She could have said, “You people who are rioting are being hysterical. This is not the end of the republic, contrary to numerous such statements by my friends and allies. On the contrary, it shows that the republic still works and that dissent is still possible even after years of being stigmatized and demonized by the mainstream shapers of opinion. People who abide by the law have nothing whatsoever to worry about. Stop rioting and go home.”
Instead, she spoke about how Muslims and gays are “scared to death,” which just stokes the hysteria of the rioters and provides them justification for continuing their orgy of violence.
“Clinton approached by people ‘scared’ after election,” by Mallory Shelbourne, The Hill, November 12, 2016:
In a speech thanking her staff Friday night, Hillary Clinton said she has spoken to Americans who feel “scared” in the wake of Donald Trump’s presidential victory.
“Today, I heard from one of the people I met who lives in fear of her parents being deported and she’s scared to death that it’s going to happen,” Clinton said, according to Fast Company.
“I heard from a young man I’ve known for a very long time, who is gay, and he said, ‘What’s going to happen to me? And what’s going to happen to my friends?’ I’ve heard from countless women who know that the rights we’ve fought for for so long are on the line,” she added.
The campaign held a goodbye party Friday at the New York Marriott in Brooklyn, where her campaign headquarters had been located.
The former Secretary of State was met with a long applause from her staff, who held “Thank you” signs in the air, according to the report. Clinton reiterated that the fight was not over, despite the election loss.
“We can’t just throw up our hands and walk away from these fights,” she said.
In the days since Trump’s victory, protesters have taken to the streets in major cities across the country to voice their opposition to the president-elect. Demonstrators have cited Trump’s rhetoric regarding women and minorities as part of their frustration….

Jay Boo says
Gays might be scared that Democrats are using them as pawns to be slaughtered to appease Muslims.
Oliver says
Jay- it should be GAYS SHOULD BE SCARED—- then the rest of your statement.
But, seemingly, they ( the gays and the liberal establishment) are so into themselves that they cannot think.
What the hell have Trump and/or Pence said that has the gays with their panties tied up in knots, said?
Gay marriage etc should be up to the state?
That ADULTS (I would include teens) use the bathroom of their gender, not ” what they think they are” or ‘ what they identify with’ 9at a particular time).?
I saw nothing that either said that gays should be thrown off buildings and/or stoned (in Iran, I beleive it was, a gay survived the fall, so was then stoned).
As to Muslims- a ban from places where violence is endemic, and people cannot be vetted? That seems to be good common sense.
Illegals should be deported- wait, now “undocumented”. There might be exceptions-one example- (I have posted this elsewhere)- brief summary-man was married to a woman with dual citizenship; he had a green card; basically not well educated-but hard worker; couple split-he never knew green card had to be renewed. Got a job- was there well over TWENTY YEARS. Co. never told him to renew his green card. Bought a home, and he and his (common law wife–due to religious reasons, he and wife never divorced-just separated -for over 25 years) raised a family. ONCE got a traffic ticket. No other contacts with the police; never broke any laws. Coached children’s (10-12 year old boys) sports teams- free.
Was deported-illegal-never renewed his green card.
THAT -MY VIEW- WRONG.
Criminals, dopers; child molesters, they should be deported.
Edward Spader says
The only thing undocumented residents need to do is to apply or renew their immigration documents, then you can stay! Refuse and you get a one way trip home! It’s not rocket science! Trump isn’t just going to load you all up and ship you home! You will have a chance to apply for your papers to remain in the USA! The only thing we are asking you to do is to get off your ass and apply!
Oliver says
My acquaintance was deported- and this makes no sense- for two or three years. And not offered a chance to rectify the problem.
here- which I Mentioned is the kicker- HE PAID TAXES AND SOCIAL SECURITY EVERY YEAR. HE WORKED ON THE BOOKS.
For over 20 years the Feds knew where he lived and worked ( same firm).
Yet, criminals are given free passes.
don vito says
I too, have pled ignorance of the law, as a defense. It has not worked for me, but I never tried poorly educated, perhaps it would work.
Oliver says
Poor education- would not have been the first line of defense- but ADDED TO-IN OVER 20 YEARS-PAID TAXES EVERY YEAR-WITH HIS REAL-ONLY-SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER. NEVER IN TROUBLE WITH THE POLICE. Amodel citizen. A hell of a lot better then many American born and college educated pieces of shit. (Currently,the rioters; those who burned American flags at the DNC; and before- and after; etc.
Oliver says
To Brian Huff–
The woman (Louisiana State Univ. student) WHO CLAIMED that she was attacked by 2 white men, driving a gray sedan; robbed her wallet and ripped her head gear; one wore a Trump hat.
TOTAL LIE. TOTAL FABRICATION–SHE (THE WOMAN) ADMITTED THAT SHE MADE THE ENTIRE STORY UP.
gravenimage says
This is true, Oliver–the Muslimah has admitted she lied:
“Louisiana: Hijab-wearing Muslima fabricated story of attack by Trump supporters”
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2016/11/louisiana-hijab-wearing-muslima-fabricated-story-of-attack-by-trump-supporters
nicu says
I think you never have met a gay or TG person in real life personally – what you say is very insulting and stupid .
I hope Muslims are scared to death !
so they know how we feel in Europe !
Look who is rioting , now – NOT Trump voters – it’s Hillary voters who act like savages !
Oliver says
I have never (that I Know of) met a TG person. I have known many gays. And lesbians.
Why is what I said insulting and stupid?
Because I said that the gays and liberal establishment are so into themselves? perhaps i should have said the gay “leadership” -which I’m not sure who appointed them the leaders or spokespersons. As said elsewhere- nobody really cares ( implying consenting adults) -which I agree with. I disagree with the idea of child rape -done to males or females (including that done by priests)- but if two priests want to have sex with each other- fine with me.
Jay Boo says
nicu
Muslims are not scared.
Unfortunately Islam is a shameless baby-killer vanity cult.
If Muslims had normal emotions they would be ashamed and leave Islam.
Muslims love to probe and test our resolve.
Hillary and Obama fell right in line.
They did not blame Muslims.
A MAJOR mistake.
The Orlando attack was a merely a probing trial run for a much larger attack on children at nearby Disney World because of Hillary and Obama.
That is what Muslims do. They test the boundaries.
They seek out soft targets.
Every Muslim is aware of this on some level which is why they attack us at will with no real push back.
When Hillary and Obama folded, they foamed at the mouth with glee.
Oliver says
By the way, what I DO OBJECT TO–the gays ( and lesbians)- being upset and suing-photographer a will not do their wedding pictures-so they sue; why not go to photographer B. Same- bakers, etc.
I CANNOT UNDERSTAND why any rational (perhaps that si the key) WOULD WANT TO DO BUSINESS AND GIVE MONEY TO SOMEONE WHO DISLIKES OR DESPIES THEM.
Brian Hoff says
I hate to disagree with you bigot. I read the CAIR newletter talking about trump supporter attacking moslim women who wear the hijab . some mainstream paper and media are reporting these attack by trump brown shirt trying to be like Hitler brown shirt.
Angemon says
And Hamas-linked CAIR, who lives off alleged “hate crimes” and are quick to cry “hate crime” despite any evidence to the contrary says so, they must be right, right Brian? Same thing for the Hillary-backing MSM, who spent the best part of their election coverage portraying Trump as a racist, sexist bigot – surely they are impartial and would never, ever tell a lie, right Brian?
gravenimage says
“Brian Hoff”–really, “DefenderofIslam”–should look above. The Muslimah herself admitted she fabricated the story.
Steve says
Just think if they would had come here legal, they would not have to worry.
judy says
When there deported how long does it take some to come back? Took one 2 weeks to make it to Satsop, WA. 30 years ago. We do not have enough space to put them, per the tv. We need to try a fence like Net has in Middle East
RL Robison says
Interestingly, Mexico (which has strict immigration rules) is considering building a wall along ITS southern border! Iconic, isn’t it?!!!
Oliver says
to R L Robinson-
I thought that Mexico has a fence/wall on its southern border. That is how they catch the illegals from Central America. (I read that somewhere).
WHAT IS ALSO INTERESTING: BILL CLINTON PROPOSED THE SAME THING, WHEN HE RAN FOR HIS FIRST TERM.
MORE INTERESTING: WHEN OBAMA RAN FOR HIS FIRST TERM, HE SAID THAT THE U.S. CANNOT AFFORD UNEDUCATED/UNSKILLED ILLEGAL ALIENS, WHO ALSO DO NOT SPEAK THE LANGUAGE.
I do not recall the liberarturds referring to either ( especially Obama) as racist.
Custos Custodum says
Oliver, you don’t seem to be aware that the totalitarian leftists in government jobs go to great lengths to CREATE hard cases like this by searching for minor transgressions NOT accompanied by criminal convictions and tax evasion, and then applying existing rules in an intentionally unreasonable and vicious manner.
The purpose is to turn the immigrant into a propaganda case to “show” that all immigration enforcement is inhumane and wrong.
All the while, known gang bangers, tax evaders, polygynists etc. are waved through with politically correct alacrity. Arbitrary enforcement for ideological fun and, yes, profit through various forms of bribery.
Oliver says
CC– my guy got no publicity. I knew him because his daughter-born here and married to a citizen-did business (legitimate business) through a friend of mine.
But, yes, his case is inhumane.
Incidentally, a few years ago, Mr. Trump addressed this very issue- stating that if a person is here illegally- but honest, tax paying and just screwed something up- and has been here for years- there has to be a mechanism to straighten the situation out. HONEST AND LAW ABIDING were the keys.
