When someone says he will kill you if you draw Muhammad, you have two choices, and ultimately two choices only: you can draw Muhammad, or you can submit to violent intimidation. Your third choice — ignoring the ultimatum — is only temporary: the violent thugs will get around to you eventually. And so it is incumbent upon all free people nowadays to resist this violent intimidation. Few, however, grasp this point.
“One by One, ISIS Social Media Experts Are Killed as Result of F.B.I. Program,” by Adam Goldman and Eric Schmitt, New York Times, November 24, 2016 (thanks to Pamela Geller):
WASHINGTON — In the summer of 2015, armed American drones over eastern Syria stalked Junaid Hussain, an influential hacker and recruiter for the Islamic State.
For weeks, Mr. Hussain was careful to keep his young stepson by his side, and the drones held their fire. But late one night, Mr. Hussain left an internet cafe alone, and minutes later a Hellfire missile killed him as he walked between two buildings in Raqqa, Syria, the Islamic State’s de facto capital.
Mr. Hussain, a 21-year-old from Birmingham, England, was a leader of a band of English-speaking computer specialists who had given a far-reaching megaphone to Islamic State propaganda and exhorted online followers to carry out attacks in the West. One by one, American and allied forces have killed the most important of roughly a dozen members of the cell, which the F.B.I. calls “the Legion,” as part of a secretive campaign that has largely silenced a powerful voice that led to a surge of counterterrorism activity across the United States in 2015 as young men and women came under the influence of its propaganda.
American military, intelligence and law enforcement officials acknowledge that the Islamic State still retains a sophisticated social media arm that could still inspire attacks like those in San Bernardino, Calif., and in Orlando, Fla., and remains a potent foe suspected of maintaining clandestine cells in Europe. But they point to the coordinated effort against the Legion as evidence of the success the United States has had in reducing the Islamic State’s ability to direct, enable or inspire attacks against the West.
Initially the threat posed by the Legion was primarily seen as a problem for law enforcement officials. But as the threat worsened last year, and the F.B.I. stepped up the monitoring of terrorism suspects around the country, the bureau pressed the military to focus on the group, according to current and former American officials.
While American and British forces conducted a series of drone strikes on members of the group, the F.B.I. sifted through thousands of the Legion’s followers on social media to figure out who had actually been inspired to take action. In the last two years, it has arrested nearly 100 people in cases involving the terrorist group.
Several of the arrests were of people who had direct contact with the Legion. Many of the others involved were “folks who first came on our radar because we became aware of them” through their connections with Hussain and Reyaad Khan, also a British citizen, who was another leader of the group, according to Andrew McCabe, deputy director of the F.B.I.
Mr. Hussain wore a number of hats, including that of a hacker. He was linked to the release of personal information on more than 1,300 American military and government employees. In March 2015, his group posted the names and addresses of service members with instructions: “Kill them in their own lands, behead them in their own homes, stab them to death as they walk their streets thinking they are safe.”
More important were Mr. Hussain’s efforts as an online recruiter.
According to court records, Mr. Hussain communicated with at least four men in four states, imploring them to initiate attacks or help spread the Islamic State’s message. Mr. Hussain was behind a plot to behead Pamela Geller, the author of a conservative blog. In early 2015, Mr. Hussain began communicating with Usaamah Abdullah Rahim, 26, and gave him instructions to kill Ms. Geller.
Mr. Rahim abruptly abandoned the plan and decided instead to kill a police officer in the Boston area. The bureau was monitoring him, and Mr. Rahim was shot and killed in June 2015 after he confronted an F.B.I. surveillance team with a knife. The F.B.I. also arrested two of Mr. Rahim’s associates, whom prosecutors say were involved in the plot.
Mr. Hussain’s associates were also busy. Another Briton, named Raphael Hostey, was in touch with Mohammed Hamzah Khan, 19, of Bolingbrook, Ill. Mr. Khan tried to travel to Syria with his two younger siblings before he was arrested by the F.B.I.
In another plot that the F.B.I. disrupted, Mr. Hussain instructed an Ohio college student named Munir Abdulkader to kidnap a member of the military and record his killing on video. Mr. Hussain then asked Mr. Abdulkader to attack a police station in the Cincinnati area. As Mr. Abdulkader prepared for the suicide operation, he told Mr. Hussain about his prowess on the shooting range.
Mr. Hussain responded: “Next time ul be shooting kuffar in their face and stomach.” Kuffar is a derogatory term for non-Muslims.
Mr. Abdulkader, 22, who was born in Eritrea, was arrested and pleaded guilty in July to material support for terrorism and plotting to kill a member of the military and police officers. He was sentenced to 20 years in prison.
