Two fundamentally different visions of America clash on stage for the last time. My latest in FrontPage:
The peculiar self-contradiction of Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign was on abundant display Wednesday night during her third and last presidential debate with Donald Trump: running as the anointed heir of a two-term president in whose administration she served, she has to maintain both that everything is going great and that the nation in general is in drastic need of repair. Above all, amid all the bluster and platitudes, she and Trump took up opposing sides on virtually all the major fault lines of contemporary America, emphasizing yet again that this election is for all the marbles: either the U.S. will continue on the road to socialist internationalism, or recover a sense of itself. This may be the last time that question is at stake in a presidential election.
“What kind of country are we going to be?,” Hillary Clinton asked near the beginning of the debate, and that indeed was the question. The Supreme Court, she told us, needs to stand on the side of the American people, not on side of the wealthy. What would a Supreme Court that stood on the side of the people, rather than the plutocrats, look like? Why, of course it would be one that said no to Citizen’s United, and yes to Marriage Equality and Roe vs. Wade: as far as Hillary Clinton is concerned, anyone who stands for traditional values is simply not of the people, or any people she has any interest in representing. Nor, presumably, among Hillary Clinton’s people are those who respect and want to uphold the Second Amendment – in which she firmly believes, she assured us Wednesday night, as long as it is gutted of any actual substance.
Trump, on the other hand, affirmed that he would appoint justices who would interpret the Constitution as written, repeal Roe v. Wade and return the abortion question to the states, and protect gun rights. Chicago, he pointed out, has some of the nation’s toughest gun laws, yet also has more gun violence than any other city. This was a telling point; in response, Clinton promised she would give us both the Second Amendment and “reform,” but did not explain how this sleight-of-hand would be performed.
The situation was the same when the topic turned to immigration. Trump spoke of the need for strong borders, pointing to the drugs pouring into the country over the Mexican border as the reason why a border wall was needed, and declaring: “We have no country if we have no border.” In response, Clinton spoke about not wanting to send illegal immigrant parents away from their children who are citizens – an answer that may have tugged at Leftist heartstrings, but left the drug problem unaddressed.
Clinton danced all night. When moderator Chris Wallace quoted her earlier statement saying she wanted open borders, Clinton turned the question into one about Wikileaks, and pressed Trump over whether he would condemn Russia, which she insisted was behind the leaks, for meddling in an American election. “That was a great pivot,” Trump noted drily, “from her wanting open borders.”
Once Clinton had brought up Putin, Trump bored in, charging: “She doesn’t like Putin because Putin has outsmarted her in every way.” In response, Clinton promised to work with our allies all over the world. That highlighted her campaign’s nagging contradiction again, leaving unanswered the question of why the world is so aflame today after eight years of Barack Obama, who came into office with similar promises to mend America’s relationships with friends and foes alike globally – promises that were taken so seriously that he won the Nobel Peace Prize before he had done anything at all. (What’s left to give President Hillary Clinton as she begins her efforts to bring peace to our troubled world? Sainthood?)
There was so much that we had heard before. Clinton promised to make the rich pay their fair share of taxes. Some enterprising and independent-minded historian should research the history of that shopworn phrase, used by so very many Democratic presidential candidates before Hillary. Who was the first to use it? Certainly not Barack Obama, although he made the same promise, or John Kerry or Al Gore, who did as well, or Hillary’s husband. Was it Mike Dukakis? Jimmy Carter? Harry Truman? Woodrow Wilson? Grover Cleveland? How far back does this phrase go, and why, after eight years of Barack Obama, are the poor soaked rich still not paying their fair share? If he couldn’t make them pony up, how will Hillary accomplish it?
That was the rub, on all the issues Trump and Clinton discussed Wednesday evening. She pledged to eradicate the Islamic State, whereupon Trump noted that it was the vacuum created in Iraq by the precipitous Obama/Clinton withdrawal from Iraq that led to the creation of ISIS in the first place. Trump pointed out that the U.S. is pouring money into Syrian rebel groups of doubtful reliability, and noted that if they overthrow Assad (“and he is a bad guy”), Syria might end up with a regime’s worse than Assad, and noted that the chaos in Syria has “caused the great migration, the great Trojan Horse,” with “many ISIS-aligned” coming into the U.S. “Thanks a lot Hillary,” he said acidly, “thanks a lot for doing a great job.”
Indeed. If she didn’t get all this right when she was Secretary of State, how can Americans be confident she will get it right the next time, particularly when all she is offering is more of the same, more of the same failed foreign policies that have gotten the world into the fix it’s in today — with the centerpiece being the denial of the nature, magnitude and motivating ideology of the jihad threat?
That is what is ultimately the choice Americans face: more of the same, or a drastic change of course. If Hillary Clinton is elected president, and the mainstream media is in a frenzy to do all it can to make sure that she is, Americans will at very least know what they’re getting, and a great many of them will applaud it. Ultimately, however, politically correct fantasies will collapse under the weight of reality. If that happens while she is president, there will be more of the same in another way as well: many Americans who applauded her platitudes, generalities, and appeals to sentiment on Wednesday night will be looking for ways to blame the Republicans.

David says
Thanks for this Debate assessment. That stupid smirk that is always on the face of Mrs. Clinton is so off putting that I’ve been unable to sit still and stare at it for more then a few seconds at a time!
I know, Mr. Trump is not the perfect choice for our next President.
But, I wouldn’t trust CROOKED GRANNY CLINTON to serve as “Clean-up person” at the Doggie Park!