TJ says
Hillary Clinton is obviously a useless purveyor of sensationalism. If other people in our government were obviously better than her, they would be happy to show they are accountable in front of the American people. They would do this by all going on c-span and commenting publicly on a statement in the koran where it says most Jews are treacherous and there are only a few good ones. First of all, this practice would show they are even paying attention to this anti-religious statement which does not deserve the religious protection from congress it is currently receiving. Secondly, anyone who can not denounce this racist exaggeration publicly deserves to be fired a helluva lot more than the bathroom toe-tapper did. If Trump and the military would do their job right and force them all to do this, he will have richly deserved winning the presidency, and the military would start to do a better job of truly protecting of us from these pervs.
Michael Laudahn says
She hasn’t given up yet. A little like the anti-brexiteers…
Jay Boo says
The MSM brags on Hillary that she never gives up.
Persistence is never a virtue when its foundation is willful DELUSION.
““The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, but expecting different results”.
Michael Laudahn says
I trust your system is still strong enough to overcome this phase. This includes the military who must keep an eye on inferiority-complex loaden madman Putin. I would be less certain in a similar situation over here.
Jay Boo says
The Witch-Bitch Hillary hates America.
Hillary is a shameless spiteful DIVIDER of Americans.
Christianblood says
Michael Laudahn posted
(..I trust your system is still strong enough to overcome this phase. This includes the military who must keep an eye on inferiority-complex loaden madman Putin..)
Who is the madman? President Putin who is helping the legitimate government of Syria who are protecting millions of Christians and others against international jihadist mercenaries created and armed by the US and Saudi Arabia or the crazed, pro-jihadist regime changers who are backing the barbaric, head-chopping jihadists??? Watch them in their own words and tell me who are the real crazies:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dqn0bm4E9yw
Angemon says
Christianblood posted:
“President Putin who is helping the legitimate government of Syria who are protecting millions of Christians and others against international jihadist mercenaries created and armed by the US and Saudi Arabia or the crazed, pro-jihadist regime changers who are backing the barbaric, head-chopping jihadists??? ”
Ah, I see propaganda spewing trolls don’t get the weekend off. “Legitimate leader”? The man who used violence to crackdown on protesters? “Protecting millions of Christians”? The destruction of the Christian population of Syria dates back to 2003 – that’s long before ISIS came into scene. Speaking of ISIS, Assad, the one you call “legitimate leader”, eager to paint protesters as terrorists”, granted amnesty to many dangerous jihadis imprisoned in the Sednaya prison. They end up as key members of jihadi groups, ISIS included, but at least the “legitimate leader” could now paint protesters as “terrorists”. Is unleashing jihadis on is people what you call “protecting Christians”?
https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/2884/assad-slaughtering-syrian-christians
Putin is supporting a leader who used violence against his people, under whose watch the destruction of the Christian community started and gained momentum, and who strengthened his own enemies so he could try to force the international community to choose between him and the terrorists he propped up. What does that tells us of Putin? And what does that tells us of you, who are lying about the whole thing?
Christianblood says
And here:
Michael Laudahn says
Christianblood:
Thanks for the selective agitprop picks to underline your official russian point. You’ve been looked through earlier, unless I’m mistaken.
Avenger says
Michael, you worry what Putin may do during the very minor chaos created during the American elections? I’m pretty sure nothing, Putin will most likely be seeking “detente” with Trumps new US State Department.
Im curious, did you worry also when GW Bush and B Obama imploded the Middle East and caused the largest movement of refugees since WWII?
I would watch what may happen if the USA, under President Trump, decides not to prop up Saudi Arabia and the Gulf States militarily. They’ll be much less eager to export terrorism and will now have to direct their attention to a soon to be nuclear Iran instead.
Michael Laudahn says
Avenger:
I’m in general wary about a soviet-style Russia which is kind of mentally retarded, yet always looks for fault with everybody else.
Their problems exist in their minds only. Instead of threatening others and re-incorporate tsar- or Stalin-outsourced russians (ie the territories they dwell on) back into their reich, they should seek professional help – thus not from their schools of thought.
gravenimage says
Yes–Christians are still under threat under Assad, and Christians are regularly abused and even murdered there–it is just not as bad as it is in the Islamic State.
Avenger says
@Gravenimage
Please direct me to any information that Bashar Assad persecuted Christians before the Sunni Arab Spring uprising.
Catholic and Orthodox Christians were building new churches to accommodate a increasing Syrian Christian population before the civil war. That endeavor is unheard of in any other Muslim majority country.
Christians have resolutely backed Assad against US-Saudi funded Al Qaeda and ISIS rebels.
It is Sunni aggression “a pogrom” against Shia, Alawite, Kurd, Christian, Druze and Yazidis that is occurring.
So again, tell me why the US and NATO want Assad destroyed. Is it to keep Syria a secular state or to establish a new Sunni Sharia pawn for the House of Saud and Erdogan?
Angemon says
Avenger posted:
“Please direct me to any information that Bashar Assad persecuted Christians before the Sunni Arab Spring uprising.”
Look no further than a recent JihadWach article:
jihadwatch.org/2016/11/lebanese-christian-donald-trump-is-good-for-middle-eastern-christians
Avenger says
Michael, would you agree that US foreign policy is also “retarded “?
We aided Pakistans nuclear weapons program (along with China) to develop the bomb. The US aided Islamists against communists and Christians in Indonesia. The US did nothing when turkey invaded Cyprus. The US supported the Muslim brotherhood against long time ally Mubarak. Need I mention Libya?
I have to say one thing about the USA, that is its consistency , it’s consistently pro Islam.
Angemon says
Avenger posted:
“We aided Pakistans nuclear weapons program (along with China) to develop the bomb. ”
Citation needed. Why do you insist in pushing such a falsehood?
Michael Laudahn says
Avenger:
I have earlier pleaded here to have the thought schools (this where the ideologies are bred which then are being followed by their leaders) of Russia AND THE USA challenged by well-known philosophers etc, in public (TV), on a regular basis. The occasional highlight could be a ‘threesome’.
And yes, I do know a lot is wrong with your country and its people. We as europeans are especially sensitive to fx seeing our superior products dumbed down and disimproved by your yankee business maniacs, then forcefully re-imported here. Check out the website to which my name links for better understanding of the effect I referred to.
Christianblood says
gravenimage posted
(..Yes–Christians are still under threat under Assad, and Christians are regularly abused and even murdered there–it is just not as bad as it is in the Islamic State..)
Graven, your words are incredibly far from the truth! Christians in Syria and other minorities will be totally destroyed not by Assad who is protecting them but by the US and Western-backed jihadists. They will definitely be massacred if Assad falls and US-backed jihadists make Syria into another jihadist state. Do you know, during Saddam’s days there were close to two million Christians in Iraq? Do you know what happen to those Christians after US destabilized that country and unleashed jihadists there? Do you know how many Christians remain in Iraq today? Do you know, for the first time in 1700 years there is no Christian mass being celebrated in Iraq today? Does the US and the West even care?
Watch as nearly half a million Syrian Christians celebrate last Christmas in the streets of Damascus under the protection of the president Assad and his heroic Syrian Army. Imagine what would happen to these Christians if the American-backed barbaric islamic jihadists toppled president Assad’s government as America and their Saudi-Qatar-Western allies were expecting. Watch the video:
https://www.rt.com/news/327064-christmas-celebrate-syria-damascus/
Angemon says
Christianblood posted:
“Graven, your words are incredibly far from the truth!”
Much to the contrary, gravenimage is spot on.
“Christians in Syria and other minorities will be totally destroyed not by Assad who is protecting them”
Nonsense:
gatestoneinstitute.org/2884/assad-slaughtering-syrian-christians
Recently, a Lebanese Christian stated that the persecution of Christians in Syria dates back to 2003, over a decade before the islamic state appeared:
jihadwatch.org/2016/11/lebanese-christian-donald-trump-is-good-for-middle-eastern-christians
“but by the US and Western-backed jihadists. They will definitely be massacred if Assad falls and US-backed jihadists make Syria into another jihadist state.”
As shown above, they were being massacred during Assad’s watch, long before ISIS existed.
“Do you know, during Saddam’s days there were close to two million Christians in Iraq? Do you know what happen to those Christians after US destabilized that country and unleashed jihadists there?”
Funny that you accuse the US of “unleashing jihadis”. The US deposed Saddam, who had been islamizing Iraq since the early 90’s. Assad allowed salafis to preach openly in Syria just as long as they directed Syrian jihadis to Iraq, where they would wage jihad against Americans and Iraqi non-muslims. Assad allowed jihadis to use Syria as a highway to Iraq.
“Do you know how many Christians remain in Iraq today? Do you know, for the first time in 1700 years there is no Christian mass being celebrated in Iraq today? Does the US and the West even care?”
You have Saddam and Assad to blame for that, with their policies of islamization of their respective countries.
“Watch as nearly half a million Syrian Christians celebrate last Christmas in the streets of Damascus under the protection of the president Assad and his heroic Syrian Army.”
The same “heroic” army that was slaughtering Christians in the streets.
“Imagine what would happen to these Christians if the American-backed barbaric islamic jihadists toppled president Assad’s government as America and their Saudi-Qatar-Western allies were expecting.”
“American-backed”? Who? The jihadis Assad granted amnesty to and unleashed on his people so he could portray anyone protesting against him as being a “terrorist”?
Jack Diamond says
Avenger: “We aided Pakistans nuclear weapons program (along with China) to develop the bomb.”
That’s a little misleading. They developed nuclear weapons through deceit
and subterfuge and theft vis a vis the U.S. That is their M.O.
Our aid to Pakistan was predicated on the opposite, witness that their continued violation of agreements brought about the Pressler Amendment, approved by Congress in 1985, “which banned most economic and military assistance to Pakistan unless the President certified on an annual basis that “Pakistan does not possess a nuclear explosive device and that the proposed United States assistance program will reduce significantly the risk that Pakistan will possess a nuclear explosive device.”
