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Iran once again exceeds a nuclear deal limit

Nov 10, 2016 3:02 pm By Robert Spencer

“It’s important to note that Iran made no effort to hide this, hide what it was doing from the IAEA,” said Toner, apparently trying to give the impression that it was an honest mistake on the Iranians’ part. And it may have been. Or they may be acting with impunity in the face of the manifest weakness of the U.S. and the IAEA.

Khamenei

“Iran once again exceeds a nuclear deal limit -IAEA report,” by Francois Murphy, Reuters, November 9, 2016:

VIENNA, Nov 9 (Reuters) – Iran has exceeded a soft limit on sensitive material set under its nuclear deal with major powers, the U.N. atomic watchdog said on Wednesday, hours after Donald Trump – who has strongly criticized the agreement – won the U.S. presidential election.

It is the second time Tehran has surpassed the 130 metric tonne threshold for heavy water, a material used as a moderator in reactors like Iran’s unfinished one at Arak, since the deal was put in place in January. It had 130.1 tonnes of the material on Tuesday, the watchdog said.

The last time Iran overstepped that mark was brief, passing without major criticism from the other countries that signed the nuclear deal last year. But there are questions about whether the incoming Trump administration will react to such incidents the same way.

“On 2 November 2016, the director general expressed concerns related to Iran’s stock of heavy water to the vice president of Iran and president of the Atomic Energy Organization of Iran, … Ali Akbar Salehi,” the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) said in a confidential report seen by Reuters.

The IAEA is policing the restrictions placed on Iran’s nuclear activities under the deal it signed with the United States, Russia, China, Britain, France and Germany. The agreement also lifted international sanctions against Tehran.

Iran told the agency it would prepare to transfer 5 tonnes of heavy water out of the country, as provided for in the deal, and a senior diplomat said Iran planned to carry out the shipment in the coming days.

A U.S. State Department spokesman, speaking at a regular news briefing in Washington, confirmed Iran’s intention to export the excess heavy water.

“It’s important to note that Iran made no effort to hide this, hide what it was doing from the IAEA,” spokesman Mark Toner said….

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  1. Don McKellar says

    Nov 10, 2016 at 3:34 pm

    They better hurry up with that first nuclear test! The Islamic Supremacist’s President is rapidly on his way out and the American People’s President is on his way in!

  2. Lucia Bartoli says

    Nov 10, 2016 at 4:03 pm

    And is ANYONE surprised???

  3. Lucia Bartoli says

    Nov 10, 2016 at 4:13 pm

    I suspect our very innovative officials will find a way to invalidate your “deal.” Hey, a deal, or THE deal, has two entities as parties to it. Thus if YOU (i.e., IRAN) fail, then the deal would be null and void. OR, our country comes at you with fresh sanctions. I like that. So much that great “brokered” deal that KILLARY claims as so great.

    “

    • gravenimage says

      Nov 11, 2016 at 3:48 pm

      Lucia, you are right–but only if someone on our side of the deal has the will to enforce it. Given that this insane deal should not have been made in the first place–even with Iran keeping to its strictures is suicidal for us–I would not count on your common sense analysis applying here at all.

      • Dexter L. Wilson says

        Nov 11, 2016 at 5:11 pm

        Iran HAS ALREADY BROKEN THE DEAL. WHO EVER HEARD OF KEEPING ON ADHERING TO A DEAL THAT THE PRIMARY FAILED TO DO WHAT WAS IN THE DEAL. THE ONLY ONE I KNOW WHO KEPT HIS PART OF A DEAL WAS GOD AND THE JEWS AND EVEN TODAY HE HAS HONORED THE AGREEMENT TO RETURN THE JEWS TO ISRAEL. WE ARE MEN AND NOT GOD THAT WE CAN SEE AHEAD AND KEEP AN AGREEMENT. IRAN IS IN TROUBLE BECAUSE THEY WILL NEVER KEEP A PROMISE TO A NATION THAT THEY CONSIDER A NON-BELIEVER.

        • gravenimage says

          Nov 12, 2016 at 1:22 pm

          Dexter L. Wilson wrote:

          THE ONLY ONE I KNOW WHO KEPT HIS PART OF A DEAL WAS GOD
          ……………………….

          Dexter, mere humans–despite our being so fallible–keep up their end of deals all the time. For instance, the US has not broken the deal with Iran.

          Expecting humans to hold to deals–unless the deals are unfair or impossible–is not unreasonable at all.

          The reason Iran did not uphold the deal–as you yourself note in the last part of your post–is not because they are not God, but because they do not consider it necessary to abide by any agreement with the “filthy Infidels”.

  4. miriamrove says

    Nov 10, 2016 at 4:43 pm

    Good. Let them break the rules. another 2 1/2 month left to break the rules. After that Trump will break their b…..s. I am Iranian and I talk to family home almost on a daily basis. They are s… their pants. about trump getting elected. m

    • Angemon says

      Nov 10, 2016 at 5:08 pm

      Precisely what I was going to say – they have 70-something days left to break the rules with impunity.

    • gravenimage says

      Nov 11, 2016 at 3:48 pm

      I hope you are right, miriam.