(That’s the position just below Dog Catcher!)
I’m praying that sanity prevails and the fates spare us another Clinton in the White House.
Mong says
I watched all three debates and have been following this electoral process thoroughly and I’m very worried that the American people will vote Clinton into office. I think America was the greatest country on earth and I’m very worried that Clinton will continue with the destruction of a once great nation. The American people don’t seem to realise what’s at stake here. Obviously many do but I’m worried that the stupid masses, coupled with electoral fraud, will win this. If Clinton gets in, the West is facing a colossal disaster and I don’t think America will recover given her immigration plans. If Clinton gets in, American will be no more and then who do the rest of us look to for strength in these times?
Waiting says
“If Clinton gets in, American will be no more and then who do the rest of us look to for strength in these times?”
Cometh the hour.
ScottM says
I cant see how its not going to end very badly for all of us. Muslims and socialists against the rest of us.
Yokel says
And it seems that everywhere in the world it has been engineered one way or another to be muslims and socialists against the rest.
Bronson says
The American people voted (Mu)barack Hussein Obama into office just 7 years after 9/11 and then again 4 years later knowing full well what his agenda was, so it is more than likely that they will continue the insanity and vote Clinton into office.
Rev g says
And every time a muslim or 2 go out and commit an atrocity here in the USA we get reminded how they are not representative of all muslims. Then we are encouraged to go out and hug a muslim, give them special treatment, special accommodations, since they aren’t attacking us (yet).
Mark Swan says
This false sense of security, will come crashing in around our ears soon enough.
hiding says
Globalism is Dangerous. Brexit knows it. Brussels’ Mischaël Modrikamen knows it. USA needs to vote Trump to defeat it. Plea from Brussels: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmvcx5jD5qA please pass along!
Rob Porter says
Mong, as a foreigner who for decades admired the U.S. I share all your fears for America. Having collectively abandoned the values that made it great, Americans have lost their way and are on a path to self-destruction not just through lack of wisdom, but through ignorance and gross stupidity – this process accelerated by a rotten media!. Regarding Obama – which applies to Hillary Clinton (so obviously a rotten individual) – this is what a Czech newspaper, Prager Zeitungon, published a few years ago:
“The danger to America is not just Barack Obama, but a citizenry capable of entrusting a man like him with the Presidency. It will be far easier to limit and undo the follies of an Obama presidency than to restore the necessary common sense and good judgment to a depraved electorate willing to have such a man for their president.
The problem is much deeper and far more serious than Mr. Obama, who is a mere symptom of what ails America. Blaming the prince of the fools should not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that made him their prince.
The Republic can survive a Barack Obama, who is, after all, merely a fool. It is less likely to survive a multitude of fools, such as those who made him their president.”
bernie says
Hillary says that she’s going to stop any potential terrorists and criminals from coming into the U.S.. How the HECK is she going to do that, especially if she wants to increase Middle Eastern immigration by 550-600 percent, and have an open-borders policy with Latin America? Even hugely Muslim nations like Turkey are having difficulty keeping out jihadi terrorists, so how does she propose to do that for the United States?
Another issue is relatively “moderate” Muslim immigrants who don’t respect kuffars, who want to replace the U.S. Constitution with Sharia law, as well as drug cartels and Salvadoran gangs that will freely enter the U.S. with open borders, if Hilliary has her way.
Oliver says
I do not thgink that ANYONE would be THE PERFECT CANDIDATE-for a majority of the people.
IF Moses and jesus were to run (together-or, jesus and Moses-if one prefers)- there would be people complaining about this, that oir the otehr thing.
NO CANDIDATE IS PERFECT. They are, after all, huiman.
And, one can garee with some of the postions of each, or many of one- but not all. My views
Peter Brock says
Keep all eyes on the International Criminal Court…
They’ll be dragging American tourists out of foreign airports and into The Hague.
Hillary has already said she’s behind full American membership in the ICC…
Angemon says
And seeing what the course is, a drastic change into the unknown will very difficulty mean something worse.
Peter Ahlskog says
What Kind of Country Are US Going to Be? Changed. Erased. Just like Europe.
The future Clinton-America is around 2020 going to be like in today’s France, Belgium, Netherlands, Austria, Switzerland, Denmark and Sweden. USA will also become a country that is held hostage by a dangerous minority of 500,000-a million aggressive Medina Muslim jihadists, who see us as dirty infidels. Even if you have killed all Isil-terrorists, you are going to loose your country sooner or later with an open border policy.
The majority of your Muslims are going to look the other way when this minority of a pure evil ideology created in Medina by a barbaric, and compared with the Mekka-years, dangerous “prophet”, with an ideology instead of a religion, attack you both in a planned way and randomly.
This Jihadi Salafists will express a racism against Afro-Americans you can’t even imagine. In Morocco, Tunis, Libya, Algeria, Egypt, Sudan, Yemen and all countries with a majority of light-skinned Muslims the school teachers open the windows in the classrooms because they say “female black students smell so bad from “between their legs”, that it’s unable to breathe the air in the classroom”. You black will be called all dirty names you can imagine (Al-Jazeera reportage Oct 20).