With Pakistan promising that if we continued to provide aid (i.e. jizya) it would not need nuclear weapons. All the while it was developing them, after A.Q. Khan stole the means
to do so. We did not intentionally aid Pakistan to develop the bomb.
gravenimage says
Avenger wrote:
@Gravenimage
Please direct me to any information that Bashar Assad persecuted Christians before the Sunni Arab Spring uprising.
……………………….
All you have to do is check the Jihad Watch archives for Syria before 2011.
The presecution in Syria was not as bad as in many parts of Dar-al-Islam, as I noted at the time–but that hardly means that it was absent.
Of course many Christians in Syria support Assad–as I would myself were I there–because the current altenative is much, much worse.
More:
Christians have resolutely backed Assad against US-Saudi funded Al Qaeda and ISIS rebels.
……………………….
Ah–another troll who is claiming that the US is behind ISIS–why does this not surprise?
US authorities rightly sees Assad as a thug–what they do not appear to grasp is that there are *no* moderates or “freedom fighters” in that craphole.
Really, Jihad Watch has been saying this for years now. Did you fail to notice?
Avenger says
@Angemon
In 1953, Eisenhower decided to help struggling pro western economies develop the “peaceful” use of nuclear energy. Some of the countries that received this aid were India, Pakistan, South Africa, Iran and Israel. This included the gift of highly enriched Uranium. A few years after the program was discontinued four of those same nations used this economic and technical aid to develop their own covert nuclear arms program. They were Pakistan, South Africa, Israel and India.
I truly believe that Eisenhower would never have intended this program to be subverted, as it has only created more global tension and chaos since.
In researching I also believe China helped Pakistan greatly in developing a delivery and silo system for their newly constructed nuclear warheads. It’s all history now but out of the four that went on to develop there own arsenals only the Pakistani’s are crazy and stupid enough to use them.
Iran feels shorted and this is where the US, the EU and Russia needs to keep them.
Angemon says
Avenger posted:
“n 1953, Eisenhower decided to help struggling pro western economies develop the “peaceful” use of nuclear energy. ”
As far as I can tell, a nuclear energy program is not the same as a nuclear weapons program. Why “peaceful”? Are you implying that nuclear energy can never be sued for peaceful purposes?
“A few years after the program was discontinued four of those same nations used this economic and technical aid to develop their own covert nuclear arms program.”
“Their own covert nuclear weapons program”. You’re shooting yourself in the foot here, since you claimed the US aided the Pakistani nuclear weapons program to develop the bomb. China did, but the US? Nope. Not the first time you make his claim, you’re still as wrong now as you were the other times.
gravenimage says
Christianblood wrote:
gravenimage posted
(..Yes–Christians are still under threat under Assad, and Christians are regularly abused and even murdered there–it is just not as bad as it is in the Islamic State..)
Graven, your words are incredibly far from the truth! Christians in Syria and other minorities will be totally destroyed not by Assad who is protecting them but by the US and Western-backed jihadists.
……………………………
Except for the usual meretricious claptrap about the US being ISIS, this is exactly what I said. Assad is oppressive and allows–like most Muslim “leaders”–for persecution and sporadic violence against Christians.
Most of those who would take over from Assad are *much, much worse*, and would likely lead to out-and-out genocide of Christians, as has happened in the Islamic State.
I have already noted many times that Christians there back Assad because they have little other choice.
More:
They will definitely be massacred if Assad falls and US-backed jihadists make Syria into another jihadist state. Do you know, during Saddam’s days there were close to two million Christians in Iraq?
……………………………
What do you mean “do I know”? I have commented on this many times here. As under Assad, Christians were persecuted and brutalized under Saddam and slowly driven out and murdered; things have accelerated considerably in his wake.
More:
Watch as nearly half a million Syrian Christians celebrate last Christmas in the streets of Damascus under the protection of the president Assad… Watch the video
……………………………
I’ve already watched this video, and commented on it at the time. Christians do not currently face full on genocide under Assad, and hence he is better than the alternative. How many times does this need to be said?
Angemon says
gravenimage posted:
“Assad is oppressive and allows–like most Muslim “leaders”–for persecution and sporadic violence against Christians.”
When he is not outright ordering their slaughter:
https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/2884/assad-slaughtering-syrian-christians
Avenger says
Angemon, the execution of a lone christian subversive that threw in his allegiance to aid Sunni rebels does not constitute a “slaughter of Christians”. Then claiming a handful of other Christians being killed is unsubstantiated. What a red herring article.
You have to have more than this bogus POC article.
Angemon says
Avenger posted:
“Angemon, the execution of a lone christian subversive that threw in his allegiance to aid Sunni rebels does not constitute a “slaughter of Christians”. Then claiming a handful of other Christians being killed is unsubstantiated. What a red herring article.”
You seem like you have a narrative to push, so I’m guessing that no amount of evidence will ever suffice and that you’ll always found some fault in whatever it is that is shown your way. Anyway, here goes another:
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2016/11/lebanese-christian-donald-trump-is-good-for-middle-eastern-christians
“You have to have more than this bogus POC article.”
Easy there. Gatestone Institute is a well respected source of information. It features, among others, articles by Robert Spencer, Raymond Ibrahim. Why would they allow a “bogus POC article” to go through their strict standards? BTW, both Obama and AL-Jazeera stated that Assad is the protector of Christians in Syria. Unimpeachable, reliable sources, am I right?
Avenger says
@ Jack Diamond
Excellent post Jack, I did mislead about intentions but the facts are Pakistan would most likely be non nuclear today if it wasn’t for the the Atoms for Peace program. Good intentions with horrifying results.
gravenimage says
Good posts, Angemon and Jack.
Avenger says
@Gravenimage
I’ll publish a book on how the USA and Saudi’s created and nurtured ISIS.
Sometimes your own dog will bite you.
Christianblood says
Angemon & gravenimage
Do you know, during Saddam’s days there were close to two million Christians in Iraq? Do you know what happen to those Christians after US invaded and destroyed that country and unleashed jihadists there? Do you know how many Christians remain in Iraq today? Do you know, for the first time in 1700 years there is no a single Christian mass being celebrated in Iraq today? Does the US and the Western governments/societies even care the depths of this religious genocide they helped created? Do they understand the same will happen in Syria which is the only country that has Christian churches that still speak Aramaic, the ancient language that Jesus spoke unless they stop supporting islamic jihadists that are fighting to over throw and replace the secular government of Assad? Do the Western governments and their societies aware they are being used as a tool to wipe out Christianity in the ME and beyond? Do they understand the divine karmaic consequences this will have on the Western world?
Angemon says
Christianblood posted:
Angemon & gravenimage
“
Do you know, during Saddam’s days there were close to two million Christians in Iraq?”
Do you know that Saddam was implementing the islamization of Iraq? Public consumption of alcohol was prohibited, religious tests became mandatory for members of his party, quranic studies were added to the school syllabus, etc.
“Do you know what happen to those Christians after US invaded and destroyed that country and unleashed jihadists there?”
I can’t answer that question because it’s a loaded question, based on things you have yet to prove and are instead presenting as facts. The US “unleashed” jihadis in Iraq? Nope. Saddam had been islamizing Iraq since the early 90’s. His own brother, responsible for the Intelligence services, warned him not to empower islamists. Do you know who actually unleashed jihadis in Iraq? Assad. He allowed Syria to be used by muslim terror groups as an highway to Iraq, where Syrian jihadis would go wage jihad on Americans and non-muslim Iraqis.
Are you going to condemn Assad for what he did?
“Do you know how many Christians remain in Iraq today?”
Do you? Do you know what happened to them?
“Does the US and the Western governments/societies even care the depths of this religious genocide they helped created?”
Again: ISIS is the result of Saddam’s and Assad’s policies. They empowered islamists as a trade-off to staying in power.
“ Do they understand the same will happen in Syria which is the only country that has Christian churches that still speak Aramaic, the ancient language that Jesus spoke unless they stop supporting islamic jihadists that are fighting to over throw and replace the secular government of Assad?”
Assad? Secular? LOL!!! Anyway, Stalin and Mao were secular – how did Christians fare under them? As for Assad:
https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/2884/assad-slaughtering-syrian-christians
“Do the Western governments and their societies aware they are being used as a tool to wipe out Christianity in the ME and beyond?”
Now you’re just contradicting yourself. You’ve stated, on numerous occasions, that Western governments intended to wipe out Christians in the Middle East. Why are you backing down now?
“Do they understand the divine karmaic consequences this will have on the Western world?”
“Karma” is not a biblical concept, and therefore not a Christian one. Why are you, an alleged devout Orthodox Christian, resorting to an un-Christian concept? Do you believe in karma? If so, how do you reconcile that with your supposed Christian religion?
Christianblood says
Angemon posted
(..“Karma” is not a biblical concept, and therefore not a Christian one. Why are you, an alleged devout Orthodox Christian, resorting to an un-Christian concept? Do you believe in karma?..)
The concept of karma or ‘reaping what one sows’ is also a christian concept and it is huge part of Christianity as well. Remember, the concept of the “Golden Rule” which is to ‘treat others as you would be treated’ is another version of karma which is very clearly stipulated in the Bible as the foundational moral teaching of Christianity as well as Judaism. Christianity teaches that there is a built-in-moral-principals in the universe and no one can escape from the consequences of continuous and intentional breaking of those moral principals. I could give you many scripture verses about it but I choose this one and it says: (..Do not be deceived: God cannot be mocked. Whatever a man sows, he will reap in return. The one who sows to please his flesh, from the flesh will reap destruction; but the one who sows to please the Spirit, from the Spirit will reap eternal life..) Galatians 6:7
Angemon, just as a man will reap what he sows so a nation will reap what it sows! (Gal 6:7)
Angemon says
Christianblood posted:
“The concept of karma or ‘reaping what one sows’ ”
No. Stop it. You have no idea what you’re talking about. Karma is the concept that what you do in your life will affect the life you have after reincarnation. The Bible rejects the concept of reincarnation. It’s an eternal afterlife, either in heaven or hell. Karma is NOT a Christian concept and it is certainly NOT a “huge part of Christianity” like you falsely claim. Better come up and admit you are not a Christian – your ignorance of basic Christian concepts is embarrassing, to say the least. Heck, I’m not a Christian, and I know more about Christianity than you.
