Global News reported that a second “an anti-Islam flyer” was found in mailboxes in Edmonton, Alberta. The police hate crimes unit has launched an investigation.
The flyer reads the following:
I HATE GAYS
Thinks Islam
The Quran:
Kill the one that is doing it and also kill the one that it is being done to him. (in
reference to the active and passive partners in gay sexual intercourse)
Is this advocating peace, love and freedom in your eyes?
IT’S TIME TO
#ShiptThemThe****Back
www.siotw.org [STOP ISLAMIZATION OF THE WORLD]
The article is entitled “Will Alberta police investigate Mohammad’s ruling on gays as hate speech?” It could just as easily be called: “Will police across Canada investigate the hate speech that goes on in mosques and at al Quds day rallies, speeches that incite violence, murder and hatred, not only against gays but against Jews as well; and that advocates a trumping of our democracy in favor of replacing it with Sharia?”
The West is sliding down a dangerous slope, as too many leaders have surrendered to Islamic supremacist pressure and accepted the bogus “Islamophobia” narrative, while statistics fully bear out that “Judeophobia” is far more of a problem.
Alberta also happens to be one of six Canadian cities to sign on to a charter against “Islamophobia.” The Alberta Muslim Public Affairs Council launched an Islamophobia hotline, a special interest group that bullies anyone who dares to criticize Islam. Craig Chandler, a member of the PC party of Alberta, resigned in the spring because he made reference to “Earls restaurants…supporting terrorism” on his Facebook page. It was because Earls restaurants purchases beef from Creekstone Farms, a US company that offers halal meats. Chandler stated — after the usual tsunami of attacks that usually follows what is perceived as public criticisms of Islam by a public figure — that he should have explained what he meant better. He stated:
“What I should have said is if you need halal certification, you need to pay a tax to Saudi Arabia.”
None of the other contributions Chandler made in his role as board member of the PC party of Alberta mattered anymore. Nor was it important that he was “acclaimed as the party’s regional director for Calgary East”. All that mattered was that he had appeared to have insulted Islam, and was labeled “Islamophobic” and for doing so. He was tried in the court of public opinion (driven by special interest Muslim groups), flogged and defeated.
“Will Alberta police investigate Mohammad’s ruling on gays as hate speech?”, by Jonathan Halevi, CIJNews, October 20, 2016:
Global News reported that a second “an anti-Islam flyer” was found in mailboxes in Edmonton, Alberta. The police hate crimes unit has launched an investigation.
The flyer reads the following:
I HATE GAYS
Thinks Islam
The Quran:
Kill the one that is doing it and also kill the one that it is being done to him. (in
reference to the active and passive partners in gay sexual intercourse)
Is this advocating peace, love and freedom in your eyes?
IT’S TIME TO
#ShiptThemThe****Back
www.siotw.org [STOP ISLAMIZATION OF THE WORLD]
To see the flyer click HERE.
Alannah Davies, Edmonton resident who received the flyer in her mailbox and Jesse Lipscombe, founder of the racism initiative Make It Awkward, condemned the hate content of the flyer.
Faisal Khan Suri, president of the Alberta Muslim Public Affairs Council (AMPAC), called on police to investigate the flyer. The Alberta Muslim Public Affairs Council (AMPAC) sent the following statement to Global News:
“AMPAC emphatically condemns the hate flyers being distributed in Edmonton for the second
time. The flyers are hate propaganda with fabricated assertions about Islam and Muslims.
“Islam does not condone the killing of any innocent life.
“We are urging the EPS to investigate these acts as hate crimes and brings those responsible to justice…
“Islamophobia in not just a Muslim issue – it’s an Alberta issue and a Canadian issue.”
Does the flyer contains “fabricated assertions about Islam”?
The authors of the flyer quoted hadith (narration) attributed to Mohammad, the prophet of Islam, explaining the Islamic ruling in case of homosexuality.
The same hadith and interpretation appears on the Islamic website Mission Islam:
“Kill the one that is doing it and also kill the one that it is being done to.” (in reference to the active and passive partners in gay sexual intercourse).”
The team behind Mission Islam website present themselves as “concerned Muslims” who strive to “promote accurate representation of Islam… to increase awareness as to the extent of oppression against Muslims… [and] to remind Muslims of their responsibility to participate and support their brothers and sisters in Islam.”
The hadith in question also included in an Islamic ruling published by the Islamic website “Islam Question and Answer” which is recommended by Islamic organizations in Canada.
