“The most important turning point is getting to know people who are Muslim. They’re people, they have a way of life, they have a way of life that is valid and really very beautiful.”
Yes, many are lovely people. The problem with events such as this one, however, is that it aids and abets ongoing efforts to stigmatize all honest discussion of how jihadis use the texts and teachings of Islam to justify violence and supremacism as victimization of Muslims, and to silence it on that basis. Take, for example, “Matt Korn, organizer of the Support Our Muslim Neighbors event,” who “said he was moved by the kindness and support Nueces Mosque imam Shaykh Mufti Mohamed-Umer Esmail displayed for the LGBT community of Austin following the Pulse nightclub shooting, so he moved quickly to organize a solidarity event in return.” That’s great, but Matt Korn would doubtless never dream of being so discourteous as to ask Shaykh Mufti Mohamed-Umer Esmail what could or should be done about the systematic violence against gays in Sharia states. Would Shaykh Mufti Mohamed-Umer Esmail’s counterparts in Saudi Arabia or Iran be so kind to the LGBT community? Why not?
“I stand with Islam!,” reads one sign that a smiling young lady is holding. But does Islam stand with her? She is probably not Muslim, her hair is uncovered — how would she fare in a state that implemented Islamic law?
“Nueces Mosque hosts Muslim solidarity demonstration,” by JT Lindsey, Daily Texan, November 21, 2016:
Austinites of many religions and ethnicities lined Nueces Street in West Campus on Friday, displaying messages of love and solidarity for the Muslim community.
More than 100 people attended, many carrying signs with messages of support such as “Strength and beauty in diversity,” “Our Muslim neighbors enrich our community” and “United Against Islamophobia.” Those in attendance wore green, the color of Islam, and shared encouraging words in an attempt to ease the anxiety of some local Muslims following Donald Trump’s election.
Matt Korn, organizer of the Support Our Muslim Neighbors event, said he was moved by the kindness and support Nueces Mosque imam Shaykh Mufti Mohamed-Umer Esmail displayed for the LGBT community of Austin following the Pulse nightclub shooting, so he moved quickly to organize a solidarity event in return.
“He wanted to show solidarity with the LGBTQ community,” Korn said. “After the election, we decided we wanted to show that solidarity and support back.”…
Kevin Butts, Middle Eastern studies graduate student and a convert to Islam, said face-to-face interactions such as Friday’s event can help educate those that still harbor hate or fear towards Muslims.
“The most important turning point is getting to know people who are Muslim,” Butts said. “They’re people, they have a way of life, they have a way of life that is valid and really very beautiful.”

Dexter L. Wilson says
Don’t you wish these idiots would actually read the Koran. It is not like they are reading it as the Old Testament. They treat it like we treat the New Testament and follow it to the best of their ability, which states to kill the unbelievers and to lie to unbelievers. Protecting such people is treason if you don’t read what they are supposed to do you are opening yourself up to the same travesties that occurred in Western Europe.
June says
Murder (honour killings, jihad), extortion (halal and jizyah)), pedophilia (child brides), prostitution, rape, infiltration of legal establishment and law enforcement, deception and lies concerning their real motives as to the extermination of all who oppose them.
If this sounds to you like organised crime that’s because it is, it’s called the gang of Islam.
Most normal people recognise crime when they see it and mobilise against it.
For some reason people are not only NOT doing that with Islam, they are actively defending it and promoting it.
There is a collective madness in the west called political correctness.
Even when they are dying
from attacks by these animals they go down defending them and letting more into their country.
Islam has millions of members world wide who adhere to sharia.
They will take over, that’s their objective.
View them for what they are, criminals, and don’t let them get a foot hold.
This is how you stop or deport them immediately.
Allegiance to Islam requires allegiance to sharia.
That contravenes all the laws of western countries.
Rob Porter says
June, very well said and right on the money, not least: “For some reason people are not only NOT doing that with Islam, they are actively defending it and promoting it. There is a collective madness in the west called political correctness.” The other side is willful ignorance, but we can bet that most of that stems from political correctness.
Anne Smith says
They are not mobilising against it because it is hiding under the disguise of a religion. Trump’s man said it correctly.
Mr John says
“For some reason people are not only NOT doing that with Islam, they are actively defending it and promoting it.”
They are just like Koran 8:65 says:
“And if there are among you one hundred [who are] steadfast, they will overcome a thousand of those who have disbelieved because THEY ARE A PEOPLE WHO DO NOT UNDERSTAND.”
Dexter L. Wilson says
Does it not sound like they have a death wish?
Panda says
No. It sounds like they are Austin liberals.
Rob Porter says
The ignorance and naivety of this Americans makes them a danger to themselves. They are reinforcing then notion of Muslim victimhood. After the Muslim mass murders at San Bernardino and Orlando were there Muslim outreaches to, in effect, have Muslims say sorry to non-Muslims for the savagery of their Muslim brethren?
Guest says
I am an Austinite, I read the Koran, and I think Islam is evil and should be forgotten for the good of the whole world and human evolution
particolor says
They remind me of the People that hope the Alligators will eat them Last !!
gravenimage says
Bravo, Guest!
Flo says
I wonder whether Americans realized that being kind to muslims is like giving these muslims an inch and then these muslims expect a mile from Americans
Michael Laudahn says
I wished they read *here* instead (who manages to read the koran), and keep reading, until they’ve got it. It can’t be too difficult even for idiots if it is served in small, digestable portions by a good chef, as is the case here.
old white guy says
there is no shortage of stupid in America.
