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As Geert Wilders again goes on trial for “hate speech,” European media campaigns furiously against him

Nov 2, 2016 10:50 am By Robert Spencer

Geert Wilders has yet again gone on trial in the Netherlands for “hate speech,” and this time the case against him is especially flimsy: as Europe is roiled by the criminal activity of Muslim migrants, he is being accused of “hate speech” for saying that the massive influx of immigrants from Morocco (from which most of the Muslim migrants in the Netherlands come) has to be stopped.

This trial could very easily backfire on the Dutch inquisitors, and make Wilders more popular than ever with the people of the Netherlands and Europe in general, as they are increasingly fed up with the political and media elites’ forcing them to accept a massive influx of Muslim migrants that ensures a future only of civil strife, bloodshed, and Sharia oppression.

Consequently, those elites are trying desperately to shore up their position. In this DW piece by freelance “journalist” Teri Schultz, Wilders is (of course) “far-right,” that all-purpose and meaningless semaphore that serves only to signal to right-thinking Deutsche Welle readers that Wilders must be opposed and shunned, his positions unexamined. Schultz contacted me to serve as the villain of her piece, being sure to tell her hapless readers that I am “known for extreme anti-Islam views,” to make sure that if any of them are foolish enough to find themselves agreeing with me, they will immediately reverse themselves and get their minds right. The term “extreme” also, since the Western governing class unanimously refers to jihad terrorists as “extremists,” also implies that I am a terrorist. (After the article came out, I challenged Schultz on this; she replied: “I don’t think even you would consider your views ‘mainstream’, do you?” I responded: “Absolutely yes. My views were the broad mainstream in the Western world from 632 AD until the 1960s. What changed? Not Islamic teaching.” To that she said: “Okay. You’d have to argue it with another expert, which I am not. But thanks again for contributing.” Indeed, she is just a mouthpiece for the views the political and media elites want us to hold.)

In any case, Schultz’s article merely reveals the desperation of the ruling class and the self-appointed opinion-shapers. They can call those of us who wish to defend the people and culture of Europe and North America “far-right” and “extreme” every day (and they do), but the public can see with their eyes what is happening. Wilders’ popularity isn’t growing because he is a charming fellow. It’s growing because he speaks the truths that the political and media elites are in a frenzy to obscure. And it’s only going to get worse for them: the Brexit vote and the Trump candidacy (whether he wins or loses) shows that their hegemony is beginning to be challenged. Those challenges will continue, and grow. They will before too long be decisively voted out and repudiated.

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“Far-right Wilders skips hate speech trial in Amsterdam,” by Teri Schultz, DW, November 1, 2016:

On Monday, the far-right leader Geert Wilders refused to show up for his trial on charges of hate speech and incitement of violence for comments he made against ethnic Moroccans in the Netherlands.

Instead, Wilders let his legal representatives repeat the views that caused the charges to be brought against him: that the country has a “mega Moroccan problem” and that too many Moroccans get welfare benefits and commit crimes. Wilders believes that he has said “nothing wrong” as he is just vocalizing the views of his constituents….

But while judges ponder the legality of Wilders’ views their popularity grows, as evidenced by Wilders’ showing in the polls and the growth of populist, anti-immigrant parties across Europe, such as the far-right Alternative for Germany. In a world where US Republican Party nominee Donald Trump campaigns on building a wall on the US-Mexican border and a plan to block Muslims from coming to the United States, controversial commentators such Robert Spencer, director of JihadWatch.org, promote Wilders’ perspective. Known for extreme anti-Islam views, Spencer said Wilders’ comments are not out of line.

“Moroccans don’t have some natural right to immigrate to the Netherlands any more than anyone does to anywhere,” Spencer told DW. “And so if someone expresses an opinion saying they would like to slow the rate or stop that immigration, there is nothing ipso facto hateful about that.”

Moroccans make up approximately 2 percent of the Dutch population. Asked how Wilders could consider that as excessive, Spencer said the concern centers more on the growth rate than the actual number of inhabitants at the moment.

Spencer also said since Wilders himself has shown no tendency toward violence – though the court is considering whether he’s encouraging that outcome – the greater “danger to society” would be for Wilders’ remarks to be deemed illegal hate speech.