    • Kathy Brown, Esq. says

      Nov 11, 2016 at 9:47 pm

      Oh, she’s right Graven. She’s right.

      Coming soon: [Pres. Trump broadcasting from the Oval Office]: Tonight I ordered America’s Armed Forces to annihilate the forces of radical islamic terrorism wherever it exists on our planet’.

      KA-BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      • gravenimage says

        Nov 11, 2016 at 9:56 pm

        Hi, Kathy. miriam rove is actually a guy–an ex-Muslim from Iran and a staunch Anti-Jihadist–I’m not sure where he got the username. His son is a brave US military hero crack sniper who has served abroad.

  5. Dexter L. Wilson says

    Nov 10, 2016 at 4:56 pm

    is no excuse to tear up the agreement obviously because they never honored the agreement. They tore it up. Trump, tear up this contract and shoot down any Iranian plane that comes within 100 feet of American ships and the same for their ships.

    • miriamrove says

      Nov 10, 2016 at 5:02 pm

      amen.m

  6. davej says

    Nov 10, 2016 at 5:46 pm

    “No effort to hide it”, “exceed limits with impunity”

    One thing about Islam, they do tell us how they really feel. “Death to America” means exactly that.

    Similarly the Koran lays out their hatred and evil goals in plain old black and white.

    We just refuse to listen or believe them or excuse them in advance.

    Islam is an implacable force that now has the possibility of hitting an immovable object – Mr Trump.

  7. Praeceptor Maximus says

    Nov 10, 2016 at 6:45 pm

    When Trump takes the oath of Office, he will be 70 years and 7 months old in the year 2017 which corresponds to the Jewish calendar 5777. 3 lots of 7s
    A Republican president with a Republican Senate and a Republican House.
    Trump is the 45th president.
    Isaiah 45:1 Thus said the LORD to his anointed, to Cyrus, whose right hand I have hold, to subdue nations before him; and I will loose the loins of kings, to open before him the two leaved gates; and the gates shall not be shut

    I believe the Holy Trinity has spoken.
    Enemies of America will be vanquished.

    • Mark Swan says

      Nov 10, 2016 at 9:53 pm

      Here is just one example of ancient prophecy fulfilled as God predicted it would be.

      Babylon was the greatest empire of its time, and Bible prophecy predicted that this great power would punish other nations as a judgment from God. Then, Babylon itself was to be judged for its sinfulness.

      More than 100 years before the overthrow of this great empire, the prophet Isaiah named the individual who would be responsible for Babylon’s fall. King Cyrus of Persia lived almost two centuries after Isaiah, yet was prophesied by name in Isaiah 44! Isaiah even prophesied how Cyrus would enter Babylon to conquer it: “Thus says the Lord to His anointed, to Cyrus, whose right hand I have held; to subdue nations before him and loose the armor of kings, to open before him the double doors [or two-leaved gates], so that the gates will not be shut: ‘I will go before you and make the crooked places straight; I will break in pieces the gates of bronze and cut the bars of iron. I will give you the treasures of darkness and hidden riches of secret places, that you may know that I, the Lord, who call you by your name, am the God of Israel'” (Isaiah 45:1–3).

      The Bible records a remarkable event that occurred in 539bc— Belshazzar, the king of Babylon, held a great feast for one thousand of his nobles. During the festivities, he toasted pagan gods with cups that were taken from the temple in Jerusalem. As the king began to drink, a man’s hand appeared and wrote several words on the wall of the palace—terrifying the king!

      The aged prophet Daniel was summoned to decipher the words—that spelled out the imminent doom of Belshazzar and his kingdom.

      Greek historians confirm the biblical account. Writing in approximately 450bc, the Greek historian Herodotus described how the Medes and Persians defeated the Babylonians in a battle just north of the city of Babylon.

      The Babylonians retreated into their supposedly impregnable double-walled city. Confident of their safety, Belshazzar’s festivities were held while his enemies were encamped outside the city.

      The Medes and Persians, recognizing the difficulty of a direct attack on the walls of Babylon, diverted the river that ran through the Babylonian capital, and entered the fortified city at night through the riverbed—while Belshazzar and his nobles were toasting pagan gods with the vessels taken from the temple in Jerusalem. Herodotus does record in his account, the city of Babylon was taken by surprise—and fell suddenly (The Histories, book 1, sections 191–192)!

      Pride and arrogance have consequences—Belshazzar despised and defied the God of the Bible—and, as a result, he lost his kingdom and his life. Forgetfulness can be fatal—Belshazzar forgot the lessons his predecessor Nebuchadnezzar had learned—that there is a God in heaven who rules in the affairs of men and brings down those who walk in pride (Daniel 4:34–37). Negligence carries a big cost—Belshazzar ignored the signs of the times—he was not watching when he was surrounded by his enemies—and his city was taken by surprise! When Belshazzar finally saw the handwriting on the wall, it was too late—he had crossed the line; he had reached the end of his rope—and God brought him and his kingdom down!

    • Ernie says

      Nov 11, 2016 at 12:52 am

      Praeceptor Maximus and Mark Swan : Thank you for educating . Both great teachers !

      • Praeceptor Maximus says

        Nov 11, 2016 at 3:10 am

        Hi Ernie. You are welcome. Mark Swan wrote a wonderful piece of history.