A Harris USA says
Dexter, this punks have no clue to the facts!! They follow what the professors teach them in school, and that is twisted. They also are anti-Trump cry babies, who think they are being liberal. And anti-Trump!! They are the top of the stupid heap. The minute one of their kids is raped, or the women are molested, or their dog is killed, for being a dog. By then they may say,”What went wrong?” Stupid is stupid, that is just the facts. You have always found these idiots through out American history. Even during the Nazi threat there were those that said Hitler was not a problem!!
My question is, where is the support for the police officers shot and killed while sitting in their cars?? This batch of attention seeking losers, are just that, losers!
Gordon Perry says
One of their biggest lies is that they are a “Religion of Peace”.
Frank says
Absolutely true.
Musalmaanmasala says
Are these people for real? Do they know what this cult is all about and what it advocates? Are they just following blindly some fool who has told them that these muslims are “peaceful” and “mean no harm”.
These people are living in a fools paradise.
Have they read their so called “holy book” koran. Have they read about the marauder murderer rapist Mohammed whom these people will kill for if he is “blasphemed” against. BTW Blasphemy is only against God SO HOW COME MUSLIMS KILL for “blaspheming” Mohammed.
Can these people think or are they being led by the nose with taqqiya
Once these muslims get ascendency these idiots will see the error of their support but by then it will be too late.
Bill says
Useful idiots.
Christianblood says
Western societies and their governments are always supportive of islam, including murderous islamic jihadists who want them dead! You see Western governments such as the US government backing jihadists and giving them weaponry and training and funding. You see people in the Western world, including their NGO’s being extremely supportive to islamists giving them support in all areas and you even see churches of all denominations in the West including the Vatican and the Pope resettling huge amount of muslim refugees in the West while ignoring and denying the same assistance to the real victims of the global Islamic jihad such as the Christians and others. This is unbelievable! What is going on here? Why are Western societies and their governments are SO CONSISTENTLY eager to help islam and islamists, including islamic jihadists that so deeply hate them and want to kill them while they ignore the real victims of the global islamic jihadist hate and violence such as the Christians??? What the hell is going on??? Any answers? Read more on the link below:
http://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/261302/us-christian-groups-support-muslim-refugees-ignore-raymond-ibrahim
Angemon says
Christianblood posted:
“Western societies and their governments are always supportive of islam, including murderous islamic jihadists who want them dead!”
And you say this, presumably with a straight face and expecting to be taken seriously, on Jihad Watch.
“You see Western governments such as the US government backing jihadists and giving them weaponry and training and funding.”
You see Eastern governments doing the same. Why are you so fixated on Western governments?
“You see people in the Western world, including their NGO’s being extremely supportive to islamists giving them support in all areas”
Again, you see people doing the same in the Eastern world. Why are you so fixated on the West?
“and you even see churches of all denominations in the West including the Vatican and the Pope resettling huge amount of muslim refugees in the West while ignoring and denying the same assistance to the real victims of the global Islamic jihad such as the Christians and others.”
Take it up to the UN, who are responsible for running the “refugee” camps, where the OIC is the largest voting bloc.
“This is unbelievable! What is going on here?”
Did you hit your head and have amnesia? You dedicated scores, if not hundreds, of posts to tell us, Westerners, that we love islam. Why are you acting as if this is the first time you’re reading your propaganda papers?
“Why are Western societies and their governments are SO CONSISTENTLY eager to help islam and islamists,”
What were you warned about, and eventually punished for, regarding treating the West as a monolith?
gravenimage says
Christianblood wrote:
Western societies and their governments are always supportive of islam, including murderous islamic jihadists who want them dead!
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The whole point is that these dhimmi idiots are in denial about the threat of Islam. The implication that they know what a threat Muslims are and want Muslims to murder them is ridiculous.
Christianblood says
gravenimage
Today the UN accuses people of Myanmar of “ethnic cleansing” for defending their country from aggressive Bengali muslim invaders:
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-38091816
Angemon says
Christianblood posted:
“gravenimage
Today the UN accuses people of Myanmar of “ethnic cleansing” for defending their country from aggressive Bengali muslim invaders:”
Ethnic cleansing:
the expulsion, imprisonment, or killing of an ethnic minority by a dominant majority in order to achieve ethnic homogeneity
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/ethnic%20cleansing
If, like you say, Myanmar authorities are going around killing Bengalis, how does that not qualify as ethnic cleansing?
BTW, you rail against “Western propaganda” and you resort to the BBC? LOL!!! Stick to Trump-bashing RT next time…
old white guy says
As I have said, they are stupid. there can be no other valid reason for embracing an enemy who say they will kill you.
gravenimage says
When have I ever uncritically backed all the actions of the OIC-dominated UN?
carol says
Christianblood…
Raymond Ibrahim’s article once again reveals how under-represented Christians are in the refugee stats (while incompatible, unthreatened Sunnis are favored). I also noted Angemon’s reply where he tells you…”Take it up to the UN, who are responsible for running the “refugee” camps, where the OIC [Org.of Islamic Cooperation] is the largest voting bloc.”
