“Muslim terror groups had a much bigger plan to crush America than just through attacks like 9/11. Instead, the plan is to fill the country with like-minded Muslims through the country’s easy immigration laws and by having babies, and then using the U.S. legal and welfare system to turn the country into a system like Iran.”
“Warming to the topic, KSM smiled and said the media, either on purpose or without realizing it, would promote Islam’s cause and champion tearing down the measures put in place to protect the American people after 9/11. He said the media would promote al-Qaeda’s cause by framing the war against Islam (his characterization, not mine) as morally wrong, impossible to win, and fraught with unacceptable losses. He said the media’s response was one of Allah’s ‘gifts,’ one of the ways Allah preordained for Americans to set aside those things which kept us safe and prevented attacks in the immediate aftermath of 9/11.”
This is so close to what actually happened that it sounds like prophecy-after-the-fact. Or maybe Khalid Sheikh Mohammed is an unusually insightful human being. In any case, this is exactly what is happening.
“9/11 mastermind: Al Qaeda favors ‘immigration’ to defeat USA,” by Paul Bedard, Washington Examiner, November 23, 2016:
The jailed architect of 9/11 revealed that al Qaeda’s plan to kill the United States was not through military attacks but immigration and “outbreeding nonmuslims” who would use the legal system to install Sharia law, according to a blockbuster new book.
Khalid Sheikh Mohammed also predicted that intelligence officials using so-called “enhanced interrogation” techniques such the waterboarding he experienced would eventually come under attack from weak-kneed U.S. politicians and media.
In Enhanced Interrogation, CIA contractor James Mitchell tells for the first time about his role interrogating al Qaeda principals, many like KSM still jailed at Guantanamo Bay. He details accounts of waterboarding and other interrogation sessions of the nation’s most notorious enemies.
None more so than Mohammed. Among the most facinating aspects of the book are chatty discussions between KSM and Mitchell long after the waterboarding and before he was delivered to the prision at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, where he clammed — and lawyered — up.
In his book, Mitchell is not pushing for a return to waterboarding, especially for run-of-the-mill battlefield prisoners. He does, however, back aggressive interrogation the worst terrorists trained or willed to not cough up any secrets because he said it worked….
Snippets obtained by Secrets from the book set for release next Tuesday from Crown Forum show that Muslim terror groups had a much bigger plan to crush America than just through attacks like 9/11.Instead, the plan is to fill the country with like-minded Muslims through the country’s easy immigration laws and by having babies, and then using the U.S. legal and welfare system to turn the country into a system like Iran.Consider this passage in the book, Enhanced Interrogation: Inside the Minds and Motives of the Islamic Terrorists Trying to Destroy America, where KSM reveals the plan to Mitchell:
“It would be nice,” he said, if al Qaeda or like-minded Islamists could bring America to its knees with catastrophic attacks, but that was unlikely to happen; “not practical” is the wording he used. From his perspective, the long war for Islamic domination wasn’t going to be won in the streets with bombs and bullets and bloodshed. No, it would be won in the minds of the American people.
He said the terror attacks were good, but the “practical” way to defeat America was through immigration and by outbreeding non-Muslims. He said jihadi-minded brothers would immigrate into the United States, taking advantage of the welfare system to support themselves while they spread their jihadi message. They will wrap themselves in America’s rights and laws for protection, ratchet up acceptance of Sharia law, and then, only when they were strong enough, rise up and violently impose Sharia from within. He said the brothers would relentlessly continue their attacks and the American people eventually would become so tired, so frightened, and so weary of war that they would just want it to end.
“Eventually,” KSM said, “America will expose her neck to us for slaughter.”
Since the attacks, and during President Obama‘s two terms, Muslims from several countries that harbor terrorists have flooded into the U.S. And Obama has promised to open the borders for Syrian refugees whose backgrounds are difficult to investigate. President-elect Trump has vowed to reverse Obama’s plans.
In talks with the terrorist, Mitchell said that KSM discussed waterboarding and other interrogation techniques and said that if the tables were turned, “he would do the same thing to protect his way of life.”
He also predicted the downfall of the techniques and persecution of those involved.
KSM wagged his finger professorially at us and warned, “Soon they will turn on you.” He prophetically predicted that the press and some members of my own government would turn on me and Bruce and others like us who took aggressive action to prevent the next 9/11 attack and save American lives.