Christianblood says
Angemon
You are right in saying that ‘karma’ is connected with reincarnation in Eastern religions but karma also means reaping you what you sow, not in some future reincarnation but in this present life and that is what Christianity teaches. When the Bible say “..Do not be deceived: God cannot be mocked. Whatever a man sows, he will reap in return..” that is a Christian karma which is, you reap what you sow in this present life.. Now, you are right, Christians may not call it karma but the moral concept is very strongly there. It is like the Golden Rule concept, which Buddhists and Hindus have but they don’t call it the “Golden Rule”. Even, in Eastern religions, bad karma results can be experienced by the individual in this present not only in a future reincarnation but in this present life. Look it up.
There is a lot of moral concepts that Eastern religions and Christianity, especially Orthodox Christianity share and one of them is reaching the Christhood. Look it up here:
Angemon says
Christianblood posted:
“Angemon
You are right in saying that ‘karma’ is connected with reincarnation in Eastern religions but karma also means reaping you what you sow”
No. It is not. Stop it. You were wrong then and you are wrong now. Karma is a concept in the religions of Hinduism and Buddhism, not in Christianity. “Reaping what you sow” is a different concept. Like I said, your lack of knowledge of Christianity is embarrassing. Just admit that you’re a poser. I doubt anyone will think less of you for it.
“that is a Christian karma”
No. It isn’t. Karma is not a Christian concept. Claiming that something is “karma” when, by definition, it is not and, doctrinally, could never be, is nothiong more than relativism. “Yes, karma is a thing, but this other completely different thing is also karma”. It’s even more egregious because you routinely rant against relativism – and yet, here you are, purveying relativism.
Have you no shame?
“Christians may not call it karma”
Christians don’t call it karma because it is NOT karma. You call it karma, therefore you are not a Christian.
“Even, in Eastern religions, bad karma results can be experienced by the individual in this present not only in a future reincarnation but in this present life. Look it up.”
Hinduism – karma is the concept that what you do in this life will determine what you will become after your reincarnation.
Buddhism – karma refers to intent, good or bad. The existence of intent is what makes you reincarnate, so the goal of Buddhism is to get rid of your karma so you can move on.
Jainism – karma is a physical substance (!).
BTW, why are you telling me to “look it up”? If you really knew what you are talking about you should be able to explain me, right?
“There is a lot of moral concepts that Eastern religions and Christianity, especially Orthodox Christianity share and one of them is reaching the Christhood.”
*sigh*
It’s like watching a slow-motion train wreck. It’s terrible but you just can’t look away. BTW, you’re forgetting that Putin stated that Orthodox Christianity is closer to islam than to Catholicism. Is the concept of “Christianhood” also an islamic concept?
Christianblood says
Angemon
The word “karma” is a word used by Eastern religions but the moral concept it carries exists in Christianity as well. Even in Eastern religions karma can be experienced not only in future reincarnations but in the present life as well. The conceptual moral principal is also present in Christianity and it means One reaps what they sow (Galatians 6:7). There are many, many spiritual and moral concepts that are known and are experienced across religions and the moral concept that one reaps what he sows does also exist in Christianity as well. It is up to you If you want to deny it
but that moral concept also is there in Christianity. Concerning to spiritual concept of “Christhood” it is a spiritual concept that is similar to “Buddha-hood”… In Orthodox Christianity there is an advanced spiritual path that is known “Theosis” and some call it “Christhood” and it is a mystical spiritual concept that many believe is the end goal of Christianity and that is becoming One with Christ or Christhood in this present life. It is also called God-realization or Divinization etc. God (Christ) became man so that man might become god!
Angemon says
Christianblood posted:
“Angemon
The word “karma” is a word used by Eastern religions”
It is used with a specific meaning.
“but the moral concept it carries exists in Christianity as well.”
No, it doesn’t. The Bible’s stance on reincarnation is clear: there is no such thing.
“Even in Eastern religions karma can be experienced not only in future reincarnations but in the present life as well.”
Which religions? You keep talking about “Eastern religions” but I gave you three specific examples where karma doesn’t mean what you claim it does. You have no idea what you’re talking about – that much is obvious.
“God (Christ) became man so that man might become god!”
Bravo, CB – you’ve just demonstrated you don’t know the most basic tenets of Christianity.
Avenger says
Angemon you’re a smart guy, would you help any Muslim nation that doesn’t have the knowledge or means to build a nuclear reactor the ability to have the technology and material to do so?
Yes, the USA definitely helped Pakistan build the bomb, even if we indirectly did so.
Angemon says
Avenger posted:
“Angemon you’re a smart guy, would you help any Muslim nation that doesn’t have the knowledge or means to build a nuclear reactor the ability to have the technology and material to do so?”
What I am *not* is a member of the American government in the 1950’s and 60’s. According to 2007’s “The Nuclear Jihadi”:
Going as late as 1978, the American government considered Pakistan to be incapable of developing a nuclear weapons program. And they were right, seeing how the Pakistanis had to steal data, and had China helping them all the way.
“Yes, the USA definitely helped Pakistan build the bomb, even if we indirectly did so.”
No, they didn’t. A nuclear energy program is not a nuclear weapons program. If you want to indirectly blame someone, Russia’s your man. They enabled a nuclear China who then enabled a nuclear Pakistan.
Christianblood says
Angemon posted
(..No, it doesn’t. The Bible’s stance on reincarnation is clear: there is no such thing..)
Angemon, you are wrong. You are assuming karma is only about future reincarnations in Eastern religion such Hinduism and Buddhism. The fact is that Eastern religions teach karma results can be experienced both in future reincarnations as well as in the present life. In Christianity the moral concept that ‘one reaps what they sow’ which is very similar to “karma” can be experienced in the present life and it can also have negative effects on the persons eternal life, especially if they don’t repent and change their ways. As I said, before, on the top, there are many, many transferable moral, theological, eschatological and spiritual concepts in all legitimate religions and there are huge (principal) similarities in moral and spiritual teachings while there can be differences in the basic details on how those top principals are arrived in each particular religion. I tend to focus on the top principal similarities while you are focusing on the basics of the nutty gritty details.
Angemon, As a Christian minister, I spent years on studying Christianity, especially Orthodox Christianity and ‘philosophy of religion’ and I know what I am talking about.
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Angemon says
Christianbloodposted:
“Angemon, you are wrong. You are assuming karma is only about future reincarnations in Eastern religion”
You keep using those words. How about you try to be a little more specific?
“such Hinduism and Buddhism.”
Yes. Those are Eastern religions who have the concept of karma in them. Religions that I named. You keep going on about how “Eastern religions” have karma and how karma doesn’t mean what it actually means. How about you *name* these alleged religions?
“The fact is that Eastern religions teach karma results can be experienced both in future reincarnations as well as in the present life.”
Like I said, the Eastern religions I named teach no such thing.
“ I tend to focus on the top principal similarities while you are focusing on the basics of the nutty gritty details. ”
You’re generalizing and engaging in moral relativism. I’m calling things as they are.
“Angemon, As a Christian minister, I spent years on studying Christianity, especially Orthodox Christianity and ‘philosophy of religion’ and I know what I am talking about.”
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! Nice one, troll! You? A Christian, let alone a minister?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!
Christianblood says
Angemon posted
(..BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! Nice one, troll! You? A Christian, let alone a minister? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!..)
Shame on you for sneering a servant of God that way! May the God I serve answer you!
Angemon says
Christianblood posted:
“Shame on you for sneering a servant of God that way!”
No, shame on you for trying to pass as a member of the clergy. Shame on you for using the suffering and death of innocents to advance a pernicious political agenda. And shame on you for enabling and defending islam.
gravenimage says
Avenger wrote:
Yes, the USA definitely helped Pakistan build the bomb, even if we indirectly did so.
……………………………
Avenger–with all respect–isn’t that rather like blaming a mugging victim for his assailant’s ability to buy drugs?
gravenimage says
“Christianblood” wrote:
Shame on you for sneering a servant of God that way! May the God I serve answer you!
……………………………..
Yeeeeesh! What God would that be? I cannot imagine a Christian minister calling on God to smite someone he has had a disagreement with in an internet forum.
But I suppose it should not surprise, given his demanding that God allow Muslims to conquer the West, and that God should get on that tout suite.
Funny, too, that “Christianblood” has never once mentioned that he is a minister here before in the course of his lengthy rants.
It is additionally odd, because he has many times implied that it is only Eastern Orthodox who are real Christians, and these churches do not, to my knowledge, have ministers at all. Perhaps he is a presbyter? So far as I know, that would be the only position in the church outside of the priesthood.
gravenimage says
Avenger wrote:
@Gravenimage
I’ll publish a book on how the USA and Saudi’s created and nurtured ISIS…
…………………………….
I’m sure I’ll be awaiting that landmark tome with bated breath…
Jude says
Amen
STEVE says
Dont be naive, we must remain just as strong and just as vocal as the infantile protesters. While acting cordial on the surface, bo and the pig have dusted off and activated their “emergency plan in the case the pig was not elected” and will allow the riots to proceed and will not say a word to calm them. Then, closer to 19 Dec, bo will encourage the ec to cast their ballots not for the pig or Trump, but for the person that will calm the nation before it erupts.That means of course the pig or bo himself or michael, the wife.Anything is possible with these two, they have already proven the depths to which they will sink to ruin this nation but keeping their wealth and positions intact. The delegates vote would never reach the house, if they change their votes, there will be enough to get the pig in the whitehouse sty. This election is NOT over by a long shot and Trump and the RNC need to make sure the ec does not change their votes and then after 20 Jan, get rid of that worthless process.
