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Germany: Muslim preacher preached jihad “under the guise of promoting Islam”

Nov 19, 2016 3:22 pm By Robert Spencer

“Under the pretext of promoting Islam, under the pretext of supposedly harmless distribution of translated versions of the Koran that took place in pedestrian zones, hate messages were propagated and young people radicalized.”

What will German authorities do when they find out that those “hate messages” were actually part of this promotion of Islam? Could these “hate messages” have been statements such as “kill them wherever you find them” (Qur’an 2:191, 4:89, and 9:5), or “when you meet the unbelievers, strike the necks” (Qur’an 47:4) or the assertion that the unbelievers are “the most vile of created beings” (Qur’an 98:6)? How does the German government distinguish between “promoting Islam” in a benign way” and promoting “hate messages,” when there is so much hatred for unbelievers in the Qur’an and Sunnah?

“The organization’s controversial programme called ‘Lies!’ distributes copies of the Koran in German. But experts say the translation is a particularly strict version from the original Arabic text.”

“A strict version from the original Arabic text”? Wouldn’t that imply a translation that translated the text with strict accuracy, rather than taking liberties? And do German authorities think that Muslims in Germany don’t know Arabic, and won’t be able to read the Qur’an exhorting violence against unbelievers if they outlaw a particular translation?

Also, note The Local’s dubbing of Ibrahim Abou-Nagie as a “German preacher,” as if he were just another Dietrich Bonhoeffer or Karl Barth. In reality, Abou-Nagie almost certainly doesn’t consider himself German at all. Rather, he thinks of himself as a citizen of the global umma. If he has German citizenship, it is just as a matter of convenience, not loyalty, and certainly not cultural or civilizational allegiance.

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“The German preacher who heads global Islamist network,” The Local, November 15, 2016:

On Tuesday morning German police raided 200 addresses connected to a now-banned Islamist movement. Ibrahim Abou-Nagie, the movement’s founder, has taken it around the world.

In his video messages to followers, Abou-Nagie doesn’t come across as a dangerous man.

In a recent clip, shot in Malaysian capital Kuala Lumpur, Abou-Nagie appears with a manicured, greying beard and short-cropped hair, and greets his followers with the soothing words: “My dear siblings in Islam.”

But, if German security services are to be believed, the 52-year-old is one of the most dangerous Islamists in Germany.

Interior Minister Thomas de Maiziere on Tuesday banned The True Religion (Die wahre Religion), the preaching network Abou-Nagie founded in 2005, saying it was unconstitutional.

“Under the pretext of promoting Islam, under the pretext of supposedly harmless distribution of translated versions of the Koran that took place in pedestrian zones, hate messages were propagated and young people radicalized,” said the interior minister.

The organization’s controversial programme called “Lies!” distributes copies of the Koran in German. But experts say the translation is a particularly strict version from the original Arabic text….

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  1. Jay says

    Nov 19, 2016 at 3:44 pm

    What will the Germans do? Nothing… not with lefty Merkel. Probably tell Everyone to not be So islamaphobic…

  2. Rev g says

    Nov 19, 2016 at 3:53 pm

    Jihad IS promoting islam. So no harm, no foul, right?

    • mortimer says

      Nov 19, 2016 at 8:46 pm

      Jihad has nothing to do with Islam and Islam has nothing to do with Islam.

  3. Angemon says

    Nov 19, 2016 at 3:57 pm

    The German preacher who heads global Islamist network

    He was born in “Palestine” in the mid 60’s and received German citizenship in the mid 90’s. Deceiving headline if deceiving.

    • Angemon says

      Nov 19, 2016 at 3:58 pm

      Correction: Deceiving headline is deceiving.

  4. eduardo odraude says

    Nov 19, 2016 at 3:58 pm

    “under the guise” of promoting Islam?

    PC tripe. Islam and Jihad are two peas in a pod or closer.

    Bernard Lewis, historian of the Middle East and Islam, says Jihad is an unlimited offensive to bring the whole world under Islamic law; Christian crusades a defensive, limited response to, and imitation of, jihad
    From pp.233-234 of The Middle East: A Brief History of the Last 2000 Years:

    Even the Christian crusade, often compared with the Muslim jihad, was itself a delayed and limited response to the jihad and in part also an imitation. But unlike the jihad it was concerned primarily with the defense or reconquest of threatened or lost Christian territory…The Muslim jihad, in contrast, was perceived [by Muslims] as unlimited, as a religious obligation that would continue until all the world had either adopted the Muslim faith or submitted to Muslim rule.… The object of jihad is to bring the whole world under Islamic law.