Warming to the topic, KSM smiled and said the media, either on purpose or without realizing it, would promote Islam’s cause and champion tearing down the measures put in place to protect the American people after 9/11. He said the media would promote al-Qaeda’s cause by framing the war against Islam (his characterization, not mine) as morally wrong, impossible to win, and fraught with unacceptable losses. He said the media’s response was one of Allah’s “gifts,” one of the ways Allah preordained for Americans to set aside those things which kept us safe and prevented attacks in the immediate aftermath of 9/11.
KSM said, “Your own government will turn on you. Your leaders will turn on you. They will turn on you to save themselves. It will play out in the media and strengthen the hearts of the brothers. It will recruit more to Allah’s cause because the press coverage will make the U.S. look weak and divided.”
Angemon says
I believe Trump may heed this warning.
Like happened in Lebanon.
Like happened with the Vietnam War.
Christianblood says
This is the original source of Al-Qaeda and the Taliban:
RichardL says
my enemy’s enemy is my friend, is the certain way to lose everything.
Never make deals with the enemy (all islamic countries).
Angemon says
Christianblood posted:
“This is the original source of Al-Qaeda and the Taliban:”
You mean, the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan and the murder of tens of thousands of Afghani citizens that led to a rebellion and a civil war?
rara says
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Cyclone
“Operation Cyclone was the code name for the United States Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) program to arm and finance the Jihad warriors, mujahideen, in Afghanistan from 1979 to 1989, prior to and during the military intervention by the USSR”
Note “prior to.”
Angemon says
rara posted:
“Note “prior to.””
Note the lack of citations. Note also that you cut the sentence in half, leaving out “in support of its client, the Democratic Republic of Afghanistan” – the Soviet invasion came as a consequence of the 1978 KGB-backed coup that placed a mass-murdering puppet in power. Turns out, Afghanis didn’t like to be murdered by the tens of thousand – go figure…
Christianblood says
rara posted
(..“Operation Cyclone was the code name for the United States Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) program to arm and finance the Jihad warriors, mujahideen, in Afghanistan from 1979 to 1989, prior to and during the military intervention by the USSR” Note “prior to.”..)
Well-said, rara! Good observation!
gravenimage says
“Christianblood” wrote:
This is the original source of Al-Qaeda and the Taliban
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More of the same from “Christianblood”–Al-Qaeda, the Taliban, and ISIS have nothing to do with Islam–instead, they are (supposedly) American.
kidder23 says
The whole ethos of islam is to dominate by out multiplying to bring shariah
Shan Lim says
“…the “practical” way to defeat America was through immigration and by outbreeding non-Muslims. He said jihadi-minded brothers would immigrate into the United States, taking advantage of the welfare system to support themselves while they spread their jihadi message. ”
That’s the very definition of infectious parasites and virulent viruses.
john spielman says
and that is what is already happening in the UK Germany France Belgium…… and the good old USA
Anne Smith says
It is also happening in Britain where the welfare system actively encourages their breeding and allows then to claim benefits for not working.
Today we hear in the news that it was UK benefits which contributed £3,000 to the murdering Bataclan terrorists in France. A Muslim who had £7,000 in his bank account and who was still allowed to claim benefits sent this money to his co-conspirators to fund the attacks in France.
And still they are allowed to claim all manner of benefits.
Know Thy Enemy says
The Islamists clearly have a strategy that is certain to work over the long run to subjugate the US. And this is why we need to declare Islam itself to be the enemy. Not “radical Islamic terrorism”, not “Salafist Islam”, but Islam, all of it! If this was successfully done in the past with Nazism and Communism, it can be done with Islam too (Those who know Islam well understand that it is primarily a political ideology cloaked as religion).
Once Islam is declared an enemy, then anyone promoting it or working to advance it, can be taken to task. Also, people can be educated about the dangers of Islam. School/College age Muslims can be educated about the harms of following this ideology. This way, no matter how many children the Muslims breed, those children will grow up to be ex-Muslims and hence will be harmless.
But first we need to strengthen the Republican Party. It is my strong belief that GOP won the elections despite its weaknesses. That is, we dodged a bullet. But the weaknesses are still there and are getting worse. Those weaknesses can easily result in GOP losses in the 2020 elections. More on that later.
Happy Thanksgiving to all.
June says
Someone needs to explain to this man that you can’t ‘outbreed’ Christianity.
Unlike Islam where you are born into it and are a slave of Islam, Christianity is something you CHOOSE.
They can’t wipe out Christianity like that because half the world could convert to Christianity tomorrow, regardless of what religion they are.
The only reason more people don’t leave Islam is because it’s generally a death sentence and they are afraid.
