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Catholic Charities helped Ohio State University jihadi resettle in U.S.

Nov 29, 2016 2:59 pm By Robert Spencer

The U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops has called for the U.S. to take in 100,000 more Syrian refugees. Meanwhile, the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops is, as Ann Corcoran of Refugee Resettlement Watch points out, “NOT advocating to save the persecuted Christians of Syria through this program.” The U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops received $79,590,512 in 2014 alone – that’s right, nearly 80 million dollars — from the federal government for the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops Migration Fund.

And now this corrupt, authoritarian fraternity has blood on its hands.

“Leave them; they are blind guides. And if a blind man leads a blind man, both will fall into a pit.” (Matthew 15:14)

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“Ohio State Suspect Had Tie to Dallas,” by Noelle Walker, NBCDFW.com, November 29, 2016 (thanks to Pamela Geller):

It was June 5, 2014 when a young teenager named Abul [sic] Razak Ali Artan arrived in Dallas with his mother and six siblings.

A little more than two years before he was the suspect in a violent knife attack on the Ohio State campus.

“We gave them aid and comfort and some shelter as part of the government resettlement program,” explained Catholic Charities C.E.O. Dave Woodyard.

The Somali immigrants arrived from Pakistan at D/FW International Airport via JFK International Airport.

Catholic Charities says someone from the organization likely picked the family up from the airport when they arrived.

According to Catholic Charities of Dallas records, the family was in temporary housing in Dallas for 23 days, leaving June 28, 2014.

“Then they emigrated. Left, and moved onto Columbus, Ohio,” Woodyard said. “And that’s when we closed our file.”…

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  1. Cretius says

    Nov 29, 2016 at 3:03 pm

    More useful idiots furthering the cause of Islam while ignoring persecuted Christians, Yazidis and Kurds. Disgusting!

    • nicu says

      Nov 29, 2016 at 3:13 pm

      what hypocrites ! The Pope wash feet of ” refugees ” while Christians suffer and die : CARITAS Germany pampers Muslims but leave Native Poor people alone !

      • Resist says

        Nov 29, 2016 at 3:16 pm

        That was unbearable to see. Really we are in a twisted End of Times kind of scenario

        • Granny mae says

          Nov 30, 2016 at 12:37 pm

          This Pope has spent his life in a third world country and has no understanding of the rest of the world. He thinks the US is rich and should take care of everyone. He doesn’t understand that this president has borrowed us into so much debt that we will never get out. This Pope does not have the understanding of the rest of the world, only his small area of the world and that was always so poor that to him the rest of the world is rich. It is time for the Catholic church to stay out of politics and especially Catholic charity’s. Learn to help people where they are to improve their lives forever instead of imposing them on communities that really can’t afford to take care of them. In their countries they are use to being taken care of by their government, what little bit they can get. Develope jobs for them in their own country and it will help them and their country. The charities foundations are so uninformed now days that I know of Priests in foreign countries where it gets extremely cold and they have now winter cloths , infact the clothing they are wearing is all they have and those cloths are frayed and thread bare. What is up with that? You need to take care of your own first and learn from them what i needed to improve the lives of the people where they are. Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day, teach a man to fish and he will eat for a lifetime. You don’t jut move them into different surroundings and take care of them there where everything they have ever known is no-where to be seen. Terrible lonelyness sets in along with depression and then you have huge problems and so do they. It has always been that way. When a person can move on their own accord things are different and even then sometimes it is hard if not impossible to assimilate to new and strange ways. I’ve been there and done that. Not good.

      • Christianblood says

        Nov 29, 2016 at 5:13 pm

        Catholic charities and most of their bishops are pro-jihadist traitors! Remember, the Catholic Pope visiting the Greek island of Lesbos and taking a large group of muslim refugees in his plane to Italy while totally ignoring the Christian refugee in the same refugee camp? See it below:

        https://www.jihadwatch.org/2016/04/christian-refugees-let-down-by-pope-he-promised-to-take-them-to-italy-but-then-took-only-muslims-instead

        • gravenimage says

          Nov 29, 2016 at 7:17 pm

          “Christianblood” wrote:

          Catholic charities and most of their bishops are pro-jihadist traitors!
          ………………….

          Utter claptrap. Catholic Charities has been helping refugees for decades, and really wants to believe that Muslims are more grateful immigrants who will become good citizens.

          This is naive and terribly dangerous–but it is *very* different from their being “pro-jihadist”, as the meretricious “Christianblood” is claiming.

        • Christianblood says

          Nov 29, 2016 at 8:52 pm

          gravenimage

          Why would the Catholic Pope intentionally ignore Christians in the refugee camp he visited in Greece but only kiss the feet of muslim refugees and take a group of muslims to Italy in his own plane???
          Are you telling me that it was a simple naivety on the side of the Pope? What are you trying to cover up? I believe the Pope was not just naive but he was very intentionally pro-muslim and that he deliberately ignored the Christians and that is the way his Catholic charities are behaving when it comes to islam and muslims. Graven, Just as the Western governments, NGO’s, clergies, academia and media are favoring muslims and islam, including muslim jihadists so are the Pope and his Vatican charities. There is something deeply rotten at the root of the Western societies which is causing all this suicidal stupidity and we need to find out what it is.

          https://www.jihadwatch.org/2016/04/christian-refugees-let-down-by-pope-he-promised-to-take-them-to-italy-but-then-took-only-muslims-instead

        • Angemon says

          Nov 30, 2016 at 8:25 pm

          Christianblood posted:

          “gravenimage

          Why would the Catholic Pope intentionally ignore Christians in the refugee camp he visited in Greece but only kiss the feet of muslim refugees and take a group of muslims to Italy in his own plane???”

          You can prove intention? Go ahead – I’m listening.

          “What are you trying to cover up?”

          Paranoid much?

          “I believe the Pope was not just naive but he was very intentionally pro-muslim and that he deliberately ignored the Christians”

          You can “believe” whatever you want – the world doesn’t change to fit your “believes”. For example, you believe Israel is allied with ISIS. Is Israel allied with ISIS? Well, there’s nothing that indicates it, and plenty that indicates otherwise. What do you have to show as evidence of that alleged alliance? Your accusation alone.

          “There is something deeply rotten at the root of the Western societies ”

          Nope. The roots of Western societies are strong, go deep and always bore wonderful fruits, like ending slavery or making all equal before the law – and the little mildew of political correctness and SJWs, caused probably by decades of Soviet infiltration and financing with the intent of dividing to conquer, is bound to eventually shrivel and die off. Not all of it, obviously, because you can’t keep an ideology, no matter how nasty, down forever, but enough to recess to the fringe where they belong. Can you say the same about *your* society? A society that produces someone as yourself, whose primary export on this site is hatred for everything Western, a hatred always based on hearsay, lies, half-truths and paranoid delusions. No, that’s a society that’s doomed to never prosper. And the less you prosper, the more you hate.

          Boy, you must be fuming with Brexit and Trump’s victory. How can you justify criticising a society when they do what you prescribe them? You can, but you keep doing it all the same. Because you have nothing to live for but hatred. How are you, on that regard, different of the mosleems you gleefully wish would destroy us?

        • gravenimage says

          Nov 29, 2016 at 9:08 pm

          “Christianblood’s” implication that Catholic Charities aids only Muslims is not only false, it is easily disproven. Why would he even make such a claim?

          Their helping Muslims settle here is *deeply* foolish, and suicidally dangerous–but “Christianblood’s” claim that they are “pro-Jihad” is just ridiculous.

        • Christianblood says

          Nov 30, 2016 at 8:09 am

          gravenimage

          Answer my questions above please!

        • Angemon says

          Nov 30, 2016 at 8:28 pm

          Christianblood posted:

          “Answer my questions above please!”

          Ironic that you are demanding such a thing, seeing how you often don’t respond to GI’s queries…

        • gravenimage says

          Nov 30, 2016 at 4:56 pm

          The idea that I am trying to “cover up” the suicidal Islamophilia of the current pontiff is just absurd. Anyone who has even a passing knowledge of my posting history knows I have been *very* critical of Pope Francis.

        • Christianblood says

          Dec 2, 2016 at 8:10 am

          Catholic “charities” want to bring 100.000 muslims to America each year:

          https://refugeeresettlementwatch.wordpress.com/2015/10/11/us-conference-of-catholic-bishops-want-100000-syrians-admitted-to-us-this-year/

          Muslims are murdering 100.000 Christians each in the islamic world:

          http://www.foxnews.com/world/2013/06/02/vatican-spokesman-claims-100000-christians-killed-annually-because-faith.html

    • Angemon says

      Nov 29, 2016 at 4:21 pm

      The UN, the official decider of who is a “refugee” and who isn’t, is deeply compromised.

      • Darryl Kerney says

        Nov 29, 2016 at 6:54 pm

        Understatement of at least the Decade.