Steve says
Its not a worthless Process. It kept a lying, cheating, anti-american, felon named Clinton out of the White House.
Oliver says
I am no fan of Obama, however, HE HAS SAID A FEW TIMES–MR. TRUMP WON. HILLARY CLINTON LOST.
MR. TRUMP IS THE PRESIDENT ELECT.
He also said that Hillary Clinton has nobody to blame for her loss but herself.
I think- for the last months of his 8 years, Obama is trying to be -well, presidential.
thelastvirgingoat says
Deport them all to a Muslim country.
Richie says
many of the protestors are admitted Communsts and anarchists, many have burned American flags and expressed a visceral hatred of America solidarity with radical Islam. It’s a glimpse of how if Hillary had won she and her leftist supporters would have sided with the Jihadis against America
gravenimage says
Many of them are supporters of Jihad, as well. Quite a few “protesters”–really, rioters–wear Keffiyahas and support Hamas.
Jay Boo says
The compulsive liar Hillary says. — “Someone said”
Hateful Hillary is all about dividing people.
She ‘baits’ –with Race, Sexual Orientation, Gender, and Muslim Victimhood myth.
Kay says
Exactly. And all with a “smile.”
As one whose beautiful city is being targeted by these violent loons, supported by MoveOn which is still aiming to unseat Trump (is MoveOn also Soros?), I think it is the height of irresponsibility that Hillary and the current democratic leaders are not calling for an end to this violence.
Some of us are actually living in fear . . . of the lawlessness that is being foisted on us by these ridiculous politicians and their voices in the media.
carol says
Kay…yes, Soros funds MoveOn.org. The link below gives added information about him (there was a video also but it does not plug-in):
http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/george-soros-the-united-states-must-stop-resisting-the-orderly-decline-of-the-dollar-the-coming-global-currency-and-the-new-world-order
Oliver says
Move On IS A SOROS FUNDED GROUP.
Years ago, I was a member–(my political views have always been right wing; as a teen, I volunteered for Barry Goldwater). However, where I was living, Move On had several members with large homes, and more money then brains. They threw great parties- good booze; great food; all you can eat and drink. Never got to discuss politics. I quit after a few months.
Raja says
Jay,
Din’t Obama do the same to come to power and then to hold on to it? Jay, to me this is an old script of Dems and voters said enough is enough.
Jay Boo says
Yes, Raja Obama did some of the same tactics.
Even some Latino voters said, “¡Basta Ya!” enough is enough.
Tommy says
Snowflakes
Don McKellar says
Take a cup of genuinely dissappointed peaceful protestors
Add three tablespoons of Mainstream Media hype and distortion
One tablespoon of left-fascist “professors” sowing victimhood
One tablespoon of Hillary Clinton batwings and eye of newt
And the secret ingredients of tablespoons of George Soros, China, Saudi, and globalist money for disruptive professional protestors recruited from the internet
Sprinkle the whole thing generously with assorted anarchists, communists, and rabid left-fascists (many paid for by the above secret ingredients)
And bake for three to four nights without any word or action by the worst president in modern history and here we are!
don vito says
What a recipe. This is pure phobia, Trumpophobia. Straight from alinski. Dhimmicrats are picking the target, freezing it, then they’ll run on the Trumpopbia in 4 years
cs says
Gays should not be scared, they should be grateful:
nicu says
Fully agree ! many LBGT people voted for Trump !
gravenimage says
Very true.
Gary says
Sure. Billary plays on the fears of others to farther her position. What she’ll never tell you, (THE TRUTH), is that muslims place far too much emphasis on “THE PROPHET” and not enough on the Son of God:
“Hearing that Jesus had silenced the Sadducees, the Pharisees got together. One of them, an expert in the law, tested him with this question: “Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?” replied: “ ‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’ This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’ All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.” (Matthew 22:36-40)
billybob says
Don’t leave us with a cliffhanger. What answer were the Sadducees and the Pharisees expecting?
Pong says
”Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.”
This is the begining of the most common prayer, repeated 3 times a day by religious jews. This is what the jews attach to their doors. It called “SH’MAH” (listen).
Matthew 22:36-40 is one of the most laughable passages of The NT. To ask a jew a question, to which a 5 years old would know the answer, speaks volumes about the knowledge of the person asking a question and the pharisees were knowledgeable in the law.
For G-d inspired book it is not very convincing.
Laura says
Shema is actually translated as “Hear” – as in Shema, Israel – “Hear, oh Israel.”
carol says
Gary…the Muslim ‘religion’ has no right to put it’s lying, grubby little paws on “the son of God”.
dts says
This gay millennial broke out the good champagne after the victory – but is still worried about the non-legally bound electors and the sheer shrillness of the rest of his generation in opposition (who frustrate him blue in the face regularly).
Laura says
Welcome!
gravenimage says
Hear, hear, dts!
Sog says
I’m “Literally Shaking” that a failed presidential candidate is still looking a job with the globalist underlings (Soros and company) whom are at war with the worlds “nose to the grindstone” (AKA “stoners”) middle class. I love stoners and I want their ranks to double, then double again. So I guess I’m at war with the Globalists, their underlings, and their lackeys.
vladkoval says
I constantly monitor Arabic part of the Internet.
All YouTube videos about Trump in Arabic are full of cursations towards Trump.
And not only Trump: the choice of majority in America showed its ugly face, they say.
Very rarely I see some muslim (normally Syrian Assadite) supports Trump, but then hundreds of other muslims attack him with cursations.
That’s what I see in the Arabic Internet.
Muslims will never be happy until you let them in in crowds and let them impose on you their diabolic sharia.
don vito says
From your mouth to the peoples ears, lets hope the faint hearted retain a stout will, a braveheart, if you will.
somehistory says
Allowing moslims in when seeing how they are killing and raping and stealing everywhere else (and in the U.S. too), is like seeing the devastation by earthquakes in New Zealand today and saying, “What we need in this country is an earthquake. Shall we try for a 9.8 or a 10.2? And be sure to add at least 20 aftershocks of 4.5 and larger.
gravenimage says
Thanks for the information. This does not surprise.
Jay Boo says
Is Hillary a Muslim?
That would explain her pantsuit fetish.
somehistory says
If she’s worshipping and bowing to the beast, she may as well take the name.
Dexter L. Wilson says
FINAL ELECTION 2016 NUMBERS: TRUMP WON BOTH POPULAR ( 62.9 M -62.2 M ) AND ELECTORAL COLLEGE VOTES ( 306-232)…HEY CHANGE.ORG, SCRAP YOUR LOONY PETITION NOW!
Jay Boo says
Even if Hillary maintained the narrow popular vote it would be because Trump wisely spent time away in key swing states. Besides many Democrats vote twice and the corrupt (supposedly neutral) MSM tried but failed to steal the election with lies.
Oliver says
see Honest Reporting- Nov 13, 2016- excellent article on the Media (pertaining to Mr. Trump., politics and Israel.–Media distortions, etc.) Also see the comments.
Christianblood says
Dexter L. Wilson s posted
(..FINAL ELECTION 2016 NUMBERS: TRUMP WON BOTH POPULAR ( 62.9 M -62.2 M..)
Now that he won the presidency with a landslide, Donald Trump should be extremely careful of the infiltration of the neo-con/liberal interventionist globalist establishment alliance who are fervently dreaming to derail his common sense revolution in so many different ways. Donald Trump should send very a clear message by electing Steven Bannon as his chief of staff now and continue to enlist other outsiders into his cabinet. Newt Gingrich, is exceptionally, the smartest American politician alive and he must be given a big role and give Ruddy Juliany the attorney general post and Gen. Michael Flynn national security adviser post.
Oliver says
I agree- although I think a toss-up between Rudy G. and Christie for A. G.
The other should also get a high level position.
And I would pich Newt Gingrich for chief of state
tom parry says
GET DAN CARLIN IN!! OUT WITH THE ESTABLISHMENT
Angemon says
Speaking of Trump, CB, have you apologized to the American people you have repeatedly disparaged, insulted and collectively blamed?
vladkoval says
You are now #billion who asked a Russian troll a qustion, which will never be answered.
gravenimage says
So true…
Thomas says
This is a war for the soul of mankind. Never give up, and never give in! Everything is on the line…
Christianblood says
Thomas posted
(..This is a war for the soul of mankind. Never give up, and never give in! Everything is on the line..)
Indeed!
gravenimage says
Hear, hear, Thomas!
Jay Boo says
SIMPLE –Every Qur’an has TWO parts.
1 The Window Dressing part.
&
2 The Qur’an part.
Lib-Turds like Hillary fawn over Part 1 and dismiss Part 2.
Alarmed Pig Farmer says
Hillary, classy and selfless to the bitter end.
Oliver says
don’t you mean CLASSLESS AND SELFISH?
More appropriate for her.
gravenimage says
Oliver, APF was being sarcastic.
Oliver says
GI–sorry, did not realize that.
By the way, even Obama and to a lesser extent Sanders, are saying that she did it (losing) to herself.
(She spent more money in Arizona in the last 2 or so weeks then in Michigan and Wisc. And Trump took all 3; Arizona is usually a solid Rep. state-she was being egotistical.).
gravenimage says
This could be the case, Oliver. But all the campaigning in the world will not do it if a lot of people do not want to vote for you. This no doubt had a lot to do with strategy; but I think it also had to do with the message of the candidates.