The following are excepts from the Islamic ruling on the punishment for homosexuality:
“The crime of homosexuality is one of the greatest of crimes, the worst of sins and the most abhorrent of deeds, and Allaah punished those who did it in a way that He did not punish other nations…
“al-Tirmidhi (1456), Abu Dawood (4462) and Ibn Maajah (2561) narrated that Ibn ‘Abbaas (may Allaah be pleased with him) said: The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Whoever you find doing the action of the people of Loot, execute the one who does it and the one to whom it is done.”. Classed as saheeh [reliable narration] by al-Albaani in Saheeh al-Tirmidhi…
“The Sahaabah [Mohammad’s companions] were unanimously agreed on the execution of homosexuals, but they differed as to how they were to be executed.
“Some of them were of the view that they should be burned with fire…
“and some of them thought that they should be thrown down from a high place then have stones thrown at them…
“Some of them thought that they should be stoned to death…
“After the Sahaabah, the fuqaha’ [scholars] differed concerning the matter.
“Some of them said that the homosexual should be executed no matter what his situation, whether he is married or not.
“Some of them said that he should be punished in the same way as an adulterer, so he should be stoned if he is married and flogged if he is not married.
“Some of them said that a severe punishment should be carried out on him, as the judge sees fit.”
The Islamic ruling on the punishment for homosexuality – The Canadian perspective
Imam Dr. Abdullah Hakim Quick (Toronto):
“So he [journalist] said: what is the position of Islam on homosexuality? They ask me. So newspaper, right? So I said: put my name in the paper. The position is death. And we cannot change Islam…
“If he is serious, and a person came to me, and he came in the office and and he said he was homosexual, cried. I said: what happened to you? And he said: my father abused me. He is a Muslim. So I… said: brother, you know your are sick. He said: I’m sick.
“So we sent him to a Muslim psychiatrist, so he can work through his problem, and then bring him back into the masjid (mosque).
“So anything can can come now these days. Anything is going to come at us, but we cannot allow in the name of Islam gay masjid (mosque) to come. We cannot allow this, man. And they’re trying to do this…
[Question from the audience whether the “Jews” are behind homosexuality]
“It [homosexuality] goes with Zionism. And really it seems like, Allah knows best (الله اعلم), if they are Dajjal’s (Antichrist دجال) army while it is mostly Jews (يهود) but probably there will be homosexuals with them too. Allah knows best (الله اعلم).
Syed Muhammad Rizvi (Toronto):
“In the Islamic legal system, homosexuality is a punishable crime against the laws of God. In the case of homosexuality between two males, the active partner is to be lashed a hundred times if he is unmarried and killed if he is married; whereas the passive partner is to be killed regardless of his marital status.
“In the case of two females (i.e., lesbianism), the sinners are to be lashed a hundred times if they are unmarried and stoned to death if they are married.
Abu Ameenah Bilal Philips (Toronto):
“It becomes a problem. Delaying Marriage… That’s the consequence. Once we delay it brings in corruption. Worse than that, you end up with lesbianism, homosexuality gets born out of those circumstances.”
Imam Wael Shihab (Toronto):
“Homosexuality is a sinful act in Islam. As for you question about how we should deal with homosexuals, I’d cite the following fatwa of Dr. Muzammil Siddiqi, president of the Fiqh Council of North America:
“We should consider them people who get themselves engaged in a sinful act. We should deal with them in the same way we deal with any people who are involved in alcoholics, gambling or adultery.
“We should have deep repugnance to their acts and we must remind and warn them. Those who insist on this lifestyle, consider it legitimate and feel ‘gay pride’, we should not associate with them and should not take them as friends. We should certainly avoid those people.
“If we see a person who has committed this sin and wants to repent then we should help that person as much as we can to get out of this evil. We should not leave him/her to the temptations of the Satan…”“In Islam, changing one’s sex is not permissible if the person (male or female) has complete male or female sex organs….
“Moreover, I have consulted reliable medical sources, which confirm the following:
“1. A person who undergoes sex-change operation will not be a complete man or woman. So, if a man changed his gender to a woman, she then will not be able to bear children or breastfeed them. The same also applies to a woman who changes her gender to a man; he will not be able to have children.
“2. It is easy for a person, after having sex-change operation, to return back to his or her original sex.
“Given the above, it’s my advice for him to return back to his original sex and go through professional counseling and treatment to lead normal happy life.”
Imam Syed B. Soharwardy (Calgary):
“According to the teachings of Islam homosexual behaviour is an abnormal behaviour and must be cured. Homosexuality is completely forbidden in Islam and it is one of the KABA-IR (big) sins according to Islam.”