Clearly money and power are influencing unscrupulous/weak/misguided leaders and opportunists but I’d like to add a more intuitive guess as to why these same are allowing Christians to be abandoned. Just take a look at their opponents e.g. eloquent, intelligent and dedicated individuals like Ayaan Hirsi Ali and Brigit Gabriel who’ve gone through the Islamic mill. Their undeniable up-close & personal, negative experience of Islam has resulted in unwavering conviction which we recognize and relate to on a gut level. It serves to confirm what the written word is trying to tell us and there’s little wriggle room left for liars, deniers, sneaks, and apologists.
If the public had additional firsthand accounts (especially from passionate Christian refugees) it would be far too damaging to the “party line”. I think this more than anything is why they are being left behind.
Dexter L. Wilson says
I just really wish these people that support the entry of Muslims would read the Koran about the parts saying the Muslims should kill the unbelievers, beat their wives, and lie to the unbeliever.
Allan says
So, Islam stands for cut throat theocracy, and arrogant humanist nitwits stand for Islam. What else do we we need to know about either?
Expat88 says
Those useful idiots will never learn. They will just keep endangering everyone by clouding over the real issues.
Instead they should educate themselves by actually studying about Islam.
Allan says
If those nitwits and fifth columnists will never learn, then it’s futile to prescribe education for them.
Richard Paulsen says
Poor misguided citizens.
Guest says
I apologize on behalf of my fellow Austinites. They were poisoned by Obama’s lies
Cretius says
These people are seen as useful idiots by Muslims.
The ignorance of western leaders and mainstream media about the true nature of Islam is our greatest threat. The leaders of the western democracies and their leftist mainstream media have demonstrated an appalling ignorance of the bigoted teachings of Islam and it’s aggressive and bloody 1,400 year history of attacking and eradicating non-believers. Islam conquers through warfare. Islam makes no accommodation and it is against their belief system to assimilate.
Islam encourages deception and lies to further their worldwide aim of eradicating democracies, non-believers and other cultures. There can be no accommodation of Islam or Islamic law.
Gordon Perry says
Cretius, You say “The ignorance of western leaders and mainstream media about the true nature of Islam is our greatest threat”. I must agree, especially about it being “Our greatest threat”, but we have seen recently that the Mockingbird Mainstream Media is a “Bought and Paid For” Liberal Propeganda Machine. Furthermore, Obama is one of them, and has been promiting Islam throughout his entire presidency. Others may be Ignorant, but he is not.
Carolyne says
He is not ignorant of Islam because he is one of them. He was born a Muslim, raised a Muslim, went to school registered as a Muslim by his Muslim Indonesian stepfather. How much proof does one need?
Cretius says
Look then to the Muslim texts encouraging the use of deceit and lies to protect and to further the goals of Islam. Muslims can even claim to be Christians if it will further their goals. This is the core issue. Obama is a distraction. Western leaders and Leftist mainstream media have little or no understanding of the core issues or teachings of Islam. That makes them a danger to democracy, religions and cultures.
August West says
The Imam of this Mosque (named in the article) can be seen in this video comparing Sharia to the US Constitution. He starts around 27 minutes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcRJv-duraI
An analysis of his comments in contrast to that shown in the Reliance of the Traveler would be interesting.
gravenimage says
Thanks for that disgusting video, August. Note that this Imam implies that Shari’ah can be changed, just like the US Constitution–then goes on to affirm that it *cannot* be changed. He throws in some straw-man stuff about how one cannot take Shari’ah into one’s own hands–without noting that that is exactly the case if the state is not enforcing Shari’ah itself. He notes that these laws do not apply in a non-Muslim state, without mentioning that the main role of a Muslim in Dar-al-Harb is to turn that state into a Muslim state by any means necessary, including violent and stealth Jihad.
Ugly stuff, but exactly what one would expect. He is no doubt happy to have these Infidel useful idiots in Austin to further the cause of Islam.
August West says
I agree Graven. I think pretty much all of his comments are demostrably false. There are at least 100 idiots in Austin, however, that seem to lapping this garbage up. I guess the good news is that there are only 100 which is about how many muslims would show up for an anti Islamic State densonstration in Austin.
I guess nobody really believes this crap on either side…..
gravenimage says
Maybe considerably less than 100, if that photo is anything to go by.
Stephanie says
OT
coward mainstream media @ZDFheute, paid by my forced fees just blocked me
https://twitter.com/schnellmann_org/status/801511430692343808
More Ham Ed says
One-way “tolerance.”
Someone please set-up a lemonade stand that says FREE HAM SANDWICHES.
David says
☺
Thank you!
Hell, I’ll even donate a ham!
PRCS says
Funny!
Stan Lee says
Austin, Texas is the capitol of the state of Texas. It is also the most Democrat-ridden large city in a state that mostly voted for the Trump ticket. (Texas)
It is operating as the entire Democrat Party operates, which means creating an issue, even if it is the product of Democrat vengeance for its national loss, and that Democrat product is a monstrous lie about Donald Trump and the government he’s in the midst of appointing. Lying is nothing new to that party, nor its President for almost eight years. Herr Goebels of the last Nazi government wrote the propaganda script that the Democrats use, except though it is like something from Goebels, it was a book entitled “Rules for Radicals”, by S.Alinsky, before his death in Chicago, Ill.He was a notable Communist from that city. His gospel was closely followed by outgoing President Barack Obama,himself.
