As is if were not bad enough that UNESCO recently passed a resolution declaring the Temple Mount to be Muslim, not Jewish, now the Palestinian Authority plans to seize ownership of the Dead Sea Scrolls and “demand that UNESCO order Israel to surrender the artifacts.”
Among the Scrolls are partial or complete copies of every book in the Hebrew Bible (except the book of Esther)….
The Qumran Caves Scrolls preserve a large range of Jewish religious writings from the Second Temple period, including parabiblical texts, exegetical texts, hymns and prayers, wisdom texts, apocalyptic texts, calendrical texts, and others.
The Green Line is an administrative default border (an armistice line) that never existed prior to 1949, and was created under arbitrary conditions following Israel’s Independence War.
This latest attempt to hijack history comes after Palestinians have advanced the irrational argument that Jesus was a Palestinian because Bethlehem is administered by the PA; never mind that Jesus (Yeshua) was “from the House of David” according to Scriptures. Palestinian Media Watch has cited the regularity of the references to “Jesus the Palestinian” by prominent Palestinians, including the Governor of Ramallah, Leila Ghannam (“We all have the right to be proud that Jesus is a Palestinian”); senior PA leader Jibril Rajoub (“The greatest Palestinian in history since Jesus is Yasser Arafat“); and an editorial in the PA official daily — Al-Hayat Al-Jadida — that referred to the “holy Trinity” of Arafat, Abbas and Jesus.
Pure lies and fabrication of history are nothing new for Islamic supremacists hell-bent on degrading, delegitimizing, destroying and even attempting to erase Israel’s presence in ancient Biblical history. And now they know that at UNESCO, they will find willing accomplices. The Dead Sea Scrolls in themselves bear witness to the ancient Jewish presence in the land; that may be why the Palestinians want to get hold of them, so as to try to make sure that people aren’t able to use them to make the case for Israel.

“In UNESCO, Palestinians claim ownership of Dead Sea Scrolls”, by Shlomo Cesana, Israel Hayom, November 6, 2016:
The Palestinian Authority is planning to claim ownership of the Dead Sea Scrolls and demand that UNESCO order Israel to surrender the artifacts, Israel Hayom learned over the weekend.
Discovered in the Qumran Caves in the eastern Judean Desert between 1947 and 1956, the scrolls — a trove of 981 different texts dating back to the time of the Second Temple — are believed to be the work of members of a Jewish sect known as the Essenes.
The majority of the scrolls are written in Hebrew, some are written in the Aramaic dialects common to the area at that time, and a handful of parchments are written in Greek.
The Palestinian’s first move on the matter took place last week, during a meeting of UNESCO’s subcommittee on the retrieval and return of cultural property to its countries of origin, which operates in an advisory capacity.
Israel, which is not a member of the committee, has observer status in the forum.
The Palestinian delegate claimed that as the scrolls were found in an archeological dig beyond the Green Line, Israel has taken possession of then illegally.
Qumran is located in Area C of the West Bank, which under the 1993 Oslo Accords is under Israeli civil and military control.
Israeli Ambassador to UNESCO Carmel Shama-Hacohen lambasted the Palestinians’ gall.
“This is another provocative and audacious, attempt by the Palestinians to rewrite history. The Dead Sea Scrolls are factual and weighty archeological evidence……
BLC says
So, what else is new? Muslims claim ownership of everything they get their hands on, whether it’s theirs or not.
Nan Barr says
They can claim the moon is theirs too but they will never get it.
I say just ignore them and their idiotic claims … what is the UN going to do to Israel that they do NOT already do or try to do.
Sc*ew the fakesinians!
ploome says
More than 1/2 nations voting against Israel are Christian nations- they think that the muslims will ‘like’ them more?
gravenimage says
The biggest voting bloc in the UN is the OIC (Organisation of Islamic Cooperation).
Carmel says
I don,t remember where I saw this but someone on Egypt national Tv said that Neil Armstrong as he put a feet on lunar soil , hear a voice . It was the voice of Allah . So , back on earth , Armstrong became muslim after this experience but ” Americans hide this fact .” Now ,Neil Armstrong is living in Tecas as a muslim and that is why we see him so rarely in publlic .
The same taqiya was said about Jacques Cousteau , the french oceanographer . While in the deep part of the sea , he saw what is mention in Qur’an about sea phenomenon . So, back on earth , he convert to islam and is now resting in a muslim cemetary in France but , again, french authorities hide this fact too.
Muslim taqiya and propaganda .
T.L.CLARK says
That is an urban legend. This is a copy/pate from Wikipedia.