      • Oliver says

        Nov 29, 2016 at 7:21 pm

        Angemon– the Useless Nations and their ” refugee” groups are a sham–look at their “Palestinian” refugee group.

        IN GAZA. BITCHING ABOUT HOW EVIL ISRAEL IS. BUT DOES NOTHING FOR THE PALESTINIANS IN JORDAN ( TREATED AS SOMETHING LESS THAN HUMANS, ACCORDING TO WHAT I HAVE READ); IN SYRIA ( BEFORE AND DURING THE WAR); in other countries and even in Ababs homeland- the West Bank. Self perpetuating money wasting useless organizations.

        • Angemon says

          Nov 30, 2016 at 8:07 pm

          I can’t blame Arabs for treating the “Palestinians” as if they were the red-headed, bastard stepchild. They were in Jordan and attempted to overthrow the government. They were, as a consequence, kicked to Lebanon and what did they do? Started a civil war to overthrow the government.

        • Oliver says

          Dec 1, 2016 at 4:39 pm

          Angemon, I remember when the Palestinians tried to overthrow the Jordanian Government- –it was Sept. (-early 1970’s) (I was in the Army Reserve- and my unit was afraid of being activated) the Palestinians terror group was BLACK SEPTEMBER. They were going to kill the Jordanian king, his family etc.

          They were crushed.

          In Oct 1973, when Egypt, Syria etc attacked Israel (Yom Kippur War) ( I believe it was Moshe Dayan, OBM) who called the king of Jordan, and said (something to the effect) Jordan will have a Black October if it joins/attacks Israel, as we will destroy you.

          Jordan did not allow ANY of their citizens to fight for the Muslims- against Israel.

          Forward to the present–Jordanian member(s) of the Parliament are speaking OUT AGAINST BDS- SAYING IT HURTS THE MUSLIMS MORE THAN THE JEWS; anfd seeking to invest some $11 billion (US) dollars in Israeli government bonds and Israeli businesses. And cooperating with Israel on security; intelligence and other issues.

      • gravenimage says

        Nov 30, 2016 at 5:00 pm

        True, Angemon.

    • Nan Barr says

      Nov 29, 2016 at 4:53 pm

      They get a lot of money from the US Government to aid these people. THEY MAKE A PROFIT FO THE CHURCH.
      THE Lutherans and Episcopalians do as well.

      THEY do NOT get other groups from the M.E. THEY GET 99 % muslims.

      • dsinc says

        Nov 29, 2016 at 11:46 pm

        Yes, it’s a money making traitorous racket that Donald Trump must defund as soon as he takes office

        • Carolyne says

          Nov 30, 2016 at 4:23 pm

          Of course. It’s all about the money the government pays the Catholic Church. I do not believe that the US government should support any arm of the Catholic Church, or any church for that matter.

    • Berengaria says

      Nov 29, 2016 at 6:27 pm

      You are Right Cretius, Catholic Charities has been shilling for the Left & have become Useful Idiots, WITH OUR MONEY. If a Roman Catholic asked for help from these Marxist wags, he or she would be brushed aside, for Catholic Charities is a most UN-Catholic Scam.

      • gravenimage says

        Nov 29, 2016 at 7:23 pm

        This is not the case. When I worked for Catholic Charities, many of the people they helped were Catholics from Mexico and Central America.

        • Smarty says

          Nov 29, 2016 at 9:34 pm

          It IS true. They are getting billions from the office of refugee resettlement under HHS via grants and it needs to be shut down.

        • Peggy says

          Nov 29, 2016 at 11:59 pm

          Maybe it has all changed now. Muslims are the current flavour of the month as they say.
          Even if Catholic charities are helping others it doesn’t excuse them from helping Muslims, especially the Muslims who are invading.
          They should know better than to aid the enemy but then maybe they have to follow instructions from the Pope and we all know whose side he is on.

          About time bishops and charities rebelled against the Pope and then they will start to look good again.

        • gravenimage says

          Nov 30, 2016 at 5:03 pm

          Smarty wrote:

          It IS true.
          ……………………………

          Berengaria said, “If a Roman Catholic asked for help from these Marxist wags, he or she would be brushed aside”–I showed that this is not the case. How is this true?

          This does *not* mean that Catholic Charities should be enabling the Muslim invasion of the West–but the idea that they are rejecting aiding Catholics is simply false.

        • gravenimage says

          Nov 30, 2016 at 5:20 pm

          Peggy wrote:

          Maybe it has all changed now.
          …………………

          It hasn’t. Here is a recent story:

          “Catholic Charities Flooded with Young Illegal Latino Immigrants”

          http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2014/06/14/catholic-charities-flooded-with-young-illegal-latino-immigrants/

          Please note: I am *not* condoning Catholic Charities helping illegals gain entry to the US; just noting that these are mostly Catholic recipients. There are, of course, legal recipients, as well.

          It is quite possible to criticize an organization without making things up about them–it is, indeed, the best way to go about things.

      • Oliver says

        Nov 29, 2016 at 7:28 pm

        Berengaria—- A BIT off topic- re Catholic Charities.

        Back in the early 1970’s, my family had a large house in New York City, and were trying to sell it.

        Catholic Charities ( a divison of them) approached me. Would I (on behalf of my family- my father was quite ill, at the time) rent it to them -for five years; and made a fantastic offer ( good for us). They used it as a group home for abused children (a good thing- children got loving “parents”, guidance,etc).

        When I spoke to an official ( as to putting together a group-of my family and friends and buying other properties to use as group homes) I was told ( by -I was told that this person was the head of the entire NYC program- I don’t know now, nor did I know then, if true-) that they needed a much larger home, as they had to keep (i beleive the number was like 12 or more) children ” to make a decent profit”.

        When I asked how could a couple manage 12 children-if they were relatively close in age- his view was, (not a quote) something like, who cares. With 4 or 5 or 6- cannot make enough money.

        I, and my family and friends, decided not to deal with them, except on the one property.

        STRICTLY THE MONEY.

        Looks like the same here–refugees.

    • A Harris USA says

      Nov 30, 2016 at 4:27 pm

      This exactly why I keep posting, DO NOT give your time or money to church charities that help Muslim refugees!!!! We as Americans are always giving away money for one reason or another. I turn my giving to veterans groups, military families charities, and animal groups…DO NOT feed the beast that will kill you and your family!!! Support those who defend them, and those who can not help themselves!!

    • Les says

      Nov 30, 2016 at 6:32 pm

      The person directly and solely responsible for this scum Muslime from Somolia to come to America is none other then Hussein Obama!!! To indict Catholic charities and the Catholic Church for their humanitarian efforts is evil. Catholic charities had been helping refugees since the 1970s and they have no say what refugees they can and cannot take nor do they have any ability to vet these people.

      Thankfully we have a new president that hopefully will stop any more refugees from Muslim countries entering our country. The enemy of America is Hussein Obama, liberals and Muslims who are incompatible with civilized life, NOT Catholic Charities or the Pope!!!!!!

  2. Stephanie says

    Nov 29, 2016 at 3:13 pm

    VIDEO: ‘Sources to Fox: Ohio State University suspect came into U.S. as a Somali refugee.’ (ugliest word of the year)

    https://twitter.com/schnellmann_org/status/803690922332590080

  3. gravenimage says

    Nov 29, 2016 at 3:17 pm

    Catholic Charities helped Ohio State University jihadi resettle in U.S.
    …………………………

    Deeply disturbing, but not surprising. I worked for Catholic Charities briefly in San Francisco in the late 1980s, when they were mostly aiding deeply grateful South East Asians–Vietnamese, Cambodians, and Laotians.

    More:

    “Then they emigrated. Left, and moved onto Columbus, Ohio,” Woodyard said. “And that’s when we closed our file.”…
    …………………………

    That’s the problem, isn’t it? These well-meaning fools just help these ravening Jihadists gain entry, then they close the file–in most cases they never have to face just what it is that they have helped invade our vulnerable society…

  4. Jaladhi says

    Nov 29, 2016 at 3:33 pm

    Muslims don’t have even an iota of gratitude in them. They generally pay the helpers back by sending them out of this world.

  5. Mark A says

    Nov 29, 2016 at 3:34 pm

    I’m Catholic and I completely disagree with the immigration policies of the USCCB and Catholic Charities.

    These policies are bringing the jihad to us. We can practice charity without bringing in immigrants who want to kill us, convert us or rule over us.

    I doubt we would have similar problems if we sponsored persecuted Christians as refugees.

    • Manny says

      Nov 29, 2016 at 4:08 pm

      I agree. I don’t want Islamic immigration, and I’m Catholic too. However, they can’t be blamed for helping this family out. Catholic Charities help out everyone indiscriminantly. It’s up to the US government to set immigration policies.

      • Nan Barr says

        Nov 29, 2016 at 5:23 pm

        In the case of “refugees ” that is not the case. THEY MAKE a profit on each head they take in. LUTHERAN and EPISCOPALIANS do too.