        • Mark Swan says

          Nov 11, 2016 at 10:54 am

          To what is posted below—the Kingdom of God is a literal Kingdom,
          it will be set up by Christ when He returns. This present age of Man
          and Satan’s rule will end then. The whole earth will finally know peace.

    • Mubarak says

      Nov 11, 2016 at 1:21 am

      The kingdom of God is not of this world but hopefully in this world. –
      To use the bible in order to bolster American nationalism and “make America great again” is a misuse and it will backfire. –
      “Righteousness exalteth a nation: but sin is a reproach to any people.” –
      “Behold, the eyes of the Lord GOD are upon the sinful kingdom, and I will destroy it from off the face of the earth; saving that I will not utterly destroy the house of Jacob, saith the LORD.” –
      We should consider that in relation to our own people before we apply it to others.

      • Praeceptor Maximus says

        Nov 11, 2016 at 3:09 am

        Mubarak
        God will certainly destroy the sinful nations of Islam which have been denying the divinity of Christ, his crucifixion and his resurrection for 1400 years. I am going to share a dream here with you and with everybody else. Do with it what you will. Not long ago I had a dream in which I heard a voice saying that God will perform double mastectomy on Islamic nations. And now we see that Trump (and you have to say something for the name) won the election against all odds. Oh, by the way, I am not American. I am Australian.

        • Mubarak says

          Nov 11, 2016 at 3:44 am

          Trump will be a judgment on the American people before he will be a judgment on Islamic nations. He facial expression is occasionally one of Mussolini and it doesn’t bode well for America and the world.

          Islam with its fake prophet and made-up holy book will certainly be destroyed, but the destruction will take nations and people with it.

        • Kay says

          Nov 11, 2016 at 7:35 am

          In the last days,’ God says, ‘I will pour out my Spirit upon all people. Your sons and daughters will prophesy. Your young men will see visions, and your old men will dream dreams.

        • gravenimage says

          Nov 11, 2016 at 4:34 pm

          I was wondering when the foul Mubarak was going to raise his ugly head again, and here he is:

          The kingdom of God is not of this world but hopefully in this world. –
          To use the bible in order to bolster American nationalism and “make America great again” is a misuse and it will backfire. –
          “Righteousness exalteth a nation: but sin is a reproach to any people.” –
          ……………………………..

          Well, Mubarak has said this many times before–that we deserve to be raped and murdered by his vicious coreligionists for such “sins” as allowing women to attend public celebrations and to work and study alongside men, and even for the sin of protesting Muslim rape.

          More:

          “Behold, the eyes of the Lord GOD are upon the sinful kingdom, and I will destroy it from off the face of the earth; saving that I will not utterly destroy the house of Jacob, saith the LORD.” –
          We should consider that in relation to our own people before we apply it to others.
          ……………………………..

          In other words, don’t dare say anything negative about the sanguinary horror of the Islamic Republic of Iran, that screams “Death to America!” and “Death to Israel!”, hangs gay people from cranes, and stones women to death–because, hey, you filthy Infidels allow lingerie ads and mixed-gender youth wrestling…

          More:

          Trump will be a judgment on the American people before he will be a judgment on Islamic nations. He facial expression is occasionally one of Mussolini and it doesn’t bode well for America and the world.
          ……………………………..

          Someone actually talked about limiting the flood of violent Jihadists into the US–he must be “Mussolini”! sarc/off

          And Mubarak has said before that Christianity demands that we must import hordes of ravening Mohammedans to rape us and our children to atone for our sins, real and imagined.

          So now he says that it will be a “judgment on the American people” if we do anything to protect ourselves and our loved ones.

          Yet more:

          Islam with its fake prophet and made-up holy book will certainly be destroyed, but the destruction will take nations and people with it.
          ……………………………..

          This is, of course, another threat against us–leavened with the thinnest fake anti-JIhadism. Just what we would expect from the repellent Mubarak. *Ugh*.

        • Dexter L. Wilson says

          Nov 11, 2016 at 6:55 pm

          Let me ask you, have you consulted with the Holy Spirit who is the Spirit of truth who will lead you into all truth? Are you understanding the prayers of the saints and the votes that stopped Hillary? May I suggest you go back and receive the Baptism in the Holy Spirit with the evidence of speaking in tongues. Salvation is best described from Ezekiel 36’25-27″. Also, Look at Iaiah30’21″as to what the Holy Spirit will do for you. As the New Testament points out the importance of the Holy Spirit especially in the book of Acts. Do not neglect the greater gifts. Remember the promise of the Holy Spirit by John the Baptist who reminds us the greater one will Baptize you in the Holy Spirit. If you are wise I think you need to go back and find out what the Holy Spirit what He has to say since He is the Spirit of truth who leads us into all truth. I do not wish to offend you but your communication of “Men’s Philosophies”which is based in one’s own spirit that you are listening to. and I really did listen to the Holy Spirit about this.