“Since the early 1980s, Armstrong has been the subject of a hoax saying that he converted to Islam after hearing the adhan, the Muslim call to prayer, while walking on the Moon. The Indonesian singer Suhaemi wrote a song called “Gema Suara Adzan di Bulan” (“The Resonant Sound of the Call to Prayer on the Moon”) which described Armstrong’s conversion; the song was discussed widely in various Jakarta news outlets in 1983. Other similar hoax stories were seen in Egypt and Malaysia. In March 1983, the U.S. State Department responded by issuing a global message to Muslims saying that Armstrong “has not converted to Islam”. However, the hoax was not completely quieted; it surfaced occasionally for the next three decades. A part of the confusion stems from the similarity between Armstrong’s American residence in Lebanon, Ohio, and the country Lebanon which has a majority population of Muslims.”
Armstrong was no mooslime. Since he died August 5,2012 he’s NOT living Tecas, THAT IS WHY HE’S NEVER SEEN IN PUBLIC!! Check your facts before posting. It’s not hard to do.
gravenimage says
Yes, Carmel and T.L.–this ridiculous Muslim canard has been around for a long time. My favorite detail was that you knew this was true because Armstrong was now “living in a Muslim country”.
Where did *that* come from? Well, Armstrong did live in Lebanon–but it was actually the town of Lebanon, Ohio.
PeteyGunn says
Did you here the one where Christopher Columbus was a muslim therefore North America actually belongs to muslims. This is another rumour spread across the middle east
Greyhound Fancier says
The Philistinians as usual being utterly bizarre. Claiming that writings produced 600+ years prior to the birth of their disgusting pedophile warlord “prophet” somehow have a connection to their hideous pathological belief system (can’t dignify Mohammedanism by calling it a religion).
Mohammedanism is Satan’s greatest triumph. The Philistinians are some of the worst minions. Just like the Philistines, murdering their children by encouraging them to suicide while killing others, as if that’s an honor, to appease their “god”. Killing others and committing mayhem to civilization and truth.
Naturally, their Mohammedan compatriots will back them up in their foolishness.
Francesca says
They will destroy them as they did the giant Buddhas, Palmyra etc.
European culture will be next.
Westman says
Something like a mysterious museum fire? Scrolls ? What scrolls?
Robert_HI says
I am SO AFRAID that YOU ARE RIGHT, Francesca. It is my SINCEREST HOPE that Israel DOES NOT succumb to this ABSURD DEMAND to turn over one of the EARLIEST parchments of the Tanach ever FOUND – that is CLEARLY of Jewish origin (word-for-word from the Torah, NOTHING to do with the Krapola Kouran — the UN and its subsidiaries are going WAY OUT OF HAND in acquiescing to Muslim demands – who are now the BULK membership of the UN & its “committees,” including the “HUMAN RIGHTS Committee” (can you BELIEVE it?) … It’s time to DISSOLVE the UN, and DISREGARD ALL & ANY of its “findings” and/or “RESOLUTIONS!”
Bob says
The koran TELLS them that everything belongs to muslims as ‘the best of people’.
linnte says
This is OUTRAGEOUS! Israel should never even consider for one second turning over THEIR HOLY scripture to ISLAM! Of course she won’t, but the thought makes me enflamed! This UNESCO group need to be brought down!
JOHN SPIELMAN says
I say DEFUND the entire UN it is total a USELESS NATIONS concept that is so politicized as to be absurd
Greyhound Fancier says
Then, let the UN find a lovely spot like, say, Mogadishu to have a nice new headquarters.
Bob says
Oh, Greyhound – you do have some fasctinating ideas. Send the UN to somewhere where the muslims who’re running the whole boiling, can enjoy some civilised muslim traditions,such as beheadings,amputations or rape, just by way of examples.
Ed Lee says
In referring to Arafat, Abbas and Jesus as the “holy Trinity”, The Palestinian Authority has committed the ultimate forbidden sin. The Koran, in numerous verses, states that to hold anyone or anything equal to Allah is the utmost blasphemy. Obviously, Muslim “authorities” are betting that the majority of believers and infidels have never read the Koran. Taking a page from Adolph Hitler in Mein Kampf, the Muslim authorities keep repeating their lies and simply characterize the independent thinkers as the lunatic fringe.
Greyhound Fancier says
Placing Jesus and Arafat in the same sentence is disgusting. The Philistinians are shameless.