But European Parliament lawmaker Cecile Kyenge doesn’t think remarks like Wilders’ can be explained away like that. “There has been a constant stream of concerning comments from politicians across Europe,” she said, “that fall short of the responsibilities they have as public figures and opinion leaders. In recent months, politicians have disseminated false information and engaged in hate speech against minorities for political gain. Actions such as these are all the more damaging when they are propagated by politicians.”…

Though Wilders has been acquitted on hate-speech allegations before, Spencer doesn’t necessarily think he’ll be found not guilty again, because Spencer said the ruling elite is afraid of losing power to him. “I wouldn’t be in the least surprised if he were convicted this time and if they don’t convict him this time, they’ll convict him next time. But eventually,” he predicted, “they might have a situation where they’re convicting the sitting prime minister.”

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Comments

  1. SAHANI says

    Nov 2, 2016 at 10:57 am

    its time west and europe should join hands take over all the islamic countries as these local convert muslims don’t know how to handle their lives and make right decision.
    governing a nation need skills good laws and rule . muslim laws area antihuman.

    • tom parry says

      Nov 2, 2016 at 5:58 pm

      i agree, Only 2percent moroocan muslims in holland, wow that is 99 percent too amny

      • Annelies says

        Nov 4, 2016 at 5:39 am

        Your numbers and facts are incorrect, get better informed before you wright such stories!!!

      • gravenimage says

        Nov 5, 2016 at 3:04 am

        The overall Muslim population of the Netherlands is supposed to be 4%.

    • gravenimage says

      Nov 2, 2016 at 7:46 pm

      The Muslim world needs to be isolated, instead. This is what we did from about 1800 until about fifty years ago–it worked better than anything else in warding off the threat of Islam.

      • Michael says

        Nov 2, 2016 at 10:08 pm

        A sane and practicable strategy. There must have been some leaders in 1800 that had actually read the koran.

        • gravenimage says

          Nov 3, 2016 at 4:14 pm

          Yes–Thomas Jefferson and John Adams. They knew how violent Islam is.

  2. SAHANI says

    Nov 2, 2016 at 10:59 am

    Every local citizen is bound to safe guard his own nation wilder is doing just that .Jjudges and leaders looks like bribed by islamic kingdoms. acting foolish to protect islam.

  3. Don McKellar says

    Nov 2, 2016 at 11:10 am

    “My views were the broad mainstream in the Western world from 632 AD until the 1960s. What changed? Not Islamic teaching.”

    Who would have thought that the 1960’s flake-out period would have caused such damage to Europe 30 to 40 years after it happened? But it has!

    • SteveFinSC says

      Nov 2, 2016 at 11:51 am

      It’s actually quite easy to understand. The empty-headed radical teens and twenties of the 1960s are now running those countries. They’re so full of themselves and so sure they’re right that they still have the same foolish, reality-denying ideas that they had in the ’60s. They have no common sense and they have not grown up one bit.

      • linnte says

        Nov 2, 2016 at 12:32 pm

        Correct! And I KNOW because I was one of them! The hippie movement damaged the whole world. It’s not to late to turn back to family values and Christian teaching!

        • JIMJFOX says

          Nov 2, 2016 at 3:04 pm

          I’m doubtful. Western ‘values’ are overwhelmingly materialistic, kids dump you as soon as their cars are bought, education paid for and often house deposit stumped up.
          Henceforth you are an ageing burden. Unless of course you are considerably wealthy.

        • gravenimage says

          Nov 2, 2016 at 7:54 pm

          JIMJFOX wrote:

          I’m doubtful. Western ‘values’ are overwhelmingly materialistic, kids dump you as soon as their cars are bought, education paid for and often house deposit stumped up…
          ……………………

          Right–forget freedom, moral decency, individual rights, democracy, and the rule of law…

          Really, Jim, if this is what you really believe Western values are, why not just convert to Islam?

          The truth is that we need to reassert the true values of the West, and not buy the Muslim and Leftist line that the West has no values and might as well submit to savagery.

        • gravenimage says

          Nov 2, 2016 at 7:55 pm

          Hi, Linnte! 🙂

        • Mark Swan says

          Nov 2, 2016 at 10:27 pm

          Hi gravenimage, Hi linnte

        • linnte says

          Nov 3, 2016 at 4:07 pm

          Hello to you Mark Swan! ?

        • gravenimage says

          Nov 3, 2016 at 4:19 pm

          Mark, good to see you posting again.

      • Anne Smith says

        Nov 3, 2016 at 9:01 am

        Couldn’t agree more

  4. Jay Boo says

    Nov 2, 2016 at 11:18 am

    I read that BBC propaganda radio gets much of its funding from license fees. I am not sure what that entails. Does anyone in the UK know if they get any money from taxpayers? I will offer a thanks in advance since I will likely be away from my computer soon.

