The selective outrage over Maajid Nawaz and Ayaan Hirsi Ali being included on the Southern Poverty Law Center’s hit list of “anti-Muslim extremists” continues, as if they’re the only ones who don’t deserve to be equated with jihad terrorists as “anti-Muslim extremists.” Meanwhile, Maajid Nawaz himself is whining repeatedly and in self-contradictory fashion about how lists such as the SPLC’s ought not to be compiled, and how dreadful it is to be included on it with Pamela Geller, whom he clearly thinks deserves the “anti-Muslim extremist” designation for crimes such as opposing the Ground Zero Mosque and supporting resistance to Islamization in Britain. In this piece, an atheist living in Iran clears away that nonsense and explains what the SPLC is really supporting — which was clear all along, except, apparently, to Nawaz and his Leftist supporters.
“My Open Letter to the Southern Poverty Law Center,” by Kaveh Mousavi, Patheos, October 30, 2016:
I used the contact form of the Southern Poverty Law Center website and sent them this letter in reaction to them publishing an “anti-Muslim extremist” list which included Ali and Nawaz. I don’t know if they’ll reply or give the stock reply, but I did what I do. Read my initial reaction here. Enjoy.
To Whom It May Concern,
Southern Poverty Law CenterI recently came across your report on “anti-Muslim extremists” which includes the names of Maajid Nawaz and Ayaan Hirsi Ali. I write to you in order to cordially ask you to include my name in the list as an example of an awful extremist. Following you will see my justification for this humble request.
I am an atheist living in Iran. The name you see here is not my real name, that is due to my extremism. As a bigot, I believe that there is no God, and that there should be dissenting voices within the Muslim culture championing freedom and equality, and that some of those voices must challenge religious institutes. Because of these extremist beliefs I face the danger of consequences at the hands of the victims of my bigotry, ranging from execution to losing my livelihood to being ostracized by the society. Therefore I am sure that you forgive me for not lifting my hood. (Here I compared myself with the KKK for your pleasure).
I believe I am far worthier than Mr. Nawaz for the title of “anti-Muslim extremist”. I write for a blog called “On the Margin of Error” on the atheist channel of Patheos network, in which I have three aims: one is to criticize Islamic ideologies, traditions, and institutions. That is, by definition, extremist and bigoted. My second goal is to convince Westerners to support Iranian reformists within the regime and to encourage diplomacy with Iran. (I said I’m a bigot, not a competent one).
But the third reason is the most important: I try to narrate the story of an ex-Muslim. In the report it was said that Mr. Nawaz sharing a cartoon that Muslims consider blasphemous was one reason for being on the list, well, you know what is the ultimate blasphemy according to the Muslims? Apostasy! In fact, apostates are considered unclean by Muslims. That makes me much more extremist than Mr. Nawaz. In fact, Mr. Nawaz can easily rectify his extremist stance by drawing a moral equivalence between the cartoonist and those who want to behead him, but I, this living blasphemy in flesh and blood, can only rectify it by committing suicide.
I will try to not take up much of your time. I will list some of my extremist stances. This form does not allow for links, but I invite you to check out my blog as evidence. I’m sure you will find out that there are many more bigoted ideas of mine to be found there.
- I believe that the Qur’an is a violent book. I respect the goals of Muslims who want to advance peaceful interpretations, but I think they’re wrong. While I consider myself an ally of progressive Muslims, I think it’s my right to express my intellectual disagreement with them regarding their scriptures.
- I think Muslim societies are not completely blameless in the violent actions of the few. While terrorists are indeed a minority, they also are symptoms of wider social diseases such as sexism and bigotry toward others. I guess that wanting to reform the society from bottom is extremist, and a moderate try to ignore the social roots of Islamic extremism.
- I think it’s the moral duty of everyone to reject silencing and show Muslims that they cannot expect others to adhere to their religion and to respect a warlord who died 1500 years ago.
Normally when an organization claims to “fight hate” and “teach tolerance”, I expect it to support people like me. Because I think I do those things. But it’s clear that the existence of Islamophobia in the West warrants such a reaction that Islamic societies should have no internal critics, and that “fighting hate”, for someone like me, means simply not existing.
That is why I ask you to include me in your list. I believe it will be mutually beneficial. You will have a more comprehensive list, and I will wear your scarlet letter like a badge of honor.
