That the university would even be considering this is a sign of a cultural confusion and capitulation of catastrophic proportions. Britain is finished.
“Outrage as university considers BANNING ‘s***’ God Save The Queen over ‘far right claims,'” by Charlie Peat, Express, October 9, 2016 (thanks to The Religion of Peace):\
THE ICONIC God Save The Queen could be banned by a university from its graduation ceremony because the anthem “has links to far right nationalism”.
Mahamed Abdullahi, from King’s College London Students’ Union said he wanted to scrap the national anthem because it’s “outdated” and “not reflective” of the global values.
The union welfare officer took to Facebook to spout his hate for the traditional song.
In an expletive-ladened rant, the Geography graduate said: “I want to get rid of the national anthem at graduation because it’s outdated and not reflective of the ‘global’ values the college espouses.
“In the context of increasing far right nationalism across Europe and the legacy of the British empire, it’s just a bit s*** and it doesn’t even bang. Basically, f*** the nation state.”
The university admitted it is “in discussion” over the possible ditching of the anthem.
Mr Abdullahi’s comments led to a furious backlash, with many signing a petition to keep the anthem….

mgoldberg says
They might consider discussing how Allahu Akbar, or Allah is ‘greater’ is a fascist tyranny that is commited to submitting all others…. now there’s an outdated slogan.
Lorenz Stransky says
Fascism is preferable to Islam.
gravenimage says
Islam *is* Fascism.
Kay says
I’m really not politically minded and even I can see that Islam is fascism.
WHY can’t our leaders and people in general see it?
Allan says
GI and Kay, with all due respect, your claim is preposterous, and you make yourselves appear to be ludicrously ignorant by asserting it. Now, it should not have been difficult to avoid the mistake. All you needed to do first was to ask a simple question: Was the Fascist Party of Italy an Islamic party?
But of course it wasn’t. In fact, Fascism originated among leftists, mostly secularists as far as I can tell, to circumvent problems encountered in Marxism and other strains of leftist radicalism. Among those problems was internationalism, which was rejected by many, many manual laborers and proletarians. Another problem was the economic calculation problem of socialism, esp. when it’s practiced in the form that abolishes private property in producers’ goods.
Please get informed before you comment again about Fascism. It can only harm the cause of opposing Islamic totalitarianism by trying to attach the word “fascism” to Islam. These should help:
http://www.econlib.org/library/Enc/Fascism.html
http://www.la-articles.org.uk/fascism.htm
gravenimage says
Allan wrote:
GI and Kay, with all due respect, your claim is preposterous, and you make yourselves appear to be ludicrously ignorant by asserting it. Now, it should not have been difficult to avoid the mistake. All you needed to do first was to ask a simple question: Was the Fascist Party of Italy an Islamic party?
But of course it wasn’t. In fact, Fascism originated among leftists, mostly secularists as far as I can tell…
Please get informed before you comment again about Fascism.
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Allan, I am *well aware* of the history of Fascism, and have posted on it many times here.
Perhaps I should have noted that Islam is a brutal, collectivist totalitarian creed, just as is Fascism, although Fascism developed separately from Islam. I did not think it was necessary to do so–I imagine most here are quite knowledgeable about the origins of both ugly creeds. But next time I will include this historical disclaimer, since you consider it needed.
Peter says
No, Islam is a totalitarian ideology.
Kay says
@ Allan:
Oh boy! Don’t confuse Gravenimage with her vast knowledge of history and current events
with me and my turmoiled emotions!
Mark Swan says
Modern Islam was born during the 1930s, Its rise was inspired by the rise
of Fascism and of Nazism.
During the 1930s, the Muslim Brotherhood established Islam as a modern
mass movement. It was, and remains to this day the ideological heart of all
the later Islam groups. CAIR is a appendage of The Muslim Brotherhood.
http://www.matthiaskuentzel.de/contents/hitlers-legacy-islamic-antisemitism-and-the-impact-of-the-muslim-brotherhood
Mubarak says
We can discuss labels but birds of a feather will always flock together – disguised they will fight each other as exemplified by communism and fascism.
The ultimate goal of evil is everybody’s war against everybody and to seduce as many as possible before it destroys itself in a final and total ragnarok. That’s the ironic judgment on evil.
gravenimage says
Kay, thank you for your kind words. You need not be so self-deprecating, though–I always look for your posts. 🙂
gravenimage says
Notice that Mubarak makes no mention of Islam here. Evil ideologies have often fought each other in scrabbling struggles for power–it does not mean that they actually ideologically oppose each other. After all, Stalin allied with Hitler at first.
gravenimage says
Mubarak wrote:
The ultimate goal of evil is everybody’s war against everybody and to seduce as many as possible before it destroys itself in a final and total ragnarok. That’s the ironic judgment on evil.
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The goal of Islam is forcing everyone to submit to Islam. The idea that it is just random violence is just false. Muslim violence has a definite purpose.
DFD says
In Bradford, UK, people once they know and trust each other (which takes a while by now and often depends on ‘references’, that is others who also know the person concerned) often say to the newly established friend or associate: “…. conversation topic … Islam … ….. in the end I think it will come to the question what to chose: Sieg Hail or Allahu Akbar…”
By now I have been asked that question a few times by Bradfordians, often elderly ones who were raised with an endless ‘onslaught’ of ww2 movies. Staunch supporters of Queen and Country, most of them, speaking glowingly of Winston Churchill, with only minor reservations.
But mention Chromwell, as I often do, and things turn different. I did that during the second or third conversation, I was stunned, suddenly there was passion. Since then I am doing that again and agian, neigh invariably with the same result or response.
My impression? Let me put it this way: Chromwell wouldn’t have to make an effort to raise armies, they’d be queing to join, just by him being there. Next one up, no, not Winston but Adolf, then Winston.
Once people trust you and confide in you, oh brother, oh brother…. Interesting, no?
gravenimage says
DFD wrote:
…in the end I think it will come to the question what to chose: Sieg Hail or Allahu Akbar…”
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With all due respect, DFD, the idea that our only choices are Fascism or Islam is just not true.
The fact is that both Fascism and Islam are totalitarian creeds–as I also note, above–and that Hitler openly admired Islam, and wished that Germany had been an Islamic rather than a Christian nation.
I oppose Islam not just because it is horrific, but because I strongly support our own civilized values–I imagine this is true for most people here.
We did not have to become Fascists in order to defeat Hitler–and we do not have to adopt totalitarianism in order to defeat Islam, either.
Damocles Junior says
1, I assume you mean Oliver Cromwell. Yes, another great man who did his best to stop the rot in his own times.
2, Same here in Australia, typical conversation goes “I know I should not be saying this, but I don’t like the way they are letting all the Muslims and Indians etc into this country”. Once they know you are on side they really let you know their feelings.