You will all, white and black Americans be classified by the Medina Islam followers as dirty kafirs, second or third class citizens who they have the right to kill. You will be confronted with people with an ideology which makes them completely unafraid for your police and prisons. They will establish parallel societies inside the US, no go-zones like the suburbs of Marseilles, Paris, Nice, Brussels, Amsterdam, Hague, Berlin, Hamburg, Munich, Barcelona, Rome, Milan, Torino, Roskilde, Copenhagen, Malmö, Göteborg, Boras, Stockholm…
They see raping your women and attacking your police and bombing your communications as a way to step by step destabilize your country. The most radical ones are not the new refugees, but the second and third generation of Muslims born in US. Many refugees will be terrorists and criminals, but the largest problem is that around 2/3 of the refugees have grave mental issues that they are dangerous because of all wars they have suffered. (Al-Jazeera, same reportage).
Don McKellar says
This was a great debate. Trump was finally firing on all cylinders and wouldn’t take the baits / distractions that Hillary kept trying to throw out there to try and derail the issues that should be discussed at this debate. She, of course, wants the spotlight kept off her and her incompetence and her sinister agenda. Didn’t happen this time. The looks on her face gave away what torture this was for her. And every time she regained a sense of where she was she put on that forced smile that looked so strained and fake it was really painful to look at.
jewdog says
Recently, I listened to Trump answering a question about Putin in which Russia’s actions in Ukraine and alliance with Iran were raised, but Trump’s response merely praised Putin. I could never betray Israel, or my family in Ukraine by voting for Trump.
As for abortion, it may be instructive to look at Israel, where that is a non-issue, thanks to a compromise between seculars and the religious: Abortion is restricted to four criteria (which are often met by contrivance), but the government sponsors volunteers who make private appeals to women’s consciences. It is claimed that the latter approach has prevented 60,000 abortions. Why can’t we do something similar? The legal/enforcement approach has proven unpopular and fruitless. Politically, it’s a loser.
As for guns, the US has many more gun owners than most Western countries, and many more gun murders. Sure, guns can save lives in some situations – my cousin successfully fought off a robber with a gun, but guns are too often used by terrorists and crazies. That is not a winning issue either.
Conservatives do have a winning issue in border security and honesty about Islam, but Trump has muddied things through unsubstantiated accusations that the Mexican government purposely sends us criminals. On Islam, he has failed to discuss the specifics of Sharia adequately, especially in regards to connecting blasphemy laws with Hillary’s collaboration in suppressing free speech in relation to Benghazi, Garland, the OIC and her general refusal to criticize Islam.
Of all the Republican choices, flaky Trump is by far the worst, and thanks to him, the Republicans will probably lose the White House again. I’m going to write in Pence.
Daniel Triplett says
Writing in Pence means you’re voting for Hillary. Don’t be naive.
I made the same mistake in 92 by voting for Perot, a stupid mistake I’ll always regret.
And seriously, why do Jews keep believing Democrats are your friends? Do you seriously think Obama has been a friend and ally of Israel and Netanyahu?
Come on, Jews allegedly have higher IQs than the rest of us. What gives?
Rev g says
Yep, writing in will help Muslim brotherhood friend Hillary, and her connected assistant Human Abedin, take the election. So much good news there for jews!
ScottM says
From what I can see – Trump cannot win. The cliton administration will be especially hell for Israel. She and her muslim girlfriend will finish whatever is left of the relationship and will join in with the UN and the EU to bastardise Israel – and it will have nothing to do with Bibi although he will get blamed – they just hate Israel – period. Its going to get very, very nasty indeed.
Rev g says
Trump can win.
Mong says
Come on, he’s failed to discuss “the specifics of Sharia”? There should be no discussion of Sharia at all. It’s a foreign, hostile political system which merits no discusion. America needs to be America, for America and the rest of us.
Mark Swan says
Anyone who wants the stealth Jihad, which is by far the most dangerous, to accelerate,
will not vote for Mr. Trump.
Stumble Bum, or what have you, He offers the only chance to start these stealth Jihads
to scurrying. They are embedded and thickly positioned to cause problems which our Nation
has never imagined could happen. The present Administration has done so much to allow
this, that the Nation can not survive, even one term with Mrs. Clinton and Her Administration.
Recall, from the Muslim Brotherhood Explanatory Memorandum:
“The process of settlement is a ‘Civilization-Jihadist Process’ with all the word means. The Ikhwan [Muslim Brotherhood] must understand that their work in America is a kind of grand jihad in eliminating and destroying the Western civilization from within and “sabotaging” its miserable house by their hands and the hands of the believers so that it is eliminated and God’s religion is made victorious over all other religions.”
Rev g says
Pushing gays off buildings? Poor treatment of women?
What other American political figure dares raise such points about our “friends”?
Mark Swan says
That’s right Rev g, even in the controlled debate, He managed to get that in.
ScottM says
Nobody cares – they only have eyes and ears for her. They dont care that she has been involved in scandal-after-scandal.
She has grabbed America and the world by the pussy and she can do whatever she wants…
Rev g says
Such optimism.
Oliver says
RE: Guns and crime- do you think criminals will turn in their guns?
And Israel-do you think that Clinton, WITH A MUSLIM FORIEGN AFFAIRS ADVISOR- will be more pro-Israel then Obama has been?
As for Russia– WHAT ABOUT CLINTON’S BACKERS WHO ARE LOBBYISTS FOR A RUSSIAN (GOVN.) CONTROLELD BANK, AND large fundraisers for Clinton?
And NO candidate (other than Trump) raised issues about ILLEGAL immigration, crime, etc.
Western Canadian says
The staggering levels of stupidity and ignorance re: your comments on guns alone, is a perfect example of a totally worthless post.
Rev g says
On the anchor baby issue, we are in no way favoring separating families….take the child with you when you leave. The parents are foreign citizens, surely that confers citizenship upon the child!
