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“I’m disappointed because Hillary Clinton is good for Pakistan and Muslims all over the world”

Nov 9, 2016 3:21 pm By Robert Spencer

This article is just one of the many Muslims-are-victims pieces to which the defeated mainstream media propagandists are treating us today. None of them contain any suggestions for containing or rolling back the jihad threat, or any recognition that people are suspicious of Islam because of jihad terror, not because of Donald Trump’s rhetoric.

“I am disappointed to see Donald Trump winning because Hillary Clinton is a good woman, she is good for Pakistan and Muslims all over the world.”

The problem is that what is good for the Islamic Republic of Pakistan is not necessarily good for free people, anywhere in the world.

weeping Muslims

“Americans have just screwed the world yet again’: Horror and fear strikes the Muslim world as Trump wins after months of anti-Islamic rhetoric,” by Gareth Davies, Mailonline, November 9, 2016:

Horror and fear swept through Muslim countries after Donald Trump was confirmed as President of the Unites States after months of anti-Islamic rhetoric.

The Republican made his most controversial remarks about Islam in December last year, sparking anger among the world’s 1.5billion followers of Islam when he called for a ban on Muslims entering the U.S. after a mass shooting in California.

Muslims across Asia were struggling this morning to accept the news the populist candidate will take office in the White House, saying that ISIS would be happy he won the presidency race.

‘Americans have just screwed the world yet again,’ said Syed Tashfin Chowdhury, a Bangladeshi who has several close friends in the US.

Thousands in the country watched in shock as the results rolled in and Facebook lit up with horrified reactions.

‘I’m very afraid, will there be more wars? Will America attack Muslim countries again?’ asked Indonesian activist Alijah Diete as Donald Trump edged closer to a shock victory in the US election….

Zuhairi Misrawi, an Islamic scholar from moderate Indonesian Islamic organisation Nahdlatul Ulama, reacted to the news by saying it would be seen as a powerplay for terrorists across the globe.

‘When the United States uses hard power, extremists gain a momentum,’ he said.

‘Those who will be the happiest when Trump wins are ISIS.’…

A teacher at a school in the United Arab Emirates told MailOnline when he broke the news of the result to his class, children told him they would never be able to go to America again.

He said: ‘It’s so sad. They are genuinely worried.

‘I didn’t think it would have this sort of affect.’

A senior Pakistani government official, speaking anonymously, called the news ‘absolutely atrocious and horrifying’ while others in the country also lamented the results.

‘I am disappointed to see Donald Trump winning because Hillary Clinton is a good woman, she is good for Pakistan and Muslims all over the world,’ said Ishaq Khan, 32, speaking at an Islamabad market.

‘She was talking about world peace – but Trump was talking about fighting against Muslims.’…

In Indonesia, the world’s most populous Muslim-majority country, there was growing nervousness about how the relationship with traditional ally the United States would shape up, and how a Trump presidency would affect relations between America and the Muslim world.

‘I am very concerned that the relationship between the US and Muslim countries will become tense again,’ said the female Muslim activist Diete, 47.

Nikken Suardini, who works for a law firm in the capital Jakarta, was concerned about the proposed Muslim ban, saying: ‘If he is elected president he will block Muslims from entering the US – well, that’s just not fair.’…

Tahir Ashrafi, a senior Pakistani government cleric, said: ‘We hope that Trump’s remarks against Muslims were only to boost his campaign and he will realise that Muslims are a large population in the U.S.’

A spokesman for Indonesian hardline group the Islamic Defenders’ Front said: ‘Muslims are foreigners to him.’

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  1. efoc says

    Nov 9, 2016 at 3:34 pm

    “Nikken Suardini, who works for a law firm in the capital Jakarta, was concerned about the proposed Muslim ban, saying: ‘If he is elected president he will block Muslims from entering the US – well, that’s just not fair.’…”

    The thing is, if you allow large groups of Muslims into your country, without vetting them properly, and one/two/heaps of them commit terrorist attacks and kill innocent Americans in the name of jihad, then that is way more unfair, and evil.

    And even if they don’t kill anyone but are part of that larger concentric Islamic circle that hates America, freedom of speech and the freedom of conscience, then again possessing these people in your country is unfair to the majority who are free-loving. It is also insane – hence why Trump pragmatism, reason and common sense has won him this election.

    • dumbledoresarmy says

      Nov 9, 2016 at 5:23 pm

      Yep.

      Got Muslims? Got Jihad.

      This statement, from this Pakistani Mohammedan, should convince everyone who voted for Trump, that voting for him was a very wise decision.

      Because anything good for evil Islamic Pakistan, and for Muslims all over the world, is BAD – very bad – for the world’s hapless Infidels.

      • Anne Smith says

        Nov 10, 2016 at 5:44 am

        Couldn’t agree more. Pakistan is a cesspit overflowing into the rest of the world with its disgusting versions of Islam, hatred of Christianity, hatred of women, sexual excess and rape, savage misogyny, poverty and total lack of educational progress in every field.

        Pakistan’s diaspora has caused trouble and poverty everywhere it is found. Hopefully Trump will start to save America from this dreadful “culture” and help to save the rest of us in Europe.