3,Fascism; Most people do not have a clue as to what it really means. Basically it means the government is in control of the country, strong leadership, it encourages patriotism and nationalism (something sadly lacking in our own society) it encourages a strong national economy end enterprise, often with government involvement. Unfortunately fascism did have it’s ugly side in the 1930s. But it did make Germany great again after it’s devastation in WW1.
4, To call a person who opposes of even expresses concern about the present Islamic influx into the West a “fascist Nazi racist bigot etc” shows an extreme level of total ignorance. People who resort to this sort of name calling are often young female liberal arts students who’s political leanings are to the left of Karl Marx and know nothing about life, or the invaders themselves who are frightened of a clamp down on Islamic immigration or even deportation.
Greyhound Fancier says
Cromwell. Cromwell was the closest to a dictator Britain has had – and that Britain has chosen royal and Parliamentary rule ever since.
Baucent says
Cromwell was a dangerous man because like the jihadists he thought he was doing “God’s will”. Not a popular man in Ireland.
DFD says
To: Damocles Junior,
Thank you for your reply. What you say in your point “2” is precisely what I often hear as a lead in, then ‘it comes’ after a while.
What you say in your point “3” is also correct, most people have no clue whatsoever about ‘fascism’. I love it in particular when Americans talk about and condemn it. The Fasces are left and right, gold plated, and more than a man in height, presented in the US congress, left and right from the speaker… Abraham Lincoln’s hands in his Zeus temple are resting on a Fasce each, nicely chiselled into stone – oh well…
What you say about fascism is of course correct. My view however is that it is too vulnerable and suitable only for small societies. The US started out as a more or less fascist society, and still holds to many of its principles. But as I said, it is highly vulnerable and suitable only for small societies, just look at the three states where fascism is practised in, practically or nearly, its purest form. That is the application of direct democracy in: Sweden, California and Switzerland. Fascism can cope only up to a certain population density and complexity, then it simply cannot cope any more. I believe the only answer was given by one of the founding fathers of the US: “ The answer to the problems of democracy is more democracy”. Again, from a fascists point of view perfectly true. But consider the problem: If, in our modern societies, only half the decisions to be made were to be made by direct vote/plebiscite, or worse, at multiple local levels – utter chaos. IMO the idea or the ideal of the fascist society died with the inventors of the Fasces (the symbol of justice), and that’s the Roman Republic.
Not directly at you: “… the name calling .. Nazi … etc…” Islam and fascism are obviously not just mutually exclusive, but fundamentally hostile one to another. The bit a about ‘Nazi’, this is actually quite funny. There is on the ‘anti-jihad’ news groups now an anti-German propaganda run. Proclaiming, hilariously, that Hitler admired Islam as a religion. In his 12 year ‘career’ as a German leader, Austrian actually, he spent about between 4 and 6 minutes commenting on Islam. He expressed his admiration for the thoroughness of indoctrination in Islam, and the ruthlessness with which its doctrines are enforced. He hated religion, in his opinion religion was an expression of weakness. He did spent some time, perhaps a day, with a Palestinian Mullah/Imam/Mufti or whatever, in order to get Muslim troops fighting for him. He had no choice there, the allies were raising hordes of Muslim troops by the day, having the advantage of their respective empires. I wonder how people can fall for such propaganda crap, any ideas?
DFD says
To: Greyhound Fancier
Chromwell was indeed some sort of dictator. But he **enforced parliament against** the king!
The English have not chosen king and parliament against the will of Chromwell. On the contrary, Chromwell brought back the king from exile – for which the king thanked him with execution and mutilation. The king (or the crown in general) thereafter attempted, and to some extent succeeded, to reduce the powers of parliament. It took parliament a long time and struggle to regain most of the powers bestowed upon it by Chromwell. Incidentally, parliament wanted him to become king…
The round-hats weren’t fighting for Chromwell, they were paid by, and fought for the parliament. The chevaliers were fighting for the king.
gravenimage says
DFD wrote:
To: Damocles Junior…
What you say in your point “3” is also correct, most people have no clue whatsoever about ‘fascism’. I love it in particular when Americans talk about and condemn it. The Fasces are left and right, gold plated, and more than a man in height, presented in the US congress, left and right from the speaker… Abraham Lincoln’s hands in his Zeus temple are resting on a Fasce each, nicely chiselled into stone – oh well…
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DFD, the Fasces were a Roman symbol of authority–a bundle of sticks–that just is symbolic of our being stronger together than we are apart.
Modern Fascism did indeed take its name from this, as this creed esteems both the power of the state and collectivism–but that is pretty much where the similarities end.
The US is not being pro-Fascist in the modern sense when it uses this symbolism.
More:
What you say about fascism is of course correct. My view however is that it is too vulnerable and suitable only for small societies. The US started out as a more or less fascist society, and still holds to many of its principles. But as I said, it is highly vulnerable and suitable only for small societies, just look at the three states where fascism is practised in, practically or nearly, its purest form. That is the application of direct democracy in: Sweden, California and Switzerland.
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Well, we could argue this all day–none of these states are Fascist in the sense that Mussolini’s Italy and Hitler’s Germany were.
Certainly, there was little democracy, direct or otherwise, in either of these states.
More:
Not directly at you: “… the name calling .. Nazi … etc…” Islam and fascism are obviously not just mutually exclusive, but fundamentally hostile one to another. The bit a about ‘Nazi’, this is actually quite funny. There is on the ‘anti-jihad’ news groups now an anti-German propaganda run. Proclaiming, hilariously, that Hitler admired Islam as a religion. In his 12 year ‘career’ as a German leader, Austrian actually, he spent about between 4 and 6 minutes commenting on Islam. He expressed his admiration for the thoroughness of indoctrination in Islam, and the ruthlessness with which its doctrines are enforced. He hated religion, in his opinion religion was an expression of weakness. He did spent some time, perhaps a day, with a Palestinian Mullah/Imam/Mufti or whatever, in order to get Muslim troops fighting for him. He had no choice there, the allies were raising hordes of Muslim troops by the day, having the advantage of their respective empires. I wonder how people can fall for such propaganda crap, any ideas?
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Hitler’s words praising Islam were indeed pretty strong, DFD–he lamented that Germany was a Christian rather than an Islamic nation.
He also admired the Muslim Armenian Genocide, and patterned the Holocaust after it. He sneeringly said, “Who today remembers the Armenians?”.
Moreover, while Muslims generally hate and despise Infidels, they make a quite notable exception for Hitler:
“Germany: Muslims scream “Adolf Hitler” and “Allahu akbar,” make Nazi salute”
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2016/04/germany-muslims-scream-adolf-hitler-and-allahu-akbar-make-nazi-salute
“Turkey’s Erdogan: Hitler’s Germany exemplifies effective presidential system”
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2016/01/turkeys-erdogan-hitlers-germany-exemplifies-effective-presidential-system
A upscale mall in Turkey proudly displays banners of Hitler. There is a clothing store in Cairo named “Hitler”.