Glenn Wilson says
Primitive Man (Muslims) are not even human. Their thoughts and ideas are so backward that I don’t believe they can even be a member of society. They do not need to live in the West with Modern Man and bring the filth of Islam with them. Mankind has given them every chance in the world to live in peace and harmony. All they want to do is to kill and conquer, don’t bring your shithole ideas to Modern Man. Islam was invented to stop paganism, unite the Arabs and start the worship of Satan. Inbreeding has helped to keep this Satanic Cult alive. Thanks to the cult of war and conquest.
Angemon says
Grubby little monkeys – it was bad enough when they stole anything that was not nailed to the floor, but now not even history is safe…
linnte says
Angemon, again you NAILED it! It is history that Islam wants to pervert and make its own.
Greyhound Fancier says
That’s what all totalitarians do.
Crusades Were Right! says
Presumably it will eventually be the turn of the Book of Kells, Notre Dame Cathedral, St Peter’s Basilica, and all the other treasures of Christendom. Why not? Isn’t Jesus a Mohammedan prophet? The Mohammedans say He is, and that’s all that matters these days, apparently!
ploome says
http://islam101.com/dawah/newBorn.htm
The Prophet Muhammad said, “No babe is born but upon Fitra (as a Muslim). It is his parents who make him a Jew or a Christian or a Polytheist.” (Sahih Muslim, Book 033, Number 6426)
Islam is the religion of all Prophets, Adam to Muhammad. Children are not born out of any sin, original, inherited or derived. They are born on the religion of their nature, i.e., Islam.
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2015/01/india-muslim-leader-says-every-child-is-born-a-muslim
India: Muslim leader says, “Every child is born a Muslim”
JANUARY 5, 2015 11:48 AM BY ROBERT SPENCER
Asaduddin_Owaisi_650This supremacist sentiment is undeniably ugly, but it should not be a surprise to anyone. It is based on a hadith in which Muhammad is depicted as saying: “No babe is born but upon Fitra (as a Muslim). It is his parents who make him a Jew or a Christian or a Polytheist.” (Sahih Muslim 6426)
Will Doohan says
All children are born atheists. They know nothing about God or religion until their parents start brainwashing them with their particular brand of nonsense.
Vekafitzfrancis says
If that were true then religion would never have evolved as a social phenomenon. Get over your hatred of religion. No one in the West cares if you have a faith or not.
Gray says
Those idolatrous Dead Sea Scrolls really will be dead if the Muslims get their hands on them. How does that mantra go again: If they contain material that confirms what is in the Koran, then they are superfluous, and should be destroyed: if they contain material that contradicts what is in the Koran, they are heretical, and should be destroyed. Islam only knows how to destroy, never to create.
dumbledoresarmy says
Islam: the religion of shameless thieves who tell themselves that they are not thieves because everything in the world ‘really’ belongs to them and the rightful owners – even creators – of the things they (the Muslims) intend to steal – are ‘thieves’.
This is like a burglar who breaks into a house and then claims that the house is his and that the homeowner was occupying it illegally.
ploome says
exactly
Kenneth T Tellis says
The Dead Sea scrolls are part of the history of the Essenes, who were a Jewish sect, who were fighting the Roman Invaders and lost their battle with the Romans at Masada, and committed suicide rather than be tortured. There was no Palestinians then, because the Islamic ARAB INVASION came after the 7th century A.D. The Palestinians of today are the spawn of the Islamic Conquerors of the 7th century who were in occupation of Israel, and thus have absolutely no claim to even one inch of Israel today. The this spawn of those Arab Muslim invaders return to their homeland, which is Saudi Arabia today and let the Jews reclaim all their stolen land since the 7th century A.D. History, cannot be revoked even to please the spawn of the Arabs or as they call themselves PALESTINIANS today. CONQUEST is a form of robbery and cannot be recognizes as valid in any century.
Ciudadano says
“Pure lies and fabrication of history”. Well, probably they are just following the example of their “prophet” Mohamed the great scripture forgerer.
Baucent says
That will never happen. Israel would never surrender the scrolls to the PA. But it demonstrates the strategy of the Arabs is cultural appropriation.
Cecilia Ellis says
Baucent, you are correct; Israel will not relinquish the Dead Sea Scrolls to the Palestinians. In fact, Carmel Shama-Hacohen, the Israeli ambassador to UNESCO, agreed with you on that fact. Here is what he had to say:
“The fragments of the scrolls are proof and a weighty archaeological evidence of the historical connection of the Jewish People to the Land of Israel. In any case, just like with the Temple Mount and the Western Wall, the scrolls will stay in our hands and the Palestinians will be left with their dreams.”
http://www.timesofisrael.com/israel-worried-palestinians-will-try-to-claim-for-dead-sea-scrolls/
Greyhound Fancier says
They don’t appropriate other cultures – they apply force and threats and suppress other cultures. The Dead Sea Scrolls are a target of Mohammedans because they demonstrate the true history of the land now known as Judea and Samaria (Israel).