If the illegal action of the parents was bank robbery instead of border crossing would people be against imprisoning the offenders?
Daniel Triplett says
I’m with you.
The Founding Fathers never intended for Anchor Babies to be citizens. It wasn’t until a douche on SCOTUS 1982 named Brennan slipped a footnote into an opinion that’s given us the catastrophe we have today.
http://humanevents.com/2010/08/04/justice-brennans-footnote-gave-us-anchor-babies/
This can and must be reversed.
Mark Swan says
Daniel Triplett, thanks for the link, it is a good read.
Daniel Triplett says
Happy to contribute Mark.
I enjoy learning from your posts too. Stay strong Brother.
Oliver says
I think the issue is (or could be) a bit more confusing. A case study-of a person that I know.
About 25+ years ago, ( this man, with about a 5th grade education but very strong- relevant)- is married to a woman with dual citizenship (US &Mexico). He is a Mexican national.
He got a green card, and a Social Security number. He obtained a job at a nursing home, ( and learned English-fluently-speaking, reading and writing). The marriage was not working out. He and his wife split.
Their religion forbids divorced.
He met another woman. They moved in with each other. Had three children.
IN OVER TWENTY FIVE YEARS-HE RECEIVED ONE-ONE- TRAFFIC TICKET- at 3 AM- did nto stop long enough at a stop sign.
Paid taxes from his job. (Same job, same nursing home) Coached little league baseball.
NURSING HOME NEVER TOLD HIM THAT HE AHD TO RENEW HIS GREEN CARD. INS ( frerunner of Homeland Security handling immigration) never called him. FOR OVER 25 YEARS.
then suddenly, he was deported- as “illegal”.
I guess, had he raped or kileld people, he would have been left alone.
But, being a good citizen-even if not a citizen- he had to go.
( and, he never collected welfare; food stamps; or any othe rbenefits). (Never a complaint against him from his job).
Rev g says
I am certain a religion which forbids divorce also forbids that married man from cohabitation and fathering children with other women.
Another red herring.
Rev g says
Also, knowing people, even dating and cohabiting with such persons, not knowing your green card needs renewal is sheer stupidity.
Rev g says
Obviously, knowing and having dated and lived with persons with green cards, my error.
Michael Warden says
http://www.britainfirst.org/what-a-joke-calais-jungle-boy-who-made-silly-lily-cry-has-a-father-who-is-an-ex-islamist-fighter-video/
Dom107 says
I am glad I don’t have a vote in the USA elections ! I was going to say it is a choice between “dumb and dumber” but that would be wrong because these two are the most cunning individuals that the American public have ever had to make a choice.
Hillary has been caught out lying on more than one occasion.I don’t like her stance on abortion(strange the way people who are in favor of killing the unborn child use euphemisms like “women’s choice” Its their body etc etc and never say” I want to murder my unborn child as it is inconvenient for me to have he/she due to my negligence in getting pregnant” Certainly aborting a nine month pregnancy is murder under another name.
The recent record of the Obama presidency is not good especially in relation to the Middle East although I can understand why he wanted to get out of Iraq and could not have anticipated the rise and power of Daesch. No one did.They seem to have come out of nowhere and the Iraqui Army and government were frankly pathetic.
The point about Trump not paying any taxes was answered by Trump by saying the Obama Presidency and Government of which Hilary was a member should have changed the law to prevent tax avoidance.This is true and applies around the World enabling the big corporations to pay hardly any tax at all.I have never heard a reason why government allow this to happen.Perhaps the threat to move their business elsewhere as in Ireland is the reason.
Immigration from Muslim countries I agree with Trump on.
Hilary accused Trump of buddying up to Putin and not being tough on Assad.Frankly I think that the West should have learnt its lesson by now that trying to overthrow dictatorships in the Middle East only produces another dictatorship if successful and probably an extreme Islamic one or total chaos and war.We also need to have a good relationship with Putin and some agreement about the reality of hegemony needs to be reached
Despite the many agreements I have with Trump he did make a lot of unsubstantiated personal accusations against Hilary and the Clintons and it would be a very big risk to have him as President especially if his admiration for Putin turned to hatred and he had his finger on the nuclear button
Hilary has vast experience now and you can be sure a Clinton Presidency will filter all the issues through its brain before taking dangerous actions like going to war.
I fear Trump would act precipitously and make mistake that would end civilisation as we know it.
So if I had a vote, to be on the safer side I would vote for Hilary !
Daniel Triplett says
We need to ally with Russia, and we’re not going to apostatize 1.6 Billion Muslims without first earning their fear and respect with the judicious use of nuclear weapons.
Nukes don’t scare anyone unless you’re willing to use them once in a while.
Daniel Triplett says
If you have a better strategy THAT WILL WORK, ending forever the Islamic threat on Earth, please share it:
“Total War: Extinguishing Islam from Earth” @dantriplett https://medium.com/@dantriplett/islamic-jihad-is-total-war-for-all-marbles-6c858098b76e
davej says
A very sober and accurate description of Islam. This patient Supremacist ideology is indeed the greatest threat to the civilized world since the Nazis, actually a greater and more insidious threat. It is literally a war for all the marbles and we must recognize this. They will not be deterred, reformed or assimilated – ever. ISIS is only one of many serpent heads full of the same ideas.
There are more than enough grounds for criminalizing Islam and banning the Koran, only our cowardice and blindness are holding us back. But given the determined goals and successful tactics of the Ummah .we will have to confront them sooner or later. We should summon up the courage and will to do it now rather than wait while we are further invaded and compromised.
