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Trump: Muslims in US need to warn cops about pending jihad attacks

Oct 10, 2016 8:35 pm By Robert Spencer

Why is this even controversial? And the fact that it is is telling on many levels. Islamic supremacist groups such as the Hamas-linked Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) routinely oppose counter-jihad efforts and counsel Muslims not to cooperate with law enforcement, and insist, along with the Left, that even to ask Muslims to warn police about jihad plots is “Islamophobic.” Self-defense, and defense of the nation in general, is now “Islamophobic.”

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“Donald Trump: Muslims in America Need to Warn Cops About Pending Jihad Attacks,” by Neil Munro, Breitbart, October 10, 2016:

Muslims living in America need to alert the government when they see “hatred,” Donald Trump told a Muslim woman invited to the second presidential debate to ask a question about “Islamophobia” among Americans.

“Whether we like it or not, and we could be very politically correct, but whether we like it or not, there is a problem,” Trump told the woman. “And we have to be sure that Muslims come in and report when they see something going on. When they see hatred going on, they have to report it,” Trump said.

The questioner did not refer to Americans being killed in terror attacks, but suggested that Muslims are indirect victims of the jihad attacks. “With Islamophobia on the rise, how will you help people like me deal with the consequences of being labeled as a threat to the country after the election is over?” the questioner said. 

There were no warnings about numerous pending Islamic attacks, including the Boston bombings, the 2015 San Bernardino attack and the recent bombings in New Jersey, despite evidence of extensive preparations.

In his response to the question, Trump cited the San Bernardino attack:

In San Bernardino, many people saw the bombs all over the apartment of the two people that killed 14 and wounded many, many people. Horribly wounded. They’ll never be the same. Muslims have to report the problems when they see them.

In her response to the same question, Hillary Clinton criticized Trump for his insistence on greater cooperation from Muslims, and she downplayed the question of whether Muslims should do more to alert police when fellow Muslims are preparing to killed Americans.

It’s also very short-sighted and even dangerous to be engaging in the kind of demagogic rhetoric that Donald has about Muslims,” she said.

We need American Muslims to be part of our eyes and ears on our front lines. I’ve worked with a lot of different Muslim groups around America. I’ve met with a lot of them, and I’ve heard how important it is for them to feel that they are wanted and included and part of our country, part of our homeland security, and that’s what I want to see.

Clinton also insisted there’s no conflict between Islam and the non-Islamic West, despite the statements by Islamic attackers that they’re motivated by Islam.

We are not at war with Islam. And it is a mistake and it plays into the hands of the terrorists to act as though we are. So I want a country where citizens like you and your family are just as welcome as anyone else….

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  1. mgoldberg says

    Oct 10, 2016 at 8:49 pm

    Hillary should be made to understand that Islam’s Jihad is at war with ‘all others’
    And we should be at war with Islam’s Jihad, and Sharia law as anything but for muslims, but never
    for non muslims.

  2. Don McKellar says

    Oct 10, 2016 at 8:49 pm

    “We are not at war with Islam. And it is a mistake and it plays into the hands of the terrorists to act as though we are.”

    You are not at war with Islam, Hillary — you have already submitted. As for us free people it’s a different story.

  3. mgoldberg says

    Oct 10, 2016 at 8:50 pm

    my last sentence is a bit confusing…. I meant that Sharia may be law privately for muslims but never used against non muslims, or as law for non muslims.

  4. billybob says

    Oct 10, 2016 at 9:00 pm

    “I’ve heard how important it is for them to feel that they are wanted and included and part of our country.”
    It is they themselves hold themselves apart from the rest of us. Their religion commands it. We are the despised “kafir”. The are “the best of people”. We are “the vilest of creatures”. How could they possibly imagine we want people with that kind of sentiment towards us? People with an attitude like that are NOT wanted. People with an attitude like that should not be included. Leave them brood on the bench while we play the game. If they want in, they need to drop the attitude.

  5. Norger says

    Oct 10, 2016 at 9:12 pm

    Mr. Spencer hits the nail on the head again. There have been over 10,000 injured on US soil in jihad terror attacks, including 9/11. US Muslims are not victims (and I’m not suggesting they should be).

    The fact that Trump wouldn’t even question the BS term “Islamophobia” is telling though.

    • JawsV says

      Oct 10, 2016 at 9:34 pm

      “The fact that Trump wouldn’t even question the BS term “Islamophobia” is telling though.”