DFD, there is much that I admire about German culture– but I have to tell you, the Nazis are *not* part of that.
DFD says
To GravenImage
Graven, please: Don’t hold me responsible for what I hear and relay, that is the, rather frightening, tendencies of people. Please read what I said, also about the Fasces, as I said, that in it’s original meaning was buried with the Roman Republic. You did not read what I wrote, only an initial part to wake prejudice – which is, normally, not like you at all.
Now, about peoples perceptions, I am not surprised, and I expect things to get much, much worse. They have no choice left, no one to trust, to believe in. They want help, protection – moralizing in their situation means absolutely nothing.
And that’s all over Europe, not just the UK. Germans (at least the tourists I meet and talk too) are not as far ‘down the road’ as the English, for historical reasons. But it will come.
Read Gatestone: “Refugees or an Occupation Army?” the Greeks, particularly the second part. What choice is left for them? Would you lecture them? I wouldn’t, not only because I’d feel like a bloody hypocrite, but because I understand them. I can feel them when I talk to English, German and Dutch/Belgian tourists {though of the latter we get only few}. But I can feel them when they speak, their sorrow, fear and anger. I can see them wringing their hands and shaking their shoulders as if they are shivering.
If you wish to condemn me for what I reported, and therewith those whose sayings I relayed to you and other readers at JW, go right ahead. But have a read through this at Gatestones, and *listen to them, feel them * Here’s the link: https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/9071/greece-refugees-migrants
read in particular the second part and get their EMOTIONS, and their helplessness, their yearning for hope, for help.
Once again, before condemning me, read thoroughly what I wrote.
Best
gravenimage says
DFD wrote:
To GravenImage
Graven, please: Don’t hold me responsible for what I hear and relay, that is the, rather frightening, tendencies of people. Please read what I said, also about the Fasces, as I said, that in it’s original meaning was buried with the Roman Republic. You did not read what I wrote, only an initial part to wake prejudice – which is, normally, not like you at all.
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Thanks for the lengthy reply, DFD. I was not trying to be prejudicial at all–I hope I was not.
As for the original meaning of the Fasces being buried with the Roman Republic, this is not the case here. If you read work by the American Founding Fathers–and others all through the 19th and early 20th century–it is full of references to the Roman Republic as a metaphor and even rough model for the American Republic.
Recall that both the Lincoln Memorial and halls of Congress predate the rise of Axis Fascism in Europe in the early-mid 20th century. Their reference is to classical Rome, and does not include its later connotations.
More:
Now, about peoples perceptions, I am not surprised, and I expect things to get much, much worse. They have no choice left, no one to trust, to believe in. They want help, protection – moralizing in their situation means absolutely nothing.
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I’m not sure who you are referring to–native Europeans? I believe that the moral aspect is *key*–civilized Europeans don’t want to be conquered by ravening Muslims–that is very much a moral issue. Almost all of us in the West want to defend our values–if we did not care about this, we would all just convert to Islam.
More:
And that’s all over Europe, not just the UK. Germans (at least the tourists I meet and talk too) are not as far ‘down the road’ as the English, for historical reasons. But it will come.
Read Gatestone: “Refugees or an Occupation Army?” the Greeks, particularly the second part. What choice is left for them? Would you lecture them? I wouldn’t, not only because I’d feel like a bloody hypocrite, but because I understand them. I can feel them when I talk to English, German and Dutch/Belgian tourists {though of the latter we get only few}. But I can feel them when they speak, their sorrow, fear and anger. I can see them wringing their hands and shaking their shoulders as if they are shivering.
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I’m not “lecturing” the Greeks at all–I have many times here expressed sympathy and solidarity with them.
When the Greeks took back their civilized nation from centuries of Muslim occupation in the 19th century, they and their supporters made constant reference to their proud history as the cradle of democracy and Western civilization. This inspired brave men like Lord Byron who fought for the Greek cause.
More:
If you wish to condemn me for what I reported, and therewith those whose sayings I relayed to you and other readers at JW, go right ahead. But have a read through this at Gatestones, and *listen to them, feel them * Here’s the link: https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/9071/greece-refugees-migrants
read in particular the second part and get their EMOTIONS, and their helplessness, their yearning for hope, for help.
Once again, before condemning me, read thoroughly what I wrote.
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I wasn’t condemning you at all, DFD–I thought we were having a conversation.
I actually read the Gatestone article you linked to this morning–while not an Anti-Jihad site per se, they are often very good at covering these issues.
I’m not sure where you got the idea that I am not sympathetic to what the Greek people are going though. I wrote this here, just a few weeks ago:
gravenimage says
August 22, 2016 at 7:56 pm
Yes–that Greece is allowing in these ravening Mohammedans–especially given her history–is suicidal madness.
Reply
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2016/08/fake-passports-for-islamic-state-jihadis-found-in-greek-refugee-camps#comment-1507683
I can cite many other examples. I am sympathetic to Europeans in general–and to the whole of the West. I have many times here noted that while things are worse in some places than others, that *all* of us are in peril from the threat of Islam.
Greece is perhaps more vulnerable than any other European country, because they are a south-eastern “gateway” to Europe.
I always look for your posts, DFD, because you always have something interesting to say. Be well.
mortimer says
Stransky, You’re NUTS! Islam is Arab fascism. Mohammed is Hitler.
The ‘LEFT versus RIGHT’ terminology is no longer valid. What we see now is GLOBALISM versus DEMOCRACY.
GLOBALISM IS the NEW FASCISM.
Alien Republican says
“The ‘LEFT versus RIGHT’ terminology is no longer valid.” and “GLOBALISM IS the NEW FASCISM.”
I have been saying the first for a long time and the second seems a valid point of view. “Someone previously insisted that “fascism” historically originated in Italy. but I find that irrelevant since many use that word synonymously to totalitarian. Any ideology that does not take into account that human beings are unique will resort to inhuman approaches to level out or simple wipe out differences. I see almost daily that those in power (EU, Germany) are labelling dissenters as “undemocratic”. You see – according to their logic not sharing the right opinion is “undemocratic”. I can only come up with former and current communist regimes that have unamimous consent in elections or voting.
Gart says
No Leon it is not. Under Islam you could convert, even a Jew. What chance of that under the nazi’s? How would black people cope under the jack boot of fascism?
Georg says
well done. And I’m assuming he wants to outlaw the Koran for all its racism, violence and hatred…
Tom says
Britain and most of Europe is ruined by the Islamic plague!