        The charities get so much money to re-settle a family or a person. THE CHARITY gets as much in donations for household good, clothing and sometimes eve a car.

        THEY spend very little money they get for the refugees for the most part. Housing they get for a reduced price or even donated by a landlord for 3 months. They get the family welfare payments, food stamps ( EBT cards) and even scholarships to college for the family. They give FREE language classes taught by VOLUNTEERS .

        They attempt to find jobs for these people. A DAUGHTING TASK! Most have Hep A, Hep C and TB. Restaurant work and food handling is forbidden to them… and YET within months of leaving the Charities care…most are found in ethnic restaurants or meat processing plants. MANY even open tiny ethnic restaurants where the spread their lovely germs and virus’ all over the place.

        The agency also gets the newcomers on Medicaid . ALL FOR FREE!!

        If there is a senior over 66 , in the group they take them to the social security office where they get signed up for at least $400 a month benefits and Medicare… usually on a FIRST CLASS plan complete with medications ,dental and eye care.

        THEY get this HIGH CLASS plan for free. AMERICAN citizens get to pay a BUNDLE for such a plan. $250- 500 per month.

        The only big expenses for the charities are their employees and their offices. Charity owned vans and cars are also an expense. That is so their employees can tote the newcomers all around the town for doctor’s appointments ETC.

        The refugees sign a document to repay the agency usually OEM ( office of Emigration and Migration) for their air fare to the USA and /or a new city in the USA.

        IT IS ALL A RACKET for the re-settlement to make a PROFIT. The US Govt. gives them THOUSANDS per refugee. They take in money donations and other than cash donations from the public too.

        The State Dept. decided NOT to allow in other religions from the region. A mere 1% of Christians. OBAMA hates Christians , Kurds and Yazidis .

        • Damocles Junior says

          Nov 29, 2016 at 5:50 pm

          Because of all of this they will soon develop an attitude of entitlement that will inevitably change to an attitude of contempt and then hatred towards the (non-Muslim) society that has given them everything. The next step will be terror involvement.

          Compare this with the attitude of the Irish, The Italian and all the other immigrants that came to the USA, they were given nothing except a new chance at life. Many became outstanding Americans and most of the others became real Americans and they loved and helped their new country. (Yes Mr Obama, America is a nation of immigrants but not the ones you like to promote)

      • Peggy says

        Nov 29, 2016 at 7:20 pm

        Don’t let them off the hook so lightly. Did the government force them to take in only the Muslims? Could they not coordinate with their Bishops over in ME to help Christians reach US shores or even European shores?
        Let’s say Obama has banned Christians from Syria. How does that explain bishops in Italy not helping?
        This is a directive from the top and the Pope is the enemy.

        • Carolyne says

          Nov 30, 2016 at 4:30 pm

          Peggy, I truly believe the Pope is the enemy. I can see no reason actually for there even being a Pope, but then I’m an Atheist so I don’t really get a vote.

          But if I did get a vote, and if I were Catholic, I’d say this Pope is an agent of the devil.

        • Angemon says

          Dec 1, 2016 at 12:31 pm

          Peggy posted:

          “Don’t let them off the hook so lightly. Did the government force them to take in only the Muslims? Could they not coordinate with their Bishops over in ME to help Christians reach US shores or even European shores?”

          Isn’t there an organization tasked with handling refugees in the world? You know, the UN?

          “Let’s say Obama has banned Christians from Syria. How does that explain bishops in Italy not helping?
          This is a directive from the top and the Pope is the enemy.
          ”

          Got any evidence to back that? Or do you simply derive pleasure from making inflammatory, baseless assertions?

        • Peggy says

          Dec 1, 2016 at 8:39 pm

          Angemon said:

          “Let’s say Obama has banned Christians from Syria. How does that explain bishops in Italy not helping?
          This is a directive from the top and the Pope is the enemy.”

          Got any evidence to back that? Or do you simply derive pleasure from making inflammatory, baseless assertions?
          =============================
          Yes, the evidence is all around you. When you take statements the Pope has made and what is actually happening on the ground in Italy it’s plain to see.
          Do you disagree?
          You always seem to have comebacks for me but you don’t have your own point of view to back them up which doesn’t make it clear why you seem to disagree with those statements.
          If you don’t agree with what I say then by all means put your own take on it. You can’t constantly bag other people’s ideas or statements without explaining what you find unacceptable there.

        • Angemon says

          Dec 2, 2016 at 4:02 am

          Peggy posted:

          “Yes, the evidence is all around you. When you take statements the Pope has made and what is actually happening on the ground in Italy it’s plain to see.”

          No, it isn’t. You’re making an assertion about *motivation* and you are not giving anything to back it up. What you’re ascribing to malice is easily explainable by ignorance and stupidity, hence my scepticism about your inane statements.

          “Do you disagree?
          You always seem to have comebacks for me but you don’t have your own point of view to back them up which doesn’t make it clear why you seem to disagree with those statements.
          If you don’t agree with what I say then by all means put your own take on it. You can’t constantly bag other people’s ideas or statements without explaining what you find unacceptable there
          ”

          Why is it that when you’re placed on the spot you tend to try and deflect scrutiny by pointing at the person inquiring? I’m asking you to back what you said – asking me “what do you think” is *not* backing what you say, is it?

          Asking someone to *back* what they stated is NOT bagging their ideas or statements. Much to the contrary, it’s giving them a chance to strengthen then. The only context where me asking you to expand on what you say is “bagging” it is in the case of it being garbage that won’t hold to scrutiny.

      • Smarty says

        Nov 29, 2016 at 9:37 pm

        They are NOT charities. Please educate yourself regarding refugee resettlement. It is a billion dollar a year industry. Catholic “charities” are federal contractors. They get paid by the head.

      • Peggy says

        Nov 30, 2016 at 12:02 am

        I think that charities can help who they feel is in most need so therefore they can decide not to put any resources into Islam.

    • A Harris USA says

      Nov 30, 2016 at 4:35 pm

      Mark A, I was Roman Catholic for 60 years. I have joined the Orthodox Russian congregation. I find that they KNOW what Islamic terror is.. THEY do not support it.. The Orthodox faiths are much older and no Vatican II crap, and believe me, I can not follow a “pope” who wants to shove Islam down our throats, yet turns his nose up at other Christian sects… NOT to mention rejection of Christian sects who are allied to the Roman Church!! What the hell ?? You except Islamic murdering pigs, and turn your nose up at Lutherans, Baptist, and others??? NO not for me!!

      • gravenimage says

        Nov 30, 2016 at 5:25 pm

        A Harris wrote:

        Mark A, I was Roman Catholic for 60 years. I have joined the Orthodox Russian congregation. I find that they KNOW what Islamic terror is.. THEY do not support it..
        ……………………..

        A Harris, I’m afraid the idea that the Russian Orthodox Church fully understands the threat of Islam is not the case–I wish it were.

        “West should learn from Russia to accept Muslim refugees – Patriarch Kirill”

        http://www.interfax-religion.com/?act=news&div=12354

        Lots of clueless dhimmitude to go around, I’m sad to say.

  6. SavEcig says

    Nov 29, 2016 at 3:40 pm

    6 bucks and my right nut says this radical islamist was on welfare and getting a taxpayer funded education.

    Seriously, I’d like to know how this “family” left the Somali Civil War in 2007 and fled to Pakistan? Why Pakistan? Whom were they fleeing? The Ethopians (who were winning in 2007) or the Islamists (who were not winning in 2007)?
    What did they do in Pakistan for seven years?

    The story here is not that he was born in Somalia. The story is he spent his formative years in Jihadi Training Central.

    • Carolyne says

      Nov 30, 2016 at 4:32 pm

      I’ll take the six bucks, SaveEcig, but you can keep that particular part of your anatomy. But your questions make sense and we all know the answers.

  7. Walter Sieruk says

    Nov 29, 2016 at 4:11 pm

    When will those church people wake up ? As those Church people who feel that they are showing the “Christian spirit” by giving kind but foolish ” help” to those who in “wolfs” inside. Be they Muslim refugees [secret jihadists ] or street hooligans. For Jesus Himself told ans warned His disciples just before going into a some kind of town that they need to “be as wise as serpents and harmless as doves.” Mathew 10:16. To explain this from a story that was well known even before Jesus was born is the fable of Aesop which is entitled THE VIPER AND THE CRANE The fable is “Along time ago there was a wolf with a bone from his last kill stuck in his throat and as try and he might the wolf could not get that bone out. So he went to a bird called crane and asked and then begged the crane to remove the bone from his throat . The crane said “If stick by head into you month to remove the bone you will bite off my head.’ Wolf promised that he would not so the crane helped the wolf by removing the bone and then wolf without so much as a ‘Thank you’ for saving his life walked off. At that ungratefulness the crane was actually lucky . For the point is “To kindly help out and evil man a person should be very glad not to receive harm for his good deed of kindness” As in that is thanks enough for an evil man only does evil. That crane got off better then those church people.