The Democrats have decided that they will not content themselves with a peaceful transfer of power as described in our U.S. Constitution. We are up to the task of dealing with their childishness, but you may hear some noise from it. Pay no attention, you too, have a job to do and good luck to you all.
JawsV says
Stupid Austin, TX.
Guest says
Please note not a all of us are that stupid, look up the Travis County Republican Party, the voice of reason among lunatics.
gravenimage says
Guest, I live in the San Francisco Bay Area, so I know just how you feel…
boakai ngombu says
” … .]they have a way of life, they have a way of life that is valid and really very beautiful.”
the graduate student (who perhaps felt compelled to revert so’s to graduate) may never learn that: beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
the allah god of islam (unknowable; the best of all deceivers) is at work among the academe
Berengaria says
I have to ask the Islamic Sympathizer, who wrote this article, WHAT PART OF ISLAMIC LIFE BEAUTIFUL?
Is beheading beautiful, or what about the Blood Rituals performed in the streets & in the Mosques, Are they Beautiful? It’s Barbaric & Savage to Civilized people, NO BEAUTY IN ISLAM, ONLY DEATH!
gravenimage says
Berengaria wrote:
I have to ask the Islamic Sympathizer, who wrote this article, WHAT PART OF ISLAMIC LIFE BEAUTIFUL?
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Keven Butts is not an Islamic sympathizer–he is an actual Muslim convert. But the rest of the dhimmi fools here no doubt agree–without actually knowing a damn thing about Islam and what it treaches.
Tjhawk says
The daughters and wives of their kafir enemies are often quite beautiful.
gravenimage says
That would be, “their kafir victims”.
Tjhawk says
Quite right
Wellington says
I have no doubt you could have found some lovely Nazis in 1930s Germany but it wouldn’t have made Nazism OK. I knew a few hard-core Marxists while in college who, on a daily basis, were very nice people, but it didn’t make Marxism all right.
Everyone needs to get it into their head that an ideology should be judged by what it says and NEVER by the fact that many followers of a particular ideology don’t fully implement its dictates or wrongly implement them. And Islam has as its clearly stated goal subjection of the entire earth, with non-Muslims being pure second-class citizens (if even this). This is what Islam states crystal-clear like in its texts and teachings and I for one loathe it for it. All who cherish liberty should too. The fools in the photo above I’m certain get nothing of this.
PRCS says
Islam is defined by its texts, not by the failure of “lovely” Muslims to comply.
Kay says
They don’t get it.
It’s like a patent prescription that someone learned for how not to be prejudiced: “They’re not all like that.”
But they miss the point of what the creed teaches.
Carolyne says
In their hearts, they most definitely are “All like that.” Otherwise they could not claim to be a Muslim.
Tony says
Americans standing with Muslims neighbors. What a joke. To you ignorant Americans go to the Middle East and let’s see if any Muslims stand up for you? I WILL TELL HOW MANY WILL . NONE , ZERO.
David says
It has gone way beyond ludicrous!
These folks are willing to stand in line just to KISS SOME MUSLIMS ASS!
It makes me want to VOMIT!
How can half the nation be in such a TRANCE?????
The muslum are here to murder us!
That’s all you need to know.
Beagle says
Muslim neighbors in small numbers are usually fine, ordinarily being in grievance jihad mode. Like Muhammad with few supporters, they enlist gullible non-Muslims to defend them (from nothing) until their numbers increase and they can ratchet up the violence. Then? Look out:
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/08/mosul-christian-our-muslim-neighbors-drove-us-out
gravenimage says
Austin, TX “Support Our Muslim Neighbors” event tries to “ease anxiety of local Muslims following Trump’s election”
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No one “comforted” us after Obama was elected. This is absurd enough in general, but particularly perverse when it comes to Muslims, who follow a creed that enjoins them to subjugate and murder us.
Even though Austin is in generally level-headed Texas, it is a pretty leftist enclave.
More:
“The most important turning point is getting to know people who are Muslim. They’re people, they have a way of life, they have a way of life that is valid and really very beautiful.”
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Could any of these nitwits–the non-Muslim ones, unlike Butts–tell us what is so “beautiful” about the Muslim way of life? Child marriage? Forced Hijab? “Honor Killings”? Waging violent Jihad against the “filthy Infidels”?
More:
Take, for example, “Matt Korn, organizer of the Support Our Muslim Neighbors event,” who “said he was moved by the kindness and support Nueces Mosque imam Shaykh Mufti Mohamed-Umer Esmail displayed for the LGBT community of Austin following the Pulse nightclub shooting, so he moved quickly to organize a solidarity event in return.” That’s great, but Matt Korn would doubtless never dream of being so discourteous as to ask Shaykh Mufti Mohamed-Umer Esmail what could or should be done about the systematic violence against gays in Sharia states. Would Shaykh Mufti Mohamed-Umer Esmail’s counterparts in Saudi Arabia or Iran be so kind to the LGBT community? Why not?
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All good questions–none of which will be asked, most likely.
Not incidentally, that Mosque is planning a huge expansion:
“Leaders of Nueces Mosque plan for reconstruction”
http://www.dailytexanonline.com/2016/10/11/leaders-of-nueces-mosque-plan-for-reconstruction
Note the comments, which are anything but positive. I believe the ones from “Arafat” may be from the frequent Jihad Watch poster. Kudos to him for raising these questions.