The Democrats here want to admit them for more of a voting base.
I believe Merkel was abducted by aliens and the rectal probing went awry.
Europe is finished and we are next!
Taurus Caerulus says
Oh man. We’re diffusing and diffusing and create more psychological advantages for the #enemy!
Taurus Caerulus says
Defusing, i meant!
What the hell are islamists thinking theirselves?
They haven’t to inteferre in our european business.
They have to adjust, or to go(die) !
I think, some islamists know this action from their countries.
Alien Republican says
I’m aware that it might sound supremacist but in the end it is us Europeans that define who and what belongs to us and who and what won’t. I had the suppress the urge to write a string of four letter words regarding the religion of pieces out of respect for this site.
Taurus Caerulus says
Yes we european decide, what’s and which is good for us. The islamic thinking of supremacy goes out of it’s borders. Like Hitlers Doctrine
gravenimage says
Taurus Caerulus wrote:
What the hell are islamists thinking theirselves?
They haven’t to inteferre in our european business.
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That’s not how Muslims see it–as they see it, they have the right to force every place on earth to submit to Islam.
Taurus Caerulus says
That’s clear to Me. I’ve spoken reflective.
I can’t wait to use force on the islam pigs.
We are legitimated to, because it’s resistance against an enemy.
mortimer says
Taurus Caerulus , You are the enemy of democracy and freedom. You are the enemy of Jihad Watch.
Your Hitlerism is not welcome. You are amoral.
Taurus Caerulus says
@mortimer
Hitlerism? No! I would never kill a muslimic child, or girl unless it’s carrying a gun or it s willed to kill an infidel.
Only those men who are in fighting age!
What are you believin’ ?
In Hillerism?
@Herb Allen
Thanks for the patriotic support statement.
America need to repatriate just like europe.
The Islam as an authority in America?? No way..
I like america, but not your mafious government, which it’s still is.
And I also like the russians. If their should be a war in the world, that should be Gwot or counterjihad.
Westman says
In the US that word is more like dissipation.
We’re on a dissipation bender and won’t get sober until the first nuclear bomb goes off. It’s guns and butter party time in DC.
Our final choices for presidential candidates should be enough proof that our best leadership is somewhere else in a distraction-stupor or avoiding media target practice.
God save the Queen is an English tradition. When a nation jettisons their traditions, the social adhesive weakens, idenity is lost, and dissipation begins. King’s College students to Mahamed Abdullah: “bugger off!”
Voytek Gagalka says
Rush, people, and make copy of that song (current national anthem, no less) before leftists and islamofascists will ban it not only from “universities” but also from everywhere else, before singing it will prohibited and carry tough punishments equal to “hate crimes” and “Islamophobia”!
gravenimage says
Nope–we won this round. The university is keeping the Anthem. Don’t counsel surrender just yet.
Damocles Junior says
But this incident just may sow the seeds of dissent re the UK national anthem. Even once Great Britain has it’s own republican movement as well as a very weak Church. All very sad and worrying.
gravenimage says
This is true–I hope not, but this may be the first of many demands to ban the National Anthem. Britons need to stand up!
davej says
Right let’s ditch that outdated anthem and replace it with something more contemporary.
Maybe “Allah kill the Queen” would be more to their taste.
Or melody-less repetitions of Koranic instructions to slay the infidels wherever you find them.
b.a. freeman says
well, allah says that music is blasphemous, and we can’t have that …
Damocles Junior says
“Kill the Queen”, I am sure this the sentiment among the Islamic hordes now in Great Britain, BUT;
How much is all the extra security at the Palace costing?
How much extra does security at Royal appearances cost?
How much does the Office of Race Relations and its army of public servants cost the taxpayer?
How much does all the diversity training in the police, armed service and government departments cost?
How much has it cost to set up Asian (Read Muslim) crime task forces in the various police departments all around the UK?
Can we ever put a monetary cost on the total social disruption that Islam has caused in Great Britain? No, of course not, and now can someone tell me all of the benefits that come from them being there???
Greyhound Fancier says
Falafel?
Damocles Junior says
You like it? I have never tried it!
gravenimage says
Interesting about Falafel, GF and DJ. A few years ago, an Israeli journalist decided to find out once and for all if Falafel was a Jewish or a “Palestinian” culinary invention, as that was a running argument in Israel for many years.
He did some research, and found that is was developed by Coptic Christians as a dish for meatless Fridays.
Personally, I love Falafel–but it is not of course a big part of my life. But yes, Muslims cannot even claim this one.
Emilie Green says
“God Save the Queen”
Isn’t that the anthem of San Francisco’s Castro District?
mortimer says
Thanks for the chuckle.
Guest says
A person who has no respect for his country should leave. What’s wrong with loving your country? You can still love the world even if you love your country more, what’s wrong with that?
gravenimage says
Nothing, Guest. But decency and common sense are not much in evidence these days–especially on college campuses.
Alien Republican says
“Mahamed Abdullahi, from King’s College London Students’ Union said he wanted to scrap the national anthem because it’s “outdated” and “not reflective” of the global values.”
This man is a genius. I could come up with an endless list ouf outdated “values” and tenets of islam.
Mark A says
I note that the person advocating this is named Mahamed Abdullahi.
Is this person a Muslim? I’d be curious to know more about this person and his political activities and associations.
gravenimage says
Yeah, he’s a Muslim, Mark. He’s a member of King’s College student government–Vice President for Welfare and Community.
In his manifesto, he branded the Government’s anti-terror strategy “racist”, and said he wanted to “decolonise” the curriculum.
The student Vice President for Education is Mariya Hussain, an ostentatiously be-Hijabbed Muslimah. A third Muslim student officer is Momin Saqib, Vice President for Activities and Development.
Out of five student officers at King’s College, *three of them are Muslim*. Insanity…
https://www.kclsu.org/studentofficers/
The good news is that despite the fashionable Leftism at colleges, that his call for a ban on “God Save the Queen” is *not* going over well.
Here is a petition to keep the National Anthem at King’s College:
https://www.change.org/p/mahamed-abdullahi-keep-the-national-anthem-at-the-king-s-college-london-graduation-ceremony
The comments–including those from recent King’s College graduates–are very heartening.
Even more heartening is *this*–the university has backtracked, and will keep the National Anthem at graduation ceremonies:
“ANTHEM OUTRAGE Uni backtracks after saying it was ‘discussing’ banning National Anthem over links to ‘far right nationalism’ following complaint from student union welfare officer”
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/1939231/uni-ban-national-anthem-far-right-nationalism-student-union-welfare-officer-complains/
Speaking out *does* work! We have to keep standing up for our values.
dumbledoresarmy says
Yes.
I saw that too: that people got cross and got up a petition to *keep* the anthem.