Sincerely yours,
Kaveh Mousavi,
Ex-Muslim, atheist, reformist, extremist

john spielman says
excellent article and I await a reply from the SPLA
JIMJFOX says
Beautiful piece of sarcastic irony plus that AWFUL thing to the religious- TRUTH.
eduardo odraude says
The irreligious can be every bit as averse to truth as the religious, and only someone foreign to the truth could fail to see that.
Kepha says
How true, Eduardo. While “Mr. Mpousavi” is doubtlessly a brave man due to his position in Iran, I am a little tired of the worshipers of science, self, or state over here in the States pretending that they know “Truth”–when their whole worldview demands that they keep seeking it (implying that withing the parameters of their worldview, it is something that is never to be found).
Jaem says
How about everyone who stands for freedom of speech or even just freedom writes to them and asks to be on their list. Their list would be so long that they may rethink the word “extremist”.
daniel sebold says
An excellent idea, but only if we can put a muzzle on Graveimage first.
gravenimage says
What? Does daniel sebold hate Anti-Jihadists that much?
daniel sebold says
I think Daniel may have been joking.
gravenimage says
But you aren’t sure? Perhaps you should ask Daniel…
john spielman says
or SPLC ( SOUTHERN POVERTY LAW ASSOCIATION vs CENTER
daniel sebold says
Jesus, that was beautifully written. Must have been inspired by Jesus himself: an unraveling of the Orwellian American and British left as well. Fricking insane. If I go back to the States I am going to keep my mouth shut, though the Southern Poverty Law Center is probably monitoring me right now, and so, just in case, I just wanted to say that Muhammad was a really hip guy for marrying a nine year old. Hey, what do you think of that, Southern Poverty Law Center? Coming from a state like Alabama they are probably cool with that.
David says
Age to “Legally Marry”, even with Parental consent, has never been less then age 12. That’s for both children. And that’s across the South.
daniel sebold says
Yes, well, good point, as usual. I love the South. What you see is what you get.
Carol says
David, I checked legal marriage laws for teen marriages and half the country including GA, NC and KY is 16-17 with parent consent. North Carolina need a court order to marry age to age 14, and not allowed below that age. AL, SC, Virginia, W Virginia are 18; MS and TN 21. So no you are incorrect about child marriages being legal in southern states. I guess there’s a lot of prejudice against the South based on media and TV shows. The winner of the youngest marriageable age, (drum roll please!!!) is New Hampshire!.(13-14 with parent consent and judicial waiver) I guess that’s a Southern state as well. Here’s the link:
http://marriage.about.com/cs/teenmarriage/a/teenus.htm
gravenimage says
All true, Carol.
Angemon says
daniel sebold posted:
“Fricking insane. If I go back to the States I am going to keep my mouth shut”
Why? The leftist intelligentsia will certainly enjoy your anti-Christian bigotry.
Jay Boo says
sebold is real a piece of crap here.
Why does he even choose to make a point about attacking Christianity in such a sleazy way — on a story about SPLC?
SPLC attacks Christianity on a regular basis.
If kill-crazy jihadis ever come storming into a building with guns blazing looking for infidels to kill where sebold is present, it won’t be hard to spot sebold because he will be the one running around saying “Please don’t shoot me” while pointing out the hiding places of unarmed men, women and children.
daniel sebold says
What anti Christian bigotry? I was raised Christian. I was slapped around every day by Christian lay teachers in Catholic school. I was told that having sexual thoughts about girls was a sin, and was slapped around for that. i was told that masturbation is a sin. I was told that the world is six thousand years old and that evolution was wrong. I was told that only girls can wear bikinis to the beach, that boys in Speedos are homosexuals, that homosexuality is a sin, this after learning that heterosexuality is a sin. So where do you go from there, be you an American Catholic or a Saudi Muslim?. It is not possible for me to be a bigot. How can I possibly be a bigot? A bigot is someone who knows nothing about Christians, has never lived amongst them. I have also lived amongst Muslims, and frankly, I don’t see a lot of difference between Muslims and Christians.
JIMJFOX says
What a pigheaded religiot you are. Both christian bigots par excellence. Pity because both religious and atheists have the common enemy- Islam. But it’s an Abrahamic ‘religion’, just like yours, isn’t it?
Time for you to start the abuse [sorry, ‘christian forgiveness’]
But then, this will likely be censored in the name of ‘free speech’…
JIMJFOX says
What a pigheaded religiot you are. Both christian bigots* par excellence. Pity because both religious and atheists have the common enemy- Islam. But it’s an Abrahamic ‘religion’, just like yours, isn’t it?