      • Nina says

        Nov 10, 2016 at 9:44 am

        Trump will protect us from terror attacks unlike the Muslim in the White House right now . And have spoken to an Iraqi Muslim who says his people have been slaughter since obama took office not just from isis but the other radicals there , and there is horrific Christian genocide all over the Middle East but in the last 2 weeks there been many Christians men women and children beheaded in Iraq! Obama caused and allowed this !! Under Bush these people were doing ok. And Europe is presently being destroyed with attacks and violence and rapes and dominance from Muslims, they culture is so different and the extremists can’t coexist , they force their ways on the country they move to. Just anyone in France, Germany, England , Australia, Sweden, Africa, India, turkey , Lebanon , Israel, Thailand, and even MN or Michigan or Maine or Wisconsin … where there’s large numbers of them and they are starting to be the majority in towns and becoming a no go zone (for others). I’ve talked to someone in India who said his people are always being attacked and killed and great cities and their cultural architecture was ruined both in the past and in the present . I’ve talk someone in Egypt who said the same thing there. Many attacks by Muslims. Their Koran doesn’t allow them to have peace. Tells them to concur anyone who isn’t Muslim. The Middle East is a huge region , so much land! They have plenty of room there. But Because of obama there is rampant violence From Isis and other radicals all over . It’s just sad!

        • tom parry says

          Nov 10, 2016 at 4:22 pm

          NINA wrong
          obama was raised in hawaii- he is not muslim but christian- save your lies for another website

        • 1reader says

          Nov 10, 2016 at 6:23 pm

          tom parry – Wrong. Obama Admits He Is A Muslim

        • gravenimage says

          Nov 10, 2016 at 7:36 pm

          tom parry wrote:

          NINA wrong
          obama was raised in hawaii- he is not muslim but christian- save your lies for another website
          ……………………….

          Obama spent much of his school years in Indonesia, before moving to live with his grandparents in Hawai’i as a teen. His father was Muslim, as was his step-father in Indonesia. He often accompanied his step father to the Mosque. He was registered as a Muslim in school, and attended Qur’an classes there.

          All of this is in his autobiography. It is unclear when he stopped practicing Islam formally–probably in his teens. But to imply that he was not heavily influenced by Islam during his formative years is just ahistorical.

      • Girish Jois says

        Nov 11, 2016 at 8:52 am

        Use Democracies to populate and when sizeable plant Shariah !!!

    • Stan Lee says

      Nov 9, 2016 at 8:19 pm

      What these people don’t understand is that they don’t get a free -pass, permanent invitation, to the USA because we have a Statue of Liberty in NY Harbor. The key word in her title is “Liberty” which Islam thinks applies to any impulse a Muslim has. These people have a track record of destructive scheming and lying which is no benefit to the USA, but rather a constant expectation that their roots always overcome their judgment to live at peace in a multi-cultural society. I doubt if they are capable of an Oath of Allegiance to this nation and all who are its citizens. Citizenship must not be a pact fraught with impulsive vile acts.
      Pakistan etc stay where you are, you haven’t the ability to live in responsible freedom.

      • Girish Jois says

        Nov 11, 2016 at 9:00 am

        Once a 25-30 % level has been breached, they begin showing their peaceful intentions; we in India understand it, over the last several centuries; millions were massacred and has gone unreported in the wide world ! They believe only in their ‘Ummah’ and Nationalities mean nothing for them !

    • f c king says

      Nov 10, 2016 at 2:43 am

      Very well stated, and true.

      Hopefully, President Trump will put the brakes on all non-vetted immigration from the Jihad zones.

      We do not need anymore of this type.

      Thank you.

  2. Angemon says

    Nov 9, 2016 at 3:36 pm

    Good – let them piss their pants, hunk down in a corner and pray allah for mercy.

    • miriamrove says

      Nov 9, 2016 at 4:01 pm

      First of all mulims kill more muslims than anyone else. Yes. It is about time someone is putting the fear of god in them at least for the next 4 years. I talked to my sister back home earlier to day and they s… in their pants. Which all good. I live in a small town in NJ and this morning people at the train station had tears because Clinton lost and made me even happier!!!m

      • vladkoval says

        Nov 9, 2016 at 4:24 pm

        “First of all mulims kill more muslims than anyone else”
        First of all, mulims kill other muslims for the lack of the latter of sticking to Sharia.
        And the latter is no less dangerous to the West than the former, because their lack of sticking to Sharia is still sticking to Sharia and Islam, naam ya maryamu

      • Angemon says

        Nov 9, 2016 at 4:25 pm

        In the news and social media I’m seeing many, many adult(ish) crybabies driven to borderline PTSD levels of anxiety because Hillary lost. Or because Trump won. Or because Hillary lost to Trump. Well, let them cry, moan, whine and throw their obligatory little, petty tantrum. Stupid, coddled millennials who have always been sheltered from dissident opinions need to earn that in the real world there are no safe spaces where they can go and eat cookies or watch videos of kitties every time something doesn’t go their way.

        All those Americans who are “shocked” and “disgusted”, who claim that the people who voted Trump – and America as a country – are “racist”, “misogynist”, “bigots”, “xenophobic”, etc., all those Americans who claim that they are ashamed of being American because Trump won should put their money where their mouths are and migrate somewhere else. Just not to my country, thank you very much.