And last year, the F.B.I. arrested a North Carolina man, Justin Nolan Sullivan, then 19, and charged him with trying to provide material support to the Islamic State. Federal prosecutors say he planned to target a public venue in a mass shooting. The authorities said that Mr. Sullivan and Mr. Hussain had discussed making a video of the attack for use as propaganda. When Mr. Sullivan’s parents voiced concerns about their son buying a silencer, he approached an undercover F.B.I. employee about killing them. Mr. Sullivan, who described Mr. Hussain as part of the Islamic State “cyberteam,” was also charged with fatally shooting his 74-year-old neighbor in the head….

vladkoval says
He who lives by sword – will be killed by Drone! )))
762x51FMJ says
He who follows Islam does so alone,
for their destiny is shared with a drone.
( rock and roll frum beat here )
Insert more lyrics.. here….
Cretius says
Another bit of good news!
A Harris USA says
Kill them all!!! I do not care if it is a drone, but prefer a drone with a nuke on board!!! Better to get them before they get us, you think? With all the drones on the market now, I wonder how long before they will use one on us… This is something one must consider, who we sell drones to!! But one less pig savage is something to celebrate. Rot in hell devil!!
dave says
yes sir. amen. any weapon sold to an ISLAMIC nation has the potential to kill the salesman’s nation & its allies. war is an ugly business & people die on both sides using the same weapons, at times.
Walter Sieruk says
That ISIS leader with his vicious and murderous intentions toward Pamela Geller is the one who is now dead and not Geller. Most likely Pamela Geller might well and probably will live into and past the coming year of 2017. Unlike that dead jihadist ISIS chief who wanted her dead. So this shows that old saying might be true. Which is “What goes around ,comes around.”
gravenimage says
Long live the brave Pamela Geller!
Cecilia Ellis says
An early Hannukah and Christmas gift for People of the Book!
Daniel Triplett says
Let’s stop screwing around, and get this fight started.
Why would we go to such great lengths to spare his son, who was undoubtedly being taught all the tricks of the jihad trade? If he’s old enough to fight, he’s old enough to die.
“Total War: Extinguishing Islam from Earth” @dantriplett
https://medium.com/@dantriplett/islamic-jihad-is-total-war-for-all-marbles-6c858098b76e
moeped says
Correct!!
Kathy Brown, Esq. says
My Vet said exactly this when I saw him yesterday.
He’s a Marine (ret). We were discussing the recent election. I opined that Pres. Trump will soon decimate the muslim savages. Dr. Lyle said, ‘We can do it, easily. But we have to accept the collateral damage.’
I’m certainly ready to accept that. I mean we can’t decimate them any other way.
linnte says
It is profoundly painful to me that collateral damage; the deaths of women and children etc, will happen. But in truth it is ALREADY happening. And that’s why it’s called war. If the enemy knows all of their people will potentially be destroyed, it SHOULD give the enemy incentive enough to surrender. That is the normal logic of the enemy and war strategy, but ISLAM is not normal. So it may be that the annhilation of a whole country may be the results of Islams death wish.
gravenimage says
It worked quite well when we isolated Islam–they were no real threat to us then. I believe we can do that again.
Daniel Triplett says
We don’t have the time, money, military, or the will to invade and occupy indefinitely 57 Muslim countries.
As a US military officer and 6-year war vet, I saw first hand and up front what the 15 years, $6 Trillion, and over 6500 KIA of our finest American patriots got us trying to secure just 2 of the 57. It’s no better today than the day we first set foot there.
The scope and scale of the problem is WAY too big for diplomacy and 2000 pound bombs now. Dar al-Islam stretches from Morocco to Philippines covering most everything along a 3000 mile swath. That’s not even counting the 10s or 100s of Millions of them living among us in Dar al-Harb, as trained liars, convincing the useful idiots they’re our friends.
A conventional military solution was never possible anyway. Dar al-Islam is just too big.
Our objective should be criminalization of Islam, making its “practice or promotion” a capital offense. An Alliance with Kaffir nuke states can force this on all 57 Muslim States within 3 months.
We all know we can’t “vet” the Ummah. All adherents to Islam are dangerous, and none can be trusted. Unlike the rest of us, who grew up with guilt when lying, believing it’s a bad thing, Muslims feel no such contrition, and actually feel pride in emulating their deity, “Allah is the best of all deceivers.” Just like Muhammad said, “War is deceit.”