  8. Bill says

    Nov 29, 2016 at 4:15 pm

    The Pope is too busy mourning the death of fellow Communist Fidel Castro to pay any attention to the latest fruits of his enabling the Islamic invasion of the USA and Europe.

  9. Tommy says

    Nov 29, 2016 at 4:17 pm

    HEY LIBERAL CATHOLICS! GO TO F*CKIN” HELL.

    From me, a conservative catholic.

    • Tommy says

      Nov 29, 2016 at 4:20 pm

      It was ‘social justice’ that crucified Jesus

      • Damocles Junior says

        Nov 29, 2016 at 4:42 pm

        Social Justice or Mob Rule as in “Free Barrabas” and then the governor washed his hands of the whole affair. Seems like not much has changed over the past 2000 years.

    • Islam the religion of killers says

      Nov 29, 2016 at 7:13 pm

      It would be very interesting to survey the catholic people to see if they agree with what their ministers are doing to their freedom

      • A Harris USA says

        Nov 30, 2016 at 4:40 pm

        Religion of Killers, Here is my vote!! I left the Roman Church, and joined an Orthodox Church, and left the left leaners to rot in hell… He who assists a murderer, is a murderer!!

    • Peggy says

      Nov 29, 2016 at 7:23 pm

      They probably will as anyone else who gives aid to this evil.
      There is a chance this will severely affect the Catholic church. Wouldn’t be surprised if we saw a division there and a new Catholic church emerging.

  10. Walter Sieruk says

    Nov 29, 2016 at 4:34 pm

    Another fable of Aesop that might help explain about the deadly jihad-minded Muslim and those who as had church people who had tried to help him out. This one is entitled THE SCORPION AND THE FROG . “Once long age there was a scorpion and it ran out of food on its side of the river .Nevertheless there was much food for it on the other side . The scorpion could not swim so is asked the frog to take him across the river. The frog said ‘No if you ride on my back you will sting me and I will die’ The scorpion answered ‘Don’t be silly for if I sting you in the back on the river I will die by drowning ,so you are safe. ‘ That made sense to the frog so the frog show the scorpion kindness to the scorpion and took him on his back to take him across the river where all the food was.. So in the middle of the river the scorpion did still sting the frog and just before the frog died he said ‘Why did you sting me since you will also now die?’ The scorpion replied “Because I’m a scorpion and that just what scorpions do ‘ ”
    The point is that no amount of love and kindness will chance an evil nature. So it is with those Muslims infected to their very soul with the insidious and murderous jihad of Islam

    • Damocles Junior says

      Nov 29, 2016 at 4:53 pm

      Yes, words of wisdom written about 2500 years ago, still true today.

      Slightly related, I was watching a news item on TV last evening, yet another violent (Islamic) gangland altercation in the streets of Sydney’s west. I looked at the assembled crowd and those being arrested, I thought; how can they ever expect those people to ever fit into a civilised society. They don’t even look like they are capable of being educated let alone employed. Yet the calls go out for us to accept more and more as refugees.

  11. Wellington says

    Nov 29, 2016 at 4:35 pm

    I have become increasingly weary of the Catholic Church, a church that I have defended at Jihad Watch many times, even though I am an agnostic, for reasons rooted in its long and illustrious history, but it’s pretty much falling apart right now (by “right now” I mean from the disaster which was Vatican II onwards even though a few bright spots appeared from time to time like Benedict XVI), and it is a huge damn shame that it is. Not only Catholics will suffer because of this but Western Civilization in general will. It is already.

    • Damocles Junior says

      Nov 29, 2016 at 5:07 pm

      Does your church still send missionaries to places like Sudan? (Just wondering)

      The Pope should be using his position of authority to call for a stop to the wars in the Sudan and Syria, as simple as that.

      The Pope should also be making the strongest protest possible about persecution and even the genocide of Christians in Muslim countries. After all, the Pope still speaks from a position of authority and as a show of unity he could speak on behalf of ALL Christians, Catholic, Orthodox and Protestants. Perhaps the UN may even listen to him.

      But no, this compromise with Islam is so wrong, it exceeds all Christian principals on compassion and will do absolutely nothing to solve the problems in places like Somalia. We could take a million refugees from any of these places, the ongoing wars will kill millions more yet they will out breed these losses in no time. The result, we have a million more potential terrorists and an ongoing and very serious social division in all countries that accept the refugees. (Invaders)

      • Nan Barr says

        Nov 29, 2016 at 5:29 pm

        Well, why can’t that voice of AUTHORITY be the 4 Churches of the original ORTHODOX CHRISTAN CHURCH…. after all they suffered under islam for many hundreds of years and SOME like the Egyptians and Antiochian Orthodox still do.

        Personally this present pope is way to friends with commies like the Castro brothers.

        • A Harris USA says

          Nov 30, 2016 at 4:43 pm

          Nan Barr, EXACTLY!!! These churches are not fooled by these savages, and are not fans of Islam, or communism !!! My choice to worship with them..

      • Wellington says

        Nov 29, 2016 at 5:34 pm

        Uh, Damocles Junior, if you had read my post more carefully (yeah, read it again) you would not have stated, as you did, that it is “my church.”

        As for Francis, the man is a colossal fool. Here I think we are in agreement. Unfortunately, he is a very influential colossal fool, which is highly unusual for popes since the vast majority of them have tended to be shrewd men of the world. Francis is an exception here and the consequences of this exception are increasingly demonstrating that they are grave, both within and without the Catholic Church.

      • gravenimage says

        Nov 29, 2016 at 7:29 pm

        DJ, Wellington is not Catholic.

        • Damocles Junior says

          Nov 29, 2016 at 7:56 pm

          To Wellington and Graven Image; I am very sorry that I wrongly assumed a connection or association with the Church of Rome.

          DJ

        • gravenimage says

          Nov 30, 2016 at 7:42 pm

          No problem, DJ.

    • Peggy says

      Nov 29, 2016 at 7:30 pm

      I don’t know what will happen to the Catholic church but unless this Pope is removed somehow and soon there might be a possibility of the church splitting in two.
      I can’t imagine that Catholics are going to accept this bull from him for much longer.
      Other Christian denominations are no better as far as their leadership is concerned. Not much is being done to resist this evil but at least they are not as powerful as the Pope and have as much say in the western world.
      The rot has set in very deep in the Vatican. Can the demons ever be exorcised from there or do the good people of the church need to build a anew Vatican and start again?

      • Carolyne says

        Nov 30, 2016 at 4:44 pm

        This is how the Catholic Church removes Popes. I read it and I believe it to be true.
        If a Pope is ill, they will hit him on the head with a silver hammer kept for that purpose and say, “Your Holiness,” are you dead?” If the Pope says “No,” they hit him again..

        I believe it was John Paul I who reigned only a few months and they certainly got rid of him in a hurry. Some say the tea was poisoned. But Benedict is a different matter and very wise. He got out alive. I don’t know what Francis thinks about Benedict living in splendor in Castel Gandolpho, but I’ll bet it’s not much. Expect the silver hammer any day now.

        At least they don’t carry Popes around in a gold chair anymore. I always wished they’d drop him.

        Expect nothing from Francis, a man who looks like Gomer Pyle in a dress. You are on your own as far as the Catholic Church goes.

        • gravenimage says

          Nov 30, 2016 at 7:55 pm

          Carolyne wrote:

          This is how the Catholic Church removes Popes. I read it and I believe it to be true.
          If a Pope is ill, they will hit him on the head with a silver hammer kept for that purpose and say, “Your Holiness,” are you dead?” If the Pope says “No,” they hit him again..
          …………………………..

          Why would you believe this absurd smear? I’m sorry–this is just outrageous calumny. I am not Catholic, and have my differences with this denomination, but this is just ridiculous.

          More:

          I believe it was John Paul I who reigned only a few months and they certainly got rid of him in a hurry. Some say the tea was poisoned.
          …………………………..

          John Paul I died soon after assuming office. He did not resign. His death was not suspicious; he was just frail. He died of a heart attack.

          More:

          But Benedict is a different matter and very wise. He got out alive. I don’t know what Francis thinks about Benedict living in splendor in Castel Gandolpho, but I’ll bet it’s not much. Expect the silver hammer any day now.
          …………………………..

          Ridiculous.

        • Wellington says

          Nov 30, 2016 at 8:12 pm

          Seconded all that you wrote, gravenimage. Instructive how so many believe rot aplenty. As an example, seems over 50% of Americans (more like 60%+) still believe that JFK was killed by a conspiracy when the evidence is overwhelming, stunningly overwhelmingly, that he was not, as detailed in Gerald Posner’s Case Closed.

          Man advances but in spite of many and not because of many. The few advance the rest along, as Hamilton realized and Jefferson (whom I greatly admire) did not. You know, it’s a tough call whether to be a Jeffersonian, believing in the great good sense of the common man and all that, or being a Hamiltonian, wary of the popular will because it is so often led by emotion rather than reason. I incline toward the Jeffersonian point of view——–but just barely. Guess that’s why I consider myself a skeptical optimist.