    • Charli Main says

      Nov 2, 2016 at 12:01 pm

      The BBC is entirely funded by the British taxpayer through the instrument of licence fees. If you own a TV set, you have to purchase a licence fee. Failure to do so will lead to a massive fine and possible imprisonment.

      Unlike ITV and other TV companies, the BBC is not permitted to acquire revenue by advertising domestic products or social services.

      • Jay Boo says

        Nov 2, 2016 at 12:30 pm

        Thank you Charlie

        Before I head out I would add that BBC’s nonstop use of the term (So-Called) Islamic State would be comical if it were not for some gullible people actually believing it.
        So Called (British public service broadcaster) BBC.
        SC-BBC for short

        New acronym ISIS to ISIL to (so called IS) — SCIS

        I don’t wish to proselytize but simply as a comparison
        http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-413730/Christian-groups-accuse-BBC-drama-inciting-anti-Christian-bias.html

        • JIMJFOX says

          Nov 2, 2016 at 2:56 pm

          IS/ISIL/ISIS implies the organisation constitutes a ‘State’- which it does not, IMO.
          Daesh is the Arabic insult for this so-called state, more fitting I feel. Anyway it is on
          it’s last legs whatever it calls itself.

        • billybob says

          Nov 2, 2016 at 7:31 pm

          @JIMJFOX

          “IS/ISIL/ISIS implies the organisation constitutes a ‘State’- which it does not, IMO”

          Their ambition is to form an Islamic state. As long as they hold even a square meter of territory, they have a claim to statehood. Above all, that is what they call themselves.

          Meanwhile, Daesh only has meaning to Arab speakers. It means nothing to most of us. Even if we are told it is an insult, we still can’t appreciate its magnitude. Worse than that, it becomes an obfuscation to be employed by those who say “it is not Islamic”. And as a concept, it certainly isn’t on its last legs. The concept will live on regardless of what happens to the current flag bearers.

        • gravenimage says

          Nov 2, 2016 at 8:05 pm

          Daesh is mostly just the acronym for ISIS in Arabic.

          Here’s a good article on the subject:

          https://www.freewordcentre.com/explore/daesh-isis-media-alice-guthrie

          As for the Islamic State being on its last legs, this has been declared any number of times.

          And whatever happens with the “Caliphate”, Islam itself is more of a threat to us than ever as more Muslims are allowed to flood into the West.

        • Mark Swan says

          Nov 2, 2016 at 10:32 pm

          billybob, I agree, it is just Islam running wild and free.

  5. JayT says

    Nov 2, 2016 at 11:27 am

    If Terri Shultz is admittedly not an expert then she should refrain from stating who is extreme and who is not.

    This would be an example of common sense from the time when mankind began to ponder concepts to year 2016.

  6. Jay Boo says

    Nov 2, 2016 at 11:32 am

    If “right wing extremists” were as well organized and dangerous as the Muslim ‘Vichy’ government politicians claim, they would not dare put on their farce show trial based on trumped up PC charges for fear of rightly being hoisted up on their own petards.

    • Charli Main says

      Nov 2, 2016 at 12:11 pm

      Two people in London have just been sentenced to 8 months in prison for inciting racial and religious hatred. Their crime was throwing bacon at a mosque as they walked past.

      Enforcers from the Muslim Gestapo AKA British police, claim to have found open bacon packets on the men, when they were later apprehended.

      Rumour has it, that Saqiq Khan will be awarding the said officers with medals of merit for services to Islam.

      • gravenimage says

        Nov 2, 2016 at 8:06 pm

        These poor people. More suicidal madness from the West.

        • Mark Swan says

          Nov 2, 2016 at 11:02 pm

          Unbelievably goofy 8 months for littering.

        • Charli Main says

          Nov 3, 2016 at 5:30 am

          Yes, indeed GI.

          In insane Britain, its OK for imams to preach racial and religious hatred against the people whose country they have invaded. Any protests against these invaders, preaching your extermination in their mosques will be met with imprisonment.

          I would love to bring back the ancient British tradition of putting miscreants in stocks and throwing garbage at them.

          I would put all these imams in stocks and have pig offal thrown in their faces all day long.

        • gravenimage says

          Nov 3, 2016 at 4:22 pm

          Yes, Charli–“hate crime” designations are *always* selective–in this case, even quoting the stalwart British hero Churchill is “hate speech”, but Muslim clerics calling for British blood to run in the streets is not.