Nor could our grandfathers sort out the good Germans and Japanese from the bad (9% of Germans were Nazi), so we bombed every German and Japanese man, woman, and child in sight until they surrendered unconditionally. We wouldn’t have won the war if we didn’t.
Look at post-attack Battle Damage Assessment photos of Dresden, Cologne, Hamburg, Tokyo, Hiroshima, etc. to see how our grandfathers felt about collateral damage and enemy civilians. They didn’t avoid them. They targeted them.
This is still how all US Military Majors and above are taught today. This is how wars are won. But today’s politicians think they’re intellectually and morally superior to the Generals of “The Greatest Generation.” But I have a strong feeling President Trump will be different. He speaks with great reverence toward the most lethal ass-kicking Generals of WWII, and he appears to be stacking DoD posts with such characters. We’re going to need them.
My link above outlines the ONLY strategy I see possible to bring us victory in this zero-sum clash of two civilizations.
This is a nuclear war now. We’d best face it and develop the stomach and will to use them, and soon, before the enemy uses them on us, which they promise to do.
The Ummah is pointing a gun at us, loading it as fast as they can. We need not wait for them to pull the trigger before we do something about it.
dave says
collateral damage is the cost of eliminating evil. the allies killed hundreds of thousands of innocent people, while defeating the NAZIS, the JAPS & others. surgical strikes are a myth. war is a nasty business. sometimes we forget the truth.
Keys says
Now his son lives and will grow up learning that his father was a martyr whose death he must avenge. The probability is high that his son will be responsible for the deaths of many in years to come.
And for all the days, because of foolish ROEs, that Hussain lived because his son was with him many innocent people likely died.
What kind of morality is that ?
gravenimage says
Keys, civilized people do not engage in deliberately killing innocents, nor in collective guilt–nor do we need to.
Keys says
gi, I can agree with your statement, however in war I think it is sometimes necessary for survival and to preserve the lives of innocents or combatants “on our side”.
Taking innocent life to preserve innocent lives is a horendous decision for a leader or commander to make, and preserving innocent lives on all sides is the ideal, but not always possible in war. I hope you would agree, gravenimage. With respect.
dave says
never been in combat myself, very lucky in and out of 22 years of military service. been around the world & AMERICA is the best option, for the world & that includes ALL THE WARTS. the problem of trying to fight a nice clean war, where only the bad guys die, you handy cap our troops. the bad guys do not care one way or the other about INNOCENTS. killing to win is the only option. everything else is just politics.
Keys says
from JW article by Robert Spencer Nov 27, “Life in the Islamic State: “If you don’t convert to Islam we will kill your son” …..
“A car stopped and six blindfolded people dressed in red got out. They had them on their knees and then IS children arrived. Each child stood behind one of the men in red. Someone who seemed to be their leader started reading from some papers. When he finished reading, the children shot the men dead.”…
Daniel Triplett says
I agree with Keys on this one gravenimage.
Winning large scale conflicts between peoples without killing non-combatants is impossible.
In the 8 hours before the first Americans set foot on the Normandy Beaches on D-Day, American aerial bombardment and US Naval artillery shelling to soften Nazi defensive positions killed 25,000 friendly French civilian residents of the Normandy coastline. We knew they would die, but we killed them anyway. To give them warning would’ve alerted the Nazis as well, and would’ve compromised Operation Overlord catastrophically.
But that’s the cost of war, and we’re just talking of friendly fratricide here.
Regarding enemy women and children, our grandfathers did little to discriminate either. Have you seen post-attack Battle Damage Assessment photos of Cologne, Dresden, Hamburg, Tokyo, Hiroshima, etc.? We razed to the ground over 60 major Japanese cities alone. How many women and children do you suppose died in those strikes? Do you consider our grandparents “uncivilized?”
Here’s a quote from General Curtis LeMay, America’s longest serving 4-Star General in history; father of Strategic Area Bombing, and later the Commander of USAF Strategic Air Command. He’s the one American credited with the deaths of more people than any other; over 350,000 enemy soldiers and civilians at a minimum:
“I’ll tell you what war is all about. It’s about killing people. If you kill enough of them, they stop fighting. There are no innocent civilians. It is their government and you are fighting a people, you are not trying to fight an armed force anymore. So it doesn’t bother me so much to be killing the so-called innocent bystanders.
I think there are many times when it would be most efficient to use nuclear weapons. However, the public opinion in this country and throughout the world throw up their hands in horror when you mention nuclear weapons, just because of the propaganda that’s been fed to them.