And Alarmed Pig Farmer is a long time poster here with a wry sense of humor. He sometimes has a aversion to using the sarc tag.
American Pragmatism says
LGBT are second to Islamism to the far left. Which logically means at some point leftists are going to aupport killing of gays.
PRCS says
Gotta wonder when their new pals in the Muslim community will tell the LGBTQXYZ123 community that Big Al says they have to be killed.
Oliver says
What ( amongst other things) that I do not understand about Muslims/Islam.
1. Their hatred for gays-yet in Afghanistan the Muslim leaders have ” dancing boys”; and in Lebanon ( before the rise of hezbollah and the Balkanization of the country) there were shows with cross dressers, etc. (There was a story I read that Osama Bin Laden went to see one of these shows, as a young boy, and became disillusioned about something or other- ).
So, why the double standard?
OK for some, not for others?
underbed cat says
The mujadeen existed before Reagan….(soldiers of allah), we grew and supported them according to Hillary, and then she used the same methods to go after the Syrian Assad…with al queda or did she leave before then…at least I know she did realize the aftermath. But still the solutions elude us, but bringing sharia compliant refugees and stoking the fires at home will not solve anything…but it seems she is trying to derail Trump. Information about the methods and intent of spreading sharia needs to be known.
Raja says
Here is a Hillary-ious politoon.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JyEUuL9tkQY
Njoy…
Peter says
Clinton still can’t think straight. Gays should be “scared to death” of deadly Islamo-homophobia.
vladkoval says
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3928032/Huma-breaks-weeps-openly-returns-campaign-headquarters-aides-ran-doomed-bid-elect-Hillary-Clinton.html
Huma breaks down and weeps openly as she returns to campaign headquarters where she and her aides ran doomed bid to elect Hillary Clinton
Jack Diamond says
“It is unclear what Abedin, 40, will do now that her boss’s political career is over; she has never worked for anyone else.” Nope, she worked for al Qaeda’s Abdullah Omar Naseef a dozen years but why would the Daily Mail know about that (or report it)?
Those photos of crybaby Huma are classics, Starbuck’s should feature them in their next ad since she is promoting them: The Losers Weepers latte. Maybe it’s having to go from midtown Manhattan to Brooklyn makes her cry…or maybe she’s thinking about jail and not how she helped vanquish her BFF at all.
abad says
Gays should be scared of Huma Abedin and her presently intercepted plan to establish Sharia in the United States.
Just ask Anderson Cooper.
Walter Sieruk says
There is something to the semi-joke about the different t kind of negative kind of behavior of a Fundamentalist Baptist Christian male and the kind of behavior of a Fundamentalist Salafist Muslim male when they encounter, at different times, a homosexual man. For when a Fundamentalist Baptist Christian man meets a “gay” man, that type of Christian will say many very ignorant things to him and as a result of those ignorant things said that “gay” man will end up with a headache. In contrast, when a Fundamentalist Salafist Muslim man encounters a homosexual man, that type of Muslim will cut that “gay” man’s head off.
Resist says
Gays and the rest of us should be scared of who sponsored Obama and Hillary. So brainwashed they cannot see they are helping those who murder and rape and torture in the WHOLE world.
Richard Paulsen says
Strange that they do not want to tell the truth instead of denying realities.
Richard Paulsen says
Correction: Strange that they do not tell the truth. Instead they are denying realities.
Hugh Fitzgerald says
Nothing would become her (political) life like the leaving of it. Can’t she take a hint?
Oliver says
Sat & today, yahoo (jokingly) news had two (my view) diatribes by Clinton supporters.
The fist one (Sat.) BLAMED WHITE WOMEN FOR THE LOSS-AS THEY VOTED FOR TRUMP. He is ( as best i recall, as I laughed while reading most of it) a misogynist; bigot; woman molester; fraud; and a few other things.
ALL Hillery did wrong was the “stupid” emails and server. (I guess putting intelligence agents lives at stake; national security breeches; etc are unimportant-after all, ” what difference does it make”?).
Today’s diatribe, a bit more focused, Hillery has now “worked for the people” for 40 years, not for herself.
And, ” the election was not about her, but about women”.
Condi Rice might have been a good choice. Ferrara ( ran for VP as a Dem; Palin ( ran with McCain)-more honest than Clinton- and BOTH were destroyed by the media.
Clinton -my view- did not really win the nomination-she was handed it. Jim Webb, other potential candidates could not raise money; got no help from the DNC., Sanders was sabotaged ( although he would have lost by a bigger margin).
AND NOW THE DEMS ARE THINKING OF MAKING KEITH ELLISON THE HEAD OF THE DNC.
THAT SHOULD SCARE THE GAYS AND EVERYONE ELSE.
carol says
Oliver…I just read some interesting comments about Keith Ellison in Brigitte Gabriel’s book “They Must be Stopped”.
Gabriel says “momentum towards the Caliphate builds with every perceived success in overcoming Western civilization’s ideals, values, traditions or governments”. She describes author Aaron Klein’s interview with Sheikh Yasser Hamad, a leader of Hamas. It seems Ellison’s election meant a lot in fueling other radicals’ optimism. The Sheikh said, “This is proof of the spread of Islam, and that Islam will one day dominate. We believe that this process will become bigger, stronger, and larger.”
Ellison swore his oath of office on a KORAN – the same copy acquired by Thomas Jefferson in the 1700’s so he could study and understand the religion and principles of the Islamic pirates who were terrorizing ships at sea, and learn how to defeat them. Gabriel says highly sensitive positions at the Pentagon and other branches of government have been filled with Muslims about whose background and loyalties we know nothing.
Trump should consider this quote by Thomas Jefferson:
“I have sworn on the altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.”
Jack Diamond says
She can always go to QVC, give the people what they want:
http://www.stupid.com/hillary-clinton-toilet-paper.html
Allan says
Hateful
Hypocritical
Hillary
Trumps
Love.
Again.
garegin says
The reason LGBT are more concerned about impolite people like trump than people who wanna push them from roofs is because LGBT is more about being validated by society than actual rights. They have equal rights as anyone else and will under Trump.
They have no problems with opinion polls which show that most Muslims want ban gay marriage and some even gay sex.
It’s just good old fearmongering that Republicans want to oppress minorities and gays.
Cecilia Ellis says
“In a speech thanking her staff Friday night, Hillary Clinton said she has spoken to Americans who feel ‘scared’ in the wake of Donald Trump’s presidential victory.”
And I have spoken to Americans who have felt scared in the wakes of the 9/11 slaughter, the Boston Marathon bombing, the San Bernardino attack, the Orlando nightclub shootings, et al . . .
PRCS says
Of course, given the following, infamous tweet, she could never point that out:
“Let’s be clear: Islam is not our adversary. Muslims are peaceful and tolerant people and have nothing to do whatsoever with terrorism.”
Cecilia Ellis says
PRCS, good point. Then, there also was her response to the parents of the Benghazi parents, as presented by Charles Wood:
“I jokingly say I keep my brains in my pocket, and I write down the important things that happen each day. And I’ve been doing this for many years. What I have written down here, this is verbatim what was written down soon after she spoke it. Here it is: ‘I gave Hillary a hug and shook her hand, and she said we are going to have the film maker arrested who was responsible for the death of my son.'”
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/438657/hillary-clinton-benghazi-lies-pat-smith-charles-woods
gravenimage says
Just grotesque, Cecilia. Thanks for posting this.
carol says
guess no one’s told her that in war the moderates are irrelevant.
don vito says
Truly fearful actions, thoughts and words are not equivalent.
gravenimage says
So true, Cecilia.
Eric Jones says
Many of those protesting Trumps election are paid tp protest. They also call for death and harm to those who support Trump. This is incitement to violence not free speech. Right after Trump is sworn in something should be done to bring charges against George Soros and his minions.
Eric
Oliver says
Interesting, IN ISRAEL-LEFTISTS IN TEL AVIV WANTED TO HOLD A PROTEST RALLY ABOUT TRUMP.
BARELY, GOT 20 PEOPLE TO SHOW UP.
(and, it was peaceful)
Joe says
Nobody is scared. The rioters are paid trolls by Soros. The gays feel relief now that open borders are no issue anymore and they don’t have to be scared of Muslims killing gays.
The only one scared is Hillary. Her prison is waiting …
Oliver says
Hillary will never go to prison. Obama will give her a blanket pardon-to cover any and all crimes that she did or might have committed.
gerald
Like Andrew jackson did for Jean Lafitte; and Gerald Ford for President Nixon (more recent).
Pardon covers ALL crimes. And without being in the State Dept. or W. H.- I doubt that she would have much influence to peddle. And getting big bucks to make speeches is not illegal. Both george H. W. & George W Bush have done so, as well as Bill Clinton.
carol says
Oliver… thought I heard they had to be charged and/or convicted before there was a pardon?
Oliver says
Carol- As best I can remember, President Nixon WAS NEVER CHARGED WITH A CRIME. He was facing impeachment. So he resigned.
Pres. Gerald Ford, in his pardon, said something like ANY CRIMES THAT HE MIGHT HAVE COMMITTED.
Stan Lee says
Well, here’s Hillary Clinton being “presidential” as private citizen Clinton. Good for her! The President in the White House can only do things with “his telephone and pen!” People who are saying “Trump ought to tell them to stop,” fail to realize he’s a President-elect until Jan. 20, 2017. He can order no one to stop rioting as an authority of government until after he’s “sworn in.”
The duty to suppress rioters falls upon Pres. Obama, who talks like he’s an authority, but cannot bring himself to act like the President unless he’s on a TV show.