      Yes, I groaned when he accepted the “term.” Actually, I groaned throughout the entire walking-on-eggshells exchange so as not to offend the Muslims. When Hillary said we’re not at war with Islam I held my head in my hands and emitted sighs of frustration and exasperation. 15 years after 9/11 this is what we’ve come to – afraid to offend the Mohammedans and their vile mass-murder ideology. I don’t understand it.

    • gravenimage says

      Oct 10, 2016 at 10:36 pm

      Trump is *far* from perfect. Consider the alternative, though…

      • le mouron rouge says

        Oct 11, 2016 at 4:43 pm

        gravenimage,

        Good point, the alternative is too frightening to think about.

        http://www.charismanews.com/politics/elections/60485-mike-huckabee-bed-wetting-republicans-are-scared-trump-will-win

        • gravenimage says

          Oct 11, 2016 at 8:30 pm

          Thanks for the link, le mouron rouge–good to hear this from Mike Huckabee. I think he’s right.

      • Ashley says

        Oct 11, 2016 at 8:03 pm

        Graven…here’s a quote from a friend of mine:

        “I mean, let’s be serious…how bad could he really be? Let’s see…if he does nothing about jihadi infiltration in America, he’s still better than Hillary, since she wants to bring in more refugees. If he doesn’t do a damned thing about illegal immigration…still better than Hillary because she wants to give illegals amnesty and doesn’t want to secure the border. If he does nothing about guns..GOOD, because Hillary wants to outlaw them. I mean, seriously….what on earth could he fuck up more than Hillary has actually promised?”

        So yeah. We don’t know what the future with a Trump president will bring, but we DO know what a Clinton presidency will bring.

        • gravenimage says

          Oct 11, 2016 at 8:39 pm

          Thanks, Ashley–I’m hardly an uncritical fan of Trump, but given what he has said–even, as your friend notes, if he doesn’t follow through on all of them–he is apt to be far better than Clinton.

          I just ordered my ballot today.

  6. Troybeam says

    Oct 10, 2016 at 9:13 pm

    NOT GOING TO HAPPEN: per Koran/sharia law, Muslims cannot rat out another Muslims, learn your Islam protect our Nation.

    • gravenimage says

      Oct 10, 2016 at 10:39 pm

      Yes–this is the reason why Muslims so seldom report violent Jihad plots.

  7. Northern Virginiastan says

    Oct 10, 2016 at 9:13 pm

    David Cochrane of the CBC asked, How exactly did Gallup find an undecided Muslim woman for this debate at this stage in this election? #debates https://twitter.com/CochraneCBC/status/785293728147709952

    Was she a plant?

    • Ray Sears says

      Oct 11, 2016 at 2:14 pm

      You even have to ask the Question ? The WHOLE damned thing was scripted at and by the CLINTON NEWS NETWORK, and the DNC !

  8. Praeceptor Maximus says

    Oct 10, 2016 at 9:18 pm

    This post is in a response to those who were not happy with Trump’s response to that Muslims girl. I want to explain something very crucial here. Did you see that that Muslim girl was not covered and had her hair colored? This was staged in order to put the best face of Muslims forward. Here are my observed facts. Everyone on the left side of the bell curve is a Hillary supporter; everyone on the right side of the bell curve is a Trump supporter. The middle, which is the large majority, are the undecided voters and the brainwashed masses. There is no hope for the brainwashed masses, but there is hope for the undecided voters; that is that they have to be persuaded to vote for Trump. In case you haven’t noticed Trump is still trailing behind Hillary. The undecided voters are the PC generation and are completely blind to the threat of Islam. If Trump openly, at this late stage, becomes hostile to Muslims, this is the end for him. The Democrats will have a field day and his enemies will dance on his grave. We are involved in an extremely dangerous war with Islam because not only our political leaders have sided with the enemy, but also our own countrymen have sold us to the enemy. This is unprecedented in history. Thus to beat this enemy we need a champion who is both a fox and a lion, and that champion is Trump. Do not listen to what he says to a few Muslims to appease them; listen to what he does NOT say and that is that he will never reveal his plans to the enemy. If Trump does not get elected, then 8 Nov 2016 will go down in history as the date for the fall of America and the western civilization. So, please do not waver from your support for him just because you found his answer to that Muslim girl unsatisfactory. Do not lose the sight of the big picture. We have to win the war and not small insignificant little battles with individual Muslims. So, we too have to be as cunning as a fox and as brave as a lion.

    • Christopher H says

      Oct 10, 2016 at 9:54 pm

      I agree Praeceptor, Mr. Trump is being very wise, and you can almost See him biting his tongue when he replies to such baited questions. As he’s become quite a Jihadwatch.org follower, he’s become much more knowledgeable than he can Speak about until he’s elected. I doubt I could be so tactful, but he’s doing a great job at it.