Once they have nukes they will use them against us, the Cold War strategy of mutually assured destruction means nothing to them – suicide bombers who predict and welcome Armageddon.
Daniel Triplett says
Excellent assessment davej.
This is a nuclear war now. You’re exactly right; MAD only works with people who love their children and want to protect them as we do with ours.
Muslims proudly murder their own children to please Allah, and honor-kill their daughters for the smallest of perceived slights.
Pakistan has 130 warheads, but enough fissible material for 200. N Korea has 10, they now know how to launch missles from submerged submarines, and they work closely with Iran. Intel analysts believe Iran already has at least one warhead. They’re just waiting to amass dozens of them and perfect their ICBM technology before launching Armageddon. But they will use them; no doubt about it. Just ask them. They promise to kill us with them. In short time, the Ummah will have 400 – 500 nuclear warheads.
When someone is pointing a loaded gun at you, you don’t need to wait for him to pull the trigger before killing him first.
The time is here.
We must strike first, with the little time left we still hold the advantage. Or, we could be stupid about it and wait for Tel Aviv, Manhattan, or DC to get vaped first. Either way, someone’s getting nuked.
The scale and scope of this conflict is WAY too big for a conventional military solution now. We neither have the military, money, nor the will to invade and occupy 57 Muslim countries indefinitely.
After 15 years, Afghanistan is a worse, more dangerous place now than when we first set foot there. What we’re doing isn’t working. And that’s just 1 of the 57 countries. It’s time for the big guns.
And we need to call out Islam as the criminal enterprise it is, instead of pretending it’s a great and noble religion of peace deserving of our Constitutional protections and Worldwide reverence.
No one could start Islam today, and Muhammad would be on Death Row.
If our grandfathers had atomic weapons on 7DEC1941, they would’ve used them on 8DEC1941. They weren’t stupid. We’d best develop the stomach and will to do the same, versus arrogantly believing we’re smarter and morally superior than they.
davej says
So the problem becomes: If we realistically recognize that Islam is inherently Satanically Evil, un-reformable, Supremacist and the greatest threat to Civilization we have ever known – what then? Ban the burkini? Hand out “Don’t rape me” bracelets?
It does not appear that there is any appetite for resistance, only appeasement. So yes, it will probably take a nuclear terror strike directly on the White House or Congress before we respond. Or maybe even that won’t be enough – after all they attacked the Pentagon 15 years ago, killing 125, and we’re still confused about Islam.
Oliver says
As Trump said before, about Hillary Clinton’s experience. (PARAPHRASED) YES, SHE HAS HAD A LOIT OF EXPERIENC EIN THE MIDDLE EAST, AND IT HHAS ALL AHD DISASTROUS RESULTS.
As to dumb & dumber– Mr. Trump built SOME 11 OR 12 DIFFERENT (UNRELATED) BUSINESSES, and made money in all.
Clinton, when left the WH claimed to be ” broke” and in debt some 5 or 6 million dollars. No busiesses, etc and a net worth of over $100 million?
Extremely careless?
Rev g says
And all that cash made while a politician?
Western Canadian says
No one who has examined hillarys record, could utter the utter slop and drivel that you so stupidity posted. She is a vile, vicious and hate filled monster. And those are her good points.
Anne Smith says
Do women have a right to choose under Sharia? What is Hillary’s message on that? Her close aide, Huma Abedin has a mother and father who are both keen on Sharia ruling the world. Where does Hillary stand on this? Why aren’t the Trump brigade forcing her out into the open on these issues?
Carolyne says
Yes, Hillary Clinton has vast experience—at failure. It is her doing that the Middle East is aflame and that our enemies have had access to our secrets if not through emails, by direct exposure through her best friend.
Ed Lee says
If Hillary Clinton is elected, she will be the last president of the United States. Her plans to destroy the First and Second Amendments, plus her “vision” on health care will split the country.
davej says
The biggest takeaway from the debate seems to be the “shock” that Trump might question the validity of the election process and refused to rule that out. Given that the election has not yet taken place it seems unfair to force him to forbear that possibility. Remember the last time the US had a close election result we ended up with the Supreme Court ruling out a recount and arguably the wrong candidate appointed.
That said, Trump is still a creepy inarticulate imbecile who had an opportunity to seriously challenge the whole Liberal/PC facade, the victory of the 1% and the disaster of Muslim immigration. But he was unable to mount a solid argument and instead wasted our time with his egotistical, juvenile and petty taunts.
Thus has he delivered us into the hands of the more and worse of the same party.
God save America.
JawsV says
Trump pretty much let the Muslim/Islam problem go and that was the reason I was for him.
Daniel Triplett says
I agree. He should have used his large pair of balls and just rolled the dice by speaking the truth, just as his heroes (and mine) MacArthur, Patton, and LeMay would’ve done. He was already losing before last night, so what else did he have to lose by giving a Robert Spencer succinct explanation of why Islam is a Worldwide existential threat, worse than Nazism and Shintoism. Then explain a war plan whereby the ideology must not be allowed to be practiced or promoted:
Ally with Dar al-Harb nuke states. Then one nuke strike on a random Dar al-Islam target every 72 hours until all 57 Muslim sovereignties surrender to our terms: Criminalize Islam, making its practice or promotion a capital offense. Within Dar al-Harb, we must legislate the practice or promotion of Islam a capital offense, minus the nuke strikes of course.