      • duh swami says

        Nov 11, 2016 at 4:25 am

        You better move to Canada or Yemen before that evil guy Trump destroys the world,,,

      • Praeceptor Maximus says

        Nov 11, 2016 at 5:23 am

        Oh, Mubarak, Mubarak.
        How well you do at double-talk. On the one hand you do agree that God will destroy Islam and its fake prophet but on the other hand you say that Trump is a Mussolini and that does not bode well for America and the world. I am going to share something with you. Around 2003 I had a very strange dream about Trump which left me totally bewildered. Now, to me Trump meant nothing. He was a rich American, that’s all. I took no interest in the man. I do not know whether back then he had his own show or not, but I certainly never watched any of his shows. Actually, I do not watch TV at all, only on rare occasions when there is something of worth to watch. Anyway, in my dream I saw him as the president of the United States. I really didn’t know what to think of it. I dismissed it as a nonsensical dream. Imagine my surprise when I heard that he was going to run for presidency, 12 years after I had this dream. Then in the late stages of the primaries (when he was running against Cruz and Rubio) I had another dream which I will never forget. In my dream I heard a voice saying these very words: if Ted Cruz becomes president he will commit an act of genocide. If Marco Rubio becomes president, he will be an ineffective president. If Clinton becomes president, a lot of Americans will die under her. If Sanders becomes president, he won’t be able to get anything done. But with Trump there was no if and it was said last. It said, ‘Trump is a great navigator.’ After the primaries were over and the race was between Clinton and Trump, I had another dream in which Trump was surrounded by a massive crowd of people, while Hillary and Bill were kind of scurrying around. And a voice again spoke in my dream and said that Trump has the best people working for him while Clinton has the worst people working for her. She is scrapping the bottom of the barrel. And I looked inside a barrel and I saw rubbish sticking at the bottom. Three dreams I have had about this man. And I firmly believe that the voice that spoke to me in those dreams was the voice of the Holy Spirit. And I take the words of the Holy Spirit over a man anytime. You look at Trump and you see a Mussolini. I look at Trump and I see a very kind man. Trump is no saint, but he is no devil either. Something is very right about this man. You cannot see it, because your heart is in the dark.

        • Ernie says

          Nov 11, 2016 at 6:00 am

          WOW !

        • Cecilia Ellis says

          Nov 11, 2016 at 6:25 am

          Praeceptor Maximus, what an encouraging and beautiful narrative! Thank you for sharing that gift with us.

          “To one who has faith, no explanation is necessary. To one without faith, no explanation is possible.” — Thomas Aquinas

        • Mubarak says

          Nov 11, 2016 at 6:26 am

          “Thus saith the LORD; Cursed be the man that trusteth in man, and maketh flesh his arm, and whose heart departeth from the LORD.” –

          Your Grand Master is bound to disappoint you, PM

        • Cecilia Ellis says

          Nov 11, 2016 at 7:55 am

          Mubarak wrote:

          “‘Thus saith the LORD; Cursed be the man that trusteth in man, and maketh flesh his arm, and whose heart departeth from the LORD.’ –

          Your Grand Master is bound to disappoint you, PM”

          ………………..

          Mubarak, as one who demonstrates a compulsion to quote Scripture, you must know that the same tactic was used unsuccessfully by Satan, as recorded in Scripture:

          Quoting from Psalm 91:11-12, Satan challenged Jesus to leap from the mountain, tempting Him with the following protection: “If You are the Son of God throw Yourself down; for it is written, ‘He will give His angels charge concerning You’; and ‘On their hands they will bear You up, Lest You strike Your foot against a stone.'” (Matthew 4:6)

          Recognizing Satan’s strategy, Jesus referred to Deuteronomy 6:16: “On the other hand, it is written, ‘You shall not put the Lord your God to the test.'” (Matthew 4:7-8).

          In short, Mubarak, Satan failed, as have you, in an attempt to distort truth. You are who you are . . . one who, as your name conveys, kneels in praise before “the Greatest of Deceivers”.

          You pathetically mock Praeceptor Maximus with your comment, “Your Grand Master is bound to disappoint you, PM.” As such, you must know that Praeceptor Maximus, aware of another Scripture verse, will not be shaken:

          “For my thoughts are not your thoughts, nor are your ways my ways, says the Lord. For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways and my thoughts than your thoughts.” (Isaiah 55:8-9)

          As for you, Mubarak, your “Grand Master” has been revealed to be a liar and deceiver, a title he specifically adorns himself with great pride. In the end, you matter not in the least to him.

        • gravenimage says

          Nov 11, 2016 at 4:38 pm

          Mubarak wrote:

          “Thus saith the LORD; Cursed be the man that trusteth in man, and maketh flesh his arm, and whose heart departeth from the LORD.” –

          Your Grand Master is bound to disappoint you, PM
          ………………….

          In other words, you filthy Infidels should not hope that anyone can turn back the tide of Islamic conquest.

          This is urging us to despair and to just surrender now.

          And, once again, the appalling Mubarak is trying to convince us that it is God who wants us to roll over for evil. *Ugh*.

      • Praeceptor Maximus says

        Nov 11, 2016 at 7:01 am

        Mubarak
        In your haste or anger, whichever the case might be, to attack me, you chose to quote Jeremiah 17:5, which describes you and not me. It is you who has put his trust in man. And that man is yourself. You believe in your own judgment without any reference to Christ. Whilst I have done no such thing. I went by what the Holy Spirit revealed to me.