  9. le mouron rouge says

    Oct 10, 2016 at 9:40 pm

    Trump encourages Muslims to help us to help them and is lambasted, and yet, it’s ok for Obama to request the American people to spy on each other, shades of N… Ger….

    This is part on an article from Friday, August 7, 2009.

    White House Move to Collect ‘Fishy’ Info May Be Illegal, Critics Say

    The White House has been under fire since posting a blog on Tuesday that asks supporters to e-mail any “fishy” information seen on the Web or received electronically.

    FOXNews.com

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/08/07/white-house-collect-fishy-info-health-reform-illegal-critics-say/

    Friday, August 07, 2009

    The White House strategy of turning supporters into snitches when they see “fishy” information about the health care debate may run afoul of the law, legal experts say.

    “The White House is in bit of a conundrum because of this privacy statute that prohibits the White House from collecting data and storing it on people who disagree with it,” Judge Andrew Napolitano, a FOX News analyst, said Friday.

    “There’s also a statute that requires the White House to retain all communications that it receives. It can’t try to rewrite history by pretending it didn’t receive anything,” he said.

    “If the White House deletes anything, it violates one statute. If the White House collects data on the free speech, it violates another statute.”

    Napolitano was referring to the Privacy Act of 1974, which was passed after the Nixon administration used federal agencies to illegally investigate individuals for political purposes. Enacted after Richard Nixon’s resignation in the Watergate scandal, the statute generally prohibits any federal agency from maintaining records on individuals exercising their right to free speech.

    The White House has been under fire since it posted a blog on Tuesday that asked supporters to e-mail any “fishy” information seen on the Web or received electronically to flag@whitehouse.gov.

    “There is a lot of disinformation about health insurance reform out there,” the blog said, adding that “since we can’t keep track of all of them here at the White House, we’re asking for your help.”

    “The great enemy of clear language is insincerity. When there is a gap between one’s real and one’s declared aims, one turns, as it were, instinctively to long words and exhausted idioms, like a cuttlefish squirting out ink.”
    – George Orwell

  10. billybob says

    Oct 10, 2016 at 9:45 pm

    “With Islamophobia on the rise, how will you help people like me deal with the consequences of being labeled as a threat to the country after the election is over?”

    My ears immediately pricked up when I heard that question during the debate. That was a trick question, as twisted as a mobius strip. It was designed in such a way that only Hillary could answer it “correctly”, in the eyes of the left progressive liberals, and conversely, it would be impossible for Trump to respond to the satisfaction of just about anyone.

    It was designed to bolster Hillary with her base, for one thing, and to put Trump in a quandary in the same vein as the famous “When did you stop beating your wife?” question. Try to answer that when you are in the middle of a media huddle, with questions coming at you from all sides in rapid fire. Even if you never beat your wife, you risk looking bad or defensive if you try to respond, and guilty if you don’t respond – which is exactly why reporters ask such questions when they have a hidden agenda.

    That question is based on the assumption that Islamophobia is on the rise, for one thing. But is it on the rise? And if it is, would that have to do with jihad attacks being on the rise? And is it really some kind of “phobia”, or an expression of reals fears resulting from terrorism, which is designed to instill such fears.

    We might ask, how can we help violent criminals deal with the consequences of being labeled as a threat? Then the question appears to be nonsensical. Any Muslim may indeed be a threat, if they take their religion seriously. So then asking that question in that case is also nonsensical.

    That question was brilliant. I have been trying to dissect it for maybe 20 minutes now while composing this response, and I barely have a coherent answer. Imagine being in the middle of a debate with two minutes to respond, and no time to think about your answer before delivering it? After the effort of composing this comment, I can see clearly now with hindsight that Trump did a terrific job with it.
    It was skilfully designed to trip up Trump, and to be a breeze for Hillary. It was no innocent question from the audience, that’s for sure.

    • Praeceptor Maximus says

      Oct 10, 2016 at 9:53 pm

      billybob.
      Agreed %100. You saw through it too.

    • gravenimage says

      Oct 10, 2016 at 10:41 pm

      Yes–I’m sure she was a plant. That Trump (mostly, at least) cut through her bs is quite heartening.

      • Jay Boo says

        Oct 11, 2016 at 9:34 am

        True graven,
        Trump apparently won the debate as well but the MSM will never tell.