Like the French singing the Marseillaise, the singing of God Save the Queen can become a sign of defiance, of reistance to Islamisation!
gravenimage says
Exactly, DDA!
Mark Swan says
Who else would be so proudly contemptuous as to suggest what He has.
Mark A says
For those who are unfamiliar with the lyrics of God Save The Queen, it goes:
“God save our gracious Queen
Long live our noble Queen,
God save our Queen.
Send her victorious,
Happy and glorious
Long to reign over us.
God save our Queen.”
I would be very interested to see an explanation of that “has links to far right extremism” and “outdated” and “not reflective of global values.”
And since when are national anthems supposed to reflect “global values.”
Alien Republican says
…and what exactly to “global values” entail ? Nohing and ervything. If you asked that mohammedan to provide a list of “global values” he subscribes to, he would be in real trouble.
gravenimage says
And Muslims don’t have “global values”, in any case–not in the sense of fuzzy Kumbaya universalism, certainly.
No, the “global values” of Muslims is the world-wide Caliphate and brutal Shari’ah law, where all Infidels are abused and oppressed, and those who run afoul of Islam are beheaded and stoned to death every Friday outside the local Mosque. *Ugh*.
Lioness says
New British national anthem:
Allah save our Caliphate
We are here to propagate
Muhammad is victorious
Allahu akbar glorious
Jihad is our way
With Kafirs we do away
Salome says
And then there’s verse 2:
O Lord our God, arise;
Scatter our enemies
And make them fall.
Confound their politics;
Frustrate their knavish* tricks–
On Thee our hopes we fix:
God save us all.
In some editions, ‘popish’. I think ‘Frustrate their muslim tricks’ would probably be the appropriate version these days.
gravenimage says
Yes–of course a Mohammedan does not want a song that has Infidels defending themselves!
sencit says
Salome, that is the third verse. The second verse reads:
God save our Queen and bless
Her reign with righteousness,
Long may she reign.
May she defend our laws
And ever give us cause
To sing with heart and voice
God save the Queen.
dumbledoresarmy says
I like that verse. I think it should be sung with great gusto by the Resistance in Britain.
Let’s hear it again:
“O Lord our God, arise;
Scatter our enemies
And make them fall.
Confound their politics;
Frustrate their knavish* tricks–
On Thee our hopes we fix:
God save us all.”
dumbledoresarmy says
Here’s an idea. Substitute ‘Ummah” for ‘knavish”.
Angemon says
*looks at name*
Gee, what a surprise…
August West says
Perhaps they will switch to the Sex Pistols version of God Save the Queen as an alternative?
gravenimage says
UK: University considering banning “God Save the Queen”: it’s “far right”
THE ICONIC God Save The Queen could be banned by a university from its graduation ceremony because the anthem “has links to far right nationalism”.
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Now loving your civilized nation and upholding its values is “far right”–what suicidal madness.
More:
Mahamed Abdullahi, from King’s College London Students’ Union said he wanted to scrap the national anthem because it’s “outdated” and “not reflective” of the global values.
“In the context of increasing far right nationalism across Europe and the legacy of the British empire, it’s just a bit s*** and it doesn’t even bang. Basically, f*** the nation state.”
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Mohammedans are *always* happy to use Infidel concepts–“social justice” comes to mind–against the “filthy Kuffar”.
Most will assume that Mahamed Abdullahi wants to replace the nation state with some sort of vague globalist universalism, as do Leftist Infidel students.
Now, this is stupid enough, in any case–as though England and France are no different from Yemen and Zimbabwe in values, decency, and quality of life.
But this from Muslims is actually far darker than this common-place quasi-Marxist stupidity so rife on college campuses–what they have in mind is the global Caliphate–and we just need to glance at the sanguinary Islamic State to see what a horror *that* is.
Mark Swan says
Absolutely true gravenimage
gravenimage says
Thanks, Mark.
Richard Paulsen says
Ask them to leave UK and Europe? No one will for sure. More and more in Europe surely wish they would.
Richard Paulsen says
Obvioulsy more right wing nationalism is needed.
Mark Swan says
Richard Paulsen, You are right, there is a lot to be said for those who are loyal to their
Nation and its People, and it is all good.
Richard Paulsen says
Right.
Georg says
I was wondering what Mahamed Talibani al-Qaida Dawla Islamiya Shabaab Abu Sayyaf Hamasi Hizballah Jihadi Jaish al-Islami Lashkar-e Tayyiba Aqsa Martyrs Brigade Shahid AQAP Mujahedeen Haqqani Ansar al-Dine Boko Harami al-Nusra Korasani thought of the Queen.
Duly noted.
August West says
“In the context of increasing far right nationalism across Europe and the legacy of the British empire, it’s just a bit s*** and it doesn’t even bang. Basically, f*** the nation state.”
This Comment is generally consistent with what I have come to expect University level discourse.
The University in question is located in London which has a Muslim Mayor (Caliph Kahn). Expect the values of London to change very quickly. Banning the National Anthem is just one step along the way.
How long it will be before they stop playing the US National Anthem before NFL games?
Perhaps they will replace the US National Anthem with a picture of Goldstein and a 2 minute hate before every NFL game?
All this is happening while we appear to be getting ready to go to war with Russia.
b.a. freeman says
here in the u.s., we have a constitutional guarantee of free speech, even if the speech is objectionable to the majority. in europe, lack of free speech is going to cause civil wars, since speech is not an allowed outlet. it will take the u.s. at least one or two years longer than europe to reach the same point … but it’s coming.
Mubarak says
What really rubs the Muslim guy the wrong way is the National Anthems lyric inspiration from psalm 55 and psalm 68.
gravenimage says
Well, this is true–although it is unlikely that an ignorant tool like Mahamed Abdullahi is familiar with this.
But Mubarak is actually quite knowledgeable about Christian scripture.
This does not prevent him from championing Muslim rape, however. Here he is, on this thread, claiming that we deserve to be raped by his foul coreligionists. The exchange starts here:
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2016/09/italy-expels-muslim-cleric-who-said-islam-fully-incompatible-with-italian-law#comment-1518360
Among other horrifying things, he says *this*:
Mubarak says
September 11, 2016 at 5:29 am
A culture that, as a protest against Muslim rapist, produces young, moronic males in miniskirts – https://youtu.be/lQIdhdQKDCE – doesn’t that culture deserve to be raped?
Mubarak says
Here is some more Christian scripture we should be knowledgeable about:
Out in the open wisdom calls aloud, she raises her voice in the public square;
21
on top of the wall[d] she cries out, at the city gate she makes her speech:
22
“How long will you who are simple love your simple ways? How long will mockers delight in mockery and fools hate knowledge?
23
Repent at my rebuke! Then I will pour out my thoughts to you, I will make known to you my teachings.