Time for you to start the abuse [sorry, ‘christian forgiveness’]
[Angemon + Jay Boo]
But then, this will likely be censored in the name of ‘free speech’…
daniel sebold says
I have already been there. i was there in the ’91 Gulf War. How many wars have you fought in?
Jay Boo says
Look at all that off topic bait with a false equivalent tease.
What the hell is your real purpose here Jerk – fox & sebold?
daniel sebold says
I am sorry, I didn’t realize that this web page was reserved for fascist Christians who only want to commit genocide on the Muslim world. As I say, I don’t see a lot of difference between Christian hate mongers and Muslim hate mongers. My interest here is in how these two moron religions are so similar. Seriously, were all your teachers creationists? What a nightmare that must have been for the kids in your school who read books, who want to study astronomy, physics, and chemistry and understand how this Universe and this planet have evolved, something that has got to be utterly boring to you. But now, as I reflect on my childhood, I think that is what was happening. I am so fascinated in the America I grew up in and how I forgot so much about how Jesus seems to be behind everything, including things that look liberal on the surface, such as multiculturalism, which is really neoliberalism: bomb the hell out of a country with brown people, then bring the surviving elites from that culture into the country in the hope that you can turn them into Christian capitalists. It all looks so liberal and non racist when it is really just pure fascism, because, really, if these Muslims don’t come around to Jesus as you had planned, you are either going to have to either run them out or kill them.
Jay Boo says
The topic is SPLC sleaze
Jimfox and sebold
Jay Boo says
J-Fox SPAMS the same off topic gibberish then whines like a grievance mongering Muzzie in advance that his off topic double-post might be deleted as an off topic (snuck in) double post SPAM .
Can we believe anything Mutt & Jeff above have to say?
eduardo odraude says
It is just ignorance to act as thought Islam and Christianity are morally equivalent. Muslims and Christians can of course be morally equivalent, but the teachings they follow — even if those teachings should turn out to be tissues of pure fantasy — have very different social outcomes. The teachings of Jesus lead, over time, to the separation of religion and state, and to human freedom. This is also true in significant part of the Old Testament. Both parts of the Bible are based on the concept of covenants — contracts — and it is that paradigm, in significant part, that allowed freedom and contractual societies, to evolve in Europe. As for separation of religion and state, that stems to a large extent from Jesus saying such things as “Give to Caesar the things that are Caesar’s, to God the things that are God’s,” and also, “my kingdom is not of this world,” and then his example, not to lord it with earthly power, but to take the lowliest task as a servant – washing people’s feet. As I say, even if we think Jesus never existed, those teachings are infinitely more benign than the teachings of Muhammad and Muhammad’s example. Muhammad became Caesar, or at any rate the ruler of a theocratic state, and there is virtually no concept in Islam of any distinction between religion and state. Similarly, Allah is much more a God of fiat than is the God of the Bible. In the Bible we are God’s children and he is a father. In the Qur’an Allah has no children, and we are his servants or slaves. These ideas, even if there is no God, have huge social differences in outcome. So just because you had some bad expieriences with some self-described Christians, does not mean they were true Christians, and you should stop being spoiled, ignorant brats bitching about your own crappy upbringing and blaming it on Christianity.
Beagle says
Daniel,
The Catholic church does not claim the universe is 6,000 years old. Since LeMaitre conceived the Big Bang Theory the Catholics have been modern astronomy enthusiasts . So unless you are very old, your story has a major hole in it.
Kay says
@ daniel sebold–
Truly I’m sorry that your early faith formation was harmful and not life giving. That is something to grieve.
Yet God is seeking you. And if you sit with Him, pour out your heart, maybe read Psalms, you will find answers to questions you might not even know you have.
Clearly Christianity and Mohammedism are not similar. But Robert Spencer has whole books on that topic, and it is not the topic here.
Best wishes–
daniel sebold says
I am not sure a “piece of crap” is capable of grasping Psalms (am I only a piece of crap? Can’t I be one great big steaming pile of crap instead?. Honestly, you guys, try to use your own words and not the phrases that first come into your heads But it takes a piece of crap to know a piece of crap, and I would be very interested in knowing what the good Christian folk on this page have been taught regarding their bodies and sexual issues. Maybe I am wrong about Jesus. Maybe the hip new Jesus of the Twenty-First Century says, “Go forth and masturbate.” “Go to the beach and wear whatever you want, male or female. Just don’t be sexist. The genders are equal,” you know, the famous androgynous beardless metro sexual Jesus of Byzantine Christianity which you can find in a fourteen hundred year old cave fresco as old as Muhammad up on the hill in Thesssaloniki in Greece. On the other hand, maybe I am right. Maybe you Christians have totally internalized and accepted your oppression the way so many Muslim women willfully defer to the burkah, or Muslim males defer to their stupid dishdashes, every male in the Middle East wearing excactly the same thing, believing that it is a good thing because it shows their purity and their submission to the sky daddy patriarch.