Imam Mustafa Khattab (Edmonton):
“Homosexuality is not permissible. The reason the people of Lot peace be upon him were destroyed in Sodom and Gomorrah, because of this sin, so it is not permissible. Deal with someone, with a homosexual, in my view, as I said homosexuality is abnormal, this is not the norm.
“So, for me, someone who is homosexual is like someone who has diabetes or someone who has cancer or AIDS, he has a special case and this person needs special treatment.
“Can I talk to them? Why not? Just like I talk to everybody, ok. But, personally I don’t like to be associated with them.
“One day, we were in California, in Los Angeles and we were sitting around a table… this guy was sitting next to me… he said: I’m personally a gay… I moved my chair. I didn’t feel comfortable to sit next to the guy. Again, you can talk to them.”
Imam Muneer El-Kassem (London, Ont.):
El-Kassem implied that Allah punished mankind with global wide economic crisis because of homosexuality (“some sexual orientations”) and immodesty (“dressed half naked”). According to Munir El-Kassem, the climate change as it is seen reflected in the prolonged drought in Middle East is actually Allah’s retribution for the people who avoid giving charity.
Muslim preacher at Toronto’s Dundas Square:
“If you are gay you are cursed, because it is disgusting, because you area man and you are having sex with another man which is the cause of AIDS.”
“You want to be proud to be a gay and this is the cause of AIDS and that is a punishment from God.”
“You’ll see all these homosexuals, they are spitting… because they are dying of AIDS, and the truth is the truth. I’m here to bring the truth… It is the punishment of God. God is punishing them by bringing them AIDS.”
“Homosexuality is wrong and a sin and if you are a homosexual you are cursed. It doesn’t matter if it is your right… you will have to answer your Lord… when you die you will have to answer to God for your evil Satanic actions.”
“The truth is the truth and the truth has to be spread… because the City is days before the Gay Parade, right? and as a Muslim I have to enjoy the good and forbid the evil. I have to do it because I’m committed by Allah as a Muslim to enjoy good and forbid evil.”
“If you go to Church and Wellesley you see these homosexuals spitting, because they are dying of AIDS.”
“People want to defend them. How can you defend something Satanic… how can you defend AIDS? It is immoral… Homosexuality is immoral.”
The book Minhaj – Al – Muslim, or “The way of a Muslim” (sold in Islamic bookstores in Canada), p. 511 of the book (Vol. 2):
“The Hadd [fixed punishment] of homosexuality is stoning to death, with there being no difference between the married or unmarried person. This is due to the Prophet’s statement:
“Whoever you find doing the deed of the people of Lut (i.e. sodomy), then kill the doer and the one
to whom it is being done.” (Abu Dawud, At-Tirmithi and others, and it is Sahih [reliable])
The methods of killing them (the two who committed the homosexual act) that have been related from the Companions have differed. From among them there were those who burned them with fire. Others among them killed them by stoning them with stones. Ibn ‘Abbas said about them. “The highest building in the village should be sought, then they should be thrown from it upside down (i.e. on their heads). Then they should stoned after that.”
The book “The Lawful and the Prohibited in Islam” By Yusuf Al Qaradawi (sold in Islamic bookstores in Canada):
“Sexual Perversion: A Major Sin…
“Lut’s people were addicted to this shameless depravity, abandoning natural, pure, and lawful relations with women in the pursuit of this unnatural, foul and illicit practice…
“The jurists of Islam have held different opinions concerning the punishment for this abominable practice. Should it be the same as the punishment for zina [adultery, which means that the married sinner is stoned to death], or should both the active and passive participations [sic] be put to death? While such punishments may seem cruel, they have been suggested to maintain the purity of the Islamic society and to keep it clean of perverted elements.”
The book Fatawa Islamiyah or Islamic Verdicts (sold in Islamic bookstores in Canada), (Vol. 6, p. 199):
“The Ruling on Sodomy and the Punishment Thereof
“What is the ruling on sodomy in Islam and what is the punishment?
“The shameful act of sodomy is one of the most repugnant of shameful acts and we seek refuge with Allah (from it). Because of it, Allah destroyed the people of Lut, peace be upon him, and punished them with a terrible punishment, turning their homes upside down and raining stones of baked clay upon them, layer upon layer, (as Allah said): “marked from your Lord and they are not ever far from the wrongdoers.”
“It has been reported from the Companions, may Allah be pleased with them, that the punishment for one who does that or allows it to be done to him is that he be killed. Or, to be burnt or to be stoned. Or, to be thrown from the highest point (mountain, tower, lofty building etc.), then to follow it with stoning.