24
But since you refuse to listen when I call and no one pays attention when I stretch out my hand,
25
since you disregard all my advice and do not accept my rebuke,
26
I in turn will laugh when disaster strikes you; I will mock when calamity overtakes you—
27
when calamity overtakes you like a storm, when disaster sweeps over you like a whirlwind, when distress and trouble overwhelm you.
28
“Then they will call to me but I will not answer; they will look for me but will not find me,
29
since they hated knowledge and did not choose to fear the Lord.
30
Since they would not accept my advice and spurned my rebuke,
31
they will eat the fruit of their ways and be filled with the fruit of their schemes.
32
For the waywardness of the simple will kill them, and the complacency of fools will destroy them;
33
but whoever listens to me will live in safety and be at ease, without fear of harm.”
Mubarak says
PS: please notice verse 32!
Does that give you any allusions?
Mubarak says
PPS: http://www.city-journal.org/html/trumped-outrage-14777.html
Does such a culture, as the one described by Heather Mac Donald in this article, not invite rape?
Greyhound Fancier says
I tried to speak with my daughter about the importance of women being careful to not drink too much alcohol when out with a date, because she’d have to rely on the man’s chivalry to protect her (rather than the man taking advantage), but I couldn’t even finish a sentence, because in her (liberal) opinion, I was blaming the victim.
Our society now denies reality, biology, the differences between men and women, and even that there ARE men and women – all this weakens us to be vulnerable to the depredations of Mohammedanism, and also attracts Mohammedans’ attention to us.
When Christians were overwhelmed by Mohammedans in the Middle East in the 8th and 9th centuries, they wondered if the Lord had allowed the Mohammedans to punish the Christians for their sins. Let us repent, and hope that we don’t have to choose between our life and our faith, and that we can take care of our business so our children and grandchildren can live free of fear of Mohammedans.
Kay says
@ Mubarak
You are disgusting.
You pretend but do not know Scripture, which is a way to know God.
Satan also quoted Scripture. And so to you I say: the Lord rebuke you!
gravenimage says
The idea that Proverbs 1:23 – 1:33 is lauding those who harm others is *utterly* false.
Kay, you are *quite* right.
Right now, the West is being foolish in letting hordes of rapist Muslims–but that is *exactly* what the vile Mubarak is demanding we do.
Mazo says
Cravenmirage.
Mubarak is a Christian. He is railing against femenism and homosexuality and calling for a return to strict Christianity like Kepha. Kepha has criticized feminism and homosexuality and he has insinuated that the west is getting punished by Islam for hedonistic behavior.
Mubarak described Islam as an “infection”, called Muslims “rapists” and called on westerners to follow Christianity.
Does Cravenmirage think anyone will believe Cravenmirage’s charade of pretending Mubarak is Muslim?
gravenimage says
I said that Mubarak has praised Muslim rape–he has, in fact, done little else since he arrived here, lauding the Muslim rapists who assaulted women in European cities on New Year’s Eve.
Then he claimed that the reason these women deserved to be raped was because they dared to go out to a public fireworks display.
The idea that Christians are demanding that women not be allowed to go out to public celebrations is utterly false. The idea that they are lauding Muslim rapists is false, as well.
On another thread, Mubarak lauded a Muslim who *raped a six year old boy*–because the boy and his father attended a youth wrestling match. The idea that Christians are denouncing youth wrestling as a societal evil is quite false, and that they would advocate *child rape* is even more appalling.
And this is the second time that Mazo has implied that Kepha is himself praising Muslim rapists.
This is utter calumny against a respected poster here.
Mazo says
Cravenmirage knows full well that Mubarak denounced mixed gender youth wrestling between males and females and that he denounced women’s dress as unmoderate.
Cravenmirage is as craven a liar as ever.
gravenimage says
Mazo wrote:
Cravenmirage (sic) knows full well that Mubarak denounced mixed gender youth wrestling between males and females and that he denounced women’s dress as unmoderate.
Cravenmirage (sic) is as craven a liar as ever.
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The article never said that the youth wrestling match was mixed gender–that was Mubarak’s fantasy.
But the ban on the mixing of genders is an *Islamic* ban, in any case–there is no such ban in Christianity, despite what he pretends.
Mubarak also said that Westerners deserved to be raped because of Victoria’s Secret ads, and because Infidels dared *to protest Muslim rape*.
None of this is inaccurate–all of it is in the Jihad Watch archives.
Note that the foul Mazo has never once come to the aid of Christians here over the years–not when Christians have had their churches burned down, not when they are abducted, not when they are raped, not when they are used as sex slaves, not when they are mass-slaughtered.
But now we are supposed to believe that he is rushing to defend a Christian here? Try again, Mohammedan.
The fact is that Muslims have done this before: Muslimah Rezali Mehil has lambasted devout Christians Champ and Dumbledore’s Army as “false Christians” for daring to say that we should defend our loved ones against Jihad.
As Muslims would have it, no one is a “true” Christian unless they bare their throats–and the throats of their children–for the Islamic blade.
It is just the same with Mubarak–that Christians are not “real” Christians unless they import large numbers of violent Muslims to rape them to atone for the supposed sins of Western society.
He would have us believe that Christians actually applaud Muslims raping their Infidel victims–including *small children*–in the streets. What sickening crap.
Moreover, I have asked him over and over again, if Muslims are raping Westerners because they are so “decadent”, why are they also raping devout Christian girls in places like Nigeria, and raping elderly nuns in their own convents in India, and using socially conservative Yezidi girls as sex slaves in places like the Islamic State?
Of course he never answers this–it destroys his “narrative”. The fact is that Muslims are raping and murdering Christians and other Infidels *all over the world*, not just in the supposedly decadent West.
So–what is the point of Muslims pushing this meme? It is quite clear–if they can convince us that “real” Christians–and their ‘post-Christian’ moral heirs–are supposed to guiltily invite in violent Muslims and do nothing to defend against their depredations, then it makes their conquest *much* easier. *Ugh*.
Mazo says
Kepha has attacked feminism and homosexuality as deviant and attacked modernist Christians as insincere in their faith. He attacks homos and femenists when an article about homosexual assaults or rapes appears. Cravenmirage is a serial liar, having first mislabeled Mubarak, Cravenmirage will not backtrack on the false accusation.
gravenimage says
I have mislabled nothing.
And once again, Mazo is implying that Kepha has lauded Muslims raping us, which is the most grotesque calumny.
*Of course* Mazo likes to pretend that devout Christians are demanding that Muslims be allowed to flood into the West in great numbers, so that the West can “atone” for its supposed decadence by being raped by his foul coreligionists.
This is, in fact, just the sort of suicidal foolishness that the Bible warns about. The idea that it is *advocating* this sort of this is absurd.