As far as casualties were concerned I think there were more casualties in the first attack on Tokyo with incendiaries than there were with the first use of the atomic bomb on Hiroshima. The fact that it’s done instantaneously, maybe that’s more humane than incendiary attacks, if you can call any war act humane. I don’t, particularly, so to me there wasn’t much difference. A weapon is a weapon and it really doesn’t make much difference how you kill a man. If you have to kill him, well, that’s the evil to start with and how you do it becomes pretty secondary. I think your choice should be which weapon is the most efficient and most likely to get the whole mess over with as early as possible.”
Here’s a quote from our Ally, Sir Arthur Harris, Commander of RAF Bomber Command during WWII:
“The Nazis entered this war under the rather childish delusion that they were going to bomb everyone else, and nobody was going to bomb them. At Rotterdam, London, Warsaw and half a hundred other places, they put their rather naïve theory into operation. They sowed the wind, and now they are going to reap the whirlwind.
The aim of the Combined Bomber Offensive…should be unambiguously stated [as] the destruction of German cities, the killing of German workers, and the disruption of civilised life throughout Germany.
… the destruction of houses, public utilities, transport and lives, the creation of a refugee problem on an unprecedented scale, and the breakdown of morale both at home and at the battle fronts by fear of extended and intensified bombing, are accepted and intended aims of our bombing policy. They are not by-products of attempts to hit factories.”
To this day, America still teaches these strategies to all Field Grade military officers. This is how wars are won.
This is not uncivilized war strategy. With Strategic Area Bombing in Germany, but especially in Japan, we saved not just 1,000,000 American lives, but 2,000,000 Japanese lives as well.
Strategic Area Bombing and nuclear warfare is far more civilized than the alternative.
To this day, America still teaches these strategies to all Field Grade military officers. This is how wars are won. To achieve victory, we must do this now on an unprecedented scale the World has never seen. The alternative is the loss of Civilization.
Imagine how long this Islamic War will continue without our use of nuclear weapons, assuming we can keep nukes out of the Ummah’s hands the entire time (which we won’t; they already have them).
Just look at the time, blood, and treasure we’ve already spent since 9/11. What have we accomplished? Who do you think is winning this war?
Believe me now or believe me later. To eliminate the Islamic threat forever, sending Islam to the same Marianas Trench graveyard as Nazism and Shintoism, I see only one strategy. This yields the lowest cost, shortest time, fewest enemy casualties, near zero Allied casualties, least property damage, and decisive victory:
“Total War: Extinguishing Islam from Earth”
by @dantriplett
https://medium.com/@dantriplett/islamic-jihad-is-total-war-for-all-marbles-6c858098b76e
dave says
yes sir. well said. war is an ugly business. winning is the only option. whatever it takes. if you worry about killing too many innocents, you are in the wrong career field. the enemy will exploit your weakness to not kill as needed. the enemy never follows your rules of combat. he has a different play book.
Ronen says
Congratulations everybody!!!
moeped says
Why wait until the stepson wasn’t around? The enemy would not extend us the same courtesy. The more of his friends and family around him, the better. What a waste of a missile to only kill one of our enemies.
gravenimage says
We aren’t Muslims, after all.
Marty says
One more item to be thankful for this Thanksgiving weekend.
Shmooviyet says
Raise a glass tonight, Pamela!
*clink*
David says
Trump winning, now this….YEEEEEEEEEEHAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!
David says
add to that the capture of Australia’s most wanted islamic terrorist and the death of castro, and that’s a double YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!
More Ham Ed says
The fact is, there will be 1000 more unholy ko ‘ran readers to take his place. Time for another cartoon contest w/ free ham sandwiches for attendees.
Angemon says
I would have preferred a lawful imprisonment followed by impartial judgement, but this the best next choice.
gravenimage says
I don’t think the long arm of the law extends into the Islamic State, Angemon–except as a drone strike. Works for me.
Angemon says
Like I said, the next best choice 😀 And it worked wonders for Jihadi John and Al-Adnani, the guy who made the speech telling muslims in the West to attack Westerners with knives and cars.
dave says
heroes of the 21st century, DRONE DRIVERS. death delivered 7/24, 365, rain or shine, day or night. we got your address, phone number & a photo id. look up, here we come.
Daniel Triplett says
I love these guys too, but 20 drone strikes per day isn’t going to win the war. That’s pathetic. We need to kill 100 times that amount, MINIMUM, each day. There are 1.6 Billion Muslims obligated to become 1.6 Billion jihadists in a heartbeat when the time is right. We’re losing badly, not because we can’t win, but because our arrogant know-it-all CINC won’t let us win.
Twenty drone strikes per day, restrictive ROE, and using tactical engagements when epic strategic engagements are in order, in a battlespace the size of Asia, is a great way to continue losing the war.