But the core of the problem, once you get passed all these moral issues of religion versus freedom and individuality and turn out a supposedly liberal open-minded Christian is this: is it right? Does it make sense, all this talk of original sin, walking on water, raising the dead, born of a virgin, son of God? At least the Muslims don’t make the fantastic unprovable claim that their prophet is divine, and that speaks well for them, because great claims demand great proofs. These religions all seem ridiculous to me. The way liberal Christians get past all this is to cherry pick their favorite lines from the Bible like: “Before removing the speck from someone else’s eye remove the log from your own” But that doesn’t make you a Christian because you like some of the things Jesus said. I don’t believe that the son of the creator of the cosmos of four hundred billion galaxies is an advanced primate first century Jew. It is a huge very old Universe and our little speck of a planet is dying. In only two billion years, no matter how well we take care of this planet, the sun, which is five billion years old right now–in only two billion years the Sun, being a typical G type yellow star, of which are fifteen percent of the stars in the Universe, is going to swell up large enough to cook all the life here on this planet. In two billion years there will be no life on this planet. Of course our species will have been long extinct in less than a million years from now at best, possibly wiped out because our medicines won’t be able to keep up with the mutations in the bacteria on the planet. There is the passage in the Bible where Jesus says to not worry about germs. Great advice. Is this what we need, a guy who sometimes says profound things, but then turns around and says stupid things? But let’s believe him because he groovy and it feels to good to believe. “Why do I believe in Jesus? Because I couldn’t live in a Universe where there wasn’t a Jesus.” Just substitute the words “tooth fairy”
gravenimage says
daniel sebold wrote:
I don’t see a lot of difference between Muslims and Christians.
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Of course–no difference between Shari’ah law and the free West…sarc/off
daniel sebold says
I am talking about as people. I don’t see much difference as a whole. The government they live under is a different matter
gravenimage says
JIMJFOX wrote:
But then, this will likely be censored in the name of ‘free speech’…
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This poster comments here all the time–including slinging anti-Christian claptrap on a regular basis. When has he ever been censored here?
gravenimage says
daniel sebold wrote:
I am sorry, I didn’t realize that this web page was reserved for fascist Christians who only want to commit genocide on the Muslim world.
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daniel sebold has made this grotesque claim before–talk about projection!
daniel sebold says
Gravenimage, you have responded to people on this web page who have talked about killing Muslims. I think your reaction was, well, Muslims are not an ethnic group but a religious group. So as long as it is not ethnic cleansing but religious cleansing is that okay with you? Just curious.
I mean, where did I ever get the idea that there were people on this web page who wanted to slaughter Muslims? You are responding to them. I got it from this web page and from your mild responses to their thoughts. Hey, don’t be a racist. They are a religious group. No condemnation whatsoever of the idea of killing Muslims just because of their religion. You didn’t say anything against that at all. Why not? What a good Christian you are to distinguish between ethnic cleansing and a religious cleansing, with no condemnation of the latter–just as Jesus would do.
gravenimage says
More from daniel sebold:
Gravenimage, you have responded to people on this web page who have talked about killing Muslims. I think your reaction was, well, Muslims are not an ethnic group but a religious group. So as long as it is not ethnic cleansing but religious cleansing is that okay with you? Just curious.
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What *grotesque calumny*. Yes, I have noted that Islam is not a race–because it is not.
Your then claiming that I have perforce called for genocide of a religious group is absolutely false. I have never, in fact, called for violence at all.
More:
I mean, where did I ever get the idea that there were people on this web page who wanted to slaughter Muslims? You are responding to them. I got it from this web page and from your mild responses to their thoughts. Hey, don’t be a racist. They are a religious group. No condemnation whatsoever of the idea of killing Muslims just because of their religion. You didn’t say anything against that at all. Why not? What a good Christian you are to distinguish between ethnic cleansing and a religious cleansing, with no condemnation of the latter–just as Jesus would do.