        • Mubarak says

          Nov 11, 2016 at 7:51 am

          Islam serves a purpose in the overall economy of God. A culture that “pisses” Christ and the gospel and disfigures the image of God, in which man is made as man and woman, will have its own “piss” sprinkled upon its head *AND ISLAM WILL BE IT.* The Left, especially, is busy with this enterprise of mocking God and it PROVOKES the anger and judgment of God; Muslims, with God’s permission, complementary INVOKES the judgment of their Allah – who is vehemently opposed to the gospel – *AND SHARIAH WILL BE IT.* By these two hands of God, the miserable house of the West will increasingly be left to itself desolate.

          It is a frightening subject that doesn’t spur entertainment and I understand it offends many people. —

        • gravenimage says

          Nov 11, 2016 at 4:55 pm

          More from Mubarak:

          Islam serves a purpose in the overall economy of God.
          …………………………..

          Mubarak is just spamming now–he has said this before–that it is God’s will that we be raped and murdered by Muslims, and that if we resist this in any way–even by inviting in fewer rapists–that we are flouting the will of God. *How grotesque*.

          More:

          A culture that “pisses” Christ and the gospel and disfigures the image of God, in which man is made as man and woman, will have its own “piss” sprinkled upon its head *AND ISLAM WILL BE IT.*
          …………………………..

          More spam. He has mentioned this several times now–that since an “artist” created the moronic piece “Piss Christ” almost thirty years ago in the US that Infidels all over the West deserve to suffer and die.

          Never mind that many Christians and others protested the work at the time–that we did not put out a Fatwa on the artist supposedly proves that we all deserve to die.

          More proof that Mubarak understands *nothing* about Christianity–unlike Muslims, Christians *do not* murder to prevent criticism or mockery of their faith.

          More:

          The Left, especially, is busy with this enterprise of mocking God and it PROVOKES the anger and judgment of God; Muslims, with God’s permission, complementary INVOKES the judgment of their Allah – who is vehemently opposed to the gospel – *AND SHARIAH WILL BE IT.* By these two hands of God, the miserable house of the West will increasingly be left to itself desolate.
          …………………………..

          Mubarak has demanded before that we impose Shari’ah to deflect the anger of God–that we prevent women from appearing in public, from working and from getting an education.

          But, of course, it is not Christianity that demands such things–it is *Islam*.

          And note his phrasing–referring to the “miserable house” of the West. Where have we heard *that* before?

          Here’s the Muslim Brotherhood:

          “The process of settlement is a ‘Civilization-Jihadist Process’ with all the word means. The Ikhwan [Muslim Brotherhood] must understand that their work in America is a kind of grand jihad in eliminating and destroying the Western civilization from within and “sabotaging” its *miserable house* by their hands and the hands of the believers so that it is eliminated and God’s religion is made victorious over all other religions.” [emphasis mine–GI]

          In other words, this is an Islamic call for the destruction of the civilized West, and its fall to Islam.

          More:

          It is a frightening subject that doesn’t spur entertainment and I understand it offends many people.
          …………………………..

          Yes–calling for the rape of our children and our destruction by Islam *does* offend every decent person here. Mubarak’s claiming that this is God’s–really, “Allah’s”–will does not change that.

        • Dexter L. Wilson says

          Nov 11, 2016 at 7:09 pm

          You also need the Baptism in the Holy Spirit to allow you to understand better of which you Speak Remember that it is the Holy Spirit who is the Spirit of truth, Man’s attempt of trying to understand fails in comparison. That is why he gave :tongues: for praying bypassing you mind speaking mysteries unto God who knows all and expects us to lend our lips to pray in the Spirit for know not how to pray Remember that Paul said he spoke in tongues more than you all. There is a call to pray for a half hour by the Kenneth Copeland and Billye Brim ministries for a 24 hours a day in such increments. For you or I do not know how to pray to influence world leaders. Lend yourself to the Baptism in the Holy Spirit. Again look at the Acts of the Apostles, Your understanding is limited but God is asking you to pray in the spirit. Read Isaiah 30’21” showing that ability of the Holy Spirit to lead us. Look at the method of salvation in Ezekiel 36’25-27 leading up to the Baptism in the Holy Spirit. I hope you are not one of those that this has been done away with lest you forget Cornelius and his whole family received Him and spoke with other tongues and he was not an apostle but simply a believe as was his whole family. Let me ask you how can you pray without ceasing without the gift of tongues? I know because I do pray in tongues. and could pray for hours this way. We need God’s guidance and He can act if we pray according to His will and how else, in tongues..