        • gravenimage says

          Nov 10, 2016 at 7:43 pm

          In schools in Berkeley teachers were holding “emergency” group counseling sessions for children terrified by the Trump win.

          Of course this is ridiculous–why were these kids so afraid in the first place? Because some adults were willing to frighten them with a bogeyman. Using children in this way just disgusts me.

    • Baucent says

      Nov 10, 2016 at 5:20 am

      Exactly, all those prayers last Friday for a Hillary victory appear to have been missed by Allah.

      • Oliver says

        Nov 10, 2016 at 8:13 pm

        Last Sat. night, Mr. Trump’s (married) daughter and son-in-law went to the resting place of the last Lubavitch Rebbe (leader of an Orthodox Jewish group-with branches in about 125 or so countries). Perhaps they prayed for a Mr. Trump/Gov. Pence victory- and G-d listened to them, and He overrules satan aka Allah.

        or, maybe just people are intelligent.

        Looking at the states that Clinton won ( excluding Cal & Md.) most were close.

        • Oliver says

          Nov 10, 2016 at 8:14 pm

          In Cal-I would think that there were probably a large number of illegals voting for Clinton.

          (I did not check all of the states that she carried-just some of them).

  3. vladkoval says

    Nov 9, 2016 at 3:42 pm

    “made his most controversial remarks about Islam in December last year”
    The whole day before the Elections I was watching the channels Al-Jazeera in Arabic, Al-Arabiya etc – the most watched channels in the muslim world. The whole day they were broadcasting the moments of Donald Trump’s speeches against muslims, like reminding: “look, he is dangerous for us!”

    Now they have a real butthurt. And it’s just a beginning.

    • Oliver says

      Nov 9, 2016 at 9:02 pm

      hey- they were just doing what the lame stream media does–takes a few words out of context-.

      I saw several headlines of what Trump said ( during the primaries and then the election season)- Trump looked like an idiot . Then i saw videos of the ENTIRE SPEECH-made a great deal of sense. Headlines took a portion of a sentence-without the qualifiers or the context of the speech.

      • gravenimage says

        Nov 10, 2016 at 7:56 pm

        And many of the headlines here have been just hysterical–and I mean that in both senses of the term. Metro has “How to Survive the Next Four Years”. The New York Times has “After Vote, a Land Tinged with Racial Hostility”.

        Others include “House of Horrors”, “W.T.F.”, “Oh My God”, “FUUUCK”, and “D’oh” (Yes, these are all real headlines).

        • Oliver says

          Nov 10, 2016 at 8:18 pm

          I would have thought that those headlines would have been appropriate for this country if Clinton won.

          In my opinion, IF BILL CLINTON WAS RUNNING, IN 2016- ON WHAT HE RAN ON WHEN HE WON-
          2 THINGS.

          1. HE WOULD NOT HAVE GOTTEN THE DEM. NOMINATION–TOO FAR TO THE RIGHT.

          2. IF HE DID GET IT, THE DEMS WOULD HAVE NOT VOTED FOR HIM IN DROVES- TOO FAR TO THE RIGHT.

          Just my views. (Incidentally, if Barry Goldwater were alive and ran in 2016- many ” social conservatives” wouldn’t vote for him- too far to the left– he wanted the government out of the bedrooms of consenting adults).

  4. Shmooviyet says

    Nov 9, 2016 at 3:45 pm

    “Horror and fear swept through muslim countries…”
    And it’s been so peaceful and quiet all of these centuries, darn it.

    • Westman says

      Nov 9, 2016 at 3:47 pm

      LOL!

    • gravenimage says

      Nov 9, 2016 at 3:58 pm

      Hilarious!

    • Oliver says

      Nov 10, 2016 at 8:22 pm

      Perhaps, they can go on a rampage, and kill other (Muslims) in their own countries- to take out their frustrations.

      Pakistan and Bangladesh , Indonesia and Iran ( to name 4) probably have too many people, and a good civil war in these countries could ease their food and housing issues. (For Iran, they could include Hezbollah in their civil war).

      I would think that sheep and goats would rejoice.

  5. Westman says

    Nov 9, 2016 at 3:46 pm

    ‘Americans have just screwed the world yet again,’ said Syed Tashfin Chowdhury, a Bangladeshi who has several close friends in the US.

    Wait a minute….the all-powerful Allah let this happen so.. ALLAH “screwed the world yet again”. When are you folks going to realize Allah was never there? The Japanese left their “god” behind and became a powerful, educated, respected nation.

    When will the ME rise to greatness, not in choping heads or warfare, but in intellectual and industrial achievements? The ME has the brains at infancy and then feeds them ancient mythology that precludes discovery and development – bida(the real key to greatness). No, we don’t want that anti-bida here.

    • gravenimage says

      Nov 9, 2016 at 4:01 pm

      ‘Americans have just screwed the world yet again,’ said Syed Tashfin Chowdhury, a Bangladeshi who has several close friends in the US.
      …………………..

      Yeah–not allowing in Muslims to slaughter Americas. Oh, the humanity!

    • Salome says

      Nov 10, 2016 at 4:24 am

      Indeed, it is the will of Allah!