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What meretricious claptrap.
daniel sebold says
Gravenimage: Very well. Perhaps you should speak with at least the same moral indignation against these people and their insane ideas as you do me, who does not possess such ideas. You could say, “Hey, you piece of shit,” but somehow these people don’t deserve to be called pieces of shit. The genocidal maniacs seem to occupy a more hallowed ground than does Daniel “piece of shit.”
gravenimage says
daniel sebold wrote:
Gravenimage: Very well. Perhaps you should speak with at least the same moral indignation against these people and their insane ideas as you do me, who does not possess such ideas. You could say, “Hey, you piece of shit,” but somehow these people don’t deserve to be called pieces of shit. The genocidal maniacs seem to occupy a more hallowed ground than does Daniel “piece of shit.”
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I never called daniel sebold a “piece of shit”–more calumny from this dishonest poster.
And the idea that I consider calling for genocide “hallowed ground” is, of course, *much worse* calumny. I have never called for such violence, and when I have seen it I have never countenanced it.
There is *actual* genocide being committed over much of the Muslim world against Infidels–does daniel sebold have a problem with that?
“Muslim cleric calls for genocide of Jews and atheists”
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2016/04/muslim-cleric-calls-for-genocide-of-jews-and-atheists
“Public demonstration to stop genocide of Yazidis in Northern Iraq at White House yesterday”
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/10/public-demonstration-to-stop-genocide-of-yazidis-in-northern-iraq-at-white-house-yesterday
There are many more such horrific stories, of course.
Why is this poster even here? Certainly, it does not appear that he is interested in opposing bloody Jihad–including genocide.
Dennis says
Excellent and well expressed. I am an atheist who has seen Islamic abuses here in India. SPLC please include me in your list. All of us who have seem or experienced the rule of Islam out to write to the SPLC and ask to be on there list. Wear their title of islamophobe with honor!
Thought_Weaver says
A resounding slap reverberating through the cheeks of pseudo liberals and leftists. Respect from an Indian.
Praeceptor Maximus says
Hear, hear.
David says
That letter is from an educated man! And he’s right. There is no valid reason why the SPLC should have “missed” getting him on their LIST.
But then, I guess that myself and everyone who has a habit of trying to spread the simple TRUTH about islam (the religion started by the Prince of Darkness himself) will eventually make it onto the SPLC “hate list” .
As for myself, I would consider it A High Honor indeed!
RonaldB says
Well, let’s cut through it.
The $PLC is not going to respond to Kaveh Mousavi for two reasons.
1) He’s in Iran and so doesn’t affect the SPLC revenue collection.
2) He’s relatively unknown, won’t jog the contributors to the SCLC, and so doesn’t affect the SPLC revenue collection.
You can see there’s a wide variety of reasons the SPLC would include someone on its hate list. A cynic might say each reason is a subcategory of affecting the SPLC revenue collection.
The SPLC is an affinity scam, targeting mainly soft-headed, leftist, Jewish armchair radicals who wish to be part of the good fight and do their part to fight the (non-existent) KKK and Nazi militia groups, and bigotry in general. These radicals don’t spend too much time defining bigotry, as their primary reflex is to lead through emotions rather than logic. But, they know it when they see it.
The SPLC has several hundred million socked away in hedge funds and overseas accounts. They hit their contributors for operating funds, since their reserve capital is earmarked for future executive salaries and can’t be diverted for mere operations expenses.
The really, really effective part of the SCLC is its imaginative and vivid donations appeals, featuring the ugliest, swastika-laden, unshaven porcine bullyboys you’d ever want to see. The SCLC stands alone between these harbingers of violence and hate and YOU: and if you don’t want them to get to you and all those helpless minorities you’re so concerned with (in theory), you’d better renew your membership.
Jay Boo says
SPLC
(Syphoning) – (Pockets) – of – (Liberals) – for – (Cash)
Mubarak says
The president for the Southern Bigotry Law Center, Richard Cohen, will probably just ignore Mr. Kaveh Mousavi’s application to join the list, since the list is only an intimidating weapon against people who object to be included on it. Mr Kaveh Mousavi is far too courageous and presents by contrast a threat to Mr. Cohen’s own lifestyle and weltanschauung.
August West says
National Review had an editorial on this. It was reasonable I suppose but did not mention Spencer by name that I noticed.
Mark A says
Excellent use of sarcasm to attack the SPLC.
Kudos to Kaveh Mousavi. I’ll check out his work on Patheos.