“This is because of its corruption of morals, customs, and because of its violation of the natural human state, and because the abandonment of lawful marriage by those who practice.
“Ibn Jibreen”
The book “Clear Your Doubts About Islam” (distributed for free at the Islamic book at Toronto’s Dundas Square):
“Why does Islam oppose homosexuality? Where is freedom of choice?
“In the West today. homosexuality and lesbianism have come to be seen as an alternative lifestyle subject to personal preference. It is no longer considered an abnormality that requires restraint and treatment, and is being actively promoted by its adherents and their sympathizers as a legitimate way of life. Arguments in favor of tolerance toward same sex relationships arc based on the assumption that homosexual behavior is biologically based and not merely learned from society.
“Islam considers homosexuality to be the result of human choice. Human beings are not robots that do only what they are programmed to do. They choose how to behave and God holds them responsible for their choices. It is inconceivable that God would have made some people homosexuals then declared it a punishable crime. To accept such a proposition is to suggest that God is unjust.
“Inclinations can exist within humans toward a variety of natural acts and unnatural ones such as rape, paedophilia or bestiality. These inclinations may arise from media influence or direct contact, but it does not mean that free reign should be given to them.”
The book “24 Hours With The Prophet” (distributed for free at the Islamic booth at Dundas Square in Toronto):
Homosexuality is a “major sin”
The Meadowale Islamic Centre in Mississauga, Ontario included “sodomy, homosexuality” in the list of “The Five Evils” (newsletter. March & April 2015)……

CrossWare says
Of course not investigates! Everybody knows muslims are higher in the SJW priority list than gays.
Kenneth T Tellis says
No one be they Muslim or otherwise must be given special treatment when the law of the land should takes precedence. We cannot ever argue that al-Qu-ran is God’s word any more that of the religious book of other religion. To do so is to be prejudiced and in violation of common law.
Infidel from Down Under says
While the proudly pro muslim Justin Trudeau is Prime Minister of Canada, not a chance
mortimer says
THE SWORD OF CENSORSHIP CUTS BOTH WAYS – THE KORAN IS HATE LITERATURE
Muslims in India have often sought shelter under Sections 153A and 295A of the Indian Penal Code (I.P.C.) in preventing every public discussion of the Islamic creed in general and of their prophet in particular.1 Quite a few publications that critically examined the sayings and doings of Islam’s prophet or other idolized personalities of Islam, have been restricted under Section 95 of the Criminal Procedure Code (Cr.P.C.), as a result of pressure exerted by vociferous, very often violent Muslim protests. Little did Muslims suspect that the same provisions of the law could be invoked for seeking a ban on their holy book, the Quran.
The credit for this turning of tables goes to Chandmal Chopra of Calcutta. (Chandmal Chopra of Calcutta, on March 29, 1985, filed a Writ of Petition in the Calcutta High Court stating that publication of the Quran infringes Sections 153A and 295A of the I.P.C. because it incites violence, disturbs public tranquility, promotes, on grounds of religion, feelings of enmity, hatred and ill-will between different religious communities, and insults other religions or religious beliefs of other communities in India’. He also requested a ruling nisi against the Government of West Bengal ‘to show cause as to why a writ of mandamus be not issued to it directing it to declare each copy of Quran whether in the original Arabic or in any of the languages as forfeited to the Government’ in terms of Section 95 of the Cr.P.C.
The case caused considerable excitement among the Muslim ‘believers’ (Mu’mins) and interest among the ‘infidels’ (Kafirs) in April-May, 1985. The press in India and abroad published many headlines about what was rightly regarded as an unprecedented event in the history of religion. It was the first time that a pagan kafir had legally challenged the character of a document hailed as the ‘Word of Allah’. The roles now stood reversed. So far, it had only been the privilege of Muslims in India to ban and burn the sacred literature of the pagans.
After considerable rioting, the Petition was disallowed by the High Court. But the issues raised by the Petition remain pertinent. No court of law can deny to ‘kafirs’ the right to challenge the treatment prescribed for them in the Quran at the hands of the Muslim ‘believers’.
billybob says
That was very interesting. Thanks for posting.
Mubarak says
“Islam does not condone the killing of any innocent life.” –
By implication: Islam condones the killing of people who live immoral lives according to Islam, since they are not considered innocent.
Once again Islam is exposed by its contrast to the gospel:
“9Know you not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, 10Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortionists, shall inherit the kingdom of God. 11And such were some of you: but you are washed, but you are sanctified, but you are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.”
No obligation to kill people here!
gravenimage says
The vile Mubarak wrote:
“Islam does not condone the killing of any innocent life.” –
By implication: Islam condones the killing of people who live immoral lives according to Islam, since they are not considered innocent.