        • gravenimage says

          Nov 12, 2016 at 1:32 pm

          Dexter, I think the only “baptism” Mubarak has ever received are Wu’du baths…

      • Praeceptor Maximus says

        Nov 11, 2016 at 8:19 am

        Mubarak
        I want you to take a moment and think about what you are saying. You are saying that for rejecting Christ and all the other nasty things that the west is doing, God’s judgment will be for Satan to succeed. That is what you are saying. “SHARIAH WILL BE IT” You are so angry that you cannot even form a coherent argument. Why would God want for Satan to unleash his doctrine on the western people? Why would God Yahweh want people to call upon Allah instead of Him. Wouldn’t be easier for God Yahweh to strike earth with a couple of asteroids and just annihilate us? Wouldn’t be easier for God Yahweh to unleash a flood like Noah’s flood to wipe us out? Surely, these method of destroying us makes more sense than us following the teachings of Satan! And what about the second coming of Christ? Where does that fit in that grand scheme of yours that you think it is God’s scheme? Have a think about it. But I am off to bed. It is late at night here in Australia and I am a tired old person.

        • Mubarak says

          Nov 11, 2016 at 9:27 am

          What a twisted picture you paint, PM.
          I see the conflict of Islam and the “Christian” West as one between law and grace. Where grace is spurned law – and Islam is eminently the religion of law – takes its place by default, and that is the judgment: our “house is left to us desolate.” –
          but:
          “Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the LORD:And he shall turn the heart of the fathers to the children, and the heart of the children to their fathers, lest I come and smite the earth with a curse.” -Isn’t that hopeful?

          So, Good night, PM:
          Wake up with the last ten chapters of Isaiah also full of hope and consolation!

        • Champ says

          Nov 11, 2016 at 5:07 pm

          “Mubarak” gives the SAME answer to anyone that confronts his wrongheaded offerings …

          “What a twisted picture you paint.”

          “Mubarak” is a stealth-jihadist who’s also a broken record.

          Go away MrBoring.

        • gravenimage says

          Nov 11, 2016 at 6:09 pm

          Yet more from the repulsive Mubarak:

          What a twisted picture you paint, PM.
          I see the conflict of Islam and the “Christian” West as one between law and grace. Where grace is spurned law – and Islam is eminently the religion of law – takes its place by default, and that is the judgment: our “house is left to us desolate.” –
          ………………………………..

          Since the beginning, Christians have debated the place of works and grace in faith. Various clerics, scholars, and denominations have taken various positions as to the weight of each in Christian salvation.

          But look at what the foul Mubarak is positing; that Islam and Christianity are just the same, but that Islam emphasizes the law, and Christianity grace.

          But this is *absolutely false*–the works that Islam enjoins its violent followers to undertake are not acts of charity, but to rape women and children, to take sex slaves, to murder Jews and other Infidels, and to impose its foul creed by Jihad violence.

          Is he claiming that Christianity does the same thing, just through grace? What a mockery this makes of the whole concept.

          The fact is that the main differences between Christianity and Islam are “love your neighbor as yourself” and “kill the unbelievers wherever you find them”–a difference *far* more fundamental than the question of works or grace.

          More:

          “Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the LORD:And he shall turn the heart of the fathers to the children, and the heart of the children to their fathers, lest I come and smite the earth with a curse.” -Isn’t that hopeful?
          ………………………………..

          The idea that God is demanding that Christians roll over and *embrace evil* could not be more perverse.

          More:

          So, Good night, PM:
          Wake up with the last ten chapters of Isaiah also full of hope and consolation!
          ………………………………..

          More sneering at Christianity, in the guise of championing it.

          Actually, I find Isaiah 1:26 *quite* consoling:

          “And I will restore thy judges as at the first, and thy counsellors as at the beginning: afterward thou shalt be called, The city of righteousness, the faithful city.”

          One could, in fact, read this as making the city “great again”–something, note, that Mubarak has sneered at, in both the secular and religious sense.

          Instead, he has demanded that it is God’s will that we embrace the blackest of evil. *Ugh*.

        • gravenimage says

          Nov 11, 2016 at 6:16 pm

          Good replies from Praeceptor Maximus and Champ.

        • gravenimage says

          Nov 11, 2016 at 6:26 pm

          Also, good stuff from Kay, Duh Swami, and Cecilia.

  8. VRWC member77 says

    Nov 10, 2016 at 7:32 pm

    PRESIDENT-ELECT TRUMP……do NOT , I REPEAT x 1000:……do NOT pick that Traitorous SENATOR from Tennessee named * BOB CORKER * –the one who enabled Obama to go through with his “deal” with Iran — to become your Secretary of State.

    HE IS RESPONSIBLE for OBAMA’S DISASOROUS “DEAL” WITH IRAN.

    BOB (traitor) CORKER =/= Secretary of State.

  9. duh swami says

    Nov 11, 2016 at 4:20 am

    Don’t worry, Obama still has time to give Iran more money and emotional support…

    • gravenimage says

      Nov 11, 2016 at 6:27 pm

      Yes, I’m sure Obama will still do a lot of damage in the next two-plus months.

  10. duh swami says

    Nov 11, 2016 at 4:36 am

    From post above…He facial expression is occasionally one of Mussolini and it doesn’t bode well for America and the world.

    I studied the facial expressions of Mussolini for 20 years, and not one matches Trumps…

    • gravenimage says

      Nov 11, 2016 at 6:31 pm

      Notice that the nasty Mubarak has not a word of criticism for the sanguinary Mullahs, yet compares Trump to “Mussolini”. *Ugh*.