TheRemorselessHeadsman says
No question this is already happening in America. Two days ago, while shopping in a South Texas Walmart, I witnessed a hijab-wearing muslima going through the checkout with 4 young rodents in tow. The oldest no more than 6 years and the youngest in a sling on her chest. Groceries then paid for with an EBT (welfare) card. They will have us pay for our own destruction (if we allow it to continue).
David says
This I do not understand !
If your NOT even a Citizen, how in the hell do you rate ANY PUBLIC BENEFITS at all?
I know disabled US war Heroes who can’t get benefits!
Who is giving them to the MUDSLIMES? ??
Know Thy Enemy says
Just because they are Muslim does not mean that they are not citizen (on paper, that is) or green-card holders. In the US, any legal resident can apply for public benefits if they qualify.
Angemon says
David posted:
“This I do not understand !
If your NOT even a Citizen, how in the hell do you rate ANY PUBLIC BENEFITS at all?”
You should see the looks of disbelief I got when I told my friends, on the context of the latest American Presidential election (European here), that in almost half of US states ID is not required to vote and that some states overturned ID laws because they were deemed “racist”. They thought me mad or ill-informed.
Jane says
I am talking about all illegal and legal immigrant’s. They get everything from housing, food, health care and schooling on our tax dollars here in America. All along our Vet’s are living on the street and not getting any help.
Shmooviyet says
Saw a similar thing two days ago.
Mama had three little ones in Walgreen’s. She pulled out of her Coach bag a long, check-shaped paper at checkout; the cashier called another to ask “how do these work?” Mama got cash back from that slip.
Meanwhile some vets go to shelters for Thanksgiving dinner today.
It’s called “global redistribution of wealth” by some– USA has had it too good for too long.
CrossWare says
Stealth jihad way more dangerous than any open attack! Islam must be classified as an ideology (violent and supremacist cult) instead of a religion. We have to start treat it as other totalitarian ideologies like Nazism or Communism (the two closest ideological relative).
Until this not happen we will lose. They will always hide behind the protective laws designed for real religions.
Know Thy Enemy says
I wrote a comment saying basically the same thing but just noticed you beat me to it. We need to figure out how to make more people realize the danger posed by stealth jihad because unless people wake up to it, we will lose.
Trump said “I think Islam hates us.” We need to figure out how to tell people that not only is he correct, his is in fact an understatement.
JawsV says
Demographic Jihad.
Sam says
Well their plan has worked in Europe and Islam is doing a pretty good job here in the states. Look at the increase in muslimas in garbage bags in any metropolitan area.
To top it off a liberal neighbor just told me about her depression due to Trump winning the election.
How do you fight such ignorance of Jihad expansion?
High Hopes says
I read this site every day, and one thing I want to take from it into daily life is the example of Robert Spencer’s calm, measured, factual means of communicating this vital message. Working in the UK education system, the left has locked down opinion, Corbyn is King. For the first time this year, a student in full burqa has been attending, when I questioned the security of this, I was met with a wall of silence. No discernible policy, no willingness to discuss possible threat just blind political correctness. I am making plans to leave the UK, I cannot see a future here, the future demographics horrify me.
Anne Smith says
Not half as depressed as she is going to be when Sharia comes to a town near her.
don vito says
Perhaps hollywood will take notice and make a few movies defending US, na they won’t. Too much trumpophobia in hollywood.
Cretius says
Yes, not working and having more than one wife is viable as long as our welfare social net holds out Their motto ‘Born to breed.’ The Koran says that what non-believers have belongs to Muslims.
JR says
Be sure to read Khalid Sheikh Mohammed’s new book, “The Proper Care and Feeding of Your Islamic Breeders.”
gravenimage says
9/11 mastermind: Al-Qaeda now favors immigration and “outbreeding non-Muslims” to destroy US
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More proof that violent Jihad and stealth Jihad are one and the same–just differing tactics; same goal.
Crusades Were Right! says
Somebody should explain to this guy that in the West we consider talk about “outbreeding” rival groups to be distasteful, offensive and even racist.
Oh, wait… That only applies if white Christians do it!
ibrahim itace muhammed says
you christian false propagandists,why you always make reference to al-qaeda and isis rascals whenever you are talking about muslims.such misguided terror groups are not representing the minds of muslims or correct position of islam.they are the creation of christian west and evil jews.they are not properly learned on islam.they twist islamic sources to justified their wicked actions.suicide is now allowed in islamic jihad.in jihad you have to comply with sharia rules.first,jihad in the form of military confrontation can only be resorted to for self-defence or for the defence of the oppressed including non-muslims.secondly,if the circumstance warrants that military confrontation has to be resorted to,non-combatant civilian,women,children,christian or jewish priests,shall not be harmed.see sahihul buhari a chapter on jihad.alqaeda and isis are not complying with these sharia rules and as their jihad is acceptable to allah.suicide in most cases kill non-combatant civilians.in islam taking an innocent life is equal to eliminating the whole humanity.thus,muslims need not imigrate to the west so as to outnumber non-muslims for them to spread islam there.they are currently propagating islam and it is yielding good results.such wrong assumption is only within the calculations of christian evangelists and evil jews
Angemon says
ibrahim itace muhammed posted:
“you christian false propagandists”
What exactly is false propaganda and why do you assume Christians are behind it?