Once again Islam is exposed by its contrast to the gospel:
“9Know you not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, 10Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortionists, shall inherit the kingdom of God. 11And such were some of you: but you are washed, but you are sanctified, but you are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.”
No obligation to kill people here!
…………………….
No, there *isn’t*–despite the vicious Mubarak’s sneering tone.
Mubarak says
Isn’t it ironic to find on a site that condemns Islamic hate speech, that so many in the Comment Section exercise it? I am fully open to the possibility that I express opinions that ought to be criticized. But why all this hatred directed against me with GI as cheerleader?
I’m not a Muslim (my name is a pseudonym), I detest Islam as a religion, and I’m convinced that nothing good can come from it. To the extent that I have met good people who are Muslims, I ascribe their goodness to themselves and not to their religion. I am not a troll and stealth jihad is far from me. I have furthermore lost my job for protesting against having Muslim prayer imposed on me on my workplace – how many of you have paid such a price for criticizing this hypocrisy and this political manifestation spreading all over the Western World?
I am simply setting forth a proposition (in a language that is not mine and therefore often grammatically wrong): that the best and strongest weapon, we have in the West against Islam, is reducing immorality in our part of the world – not as a concession to Islam but in gratitude for the gospel that is our Judeo-Christian inheritance.
What is wrong with that?
Winston Churchill says
Mubarak, because our leaders are so “blind” to what is taking place in this country and the world, we will lose the war against !radical! Islam. I’m so sorry to hear that you lost your job because of their demands. That is unacceptable in a free country. But…we already are not a free country and according to Bible prophesy it is easy to see that the Islamists are the anti-Christ and the Bible tells us that at the end times the persecutions will be such as has never yet been seen on earth. Our poor posterity. Fearful times await us.
Angemon says
Mubarak posted:
“I am simply setting forth a proposition (in a language that is not mine and therefore often grammatically wrong): that the best and strongest weapon, we have in the West against Islam, is reducing immorality in our part of the world ”
Like when you blamed the victims of the Cologne sex assaults? How exactly were they being “immoral”? Were they doing your pet peeve of a naked bike ride? In a December evening in Germany? Were they wearing suggestive clothing or prancing around half-naked? In a December evening in Germany? Pull my other leg…
Oh, and didn’t you said something along the lines of “women in the West are wearing hijabs as a means to protest against immorality in the West”? I’m asking this because that seems to be an underreported phenomenon – the only women I see wearing hijabs in the West are mostly muslimas, with the every other starry-eyed fool who thinks she’s so very diverse and multicultural for wearing a hijab to virtue signal for brownie points on the internet.
P.S.: Claiming that combating “immorality” is a weapon to combat islam makes as much sense as saying that combating immorality is a good weapon to combat shark attacks. The shark is going to lunge, or not, at the swimmer no matter what they wear because the shark has a mind and goals of its own. Like wise with islam and muslims: they’ll be gunning after the non-islamic world because it’s not islamic, no matter how “moral” or “immoral” they consider themselves to be. As far as islamic imperatives are concerned, if you’re not a muslim or dhimmi, you’re fair game, naked bike rides or not.
gravenimage says
Fine post, Angemon.
t. says
Mubarak, I think some people misunderstood your comment. Just remind them that English is not your mother tongue and that your idea might not have been rightly conveyed. I saw several of your comments on other posts on this site and they always exposed the danger and hypocrisy of Islam.
t. says
I wrote my immediately above comment before seeing your thread of comments on “A Muslim in Austria rapes a 10 year old boy”.
I must admit that your thread of comments over there demonstrates clearly that you’re a stealth jihadist or that at least you’re trying to whitewash the Muslim who raped the boy.
Hence, gravenimage has a very valid reason to accuse of being that!
Champ says
“Mubarak” is 2-faced and only *pretends* to be a Christian. In some of his comments he presents himself as a devout Christian, but in many other offerings he reveals his true colors as a lowlife-stealth-jihadist.
“Mubarak” is a deceiver!
gravenimage says
Thank you, t.
Spot on, Champ.
Ted Tyler says
Graven, I do not understand why you are so heavily dedicated to Mubarak’s chops busting. Based on his recent posts, I see no justification. Have his ancient posts influenced his current posts in your mind?
gravenimage says
Dear Ted, Mubarak is a stealth Jihadist.
He has lauded Muslims raping us–including raping little boys. He has claimed that we *deserve* to be raped by Muslims.