  11. duh swami says

    Nov 11, 2016 at 7:45 am

    We don’t hear much about Mahdi anymore, but the Ayatollah hasn’t forgotten about him…

  12. DOCARINO says

    Nov 11, 2016 at 10:23 am

    I voted for the Donald, I am not an Iranian American or a Zionist but an America firster.This constant attacking of Iran is senseless unless one seeks another unnecessary war.
    Only the blind refuse to see that secular, non-activist Muslims are those who can live at peace in the West. They embrace the customs but not the violence in the Koran–they are “mess-hall Muslims, much like the old “cafeteria Catholics” who picked and chose what worked for themselves; scant adherence and no violence involved. Assimilated Muslims cite only the peaceful verses proclaimed when Muhammad was still seeking power.

    Those who follow the Medinan verses of the Koran, the “activist” Muslims are violent because those verses have abrogated the more peaceful Meccan verses, as described by reputable Sunni scholars e.g. from Al-Azhar Univ in Cairo. ISIS is following the Koran, they are orthodox, activist Muslims, “radical” Muslims. (Latin: radix, radices-root). Actually the peaceful Muslims are unconventional, they are the ones living in peace in the West, and do not follow all in the Koran, the Sunnahs (teachings of Muhammed) or Hadiths, (traditions-commentaries)!

    Difference is that Christians who actually follow the lessons rather than the “exact words” of the Bible (the Sola Scriptura adherents) seek peace, love, forgiveness (to be distinguished from the rapture seeking evangelical/fundamentalists in the US who can’t wait to start another war, one with Iran (a country that has not invaded another country in 250 years) to encourage Jesus to come back …..after which all the Israeli Jews who convert to their form of Christianity will be swooped up into paradise…….I suppose Jesus will then bless those who have caused the insurmountable suffering of innocents in the Middle East. Christian Zionist pastors, politicians and followers are “useful fools” to the Israeli militants who demand that their state extend from the Nile to the Euphrates. Once the war starts, the C-Zs will be dropped by the Israelis who will surely smirk at the thought of being raptured into heaven by bible babbling zealots.
    We must, however separate the Palestinian cause, a just one, from violent Islamism, an evil one. A day negotiating is better than a day invading. Remember, the young soldiers who die in desert hellholes are sent there by old politicians who die in their warm beds at home……and the military industrial congressional complex pockets the proceeds. There is no flag large enough to cover the coffins of the innocents slaughtered in wars…..and the concept of patriotism has often been confiscated to serve as the last refuge of scoundrels.

    Iran has acknowledged the 220 pounds of overage ( a rounding error compared to 140 tons) and is shipping out 5 tons to make up for it–promptly. Are you so in the pockets of the Zionists that war at any cost is preferable to peace. Remember that we–the west–but mostly the US has caused the disruption in the ME aided and stoked by Israel. and Saudi Arabia which continues to behead “criminals” …dozens monthly. Trump may wish to renegotiate the deal with Iran but he’d be wiser if he refused to send more offensive weapons to Israel; cluster bombs are not defensive weapons. Instead of bombs from above we, the US, should drop food, water, clothing, medicines, etc., over Syria with the words “From the people of the US-with love and hope”…not bombs! That’s how to make friends.
    What we have been doing has not worked, that’s why we voted for change—now let’s try peace.

    • gravenimage says

      Nov 11, 2016 at 7:14 pm

      DOCARINO wrote:

      This constant attacking of Iran is senseless unless one seeks another unnecessary war.
      ………………………………

      How is noting that Iran is moving closer to become a nuclear power attacking Iran?

      And what is to be praised about the sanguinary horror of Iran? The calls for the destruction of America and Israel? The hanging of gay people from cranes? Stoning women to death?

      More:

      Only the blind refuse to see that secular, non-activist Muslims are those who can live at peace in the West. They embrace the customs but not the violence in the Koran…
      ………………………………

      Uh huh–these supposedly “peaceful” Muslims are doing nothing to stop violent Jihad, and are often supporting and funding it.

      Moreover, how can one *possibly* consider Iran secular? They *very much* embrace the violence of the Qur’an.

      Then he himself notes that such peaceful Muslims–to the extent that they exist–are not good Muslims–quite the opposite of peaceful Christians. This does not bode well for those who believe that it is possible for Muslims to live in peace with Infidels.

      More:

      Difference is that Christians who actually follow the lessons rather than the “exact words” of the Bible (the Sola Scriptura adherents) seek peace, love, forgiveness (to be distinguished from the rapture seeking evangelical/fundamentalists in the US who can’t wait to start another war, one with Iran…Christian Zionist pastors, politicians and followers are “useful fools” to the Israeli militants who demand that their state extend from the Nile to the Euphrates.
      ………………………………

      My God, what crap. It is just Muslims and other apologists for Islam who claim that Israel wants to “extend from the Nile to the Eurphrates”. Israel just wants to live in peace without Muslims murdering and trying to destroy them.

      Far from expanding, Israel gave up land when they withdrew from Gaza.

      And it is not Christians and Jews threatening to destroy Iran–it is Iran screaming “Death to America!”, and “Death to Israel!”.