There’s no other way to win this war.
THAT’S the case he should’ve made. Only the useful idiots, including Hillary, would call him crazy. But the smart ones, after long thought, would know he’s right and go all-in for him.
Here’s the plan in a bit more detail. Every time I poll test this essay on Twitter, hundreds vote, and 75 – 85% always vote “Yes,” when asked, “Do you agree with my strategy?”
“Total War: Extinguishing Islam from Earth” @dantriplett https://medium.com/@dantriplett/islamic-jihad-is-total-war-for-all-marbles-6c858098b76e
Rev g says
Probably because the 99% think you are a loon for imagining such an idea. Politically, it is worse than mere suicide.
Trump made major points regarding Islam and Islamic nations’ treatment of women and gays, two of Hil’s vote sources. He also made points bringing Hil’s immigration aims.
Pretty spiteful of you, demeaning the candidate who attempts to remedy the situation, even if by small steps, over the one exacerbating the problem.
Daniel Triplett says
@Rev g
99% think I’m a loon? Where did that come from? And how is 75 – 85% of people AGREEING with my strategy political suicide?
And I didn’t “imagine” this idea. The US Military taught it to me, just as they do every other Major and above.
It’s the same strategy that gave us victory in WWII. Were our grandfathers loons too in your world?
What the hell makes you think I’m demeaning Trump? I donate to his campaign, I have a giant “Veterans for Trump” sign in the back window of my car, along with a bumper sticker, and I say nothing but supportive remarks about him on social media.
WTF is your problem? Do you want to ignore the polls that say he’s behind? Does sticking your head in the sand “make you support him?”
Acknowledging reality doesn’t mean I want him to lose. I want him to win; I don’t know about you. I’m just trying to articulate one of many different strategies that may help him.
Cool it.
And feel free to articulate your own ideas that will ELEVATE him in the polls, because that’s what he needs. Have at it.
Rev g says
You must have attended the war college in the late 40’s then.
You are not very up on the views of the people on the street, or politicians on both sides of the aisle, even internationally.
Yes, 99% think you are a loon.
Not denigrating your plan, just your opinion of its validity and acceptance in today’s world. That is the loony part.
Daniel Triplett says
@Rev g
As someone who’s never worn America’s uniform or seen action, you’re mighty arrogant to be disqualifying me and the “real training” taught in today’s war colleges.
It hasn’t changed much in millennia; only the efficiency of weapons we use. We’ve even used these strategies on our own people. Do some research on Gen Sherman’s scorched Earth March to the Sea.
“People on the street and politicians” don’t fight, bleed, die fighting, and WIN wars (the US Military does). So pardon me if I don’t seek their guidance when articulating winning war strategy. You know as much about winning wars as you do about open-heart surgery. You’re knowledge of history is a bit weak too.
And tell me just how well the expert politically correct opinion of “people on the street” and our “politicians” regarding how our nation should wage war is working out for us? Do you think we’re winning this war Genius? (We’re not)
All the “expert people on the street” and Caliph Ohammad who wanted us to exfiltrate Iraq got what they wanted. How well did that work out? Are you paying attention yet? I watched a lot of our best and bravest Americans die there. Iraq is gone and is now the Islamic State. Brilliant. Those fine Americans died for nothing, but I’m sure their parents, widows, and orphans will appreciate hearing your sage military strategy.
Similarly in Afghanistan, where 1 out of every 7 US KIAs are Green on Blue (look it up), that country is more dangerous today than the day I first set foot there on Day One 15 years ago. More evidence politicians don’t have a fucking clue how to wage war. That’s what the military is for.
Perhaps if people on the street and the politicians would STFU, and unleash the military with little or no ROE, letting the military do their jobs and call all the shots, the results would be much different now.
And here you go again with the 99% BS. When facts don’t support your argument, just make shit up, right?
75 – 85% of the people who read this war strategy, over multiple Twitter polls, vote “Yes,” to the question, “Do you agree with my strategy?”
Am I speaking with an idiot? Do you know what Twitter is? Do you know how polls work? Exactly what about any of that makes you believe 99% of the people who read this strategy believe I’m a loon?
I think YOU are the arrogant loon here.
Rev g says
You are showing the reason you never made flag rank, you forgot that the military does not set policy. It is a tool.
Who exactly are you speaking of, this guy who has not ever had one or two or three dd-214’s with his name on it? Certainly it is not I.
Daniel Triplett says
I never made flag rank because I chose to separate after 12 years to take a union airline job with the highest paying airline in the World where I make 8 times the money working one-tenth the hours, idiot.
But I’m proud of my service. I chipped in. 12 years Active Duty with 6 in combat is 12 years more than 99% of all other Americans will ever do.
And there you go again making shit up. I never said the military sets policy. The military, however, does exclusively train combatants how to wage and win wars. Not the POTUS, and not the 535 on Capitol Hill. The 535 provide funding and “declare war.” Only the POTUS can write the objective and ROE.
The military has one purpose: To blow shit up and kill ass-loads of people in short order to execute policy and successfully achieve the POTUS’s objective. An objective that a smart POTUS will spell out in a concise, five-paragraph memorandum, then STAY OUT OF THE WAY, giving his battle commanders authority and whatever they need, asking if there’s anything he can do to help.
These insults and acrimony between us are really unnecessary, and wasting our time. We’re both Kaffir in this War, and we both want Trump to be our CINC. We’re on the same team. Perhaps you thought I was insulting DJT, but I wasn’t.