He has also posed as a Christian, claiming that Christianity demands that we import large numbers of rapist Muslims so that we can “atone” for the supposed decadence of the West.
These are not ancient posts–he is doing this now.
You can find him over on this thread, whitewashing the Muslim rape of a ten-year-old child
“Austria: Muslim migrant who raped 10-year-old boy has conviction overturned”
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2016/10/austria-muslim-migrant-who-raped-10-year-old-boy-has-conviction-overturned/
linnte says
Mu is a taqqiya artist.
Ted Tyler says
Graven, I’m getting confused with too many posts and many people saying different things. With my limited ability, I try to focus on a smaller area. So I try to evaluate the post on its own merits and not consider who made the post. That way I do not insert ideas into the post that may not be there. It may be true that Mubarak is a stealth Jihadist – but true or not – it is of minor importance. Let’s see if he makes additional posts and then evaluate them.
Here, our main focus should be directed to finding ways to combat the idea that telling the truth about Islam is considered to be hate speech.
Jay Boo says
Oh! Come off it Ted.
Ted Tyler said.
“Based on his recent posts, I see no justification”
That needs a qualifier of (very MOST) recent posts.
It could be assumed that Ted missed a few recent humdingers by the Mubarak BS slinger except Ted took it one step further and added a disingenuous sounding reference to single out Graven as overreacting to Mubarak’s alleged — “(ANCIENT)” posts.
Ancient ????
What BS
High boot time
Ted Tyler says
Jay Boo, Yes, I have not been keeping up with Jihad Watch for a while. I needed to lower my blood pressure a bit after some injuries that made it impossible for me to do road races for stress reduction. I am now running again so I can spend more time on the site with reduced risk of a heart attack or cerebral hemorrhage.
Champ says
Linnte wrote:
“Mu is a taqqiya artist.”
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Indeed! Anyone paying close attention to his offerings knows this.
linnte says
Hi Champ! How are you? Mubarak is very subtle in his condemnation of Western Values, Christianity and, well, all of us. It took me a while to see this, as he mixes common sense into his slams. He is like Saruman in the Tolkien books. So in my mind, that’s what I call him- Saruman. Hahahahha!
Champ says
Graven wrote:
“Mubarak is a stealth Jihadist.
He has lauded Muslims raping us–including raping little boys. He has claimed that we *deserve* to be raped by Muslims.
He has also posed as a Christian, claiming that Christianity demands that we import large numbers of rapist Muslims so that we can “atone” for the supposed decadence of the West.
These are not ancient posts–he is doing this now.
You can find him over on this thread, whitewashing the Muslim rape of a ten-year-old child
“Austria: Muslim migrant who raped 10-year-old boy has conviction overturned”
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2016/10/austria-muslim-migrant-who-raped-10-year-old-boy-has-conviction-overturned/”
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Graven, thank you for exposing this creep “Mubarak” for what he is–good work!
gravenimage says
Thanks so much for the reply, Ted. With all respect, I disagree with you that it is of minor importance that Mubarak is a stealth Jihadist–it colors everything he posts here.
Ted Tyler says
Graven, I have not read enough of Mubarak’s post to get a feel for his thinking: however, the general feeling on this site is that he is an Islamic sympathizer. Be that as it may, I attempt to evaluate his posts on an individual basis and not color the post because its author may be tainted. Here we have the option to play with a variety of ideas, to throw out a flawed idea and see what comes back, to throw out a “well thought out” idea, have it be shredded, and then realize that the reasoning was flawed. And all this can be done without anyone getting killed!. Wow! How cool is that? It shows immediately that we are not living in an Islamic country where free speech is non-existent.
My position is that if Mubarak made a good post, then he should be given credit for that post – even if it is simply an exercise for him in Stealth Jihad.
gravenimage says
Good posts, Linnte, Jay Boo, and Champ.
Champ says
Graven wrote:
“Thanks so much for the reply, Ted. With all respect, I disagree with you that it is of minor importance that Mubarak is a stealth Jihadist–it colors everything he posts here.”
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I *wholly* agree with you, Graven!
Mirren10 says
”My position is that if Mubarak made a good post, then he should be given credit for that post”
Can you find any ‘good’ ones ?
gravenimage says
Ted, I am sorry to hear about your injuries. Get well soon!
gravenimage says
Linnte, you are right–Mubarak can be very subtle at times–that’s why he’s more dangerous than most of the trolls here, who either ham-fistedly claim that Islam is a ‘religion of peace’, or else who just gloat over our (supposed) immanent conquest.
Hope you are doing well.
Angemon says
Mubarak posted:
““9Know you not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, 10Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortionists, shall inherit the kingdom of God. 11And such were some of you: but you are washed, but you are sanctified, but you are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.”