Beagle says
Hillary is validating the attack on Islam rhetoric which is the leading jihadist recruiting pitch. Helluva job, Huma. Your years of service to the mujahideen and ummah have not gone unnoticed.
citycat says
An inkling of the tone in Engeland regarding H Clinton. A song played for Her no the radio “you can’t always get what want”
ha ha, no jokes in Islam
David says
Who the hell cares if your “Gay” or not? Most folks I know couldn’t care LESS! It’s these numerous militant queer organizations that have made your personal CHOICES a political foot ball!
Like most ordinary citizens, I DON’T CARE! I DON’T NEED TO KNOW! I DON’T WANT TO KNOW!
I’ve NEVER made my personal preference a public issue! So! WHY ARE YOU? ???
One man’s sickening perversion is another man’s PERSONAL CHOICE.
And, unless YOU INSIST on making it an issue, who the hell cares?
So plesease folks, can’t we all just get along with each other?
Some of my best pals in life chose an “alternative life style”. They never made it an issue. And neither did I.
Oliver says
David, I agree.
About 40+ years ago, i worked with a fellow- who had women ( form teens to 70’s) drooling over him. He was gay. (I am straight). he fixed me up with those over 18, under 30. (We were both about 24 or 25 or so).
Then, my parents and I were in a horrific auto accident. And, my parents were moving from a four story about 2,000 sq ft home into a 2 bedroom condo half the size.
This fellow came over EVERY DAY after work, and all day on weekends, to help pack the house for my parents. (My father was still in the hospital, my mother at my sister’s, unable to work, due to surgery-for several months); I had a broken arm.
Her refused money, wouldn’t even let me reimburse him for gas.
I never cared that he was gay. ever flaunted it, nor mentioned it to anyone.
The same, I have acquaintances who are lesbians- doesnot bother me, nor do I care. Theyare over 18.
Why the “fear”?
Guest says
No one likes a sore loser Clinton.
vladkoval says
https://twitter.com/humaabedin
Huma Abedin’s last twit is of July 7th.
Why so?
Too confident that the victory already in her pocket? (since twitter accounts of statespeople are more just twitters)
davej says
Just prior to the vote the MSM was wringing it’s hands over the “deplorables” questioning the integrity of the election and possibly getting out their muskets if they lose.
Now they are refusing to graciously concede and encouraging anarchists to riot in the streets. Instead of urging acceptance and letting the new guy be given a fair chance they are whipping up hysteria with overblown statements like “in fear of their lives”.
Who is deplorable now?
Paul Clark says
To Walter Sieruk
My observation of Fundamental Baptist behavior towards Gays are not as negative as described. Overwhelmingly Protestants express an unappreciated view of Gay life style, but do not prescribe to rejecting them as unworthy people. “Hate your behavior, but I love you as a person” is what I have been hearing from most Protestants for many years. Of course I am sure, there are many who view conservative Christians as intolerant, haters because this is what they have been taught by the MSM and liberal institutions. Also it is likely that there is a handful of fundamentalist that will not accept Gays. Yet, this group is small in comparison to the liberal, hateful and racists thugs that promote this propaganda against the “privileged” whites, Christians and conservatives.
DHazard says
the real issue is who Trump nominates to replace the empty seat on the Supreme Court. If he chooses a Scalia clone then I can see more decisions placing “States Rights” above Human Rights. Since tis is likely, gays will face issues in many states and no issue in other states. Even the marriage issue may be revisited. Depending on the state, and if conservatives feel emboldened, there is even the possibility of sodomy laws being resurrected. Another easy one for a conservative Supreme Court is to recognize the rights of employers, landlords and businesses to discriminate against gays because the plaintiffs suddenly became devout Christians. An Easter/Christmas Christian (or Ramadan Muslim) who hates gays may find a receptive Court to support their personal disdain.
Wellington says
Get a grip, DHazard. Your comment verges on a screed. Your false dichotomy between “States Rights” versus “Human Rights” types you as just another leftie in hysterical mode.
As for the rest of your “comment,” it was downhill from there. And for the record, Scalia was a constitutional scholar who understood that words mean things and that the “living, breathing constitution” approach is nothing more than a carte blanche for justices to read into the Constitution anything they want to, for instance a difference between “free speech” and “hate speech,” which would destroy the First Amendment of any real meaning, and the additional bogus distinction between “the militia” and “the people,” which would rob the Second Amendment of all meaning.
Oh yeah, get a grip. And I say all this to you as the lawyer that I am. Done here.
Oliver says
Wellingotn, I agree.
And, as for the Christian who does not want to take pictures at a same sex wedding–is this the ONLY photographer in the town/county (or parish-if Louisiana)? The sameis true of a druggist who does not want to sell an item. Go to another store.
On many items, can order online. Fed Ex and UPS deliver to anyone with a street address.
The employer does not want to pay for some items(in insurance) that you want- consider another employer.
If employers are saying that if you are a Trump supporter ( this was after the election) consider tendering your resignation- stupid. But probably legal. (Some Online firm-food co. I think).
There is freedom of choice. People Can feel free to use it.
As for the rioters- they can easily move to canada or Europe. And the 2 dozen or so Hollywood people who said that they would leave the US if Mr Trump won–one said she ” was joking”, another said that she was “told by someone” that ” you have a message and have to deliver it, so stay”, and similar garbage.
They, also cannot live up to their words.
Beagle says
Yes. The real battleground is to what degree gay people may compel businesses outside the classic “common carrier” or “public accomodation” (bakers and photographers seem to be flashpoints) to violate their own religious beliefs. This is problematic because it compels someone to undertake an artistic or creative activity, not merely ring up a hotel room or deliver a package.
Practically speaking, businesses which are more amenable to providing those services to gay people will advertise it and reap the financial rewards. There is no widespread pattern of institutional refusal to make cupcakes for gay people.
Overwrought comparisons to the Jim Crow South are absurd and offensive.
Oliver says
Beagle–Jim Crow was MOSTLY IF NOT ALMOST ALL- Dems.
One of the most powerful KKK leaders was Sen. Byrd- WHOM HILLARY CLINTON REFERRED TO AS HER MENTOR.
Sanger, who founded Planned Parenthood was violently anti-black. She compared them ( and wanted them cut down like) noxious weeds. HRC said that she believed in PP and was honored to be awarded a Sanger medal. I was upset that Trump did not use these last two things (Byrd and Sanger) in ads targeted to blacks.
gravenimage says
With all respect, DHazard, this is just silly.
Mirren10 says
Clinton is **beyond** appalling. And these fools *still* wonder why Mr Trump won ? 🙂
gravenimage says
Here these Leftist creeps are even using children–teachers in schools in Berkeley were holding “emergency” sessions to quell kids’ fears of Trump harming them. These children would not even have such ridiculous fears if “adults” had not whipped them up.
Mirren10 says
I just read that some **university students** are asking their professors to delay their exams because they’re ‘fearful and traumatised’. 🙂
This is just *insane*. Has Obama condemned the rioting ?
gravenimage says
I haven’t heard any condemnation from Obama–nor would I expect to, Mirren.
More silliness in San Francisco, where otherwise (relatively) level-headed Mayor Ed Lee is holding a rally where he is reassuring everyone about how the city will survive Trump.
ECAW says
Mirren – I got your email but I don’t think you’re getting mine. How about setting up a dummy email address? GMX.COM require no id (phone etc).
Mirren10 says
Hi, ECAW, I got it and have sent a reply. I wouldn’t have the faintest idea how to set up another email address, I’d have to go to PC World. 🙂
Peggy says
According to Hillary it’s all Comey’s fault that she lost.
Wellington says
She just won’t go away. She should but she won’t.
Disgusting human being BUT here’s the good news: She won’t be the next President.
Jay Boo says
I just watched the movie “13 Hours”.
It is a good reminder of the dhimmi dip-wits in charge.
Just the fact that someone like Hillary could even run in the primaries let alone come close to the Presidency should be a warning that America is under attack by Muslims and their lackeys.
David says
Hillary is an evil bicth that was stopped! And now all of the troubler makers are rioting! In time vigilantes are going to come out and take of these ( cry babies)!!! These cry babies say (hate) is Trump. The (Hate) is them!!! Gangs of people need to go to the street and fight them!!! And people will see them run like rabbies………
jayell says
“Today, I heard from one of the people I met who lives in fear of her parents being deported and she’s scared to death that it’s going to happen,” Clinton said, according to Fast Company……
So why does this person think that her parents are they going to be deported? Is there a good reason why she should she think that? Have they done something wrong? Perhaps they shouldn’t legally be in the USA? Mr Trump has stated that he intends to get rid of up to maybe a couple of million of illegal immigrants, who are of course effectively trespassers. Trespassing is a crime. Since when has any responsible property owner/land owner/ government been expected to tolerate or condone trespass or any other criminal activity on their territory? Or when did trespasses or criminals get their sense of entitlement to exemption from the law of the land? Mr.Trump was merely speaking, quite properly, about legal deportation. This is correct procedure. Here in the UK famers are entitled to shoot at trespassers on their land.
don vito says
So true, if they are citizens of another nation, and they have no documents, they are illegal. Their fear is legit, how ever, that was their decision. They shouldn’t prosper from an illegal act.
rabrooks says
It’s obozo’s true legacy. Normalizing the extreme lawlessness of the dems and their followers. These people have been getting away with crime for so long that they now accept these criminal acts as America’s SOP.
If you are here illegally, you should be nervous! If you are a pislamic terrorist, you should be scared!
But I really wonder, why is it that in pislam, if a Christian, anywhere in the world, may commit or be accused of committing an offense against pislam or any mudslime, the muzzies can hold any Christian, anywhere in the world, accountable for the infraction and nothing is ever said!
At worst aren’t we simply carrying out their law?
