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Why Egypt’s Muslims Are Bitter Towards Coptic Christians

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An analysis of this story.

At a time when Coptic Christians are suffering abuses “every two or three days” in Egypt, a Muslim woman in America has made a video calling for more Muslim hostility against the Christian minority, in this case, in the guise of an economic boycott.

In a video, Ayat Oraby—a Muslim Brotherhood sympathizer who has nearly 1.5 million followers on Facebook—recently called the Coptic church a “bunch of gangsters,” a “total mafia” that “rules [Egypt] behind the curtains.” The Copts are reportedly “stockpiling weapons in churches” and “striving to create a Coptic statelet” in order to continue waging “a war against Islam.”

Meanwhile, back in the real world, which consists of 196 nations, Egypt is the 22nd worst nation for Christians to live in; the persecution level that Christians experience is formally categorized as “severe.”  For decades Christian churches have faced immense restrictions that mosques, which litter Egypt’s landscape, do not; Coptic women and children are regularly abducted and forced to convert; entire Christian villages and churches are set aflame on the rumor that a Christian somewhere “blasphemed” against Muhammad on social media.

But Oraby is not one to be bothered with facts; according to the angry Muslima, Muslims need to be more hostile towards the Coptic Christians—whom she numbers as only 4.5 million—for they are “stockpiling weapons in their churches” in preparation of that day when they proclaim a “jihad” on Egypt’s 80 million Muslims and declare a “Coptic statelet.”

That Oraby hates Copts simply because they are Christians—as opposed to all her nonsensical talk of a hostile Coptic takeover—came out very clearly towards the end of her tirade, when she said: “They [Copts] must learn very well that the Crescent [Islam] must be above the Cross [Christianity.]” In other words, her anger is not because the Copts pose a danger to Egypt’s Muslims, but because they dare to want equal rights—when they should know their place, that is, beneath Muslims, just as the Cross is well beneath the Crescent in Egypt.

Oraby is an old breed of Egyptian Muslim. Her ancestors—like the ancestors of practically every modern Egyptian Muslim—were Coptic Christians who, after Islam’s invasion in the 7th century, couldn’t handle the persecution and discrimination, and eventually sold out by converting to Islam. It irks Muslims like Oraby to see the remaining descendants of Egypt’s indigenous Christians still defiantly holding out and even daring to call for the equality that her family only got by surrendering to Islam.

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    • Welcome to the truth YES native Egyptians Muslims are originally Coptic and converted from Christianity to Islam to escape persecution in the last 14 centuries that is the truth where as the Christians they remained Christian out of there hard work back then through labour work and barter like offering a child to work as as slave or were moving around Upper Egypt to evade Jizya. Weird because she is brainwashed and evil to her own people. Muslim Brotherhood sympathisers are an evil Terroist group all you have to do is ignore there views and thoughts of other religious groups. Nothing but backward rubbish minded people.

    • Yes, I’ll bet.

      Because it is *mosques* that are forts, weapons factories, explosive factories, bomb factories, arms dumps. It is *mosques* that have blown up – in places like Afghanistan – because mohammedan mobsters were concocting IEDs inside and didn’t follow the instructions carefully enough.

      • Yes–Turkey’s Erdogan infamously said, “The mosques are our barracks, the domes our helmets, the minarets our bayonets and the faithful our soldiers…”

      • Exactly! It wasn’t too long ago that hundreds of guns and thousands of rounds were found in a mosque in Germany.

  2. CrankyWW you are 100% spot on. She is using Projective Identification whereby the CRIMINAL projects upon its would be VICTIMS the very thoughts that the criminal harbours towards the victim in the first place so as to JUSTIFY the aggression

    Muhammad bin Abd Allah the mentor of this DESPICABLE Muslima was best 1400 years ago at this. He ALWAYS accused his victims to be of what he himself was intending to do to them in the first place

    By the way Muhammad was the leader of the first Organized Crime Syndicate in history based in Medina. His followers for 1400 years and even now (just see what ISIS, al Shabab, Hamas, Boko Haram and others) continue in his foot steps

    As all the you tube videos PROVE, Hamas used civilians as human shields, mosques , hospitals and schools to horde armaments and missile bases and this Muslima accuses her would be victims the COPTS of doing so

    Nothing ever changes in Islam or Muslims because they emulate Muhammad’s Quran & Sunna (Sharia) which are Hatemongering Warmongering Duplicitous Racist Hypocritical Merciless Intolerant Disloyal Depraved Vile and hence are totally Ungodly and so is every living Muslim

    Please readers, always remember that every Muslim is the MORTAL enemy of all none Muslims/ Infidels/ Kuffar as dictated and mandated in Muhammad’s Quran

    IQ al Rassooli
    Kafir & Proud!

