious. But it is a sentiment many people share with respect to the likes of Islamic State, which obviously is very religious.
Islam_Macht_Frei says
Well, the British government might be the least of his worries. Just ask Molly Norris.
gravenimage says
Grimly true.
billybob says
‘I am not defending myself, what I did was wrong.” I’m still trying to get my head around this. How is it “wrong”? I Googled the word…
Wrong…
1.) not correct or true.
– this applies to something like an answer on a test, so it can’t be wrong in this sense
2.) unjust, dishonest, or immoral.
– it certainly cannot be unjust or immoral to mock Islam, which itself is unjust or immoral
3.) act unjustly or dishonestly toward (someone).
– this cannot apply, because Islam is itself unjust and dishonest
I really can’t see what he did was wrong in any sense of the word. Perhaps it was insensitive, but “wrong”? Never! This guy needs to grow a pair and have some spine. He should not condemn his own honest expression as wrong when he instinctively does not have any respect for this religion, nor should he be expected to have any.
Ken says
If it is fair game to make fun of one religion then it must legal to make fun of all religion. If it is illegal to make fun of one religion then it must also be illegal to make fun of all religion.It’s time to stop the sellout.
Matthieu Baudin says
“…The governing body said: ‘British Gymnastics does not condone the mocking of any faith or religion and is appalled by such behaviours.
‘Gymnastics is an inclusive sport and we are proud of members who portray the inclusive values of British Gymnastics.
‘Members who break our code of conduct can face suspension or expulsion from our organisation. We will be investigating the behaviours reported.’…”
In other words, ‘we must all march to the same step and not deviate, at the threat of expulsion’. There is nothing remotely ‘inclusive’ about this big brother PC mantra; it is a gross imposition upon the right of an individual to live their own life, have their own attitudes and not be brow beaten by those policing current political fashion.
Karen says
Does mocking a religion constitute discrimination? It may be in bad taste, but it does nothing to damage an individual or group and their access to services, employment, education, finance, housing, etc.
Smith’s situation could be complicated by morals clauses in any endorsement deals he may sign, as many athletes do; he is not allowed to embarrass his sponsors. As such he voluntarily agrees to restrict his speech and other behaviors.
But In the end, he is a free man who owes no one reverence for their religious, political, social or philosophical beliefs.
Michael Poulin says
Seems like the only men left in the UK are soccer hooligans
Dacritic says
He’s young and is easily cowed into an apology. Then again, don’t we have someone Nazi Paikidze?
London has fallen, and the whole of the UK together with it.
Mubarak says
Try, however, to understand muslim sensitivity to mockery:
Muslims themselves are their own victims of the most cruel mockery ever perpetrated. Persuaded by a no-prophet to put their heads in the dust like an ostrich and their butts in the air five times a day for a no-God while parroting empty prayers might be the utmost for his lowest. Add to this the obligatory circulations around a black stone in Mecca, at least once a lifetime, while throwing stones at an invisible devil in order to be congratulated as Haji – i.e. the Kaaba-cube clown – and it should be enough for the mockery to reach its climax.
No wonder Muslims tend to react with transcendental rage when it is pointed out to them; the nonsens is too obvious and having succumbed to it so embarrassing that trying to shut up or indeed kill the seer who draws attention to it the only solution to stop the truth from spreading – and that might explain Louis Smith’s retraction and his expedient and fake apology.
Mazo says
Where is cravenmirage? Is cravenmirage going to claim Mubarak is a Muslim again?
gravenimage says
I said–as is abundantly clear to anyone who has followed his posting history–that Mubarak has many times lauded Muslims raping us.
Funny how Mazo–who has done nothing here but insult Infidels–is supposedly so intent on defending the ‘honor’ of an Infidel now.
Might it be because Mubarak has demanded that we “atone” for the supposed decadence of the West by inviting in hordes of Muslims to rape us and our children? Could be…
Mazo says
Cravenmirage claimed Muslims were coreligionists of Mubarak.
No where did Mubarak say that anyone should be invited to rape anyone. Mubarak attacked hedonisim, feminism, homosexuality and called for a return to Christianity just like Kepha has.
Mubarak says
Dear GI,
I am simply promoting an unoriginal analogy taken from OT: When the ancient Israel turned away from God in apostasy God in turn turned their enemies loose on them and left their house to them desolate.
“God is not mocked”! When the grace of God, as revealed in the gospels, is disparaged and even mocked it has consequences. If we reject grace, law is the inevitable replacement and Islam is eminently a religion of law and its anti-christian theology a replacement theology – and I can assure you, that I am more appalled by Shariah and the complimentary Muslim barbarism and its spread in the West than “the decadence of the West”.
But Islam is not fought and overcome by pride parades, slutwalks, public nudity, pornography, the sameness and “equality” of the sexes, feminism and abortions – that’s a surrender and will only bring more Islam to the West.
And if we don’t believe in the providence of the biblical God consider nature: Nature seems to favor the Muslim culture. When the death cult, i.e. the infertility complex or industry in the West – Feminism with its corollaries abortion, one child or no childeren policy and homosexuality – meets with Muslims, “breeding like mosquitoes”, the outcome is evident; it spells victory for Islam.
Crusades Were Right! says
“Britain is finished”
Stop saying that!
Carolyne says
Stop saying “Britain is finished?” Isn’t that the same as saying “stop criticizing Islam?” The point being that a free person may say anything they wish which doesn’t promote the violent overthrow of the government. I, too, believe Britain is finished if, and it is a big if, the British do not start objecting en masse to the government installing laws against free speech, whether you like that speech or not.
The United States will soon face the same if Hillary Clinton is elected president. I hope my countrymen, who have not yet been disarmed, will object–en masse.