  7. David says

    Nov 2, 2016 at 11:33 am

    I see absolutely nothing wrong with spreading the truth concerning “the hideous problems associated with the mass importation of muslums from backward forth world countries.”
    I have lived in the same “College Town” in the Pacific northwest since the 1970’s. Back then I managed a medium sized grocery store.
    We had a wealthy young man from Saudi Arabia as a very regular beer and wine customer. He owned several brand new Luxury cars. And at least twice a week would show up with two of three young whores in the car, to buy vast amounts of alcoholic beverages.
    Then, one week, he showed up SOBER and all ALONE!
    I’m not normally the inquisitive type but, this was so very exceptional that, I just had to ask him what was up?
    He told me that he was a muslim. From a very “Traditional Family”. And that word has somehow gotten back to his family that he was acting far too “Western ” here at school. So he had been summoned, by the head of his family, to return home and explain himself, lest the funding for his Education be with held.
    He said that, to purify himself, (to be a good muslim) he had to quit the boze and the whores for 8 days! Then present himself to his family as “pure”.
    Well, I guess it worked !
    We didn’t see him for about three weeks, then, one night, he again appeared at our store with an even more expensive car! Again packed with several young and pretty whores.
    I asked him how it was, back home?
    “Oh! Just fine. All are convinced that I’m still a “Good Muslim”.
    And so, the saga continued.
    Two months later he was dead of a drug overdose. And there was a huge article in the paper about the tragic death of Prince Abdullah, of the Saudi Royal Family!
    Yes. It starts small. But never ends well.

    • gravenimage says

      Nov 2, 2016 at 8:16 pm

      That story does not surprise me, David.

      But while this seems like a lax Muslim or even an “apostate”, I wonder what would have happened if you asked him about Jews, or women’s rights, or Infidels being equal to Mohammedans? I be you would have found that he *really was* more of a “good Muslim” than he may have superficially seemed.

    • Brit says

      Nov 4, 2016 at 12:27 pm

      Please don’t call girls/women “whores”. Odd that you treated the main villain of your story with more respect than his possible victims. Are you a not so secret dhimmi?

  8. Angemon says

    Nov 2, 2016 at 11:37 am

    Instead, Wilders let his legal representatives repeat the views that caused the charges to be brought against him: that the country has a “mega Moroccan problem” and that too many Moroccans get welfare benefits and commit crimes. Wilders believes that he has said “nothing wrong” as he is just vocalizing the views of his constituents

    Well, Miss Schultz, what Mr. Wilders said is either true or false. If ethnic Moroccans are overrepresented in crime statistics and as welfare takers, then what Mr. Geerts is saying is right and the accusation is nothing but a waste of time and taxpayers money. If he is wrong, then the prosecution needs to prove that he willingly stated a falsehood (i.e., that he had no reason to think that what he’s saying was not the truth) with the intent to denigrate ethnic Moroccans.

    And the thing is, Mr. Wilders is right: they *are* overrepresented in crime statistics and on welfare takers:

    http://focus-migration.hwwi.de/The-Netherlands.2644.0.html?L=1

    Of the four largest non-Western immigrant groups, the Turks and Moroccans are the most disadvantaged: they exhibit low labour market participation, high unemployment and welfare dependency rates and relatively poor school results, even among the second generation. In 2006, only 38.7% of Moroccans and 43.9% of Turks aged 15-64 had a job

    […]

    police statistics show that over 10% of Antillean and Moroccan boys aged 12-17 have been suspected of a crime, compared to only 2% of autochtonen and 5.2% of Turkish boys. Of men aged 18-24, 17.8% of Moroccans and 13.0% of Antilleans have been a suspect in a crime, compared to 3.8% of the autochtoon Dutch population.8 Though police statistics are problematic for several reasons, including racial profiling9 by the police, they are often referred to in debates surrounding the immigrant population.

    Moroccans are 5 times more likely to be involved in a crime than locals. And that’s *without* adjusting for the size of the population: Moroccans make about only 2% of the Dutch population.

    But while judges ponder the legality of Wilders’ views

    “Legality”? What he is saying is neither a falsehood nor a state secret – in which way could speaking the truth be illegal?

    their popularity grows, as evidenced by Wilders’ showing in the polls and the growth of populist, anti-immigrant parties across Europe, such as the far-right Alternative for Germany.