    • “Please readers, always remember that every Muslim is the MORTAL enemy of all none Muslims/ Infidels/ Kuffar as dictated and mandated in Muhammad’s Quran”

      I just wanted to repeat that, IQ, as still many, many people in the west, can’t wrap there heads around this fact!

  4. muslims hate Christ’s followers because deep inside they know subconsciously that they serve Satan,(allah)and his apostle muhammed, in their daily duties including killing unbelievers in an attempt to reach a paradise that is a vile fornaicatior’s and drunkard’s delight and part of Satan’s delusions to muslims.

    Truly EVERYTHING IN ISLAM IS DEBASED AND EVIL just as muhammed was!
    And he- muhammed is considered the perfect man of islam even though he was, by islam’s own qur’an and hadiths; A DEMON POSSESSED MASS MURDERER THIEF LIAR AND PEDOPHILE PERVERT
    God is not mocked and we reap what we sow in this world. If muslims continue to worship Satan /allah and DO NOT repent of this evil , they will, like muhammed ‘s own prophecy( where he is at this moment in the fires of sheol), reap eternal destruction

    • This.

      Satan is the god of Islam Muslims worship Satan, destruction, constantly killing people in the name of Satan, Pure Evil, Absolute Evil.

      Islam the Religion of Absolute Evil.

    • You are so fill with blind hately that why mainsteam media donot post your remark in the comments section. It is hater like you which cause all the touble in the world today. There are only 100000 moslem terrorist in the world there are 1.6 billions moslems in the world today divide 100000 by 1.6 billions than multiple the number you get by 100 that the % of the moslem population which are terrorist no threat there.

      • Great now he’s showing off his math skills …

        Wow what he lacks in English and grammar he makes up for in arithmetics! 😀 😀

      • “Defen0derofIsliam” wrote:

        You are so fill with blind hately that (sic) why mainsteam (sic) media donot (sic) post your remark in the comments section. It is hater like you which cause (sic) all the touble (sic) in the world today. There are only 100000 moslem (sic) terrorist in the world there are 1.6 billions moslems (sic) in the world today divide 100000 by 1.6 billions than multiple the number you get by 100 that the % of the moslem (sic) population which are terrorist (sic) no threat there.
        ………………………..

        Well, “Defen0derofIsliam” is hilariously math-challenged here, telling us that 100% of the “moslem” population are terrorists. Nice Freudian slip…

        But note: Ayat Oraby is not calling on “terrorists” to oppress the Coptic minority in Egypt, but just “ordinary” Muslims.

        Note that the repulsive “Defen0derofIsliam” has expressed not a word of criticism for this. And why would he? There is nothing so Islamic as oppressing Infidels.

        By the way, 100,000 is 0.0065% of 1.6 billion. But there is one problem with this–the number is false.

        In Egypt alone, 74% agree with the imposition of full Shari’ah law, including the stoning of women to death. The purpose of Jihad is the imposition of Islamic law. In the US, over half of Muslims openly admit they want Shari’ah law, as well.

        20% of Muslims in Britain support Jihad terror against the majority Infidels. 36% of Muslims in France believe suicide bombings are justified–26% of Muslims in Spain agree–that number is *53%* in Egypt. It is much higher elsewhere. Suddenly “Defen0derofIsliam’s” assertion that Jihadists are just a ‘tiny minority of extremists’ seems rather less plausible…

        And note: “Defen0derofIsliam” has *no* trouble with violent Jihad at all, but believes that our daring to expose it is what “cause (sic) all the touble (sic) in the world today”. Very telling.

        • Thank You gravenimage, of course no remorse will be shown for persecuting
          Christians, the thought never existed, not by someone like you say does not see
          Muslims causing problems, only someone mentioning it is a problem.

          Of course those numbers you found are based on people who regularly practice lying,
          who knows what the real numbers are, I am sure they are much higher.