More:
“I stand with Islam!,” reads one sign that a smiling young lady is holding. But does Islam stand with her? She is probably not Muslim, her hair is uncovered — how would she fare in a state that implemented Islamic law?
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Not well. But she is too clueless to consider such matters.
More:
More than 100 people attended, many carrying signs with messages of support such as “Strength and beauty in diversity,” “Our Muslim neighbors enrich our community” and “United Against Islamophobia.” Those in attendance wore green, the color of Islam, and shared encouraging words in an attempt to ease the anxiety of some local Muslims following Donald Trump’s election.
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Here are some Muslims “enriching” the Austin area:
“Charge: man in terrorism case ‘could not wait to spill blood’”
http://kxan.com/2014/06/18/central-texas-men-face-terrorism-charges/
One of these Jihadists was a student at the University of Texas at Austin, just a block or two from this Mosque. He may well have attended this Mosque just a couple of years ago.
Surprise, surprise–Imam Mohammed-Umer Esmai knew the Jihadist, and was in touch with him. But, of course, he said that he never had any idea, blah blah blah…and then refused to condemn his actions, saying to do so would be “premature”.
No idea whether he got around to that condemnation later on. I would not count on it, though…
More:
Matt Korn, organizer of the Support Our Muslim Neighbors event, said he was moved by the kindness and support Nueces Mosque imam Shaykh Mufti Mohamed-Umer Esmail displayed for the LGBT community of Austin following the Pulse nightclub shooting, so he moved quickly to organize a solidarity event in return.
“He wanted to show solidarity with the LGBTQ community,” Korn said. “After the election, we decided we wanted to show that solidarity and support back.”…
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These Muslims refrained from actually murdering LGBTQ people–the least we can do is help them whitewash their creed…sarc/off
More:
Kevin Butts, Middle Eastern studies graduate student and a convert to Islam, said face-to-face interactions such as Friday’s event can help educate those that still harbor hate or fear towards Muslims.
“The most important turning point is getting to know people who are Muslim,” Butts said. “They’re people, they have a way of life, they have a way of life that is valid and really very beautiful.”
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I wonder what his Muslim name is? And how influential was he in convincing these dhimmi fools to shill for Islam?
Wellington says
Fine post, gravenimage (as usual.). Seems, per this example in Austin (there are of course sundry others all over the map), that not only can banality accompany evil often times, a la Hannah Arendt, but, shock of shocks, being a beautiful, lovely person can too.
People don’t think things through. You do, gravenimage. Most surely you do, as do so many others here at JW like Angemon, mortimer, Mirren, Champ, Westman, Daniel Triplett, Undaunted, jihad3tracker, DFD, Don McKellar, Kepha, Jay Boo, epistemology——ah, it’s a long list——but the West needs tons more of people to think things through. Anyone defending Islam hasn’t——-and if this isn’t a given, then nothing is a given. Take care, my West coast friend.
gravenimage says
Hi, Wellington. Thank you for your kind words.
I don’t believe you can be both a lovely person and evil–but you can certainly be a lovely person and cluelessly *enable* evil, including Islam. I’m sure many of these dhimmi tools are very nice people.
Road to hell, good intentions, etc.
More:
People don’t think things through. You do, gravenimage. Most surely you do, as do so many others here at JW like Angemon, mortimer, Mirren, Champ, Westman, Daniel Triplett, Undaunted, jihad3tracker, DFD, Don McKellar, Kepha, Jay Boo, epistemology——ah, it’s a long list——but the West needs tons more of people to think things through. Anyone defending Islam hasn’t——-and if this isn’t a given, then nothing is a given. Take care, my West coast friend.
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A great list–and I wish you and all of them a Happy Thanksgiving (and just a fine day to our friends abroad who may not celebrate).
This is a good day for gratitude to all that is still good in our civilized societies, and to all of those–at JW and elsewhere–willing to fight to preserve our values.
Adrian says
Wonderful post, Gravenimage, thank you… and most interesting the detailed reply by Arafat in the Daily Texan…
Praeceptor Maximus says
A great post as usual, gravenimage.
gravenimage says
Thank you, Adrian and PM!
And yes, Adrian, Arafat does great work countering apologia for Islam–especially at college newspapers–including in Austin–where this idiocy is rife.
DRHazard says
Americans and westerners in general so desperately want to believe that everybody is basically good.
And we’re good at forgetting, believing lies that make us feel better and assuming all religions are basically the same. They double down on this “ignorance is bliss” mindset even after one of their neighbors is arrested for planning a mall massacre.
gravenimage says
Grimly true, DRHazard.
Praeceptor Maximus says
DRHazard
If you are a religious person, then you make it your business to know which religion is false and which is not. And if you are a Christian and you know your Bible, then you would know that Islam is a false religion. A true Christian will never endorse Islam. It is like Churchill endorsing Hitler, Mein Kampf and the Nazi regime.
Voytek Gagalka says
“…they have a way of life that is valid and really very beautiful.”
All one needs to know about their “way of life” is to remember Qur’an sura 9:5 – “Kill the Mushrikun (idolatory unbelievers) wherever you find them…” How inspiring and “beautiful,” indeed!
Gene says
It was nice of the infidels to get in a nice line for the beheadings. Things go much easier.