    This growth can only mean one of two things: either Dutch and Germans are inherently racist, bigoted people who are stupid enough to fall for what you present as not being true or what they say matches up with the reality and that resonates with the average people who, unlike politicians and academics in their ivory towers, have to suffer through it on a daily basis.

    But European Parliament lawmaker Cecile Kyenge doesn’t think remarks like Wilders’ can be explained away like that.

    She’s an MEP and a lawmaker – of course she’ll find a cause to rally against and “regulate”.

    “There has been a constant stream of concerning comments from politicians across Europe,” she said, “that fall short of the responsibilities they have as public figures and opinion leaders.

    Indeed there is, it’s just that we disagree on whom they are. I say that the people pretending there’s nothing wrong with muslim migration, insisting that islam is a religion of peace and pushing to prosecute people for expressing their opinions while calling them “racists”, “bigots” or even “nazis” are irresponsible, naive, blind idiots. You, on the other hand, seem to think that the people complaining about what they have to endure from the “refugees” on a daily basis are in the wrong.

    In recent months, politicians have disseminated false information and engaged in hate speech against minorities for political gain. Actions such as these are all the more damaging when they are propagated by politicians.”

    Indeed, and again we disagree on who those people are. There was a demonstrable conspiracy of silence over the events that happened in Cologne during New Year’s Eve and the labelling of the people who protested against it as “racists”, “bigots” or even “nazis”. Calling organizations like Pegida “anti-muslim” or AfD “right-wing” is hate speech against a minority for political gain.

    • P2 says

      Nov 2, 2016 at 12:55 pm

      Excellent analysis!

    • eduardo odraude says

      Nov 2, 2016 at 2:40 pm

      Don’t think it should be possible to prosecute someone even if what they say is false. The correct remedy for bad speech is not prosecution, but more speech.

      • eduardo odraude says

        Nov 2, 2016 at 2:42 pm

        That said, I think what Wilders said is correct and I support him. He’s no bigot. His sole concern is freedom and the way it gets squashed by the Islamic ethos, as the Muslim population grows.

        http://www.quotingislam.blogspot.com

    • gravenimage says

      Nov 2, 2016 at 8:17 pm

      Good post, Angemon.

  9. vladkoval says

    Nov 2, 2016 at 12:37 pm

    Yes, the West deserves what it gets.
    I mean if everyone knew the reality of muzlems’ countries – their laws, which shape the mentality of population – they would never let a muzlim enter their countries.

    • gravenimage says

      Nov 2, 2016 at 8:20 pm

      You may hate Westerners, but other parts of Dar-al-Harb such as Russia and the East exhibit a lot of dhimmitude themselves. Do you deserve Jihad terror, as well?

      Personally, I don’t think *any* Infidels deserve this, and am going to keep on fighting. I know Geert Wilders and Robert Spencer are not giving up.

      • vladkoval says

        Nov 3, 2016 at 5:25 am

        I don’t hate Westerners. I just feel that each article on JW tells about more and more defeat. Where are the victories? And that drives me into desperation.

      • vladkoval says

        Nov 3, 2016 at 5:29 am

        Moreover, When I say “West” – that means my country too. In my country I tell much about the danger of islam, many are aware it, but still not enough.

        • gravenimage says

          Nov 3, 2016 at 4:26 pm

          Yes–this is a problem *everywhere*, vladkoval. There *are* a few victories, but–I agree–as many or more setbacks.

          But we cannot give up–and we do have brave people like Robert Spencer and Geert Wilders setting a courageous example. They need our support, and serve as an inspiration!

  10. linnte says

    Nov 2, 2016 at 12:45 pm

    Let’s hope Mr. Spencer is correct and this discrimination case against Wilders helps more people become aware of the loss of their right to free speech. God bless Geert!

    • dsinc says

      Nov 3, 2016 at 2:58 am

      Yes.

    • gravenimage says

      Nov 3, 2016 at 4:28 pm

      Thumbs up!

  11. Johan elzinga says

    Nov 2, 2016 at 1:11 pm

    As a Dutch citizen, I’m highly concerned about all this nonsense. I strongly support Wilders in almost all his views on the dangers that immigration and islam in particular poses on our society, and the way that Europe is taking away the souvereign rights and our democratic rights. However, a great leader he is not and his party is not able to rule our country even when forced to. This is exactly what will happen when more voters get frustrated and Wilders will win an absolute majority. That is not unthinkable because Wilders has already 30% in he polls. Chaos will be inevitable when this happens. Any alternative is ruled out because the established parties are completely deaf for his complaints and blind for the facts that he keeps bringing up, and so are all the media here. I’m afraid we are a bunch of idiots, as a people.