      • dear defender of islam; your spelling is atrocious but you cannot refute my claims that allah is indeed Satan of the Bible because allah is the “greatest of deceivers’ and that is exactly what the Bible calls Satan. muhammed WAS all those this I said (just check your hadiths of muhammed) and you are damned to HELL fire for eternity unless you repent and turn to Jesus the ONLY SON OF GOD for the forgiveness of your sins

    • She sees Islam as her only culture and heritage. Actually the majority of Egypt’s Muslims, if not all, are unaware of what Raymond Ibrahim mentioned about their true ancestry!

    • Id say 20% of Egyptian are actually Egyptians, North Africans. The rest are Arabian invaders from Arabia. Most of the 20% are Copt Christians.

    • Freedom of expression, as long as it’s one way! You know which way, don’t you?

  7. There is no photo of satan, but one can see, if one chooses, a photo of his daughter.

  8. I’m glad to see that there are at least a few readers of this sight that do understand what islam really is.
    It is directly linked to ancient Paganism (Moon Worship) and Satanism. All Satanic cults preach the satisfying of the lust of the flesh over all other human goals or aims.
    Islam is also a form of blood cult and Penis Worship. It’s followers all have a very low I.Q. and couldn’t perform any useful function in society. We don’t need more of them here!
    I advise everyone to continue to write, call or email your lawmakers. Let them know we can not afford the cost of any more muslim “refuse-gees”.

    • Me thinks its Baal, the god of FORCE, forces. or Shiva, the god of destruction, Satan’s #1 best angle.

    • Did you know 20% of the medical doctor in america are moslim who are preacefull people. You blind bigots donot know that as you are so filled with hater toward moslims.

      • “Defen0derofIsliam” wrote:

        Did you know 20% of the medical doctor (sic) in america are moslim (sic) who are preacefull (sic) people. You blind bigots donot (sic) know that as you are so filled with hater toward moslims (sic).
        ……………………………..

        My God, what crap. Even this fawning University of Chicago article estimates that just 2.7% of doctors in the US are Muslim:

        http://chronicle.uchicago.edu/050714/doctorsfaith.shtml

        As for Muslim doctors being “preacefull”, that is debatable:

        “UK: Iraqi doctor guilty in Glasgow airport jihad plot”

        https://www.jihadwatch.org/2008/12/uk-iraqi-doctor-guilty-in-glasgow-airport-jihad-plot

        “Israel: 3 Muslim doctors and nurse arrested for jihad terror bombing”

        https://www.jihadwatch.org/2016/06/israel-3-muslim-doctors-and-nurse-arrested-for-jihad-terror-bombing

        Or perhaps “Defen0derofIsliam” was not trying to write “peaceful”, but “preachfull”–that is, engaged in Da’wa?

        And what does this have to do with his coreligionist calling for the oppression of Copts in Egypt, in any case? It appears he has no problem with this mistreatment of us “filthy Infidels” at all. How long before Muslims are in a position to treat us this way in the West, as well?

      • Look, I know there are Muslim MD’s in the USA. One did a very good job on my back, thank you. However, there are also a lot of Jewish, Christian, Daoist, Buddhist, and unchurched physicians in my country as well.

        Now, Defender, what say you to the vicious attacks on Christians that are common all over the Islamic world, and which flame up at the drop of a hat?

  9. Muslims in Egypt hate Copts for the same reason muslims worldwide hate non-muslims – because they’re not muslims.

  10. islam = the religion of hate

    And hate is quran and allah (satan) approved …

  11. If Hellery Cunton is elected president, their will be another hollacaust against christians and jews in the Mid-East…….Hellery will ALLOW it to happen.

    • You are insulting our next president by misspelling her name on purpose.

      • Wait–“Defen0derofIsliam” is calling someone on misspellings? That is quite hilarious…

        And look–apparently “Defen0derofIsliam” doesn’t believe we have to hold an election at all, but just declares Hillary Clinton to be our next president, as if by fiat.

        And why not? There is no democracy in Islam.

        Moreover, “Defen0derofIsliam” appears not to realize that here in the free West, we can criticize politicians. But why would he know that? In Dar-al-Islam, such criticism is not allowed–and that is just how tyrannical Mohammedans like it…

  12. Why Egypt’s Muslims Are Bitter Towards Coptic Christians
    ……………………….

    Fine article by Raymond Ibrahim.

    As noted, Ayat Oraby and her fellow Muslims are only bitter that the Copts, after almost 1400 years of violence and oppression, continue to exist and hold on.