But why would Mazo suggest anything else? He has never made a secret of his wanting to see us fall to Islam.
Wellington says
Just one more example of control-freak rot by Buttlims (I often call them this because Muslims can’t even manage to pray with dignity—-no, they pray with their butts in the air and look utterly ridiculous doing so). Put another way, all non-Muslims must acclimate to Muslim assessments but Muslims need not at all acclimate to non-Muslim assessments, unless it is for temporary taqiyya purposes.
Islam is loaded with faults, never mind all the bullshit in it. One of them is its control-freak element. Another is its total lack of graciousness. This helps to explain in part why it has no Golden Rule for all but only for fellow Buttlims who, per what is found in Sura 3, are the “best of peoples.” And, it should be noted, said Buttlims, per Islamic law, look upon all kuffaars as the equivalent of human waste.
I hate Islam. Those who are knowledgeable and prize things like freedom, equality under the law, women’s rights, music, beer, romantic love, et al., should hate Islam. Not hating this decrepit and desultory religion, I would contend, is itself dispositive of a major deficiency in and of itself in any adult. No exceptions. None.
Chris says
It’s not even prayer – just a bunch of hypocrites making a phony pretence to pray! Thus by doing so they are showing the rest of sane humanity that they support the evil ideology of a murderous, misogynist, pedophile- they should be utterly ashamed of themselves!
Mark Swan says
Absolutely Chris
Larry A. Singleton says
I’ve been studying this “Islam thing” for the past six years. I knew next to nothing about this issue until I happened to read two books almost back to back; The Haj by Leon Uris and Because They Hate by Brigitte Gabriel. Six years later curiosity has become an almost fear based obsession with books going from floor to ceiling and filing cabinets with hundreds of articles, essays and reports. I used to go to city and county meetings and raise hell at city hall on local issues. But nothing has put the fear of God into me as what I’ve absorbed about Islam and Muslims.
I’m a construction worker who has seen what illegal immigration has done to California and Muslims are illegals to the tenth power when it comes to comparing the two.
As I saw the cancer that was millions of jobs disappearing, whole trades being taken over by illegals; the same people who facilitated this plague are the same ones now rolling out the red carpet to our Islamic enemies.And in my hometown of San Bernardino it wasn’t just lost jobs, it was lost lives when 14 people were slaughtered and our local “leaders” crawling on their bellies to the terrorist’s mosque to “reassure” Muslims THEY had nothing to fear!!!
I was the only one at a following (a scarcely attended) city council meeting on “security measures” who spoke out on “Islamic terrorism” which never even came up. The only issues being discussed were “body cameras” and “license plate readers”. The word “terrorism” was never uttered.
Our schools and universities, its textbooks, our city halls; “Human Relations Commissions”, “Interfaith” churches, local media have all been permeated, infiltrated and infested by Islam (CAIR). With the local “Islamic Centers” and mosques (and CAIR) operating as influence and propaganda operations.
I just finished Andrew Bostom’s book Sharia vs. Freedom who compares communism with Islam, and the “Red Scare” with the “spread of Islam”. What most people don’t realize is that the “Red Scare”, usually described in “scare quotes”, was a real threat. (A great book is Disinformation by General Pacepa.)
Fortunately we had an America that didn’t have to “wake up” to the extent that we do now. Compared to back then, today America is a drunk asleep at the wheel. The majority of Americans being too stupid and too lazy to study and inform themselves on the issues or READ. As a matter of fact I think the average 8th Grader at the turn of the century had more basic common sense, moral aptitude and thinking ability than your average college graduate has today.
I know it sounds stupid; but thank God for movies. Usually after a few hours in the morning of reading and a few hours of FrontPage Magazine, Jihad Watch, the Middle East Forum and others in the afternoon I need to zone out. When I first started learning about this and seeing the NON-reaction of people I was off all four walls, kicking over the furniture and cussing like the sailor I used to be, ranting like a lunatic all across the web. It truly was enough to drive you crazy.
As it is now, I’ve collected and committed the most relevant articles, essays and videos to paper under different topics and try and share them in comments and Fakebook pages and the results are almost as frustrating; nobody cares. All I get from Fakebook “Friends” is silence or “Invites” to play Farmville or Poker. Or just dumb silence while this Traitor in Chief sells us out to Iran, collaborates with our enemies, incites race riots and cop murders across the country and gives away the Internet. Rome is burning while Americans are watching: 1) The Walking Dead on AMC 2) NFL Sunday Night Football on NBC.
But then again, the Trump Clinton Debate was one of the most watched in US history…..so maybe there’s hope. Though I sincerely doubt it.
Kay says
I feel the same but am still too frightened to express it.
Thanks for the references.
Wellington says
Hell of a post, Larry. Thanks for it.
Well,, there is nothing those who understand what Islam really intends for all of us can do but keep up the fight—-by telling others, by commenting on the Internet, by writing our politicians, et al. What’s the alternative? To give up? Never. Glad you’re with the informed good guys, Larry. We need people like you. Take care.
P.S. Last night’s debate gave me a little more hope too. My God, Clinton is so vile and foolish. Whatever Trump lacks, it as nothing compared to what she lacks.
Alien Republican says
“When I first started learning about this and seeing the NON-reaction of people I was off all four walls,”. I found it hard to talk about the subject with friends who wer “uninitiated”. There are so many outlandish things in islam, that it is easy to be seen as a “weirdo”. It’s probably even worse if most of your friends are seculars and suddenly you start to show an “interest” in religion. Whenever the occasion arises I might drop a question or two hoping that it will spark a chain reaction in their minds but I’m reluctant otherwise.
gravenimage says
Thanks for a great post, Larry. I think all of us have been where you are–where others are deep in denial of the Jihad threat.
But just like those warning about the threat of Communism and Fascism, we have to persevere. Hang in there, Larry–you are *not* alone.
Mark Swan says
Hang in there Larry A. Singleton, Maybe if Mr. Trump gets elected, we can all see
the machine hit its brakes and throw it in reverse, maybe.
utis says
The fact that the school is even “considering” dropping the anthem is a disgrace. Western political and academic institutions are swarming with smarmy Quislings. Muslims won’t clean their own house, but we keep our own sell-outs to a minimum.
By the way a “geography graduate” — really? Does school also give Ph.D.’s in home economics and shop?
gravenimage says
utis, there are lots of bullsh*t degrees in colleges these days, but geography is not one of them. Here are top-ranking Geography Departments at American universities–including my own alma mater University of California:
http://www.justinholman.com/2012/02/25/top-20-graduate-geography-programs-in-the-u-s/
In my experience, students often link such a degree with other studies–geography and politics, geography and history, geography and geology, etc.