          As always, gravenimage, I welcome, indeed cherish, your input here at JW. There is no one wiser than you at this site and I consider that a fact. Again, take care my West Coast friend, said from an East Coast admirer of years now and not just months.

        • Carolyne says

          Nov 30, 2016 at 10:34 pm

          I fear, gravenimage it is you who beats me in the ridiculous department. You don’t take my word for the silver hammer? You really should check before you pronounce from your throne on high, “Ridiculous.” You remind me of the Wizard of Oz.

          All you need do if you wish to learn is Google “Vatican and silver hammer.”. I’m quite sure you won’t though, because you think you already know everything. You will likely be surprised.

          I find you insufferable.

        • Angemon says

          Dec 1, 2016 at 7:36 am

          Carolyne posted:

          “All you need do if you wish to learn is Google “Vatican and silver hammer.”. ”

          Lots of articles about using a silver hammer to determine whether the Pope is alive or sleeping. And smashing his ring. Not murder though.

        • Carolyne says

          Nov 30, 2016 at 10:48 pm

          Further, on the matter of the death of John Paul I, the National Catholic Journal says that he was assassinated. The fact of the matter is that he had tea and toast and was found dead in his bathroom by a nun shortly thereafter. He was not found on his back, dead in his bed, with a book by his side as was the official version.

          If, in the unlikely event, and in a moment of weakness you might have the slightest doubt that there might be something whitch you don’t know, you can “Google” that, too.

          Ho-Hum

        • Peggy says

          Nov 30, 2016 at 11:14 pm

          Do they do autopsies on Popes when they die?
          If they don’t then anything can happen to them and there is no proof of foul play.

        • Angemon says

          Dec 1, 2016 at 7:39 am

          I’m quite certain that if someone had their forehead smashed in with a hammer it wouldn’t take an autopsy to prove foul play… Heck, anyone in the wake could see it for themselves…

        • gravenimage says

          Dec 1, 2016 at 12:16 am

          Carolyne wrote:

          I fear, gravenimage it is you who beats me in the ridiculous department. You don’t take my word for the silver hammer? You really should check before you pronounce from your throne on high, “Ridiculous.” You remind me of the Wizard of Oz.

          All you need do if you wish to learn is Google “Vatican and silver hammer.”. I’m quite sure you won’t though, because you think you already know everything. You will likely be surprised.
          ……………………………….

          Why would I be surprised? I’ve heard the report–unconfirmed–that a pontiff who was presumed to have passed away was gently tapped three times with a silver hammer, his name called each time.

          This is possible, although it was certainly not performed since before the passing of John Paul I.

          Here is Snopes parsing the whole thing:

          http://www.snopes.com/religion/hammer.asp

          Whether this was ever part of the pomp surrounding the passing of a pontiff is questionable–the Vatican itself says no.

          But regardless, this was *never* the case of a pope falling ill and being beaten to death with a silver hammer, as you imply–who knows what crazed anti-Catholic website *that* came from. I haven’t been able to find anything.

          More:

          I find you insufferable.
          ……………………………….

          Yes–I’m sure that being called out on spreading such ugly absurdities must be *very* annoying.

          More:

          Further, on the matter of the death of John Paul I, the National Catholic Journal says that he was assassinated. The fact of the matter is that he had tea and toast and was found dead in his bathroom by a nun shortly thereafter. He was not found on his back, dead in his bed, with a book by his side as was the official version.
          ……………………………….

          I can find the National Catholic Journal, and conspiracy theories about John Paul I, but not both. If you have a link, by all means produce it.

          By the way, even among the conspiracy theories, I haven’t found the one where he was either fed poisoned tea or beaten to death with a silver hammer.

          Here are a few to pore over, though:

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pope_John_Paul_I_conspiracy_theories

          More:

          If, in the unlikely event, and in a moment of weakness you might have the slightest doubt that there might be something whitch (sic) you don’t know, you can “Google” that, too.

          Ho-Hum
          ……………………………….

          There are many things I don’t know, which is why I seek out respected sources when I research things. I suppose not everyone feels the need to follow such a course, though…

        • gravenimage says

          Dec 1, 2016 at 12:21 am

          Thank you so much, Wellington. I consider myself a skeptical optimist–as you so aptly put it–as well.

          Hope you and yours had a wonderful Thanksgiving.

        • Carolyne says

          Dec 1, 2016 at 2:18 am

          I am just so impressed by this great fount of wisdom I can hardly bear it. Really.

          Actually, anyone can learn ‘most anything if they wish to do so. But pseudo-intellectuals have trouble with that theory, believing as they do, that they already know everything worth knowing, so their minds are closed. Sometimes they even tell people with whom they disagree that they are not welcome here, usurping the duties of a host.

          It is most unbecoming. Boring, even.

        • gravenimage says

          Dec 1, 2016 at 4:05 pm

          Carolyne, you can characterize me as a “pseudo-intellectual” and “boring”, but none of this proves your assertion that ailing popes are beaten to death with silver hammers, nor that the National Catholic Journal asserted that Pope John Paul I was assassinated.

          If you can provide reputable–or at this point, even questionable–links supporting any of this, please do so.

          As for my supposedly “unbecoming” behavior, this was a reference to my asserting that Robert Spencer does not call for violence, which this poster took issue with.

          I posted this link from Robert Spencer himself which confirms what I had to say:

          “The truth about Robert Spencer: Rebuttals to false charges”

          https://www.jihadwatch.org/the-truth-about-robert-spencer-rebuttals-to-false-charges

          I’m not sure if Carolyne rejects what Robert Spencer has to say about his own positions, or if she is just annoyed at my pointing them out.

        • gravenimage says

          Dec 1, 2016 at 4:29 pm

          Angemon wrote:

          I’m quite certain that if someone had their forehead smashed in with a hammer it wouldn’t take an autopsy to prove foul play…
          ………………………

          *Very* true, Angemon.

          Given that there is a viewing period in most cases where the body of the pope is on display for the faithful before his burial, this might be a difficult thing to hide, even with a carefully-placed papal tiara…

    • Oliver says

      Nov 29, 2016 at 7:41 pm

      Wellington, I respect you and (usually, not always) agree with you.

      I have posted this before, elsewhere on JW.

      i went to a catholic (Jesuit) university at the time of Vatican 2.

      WE WERE TOLD THEN- (now, this is/was when it was ongoing, and often in the news, and discussed by the priests) (I am not a Catholic, incidentally, but did take some Catholic theology classes) THAT ECUMENCIALISM REFERRED TO THE RELATIONSHIPS ETC BETWEEN THE CATHOLIC CHURCH AND THE OTHER CHRISTIAN RELIGIONS.

      Jews, Hindus, Buddhists, Muslims; etc–NO INCLUDED OR INVOLVED.

      Vatican 2 might have done some harm to the RCC- but (again, as a non Catholic) possibly some good. (One of my – at the time-lost touch a few years after college) told me that a positive benefit was that the services were in English- so more easily followed. But, it did not go for kissing the butts of Muslims.

      that is the greed of people (including those in the RCC) and the pope.

      My views, etc

      • Wellington says

        Nov 29, 2016 at 8:31 pm

        I’m not certain, Oliver, what you mean by “ecumenicalism” but Vatican II did assert that ALL the major religions (and presumably many minor ones too) had valid revelation experiences. This, I contend, was a HUGE MISTAKE because it diminished the uniqueness of Catholicism and, by extension, Christianity. It was gooey moral relativism. And by further extension, and most terrible here, it gave Islam a Get Out of Jail free card.

        As for any good coming from Vatican II, I know of none, including allowing for services in the native language, which has had the consequence of destroying the unifying bond and beauty of the Latin Mass (as well as largely eviscerating a knowledge of this great language). Turning the altar around was also stupid because, as one wag put it long ago, it helped take the mystery out of the faith and made it look more like Julia Child preparing a chicken dinner. The “let us offer each other a sign of peace” during the Mass is yet another mistake of Vatican II since it is so forced and, yes again, so gooey.

        Honestly, Oliver, I don’t know of ONE positive coming from Vatican II and that is why I consider John XXIII one of the most destructive and foolish popes in history. Francis I, however, tops even John XXIII in this regard. Easily so I’m sorry to say.

  12. miriamrove says

    Nov 29, 2016 at 4:48 pm

    And once the Jihadists take over, Catholics will be rounded up and beheaded. m

    • Nan Barr says

      Nov 29, 2016 at 5:30 pm

      And the Orthodox as well. Remember the Orthodox Churches and Monasteries in Syria.

      • Kepha says

        Nov 29, 2016 at 5:38 pm

        Maybe this is why we Evangelical Protestants voted for Trump, even if we disapproved strongly of his lifestyle and other things. It’s also why we will not give up trying to present the Gospel of Jesus Christ to Muslims.