Mockingjay says
We, the “islam-o-aware-folks” are CONSTANTLY accused of being “hysterical” and/or
irrational when it comes to the islamic threat – when now it is becoming VERY clear who the REAL hysteric and irrational folks are…
John Barry says
Hey Hillary! If a young person expresses her fears to you, you could respond with great compassion to the child, wether you believe it or not,to reassure her you will , (being the champion of women you are) make sure she will be fine. The fear mongers reside on the left. No personal compassion to anyone.
CogitoErgoSum says
I would be greatly concerned if it were Trump supporters marching in the streets spewing vitriol but that’s not what’s happening, is it? This tells me where the real threat lies and I am more confident than ever that the outcome of the election was the correct one.
gravenimage says
Exactly.
Compare these violent riots to the peaceful Tea Party protests after Obama was elected in 2008.
davej says
As far as gays go, as others have said, we don’t care, that’s your business and if you are determined to be scared you have a lot more to fear from Islam than any politician in the US.
The only thing I find annoying about gays (and now the “gender confused”) is their desire to be “special”, it’s almost like they took a page from the Muslim victimhood book. Its a cheap way of drawing attention to yourself while getting special rights.
My personal theory is that it is the pollution of our food and drinking water (also in plastics, toys, shampoos, etc) with estrogen-mimicking chemicals that is behind much of this. A similar gender confusion has been seen in fish, frogs and mammals, with lower sperm counts and androgynous sex organs.
Watch “The Disappearing Male” documentary, online at http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/the-disappearing-male/
Note that this feminization of males might explain some of the weak response of European men to the invasion of their countries by Muslim barbarians, who have likely been exposed to far less of these chemicals.
gravenimage says
There have always been homosexuals. This is not a new phenomenon.
davej says
True of course but this trendy, demanding and prevalent?. Gender confusion on the scale we are now seeing it IS a new phenomena, with children as young as 8 – 12 being “treated” for this condition.
IMO it is very likely that all the various human hormone mimicking substances (not just estrogen) that Science has introduced into the environment (including mother’s milk) over the last 50 years are having a physical effect on the following generation.
Peggy says
Very true. It was a big part of ancient Greek and Roman societies.
rabrooks says
Yes, the effects of our food system is questionable. But what we can be sure of is the centuries of inbreeding that the mudslime world has been happily engaged in, and it’s effects on the chromosomes of their people. That is terrifying to me.
Jay Boo says
Gays ABANDONED in Orlando
Hearsay Hillary,
A Muslim killed 49 gays.
He did it for Allah.
Yes, gays are — “scared to death.”
Hillary supporters bizarrely attempted to blame Christianity.
No wonder gays are — “scared to death.”
Gays ABANDONED by the Left
gravenimage says
Yes. Trump actually addressed the threat to gay people from Islam as exemplified by Orlando.
Mo says
Dear Hillary,
How can anyone miss you when you NEVER GO AWAY?
Sheesh!
Jay Boo says
If I saw an ungrateful Muzzie chasing her down the street with an Islamic cleaver, I would not even dial 911.
I would just (stand down) and pop some popcorn.
rabrooks says
I’d take bets on how far she can run before she falls and wacks her head on the ground again!
gravenimage says
Muslims would consider it great victory if they were able to take any Western leader down–I don’t want to see them emboldened.
gravenimage says
Hillary stokes riots, says Muslims, gays “scared to death” after election
……………………
Utterly appalling. Trump said he would act to protect gay people from more Muslim atrocities like Orlando. He is no threat to gay people–that Hillary is whipping this up is unconscionable.
Jay Boo says
Hillary is trying to hide her disgraceful behavior of defending Muslims after Orlando and trying to just move on with a new normal “What difference does it make” attitude.
gravenimage says
Yes, Jay Boo–utterly disgusting.
davej says
The gays don’t want to kill the Muslims (probably just wish, like most of us, that they would just go live in an Islamic country instead), but the Muslims definitely want to kill the gays and actually do.
So Trump is preferable on this issue, Hillary is in bed with the MB.
gravenimage says
Hear, hear!
citycat says
The Muslims must be laughing themselves to death on hearing how Muslims
“are scared to death”
Muslims are scared of Muslims and Allah
i would have thought Gays would be less targeted by Muslims than before.
The gays could keep it quiet like it used to be, not in one’s face in the high street or on the beach.
Teenagers blowing me kisses, i’m gonna lose it. I’ve already shouted at them-
“arse bandits everywhere, you can’t get away from them!”
They just stared. A girl laughed.
I doubt that Muslims would just stare, variable but you never know, could be chat, could be violence.
It might depend how far along the path of social/business jihad they are.
Muslims intend to rule, even if they go into hiding, that’d be hiding jihad.
And the madness grows.
Jay Boo says
Benghazi calling.
Pick up the phone Hillary.
Pick up the phone.
Pick up the phone……………………………………………..
rabrooks says
OF course she’ll push this! Remember the only thing that matters to her is her political advancement, at any cost! She will use anyone while she needs them, then when their usefulness is through, right under the bus.One ambassador and four security personnel in Benghazi. The ambassador was one of her “close friends”.
David M says
When is someone in law enforcement going to man up & tell us what’s in the 650,000 e-mails on Weiner’s laptop? You just know there is some sick stuff in there on what the Clinton’s have been getting up to.
bostongal912 says
Why is she starting crap? She knows damn well that women and gays have nothing to worry about! She’s loving the fact that there are protests going on! In stead of calming things down she’d rather gloat in the moment. She also knows that Trump isn’t going to start deporting anyone except illegal criminals and that is good thing! She needs to shut her fat mouth and go away for awhile. Everybody has had their fill of Hillary. She needs to keep a low profile unless she’s going to calm down these riots and we all know that’s not going to happen! I’ve had my fill of her for the rest of my life! Go away Hillary!!!
don vito says
gaslighting the nation. 50% fell for it. Stir up trumpophobia. Profit from it. That’s hillary.
duh swami says
You can’t buy authentic hysteria, but you can stir it up…This low grade woman could have been Perez…
What she deserves is a room at the Gitmo Hotel…
scherado says
LOCK HER UP!
scherado says
Gays “scared to death”????? Never mind that curiosity.
To Muslims who are “scared to death” about President Trump: When YOU do NOT take responsibility for the murderers within your “COMMUNITY”–a preposterous word, with obvious, semantic troubles–THEN someone else will step within the vacuum. Blame yourselves FIRST.
Mirren10 says
When are we going to hear from outgoing President Obama, condemning this rioting ?
gravenimage says
No one should be holding their breath…
Peggy says
The only thing Gays have to be scared of is Islam. But, if they fear Trump so much they are welcome to got to the ME and live happily ever after. Muslims are so much more receptive to homosexuality. Oops, too late, they are too old for those child molesters now.
UNCLE VLADDI says
Remember when that weasel debate moderator on FOX asked Trump (but NOT HILLARY) if he was willing to concede defeat in advance and go graciously and peacefully away into that good night?
Kepha says
Guys, I broke down and did it.
An innocent immigrant student asked me for the difference between Republicans and Democrats. I explained that when the Republicans lose an election, they go home and figure out how to win next time; when the Democrats lose an election, they trash a street, break windows, disrupt things…
Now, to Ms. Clinton’s friends who are so scared to death:
First of all, I don’t think any Muslims who abstain from jihad against the USA have anything to fear from Mr. Trump. He could probably care less if one’s womenfolk want to wear a babushka–oops, hijab–and will eat mutton, beef, or chicken only if it’s had its head pointed towards Mecca and its blood drained to a prayer. If he has business associates who are Muslim, he’ll probably wish them happy Eid. And he’ll probably promote a few who’ve been feeding the FBI tips on the bad actors.
As for the LGBTQ’s, don’t they know that Trump is one of the biggest social liberals to ever hijack the GOP? It’s one reason why a lot of us Evangelical rightists probably would’ve preferred marking a ballot for someone else from the GOP lineup. If I’d known that Trump’s chances in my deep indigo state were so slim, I wouldn’t have held my nose to vote for him, but would’ve written in Darrel Castle.
And, yes, someone above nailed us. We were against SSM because we hated the sin even if we may actually love the sinners who wanted it. We ourselves also wrestle with other sins. And if they scream that Paul declared homosexuals “worthy of death” at the end of Romans 1, they ought to note that it goes for the covetous, implaccable, and unmerciful among others as well (and Paul is reminding us all of where we stand without God’s saving work in Christ
As for the kid who’s scared his mother will be deported, here’s something about which I can speak from firsthand observation. I doubt there’s an immigration judge in these United States who would order the deportation of a natural born citizen child’s parents who are without status. Further, honey, if you’re so worried about your parents, FILE THE DINGBUSTED PAPERWORK FOR THEM TO IMMIGRATE AS ALIEN PARENTS OF A US CITIZEN the day after your 18th birthday!
As for denying citizenship to illegals’ “anchor babies”, that would require the Amendment of the Constitution, and the Founders deliberately made that a difficult job. Jus Solis citizenship was written into the Fourteenth Amendment, and was upheld by the Supreme Court on behalf of a member of a then-disliked minority in US v. Wong Kim Ark (1896–significantly, John Marshall Harlan dissented here, charging that the 14th Amdt. applied only to the freedmen). I suspect that Mr. Trump, in his briefings by various officials and advisors, has probably already found this out.
Since Mr. Trump has won, he has my prayers for hiss conversion and his guiding the ship of state well. Mrs. Clinton would’ve had the same, even if I would’ve been one of the people bothered, if not frightened, by her victory.
citycat says
You talk like God is taken for granted.
I don’t understand how one can love a God that one has not seen or heard, with the first experience of God being the hearing of the word God from someone, when one is like four years old, and does one’s perception of God then change as one ages?
I’m not being prejudiced. I don’t know why one should believe in God, especially as the religions all differ on God.
God created everything. God is in heaven. God is within. God is in the trees. God is in the water. God is in the heart. God is everywhere. Ok but WHAT is God?