        BBC and NPR spent the whole day yesterday (avoiding talk about the debate itself) and instead using the pre-debate release of the Trump’s locker-room comments to sling out ‘Muslim-like’ ad-hominem attacks on Trump’s character and style when they should have admitted Islam defender Hillary got her but whopped by Trump on Islam.

    • Jack Diamond says

      Oct 10, 2016 at 11:31 pm

      Good politicians don’t answer questions as asked, if they are traps, they answer the question they want to answer. Trump didn’t need to get into the weeds about Islamophobia and what Islam is, good or bad. He does need to present the clear and present danger of Muslim immigration and taking in “Syrian” refugees, clearly and succinctly, which is why he called for “extreme vetting” in the first place.
      Trump is not going to get in trouble bringing up the Islamic State. He can talk about what ISIS has ordered Muslims to do and how they have acted on those orders, in Europe and here. Already. To demonstrate there is no vetting that is working, or possible. Then to say President Hillary will increase those refugees 550% and inevitably bring in terrorism and get people killed.

      “62 ISIS jihad plots in the US in just one year, over half by immigrants or their children, the FBI investigating active ISIS related-plots in all 50 states…(and) President Hillary Clinton will increase Muslim migration by 550%.” How long does it take to just say that much?

      Keeping out Shari’a will have to wait for the Inaugural Address.

      • Jack Diamond says

        Oct 10, 2016 at 11:40 pm

        and don’t forget the body count: “In total 64 people have been murdered and at least 121 wounded in the U.S. by ISIS-inspired attackers (in just a year)”

        http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3810273/America-s-enemies-SIXTY-TWO-ISIS-attackers-plotters-just-year-half-immigrants-children.html

  11. Kepha says

    Oct 10, 2016 at 9:50 pm

    Shrillary Shrooooooooooooo, as a good little Alinsky-ite, believes that the “oppressed” should stand together–even against the government she herself hopes to head. Hence, she is appalled that some American Muslims might turn in a terrorist, oops, freedom-fighter in her lexicon.

    • Mazo says

      Oct 12, 2016 at 12:35 am

      Is that why Clinton and Obama supported the Bourgeois Philippine whiner in chief Aquino against oppressed natives?

  12. davej says

    Oct 10, 2016 at 10:24 pm

    The question was a well designed plant, made to reinforce the notion that Muslims are innocent victims of a broad backlash.

    The point that Trump made about Muslims failing to rein in or report their home grown jihadists was later “fact checked” by asserting that “many” were not aware of the preparations being made by the San Bernardino murderers. Well maybe not many but certainly some, including the immediate family, yet nothing was done or said.

    Unfortunate that Trump did not contest the Islamophobia charge by pointing out that a well justified fear is not a “phobia”, instead he said it was a shame. Of course it is a shame, a shame on Muslims for provoking it and a shame on us for not speaking openly to resist them.

  13. Matthieu Baudin says

    Oct 10, 2016 at 10:31 pm

    Resident Muslim obviously let the country down when they remain silent about violent plots.

  14. gravenimage says

    Oct 10, 2016 at 10:35 pm

    Trump: Muslims in US need to warn cops about pending jihad attacks
    ………………………

    This should be a mainstream thing to say–that Hillary considers it *dangerous* to ask Muslims to report Jihad is just madness.

  15. somehistory says

    Oct 11, 2016 at 12:26 am

    He could have a *plant* ask, “what will the government do to protect me when I turn in fellow moslims I suspect, or know, are plotting and planning an attack, when I know if they find out, I’ll be killed?”

    islam is such an ugly, evil beast. Too bad it couldn’t have been blown away with the hurricane winds.

  16. Joe says

    Oct 11, 2016 at 12:55 am

    Hilliary’s speech in the debate was really kind of funny. She said we are not in war with Islam yet said something like jihad terrorists would be the problem. I was cringing for laughter here in my chair. She is so dumb, makes my bread look like a genius.

  17. Johan elzinga says

    Oct 11, 2016 at 1:25 am

    I saw the debate and I was disgusted about Hillaries’ answers to Trump’s warnings. I would call Hillary a yes, but… person. Any valid statement, no matter how true and important, is always by reflex countered by more yes, but… statements, containing more politically correct but factual incorrect crap.

  18. john clem says

    Oct 11, 2016 at 2:18 am

    Amazed Muslim Brotherhood, Cair , and the associated student islamic groups have not been exposed by trump as per discovered memorandum shown at the holy land foundation trial years ago. available for download online, there for everone to read. spells out islam’s goals .when and who does what to further islams cause over the long term. maybe smart to sit on it untill after the election, he must know about it, also i believe it is impossible obama could be so naive.