    • eduardo odraude says

      Nov 2, 2016 at 2:48 pm

      How do you know he and his party will not be able to rule if they get a majority?

      I don’t think the Dutch are a bunch of idiots. You have a brilliant culture with a past in many ways illustrious. You had one of the most tolerant cultures in the world, indeed of all time. That is something not to be ashamed of.

      Some Dutch are idiots, but so what?

    • dumbledoresarmy says

      Nov 2, 2016 at 6:25 pm

      What else have you got?

      Right now, Wilders has two major things going for him: he’s brave, incandescently so, and he tells the truth that needs to be told.

      ever heard the saying “the perfect is the enemy of the good”?

      Aim to get Wilders and his party into power, for one reason alone: to put an end to Muslim immigration and to bring down the hammer on the mohammedan colonists.

      Everything else, right now, is moot.

      This is about the *survival* of the Netherlands. Is anyone else stepping up to the plate, re resistance to the Islamisation of the Netherlands?

      Take what you’ve got. It’s a whole lot more, and a whole lot better, than what anyone else in the West has got, right at the moment.

      And you might be surprised.

      I think Wilders will ‘grow into his job’ as he goes.

      His job? To help galvanise Dutch resistance to Jihad.

      • linnte says

        Nov 2, 2016 at 6:29 pm

        Exactly so General! Prayers for Wilders, for his freedom and for his life! In Jesus name!

      • gravenimage says

        Nov 2, 2016 at 8:23 pm

        Agree, DDA and Linnte. And hang in there, Johan–Geert Wilders and his party are the best thing going for the survival of the Netherlands at this point.

    • Michael says

      Nov 2, 2016 at 10:35 pm

      At some point in the future we in the West may have the luxury of free debate about minor flaws of our political leaders. But now we need plain-speaking fighters to organize a plan to avoid having our heads chopped off.

  12. John Hawk says

    Nov 2, 2016 at 1:16 pm

    This woman is a hack and a propagandist. Once upon a time, any self-respecting editor would have spiked this story and sent it out with the trash.

  13. Mark A says

    Nov 2, 2016 at 1:16 pm

    Robert, thanks for keeping us up to date on the Geert Wilders trial..

    Would it be possible for JW to set up a Geert Wilders legal defense fund to which interested JW readers could contribute? Is there already a Geert Wilders defense fund?

    Please pass along my compliments to Geert Wilders. I’m sure the stress of the trial is taking a toll but, if it’s any consolation to Geert Wilders, there are many of us who support him and who think what he’s doing matters.

    • billybob says

      Nov 2, 2016 at 7:39 pm

      I was thinking at least the electronic equivalent of a card signed by all of us here at Jihad Watch wishing him all success.

      • linnte says

        Nov 2, 2016 at 10:00 pm

        That would be AWESOME!

  14. Red Bee says

    Nov 2, 2016 at 1:19 pm

    Wilders is NOT accused of “hate speech” for saying that the massive influx of immigrants from Morocco (from which most of the Muslim migrants in the Netherlands come) has to be stopped.

    Being a Dutchman myself I follow this case very closely. The complaints against Geert Wilders are the result of a speech. Wilders asked the audience to answer the question “Do you want more or less Maroccans in the Netherlands?” The crowd chanted “less, less, less…” of course and Wilders responded to that with “Well, then we are going to organize that.”

    He was not referring to immigrants but to a segment of the Dutch population (people with Maroccan ancesters). Why he did that is unclear to me, but then I am not a politician. In my opinion the first trial against Geert Wilders was a political trial and an absolute discrace. This time however things are different. What if one replaces “Maroccans” with “Jews”?

    • Charli Main says

      Nov 2, 2016 at 1:58 pm

      ” What if one replaces “Maroccans” with “Jews”?

      If Wilders did that, he would become the darling of the Dutch MSM and political elites.

      He would, probably, also get nominated for the Nobel Peace prize like that mindless moron Malala Yousafzai.

    • linnte says

      Nov 2, 2016 at 5:57 pm

      Red, there is a huge difference between Jews and Muslims: Qur’an and Torah. Geert is not talking about their race, he is talking about their ideology. Jews have moved past the age of stoning women for adultry, past the age of all old Torah unspeakable traditions. Qur’an, or MOROCCAN ideology still holds fast to those despicable traditions and teachings: female genital mutilation, stoning, and all Shari’a commands.