No obligation to kill people here!”
Indeed, no obligation whatsoever. Not even an exhortation, or a ny sort of call to violence, just the warning (promise?) that the people being called out will not “inherit the kingdom of God”, as well as an assurance that those amongst them who repented would.
linnte says
(Trumpet tooting!) Well said Angemon! Tada!
gravenimage says
Very true, Angemon and Linnte.
Ted Tyler says
Nice post Mubarak. My oversimplification of your post is: Islam condones the killing of the immoral non-Muslims, but the Bible does not condone killing (However, the non-believers will not make it to Heaven).
Jay Boo says
Very slick one self-proclaimed (objective bystander) atheist Ted.
Mubarak is clearly trying to focus all attention away from Islam to Christianity.
What the heck is — an (immoral non-Muslim), Ted?
Is the reasons Muslims wish to kill due to — immorality?
Of course not. Islam itself is filth.
gravenimage says
Good points, Jay Boo. Another point–as you know, what Islam considers moral is *very* different from values in Christianity and the West.
That is why Mubarak can condemn women being allowed to attend public New Year’s Even celebrations, yet condone Muslims raping women and children in the streets.
Muslims can also take sex slaves, “Honor Kill” their own children for resisting forced marriage or wearing the Hijab, and mass-murder innocent Infidels–and this is not just condoned, but actually *praiseworthy*.
Kaos says
It is NOT HATE SPEACH. It is a fact sheet! This is like a murderer not liking being called a murderer. If I call a murderer a murderer, it is a fact. I hope their printing press NEVER runs out of ink.
carol says
I agree Kaos but just came up with another brilliant idea…as follows:
siotw.org (and others) should borrow a page from Mr. Chandler’s playbook – he’d gotten into trouble by blabbing about “Earls restaurants…supporting terrorism” and later this naughty man upon realizing he’d offended the Word Police gave his thinking a quick readjustment – “What I SHOULD have said is if you need halal certification, you need to pay a TAX to Saudi Arabia.”
Now if siotw had simply and honestly reported (in a non-judgmental way with no clues or embellishments) something like “This is what Islam truly thinks and demands from its fans per big Mo’s epic..bla, bla, bla…And now will you please share your thoughts and feelings upon this matter as we’d really like to make an objective report to the throne in Ottawa. Thanks soooo much and please feel free to speak up.”
linnte says
Kuffar are not innocent, Gays are not innocent, adulterers are not innocent, per Islamic THINKING so it’s all out war on those non innocent people. Why does Government have such a problem thinking like a Muslim?
gravenimage says
So true, Linnte.
billybob says
“Alberta also happens to be one of six Canadian cities to sign on to a charter against “Islamophobia.” ”
Um no – it’s not. Alberta is not a city. It is a province. I think you meant to say “Edmonton”.
gravenimage says
You are right, billybob. Here is that story:
“Six Canadian cities sign a charter against ‘Islamophobia’”
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2016/07/six-canadian-cities-sign-a-charter-against-islamophobia
The city in question might be Calgary, also in Alberta. Shockingly, Calgary–that most Canadian of cities–has a *Muslim mayor*.
Mirren10 says
Those are the sort of pamphlets I, and a group of like minded friends, leave in strategic places.
We haven’t heard yet of anyone complaining they’re ‘racist’. 🙂
gravenimage says
Good for you, Mirren.
Michael Copeland says
“No stronger retrograde force exists in the world”,
Winston Churchill
Print your own wallet cards, which can be left around as well:
http://www.libertygb.org.uk/news/churchill-islam-wallet-cards
Mirren10 says
Yes, that’s a really useful resource – I use those as well.
DJM says
“Islam does not condone the killing of any innocent life.”
Ah… There’s the rub.
Muslims and apologists always say this in response to Islamic mandated killings. What they never say is that, in Islam, only Muslims are ever innocent.
David Pimentel says
Particularly Muslim men and their young male concubines are deemed innocent. All others are to be used and abused according to the whims of the former. It’s quite disgusting.
linnte says
You nailed it!
Jay Boo says
Exactly
Someone should make a film about:
“(The Innocence of Muslims)” — and Muhammad.
davej says
Muslims can rape 10 year old boys if its a “sexual emergency” (and then be pardoned, apparently)..
But if they think you are gay they will throw you off the roof of a high building.
When I read Muslim I think monster.
gravenimage says
True, Dave.
duh swami says
“Islam does not condone the killing of any innocent life.” –
Religion kills…Why does Islam, or any religion, kill anyone at all?