        • gravenimage says

          Nov 29, 2016 at 7:43 pm

          I’m afraid there are some clueless Protestants as well–this dhimmitude cuts across denominational lines.

        • Peggy says

          Nov 30, 2016 at 12:05 am

          Not to be disrespectful but what has the archbishop of Canterbury done to stop Islamisation of the UK?

        • Angemon says

          Nov 30, 2016 at 8:35 pm

          “Not to be disrespectful but what has the archbishop of Canterbury done to stop Islamisation of the UK?”

          Ever the naysayer, aren’t you?

        • gravenimage says

          Nov 30, 2016 at 8:26 pm

          Actually, Peggy, the current Archbishop of Canterbury, Justin Welby, has at least noted that some aspects of Islam are troubling:

          “Archbishop of Canterbury: Stop saying Islamic State has ‘nothing to do with Islam’”

          https://www.jihadwatch.org/2016/11/archbishop-of-canterbury-stop-saying-islamic-state-has-nothing-to-do-with-islam

          But the former Archbishop of Canterbury, Rowan Williams, has been one of the worst dhimmis imaginable. Here is just one story:

          “Former Archbishop of Canterbury: ‘Islam is reviving British values’”

          https://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/08/former-archbishop-of-canterbury-islam-is-reviving-british-values

          In any case, I believe Kepha objects to the Episcopal Church as much as he does the Catholic Church. He refers to Evangelical Christians.

  13. davej says

    Nov 29, 2016 at 5:31 pm

    So US taxpayers finance the importation of 99% Muslim “refugees” and the Catholic Church turns a profit, while the genuinely persecuted Christians in the ME are left to be slaughtered.

    Then the American cities and towns where they are sent must deal with the social chaos and terror attacks that result. What an insane and evil program this is – hope Trump can put a stop to it.

  14. k v sebastian says

    Nov 29, 2016 at 6:28 pm

    “…..Abul [sic] Razak Ali Artan arrived in Dallas with his mother and six siblings.” Deport all of them. They may also be potential terrorists.

  15. jewdog says

    Nov 29, 2016 at 6:42 pm

    In honor of their good intentions, here’s Chris Rea”s “The Road To Hell”:

    • Champ says

      Nov 29, 2016 at 7:40 pm

      islam: the ‘religion’ from hell paves the road to hell …

    • gravenimage says

      Nov 29, 2016 at 7:48 pm

      Entirely apt, Jewdog. That’s *exactly* what this situation is.

  16. JOhn Doe says

    Nov 29, 2016 at 7:15 pm

    I’m and observant Catholic, but have stopped donating to Catholic Charities, which is part of the Refugee Industrial Complex. Along with the Lutherans, who are even worse.

    My donations go to senior meals on wheels and the food bank.

  17. Wellington says

    Nov 29, 2016 at 7:28 pm

    Forget Catholic Charities. Their stupid and destructive sentimental errors are small religious potatoes The MASSIVE error in the Catholic Church right now is the doofus who is the head honcho. And the College of Cardinals is increasingly an error too. By comparison, the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops is only a middling error.

    Ah, lots of errors in the Catholic Church as of present. Rather mirroring the errors in those leading the West right now——in the political realm, academia and the media. Meanwhile, Islam is licking its chops (guess they can’t be pork chops though).

    The Western world is definitely out of joint. Big time. And that Great Parasite, Islam, is gleeful over this. The Age of Nonsense marches on. Time for a beer.

    • Peggy says

      Nov 29, 2016 at 7:36 pm

      Sadly the rest of the religious leaders are not standing up to Islam either. They might not be as active in promoting Muslim migration but they are not resisting it either.
      The reason the Catholic church can do most damage to the world is because it is the largest Christian church and the Pope has more influence.

      I think the problem is so big that even after this Pope is gone he might be replaced with someone just like him. Same people are going to vote on that so why would they change the criteria now?

      • katherine says

        Nov 29, 2016 at 8:05 pm

        Start a mass movement campaign now – ‘ Burke for Pope , We want Cardinal Burke ‘.

    • Keys says

      Nov 29, 2016 at 8:51 pm

      Raising a glass of Sauvignon Blanc to your glass of beer and your comment, Wellington:

      “Ah, lots of errors in the Catholic Church as of present. Rather mirroring the errors in those leading the West right now——in the political realm, academia and the media.”

      I think the fundamental error (teaching, belief, idea, concept, …) for many (not all) of the RCC authorities right now is the, perhaps, well-intentioned, pseudo-belief that the God of the Jews, Christians, and Mohammadans is the same God – the God of Abraham; the idea that all these people worship the same God is an existential error.

      Popes have come and Popes have gone, but the Church has remained. I hope this will continue to be the case for all the good the people of this Church have done – but the consequences of this “error” are different than the consequences of the fueds of the early Church and the fueds of the Reformation.

      This “dispute” is more harmful to the Church than the filioque, the iconoclast, the faith-alone, etc. disputes, because it entails the survival of the Church. (as it does for other realms: the West, the USA, ….)

      The RCC and its organizations have been infiltrated, like many other institutions, just as you succinctly say.

      • Wellington says

        Nov 29, 2016 at 9:46 pm

        Thanks for your comment, Keys. You know, the Catholic Church is rather like Israel—–and America. You don’t have to be a Catholic or an Israeli or an American to hope that these three survive and manifest the best which they are capable of———for one’s sake, for Western Civilization’s sake, for mankind’s sake.

        And I raise you another beer to your glass of Sauvignon Blanc.

  18. Oliver says

    Nov 29, 2016 at 7:48 pm

    RE: Somalis- a bit off topic.

    An acquaintance, a few years ago, told me that he had relatives living in a small New England city. (Heavy Dem city and state- like the people never learn)- and Somalis were brought in.

    Now, before the Somalis, little crime (other than minor teen vandalism- toilet paper in trees; etc–little violent crime like rapes, murders; etc.

    Then Somalis came in- with NO CHECKING- and were from warring ( my word- tribes- I think the proper word was clan’s) — result–gang warfare; rapes/killing/revenge killings; honor killings; robberies of non Somalis; etc.

    property values diminished, people ( and their jobs) moved out.

    Middle class neighborhoods became slums.

    • gravenimage says

      Nov 29, 2016 at 7:55 pm

      I’m afraid this does not surprise at all.

  19. Al says

    Nov 29, 2016 at 8:00 pm

    To accuse the Catholic Church of being ” corrupt, authoritarian and fraternal ” is just plain wrong. Of the over 1 billion Catholics, at least 1/2 are likely women, so that as a fraternity, it is not. No one is coerced to be Catholic, so authoritarian it is not. Individuals may be corrupt, but the Church is not. Like John the Baptist, the Church cries out from the wilderness on behalf of those in need, regardless of the laws of the civil authorities, as it is commanded to do by its Head, Jesus Christ. To criticize individuals, to criticize decisions, to propose alternative solutions are all welcome, but to denigrate the Church and thereby, its Head, is, again, just plain wrong.

    • J.G.Mendes says

      Nov 30, 2016 at 6:35 am

      You pls read the text again: They are not accusing Catholic Church. They are accusing a specific entity: the The U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops. We have the same problem here in Brazil with the CNBB which is a similar organization of the Catholic Church: They are all comunist and follow a worldwidw agenda aiming to destroy western societies.

  20. f c king says

    Nov 30, 2016 at 3:47 am

    I’m not religious at all, but I wish for a Pope that will call for the Crusades again.

  21. J.G.Mendes says

    Nov 30, 2016 at 6:43 am

    It is now getting absolutely clear there is a worldwide plan to destroy western societies and it has being deployed for decades and is reaching its climax these days. You see these obscure force representatives infiltrated in every organization of the countries, as Government, Universities, Elementary Schools, Religious organizations, Political Parties, Media, etc…

    Our only hope to fight against this relies now on the Internet, but even here we have huge enemies like the heads do giants as Google and Facebook… But let´s not give up !

  22. Alarmed Pig Farmer says

    Nov 30, 2016 at 7:01 am

    It’s an industry. The tough part is the Lutherans must be burning with jealousy.

    • gravenimage says

      Dec 1, 2016 at 4:39 pm

      Grimly hilarious, APF. Unfortunately, Lutheran Charities is involved in settling thousands of invading Mohammedans here, as well.

  23. CJ says

    Nov 30, 2016 at 8:10 am

    Perhaps it is time for the victims and their families to start suing the “charities” which sponsored these jihadis. Consider this line from the article (left out of the clip above): “Woodyard points out that refugees are vetted by the U.S. Department of State before they arrive in the United States and that organizations like Catholic Charities are there to help them assimilate and start new lives.”

    If their job is to “help them assimilate,” then they certainly failed in this case. Perhaps “charity” work wouldn’t be so lucrative if we forced them to share their filthy (tax-payer funded) lucre with the victims of their actions.