Does anyone believe the Iranians are just bluffing with their nuke weapons program and the whole, “Death to America! ‘Death to Israel!” thing?
This isn’t a Police Action. This is WWIII, and we need WWII strategies, at a minimum, to win it.
Besides, this whole approach to this war is a fool’s errand. Like trying to kill a swarm of locusts with one guy and a fly-swatter.
If anyone out there can articulate a strategy to destroy Islam using drones, I’d like to hear it.
And before anyone suggests “Containment” as a strategy, ask yourself how containment protects us against ICBMs, nuke on a container ship, or nuke in a U-Haul driven into Times Square.
linnte says
I sure wish you were my neighbor Daniel! And truly, you’re one rare person who has the chutzpah to say what’s needed.
dave says
maybe our leaders need to go back to the OLD WEST rules of engagement. something about the only GOOD INDIAN IS A DEAD INDIAN. just substitute ISLAMIST/MUSLIM as needed. i think we made a lot of progress, after that directive was instituted nation wide. it would be a lot better than the current policies we have going on in the meddle east now. WAR is an UGLY business and requires some UGLY decisions.
Daniel Triplett says
@linnte
That’s kind of you to say linnte. Thank you. The feeling is mutual friend.
We are neighbors. Don’t forget it. It’s us against them. This one’s for all the marbles.
Stay strong.
Plutarchus says
MESS WITH PAM
and you get slammed.
Michael Copeland says
Credit to the FBI.
gravenimage says
Hear, hear!
Guest says
Karma thy name is drone
linnte says
HALLELEUIA!
gravenimage says
Islamic State leader who ordered U.S. Muslims to murder Pamela Geller killed by drone strike in Syria
……………………
Good.
Notice that this thug was using a child as a human shield.
God, I hate Islam.
Anne Smith says
Disgustng but one must ask why our side is so meticulous in observing sentimental niceties like this? He put the child in h arm’s way by his activities. If he had not indulged in murderous enterprise the child would not be at risk, therefore if the child is killed it is down to him and no one else.
Furthermore, when killing rats one does not kill the adults and allow the babies to live and grow into adult rats. One kills the whole family.
I.Matei says
This is wonderful news…You guys don’t let yourselfs be intimidated. Thank you FBI…
And thank you all, activists giving your time, finances and hearts for freedom. I respec and am grateful that you Robert, Pamela, Geert and others stand up for the western civilisation, and risk your lifes for it. Deepest respects. You are indeed fighting EVIL.
Love
Beagle says
The news here is the NYT mentioning Pamela Geller without a paragraph of hateful invective. Sure, a secret operation is interesting. But the NYT not essentially doing the same thing as IS propagandists is a refreshing change.
FYI says
Favorite mahomet cartoons?
1)caption:”mahomet riding a unicycle while playing the ukulele in a winter storm”{A blank page}
2)caption “mahomet in a cave when the lights went out”{a blacked out page }
3)caption”allah himself drawing a satirical picture of mahomet”
4)caption “mahomet tries out a cloaking device”{a picture of an empty desert scene}
5)caption “mahomet running through….oh wait,that’s a Sikh”
Ya see that?No need to be offended is there?
Dustin Koellhoffer says
Make no mistake – this is not by Obama’s command. American generals are on the verge of mutiny against the phony CinC who has restrained them from doing much damage to the Jihad. They are chomping at the bit for Trump to unleash them on the jihadi scourge.
Carolyne says
I believe that Trump, who has no military training, will listen to his aides who have actually been in wars and follow their advice, Many of them will have had actual experience in a war and will know the best use of our military and armaments. I hope he will not be like Obama, micromanaging a war about which he has no knowledge and protecting the Muslim jihadists.
Daniel Triplett says
That’s the truth.
While Caliph Ohammad was smoking weed in high school, DJT spent five years at a military boarding school (NYMA), with posters of Patton, MacArthur, and LeMay on his wall.
Kenny Marken says
A definite personal win for Pam and for everyone who contributed to the Drawing Contest. I do not want to take anything away from this moment in that sense.
Will we be freer or safer from Islam? Of course not. The militants that are clearing ISIS foreign fighters out of Iiraq and Syria will not just disband and go away. They can only move in one direction over time in Islam.
dave says
yes sir. ISLAM has been and always will be a long term problem, until the world decides to make a long term solution. history tells us what needs to be done, in order to have civilized peace for an extended period of time. ISLAM is an ugly problem & requires an ugly answer.
Daniel Triplett says
It’s time for the big guns. About 21 and done.