  6. Cretius says

    Nov 9, 2016 at 3:49 pm

    Islamophobia is a trumped-up term designed to further an agenda, as indicated by Abdur-Rahman Muhammad, a former member of the International Institute for Islamic Thought, who was there at the inception of the term. This loathsome term is nothing more than a thought-terminating cliché conceived in the bowels of Mohammedan think tanks for the purpose of beating down critics.

    It is sad and a real danger that western leaders and the mainstream media have bought into this canard.
    Worldwide intelligence services estimate that radical Islamists form 15% to 25% of Islam. Those 300 million+ Mohammedans constitute a real threat to the survival of western democracies, cultures and religions. Add to that the fact that holy war to advance Islam is a core teaching of Islam. In addition approximately 80% of Mohammedans support the concept of holy war against non-believers.

    The leaders of the western democracies and their leftist mainstream media have demonstrated an appalling ignorance of the bigoted teachings of Islam and it’s aggressive and bloody 1,400 year history of attacking and eradicating non-believers. Islam conquers through warfare. Islam makes no accommodation and it is against their belief system to assimilate. Islam encourages deception and lies to further their worldwide aim of eradicating democracies, non-believers and other cultures. There can be no accommodation of Islam or Islamic law.

    History has taught us that aggressive Islam can only be rolled back by military action. Mohammedans are taught that ALL non- Mohammedan property including your person, is war booty to be claimed by Mohammedans. This is why there is a rape culture now in Europe and why Mohammedans are prominent in Western crime figures.

  7. don vito says

    Nov 9, 2016 at 3:52 pm

    If moslems had only treated the good ole USA better, and not attacked the USA, and not murder Americans, and not set off bombs at American embassies, not invade and occupy American embassy, not torture and terrorize Americans and Jews, Christians, Hindus, Buddhists, and other nonmoslems. If moslems had not come to the good ole USA to dominate, and not assimilate. If moslems had given more donations to the Clinton Foundation, Clinton Global Initiative, hired big bill clinton and Missy hillary to give secret speeches, then Hillary would’ve won.

  8. JawsV says

    Nov 9, 2016 at 3:54 pm

    Ah boo-hoo! Guess what? I couldn’t care less about Moslems, Islam and Pak! Plagues on the world.

    Bravo Trump!

  9. vladkoval says

    Nov 9, 2016 at 3:55 pm

    “We hope that Trump’s remarks against Muslims were only to boost his campaign”
    Leave that hope, mohameddans, leave that hope.

  10. gravenimage says

    Nov 9, 2016 at 3:56 pm

    “I’m disappointed because Hillary Clinton is good for Pakistan and Muslims all over the world”

    Muslims across Asia were struggling this morning to accept the news the populist candidate will take office in the White House, saying that ISIS would be happy he won the presidency race.
    …………………………………

    Nope; sorry–it’s clear that Muslims all over the world are lamenting Trump having won–the disgusting Saudis and Pakistanis, the Muslim Brotherhood, the sanguinary Mullahs of Iran.

    More:

    The Republican made his most controversial remarks about Islam in December last year, sparking anger among the world’s 1.5billion followers of Islam when he called for a ban on Muslims entering the U.S. after a mass shooting in California…

    Nikken Suardini, who works for a law firm in the capital Jakarta, was concerned about the proposed Muslim ban, saying: ‘If he is elected president he will block Muslims from entering the US – well, that’s just not fair.’…
    …………………………………

    Of course not–Muslims have the Allah-given right to come to America and slaughter Infidels here. It’s just not fair that someone might disagree…

    • Westman says

      Nov 9, 2016 at 4:13 pm

      Well done Graven.

      Def Islam – see entitlement.

      • gravenimage says

        Nov 9, 2016 at 7:30 pm

        Hi, Westman. 🙂

  11. Ciudadano says

    Nov 9, 2016 at 4:07 pm

    Are these whinning muslims the same who were cheering up in 9/11?

  12. dwight hogg says

    Nov 9, 2016 at 4:08 pm

    The Huma Abedin infiltrator at Hillary’s side is no longer a threat – this is the real victory. And now Iran will not be able to become a nuclear terrorist state as it has planned all along. Islamaphobia is not only a term to shut down free speech but a reality – it means fear of Islam and of course there is fear of Islam – there is a tsunami of hatred, violence and slaughter throughout the world and it is coming from only one place – Islam.

  13. JERRY A JANSEN says

    Nov 9, 2016 at 4:10 pm

    And yet these very same muslims will not condemn violence against non-muslims by islamic radicals. And they might even do an personal high five to themselves thinking “YES, YES, YES!!!”

  14. Dom107 says

    Nov 9, 2016 at 4:14 pm

    Its all laughable isn’t it ?These buggers want to have their cake and eat it or in the words of the former politician Hillary Clinton “they want to look both ways”

    Now they must become civilized and/or an ex or the good life of the USA will not be theirs !!
    Still, they can think of those 72 virgins achievable by blowing up themselves and their own kind !!!!!
    Win Win result for us !!!!

    • Tom says

      Nov 10, 2016 at 8:16 am

      It’s not 72 virgins it a 72 year old virgin

      • gravenimage says

        Nov 10, 2016 at 7:59 pm

        I’ve also heard 72 Virginians.