    Muslims use lawfare against us. Why shouldn’t we return the favor?

  24. Stephen says

    Nov 30, 2016 at 8:25 am

    Latin Christians still hold bias towards Greek Christians, and vice versa. (Schism) West versus east. Pope Francis would let Greek Christians burn in Islamic hell rather than save them. Islam has always progressed in the disunity of Christianity.

    Pray for unity: one faith, one leader, one common catechism.

    • Laura says

      Nov 30, 2016 at 9:11 am

      Oh yes, that should result in something great…One World Religion. No thanks.

  25. Eternal Vigilance says

    Nov 30, 2016 at 10:59 am

    By my calculations, $79 million calculates out to about 43,000 mid-east migrants in 2014 aided surreptitiously by the Conference of Catholic Bishops in gaining them access into the USA. This number is derived from the $1850 / migrant federal reimbursement that the government gives to religious charities. No doubt there are other added reimbursements. Now add to that all the other churches (example: Baptists) that participate in this mass migration and you begin to have an idea why we are seeing so many Burkas around town. No mention of other religious entities being aided in their migration into the USA. Presumably they total zero or some negligible number!

  26. EventHorizon says

    Nov 30, 2016 at 11:15 am

    This site provides an unparalleled illustration of Islam’s key to outgunned victory; deception of the undeceived. When the blind are convinced that they see, you know a Muslim somewhere is laughing.
    Does Mary save?
    Should you attempt to communicate with her?
    Is the “Pope” Biblical?
    Should you call him “Father”?
    Do Catholics and Muslims worship the same god?(At least they got one right)
    Facts matter not to the deceived, just ask a Muslim or a Catholic.

    Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.(1 John 4:1)

  27. John A. Marre says

    Nov 30, 2016 at 11:40 am

    “Assiminate” means completely abandoning and repudiating the vile ideology that they were taught as kids. The hatred for the non-believer. The disrespect for women. The use of violence as the means to all ends. The wish for a totalitarian Islamic state.

    If they do that they won’t be Muslim any more.

  28. iprazhm says

    Nov 30, 2016 at 1:55 pm

    We must seriously question why the U.S. Conference of Bishops has called for the U.S. to take in 100,000 more Syrian refugees. If they were on the side of good, wouldn’t they be calling for MIddle Eastern countries who share the same ideologies to take them in their own side of the world?

  29. Susette says

    Nov 30, 2016 at 3:29 pm

    Thankfully, I left the Catholic church years ago. Sometimes I take my parents to church and throw a $5 bill in the collection. Now I will never give to any Catholic church or organization. I’m appalled that the Pope would not save Christian refugees first. They are most at risk in muslim-dominant countries. What an atrocity.

  30. Peggy says

    Nov 30, 2016 at 11:17 pm

    Angemon says

    November 30, 2016 at 8:35 pm

    “Not to be disrespectful but what has the archbishop of Canterbury done to stop Islamisation of the UK?”

    Ever the naysayer, aren’t you?
    ==============================
    Words of wisdom. Did you think of that all by yourself?

    • Angemon says

      Dec 1, 2016 at 12:28 pm

      Always the insulting, disrespectful little venom spitter, aren’t you?

      • Peggy says

        Dec 1, 2016 at 8:55 pm

        Where is the venom here?
        Your reply to my post was not warranted. Asking questions is allowed I hope or is it only forbidden for me to do so?
        So when I respond to your hostile reply you say I spit venom.

        If you don’t want my reaction to your obvious provocative jabs at me then don’t pay attention to my posts or if you do be a bit more respectful. Oh what am I saying, your loathing of me just won’t allow it.

        • Angemon says

          Dec 2, 2016 at 10:55 am

          Peggy posted:

          “Where is the venom here?
          Your reply to my post was not warranted.
          ”

          Ah, so you get to decide what’s warranted or not. Got it.

          “Asking questions is allowed I hope or is it only forbidden for me to do so?”

          Ha ha, good one! You often mock, deride and insult me for asking you questions, and now here you are, trying to play the victim! F***ing ace!

          “So when I respond to your hostile reply you say I spit venom.”

          What hostile reply was that?

          “If you don’t want my reaction to your obvious provocative jabs”

          What do you mean, “obvious provocative jabs”?

          “at me then don’t pay attention to my posts or if you do be a bit more respectful.”

          You sound exactly like any islamic supremacist I encountered – “better be respectful to me and let me do my thing, or else…

          One would expect someone who demands “respect” to respect others, but your rules and standards simply don’t apply to you, do they?

          “Oh what am I saying, your loathing of me just won’t allow it.”

          You? Accusing someone else of “loathing” you? That’s rich! You should consider running powerpoint presentations – the way you’re projecting, you’d make a killing… Anyway, always trying to play the victim, aren’t you? Spit venom, get flack, play the victim – are you sure you’re not an SJW or a muslim?

  31. Eric Jones says

    Dec 1, 2016 at 12:27 am

    Did Catholic Charities pay for Artan’s tuition? Did they pay for his car? Lets see. I am born American. I purchsed all the cars I have had on my own. I was lucky enough to work for a company that had tuition reimbursement. Why does America put foreigners before its own citizens?

    Pope Francis in his early days was a bouncer. I guess his street tendencies continue to show through.

    Eric

    • Oliver says

      Dec 1, 2016 at 10:00 am

      Eric. I second why does this country pu refugees first. Two other examples. Last summer. The government went out of its
      Way for summer jobs for teenaged refugees. Not black or white or Hispanic refugees. Many. The black
      Hispanic. White might be in low income households. Seemed to be screw them.

      Then. Perhaps why Trump got 10 per cent of the black vote
      Should have been more
      And carried Michigan

      Bill Clinton campaigning in Michigan said that Detroit should be rebuilt by the SYRIAN refugees.

      Why not blacks. Question. Or whites. Question.

      I don’t know if Clinton ever answered that.

  32. Peggy says

    Dec 1, 2016 at 8:50 pm

    gravenimage says

    December 1, 2016 at 4:29 pm

    Angemon wrote:

    I’m quite certain that if someone had their forehead smashed in with a hammer it wouldn’t take an autopsy to prove foul play…
    ………………………

    *Very* true, Angemon.

    Given that there is a viewing period in most cases where the body of the pope is on display for the faithful before his burial, this might be a difficult thing to hide, even with a carefully-placed papal tiara———————————————-

    Maybe it’s how I express myself that is confusing. I know it started with little hammers but it doesn’t help if the Pope is poisoned. Without autopsy it’s quite easy to cover a murder.

    • gravenimage says

      Dec 1, 2016 at 9:11 pm

      I believe Angemon was mostly referring to Carolyne, who claimed it was Catholic custom to beat popes to death if they fell ill, which is clearly absurd.

      Certainly, there have been popes far back in history where foul play has been strongly suspected in their passing. I have seen no cases in the modern period where this appears likely.

      Autopsies are usually performed in cases where the cause of death is either unknown or suspicious. Autopsies are not performed on everyone who passes away in the West.

      If a pontiff’s death were suspicious, I definitely hope the Vatican would sanction an autopsy.

      • Peggy says

        Dec 1, 2016 at 11:05 pm

        If a pontiff’s death were suspicious, I definitely hope the Vatican would sanction an autopsy.
        ==============
        I’m aware that autopsies are not always done in the west but unless one has died in hospital or it’s clear death occurred because of an accident autopsy is always done in the west.
        Anyone who dies at home has to be pronounced dead by a doctor first and is then taken away by the coroner for examination.
        Vatican being the home of Popes is not a hospital and therefore if a Pope dies at home (Vatican) who is to say if it is suspicious or not? Only the coroner can determined if the death is suspicious which means autopsy is required.

        In any case, seeing how corrupt the Vatican is and who knows how long it’s been that way how can we trust that Pope’s death was not suspicious if not examined by the coroner? Do we just take the word of a Cardinal who could be mixed up in all sorts of things?

        So really, we don’t know if there has been anything foul going on there or not. We only have the establishment telling us whatever they want.

        I don’t know if autopsies are carried on Popes that’s why I said unless it’s done we don’t know anything. I didn’t mean we don’t know if his head was bashed in unless autopsy was done. Nobody is that silly to think that.

        I am not concerned about the reply Angemon had for Carolyn but the one for me and yours to me. You might’ve noticed by now that I don’t reply to Angemon’s posts but only to his replies to my posts. He can write whatever he wants to whoever he wants and I am not interested in getting involved in that. The only time I speak to him is when he replies to my posts so him replying to Carolyn would not prompt any sort of a reply from me.

        • gravenimage says

          Dec 2, 2016 at 12:17 am

          Really, I have to admit I find the idea that the Vatican has not changed much since the days of the Borgias to be rather silly.

          The last time a pontiff was seriously threatened with assassination, he was laid low by a Turkish gunman, not a skulking Cardinal slipping something funny into his tea.