Of course, as in any other field, this does not mean that all those who graduate with a degree in geography are great scholars.
Larry A. Singleton says
Our value system is going right down the crapper. The National Anthem in America is under attack. Now the National Anthem of God Save the Queen is on the outs in Britain. I keep saying that we’ve gone from the Greatest Generation to the Generation of Degenerates.
Come next year I’ll be sixty years old. I’m glad I’m not going to be around to see just the results of this Traitor in Chief’s damage that he’s done to the future of this country. “Catastrophic” is the word that keeps popping up in my mind.
I used to be a pot smoking hippie back in the 70’s but my mind was never as far gone as what I see in our kids today who aren’t even on drugs.
This past eight years has been almost a daily dose of bad news exemplified by the perpetual conga line of corrupt Obummer lackeys who have been hauled before congressional hearings, who have lied, denied and pled the fifth. The continuous theme being the mealy-mouthed evasive answers given to direct questions by the sock-puppets of Hillary and Obummer.
It’s not even a matter of “comparison” when it comes to people like Nixon or even Carter. This administration has been in a class all by itself. “Unprecedented” being the word that is going to precede every description of these traitor’s “legacies” of criminal acts, treason and general mayhem inflicted on this country at every level.
Kumi Ho says
What a shocker, a Muslim in favor of open borders want to remove an anthem where God and a woman monarch are mentioned. Effing moron. The UK would be wise to boot his jihadi ass.
Gray says
I’m curious as to why this (alleged) graduate chose to be educated at an institution called ‘Kings College, London.’ Surely an ‘Islamic University’ somewhere in the Middle East would be more to his taste, and less offensive to his oh-so- easily-offended sensibilities? The University of London is a Federal university, made up of a number of largely autonomous schools and colleges, overseen by a governing body established within that Federal structure. I graduated from another College within the University of London called ‘Queen Mary College.’ I shudder to think what sort of name change the current student union might like to see there. Thirty-five years ago, when I graduated, the University of London had an enviably high international reputation, particularly within my area of study. Many of our teachers were acknowledged leaders in their field, and had written the standard textbooks. It’s very sad to see my old University being dragged down the plug hole in this fashion. The city now has its first Muslim Mayor, so the portents for the city, and its University, seem uniformly bad.
Kay says
They use us (for many purposes) then get a new horse to ride.
gravenimage says
All true. Islam wants to conquer the entire world.
Carmel says
I suggest that King ‘s College should be renamed to. Why not Islam Center or Dhimmi Complex ?
Hope everybody notice that authorities of the university admits they are having ” discussions ” on the subject . Just admitting they are having discussion , means they don’t stick hard to their patriotic values.
Pour UK . I’m sorry for you you have so pussy men at the top of your institution .
Smart guy says
Without Oliver Cromwell the King and the Royalists would have ended Religious freedom and Protestantism. America which was founded by the same Puritans as Cromwell became a republic.
In comparing Queen Elizabeth II with Queen Elizabeth I. The Spanish invasion of 1588 ended with the
defeat of the Spanish navy and Queen Elizabeth I said that no quarter should be given to any Spaniard
who tried to land. In comparison to Queen Elizabeth I Queen Elizabeth II is totally useless. The pen is mightier than the sword. The refusal of the Queen to speak out against Islam only proves that she is the most useless monarch to sit on the throne of England. !!! God save the Queen????
God is not going to save such a useless piece of a coward.
Larry says
Oliver Cromwell ended religious freedom in England for a time, and was the only ruler that I can find who had an official Witch Finder General whose job was to go around the country and find women to burn.
BLC says
The Queen traditionally doesn’t get involved in politics.
gravenimage says
Smart Guy, your idea that the British monarchy falling to Islam would be a *good thing* is pretty questionable. Whatever you think of the current queen, this would do *nothing* but embolden supremacist Muslims.
Hummer says
The UK had better start cleaning house and deport the enemy within. Truly they are a long ways gone even tolerating this crap. Brexit is just a start to coming to common sense. The UK loves their royalty and they had better start putting deeds with it.
Richard Paulsen says
All this money being spent on mosques in the Western World. Instead of being spent on helping and developing people in need in arab and muslim states.
They do not care about their own, just thinking of spreading islam and fighting each other and others. Others should not allow,
So up and down.
RK says
WAKE UP AMERICA -WAKE THE HELL UP- U KNOW THAT OLD SAYING: GIVE THEM AN INCH AND THEY’LL TAKE A MILE. WELL THIS IS ABOUT TAKING OVER OUR COUNTRIES, SO WAKE THE HELL UP! — ITS ASSIMULATE TO US, (NOT US ASSIMULATING TO U IN OUR OWN COUNTRY), OR GET THE HELL OUT, PERIOD.
steve says
Our Queen should insist on withdrawing the ‘King’ title from King’s College The new name should be one which reflects the new ‘culture’ and lowbrow types who infest its once hallowed halls. They are characterless and limp-wristed Perhaps ‘Khan Academy’ to honour the new Mayor ? Yes .. so, we have The London Khan academy, specialising in and welcoming all invertebrates.
gravenimage says
Don’t give them any ideas…
Jürg Rückert says
Great Britain started with Elizabeth I and ends with E. II.
gravenimage says
Don’t count Britain out yet–Britons rallied and King’s College is keeping the National Anthem. A small victory–but still heartening. There *are* patriots in Albion.
Carolyne says
Really, this moron’s suggestion that the British national anthem should be done away with is not that far-fetched. Prince Charles himself, not known for his intellect, says that he wishes to be known, when King, as “Defender of Faith.” This as opposed to “Defender of THE faith.” Likely this idea came to him from his best pal, the Sultan of Brunei, who has multiple wives. In fact, Charles once said he wished he had two wives, jokingly I know, but underneath some jokes is a morsel of truth.
While I am not a Monarchist, being an American whose country did away with that sort of thing, I rather enjoy the idea of a British monarch. Sort of like a line from “Fiddler on the Roof: “God bless and keep the Tsar, far away from us.”
gravenimage says
I agree with you about the disgusting Islamophile Charles. But his sons William and Harry seem *much* saner.
John A. Marre says
In just a few years the Queen will be bowing down towards Mecca, and the cross will be gone from the British flag.
Matthieu Baudin says
Their own constitutional head of state and a life long defender of freedom; what a disgraceful slur to level against the country and its institutions.
gravenimage says
Both Fascism and Islam are totalitarian creeds–that Hitler and Muslims are a mutual admiration society should surprise no one.
Praeceptor Maximus says
Indeed, gravenimage. Islam is a political system thinly veiled in religion. When Muhammad fled to Medina and took up the sword to spread his evil doctrine, Islam as a religion died and political Islam was born.
gravenimage says
Very true–there is no “spiritual” Islam.