  15. Jack Diamond says

    Nov 9, 2016 at 4:55 pm

    “Horror and fear strikes the Muslim world as Trump wins .” At least something strikes horror and fear into the Muslim world, good job Mr. President.

    Remember, they are at your throats or at your feet, Mr. President. And remember the sage advice of Pakistani journalist Ansar Abbasi, speaking to Judith McHale of the State Department in 2009, “you should know that we hate all Americans. From the bottom of our souls we hate you.”

    Tashfeen Malick came to San Bernardino to say something similar.

  16. Beagle says

    Nov 9, 2016 at 5:12 pm

    There is literally nothing which does not spark anger in the Muslim community. All 1.5 quadrillion Muslims have the emotional stability of a four year old after her Halloween is stolen.

    • Oliver says

      Nov 10, 2016 at 8:26 pm

      Beagle, I resent that remark. I have friends with children right around 4- a few a little older, and 1 not yet three.

      THESE CHILDREN BEHAVE MUCH BETTER AND HAVE MORE EMOTIONAL STABILITY then the Muslims.

      In my view, you owe an apology to 4 year olds.

  17. 1reader says

    Nov 9, 2016 at 5:14 pm

    First of all, it was the Bush/ Clinton Crime Syndicate that caused the bombing and destruction of Muslim countries. The people of the US did not support those wars. We supported our troops and that is different. Thousands of us protested in the streets not to go to Iraq and they went ahead and did what they wanted to anyway. Hillary nearly single-handedly caused the brutal murder of Libyan Muslim leader, Kaddafi! How could any Muslim support her??..Unless their goal is destruction of western civilization which is also Hillary’s goal.

    • gravenimage says

      Nov 9, 2016 at 7:27 pm

      1reader wrote:

      First of all, it was the Bush/ Clinton Crime Syndicate that caused the bombing and destruction of Muslim countries…
      ……………………

      This poster has claimed this before–that offering Muslims a chance at freedom and democracy is “destroying” them. We know what *his* values are…

      • 1reader says

        Nov 9, 2016 at 11:23 pm

        What? “This poster has claimed this before–that offering Muslims a chance at freedom and democracy is “destroying” them. We know what *his* values are…”

        I do not know what you are talking about. I don’t like Islam as I do not like Satan. I don’t think democracy is appropriate and they don’t want it so why does Hillary and people like that push it on them. Gaddafi was going to fix his county’s and continent’s problems without the help of democracies, using his own gold that Hillary stole. Leave them alone in their sht holes. I referred in my post to protesting the Iraq war, are you one of those people who was telling war protesters that we were unpatriotic?

        • gravenimage says

          Nov 9, 2016 at 11:45 pm

          are you one of those people who was telling war protesters that we were unpatriotic?
          …………………..

          No, I’m not. In fact, I consider going into Iraq and staying in Afghanistan and trying to turn these Islamic sh*tholes into functioning democracies a *serious* mistake–one on which we have wasted far too much blood and treasure.

          But saying that the West caused the “destruction of Muslim countries”–places that were unfree tyrannies–is just calumny.

        • gravenimage says

          Nov 9, 2016 at 11:47 pm

          And Gaddafi wasn’t going to “fix” anything except waging more Jihad on the West. Remember Lockerbie? That what replaced him is even worse–and it is–does not suddenly make him a civilized statesman.

      • 1reader says

        Nov 10, 2016 at 12:10 am

        Gaddafi claimed that he did not do Lockerbie, that he was set up. He apologized to make peace. He may not have been what we would want, but he was good to the good citizens of Libya. He was actually involved in liberating Africa and creating its own gold backed currency. Rothschilds, Hillary’s Master’s, could not allow this and HRC nearly single handedly had Gaddafi murdered and the country bombed “for humanitarian reasons.” From what I hear from people who lived in Syria, it also used to be a great place until – again, Hillary’s handlers decided that war was important in Syria and have turned it into ‘murder central’ for Christians. I could go on. Wikileaks revealed that Hillary’s Saudi friends are financing ISIS. Muslim countries may have been unfree tyrannies before we arrived, but all the war that has been waged in these countries has made the situation infinitely worse and now, just as Gaddafi predicted, Europe has turned black.

        • gravenimage says

          Nov 10, 2016 at 12:28 am

          Gaddafi claimed that he did not do Lockerbie, that he was set up.
          ……………………

          Right–that’s why the Lockerbie Bomber was given a hero’s welcome when he was released there.

          More:

          From what I hear from people who lived in Syria, it also used to be a great place
          ……………………

          No, Syria was a dangerous Islamic crap hole where life was dangerous for Christians and apostates and any stray secularists.

          But now it is even worse, with out-and-out genocide where the Islamic State has made inroads.

          There are worse than Gaddafi and Assad–that does not make them Lincoln and Churchill.

        • linnte says

          Nov 10, 2016 at 12:52 am

          GI, I am reading “A God Who Hates” by Wafa Sultan right now. It’s a simply written book, but really explains exactly what you said. Syria was and is a hell hole! It never has been Secular, like what I had been told by many Muslim Facebook friends from there, before I started to learn about Islam. (Once my eyes were opened about Islam, I unfriended them- nearly 100 total, because I didn’t want to be hindered about talking about Islam on Facebook).