        • Angemon says

          Dec 2, 2016 at 11:00 am

          Peggy posted:

          “I am not concerned about the reply Angemon had for Carolyn but the one for me and yours to me. You might’ve noticed by now that I don’t reply to Angemon’s posts but only to his replies to my posts.”

          So you don’t reply to my posts except when you do, and somehow that’s supposed to be a virtue. Got it.

          “He can write whatever he wants to whoever he wants”

          Unless I’m writing to you, in which case you are quick to insult and deride me. Because MUH RESPECT!

          “and I am not interested in getting involved in that.”

          Except for the times you do just that.

          “The only time I speak to him is when he replies to my posts”

          Must be a new rule because I certainly remember you barging in to come after me even when I wasn’t talking to you. As the saying goes, “it’s easier to catch a liar than a lame dog”.

          Anyway, I don’t see how the alleged assassination of a Pope God knows how many years ago is relevant for this day and age. Seems like the kind of irrelevant thing anti-Catholic bigots would bring up out of nowhere for denigrating the RCC.

  33. Peggy says

    Dec 2, 2016 at 7:07 am

    gravenimage says

    December 2, 2016 at 12:17 am

    Really, I have to admit I find the idea that the Vatican has not changed much since the days of the Borgias to be rather silly.

    The last time a pontiff was seriously threatened with assassination, he was laid low by a Turkish gunman, not a skulking Cardinal slipping something funny into his tea.
    =========================
    Maybe that’s true. I am not saying anything with certainty. Just saying that it can be done if they wanted to do it. We are just finding out how bad a situation can be without us noticing anything and that’s thanks to people like Assange, Manning and Snowden. Why would the Vatican be immune to any of it? Nothing would surprise me any more.
    Food for thought.

    • gravenimage says

      Dec 2, 2016 at 3:34 pm

      Anything is theoretically possible, I suppose…

  34. Peggy says

    Dec 4, 2016 at 8:37 pm

    Angemon said:

    Anyway, I don’t see how the alleged assassination of a Pope God knows how many years ago is relevant for this day and age. Seems like the kind of irrelevant thing anti-Catholic bigots would bring up out of nowhere for denigrating the RCC.
    ——————————-

    When did asking if autopsy is performed on Popes become denigrating the church?
    If this is not what you are talking about then do present what you are objecting to.
    Again accusing me of something broad like denigrating the church but not offering how. I didn’t say anything about an assassination of any Pope. My contribution was if there was one would they be able to prove by having an autopsy done?
    So stop LYING about me.

    • Angemon says

      Dec 5, 2016 at 5:51 am

      Peggy posted:

      “When did asking if autopsy is performed on Popes become denigrating the church?”

      Terrible spin attempt, Peggy. You’re pushing the idea that the RCC is going around killing Popes. I’d say that’s not exactly a flattering thing to say, wouldn’t you agree?

      “If this is not what you are talking about then do present what you are objecting to.”

      If you don’t know what I’m talking about, why go on a rant to complain about it?

      “Again accusing me of something broad like denigrating the church but not offering how.”

      See above.

      “I didn’t say anything about an assassination of any Pope. My contribution was if there was one would they be able to prove by having an autopsy done?”

      So you didn’t say anything about the assassination of any Pope, but if they assassinated any number of Popes (like John Paul I is rumoured to have been) then no one would know about it. Got it.

      “So stop LYING about me.”

      When did I lie about you? You obviously have something against the RCC. Why else would you support conspiracy theories such as assassinating Popes or Satanist infiltration?

      • Peggy says

        Dec 5, 2016 at 5:15 pm

        When did I lie about you? You obviously have something against the RCC. Why else would you support conspiracy theories such as assassinating Popes or Satanist infiltration?
        =========================
        When did I mention Satanic infiltration in the Vatican? Go on, show me evidence of that or just plain stop lying Angemon.
        —-
        Peggy posted:

        “When did asking if autopsy is performed on Popes become denigrating the church?”
        —-

        Terrible spin attempt, Peggy. You’re pushing the idea that the RCC is going around killing Popes. I’d say that’s not exactly a flattering thing to say, wouldn’t you agree?

        ++++++++++++

        What spin? Where did I say that RCC is going around killing Popes? It is you who is trying to spin anything I say into something terrible. Don’t you know that you are so transparent? You are not that clever. You have done this too many times for anyone to accept your cr@p as anything benign as normal enquiry.

        Fine, keep going. It will only show you up for the arrogant, frustrated little man that you are.

        • Angemon says

          Dec 5, 2016 at 6:19 pm

          Peggy posted:

          “When did I mention Satanic infiltration in the Vatican?”

          Your non-denial is dully noted…

          “Go on, show me evidence of that or just plain stop lying Angemon.”

          Oh, you just lost a good opportunity to keep that trap of yours closed. But no, you just *needed* to get another insult in, didn’t you? You *needed* to discredit me and assert that I was a “liar” so you could play the poor, innocent victim – “oh, look at the things the big mean Angemon is saying! He’s saying that I said the Vatican was infiltrated by Satanists! I’m the victim here!!!”. What crossed your mind? That you had nothing to lose by doing so? Or maybe you simply lost all sense of reality and thought you could get away with playing the offended virgin. Well, you dun goofed, lass:

          https://www.jihadwatch.org/2016/10/the-vatican-submits-to-islam-2006-2016#comment-1539502

          Peggy says

          October 17, 2016 at 12:12 am

          Wellington says

          October 16, 2016 at 9:32 pm

          Well, Peggy, may I congratulate you on being the first person to accuse me of letting that great fool, Francis, off too easily. And so, if he is not “merely” a great fool, as I have asserted many times here at JW, tell me, Peggy, exactly what he is.

          P.S. You’re mentioning that Francis could be “one of them” is a little vague. Please expand upon this if you will. I would be most interested in how you think Francis is “one of them,” whoever “them” might be.

          Your turn.
          ==============================
          Wellington I merely asked you a simple question which is how do you know he’s simply a fool which you haven’t answered yet but you want me to answer your questions.
          Maybe it’s your turn to answer my question before you ask me one.

          It seems that I have upset you by asking this question. That was not my intention.
          When I said he could be one of them I mean one of the Satanists who have infiltrated the Vatican and other places.
          Now your turn. How do you know that he is simply a fool and not a traitor?

          Are those not your words? Is that not you doing what you, when I mentioned it, declared to be a lie? Did you not just accused me of lying for accurately reporting on what you said? Are you so deranged you don’t even know what you think and write? We’re not talking about your 5th favourite pop song of 15 years ago, this (Satanists infiltrating the Vatican) is a momentous accusation you made not even two months ago. Either you remembered exactly what you wrote and were hoping I was making things up and accidentally getting it right or you simply don’t know what you wrote, no matter how incredibly asinine, incendiary and conspirational it sounds, and you change your mind on such matters so often you eventually forget you made such statements. Whatever the case, it doesn’t bode well for you. You seemingly have a deep-seated hatred of, among other things the RCC, going as far as to declare the Pope as “the enemy”, and you absolutely flip out when it’s brought to the spotlight.

          You’re busted, Peggy. Exposed as the angry, bitter, deranged, venomous fraud you are. You accused me of lying. You set up the criteria for me to prove I wasn’t lying. Well, sunshine, I lived up to it – I delivered the evidence *you* angrily and rudely demanded. And now I *demand* an apology and a retraction. You *will* acknowledge that you lied. You *will* retract the accusations you made against me. And you *will* apologize for doing do. Not because I demand so – which I do, don’t get me wrong – but because it is the *civil* thing to do. And I know you’re not keen on being civil, as demonstrated by your reactions to questions, but luckily for the rest of us you’re not in charge of deciding what’s civil or not. And it’s generally accepted that when you say something that is then proved to be false, you apologize for it. You claimed I was lying. I gave you the evidence you demanded. Your turn. You know what to do.

          “What spin? Where did I say that RCC is going around killing Popes?”

          And the spin keeps going on and on. I said you were pushing that idea, your reply is “when did I say that”? You can push an idea without expressing directly. Which was what you did. Nice try, but no cigar.

          “It is you who is trying to spin anything I say into something terrible. Don’t you know that you are so transparent? You are not that clever. You have done this too many times for anyone to accept your cr@p as anything benign as normal enquiry.”

          In other words: you decided that what I asked was not “normal enquiry” (because, apparently, you’re the arbiter of what constitutes “normal enquiry”) and conscientiously used said decision to justify snapping out at me, and when I, understandably, riposted, you took it as evidence that I was out to get you from the beginning. Got it.

          BTW, you’re not “anyone”‘s spokesperson.

          “Fine, keep going. It will only show you up for the arrogant, frustrated little man that you are.”

          Says the nationality-challenged jackass who accused me of lying, asked for evidence and won’t apologize or retract, even though I *delivered* the evidence you angrily and rudely demanded.

          What’s it going to be, Peggy? Apologize and retract? Or continuing with your little crusade of lies and libel against me? It’s a win-win situation for me, really.

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