  13. What? A Muslim living in America who calls for RELIGIOUS PERSECUTION? Isn’t that HATE SPEECH to call for a religious group to be hurt or penalized?

    Oh, of course! Christians are now FAIR GAME as far as Western elites are concerned! Silly me.

    • I was just thinking of the same thing and checking where to pen it down, in the comments section!

  14. “Why Egypt’s Muslims Are Bitter Towards Coptic Christians”
    I think it has somethin’ to do w/ the unholy ko ‘ran.

  15. Brilliant, Raymond. As usual. You always write so persuasively and so truthfully. Thank you for all the hard work you do to expose the suffering of Christians all over the world at the hands of Muslims. It is a ‘thankless job’. But thank you. Many silent readers like myself read your writings and agree with you and pray every day in the holy rosary for the people you consistently write about. You are doing a very good deed and God will reward you, I’m sure. Keep it up.

    In this particular article, you make a very astute observation: the modern Muslims of the Middle East are, more often than not, descendants of…APOSTATE CHRISTIANS of centuries past. Brilliant! I have often thought about this very same idea. If all these lands were once Christian, and then were “conquered” by Islam, then the people who are Muslim today in these countries are, to some extent anyway, descendants of Christians who chose to renounce their faith in order to “save their lives”.

    And your psychological observation about WHY these modern Muslims are so resentful of their Christian counter-parts is brilliant as well. They RESENT them…precisely because they [the Christians] are doing what these Muslims’ ancestors didn’t have the character or courage to do; namely, give their life for Christ. Great stuff. Keep it up. We love you. I would love to meet you and discuss these questions with you one day. You are very insightful. Godspeed, man.

  16. It’s same, all Pakistani Muslims ancestors were Hindus.

    What they do to Hindus in Pakistan and Hindus in India!

    • Yes–whenever Infidels are a minority Muslims harass, oppress, and murder them.

  18. I think Raymond nailed it. Many Mohammedans hate the Christians in their countries, not just because Islam expects them to hate them for being “infidels”, “the worst of creatures”, “apes and pigs”, but also because they are a living reminder that their own ancestors betrayed Christ for survival and worldly gains.

  19. Because Christianity is superior to Islam in terms of natural morality, scriptural basis and personal growth. It s envy… thats’s why they want to steal Jesus and put him as a figure of their religion… which is not…

  20. Islam Reliance of the Traveller: Islamic Sacred Law (sharia) Page 607/609, Chapter o11.0, titled NON MUSLIM SUBJECTS OF THE ISLAMIC STATE (AL AHL DHIMMA)

    Islam believes itself superior to all others, period.

    Islam will tramp over each and every culture in order to wipe out everything non Islamic, that is really what you need to know about Islam.

  21. You cannot trust any muslim eventually they will behead you if you have a different point of view it earns them “paradise”.For centuries we have heard how nicely muslims and Christians live together in peace an harmony in may Islamic countries, lie most things muslim it is an enormous lie they only wait for the final Caliphate to behead all their enemies which everyone not of their small sect.The more we read and study about muslims the worse they appear.

  22. Has anyone noticed the ‘dead eyes’ phenomena when looking at people like this woman ? Her hatred is there for all of us to see, she has no soul. You can see a loving soul shining out of people when it is there – it glows – there are some little guys who are Muslim I have seen a glow too, but they are never terrorists or even spouting hatred for their fellow man. We never give any thought to this, but we all know we take it into account when we look at and judge our fellow humans – we do KNOW goodness when we see it, it is obvious !!!

    • Oh, she has a soul. And I know where it’s headed after she, thankfully, draws her last breath on this earth.

  23. I don’t know whether I’m allowed to use the ‘c’ word in the comments section, so I’ll leave it to the readers to guess what I’m saying about Ayat Oraby. What a vile c*nt.

  24. Egyptian Christians are the greatest people for perseverance in carrying the cross. One wonders why we don’t hear of a two-state solution for Egypt.
    Islam conquered the Near East by the sword. It is taking over the West without firing a single shot … well, besides a few bombings, shootings and crashings … through immigration.

  26. Didnt the Egyptian Christians burn down the great Library of Alexandria, and also destroy the great Synagogue of that very city! Still, why should I hate Christian Copts. I lived in Luxor and associated with their intelligentsia: anthropologists, Egyptologists, writers, archeologists. They were involved in translating the Nag Hammadi library at the U. Of Chicago there. I hope that they in joyed me as much as I did them. Met the last pope also.

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