Robert, Kaveh Mousavi is possibly another writer whose work you may want to post on JW in future.
eduardo odraude says
Brilliant bit of intellectual judo. Accept the label of the enemy for a reductio ad absurdum. But calling it judo is inadequate, because there is at the same time a kind of sadness and gentleness in what he wrote, that might even touch the heart of fools at SPLC, if they have a heart.
Beagle says
Unless he included a check for $100,000,000 the SPLC will remain unmoved. Soros pays well.
Beagle says
I became an anti-Muslim extremist by reading the Islamic corpus of theology and paying attention to the news for decades, minus the propaganda spin of course. If only Ayatollah Obama, Mufti Merkel, Sheikh Kerry and the like had more pull in the ulama to implement their Unicorn Peaceful and Tolerant Islam. But sadly, they don’t.
Anish says
Excellent letter !
But then why should SPLC, progressive left and Islamist apologists get away with mere rebukes or words? I would like a comprehensive hit list to be drawn up with names of all those progressive left and Islamist apologists. Then I would like to see them all stripped of US citizenship and be deported to one of many Islamic states. Those fools defend Islam and so I think they belong in Islamic countries. There are so many Islamic countries for them to choose from, lucky bastards.
Custos Custodum says
The entire approach is FUNDAMENTALLY FLAWED. By treating the SPLC (Scamming Progressives Lusting for Cash) as an authority, the letter writer falls into their trap.
Much better to set up a few competing websites listing terror-supporting and/or corrupt organizations, starting with Scamming Progressives Lusting for Cash.
gravenimage says
An ex-Muslim’s open letter to the Southern Poverty Law Center
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Excellent stuff from Kaveh Mousavi.
I fervently hope he is able to stay safe in Iran.
martti_s says
Karl Marx was right when he said “when something does not seem to make sense, just follow the money”.
In this particular case of SPLC hit list it is evident that they are marketing their opinions to certain circles, the same ones that are already financing the academic shairs of Islamic and Middle Eastern studies. There is absolutely no intellectual or moral sense in naming people who discuss on public forums the obvious problems that various groups of people cause in the name of Islam.
None of the nominees has ever physically hurt a Muslim, not even threatened to do so. Quite a few, on the other hand, have had attempts at their lives and all of them have had death threats. The logic of the list is totally upside down. These people are the targets of violent Islamists. Ordinary Muslims have absolutely nothing to fear from them, except maybe having the basics of their beliefs shaken. Which would be a very good thing to happen every now and then, no matter what the beliefs might be.
In my mind a question arises: Who might benefit from such a list? Of course, the Brotherhood associates, CAIR and their Iranian counterpart. They might actually give money to those who are throwing mud at people who challenge their world views publicly and often mercilessly showing their incompetence (here Robert Spencer is the champion!), their blind adherence to counterproductive traditions as Ayaan Hirsi Ali describes in her books and presentations, their distrust, paranoia, double talk and ingrained hatred as told in Brigitte Geller’s autobiography. Maajid Nawaz is a high-profile reformer which is as bad as an apostate in their creed. He looks good and is an excellent orator. He also is British and proud of it which goes against the hardliners’ policy of never co-operating with the existing regime.
Still, why would the Islamists pay the SPLC for publishing such a list?
The answer that comes to my mind is scary: It is to defame them before the real hit.
Like the Nazis did with the Jews, first deprive them of their human value and their dignity. Then you can proceed with false accusations –in this case hate speech and blasphemy– and involve the subjects in expensive and time consuming law suits as we have seen with Geert Wilders and Tommy Robinson. It is particularly worrisome how little attention the armed attack against Pamela Geller got in the press. There seemed to be a “she asked for it” feeling shared by the journalists. Imagine the amount of embassies burned if a CAIR official or an Islamic Studies “academic” would have an attempt of his life!
Such hate lists are worrisome but they help us see what is going on. There are connections. The “conspiracy” is real, it is mapped in “The Milestones” of Sayeed Qutb, the father of the Brotherhood. The founding documents of CAIR are freely available on the net. We can ask if a conspiracy that is so widely publicized, can be called a conspiracy any longer.
Somehow, when these master plans are brought up, a big part of the media wants to deny their authenticity, no matter how many documents, whether written or filmed, are brought to their view. This is the conspiracy, the Omerta, the silence of the lambs.
Sorry about the long posting. I owe you a potato.
daniel sebold says
Nicely reasoned, nicely written. Thanks for the post.
Yorkshire Kufir says
A subtle humerous and incisive mind, no wonder he gave up the religion of permanent offence