I wonder how many of them have read the Qur’an? Before you “stand with Islam” shouldn’t you find out what it stands for? No, guess not, that might keep you out of the line.
Praeceptor Maximus says
Gene
They haven’t read the Bible either, otherwise they would know that the founder of Islam was a false prophet and an apostle of Satan.
somehistory says
“educate those that still harbor hate or fear towards Muslims.” The ones who need to be “educated’ are those in the photo who believe that islam is ok. The ones who need to be “educated’ are the moslims who “harbor hate” for everyone not moslim.
After doing a research paper on the ABT, Aryan Brotherhood of Texas, I would like to compare here, this organized criminal gang with the moslim organized criminal gang.
The ABT have a code: you can’t leave it, ever, without doing so dead. The same with islam.
One must commit acts of violence over time to enter the ABT. moslms show by violence that they are fully devoted to islam and its false god, satan the devil, in order to enter their “paradise.”
The ABT has a *creed* and a *constitution* and violence is a means of keeping members in line and making money.
islam has a *creed* and a *constitution* and violence is a means of keeping members in line and forcing others to become a part…and making money!
Just those few comparisons between the *ideology* of the ABT and the *ideology* of islam is enough to see that islam is an organized criminal gang and moslims devoted to it cannot do any different than their book dictates.
There are two big differences. No one is defending the ABT although it began as a means of defense in prison against those who belonged to other gangs.
Many defend islam even though it began in the desert by one who had the mindset of a demon, serial killer, and raper of children.
abad says
Those people defending Islam at that particular sit-in are in fact ignorant of Islam and most likely bought into the media’s interpretation of Islam.
John Barry says
Be careful, watch you backs!
Jim Conch says
They are from Austin, you don’t need to say any more than that. Austin is not the bedrock of intelligence.
Guest says
As a member of the Travis county Republican Party and an Austinite I resent that. But your not wrong my city is full of idiots
Sam says
F***** enablers of evil Islam!
Myxlplik says
They should set non-Muslim women volunteers out in a “Taharrush outreach mob”. Scheduled every Friday after prayers. That way Muslims will feel more at home.
PRCS says
And speaking of Texas,
One of CAIR’s “activists” gets over on…
After the interviewer bought into a couple of whoppers (like mental illness and the use of guns during jihad attacks), I imagine she knew she could roll him. And she did. Note the reference to a white guy –at 8:04–(as opposed to Muslims) and how wonderfully, tolerantly, accepting Islam is of homosexuality. Which just doesn’t comport with this article:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_in_Islam
Praeceptor Maximus says
“The most important turning point is getting to know people who are Muslim,” Butts said. “They’re people, they have a way of life, they have a way of life that is valid and really very beautiful.”
I wonder what part of Islam is valid and very beautiful! Child marriage? Stoning and flogging? Chopping limbs? Obviously these people know nothing about Islam, but they obviously know nothing about Christianity either. Perhaps if they would bother to read the Bible, they would realize that Islam is the embodiment of anti-Christ. Islam denies the divinity of Christ, his crucifixion and his resurrection. These imbecilic people are not at all religious and yet they take it upon themselves to protect a religion that has come directly from hell.
Debi Brand says
“Kevin Butts, Middle Eastern studies graduate student and a convert to Islam, said face-to-face interactions such as Friday’s event can help educate those that still harbor hate or fear towards Muslims.”
So too can study of the so-called “sacred texts” of Islam educate one on that that the Muslim holds dear and lives by, if indeed, they are Muslims.
http://islamexposed.blogspot.com/2016/11/concerned-about-trump-virginia.html
http://islamexposed.blogspot.com/2016/08/omar-siddiqui-mateen-obeyed-allah.html
http://islamexposed.blogspot.com/2016/01/fools-standing-in-defense-of-islam.html
Guest says
I am ashamed this happened in my hometown.
JawsV says
They remind me of the moonbats in “Independence Day” with their “Welcome Aliens” signs. Then the aliens slaughter them.
gravenimage says
No need to be ashamed, Guest–you are a patriotic Texan!
Praeceptor Maximus says
Another idiot who believes in his own moral superiority by not doing any business with supporters of Trump.
Mark Spahn (West Seneca, NY) says
This article is part of a subset of journalism in which the text of the report is contradicted by the photograph that illustrates the report: “More than 100 people attended”; then why does the photograph not show the whole crowd, but only 12 people? “Those in attendance wore green”; then why is only one shown wearing green?
“Williams said events such as Friday’s demonstration … represent a starting point for healing racial divides.” What racial divides? I thought this was a rally for Islam, which has nothing to do with race.
This event “can help educate those that still harbor hate or fear towards Muslims.” That “still” is an example of “editorializing by adverb”, intimating, without explicitly saying so, that eventually nobody will harbor hate or fear towards Muslims.
gravenimage says
Excellent analysis, Mark.
No Fear says
Mohammedans follow Mohammed because the Quran says Mohammed is an excellent example for man.
I urge everyone who has muslim friends to ask them which behaviours of Mohammed they will emulate.
Muslims think that Mohammed’s writings are faultless.
WHICH BEHAVIOURS OF MOHAMMED WILL MUSLIMS EMULATE?
ASK THEM!
Mohammed’s behaviour is described in the Hadith and his biographies. We read that he was a murderer, rapist encourager of rape, pedophile, liar, killer of jews…….
Will muslims emulate those behaviours?