          Just goes to show…..never trust a Muslim, especially if they say you are their friend! Hahahahahah!

        • gravenimage says

          Nov 10, 2016 at 8:09 pm

          True, Linnte. I love Wafa Sultan–here is my “Heroes Against Jihad” tribute to her:

          http://s478.photobucket.com/user/gravenimageartist/media/JWHWS-1.jpg.html?sort=3&o=9

          1reader is right, though, that things there have become even worse.

        • linnte says

          Nov 10, 2016 at 8:26 pm

          Excellent drawing! Wow! She is a hero. And I plan to share her book with as many folks as possible. Appreciate you GI!

          And it just dawned on me why you call yourself that! You’re an ARTIST! Hahahah! Man I can be thick as a brick sometimes ?

      • 1reader says

        Nov 10, 2016 at 1:00 am

        What I know about – how Syria used to be – was from my Jewish doctor who grew up there.

        • Oliver says

          Nov 10, 2016 at 8:36 pm

          One of my friends, a deeply religious Jewish man, used to work with a deeply religious man from Syria ( before the Civil War there). The Syrian was pro-Israel in many areas- (including, in his view- as told to me- Israel keeping the Golan Heights).

          He left Syria to get an education, and never discussed religion.

          Just, that he ( the man from Syria) felt that Israel was a better country than Syria, and that Assad should have stopped his belligerence and made a peace treaty- to make Syria less of a hellhole.

          (My friend relocated after changing employment positions, and as far as I know, lost contact with his former co-worker).

        • gravenimage says

          Nov 10, 2016 at 8:49 pm

          1reader, if you go back in the Jihad Watch archives you can find all sorts of savagery in Syria even before the “Arab Spring”. I was not as bad as in some places, but that *hardly* made it a “great place”.

          As for Jews, they had been steadily leaving Syria for decades due to violence there–this got much worse after the the founding of Israel.

          In 1992, almost the entire remaining Jewish community in Syria–4000 Damascene Jews–fled, most moving to the US or France (they were specifically barred from going to Israel).

          The remaining Jewish population at that point? Nine. Yes, that would *nine* people.

          I do not doubt that your doctor–whenever it was that his family fled Syria–has fond memories of where he grew up. Many people do, whatever the circumstances.

          But Syria has been dangerous for Infidels–Jews, especially–for a very long time. These figures, in fact, prove that. Syria has been close to Judenrein for quite some time now.

        • gravenimage says

          Nov 10, 2016 at 8:54 pm

          Sorry for the typos.

        • 1reader says

          Nov 10, 2016 at 9:31 pm

          My doctor, a woman, is probably in her early 40’s. I am guessing she left in the early 90’s. I got the impression that her neighborhood was a nice experience growing up, but that there were problems and it got so bad they had to leave. It was a very brief convo,, but she told me it became absolutely unsafe for the Jewish people and that made her sad because of the good memories she had. I will look into this more as it is so important to all of us. I would not want to be one of those 9 people left! Why didn’t Israel take in the Jewish people from Syria?

        • gravenimage says

          Nov 10, 2016 at 9:48 pm

          Hi, 1reader. Your doctor probably left in 1992.

          Israel has been open to receiving Syrian Jews for decades now, and in fact has the largest population of Syrian Jews (second largest, almost as large, is in the US).

          Assad–Bashir Assad’s father–only let the Damascus Jews go in 1992 on the condition that they not leave directly for Israel.

          As for the nine left, I don’t know their circumstances. There are some people who will *never* leave, no matter how bad things get. For instance, for many years there was a *single* Jew left in all of Afghanistan, in Kabul. He somehow was able to survive the Taliban years, and may well still be there.

  18. Carmel says

    Nov 9, 2016 at 5:59 pm

    You can have her in Pakistan any time. No problemo .

  19. Guest says

    Nov 9, 2016 at 6:04 pm

    They are afraid. Good sign

  20. JawsV says

    Nov 9, 2016 at 6:10 pm

    Since when were we supposed to care about Muslims? Muslims did not figure in my life in any way whatsoever until – September 11, 2001. And now we’re expected to boo-hoo and blubber over them. Utter insanity.

  21. abad says

    Nov 9, 2016 at 6:17 pm

    Muslims.

    Considering how often they kill off each other – their behaviour displeases God VERY much.

    And Muslims do NOT worship God they worship Satan – all the evil and filth Satan likes to revel in: bloodshed, pedophilia, bodily filth (since Islam strictly forbids the use of soap and water, not to mention deodorant and toothpaste) – they need to stay in their own third world nations and stay FAR away from the United States.

  22. tjhawk says

    Nov 9, 2016 at 6:19 pm

    Waah waah waah waah sob sob sob sob waah waah waah waah sob sob sob sob

  23. Yorkshire Kufir says

    Nov 9, 2016 at 7:16 pm

    Muslims always cry injustice when the world doesn’t work the way they want it to and there isn’t a kufir nearby to kill and the wife isn’t nearby for a beating. Oh i forgot, they’d do that any way.