“why you always make reference to al-qaeda and isis rascals whenever you are talking about muslims.”
This is demonstrably false.
“such misguided terror groups are not representing the minds of muslims or correct position of islam.”
Wrong again. They quote extensively from islamic orthodoxy and quranic texts.
“they are the creation of christian west and evil jews.they are not properly learned on islam.”
Citation needed. If not, you’re just engaging in blood libel.
“they twist islamic sources to justified their wicked actions.”
Again, citation needed. Plus an example.
“suicide is now allowed in islamic jihad.”
I’m guessing you wanted to write “not” instead of “now”… Freudian slip?
“in jihad you have to comply with sharia rules.first,jihad in the form of military confrontation can only be resorted to for self-defence or for the defence of the oppressed including non-muslims.”
“First form of military confrontation”? What is the last? Oh, BTW, “self-defence” and “defence of the oppressed including non-muslims” are mutually exclusive. Plus, what constitutes “oppression”? Is a nation whose rulers received a letter from an islamic ruler saying “convert to islam and your lives and property are safe, refuse to convert and they’re not” and refused to convert “oppressing” anyone? They are, according to islamic orthodoxy, since they’re not letting their citizens follow the “true faith”.
“secondly,if the circumstance warrants that military confrontation has to be resorted to,non-combatant civilian,women,children,christian or jewish priests,shall not be harmed.”
Citation needed. There’s a hadith where muslims were conducting a night attack on a city and used catapults. When asked if that wouldn’t get civilians, inclusing women and children, killed, muhammad replied “they are of them”.
“see sahihul buhari a chapter on jihad.alqaeda and isis are not complying with these sharia rules”
Huh, they are. Al-Qaeda framed its actions as defensive jihad. ISIS claimed the seat of the caliphate, and only the caliph can call for offensive jihad. They are following islamic rules to the T.
“and as their jihad is acceptable to allah.”
Ah, another Freudian slip – I suspect you wanted to say that their jihad is not acceptable to allah.
“suicide in most cases kill non-combatant civilians.”
“They are of them”.
“in islam taking an innocent life is equal to eliminating the whole humanity.”
You ignoramus, I’ve told you several times I’ve read your books. Quran, 5:32:
As it is clearly demonstrated, the passage you selectively quoted from was meant as a reminder to Jews of what the Jewish scriptures say – the “if you kill an innocent it’s the same as killing all of humanity” is meant for Jews. What do muslims were told? See 5:33:
Would civilians paying taxes to, and supporting, a government that refuses to convert to islam qualify as “spreading corruption” in the land? Of course.
“thus,muslims need not imigrate to the west so as to outnumber non-muslims for them to spread islam there.”
That’s exactly what they’re doing, whether you say they “need not” or not.
“they are currently propagating islam and it is yielding good results.”
First of all, who is this “they” you are referring to? The alleged Christians and Jews you clam are behind Al-Qaeda and ISIS? Muslims in muslim lands? If so, what country is ruled by “correct” “interpretation” of islamic law?
“such wrong assumption is only within the calculations of christian evangelists and evil jews”
Or all those imams saying so…
Cretius says
Historically, Islam is only rolled back by military action. Besides how could anyone trust a Mohammedan whose religion encourages them to use deceit and lies to protect and to achieve Islamic goals. A treaty with a Muslim is worth nothing if you are not a Muslim and that is the word and practice of their prophet.
762x51FMJ says
Hillary’s plan would have worked great.
Create a second Arab Spring by financing more and more radical Islamic groups to depose more and more secular leaders, this greatly increases the ISIS footprint and the more refugees the more they get to raise taxes, it’s a win win for Democrats, they just take the 200 million Saudi Arabia pays them to shut down American drilling and block pipelines.. and at the end of their terms they fly to Geneva and retire in luxury, while the American cesspit they created, resorts to cannibalism…
Open the borders to allow a 550% increase in muslim only immigration.
simultaneously block all christian immigration and order all firearms confiscated.
promote mass abortion of American citizens..