FYI says
You are right we should ASK THEM!
Ask them to explain:-
1) Why does their prophet says its Ok to commit murder?Isn’t murder a sin against God?
“Slay the unbeliever wherever you find them”{koran 2:191}
This is such a clear violation of the Sixth commandment “thou shalt not kill”.
How come they don’t see this enormous elephant in the room??
So it seems that the “allah ” of the koran is in direct opposition to God’s Commandments.Weird,that.
2)Why does the “allah” of the koran hate the Jews?But…Moses and Elijah?… weren’t they….Jewish?So was Jesus Christ….Jewish.Very strange.
3)How can a prophet of God say that it’s OK to break God’s commandments?Isn’t that a bit odd??Why did he devote his life to breaking them all?Peculiar,that.
4)Why is there no mention of the Two chief commandments- found both in the Jewish Torah and the Christian new Testament-in the koran?Isn’t that weird?So the concept of a God of Love is quite absent from islam;the “allah” of the koran isn’t very nice
and he really hate the Jews and the Christians.You know what?I think the voice of the anti-Semitic,anti-Christian “allah” of the koran is……mahomet PRETENDING to be god.That might explain it.
The curtain falls and…look…it’s really an old man pretending to be the wizard of Oz.
PRCS says
And so many other questions which could–and should–be asked.
carol says
FYI…Wasn’t it Mohammed who said “Allah is unknowable and the greatest of deceivers”?
Not very love-promoting or appealing. So what does it leave you to snuggle up with?
VOILA! – “Come to poppa Mohammed and don’t try to understand the big guy (just do his inexplicable will as dictated to and by me!)”
Cunamarra says
I wonder how might these people react to someone who politely joined their group, handed out a few Korans and then invited them in reading along as it was recited out loud in a show of solidarity with the Muslims.
Might that illustrate the reality of the ideology they are joining themselves to and defending?
Might they perchance face guilt at the evil ideas they have been lead to champion?
Richard says
These lunatic likes their neighbors because they will cook them sheesh kebab, hummus, Tabuli, for few weeks and after that they will buy their houses to build a big Mosque .
duh swami says
The most important turning point is getting to know people who are Muslim. They’re people, they have a way of life, they have a way of life that is valid and really very beautiful.”
Hillary voters, mo doubt…
If you really believe that crap, whats stopping you from doing the shahda tango and signing up?
gravenimage says
Swami, the guy who said this was Kevin Butts. If you read the article, he *has* signed up–he’s a Muslim “revert”. Most of the rest of these idiots are just clueless Infidels, but he is actually Muslim.
Cretius says
It is obvious from the content that only a Muslim or useful idiot could have written it. Remember my caution about how Islamic texts encourage the use of deceit and lies to protect and to further the goals of Islam. The Iran nuclear agreement is a grand example.
gravenimage says
True, Cretius.
eur says
A very Christian attitude, what happens is that Muslims NEVER manifest themselves in favor of anyone, they do not defend anyone, they only submit. All are requirements but when they are majority … They do not accept the concept of citizenship, they only understand the concept of religious communities with differentiated laws … but if they can apply sharia to all. They understand coexistence as having to accept their totalitarian attitudes.
FYI says
These people might need to know the following:-
1)The koran sanctions their murder as “infidels”.
“Slay the unbelievers wherever you find them”{koran 2:191}
2)The voice of the islamic god “allah”{who is really the voice of the self-appointed
“prophet” mahomet}…is the voice of someone who despises Christians&Jews[koran 9:30}
3)muslims use a number of well known dissembling techniques to trick people
into thinking islam is the “religion of peace”{taqqiya,tawriya,muruna.kitman}.
Do these folk know the truth about the violent history of the ludicrously misnamed “religion of peace”?
4)The islamic version of god is the complete OPPOSITE of the Biblical one.
In fact the “allah” of the koran doesn’t even agree with the Commandments!!How about that?
5)So…
There is One true God alright but it’s not the islamic “allah”.
He has many prophets who speak in all languages*.
mahomet isn’t one of them**
*Not just ONE who speaks only in Arabic.That is ludicrous.By the way,most of God’s prophets are….. JEWISH;Moses,Elijah,..Jesus.So its kinda funny that the “allah” of the koran{who is really mahomet PRETENDING to be God}…..is violently anti-Semitic and anti-Christian.see koran 9:30
**And why?Because he actually encourages people to break God’s commandments e.g
“slay the unbeliever” which is a violation of the Sixth Commandment (thou shalt not kill.).Do muslims really think GOD is OK with murder?Do they not see that their great prophet is at odds with GOD Himself on this matter??No true prophet would EVER dispute God’s Laws.
Have you read the life of this prophet?What true prophet of God devotes his life to
breaking ALL of God’s commandments,denies Christ and hates the Jews( a people who were first given God’s laws and have an important role to play in salvation)??
Yet mahomet clearly despises the Jews,rejects Christ and has no time for God’s commandments which were revealed to Moses.
Aussie Infidel says
“Strength and beauty in diversity”? Spare us the political correctness and cultural relativism, please! Muslims hate diversity and do not tolerate other faiths. The Quran is full of hate speech, yet Muslims are quick to accuse others of intolerance.
“And whoever desires other than Islam as religion – never will it be accepted from him, and he, in the Hereafter, will be among the losers.” (Quran 3:85).