    • le mouron rouge says

      Nov 19, 2016 at 8:02 pm

      Thank you, eduardo odraude for the quote.

      Hmmmm, that seems to contradict……….

      Pope Francis and……… Obama.

      The O certainly will call that quote, “fake news” and attempt stop that book from being sold for our benefit!

    • gravenimage says

      Nov 19, 2016 at 11:25 pm

      Good post, Eduardo.

  5. Stephanie says

    Nov 19, 2016 at 4:24 pm

    … why is not allah’s Qur’an still on the index?

    https://twitter.com/schnellmann_org/status/800071038914564096

  6. Mockingjay says

    Nov 19, 2016 at 6:18 pm

    “Lies! Lies! Lies!”

    http://files.alexanders-seite.webnode.at/200002381-439a844937/teaserbox_2454968936.jpeg.png

    Oh – and then this one:

    https://topaktuell2.files.wordpress.com/2015/07/salaf_hn_150707kinder-e1436254097546.jpg

  7. Cretius says

    Nov 19, 2016 at 6:55 pm

    There is no such thing as “Peaceful Islam” or “Peaceful Muslims”. Muslims are encouraged in the Koran to practice deceit when dealing with non-believers.
    http://www.answering-islam.org/Authors/JR/Future/ch16_understanding_dishonesty.htm
    Koran 2:191 “slay the unbelievers wherever you find them”
    Koran 3:21 “Muslims must not take the infidels as friends”
    Koran 5:33 “Maim and crucify the infidels if they criticize Islam”
    Koran 8:12 “Terrorize and behead those who believe in scriptures other than the Koran”
    Koran 8:60 ” Muslims must muster all weapons to terrorize the infidels”
    Koran 8:65 “The unbelievers are stupid, urge all Muslims to fight them”
    Koran 9:5 “When the opportunity arises, kill the infidels wherever you find them”
    Koran 9:123 “Make war on the infidels living in your neighbourhood”
    Koran 22:19 “Punish the unbelievers with garments of fire, hooked iron rods, boiling water, melt their skin and bellies”
    Koran 47:4 “Do not hanker for peace with the infidels, behead them when you catch them”.

    “If we are practicing Muslims, we are above the law of the land”.
    Mustafa Carroll
    Dallas CAIR Director,

    Remember Wahhabism is Sunni = radical Islam = Daesh

  8. 1reader says

    Nov 19, 2016 at 8:25 pm

    “kill them wherever you find them” (Qur’an 2:191, 4:89, and 9:5), or “when you meet the unbelievers, strike the necks” (Qur’an 47:4)

    Remind me not to go to a Muslim Chiropractor!

  9. mortimer says

    Nov 19, 2016 at 8:46 pm

    The Koran’s 164 Jihad Verses: K 002:178-179, 190-191, 193-194, 216-218, 244; 003:121-126, 140-143, 146, 152-158, 165-167,169, 172-173, 195; 004:071-072, 074-077, 084, 089-091, 094-095,100-104; 005:033, 035, 082; 008:001, 005, 007, 009-010, 012, 015-017, 039-048,057-060, 065-075; 009:005, 012-014, 016, 019-020, 024-026, 029,036, 038-039, 041, 044, 052, 073, 081, 083,086, 088, 092, 111, 120, 122-123; 016:110; 022:039, 058, 078; 024:053, 055; 025:052; 029:006, 069; 033:015, 018, 020, 023, 025-027, 050; 042:039; 047:004, 020, 035; 048:015-024; 049:015; 059:002, 005-008, 014; 060:009; 061:004, 011, 013; 063:004; 064:014; 066:009; 073:020; 076:008

    • Mockingjay says

      Nov 21, 2016 at 1:03 pm

      Thank you for the handy list, Mortimer!

  10. Gary says

    Nov 19, 2016 at 10:29 pm

    Mr. Ibrahim Abou-Nagie,

    When ISIS, (Your muslim “brothers”), use civilians as human shields in Mosul, I consider then COWARDS!

  11. gravenimage says

    Nov 19, 2016 at 10:55 pm

    Germany: Muslim preacher preached jihad “under the guise of promoting Islam”
    ……………………

    This is not a guise–Jihad is mainstream Islam.