North Africa, the Tigris-Euphrates valley, Turkey, and the whole of south Asia all the way to Bangladesh has had its culture forever damaged and cowed into submission by Mohammedanism. Why in the world would persons all over a large swath of the world pray five times daily in Arabic, a language unknown to the indigenous peoples? Only because of the cultural domination and suppression of the native people.
Baucent says
They appropriate it by saying, as Yasser Arafat did, that the Jewish Patriarchs were his ancestors. And that is an ongoing strategy to de-legitimize Israel and the historical connection of the Jews to the land.
gravenimage says
Muslims claim that both the Jewish prophets and Jesus were actually all Muslim. Just ludicrous.
somehistory says
The attempt to say that Israel had no claim to the Temple Mount could be proven a lie by the history of the first Temple and what happened to it and to the Second Temple.
moslims can’t change history or wipe it out. The closest they can come is to wipe out anything written down that proves they are liars, tramps and thieves. This is why they won’t allow anyone to take anything from under their evil barracks and this is why they are claiming , what amounts to, The Bible.
They think, stupidiy and wickedly, that if they can get their grubby thieving hands on the scrolls they can destroy them and history will be unproven from that forward, and will say all Bibles are just made up stuff.
But it won’t work.
gravenimage says
Muslims have done this all over the world–destroying “Jahillyah”–signs of pre-Islamic “ignorance”. The most obvious example was the Bamiyan Buddhas, but there have been many, many more examples.
“It begins: Muslims in Maldives smash Buddhist statues in National Museum”
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2012/02/it-begins-muslims-in-maldives-smash-buddhist-statues-in-national-museum
“They have effectively erased all evidence of our Buddhist past…”
“Islamic State jihadis destroy 3,000-year-old artworks in Mosul museum”
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2015/02/islamic-state-jihadis-destroy-3000-year-old-artworks-in-mosul-museum
There are thousands more examples. Dominic, a British archaeologist who used to post here before his untimely death, actually found Muslims in Pakistan hard at work destroying pre-Muslim artifacts there.
Custos Custodum says
There is an entire Wikipedia article dealing with the targeted destruction of historical evidence by the Saudis (link below). Items destroyed include:
– Grave of Amina bint Wahb, Muhammad’s mother, bulldozed in 1998.
– Tomb of Eve in Jeddah,[20] sealed with concrete in 1975.
– Grave of the father of Muhammad, in Medina.[20]
Evidently, the Saudis are terrified lest physical evidence expose the ACTUAL history of early Islam to their Muslim subjects and to thinking non-Muslims.
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Destruction_of_early_Islamic_heritage_sites_in_Saudi_Arabia&oldid=746947038
gravenimage says
So true–and that is just the Saudis. Muslims do this all over the world.
Kay says
I knew they destroyed other people’s history. I didn’t know they also destroyed their own. That’s really weird.
gravenimage says
Kay, this is because the most rabid Muslims consider even Muslim history to be “idolotry”. That’s why you find Jihadists destroying Muslim tombs in places like Timbuktu.
“Muslim gets nine years for destroying shrines in Timbuktu”
“The leadership of Ansar Dine believed that the shrines violated Islamic legal codes.”
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2016/09/muslim-gets-nine-years-for-destroying-shrines-in-timbuktu
The same thing has happened in Mali, as well as in Saudi Arabia.
Kay says
It’s horrible. It’s a crime against all humanity.
linnte says
A horrible crime against humanity! No respect for other cultures, people, not even themselves. No compassion. No reverence. No UNDERSTANDING.
Greyhound Fancier says
Amen! This behavior is similar to when the Soviets wrote people out of history after they’d gone out of favor.
gravenimage says
*Exactly*, GF.
Dennis says
Israel don’t hand over the scrolls. The Palestinians will wipe there behinds on them and then burn them.
gravenimage says
In UNESCO, Palestinians claim ownership of Dead Sea Scrolls
………………………….
Grotesque–not least because Muslims claim that Jews and Christians have “corrupted” their texts, which were once (supposedly) just like the Qur’an.
But this is just another attempt at cultural appropriation, and to erase the mellenia-long Jewish presence in the Holy Land.
Normally, I would say I hope UNESCO tells them to go pound sand–but given what they have done vis-a-vis the Temple Mount, I would not count on them. I just hope Israel stands firm.