  19. Angemon says

    Oct 11, 2016 at 3:30 am

    The questioner did not refer to Americans being killed in terror attacks, but suggested that Muslims are indirect victims of the jihad attacks. “With Islamophobia on the rise, how will you help people like me deal with the consequences of being labeled as a threat to the country after the election is over?” the questioner said.

    Islamophobia on the rise”? Citation needed. “How will you help people like me”? What happened to “ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country”? “Being labeled as a threat to the country”? As far as I can tell, US law enforcement have yet to erroneously suspect someone on this particular matter. Case in point, that former army guy who was placed on a no-fly list and, cried “islamophobia” and was later found in Turkey trying to join ISIS. If an individual that happens to be muslim is suspect of having ties with an islamic terror group there’s all reason to think law enforcement have it right – law enforcement is demonstrably erring on the side of caution, with deadly results for the American people.

    In her response to the same question, Hillary Clinton criticized Trump for his insistence on greater cooperation from Muslims, and she downplayed the question of whether Muslims should do more to alert police when fellow Muslims are preparing to killed Americans.

    Of course she did – why demand of a minority group the same as it is demanded of everyone else, especially a group who is overrepresented when it comes t terror attacks?

    We need American Muslims to be part of our eyes and ears on our front lines.

    Unless, of course, being part of your “eyes and ears” means reporting something they see or hear to the police…

  20. Crusades Were Right! says

    Oct 11, 2016 at 5:18 am

    “We are not at war with Islam”

    You’re right, Hillary; and that’s why Islam is WINNING!

    Our political leaders need to accept that Islam is at war with Christendom and the West, and has been since its inception, and that we need to FIGHT BACK!

  21. fuh swami says

    Oct 11, 2016 at 8:40 am

    Donald knows enough about Islam to get him into trouble, but not enough to get him out of it……The idea that Mahoundians will help juffar fight other Mahoundians, is heavily flawed…
    Hillary is one of them and not one of us…electing her is electing them…

  22. Richard Paulsen says

    Oct 11, 2016 at 9:06 am

    Do not trust muslims and do not trust anyone trusting muslims.

    • Ray Sears says

      Oct 11, 2016 at 2:27 pm

      Only a FOOL would !

    • Champ says

      Oct 11, 2016 at 3:27 pm

      “Do not trust muslims and do not trust anyone trusting muslims.”

      ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

      Hear, hear!

  23. Obilic says

    Oct 11, 2016 at 9:19 am

    Of course we are at war with Islam. Obama’s refusal to utter Radical Islamic Terrorism is ridiculous. However, the majority of breaks and successes in cases in France, Belgium, and the United States is from local Muslims giving law enforcement inside information and raising concerns. It is complex and a stark black-white analysis actually helps ISIS. Even wacky HIllary has that one right.

  24. Richard Paulsen says

    Oct 11, 2016 at 10:43 am

    Hillary Clinton Eid al-Fitr message. Horrible.

  25. Jerry says

    Oct 11, 2016 at 11:25 am

    “Muslims living in America need to alert the government when they see “hatred,”

    This will only lead to Islamic narcissism when the all incessantly look at themselves in the mirrors.

  26. WestDivide says

    Oct 11, 2016 at 12:17 pm

    Read Bob Smith on Muslim control in the West. Islam is fear-based and self policing.

    http://www.islam-watch.org/Bob/Islam-is-Fear.htm

    Trump’s idea can hardly ever happen. “Moderate” or otherwise lesser or neutral Muslims cannot escape their more dogmatic brethren.

    -West out

  27. pdxnag says

    Oct 11, 2016 at 1:39 pm

    (Me Dreamin’) “You should be free to publicly declare your apostasy from Islam without fear that a Muslim will kill you. The universally agreed penalty in Islamic Sharia law for leaving Islam is death. The threat you face is from people who still call themselves Muslim.

    If you oppose the killing of apostates from Islam then you too must be an apostate. Are you an apostate? (pause) Or do you represent a threat to apostates, or potential apostates?”

    • Johan elzinga says

      Oct 11, 2016 at 2:20 pm

      How many people are aware that Islam declares that the punishment for apostacy is death? And that this is the official view advocated by their imams all over the world? And how come no one ever asked Hillary this question on television or in any debate, if she would condemn those views of the majority of muslims or not?

  28. Champ says

    Oct 11, 2016 at 3:36 pm

    During this second debate, Hillary said she fully supports obama and his presidency, which served to *prove* Donald Trump’s point that a vote for Hiilary means four more years of obama …

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