  12. U.N.Dubey says

    Nov 19, 2016 at 11:09 pm

    The more we try to go deeper into understanding Islamic ideology the more it looks like a violent death cult and political ideology hiding behind cloak of a religion. Generally non-Muslims are focussed on their development, education etc rather than in religion in comparison to Muslims who focus on Islam than education etc. This is the reason they are by and large more poor and dogmatic than non-Muslims but at the same time blame their backwardness to non-Muslim world. Nevertheless why the so called secular media and politicians keep uttering politically correct statements about Islam. Are non-Muslims so dumb or are they being misguided by dumb liberals.

  13. Senator says

    Nov 20, 2016 at 12:11 am

    They didn’t ARREST SHIT!! I European out from the military and my wife is a local nationali. They let these POS’ES have free rain!!!! But here’s the thing. We see they get away with shit and so we do the same thing to these POS’ES & now we gat arrested and they let us go until trial. They run like diarrhea. I’m X Airborne Infantry and these fuckers can’t fight for shit one on one. They fuck up and have NO IDEA that some people they approache are EX-AMERICAN MILITARY & they end up being hospitalized. Some of our guys actually (“visit”) them in certain hospitals. …….. They don’t report that.

    • 1reader says

      Nov 20, 2016 at 10:56 am

      A Somali who tried to force me to the narrow part of the path, saw that I did not cower and I held my ground and I made myself big with a certain look on my face – he cowered like a pussy and made a “don’t hit me” look. They only act confident in groups.

  14. LB says

    Nov 20, 2016 at 4:09 am

    This is actually a good sign. What the Germans are condemning here is the supposed “perverted” version of islam, and they rightfully recognize it to be anti-Western and anti-constitutional. Now if only they were to understand that this is actually mainstream islam, the West might actually wake up from their PC deluded multiculti fantasy. But as long as the Left is in charge, useful idiots like dope Francis and mama Merkele will continue to make sure that the people are being kept under.

    • andra says

      Nov 20, 2016 at 7:31 am

      The German authorities know very well that jihad is Mainstream Islam, but they still want to deceive the German People. As the Minister of State who is responsible fot this ridiculous strike against Salafism once said: Parts of the truth could insecure the People and therefore we Keep the truth for us.

      This whole strike against Abou-Nagie´s organisation is a fake, if anybody cares for my opinion. This guy has been to court for quite a long while because of welfare fraud, and all the time there was no action against LIES or other of his activities. And just at the time he has left Germany to visit Malaysia this raid takes place. It shows once more that the Merkel government does not want to hurt their Muslim friends.
      On top of this stupid action the so called Integration Minister Aydan Özoguz demands for more tact against Salafists and other Muslim terrorists.
      This whole story was just set up to “prove” that the German government fights back Islamistic terrorism. LOL

      And the greatest problem for the Ministery of State today is how to bury correcty the some thousands of Koran translations they have confiscated.

  15. David says

    Nov 20, 2016 at 9:26 am

    I’m still very confused! If islam IS all about going jihady, and going jihady is islam, where does the : “this Jihadist attack obviously has nothing to do with islam” begin from?
    Was this another muslum “Fartwah”? Spewed direct from the plump arse of some drunken Immam?????
    I’m remembering the famous words of General George Custer: “Just kill ’em all, and let God sort them out at his end!”.

  16. Singh the Sikh says

    Nov 20, 2016 at 10:21 am

    Merkel the senile bitch is reportedly mulling over another run for office, her fourth. Which confirms her silliness and lack of self awareness, brought on by dementia. Hopefully she will run, and hopefully the Germans will give her a nice sendoff with a high kick in the arse.

  17. DFD says

    Nov 20, 2016 at 10:49 am

    Robert Spencer says: “…What will German authorities do when they find out that those “hate messages” were actually part of this promotion of Islam?…”

    Bring in more Muslims, silly question…

  18. Michael Copeland says

    Nov 21, 2016 at 5:29 am

    The giving out of Korans is assumed to be Oh-so-benign and kindly. It is nothing of the sort.
    Giving a non-muslim a Koran constitutes an “invitation to Islam”.
    If the recipient does not convert to Islam he is to be killed.
    Sharia authorises him to be attacked and killed, his property taken, and his wife and children enslaved.

  19. epistemology says

    Nov 22, 2016 at 4:11 am

    He prides on converting lots of people, the Germans are so gullible and stupid and as I keep saying every German convert to Islam is a Nazi.

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