Rev g says
Sounds like you were forced out due to poor oer’s, perhaps because of your mindset.
Your “plan” ignores that no, most people do not agree with you. Whether in uniform, civilian, or a politician, on local, national, even international levels, most people would find your plan untenable. The joint chiefs do not dictate policy, much as you may wish they did. I am rather hawkish, especially in relation to islam, but I have the ability to remain focused on today’s reality, an asset you seem to lack. It is people like you which caused the founding father’s to distrust a standing military. You sound more like a teenager on too much energy drink than an esteemed military strategist and veteran. That is sad, we need veterans with good heads on their shoulders behind the fight against Islamic aggression. I will pray that the fog is lifted from your thinking faculties.
Daniel Triplett says
Wow, you really are an A-hole. There’s just no getting through to you. You don’t have any damn clue what USAF Majors are taught today.
“Forced out.” That’s funny. My OPRs were flawless. I was first in my class in everything I did. But that’s none of your damn business anyway.
Have you read any Curtis LeMay? You know, the longest serving 4-Star in history? He’s way more of a hawk than I. How do you think his OPRs looked? And who do you think wrote Strategic Air Command policy? The 4-Stars authorize the training curriculum fool, not the Majors.
It’s a damn good thing you weren’t in charge during the 40s, or we’d all be saluting the swastika or Rising Sun. I pray that people like you don’t get any authority now. The stakes are much higher.
You are pure idiot. You still don’t understand polls, and you apparently never will.
I still haven’t heard a solution from you about the Islamic threat, because you don’t have one. Moron. I’m done wasting my time with you.
Rev g says
Very good. You keep thinking that the world agrees with you, I guess everyone just doesn’t understand that we all agree?
I find it hard to believe someone of you mental limitation could make major, I guess you fell through the cracks.
Did you go to that little school where the air is rare? There were some loons like you there when I attended.
Rev g says
Yes, a bigger hammer fixes everything. You must have misread about LeMay. Seems you misread pretty much everything.
Rev g says
I definitely pray that nobody like you ever gets near the leadership of our nation. This coming from a fan of Bibi.
I am certain the one who cannot understand polls or public opinion is you.
Daniel Triplett says
@Rev g
Tell me where your “99% think [I’m] a loon” came from. Where did you get the 99% number wise guy? Let’s hear it.
I’m guessing it’s from the same place your head perpetually seems to be; inside your rectum.
I’ve misread nothing from General LeMay, nor any other Professional Military Education Schools where I’ve studied war.
You’re no one to be lecturing me on military strategy little man.
https://twitter.com/dantriplett/status/665596720252764160
That’s how polls work fool. Do yourself a giant favor and STFU about this. You discredit and embarrass yourself more with each and every post.
Unless and until you can articulate a detailed Counter-jihad strategy that eliminates the Islamic threat forever, I suggest you not waste your time writing me posts, because I’ll neither read nor respond to them any longer. You’re an arrogant pusillanimous clown hiding behind a pseudonym.
You’ll never articulate a strategy anyway. You’re a foolish troll criticizing and mocking War Vets and Counter-jihadists with viable, winnable strategies that are way above your head. You offer nothing yourself, because you have neither the brains nor the balls to do so.
Educate yourself, and drop the attitude.
Rev g says
You are a liar as well as a fool. I made fun of nobody, I merely pointed out that the majority of people do not share your sentiment regarding curing the “muslim problem”. Almost sounds nazi, doesn’t it?
Polls are useless, by the way. Anyone with any intelligence knows that.
Seems you are needing to crank up the insults, since you cannot voice yourself coherently.
You definitely are a major something.
Rev g says
75 – 85% of the people who read this war strategy, over multiple Twitter polls, vote “Yes,” to the question, “Do you agree with my strategy?
Wow, how numbers work really escapes you, huh? What percent of the world’s population ever reads your “strategy”?
Of that, what percent would give a cap enough to respond to such a poll?
So basically, about 80% of a group of your parents, siblings, and drinking buddies actually agree with you.
The other 99.99998% of the world see you as a loon.
They may agree in concept even, but know you are a loon to think it realistic.
You really think a lot of yourself. Somebody has to, and nobody else does, obviously.
Champ says
“Indeed. If she didn’t get all this right when she was Secretary of State, how can Americans be confident she will get it right the next time, particularly when all she is offering is more of the same, more of the same failed foreign policies that have gotten the world into the fix it’s in today — with the centerpiece being the denial of the nature, magnitude and motivating ideology of the jihad threat?”
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Indeed …
And during the second debate (not last night’s debate), Hillary expressed how much she admired and supported obama–proving Donald’s point–that a vote for Hillary would mean four more years of obama. No thank you!!
Eric Jones says
I see the conditions in the USA now. I shudder to think of what it would be with Hilary’s open borders and a 550% increase in refugees.
I definetly will not be voting for Clinton. This will be their 2nd bite at the apple. The first one suffered an impeachment.
Every voter should ask themselves if Hillary would act in your interest first, or will she act in the interest of Wall St.
Eric
davej says
Hillary is under the influence of both Wall Street and Saudi Arabia. She has had a Muslim Brotherhood- related Muslima Executive Assistant for how many years?
Her recent “movement to the Left” was forced upon her and will be soon forgotten once in office.
She is a foolish appeaser just like Merkel and Mays, not a strong leader who is proud of her Country and culture. Why is it we no longer have brave leaders like Israel has?