      More:

      Once the war starts, the C-Zs will be dropped by the Israelis who will surely smirk at the thought of being raptured into heaven by bible babbling zealots.
      ………………………………

      Oh, those perfidious Jooooooooooooooooos! sarc/off

      More:

      We must, however separate the Palestinian cause, a just one, from violent Islamism, an evil one.
      ………………………………

      The “Palestinian” cause is Jihad against Israel, and a call for the destruction of that civilized polity, and the genocide of the Jews. Telling that this poster considers this “just”.

      More:

      A day negotiating is better than a day invading.
      ………………………………

      Well, we *are* negotiating with Iran–and they are responding by violating the terms of the deal and building a nuclear state. Nice that DOCARINO consider this a salubrious thing…

      More:

      Iran has acknowledged the 220 pounds of overage ( a rounding error compared to 140 tons) and is shipping out 5 tons to make up for it–promptly. Are you so in the pockets of the Zionists that war at any cost is preferable to peace.
      ………………………………

      The idea that our choices are giving money to Iran to create a nuclear state or else a ground invasion is just absurd.

      Iran under the Mullahs has never been at peace with the civilized world, and more appeasement will not mean that they are.

      But acknowledging this is being in the “pockets of the Zionists”, according to this apologist for Muslim savagery.

      More:

      Remember that we–the west–but mostly the US has caused the disruption in the ME aided and stoked by Israel.
      ………………………………

      Right–Islam was at peace within and with Dar-al-Harb for 1400 years until the US and Israel came along…oh, wait…no, they weren’t.

      More:

      ….and Saudi Arabia which continues to behead “criminals” …dozens monthly.
      ………………………………

      This is Muslim savagery–as everyone here acknowledges. Why does DOCARINO condemn this, but laud the similar barbarism of the Mullahs?

      More:

      Trump may wish to renegotiate the deal with Iran but he’d be wiser if he refused to send more offensive weapons to Israel…
      ………………………………

      Abandon the only civilized democracy in the Middle East in favor of the bloody Mullahs…got it…

      More:

      Instead of bombs from above we, the US, should drop food, water, clothing, medicines, etc., over Syria with the words “From the people of the US-with love and hope”…not bombs! That’s how to make friends.
      ………………………………

      The United States offers more foreign aid and charity than any other nation in the world–the idea that Jihadists hate us because we are not charitable enough is absurd.

      And dropping aid into Syria would just be picked up by the Jihadist and used to fund Jihad–as DOCARINO no doubt knows.

      More:

      What we have been doing has not worked, that’s why we voted for change—now let’s try peace.
      ………………………………

      There is no hot war with Iran, and we have not invaded them–pretending that we have, and that this is why Iran is threatening us with nuclear destruction, is just ludicrous. Doesn’t DOCARINO realize how ridiculous he looks making these obviously false claims?

      • Mark Swan says

        Nov 11, 2016 at 9:41 pm

        Good job whittling that tall tale down to size, thank You gravenimage.

        • gravenimage says

          Nov 12, 2016 at 1:38 pm

          Thank you, Mark. 🙂

  13. "DOCARINO" says

    Nov 11, 2016 at 10:27 am

    Please just use “Docarino” not my full name as nuts out there are are on both sides

    • gravenimage says

      Nov 11, 2016 at 7:23 pm

      “Both side”–ergo, Jihadists are dangerous, but those who oppose the horror of Jihad are supposedly just as bad.

      What rot. Countering DOCARINO’s meretricious claptrap is not putting him in danger–nor is it intended to.

  14. Mirren10 says

    Nov 11, 2016 at 11:10 am

    ” Iran has exceeded a soft limit on sensitive material set under its nuclear deal with major powers, the U.N. atomic watchdog said on Wednesday, hours after Donald Trump – who has strongly criticized the agreement – won the U.S. presidential election.”

    Making hay while the sun shines.

    • gravenimage says

      Nov 11, 2016 at 7:24 pm

      Exactly, MIrren. I wish this were as benign as hay making, though.

      • Mirren10 says

        Nov 11, 2016 at 8:09 pm

        Indeed.

  15. Ric says

    Nov 11, 2016 at 3:06 pm

    Now that Trump is President-elect, Iran and its allies, the U.N, and the U.N. aAtomic Commission chose to do the old double-shuffle. Surprise., surprise… those protesting the election results , of course, do not give a toss that Obama sold out America, Israel, the entirety of Western-Democracy.

    Off topic, perhaps; however, I doubt these vitriolic malcontents have a clue or care of the peril in which the aforementioned has weighed upon the abovementioned.

    The toothless in the U.N., not to mention its collaboration with radical-Islam supporters is equally disconcerting.

  16. gravenimage says

    Nov 11, 2016 at 3:44 pm

    Iran once again exceeds a nuclear deal limit
    …………………………….

    And why would they even bother to hide it? At least under the current administration, no one is even going to call them on it let alone do anything to stop them.

  17. Francis Merde says

    Nov 11, 2016 at 7:34 pm

    Do they realize that if they do this once Trump is in office, he can use it as an excuse to scrub the entire deal?

    • gravenimage says

      Nov 12, 2016 at 1:44 pm

      I hope he does, Francis. It was grotesque in the first place. We should have continued to isolate Iran as we had since they seized our diplomatic staff and kept them as hostages for 444 days.

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