  24. billybob says

    Nov 9, 2016 at 8:15 pm

    Does the election of Trump mean there will be an end to the fake “tradition” of Iftar Dinners at the Whitehouse? I think so! Will Donald Trump go around saying that Islam is a religion of peace? I really doubt it! Will Trump ever say that the future must not belong to those who slander the prophet of islam? Never! Yea!

    • gravenimage says

      Nov 10, 2016 at 9:02 pm

      billybob wrote:

      Does the election of Trump mean there will be an end to the fake “tradition” of Iftar Dinners at the Whitehouse?
      ………………….

      Alas, billybob, probably not:

      “Trump Open to Celebrating Ramadan at White House”

      http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-open-celebrating-ramadan-white-house-keeping-pride/story?id=40025020

      I think things *will* improve under Trump, but it is well to remember two things–firstly, Trump himself, while his instincts seem good, is not that knowledgeable about Islam. He solidly opposes violent Jihad–a *very* good thing–but appears to be vaguer in his understanding of things like stealth Jihad and creeping Shari’ah.

      The other thing is that even if he were supremely knowledgeable about Islam, he probably would not be able to change everything at once–that is just political reality.

      What we want is momentum, and not to continue to lose ground.

      • dumbledoresarmy says

        Nov 11, 2016 at 8:13 am

        There is nothing, nothing whatever to stop sensible American jihadwatchers from *writing* to Trump and his staff, to insist that this business of an ‘Iftar’ dinner at the White HOuse must stop. And explaining about Stealh Jihad, Sharia Creep. Point him to ex-Muslim Sam Solomon’s book “Al HIjra: the Islamic Doctrine of Immigration”. Encourage him to speak to the *apostates* from Islam. I And indeed, instead of merely cancelling the ‘iftar’ dinner, he should do something radically different: sometime after his inauguration, and not too long after, Mr Trump should invite a group of famous apostates and critics of Islam, to the White House, for a private dinner, and to offer him a professional ‘background briefing’. Bosch Fawstin; Ayaan Hirsi Ali; ‘Sam Solomon’; Wafa Sultan; Ibn Warraq; Nonie Darwish, and little Rifqa Bary. Hey, he could even invite Magdi Cristiano Allam, and fly him over from Italy (Magdi would be useful not only for analysis of Islam but also for insight into the parlous mess that Europe is in because of Muslim immigration and concessions made to Muslims). Some are now Christians, some are now atheists, but all are smart, and witty, and retain NO illusions whatsoever about Islam. He doesn’t need to read their books… he will be in a position to consult *them*, face to face. It would be a stellar gathering of brave, brilliant people, and I think he’d enjoy their company.

        At least put that idea directly to him (which means, to his staff). To hold a dinner for well-known and feisty apostates would be to go on the offensive, well and truly; to make it plain that those who *leave* Islam, those who *criticise* Islam, are welcome, and will be protected and encouraged.

        • linnte says

          Nov 11, 2016 at 6:25 pm

          Great idea! That’s why you da General. ?

  25. linnte says

    Nov 9, 2016 at 9:15 pm

    Why does all this “fear rhetoric” from Muslims make me happy? HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHA hahahahahah! I say TOUGH DOO DOO!

  26. sidney penny says

    Nov 9, 2016 at 11:37 pm

    “I am disappointed to see Donald Trump winning because Hillary Clinton is a good woman, she is good for Pakistan and Muslims all over the world.”

    Yes ,t what is good for the Islamic Republic of Pakistan is not necessarily good for free people, anywhere in the world.,including India ( one of the world’s worst sufferers under Islam)

  27. 1reader says

    Nov 10, 2016 at 12:42 am

    The Lockerbie bombings, the Lies & misinformation.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyGMF9zDBQE

    Ex-CIA agent: Lockerbie Inside Story

    • gravenimage says

      Nov 10, 2016 at 9:23 pm

      Ah, yes, 1reader–Gaddafi was just pursuing the gold standard, and some bullies accused him of Jihad out of the blue…sarc/off

      “Colonel Gaddafi ‘ordered Lockerbie bombing'”

      http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-south-scotland-12552587

      “Libya’s Gaddafi urges jihad against Switzerland”

      http://vladtepesblog.com/2010/02/25/libyas-gaddafi-urges-jihad-against-switzerland/

      Lots more disturbing stuff from Gaddafi:

      “Gaddafi: ‘We await the day when Turkey joins the European Union to serve as a Trojan horse’”

      https://www.jihadwatch.org/2010/06/gaddafi-we-await-the-day-when-turkey-joins-the-european-union-to-serve-as-a-trojan-horse

      “Gaddafi has a bright idea: ‘Islam should become the religion of all of Europe’”

      https://www.jihadwatch.org/2010/08/gaddafi-has-a-bright-idea-islam-should-become-the-religion-of-all-of-europe

      “Gaddafi tortured sex slaves under Tony Blair’s clueless nose”

      https://www.jihadwatch.org/2013/07/gaddafi-tortured-sex-slaves-under-tony-blairs-clueless-nose

      As noted, what has taken over from Gaddafi is likely *even worse*–but the idea that Gaddafi was a champion of democracy and Anti-Jihad until smeared by
      ol’ meanies who didn’t like the idea of Libya adopting the gold standard is, with all respect, just silly.