Peter Ahlskog says
BREAKING NEWS * BREAKING NEWS * BREAKING NEWS * BREAKING NEWS * BREAKING NEWS
US TV NEWS DOMINATED BY BLONDIE-RACIST JOURNALISTS WITH RIGGED HAIR!!!!
I have found it strange that 90% of alla white female journalists in CNN, BBC News, Sky News and ABC are blond. I was thinking that’s it’s impossible that USA and UK have more blond women than Finland, Norway and Sweden. But I am a stupid man. These women have colored their hair blonde of course. I can see that it is darker in the scalp. They all have rigged hair! Then they make fun of Mr Trump when he says that the Clinton runs media in a degree that the election is rigged.
Then I started thinking: why are political correct white TV journalists who claim day after day in the news that this person and that person is a racist, why are these TV-women coloring their own brown hair blond??? Do they think that people with, red, brown, gray or black hair have a lower value??? Obviously a little of the same thoughts as Adolf Hitler. If they also use 12 cm high heels they look a little like how they think Nordic Goddesses look: light blond and 180 cm tall…
So these TV journalists must be BLONDIE-RACISTS = persons who believes that blond hair provides benefits in society and in their careers and therefore color the hair light blond, and thus expresses a kind of racism! To be a real white woman in America the hair color must be light blond. Even Mrs Clinton express these thoughts. Hypocrites! Typical cases of BRUNETTE-PHOBIA!
Anne Smith says
Mrs Clinton demonstrates these views – her hair colour is in no way natural. In fact, left to nature, it would probably be white by now.
Must cost a great deal to produce the “natural” dark blonde, with highlights instead of nature’s white offering.
Vann Boseman says
Mr. Spencer wonders encourages historians to research when Democrats began using the phrase, “The rich need to pay their fair share.” It may be that he is particularly interested in what presidential candidate may have first said this.
As a history student, I do not have an answer for him.
The sentiment has been around since the formation of the country with a little more interest in this around the time of the Federalist / Anti-Federalists debates. A major distrust of the rich was multiplied around the time of the Civil War and has remained ever since. Left and Right historians agree on this. Though I can see the case for the North and South equally being responsible for this, Lincoln won the war. If I were to research Mr. Spencer’s question, I’d begin with Lincoln and move forward. While a Democrat may have made that statement before the Civil War, the meaning of the context would have not been the same.
Could this be a thesis question for me?
Marx wrote to congratulate Lincoln on winning his reelection. Could there have been a less personal sentiment of this founder of communism in recognizing a possible popular forum of discontent that could be channeled into a class struggle framework? There may be a lot of directions I could go in exploring Mr. Spencer’s question. By around 1900 in the US, the idea would be championed by chronologically from new historians, to progressive historians and progressives, finally being championed directly by communists.
The left likes to play with the words liberal, progressive, socialist, and communist. When one word falls out of favor, they adopt another one. This has been going on a long time. Whatever you call it, I agree that this election is about who gets all the marbles.
Anthony says
The last debate shown how clear their positions are in all subjects presented by Wallace, so actually easy for American to vote for, like day and night.
Clinton represents real politician, she can say one thing to one group of people and another to different group ( on the same subject ) and feel ok about it and can get away with it too, so American should try something new…get some businessman who’s not politically-correct to get things done, if he fails at least you try something different.
I’m no American, but I can see how phony and ambitious Clinton is.
You deserve better.
Theo Prinse says
The Dutch policor is very scared that with president Trump the Dutch social-democrats PvdA and eco fascist GroenLinks will be buried.
Clinton and Obama have Dutch liberal journalists every day on television in the Netherlands like: Charles Groenhuizen, Willem Post (biography jeb Bush hi hi), Rick Nieman and RTL Merel Westrik, NOS Wouter Zwart and Arjen van der Horst, RTL Michiel Vos (who is married with Alexandra Pelosi), Tom Kleijn (halfbrother of leftwing journalist jaap Jongbloed).
– Clinton saidi in the third debat that 17 secret services reported that Putin is behind the email hacks of the democrats. But that are just two (DIA and DHS) and they are only suspicious and prove nothing.
– Left wing anti Trump Dutch journalist (knight) Eelco Bosch van Rosenthal had left wing Dutch journailst Arjen van der Horst asume that a thourough American studie of billions of US votes during decades had shown only ’30’ were false Then Rosenthal had a republican (rino) and anti Trump activist say that the 2002-3 Florida recount with Al Gore had ‘nothing to do’ with the recent voter fraude of the democrats.
Carolyne says
Hillary Clinton bobs and weaves her way through another so-called debate. These exercises in Clintonphilia are not debates, they are press conferences giving the edge to Clinton with the softball questions,; however Chris Wallace was not as bad as the other “Moderators”
Wasn’t it Andrea Mitchell who was instrumental in bringing fame to Anita Hill with no evidence except her word about Clarence Thomas? I always believed Clarence Thomas as the things Hill claimed were so silly and adolescent that I don’t think a sophisticated jurist such as Thomas would be caught dead doing or saying them. The left would have done better had they not drafted the idiot Hill to do their dirty work. But then, many of them are idiots themselves.
But the press pushes this nonsense on us and liberals who have no idea what “Liberal ” means eat it up and will be death of this once great country.
duh swami says
She won’t give back any money, she never has and she never will…What she will do is ‘rule and control’, just like any other banana republic dictator…
Bill Shackelford says
A few years ago, the United Nations estimated that worldwide, between 8,500,000 and TEN MILLION women are forced to obliterate their very identity by appearing in public only in a BERQA! . to