      The question you need to ask YOURSELF is, do you want the Islamic population to grow so large that Shari’a WILL become the law of the land? Because that is the bottom line. The Dutch who cannot see the inevitable outcome of letting in more Moroccans(Muslims), are committing cultural suicide. It doesn’t matter what COLOR they are, it matters where their mindset is.

      • gravenimage says

        Nov 2, 2016 at 8:24 pm

        Good post.

  15. Westman says

    Nov 2, 2016 at 1:49 pm

    Europe has never risen completely out of the Feudal System. The EU politicians see their rise to power as some mandate of inclusion into the rare air of aristocracy and a God-given right to rule. Britain, finally making its Brexit, even has a “House of Lords” and some arrogant men to fill it; their hereditary rights only bring modified, but not eliminated, in 1999.

    The Netherlands government is a Constitutional Monarchy in a population of only 17 million. Mark Rutte, after jettisoning Rita Verdonk, an advocate of strong immigrant vetting and integration policies, from his VDD party, was elected Prime Minister. Losing Verdonk sent the Netherlands leadership into an unopposed open-door immigration policy. Rutte has a chummy connection to Unilever, his former employer, and likely sees immigrants as new laborers, to supplant the labor shortage due to low birth rates.

    Enter Geert Wilders who organizes a party that wants controlled immigration, the preservation of Dutch culture, and an analysis of the problems associated with immigrants. He indentifies that the problems are mainly associated with Islamic ideology and that immigrants of a certain region, Morocco, bring the most crime and anti-Dutch sentiments.

    The ruling elite do not dispute the documented facts that Moroccan immigrants cause a disproportional amount of crime. Rather, they prosecute Mr. Wilders for indicating that it would be better for the Netherlands to import less Moroccans – the only correct logical conclusion.

    This kind of logical stupidity could only be sustained in a relatively small nation that has not fully excised itself from the notion that royalty and aristocracy are entitled to special privileges. Mr. Wilders, in Rutte’s mind, is just another Rita Verdonk, who the court will remove so his destruction of the Dutch Culture can continue for the benefit of the new aristocracy, the business class. So it’s off with Wilder’s head.

    Rutte isn’t aware that he’s in a hole – he is still digging his own political grave while dreaming about life as a concert pianist. You can’t fool all the people, all of the time.

  16. davej says

    Nov 2, 2016 at 2:45 pm

    I have watched Mr Wilder’s talk about the dangers posed by unlimited Muslim immigration and he strikes me as reserved, sane and articulate. However in this case I think he should have identified the problem by religious belief rather than nation of origin, even if this amounts to the same thing in practice. To do otherwise just gives those eager to cry racism further ammunition.

    To characterize Robert Spencer’s opposition to Islam as “extreme” is an attempt to discredit him. If one holds that Islamic actions and goals are reprehensible by simply listing the many atrocities they commit and quoting the instructions contained within the Koran, one can be said to be anti-Islam. But the extremism originates in the practices and instructions, not in the opposition to them.

    Whenever there is any mention of this trial in the American media it always seems to be portrayed as obvious hate speech that merely needs to be confirmed and punished. This is the problem with adopting the Islamic concept of blasphemy – what is truth no longer matters, only that someone prefers not to hear it and is willing and increasingly able to prosecute you for saying it. That is the end of free speech and the beginning of a dictatorship.

    • gravenimage says

      Nov 2, 2016 at 8:26 pm

      Good post, Dave.

  17. eduardo odraude says

    Nov 2, 2016 at 2:53 pm

    Teri Schultz, I don’t suppose she would have the courage to learn from it, but here’s a site she should examine — with links to a university database and to the earliest Muslim biography of Muhammad:
    http://www.quotingislam.blogspot.com

  18. Sam says

    Nov 2, 2016 at 5:50 pm

    I sometimes think these European and American liberals will fight for Islam regardless what facts are as they are brain-washed to the idea that all cultures and religions are the same. If an individual wants to commit suicide he/she will do it eventually. I see western civilization in the same category, we will commit suicide against Islam no matter what.

    This liberal ideology is really sick and does not allow its proponents common sense to be able to look at things with even a little objectivity.

    Geert Wilders is telling the truth and being sued for hate speech, This is nothing but national suicide by the Dutch.

    Islam is winning again!