  28. joel tompkins says

    Nov 10, 2016 at 3:09 am

    If you people could just come to America and live by the laws of this land and not insist on sharia law or demand everything like we owe you anything . How would it be if a huge number of us came to you country and demanded you feed cloth and house all of us and not just any house will do it has to have 15 bedrooms and cost 5000.00 a month and we want this stuff yesterday and it has to be a certain color and our food has to be special you would kill every one of us . this how we feel you come here and demand everything and we owe you nothing. So stay home in your countries where you belong we are not happy to have you here!

  29. Joe says

    Nov 10, 2016 at 4:29 am

    Whiners almost always want something for nothing. I usually give them some advice, and it costs them nothing.

    We are one day into Trump, President Elect, and evil people across the world are upset. Boy, that feels good!

  30. Baucent says

    Nov 10, 2016 at 5:27 am

    Why do they all want to go to America anyway? Isn’t the Islamic paradise they currently reside in good enough for them? Or is it that the infidel lands actually offer a standard of living most muslims can only dream of. It’s Islam that keeps them in a medieval shit hole.

    • gravenimage says

      Nov 10, 2016 at 9:26 pm

      Baucent, they want to transform our civilized societies into just the sort of Islamic sh*tholes they left, and bleed us dry in the process.

  31. Dennis says

    Nov 10, 2016 at 6:52 am

    It is time that the President will push alternative fuels for several reasons: 1 it is good for the environment, 2 it will eliminate our dependence on the Muslim gas producing nations. But will Donald Trump have the courage to go against the Petrol companies, especially the American ones. They sell out the Americans daily to fill their pockets . The fight for us to permit Saudi Arabia’s human rights abuses so that they can continue making good money! Folks, they and other businessmen only have loyalty to one country: their own pockets.

  32. Carol Engelstad says

    Nov 10, 2016 at 9:35 am

    Oh boo hoo! After 9/11, your actions are deplorable. Donald Trump is taking back America from your kind that has no respect for the USA, pointed out because of your actions against Americans. You will get no sympathy from me and millions of other Americans. If you don’t like it here, move back to your own country where you swine belong. Your political and religious views are not important. Deportation is the only answer and that is why we elected Trump.

  33. Infadel macgee says

    Nov 10, 2016 at 12:56 pm

    Yes hilary is very good for jihadis ti infiltrate the US . I thank God she didn’t get in . As to all you dem whiners , suck it up buttercup . We put up with barack Osama for 8 yrs . You didn’t see mature repubs having riots . Now you crybabies didn’t get your way for a change and you’re spazzing out like a bunch of childish sjw punka ss bitches .

  34. steve brown says

    Nov 10, 2016 at 8:29 pm

    70 Percent of Pakistanis are inbred…

  35. Oliver says

    Nov 10, 2016 at 8:44 pm

    Slightly off topic–Nov 10, 2016–

    I heard earlier in the day that (separately) the PM (Trudeau) of Canada and the Pres. of Mexico called Mr. Trump, and stated, that they are ready-whenever he and his team is, to RENEGOTIATE NAFTA.

    This is less than TWO DAYS AFTER THE ELECTION WAS OVER AND CLINTON CONCEDED.

    If civilized countries like Canada and Mexico are concerned- and want to renegotiate a 20+ year old one sided treaty- then I could see why backwater cesspools are concerned.

    • linnte says

      Nov 10, 2016 at 11:37 pm

      Wow! And I mean WOW!

  36. Amos Nwele says

    Nov 10, 2016 at 9:35 pm

    Let the Islams vacate U.S. so that the good people of U.S. Will have peace, and if anybody is angry about trump’s victory let him leave U.S.
    Why will there be no peace in America and other part of the world, why will peace not reign, so some people are happy when they here that there is bomblast in America and other parts of the world. Vengeance is fast coming on you o radical Islam and everyone that hath peace will have no peace. God bless #America, God bless #Biafra, God bless every lover of freedom.

  37. Eric Jones says

    Nov 10, 2016 at 10:31 pm

    What galls me the most is how these foreigners think they have an automatic right to come to the USA. These same people want to control the borders of their country but demand that we remain open. Then they think they have the right to coment on who we vote for. At the same time they would tell us to mind our business if we commmented on how they run their countries. What hypocrisy!

    Eric

  38. JayT says

    Nov 11, 2016 at 12:27 pm

    A Pakistani speaks of fairness, yet his country gave safe harbor to Osama Bin Ladin and imprisoned the doctor who helped reveal OBL’s location.

    Yes, we are all taking notes on fairness from Pakistanis who traditionally are polled at over 80% anti-U.S. in general attitude.

  39. Jeff says

    Nov 12, 2016 at 3:00 pm

    The Muslim world should have done more to oppose the people who kill, torture and rape in the name of their religion. If you do not condemn them, than you are condoning their actions- and are also guilty by association.
    To paraphrase “All it takes for evil to triumph is for good Muslims to do nothing”.
    The world is fed up of Muslims saying that Islam is a peaceful religion – time to prove it!

    • linnte says

      Nov 13, 2016 at 7:32 pm

      THUMBS UP!

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