Appeasing blood thirsty gods?
Ted Tyler says
The problem with the flyer is that it is obviously anti-Islamic. If a person already believes that Islam is a Religion of Peace, then the flyer will only deepen that person’s conviction. The flyer tells the person what to do: ”Stop Islamization of the World” and “ship them back”. Ok, we see your point of view – and your flyer will convince no one of anything.
A better approach is simply to provide the facts. Then let the reader make his own conclusion. Do not make the conclusion for the reader. That will only increase resistance. Try a flyer like this:
1. State: “Learn about ISLAM. What did our beloved prophet Muhammad (PBUH) really say.”
2. Then cite some violent passages from the Holy Islamic Texts.
3. Then show how true believers carry out acts of horror throughout the world in the name of Allah.
4. Then praise the perpetrators of violence as people to be admired.
This type of flyer might actually get some people to think about what was being said. We want to plant the seed of doubt: “Does the Koran really say that? Could that possibly be true? What is going on here?” We want them to question the idea that “Islam is a religion of peace”.
Michael Copeland says
Good idea.
Mirren10 says
I like it ! I’m off to rewrite my pamphlets. 🙂
gravenimage says
Good points, Ted.
One point, though. You wrote:
1. State: “Learn about ISLAM. What did our beloved prophet Muhammad (PBUH) really say.”
……………………
I don’t think it is actually necessary to pose as a pious Muslim in order to present material objectively. We have truth on our side; I don’t think we need to resort to any sort of subterfuge. Just my two cents.
Ted Tyler says
Graven, I agree. Thanks.
gravenimage says
🙂
simpleton1 says
Get them to find the chronological order of that jumbled koran
Expose them to the abrogation verses, as :Mohammad claimed to bring forth even better verses for his followers, that take precedence over earlier verses.
Eventually even our selves will know those Mecca n verses and Medina n verses, with context to expose the truth to muslims and our own neighbours, schools, etc.
“And softly softly catchee the monkey”, so a mouth full truth is exposed, then some more of that truth !.
John A. Marre says
Murder by protected minorities is always treated as insignificant. Words spoken by the White/Christian majority are always treated as “hate speech.”
Angemon says
It’s a shame those pamphlets don’t include the source of the hadith they quote from so that doubters can check for themselves. It’s Sunan Abu Dawud, Book 38, Number 4447:
ninetyninepct says
The Alberta RCMP MUST investigate Islam and the Koran. The Koran meets every single requirement of the definition of hate speech, including death threats.
Why is that literature acceptable but not these flyers?
Pointing out that Islam is a barbaric evil cult that gained many of it’s members through violence, terror and fear and retains and controls most members with threats of violence is NOT insulting Islam, it is describing Islam. How can the truth be an insult?
Human Right people and the RCMP had better spend time researching Islam and their book of hate before they start pulling this heavy handed shit.
carol says
You can’t make this stuff up, its so horridly amusing:
“Alannah Davies, Edmonton resident who received the flyer in her mailbox and Jesse Lipscombe, founder of the racism initiative Make It Awkward, condemned the hate content of the flyer.”
Could they agree whether the hate content was that of SIOTW or from MO’s big epic? What a conundrum for these poor well-intentioned ladies!
And when one wonders:
“Will Alberta police investigate Mohammad’s ruling on gays as hate speech or will they investigate the hate speech that goes on in mosques and at al Quds day rallies” we can all be greatly entertained by the vision of Keynadian KEYSTONE COPS chasing about in a greatly amusing/confusing flurry!
Thanks so much Justin – and how does Sophie really feel about all this?
gravenimage says
Good point–often the “hate speech” is from the Qur’an and Hadith themselves. But just pointing this out is–insanely–considered “hate speech”.
carol says
John Stefan says: “John, we must not give up in trying to get people to know Islam, i.e. the teachings and ways found in the trilogy: i.e. the Qur’an, the Hadiths, and the Sira. If we give up, then satan who controls Islam will have it easier and quicker to subjugate our descendants and all the world.”
Nice sentiment, but I think one can very quickly get the drift and that’s about all the time the subject /”trilogy” merits. The problem seems to lie with the brainwashed and/or superficial adherents and we need to study and instead do the reverse “get to know the people of Islam” and I don’t mean any superficial graces – I mean the part of them that is vicious or deliberately derelict in their obligations to their fellow man. They’ll blow us back to the Dark Ages while others dither about.
gravenimage says
I don’t think we’re going to make any headway with Muslims themselves in most cases. Instead, it is important to educate Infidels as to the content and danger of Islam.