  19. abad says

    Nov 2, 2016 at 7:39 pm

    WHAT are Moroccons doing in the Netherlands to begin with anyways??

    • Allan Mandrowski says

      Nov 3, 2016 at 7:40 pm

      They were initially brought in as “guest-workers”, in the 70s and 80s. Well, the guests never went back and now Holland has a Moroccan problem, because as always with muslims, they don’t integrate / assimilate.

  20. gravenimage says

    Nov 2, 2016 at 7:43 pm

    As Geert Wilders again goes on trial for “hate speech,” European media campaigns furiously against him
    ……………………………..

    *Appalling*. There is nothing violent in pointing out the violence of others–in this case, those who act on the tenets of Islam.

    Here is my tribute to the brave Geert Wilders in my “Heroes Against JIhad” series:

    http://s478.photobucket.com/user/gravenimageartist/media/JWHGW.jpg.html?sort=3&o=8

  21. Matthieu Baudin says

    Nov 3, 2016 at 12:16 am

    “… Wilders’ popularity isn’t growing because he is a charming fellow. It’s growing because he speaks the truths that the political and media elites are in a frenzy to obscure. And it’s only going to get worse for them: the Brexit vote and the Trump candidacy (whether he wins or loses) shows that their hegemony is beginning to be challenged. Those challenges will continue, and grow. They will before too long be decisively voted out and repudiated…”

    Wilders is indeed a charming fellow, the genuine article. He is the most fascinating of European political leaders, who has kept his Churchillian credentials intact despite years of ‘virtual’ house arrest. Central European political leaders by and large have respect for Geert Wilders and recognise him as an active champion for human rights and social reform, in stark contrast to the largely spineless and fashionable wishful thinkers who dominate Western European politics. With time it’s important for the new leadership
    of the Czech Republic, Slovakia, Poland, Hungary and other states to lend more formal recognition and attention to the efforts of Wilders and the handful of comparative individuals trying to survive and be heard in the wilderness of Western Europe.

  22. Marty says

    Nov 3, 2016 at 6:29 am

    When the Nazis occupied most of the current EU they wee a relatively
    small percentage of the population.
    However in ,say, 1943, the Dutch media were hardly resisting.
    They knew, rightly, that to criticise Nazism meant being closed
    down, probably journos killed.
    Compared with islam, Nazism was relatively liberal.
    Eg the position of women.
    Of course the cowardly media won’t defend the courageous Wilders.
    They know what happened to Charlie Hebdo & the publishers of the
    Satanic Verses.
    It was the cowardly Dutch who made Anne Frank hide in a loft.
    And then handed her over to the Nazis.
    The power of mohammedanism in Europe & the UK is shocking &
    muslim reproductive rates guarantee an islamic Europe & UK within
    50 years.
    Just what are most people doing to prevent it ?
    Nothing.
    Wilders has Churchillian vision & courage.

    • gravenimage says

      Nov 3, 2016 at 4:33 pm

      Marty, remember that the brave Miep Gies–the woman who hid Anne Frank and her family–was also Dutch. Please don’t give up on the Dutch people. Geert Wilders hasn’t.

  23. Lynne says

    Nov 3, 2016 at 11:23 am

    The Netherlands is very fortunate to have a rational man such as Geert. If all nations had such a dedicated, honourable man we would be able to keep democracy alive in our western countries.

  24. peter murphy says

    Nov 3, 2016 at 4:07 pm

    A warning to all the traitors in Europe . Merkle, Hollande, Junker and their ilk will be left reeling as the truth about their plans are laid bare for all to see.
    The Clinton mafia has been exposed and Hillery George Soros puppet is now in crisis as her corruption is exposed for all to see
    The plans to steal the election has been exposed, it is all over Utube how a Soros company that provided the voting machines inserted software in them so that the would give whatever result the needed.
    People in the CIA and the Fbi have come together and told her if she runs for President they will take her down one way or the other.
    All the crooks around her are running for cover as Trump has sworn he will drain the swamp when he gets elected.
    This Clinton woman is working on behalf of the Saudies and China and is hell bent on the destruction of America and its economy.
    Like the traitors in Europe she wants open borders and globalism. This will be a huge blow to the gangsters in the new world order and will also send the crooks in Europe into panic mode.
    With the head of the snake removed it will not be long till the rest of the traitors in Europe change their tune. There is no doubth Merkle and Hollande are bought and paid puppets for the new world order and needs to be removed and prosecuted for treason against the peoples of Europe

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