“And from those who say, “We are Christians” We took their covenant; but they forgot a portion of that of which they were reminded. So We caused among them animosity and hatred until the Day of Resurrection. And Allah is going to inform them about what they used to do.” (Quran 5:14).
“O ye who believe! Choose not your fathers nor your brethren for friends if they take pleasure in disbelief rather than faith. Whoso of you taketh them for friends, such are wrong-doers,” (Quran 9:23).
(Not much diversity here either. Not even family members are to be taken as friends, if they do not accept Islam).
From the Reliance of the Traveller, 08.1 “When a person who has reached puberty and is sane voluntarily apostatizes from Islam, he deserves to be killed.” This is another example of Muslim intollerance – and it’s the law.
“Those in attendance wore green, the color of Islam, and shared encouraging words in an attempt to ease the anxiety of some local Muslims following Donald Trump’s election. Are they anxious that Trump might just work out “what the hell is going on?” That he might discover their “problematic” agenda to wage jihad or ‘holy war’ against western infidels, and “destroy their miserable house from within?”
“Face-to-face interactions” will only confirm that not all Muslims are militants – or moderates. It will not educate unbelievers about Islam. That’s just a ruse by Muslims to dodge the real issue. Muslims are people, and people vary in their degree of piety and in many other ways. No two people are the same; but all Muslims follow the same Quran. The important turning point is NOT “getting to know people who are Muslim”, but GETTING TO KNOW THEIR IDEOLOGY.
Does it ever occur to apologists for Islam – that people who “still harbor hate or fear towards Muslims”, might do so for very good reasons? They need to educate themselves by reading the Quran. A good place to start would be Sura 9, the last chapter supposedly revealed to Muhammad. And they might be surprised at just how much hatred and violence ii contains.
Thought_Weaver says
“I stand with Islam”
MORONS.
Carmel says
” I stand for Islam ” says the girl sitting down !!!!!
PRCS says
Heh, heh.
Florida Jim says
That is what the Christians in Egypt and Iraq said until the beheadings began so few are now left they say nothing out of fear. Freedom is one mosque away never forget that history warns us.
Carolyne says
Austin is home to many gays. . I know this because my nephew is one of them. I wonder if these people understand that, although these particular Muslims are supporting LGBTs that Islam commands that they be thrown off “High places?” Do they understand their own “Religion>” Or is this just more taqqiya?
gravenimage says
Oh, from what I have seen this Imam knows his vile creed all too well–this is just more Taqiyya to lull the “filthy Infidels” into a false sense of security–and to support the huge expansion of this Mosque.
John A. Marre says
Stupid girl. Do you know what standing with Islam means? It means bowing down in subservience to a violent unnatural death cult.
don vito says
A devout moslem wipes out 49 people in Orlando, an imam is kind to someone in Austin
, during the aftermath. The kufr reacts to kindness of a devout moslem, by organizing a love-in for a devout moslem as a result of nationwide election. I should like to know what the kindness consisted of? This would better my understanding of the kufrs foolish feelings.
gravenimage says
I think all it really consisted of was *not* slaughtering gay people.
Violent Jihad and stealth Jihad work hand in hand–Muslims commit some atrocity, other Muslims say, “oh, that is not really Islam”, and Infidels fall all over themselves in applauding the second lot.
Rinse, repeat, ad nauseum…
solange silverman says
Strange, I do not see a single Muslim there. Apparently, they didn’t get the memo, and, apparently, these protesting people have absolutely NO clue what is going on in the rest of the world, especially in the world that also so very naively opened its hearts and doors to those who have only returned the favor with no-go zones, sharia law and patrols, high rates of rape and murder and by bleeding the welfare systems of their host countries dry, believing that they are owed a living, because they are Muslim and are, therefore, superior. I mean, after all, the koran says it is so.
Rich says
Ten Arabic Words: Bracken’s Challenge to National Security Professionals
If you are a politically-correct bliss-ninny with a coexist bumper sticker slapped on the back of your Subaru, and you don’t have the slightest clue what the following ten words mean, then this essay is not meant for you. You are excused.
dawah, dhimmi, hijra, jizya, kafir, shaheed, shariah, takfir, taqiyya, ummah
But if you are a national security professional, senior military officer or political leader involved in any aspect of the “Global War On Terror,” AKA “Countering Violent Extremism,” these are ten words that should already be a part of your working vocabulary. If you can’t readily discuss their meaning, significance, and relationships, then you are worse than a fool, you are disgrace to your office and a danger to your country.
http://gatesofvienna.net/2016/05/ten-arabic-words-brackens-challenge-to-national-security-professionals/
SweetOlBob says
Texas is noted for it’s size. It also has some of the largest imbecilic, liberal, areas in the Nation.
These morons, with their morally superior attitudes, are a good example of the kind of idiots who were proud of themselves for actually voting for a Negro when they helped elect the curse of Obama.
They are STUPID with a capital STU !
They don’t care about the harm they are doing to America as long as they can get their warm fuzzies and tell each other how good and tolerant they are.
I’d like to see them deported along with all the ragheads !
mileaway says
Texas needs to vet those wishing to move there!!
When California leaves the Union, these morons can move there or go back, whichever is fine.
I still have a hard time thinking of Texas and Shirley Jackson Lee!
gravenimage says
California is not going to leave the Union–any more than Texas did eight years ago.