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Video: Robert Spencer on why non-devout Muslims sometimes turn to jihad terror

Oct 19, 2016 12:38 pm By Robert Spencer

In this new video, I discuss how the recent jihad attackers in New York and Minnesota may have opted to commit jihad violence: to redeem themselves after lives of sin and lack of interest in Islam. Call it redemptive jihad.

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  1. Beagle says

    Oct 19, 2016 at 1:12 pm

    The only verse of the Quran which purports to bind the arbitrary and capricious Allah is al-Tawbah (9).111. It reads as an ironclad guarantee that one who kills for Allah and dies gets into ‘paradise.’ It even claims this promise applies to Christians and Jews, who apparently missed the calls to murder in their own holy texts. Islam is, after all, a replacement theology coming as it does last in time of the three faiths. Islam replaces salvation, grace, faith and good deeds with murder.

    Until I began to study Islamic theology 16 years ago this month, after the USS Cole attack, the news made no sense. Now the news is still terrible, ordinarily much worse actually, but at least I understand why.

    • rara says

      Oct 19, 2016 at 5:52 pm

      Thanks for pointing that detail. I’ve checked, and to me it looks exactly as bad as you describe. Worth quoting the verse in full (Sahih International translation):

      “Indeed, Allah has purchased from the believers their lives and their properties [in exchange] for that they will have Paradise. They fight in the cause of Allah , so they kill and are killed. [It is] a true promise [binding] upon Him in the Torah and the Gospel and the Qur’an. And who is truer to his covenant than Allah ? So rejoice in your transaction which you have contracted. And it is that which is the great attainment.”

      Inhumanely scary.

      • Karen says

        Oct 20, 2016 at 10:10 pm

        I wonder if Muslims know that no such “promise” exists in the Bible, and that only the Koran celebrates this contract.

        They kill and are killed…..,

  2. thelastvirgingoat says

    Oct 19, 2016 at 1:34 pm

    The 9-11 hijackers went to strip clubs.
    IS gives instructions on how to behave like a moderate Muslim. The public see this but our brightest and best can’t seem to figure this out. Hence Trump supporters and sympathisers are viewed as badly educated angry white men and Christian fanatics. The indoctrination goes deep very deep.

  3. Know Thy Enemy says

    Oct 19, 2016 at 2:02 pm

    Great explanation. Thank you Robert.

    I have a question regarding jihadists and I was hoping you could answer. Jihadis can be unusually cruel towards their victims. We all know how cruel ISIS is. The jihadis who attacked the Kenya mall a few years ago gouged the eyes of one of their victims [before killing her] and committed other atrocities. What they did to the kids in Beslan, Russia was so horrendous, I believe it is unparalleled.

    And this is not something new. The early Sikh history has many tales of Muslims’ gruesome cruelty, and we know it is true because today, ISIS does same things.

    But what is the Islamic justification behind all this? Of course there are many injunctions in Islamic sources that talk about killing people or beheading them, but I have not come across anything that seem to command jihadists to indulge in extreme cruelty while murdering their victims. So why do jihadists do it and which Islamic sources back this?

    Thanks in advance.

    • Beagle says

      Oct 19, 2016 at 2:38 pm

      The Westgate fingertip amputations and various beheadings (like the OK jihadist on his Facebook page) have been rationalized by 8.12:

      https://quran.com/8

      See 5.33 as well. That’s not comprehensive, but a start.

  4. Stephanie says

    Oct 19, 2016 at 2:06 pm

    3:10 https://quran.com/23/102-104

    https://twitter.com/schnellmann_org/status/788803338787778560

  5. Richard Paulsen says

    Oct 19, 2016 at 2:14 pm

    Sure 2, 194 Al-Baqarah

    „Und bekämpfet sie, bis die Verfolgung aufgehört hat und der Glauben an Allah (frei) ist. (…)“
    ” And do fight them, until the persecution ends and you are free to Believe in Allah. “

  6. Michael Copeland says

    Oct 19, 2016 at 2:43 pm

    Thank you: succinct and clear.

    On a different topic….. the sound track is a little indistinct.

  7. DHazard says

    Oct 19, 2016 at 4:12 pm

    If the dead Jiiadis, who died as “martyrs”, could return to tell others of their true fate Islam would die. There is no God who is pleased with the slaughter of innocent people. Allah does not exist but the cult of Muhammad continues to trap people in a web of shame and reward. Killing non-Muslims is the easiest way for a guilt ridden Muslim to feel good about themselves. And Muslims have so many rules and restrictions to follow that it’s almost impossible to guarantee entry into Paradise by merely living a normal, decent, imperfect human life. It is also easy to see that Islam teaches that failing to kill or subjugate non-Muslim, if one is able, is a sin. The world is full of under educated, superstitious Muslims who will actually fall for the manipulative words of a dead, cold blooded con man. Even those Muslims who don’t want to get their hands dirty will feel a second hand sense of self-righteous confirmation when a fellow Muslim goes all the way by ridding the Earth of non-believers.

    • rara says

      Oct 19, 2016 at 5:57 pm

      Voltaire, almost 300 years ago, 1742, writing about that con man:

      “I will readily acknowledge, that we ought to respect him, if born a legitimate prince, or called to government by the voice of the people, he had instituted useful and peaceful laws like Numa, or like Theseus defended his countrymen: but for a driver of camels to stir up a faction in his village; to associate himself with a set of wretched Koreish, and persuade them that he had an interview with the angel Gabriel; to boast that he was carried up to heaven, and there received part of that unintelligible book which contradicts common sense in every page; that in order to procure respect for this ridiculous performance he should carry fire and sword into his country, murder fathers, and ravish their daughters, and after all give those whom he conquered the choice of his religion or death; this is surely what no man will pretend to vindicate, unless he was born a Turk, and superstition had totally extinguished in him the light of nature.”

      (from the letter to the king of Prussia)

  8. David says

    Oct 19, 2016 at 6:40 pm

    Islam is a mental illness,

  9. Dom107 says

    Oct 20, 2016 at 9:38 am

    Robert is right and this is why allowing Muslims into our Western countries or indeed any country which values freedom is foolish and risky and the larger the numbers coming in the bigger the risk until it is a certainty that our societies will become destabilized and riven with factions continuously at war like all of the existing Islamic countries in the world today
    The Roman Catholic Church also has a concept of martyrdom where all “sins” committed in your past life will be wiped clean if you die rather than renounce your faith.But this is now regarded as a passive act and their “holy” books are not interpreted today as going out and killing non-believers. It was however during the Crusades. These Crusades were designated by the pope as “Holy” wars and those killed while killing Muslims were told they would go straight to “Heaven” even if they had lived the most debauched and evil lives.This would obviously attract every bad guy who loved killing,robbing and raping and didn’t even have to express remorse but was guaranteed fast track to “Heaven/Paradise” just like the guy in Roberts piece.
    How crazy and fictional this all is and perhaps as a result of the inhumane acts of the extreme Islamist s we see today humans can turn away from all religions and embrace rationalism and science as the only way forward to true enlightenment and maybe eventually Paradise on Earth or somewhere else in this vast Universe

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