Kay says
I agree. It’s important that Israel stands firm.
citycat says
A christian friend told me that in the dead sea scrolls a mistranslation was found.
This being that the phrase-
“if someone slaps you on the cheek then turn the other cheek”
should read-
“if someone slaps you on the cheek then turn your sails to the wind”
my friend said that it proves that Jesus was a sailor, whereas i believe, if it’s true, that it means Jesus was a magician and-
“turn your sails to the wind”
means gather force and sort the assailant out good style.
I’ll see him soon and i’ll check out the details about what he said.
Kay says
I am weary of Mohammedens destruction.
Other than to destroy, it makes no sense that they would want the scrolls, which are precious to others but not to them.
Nobody wants to take a thing from someone who considers it precious when they themselves don’t value it. It’s completely illogical.
Jenny H says
They want to be given them so they can destroy them, after all, in their belief, the Bible has been tampered with, and supposedly, the Koran set the record straight.
David A. Grisez says
Do not let the Palestinian Authority ever have possession of the Dead Sea Scrolls. Because based on the actions of Isalmic groups the Palestinian Authority would destroy the Dead Sea Scrolls, this is because the Dead Sea Scrolls do not support anything in Islam. They would have to destroy the Dead Sea Scrolls because the Dead Sea Scrolls disprove the phoney fictional Palestinian rewritten history.
Hokken says
Claiming the moon as mine doesn’t make it mine, calling a cat a fish doesn’t make it a better swimmer. Ignoring the truth doesn’t erase the truth.
gravenimage says
Not it doesn’t–but it makes it easier to deny people knowledge of the truth, and this is the whole point.
mach37 says
My most recent studies of Islam leads me to believe that the source of all anti-Jewish discrimination in the modern world originated in the rise of Islam, beginning in the 7th century CE.
That study of Islam also puzzles me, as to why and how Islam has come to be so highly regarded in the modern world. Why is Islam almost venerated by non-Muslims? I find nothing – not one thing – in the teachings of Islam that makes it better than other religions. On the contrary, Islam has seemingly hundreds of verses in its holy book, the Koran, that make it a vicious, violent and terrible example of recommended behavior by Muslims towards non-Islamics, which seems to be the source of all Jew-hatred today.
Vekafitzfrancis says
I think I can answer your second question. Academia and the highest levels of government have been infected with a former of elitism that claims to know what is best for global populations. Sharia is much the same, claiming to know what is best for people. The elitists that seek to control the world (for it’s best interests, of course) like such a complete system of faith, governance and economy that puts them (they like to think) in control. What many of them don’t realize is that they are the first to be beheaded, when the jihadis come acalling.
Raja says
mach37,
Agreed. 100%
Aton says
In addition, these Arabs are not Palestinian !!
The original Palestinians were the Peleset (the Philistines), and they came from Mycenae (Greece) in the 12th century BC. And they spoke archaeic Greek.
It was not until the 8th century AD that the Arab Muslims conquered the Levant, and eliminated all the original Peleset Palestinians. And they not only stole the lands of the Peleset Palestinians, they stole their name too.
Ergo, of all the peoples in this region, the modern Palestinians have the weakest claim to the land and its heritage.
Aton
Cretius says
A Mohammedan UNESCO has no validity among us non-believers. Israel should just tell the PA to get stuffed. Imagine. Mohammedans demanding Old Testament scrolls written in Hebrew! I can see a new cartoon in the future.
The Scrolls are available to Mohammedan scholars on-line. http://dss.collections.imj.org.il/
Mo says
Oh, I cannot even read this whole thing, it makes me so sick! How DARE they?!
Florida Jim says
Africa has 54 countries within it [Morocco doesn’t want to join for some muslim reason]. There are 1.1 billion people and about 4 happy people. It is a nation of hellholes. America has hellholes created by democrats all over her but Africa has never been a pleasant or safe place. anywhere Muslims inhabit is unlivable.Israel is the only free nation and it is surrounded by muslims who torment them daily. Palestinians are not recognized by anyone other then musliim terrorists who use the fake nation to draw monies from bigots and endlessly torment hardworking and prosperous Jews Yasser Arafat milked the game and became a billionaire doing it and never wanted to solve the problem simply keep it alive and milk it now Hezbollah, Iran and Obama and others are doing he same.
garegin says
I even read a zealot claiming that Israel wanted go gain possesion of the strolls to hide the fact that the scrolls agree with the Septuagint and not the Masoretic. Yeah, because secular Jews care about textual differences that obscure messianic passages. It couldn’t the the enormous prestige of having the scrolls, which were a truly astounding discovery.